10x Recruiting

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10x Recruiting

10x Recruiting is the podcast from Metaview that brings you real, unfiltered conversations with today’s top talent leaders. In each episode, Nolan Church (former Carta CPO & DoorDash Head of Talent) and his guests will challenge popular thinking and spark new ideas about what it takes to build world-class teams. We’ll bring you actionable tactics you can actually put into practice now and real metrics to understand what great looks like. Always with an eye towards the future, we’ll keep you in the know about how to stay ahead of the curve in the ever-evolving world of recruiting.

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    Why to prioritize AI learnings as your new hobby

    Most recruiters are waiting for AI to hand them perfect answers.Cassie Chao Leemans is doing something better: building the tools she wishes existed.In this episode, Cassie, Talent Partner at Craft Ventures, breaks down how she went from “not technical” to building her own AI-powered recruiting workflows with Claude Code, Supabase, Metaview, and a lot of late-night tinkering. She shows what it actually takes to turn messy recruiting context into usable systems—and why the best AI outputs don’t come from one magical prompt.Key takeaways:Why “one-shotting” AI products is mostly fantasyHow Cassie built tools to prep calls, search her network, and surface high-signal candidates fasterWhy recruiting expertise, taste, and judgment matter more in an AI-enabled workflowKey topics covered:[00:00] Intro[01:37] Cassie builds AI tools for recruiting utility[06:01] From recruiting to coding without technical background[09:49] Making time for AI experimentation[12:56] Building Radial, the AI recruiting assistant[18:03] Iterative approach to AI product development[22:32] Claude Code vs Claude AI decision making[24:04] Building a custom CRM with AI[30:07] Choosing Supabase for database architecture[34:06] One shot AI products aren't real[37:07] Managing broken features while building[41:20] Trust the system you built article[45:00] Hierarchy of hiring signal sources[48:30] Spiky people and back channel references[50:31] Building at the tip of AI spearTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Why taste is the moat in recruiting with Hebbia's Scott Bianco

    In this episode, Scott Bianco, Head of Talent at Hebbia, breaks down why great recruiters are becoming more valuable, not less. As AI strips out admin, the bar rises for the work that actually matters: judgment, relationships, candidate calibration, and taste.Scott and Nolan get into: Why AI will expose bad recruiters and amplify great ones  Why recruiter taste is hard to teach and impossible to fake  How the best recruiters build trust, not just pipeline Key moments: [00:00] Intro[03:45] Hebbia's Evolution from Semantic Search to Financial Services AI[05:13] Joining as First People Hire at 20 Employee Startup[06:07] Surviving Early Stage Recruiting Through Grit and Focus[08:49] AI Use in Interview Processes and Assessment Strategy[13:13] Engineering Teams Becoming Multi-Skilled Through AI Tools[16:49] Why Highly Customized Outreach is Overrated[22:15] AI Killing Bad Recruiters and Making Great Ones Lethal[24:46] The Doorman Fallacy and Future of Recruiting[27:55] Developing Taste in Talent Assessment[31:19] Learning Follow-Up Questions from Recruiting Mentors[34:31] Curiosity as the Compass for Deeper Candidate Understanding[37:34] Playing the Infinite Game in Recruiting Relationships[39:41] Building Community with Fellow Heads of TalentTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Why being human is still an edge in hiring

    Mike Moriarty left the VC life to build Arsenal Pulse, a recruiting firm focused on defense, aerospace, and manufacturing. After years of being embedded with high-performing founders at Human Capital, he uncovered the recruiting tactics that actually drive an advantage when capital isn't the bottleneck—talent is.In this episode, Nolan talks to Mike about what separates average recruiting from the kind that changes company trajectories. This one is packed with practical ideas: from treating recruiting like a true operating function, to creating candidate experiences that actually feel different, to why involving spouses in senior hires is wildly underused.Key takeaways:Why the best recruiters act like operators, not coordinatorsWhy “being human” is still an unfair edge in hiringThe simple offer-stage move that can dramatically improve close ratesKey topics covered:[00:00] Intro[05:39] Arsenal Pulse Building Defense Tech Talent[08:04] Human Capital Partnership Model vs Advisory[12:34] Founders Don't Want Management[16:27] Scaling Recruiting Teams in Hard Tech[20:25] Getting on the Ground With Clients[24:23] Vetting Founders Who Can't Hire[27:19] Including Spouses in Job Offers[29:21] Exclusive Events Beat Career Fairs[32:22] People Function Needs Actual People LeadersTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    What we're cooking: Claude Code, MCPs, & AI Sourcing

    In our first "What we’re cooking" segment, Nolan and Siadhal share what they’ve been building—and what it signals about where AI recruiting workflows are heading.Siadhal demos the latest from Metaview’s AI sourcing agent: sourcing candidates from past conversations, not just the public web, and finding highly specific profiles—like designers who were at Stripe during its early growth.Nolan walks through a custom executive search dashboard he built from scratch with Claude Code in under an hour.We cover how to: Tap into past candidate conversations as a high-signal sourcing layerLeverage nuanced prompts to unlock a new level of precision in AI sourcing Build custom dashboards and workflows in under an hour—no technical expertise requiredBest watched with video! https://youtu.be/E6ifGoog9FAKey moments: [00:00] Intro[00:43] MCPs[02:57] Sourcing Agent New Capabilities[05:05] AI Reasoning Trail Transparency[07:46] Building Executive Search Dashboard[11:05] Custom Software Strategy Discussion[14:42] Company Vintage Sourcing Intelligence[16:56] Natural Language Company Research[18:37] Ideal Candidate Profile Evolution[20:29] Claude vs Platform Approach[21:48] Context Driven Candidate Rendering[22:13] Future Building AccountabilityTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    “How I went from recruiter to VP in 5 years” with Flock’s Laura Barnes

    Laura Barnes doesn’t believe in average careers.She joined Flock Safety as a recruiter. Five years later, she’s VP of Talent at one of the fastest-growing companies in America — solving 20% of crime nationwide.In this episode, we go deep on what it actually takes to scale yourself as fast as your company. From crying in the shower to reinventing herself every year, Laura shares a brutally honest look at elite talent leadership.This is a masterclass in conviction, quality of hire, and what separates good from great.You’ll learn:The real reason most people don’t scale with hypergrowth companiesHow Flock measures quality of hire (without creating fear)What great managers do differently in performance managementKey topics covered:[00:00] Intro[02:15] 3 Keys to Rapid Career Growth[03:36] You Can't Teach Gut[06:09] Dad's Corporate Success Story[08:14] Early Leadership Challenges[09:22] Joining Flock as Solo Recruiter[13:30] What is Flock Safety[16:42] Handling Public Controversy[18:52] Quality of Hire Journey[22:11] Survey Questions and Feedback[24:02] Bad Managers and Hiring[27:14] Engineering Hiring Success[29:42] Assessing Manager Candidates[31:00] PIP Success Story[34:42] Moving Too Slow Problem[38:15] Scaling Faster Than Business[39:33] Being Likable Matters[41:19] Operating Above Your LevelTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Why the best employer brands attract — and repel

    The best employer brands don’t try to appeal to everyone. They attract the right people — and actively repel the wrong ones.In this episode, Kellie McCann (ex-Amazon, Walmart, Robinhood) breaks down why authenticity in employer brand isn’t about polishing perception, it’s about reducing friction. If your culture demands intensity, say it. If leadership changes direction often, own it. Clarity filters talent faster than spin ever will.We get candid about Glassdoor manipulation, “Great Place to Work” awards, layoffs, and why most companies reach for bandaids instead of fixing root causes.Key takeaways:Why attracting and repelling are two sides of the same strategyHow honesty reduces recruiting friction and improves quality of hireThe real reason companies manipulate perception instead of fixing cultureWhy employer brand often only truly changes when revenue is at riskIf you want a talent brand that actually holds up under pressure, this one’s for you.For more from Kellie, check her out on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellie-mccann-talent-branding/ And to learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10xKey topics covered:[00:00] Intro[03:14] Employer brand dirty game tactics[04:42] Great place to work awards exposed[08:34] Marketing talent attraction effectively[11:43] Does employer brand really matter[16:02] Distinguishing your company from competitors[21:16] Authenticity versus sanitized corporate messaging[26:23] Glassdoor reviews manipulation secrets[34:33] Employer brand as company mirror[39:00] Amazon layoffs and hiring contradictions[42:27] Power shift between employers employees[46:43] Sales impact on company behavior

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    AI lawsuits, workplace romance, and lazy backchanneling

    In this episode, Nolan and Siadhal give their take on three spicy conversations shaping recruiting today:The Eightfold lawsuit—and why AI-assisted application review actually increases fairness Drama between former OpenAI execs and what it says about relationships at work What people get wrong about exec backchannelingKey takeaways:Most resumes aren’t reviewed at all. AI makes “invisible” candidates visible.Audit trails > gut instinct. You can’t fix bias you can’t see.Backchannels should inform decisions, not replace them.The best recruiters and hiring managers pressure-test references instead of hiding from friction.To learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10xKey topics covered:[00:00] Intro[02:14] Eight Fold Lawsuit Analysis[04:50] AI Screening Credit Report Claims[08:33] Human Bias vs AI Transparency[16:07] Thinking Machines Drama Unfolds[18:25] Fifty Billion Dollar Valuation Reality[21:38] Workplace Relationships Power Dynamics[25:26] Meeting People in Digital Age[28:34] Back Channel Reference Crutch Problem[31:19] Executive Hiring Negative Feedback[34:50] Running Better Reference Checks[36:04] AI Agent Reference Discovery

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    Inside how Deel hires 3,000+ people a year

    Deel hires at a pace most teams can’t imagine—3,000+ hires and 1.5M+ applications a year, and a recruiting team that stays lean by design.In this episode, Nolan sits down with Alan Price, Global Head of TA at Deel, to unpack what it actually takes to hire at that scale—without burning out your team or breaking candidate experience.They go deep on:Why AI screening is improving candidate experience, not hurting itHow Deel processes 1.5M applications with ~70 recruitersWhen high-touch recruiting matters—and when it doesn’t A practical framework for measuring quality of hire over timeKey moments: [00:00] Intro[06:13] Dealing with rapid growth exhaustion[07:04] Leadership means always being on[11:11] 3000 hires and billion dollar ARR[13:33] Scaling 300 hires per month[14:45] Breaking down hiring channel strategy[18:09] AI revolutionizes resume screening[20:31] Candidates fear AI job displacement[26:16] Database search unlocks hidden talent[29:40] Silver medal process evolution[33:49] Measuring quality of hire effectively[37:59] Rise methodology for recruiting excellence[39:19] Surfing the wave of AI changeTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Recruiting tech OG, Jon Bischke, on AI agents, proof of work, and raising the bar

    As the founder of Entelo, one of the earliest recruiting tech startups, and now the leader of ZoomInfo’s recruiting product, Jon Bischke’s seen every wave of industry change. In this episode, he joins Nolan to talk through what actually works in hiring today, what’s changing fast, and why the most elite companies are doubling down on data, not guesswork.You’ll hear about:Why pipeline cures all hiring painHow “proof of work” is becoming more powerful than LinkedIn profilesWhat agent-to-agent recruiting might look like in the near futureHow to raise hiring quality with real benchmarksKey topics covered:[00:00] Intro[03:42] Pipeline cures all recruiting problems[08:15] Entelo's founding story and market creation[11:16] 9 years running Entelo in 3 acts[13:23] Why Entelo copycats struggle to scale[15:32] AI agents talking to AI agents[18:36] Regulatory challenges blocking AI adoption[21:49] John's return to recruiting tech[24:47] ZoomInfo's AI builder catalog launch[28:44] Proof of work sourcing advantage[31:01] Pipeline strength prevents bad hiring decisions[34:56] Bespoke recruiting in the AI era[37:16] Zero executive attrition in 8 years[39:30] Hire above average frameworkTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    What will redefine recruiting in 2026

    In this episode, Nolan and Siadhal share their boldest predictions for recruiting and AI in 2026. They debate the trends that might shape the year to come, including:AI-powered screening and sourcing going mainstream$100M offers for non-technical peopleThe rise of the role of the “agent manager”Increasing invisibility of the ATSSocial unrest from tech workers, & more Tune in, disagree, and drop your own predictions in the comments.Key topics covered:[00:00] Intro[01:10] VC talent partner exodus [03:56] AI becomes first screen for candidates[10:34] ATS becomes invisible through AI agents[12:37] 90 percent of sourcing will be automated[14:13] Outreach automation disaster incoming[20:51] Backlash against human data extraction[23:35] White collar tech worker social unrest[27:46] Agent managers emerge as new job title[32:09] Crazy compensation for non technical talent[38:26] Foundation labs move into applications[42:28] 2026 Predictions Wrap UpTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    The real job of a recruiter? Just two things.

    What makes someone “good”? If you ask Dan McCarthy, Talent Partner at Paradigm (the world’s largest crypto VC), it’s not what’s on their resume. After two decades in tech, he’s got sharp takes on evaluating talent, building elite networks, and why AI will disrupt recruiting less than most people think.In this episode, Nolan and Dan cover the mindset shift recruiters need to thrive in the AI era—and why being interesting, emotionally intelligent, and hyper-reliable will separate the 10x from the rest.Key takeaways:- A recruiter has two real jobs: don’t drop the ball, and have polish & charisma- Long-term relationships are your biggest moat in an AI-saturated world- How your content diet (classics over the infinite scroll) can give you an unfair edgeTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10xKey moments: [00:00] Intro[03:43] Most Candidates Are Not Good[04:55] Relationships and Judgment Don't Scale[07:00] Building Executive Relationships Before Roles Open[08:33] AI Creates Winner Take All Markets[11:01] Tell Me Your Life Story Interview Question[14:25] The Mid Wit Meme in Hiring Processes[16:17] Google's Hiring Process Institutional Failure[19:45] Recruiters Have Two Jobs Don't Mess Up[21:16] Building Charisma and Communication Skills[22:51] Content Diet for Sharp Thinking[24:59] Twitter as the Center of Learning[26:29] How AI Will Change Recruiting[30:05] Human Connection Becomes More Valuable[32:38] Defending Against the AI Tsunami[33:53] Preparing Kids for an Unknown Future

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    GV’s Rhys Hughes on why hiring should actually be your last resort

    Rhys Hughes has led talent at Adobe, Rubrik, and now GV—so when he talks about hiring, you listen. In this episode, Rhys joins Nolan to challenge conventional recruiting wisdom and lay out what actually works at the highest levels of hiring. From betting on internal talent to exposing the flaws in "time to hire," Rhys unpacks how world-class companies build teams—and why your next great hire probably isn’t on LinkedIn.Key takeaways:Why hiring should be your last resort (and what to do instead)The hidden costs of prioritizing speed over qualityHow to earn trust before you need to hireThe underrated power of emotional intelligence in exec hiringKey topics covered:[00:00] Intro[05:17] Rhys’ Journey to GV[11:07] Day to Day Talent Partner Role[15:16] Performance Evaluation at GV[18:06] Key Executive Characteristics for Today[22:30] Back Channel Reference Strategies[26:00] Building Authentic Professional Brand[27:50] Promote Within vs External Hiring[31:52] Why Hiring Should Be Last Resort[35:30] Time to Fill is Overrated Metric[38:56] Current Wild Compensation Market[41:44] Sports Analogies in Executive RecruitingTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Vibe sourcing is here

    In this crossover episode from HR Heretics, Metaview CEO Siadhal Magos joins Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich to demo Metaview's new autonomous AI Sourcing agent. They break down why AI-native sourcing tools are redefining what's possible in recruiting, how "promptless sourcing" creates magic from your hiring conversations, and why everyone from founders to recruiters are seeing massive productivity boosts.Key topics covered:[00:00] Intro[02:28] Why Metaview Built AI Sourcing[04:47] Vibe Sourcing vs Traditional Methods[08:39] Live Demo of AI Agent[11:51] Behavioral Changes for AI Workflows[15:01] Agent Creates Ideal Candidate Profiles[17:00] Boolean Search is Dead[19:17] World Class Sourcing for Everyone[22:19] Natural Language Prompting Power[24:32] Real-Time Feedback and Calibration[26:16] Data Sources and LinkedIn Constraints[28:53] Future ATS Integration Plans[30:04] What's Next for Metaview[31:51] Free Trial Access AvailableTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Talent Partner 2.0: VCs don’t want advice. They want hires.

    Matt Stephenson, Head of Tech Talent at Bain Capital Ventures, joins Nolan to get real about what VC talent partners actually do—and what it really takes to hire the best in 2025.This one covers the whole ground game: VC strategy, comp wars, secondary equity, sourcing experiments, and why the best recruiters today are business partners first.In this episode:What being a VC Talent Partner actually looks likeWhy advice alone doesn’t cut it anymore—only hires doHow leading startups are adapting comp, equity, and secondaries to winKey topics covered:[00:00] Intro[03:44] From Google Sourcer to Bain Capital Ventures[04:24] Talent Partner 2.0 Era Demands[06:46] Working with Seed Series A Companies[09:35] Network First Hiring Strategy[11:15] Compensation Wars at Early Stage[13:56] Secondary Markets Changing Startup Equity[19:22] Recruiter Shortage Crisis Explained[22:24] Quality of Life vs Career Growth[24:02] Creative Recruiting Experiments Required[25:37] AI Tools Transforming Sourcing Workflows[29:14] Founder Recruiter Partnership Problems[31:30] Ground Game Recruiting Strategy[33:48] Relationship Building Over Candidate Experience[36:32] Long Game Network Compound Effects[37:57] Product Feedback as Recruiting Hook[39:59] Building Your Dream Team ListTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Are scorecards killing your exec hiring?

    In this episode, Amber Weinberg, Co-Founder and Managing Partner at Aperture, explains why most go-to-market leaders flop in interviews (hint: they don’t know how to tell their story), and why she ditches scorecards in favor of outcomes and cultural wiring. Her take? The best exec hires come from obsessively deep context—not checkbox criteria.You’ll learn:Why scorecards can derail high-stakes hiringHow to decode a company’s culture with one question: “What are you afraid of?”The reference-checking playbook that goes until the signal stopsWhat it takes to truly integrate a new exec, long after the hire is madeTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10xKey topics covered:[00:00] Intro[02:53] GTM leaders tell terrible candidate stories[05:46] Nolan's pitch gets reconstructed live[08:48] Snowflake versus Databricks storytelling secrets[13:14] Culture and chemistry trump resume brands[16:52] Deep immersion tactics for executive search[19:15] What keeps founders up at night[21:26] Why scorecards kill great hiring decisions[23:39] Reference until you stop learning strategy[25:20] Building proprietary candidate access networks[29:27] Handling negative references with spiky executives[31:25] 6 month executive onboarding reality check[34:48] Board relationship setup prevents surprises

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    The next great recruiters will be grown, not hired

    In this episode, Nolan sits down with Evan Connor, VP of Talent at Ambience, to unpack why the next generation of top recruiters won’t just be great at sourcing and pitching, they’ll be full-stack operators embedded in the business.You’ll learn:Why great recruiters are business operators firstHow to grow recruiting talent instead of waiting to hire itWhat Ambience’s onboarding pitch certification looks likeTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    How to stop wasting your outbound at-bats

    Recruiting top talent isn’t just hard, it’s a game of scarcity. In this episode, Chandler Martin shares how to operationalize talent density with predictive hiring, disciplined outbound, and ruthless clarity.He covers:Why indiscriminate outbound is killing your long-term pipelineThe predictive hiring model Zocdoc uses to anchor hiring managersHow to bring humanity (and speed) back to candidate experienceTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Personio's Fritz Singer on the hard-won lessons of global scaling

    Personio’s VP of Talent, Fritz Singer, breaks down what it actually takes to scale teams globally—and the hard-won lessons he learned along the way.You’ll hear how Fritz:Scaled Personio’s team across 30+ countries, and 12+ nationalitiesBuilt a bar-raiser program with actual teethMade internal mobility a business priority Learned why “context beats commands” the hard wayTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    How to get inside the brain of your best interviewer

    In this episode, Vercel's Head of Global Recruiting Ops,Viet Nguyen, and Nolan unpack a deceptively simple experiment that turned into a hiring cheat code: reverse-engineering the judgment of an A+ interviewer to level up everyone else.What started as a Friday night curiosity turned into a new framework for talent density, interviewer training, and turning instinct into insight. In this episode you’ll learn:How Viet uncovered what behaviors top candidates actually exhibit — and how to operationalize themThe custom tool Vercel built to surface high-signal inbound applicantsHow to stop obsessing over perfect systems and just start buildingTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    The recruiter behind the best GTM execs

    As a senior partner at Swing Search, Annie Wenzel has placed some of the most impactful GTM execs in tech—often before they were obvious bets. In this episode, she breaks down the playbook that consistently lands top 10% talent, even in a market full of fear, fatigue, and overpromising.This conversation is a masterclass in strategic recruiting:Why every great search starts with alignment, not speedHow to vet founders before taking on a searchThe real reason 10x operators say no—and what gets them to yesHow to use candidate experience as leverage, not fluffThis one’s for anyone who’s ever had to win trust, coach a founder, or close someone who doesn’t need the job.To learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    CEO hot takes + Nolan’s AI hacks

    In this episode, Nolan shares unfiltered hot takes from Day One Ventures’ CEO Converge event—what CEOs really think about team chemistry, Glassdoor, and who makes the best salespeople. Then he shifts gears to show recruiters how to go beyond “AI slop” with two practical hacks from his own workflow: a custom GPT for LinkedIn posts and Metaview templates that save 40+ minutes per candidate write-up. To learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Are AI interviewers better than humans?

    AI interviewers are here—from CodeSignal’s new agentic interviewers to a 70,000-applicant experiment where an LLM voice recruiter beat humans in hiring customer service reps. Nolan and Siadhal break down where AI belongs in the process today, why high-volume/inbound is the proving ground, and how human connection still creates alpha.To learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    References: The highest signal in hiring…or totally overrated?

    Are references the most important part of hiring...or totally overrated? In this episode of 10x Recruiting, Nolan and Siadhal debate:Why references can be the highest-signal part of hiring—or a dangerous trapWhen to use "front door" vs backchannel referencesHow to ask questions that actually reveal the truth (and not just polite praise)Check it out and let us know how you run references. To learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Slow fills, high bars, and AI’s next big leap

    From the shortage of top-tier recruiters to the rise of ruthless talent density targets, Nolan and Siadhal break down what they’re seeing in the market right now.They cover three hot-button topics shaping recruiting in 2025:Why companies are moving slow on recruiter hires despite a flooded marketThe real meaning of “non-regrettable attrition” and how to use it as a performance barometerThe newest AI breakthrough—computer use—that could give recruiting teams an edge overnightPlus, the AI experiment you should start running tomorrow to blow your exec team away.To learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Hardcore hiring: An inside look at how Elon companies recruit, with Charles Guillemet

    What does it really take to meet Elon's bar for talent?In this episode, we go deep with Charles Guillemet, whose recruiting career spans Neuralink, Gusto, Meta, and now LocalGlobe. Charles shares what it takes to hire elite operators, why gut instinct is underrated, and how Europe has become a magnet for top-tier tech talent.You’ll hear about:The extreme clarity and rigor of hiring under ElonSimple, brutal questions that cut to signal fastWhy “vibe” isn’t fluff — it’s feedbackTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Toast's Jeff Moore on what Big Tech gets wrong about recruiting

    Jeff Moore spent 13 years at Google leading some of the company’s most elite recruiting teams. Then he left it all for Toast. Why?Jeff unpacks what Big Tech gets wrong about TA, why “just take the call” is still golden advice, how to scale a recruiting team from 20 to 80—fast, and so much more.We cover:How executive recruiting actually works when done rightWhy recruiting will always be an art, not a science The real secret to evaluating recruiter performanceTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Shiv Brodie’s playbook for AI-powered recruiting leverage

    In this episode of our How I AI series, Shiv Brodie (GTM recruiter at Metaview) walks us through the AI workflows she’s using day-to-day to source, engage, and assess top talent. She’s built a powerful system that gives her leverage at every step, and it’s surprisingly simple to replicate.In this episode, you’ll learn:How Shiv’s custom GPT turns a JD into sourcing gold Why she leans on Perplexity, not ChatGPT, for company intelHow she uses Metaview snippets to level-up multi-touch outreachThe power of templates for structured, repeatable hiring excellenceWatch the episode to steal Shiv's playbook for building an unfair competitive advantage with AI. To learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Andy Pittman: Stop selling jobs. Start selling better lives.

    This week, Nolan chats with Andy Pittman, VP of Talent at ShipBob—the e-commerce ops platform that’s built one of the most disciplined talent orgs out there.Andy unpacks how ShipBob sets a high bar for hiring and holds themselves accountable to it. He breaks down their dead-simple but powerful “Would you rehire them?” system for tracking quality of hire, why every backfill requires a business case, and how ShipBob uses internal mobility as a signal of recruiting success.You’ll also hear:Why employer brand should be about selling a better life, not just a jobThe underrated power of fast, structured interview feedbackHow getting founder buy-in changed their recruiting cultureWhy quantity of hires means nothing without retention and performanceTo learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    The truth about getting ahead: Lessons from Deepali Vyas on power, politics, and promotion

    Today we’re talking about what it really takes to excel in your career. Deepali Vyas—25-year executive recruiter and the internet’s most-followed voice in career advice—gives a no-fluff masterclass on how to advance professionally. From negotiating comp to navigating office politics to the art of visibility, Deepali gets into how careers really get built. You'll hear:Why salary is about leverage, not worthHow visibility beats performance every timeWhy likability is a career accelerant—even if it's unfairHow to play politics without losing your soulThe case for building your personal brand before you need itWhy networking is survival, not just socialWhether you're a recruiter, a rising exec, or just career-ambitious, this episode will sharpen your strategy and challenge your beliefs. Follow Deepali Vyas aka The Elite Recruiter on Instagram, TikTok, and LinkedIn for more!And to learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    "How I AI in recruiting” with Qonto's Samy Aumar

    This week, Nolan and Siadhal kick off a new “How I AI in recruiting” series where we’re going deep into real-life workflows with the recruiting pros actually getting leverage from AI on a daily basis. First up: Samy Aumar, People Systems Excellence Manager at Qonto. Samy gives us an inside look at some of the custom AI agents he and the Qonto team have built to get great work done, fast. He demos how they use Metaview and Dust (an AI agent builder) to go from intake calls to live job postings in less than a day. And he shows us their Market Intelligence agent that automates hours of market and competitive research into minutes.If you’re a practitioner looking for inspo on how to level-up your work with AI, this one’s for you!Be sure to check this one out on YouTube so you can follow along with the demos. To learn more about Metaview, the AI platform for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Vercel’s Amina Moinuddin Darwish on winning the war for AI talent

    In this week's episode, Nolan chats with Amina Moinuddin Darwish, Global Head of Talent at Vercel—masters of vibe coding and one of today’s hottest AI companies. Amina gets into how Vercel is winning talent in the super competitive world of AI. She also gives an inside look at how Vercel evaluates recruiters based on the long-term impact of their hires and why CEO approval of hires is key to maintaining their talent density. You'll hear about how Vercel's mantra “iterate to greatness" plays out in their recruiting process and why focusing on continuous, incremental improvements drives big results. Check out this episode on YouTube.To learn more about Metaview, the AI assistant for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Gem’s Steve Bartel on hiring product-obsessed engineers and leveraging AI for an unfair advantage

    Gem co-founder & CEO Steve Bartel breaks down why a lot of startups actually hire the wrong kind of engineers and how to instead identify and attract product-minded technical talent. Steve and Nolan also dive into how AI is helping recruiting teams handle massive applicant influxes and personalize outreach at scale. Steve shares insider tips on how to leverage social proof without burning social cred when outbounding and how to avoid common startup hiring mistakes when recruiting without a talent brand. Check out this episode on YouTube. To learn more about Metaview, the AI assistant for 10x recruiting teams, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Talent 2.0: Audacious Ventures’ Samantha Price on fighting for and closing elite early-stage talent

    “Talent 1.0 is about advice. Talent 2.0 is about doing.” Sam Price, Talent Partner at Audacious Ventures, leaves it all on the battlefield when it comes to fighting for seed-stage talent to join “force-of-nature” founders. In this episode, she drops her genius-level playbook for how to sell and close 10x candidates at the earliest stages of building, including how to: entice with the anti-sell, use reference calls to close instead of vet, win over the candidate’s spouse to win the deal, and so much more. Check out this episode on YouTube. To learn more about Metaview, the world's #1 AI scribe purpose-built for recruiting, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Fighting the rise of fake candidates

    What happens when the “perfect candidate” turns out to be fake? In this episode, Nolan and Metaview co-founder Siadhal Magos unpack the rise of AI-powered candidate deepfakes and what it means for hiring processes. From bad actors trying to steal company data to AI candidates successfully getting hired, the pressure is on for recruiting teams to adapt fast. Nolan and Siadhal explore what’s working (and what’s not) when it comes to fighting back, and what it could mean for AI agents to become a legitimate part of interviewing.Here's the article Nolan and Siadhal discuss: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/fake-job-seekers-use-ai-to-interview-for-remote-jobs-tech-ceos-say.htmlCheck out this episode on YouTube.To learn more about Metaview, the world's #1 AI scribe purpose-built for recruiting, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Coinbase’s Greg Garrison on building a 10x talent culture

    What does it take to get “top talent in every seat"? Greg Garrison, VP of Talent at Coinbase, joins Nolan to break down how they’ve built one of the most high-performing cultures in tech. Greg shares how he spots top recruiters (hint: look for a competitive drive), why every Coinbase hire goes through CEO review, and how they build a hiring culture that’s always in service of talent density. Check out this episode on YouTube.To learn more about Metaview, the world's #1 AI scribe purpose-built for recruiting, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Stop sourcing like it’s 2015: Chris Adams’ masterclass on future-proofed sourcing

    In this episode of 10x Recruiting, Nolan sits down with sourcing OG Chris Adams—sourcer #1 at Uber, former Talent Partner at Atomic, and founder of TalentHerder—for a masterclass on modern sourcing. Chris dives into what most recruiters get wrong about calibration, why it's the most critical step in building an effective top-of-funnel, and how to avoid wasting weeks sourcing candidates your hiring manager won’t even want to meet.Chris breaks down:Why calibration is everything—and how to run it right (sync > docs, always)The only outreach metrics that matter (hint: it’s not just how many DMs you blast)The sniper-vs-volume debate and how to actually build dual funnels for approaching candidatesWhy sending a 5th follow-up isn’t desperate—it’s smartWhether you're a recruiter, sourcer, or founder doing your own outbound, this one is packed with actionable strategies you can put to work today.Check out this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/XjQv9MLlS6ITo learn more about Metaview, the world's #1 AI scribe purpose-built for recruiting, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Arthur Matuszewski on the cost of playing it safe in hiring

    What if your biggest hiring mistakes aren’t who you hire — but who you don’t?In this episode of 10x Recruiting, Arthur Matuszewski (Managing Partner at Carrara, ex-Bridgewater & Better) unpacks the high cost of false negatives in hiring — the exceptional people who slip through the cracks because they don’t fit the usual mold. He shares how Bridgewater tracked its “hiring anti-portfolio” to learn from the candidates they rejected who went on to do extraordinary things, and why your talent strategy should be built around maximizing upside, not minimizing risk.Arthur and Nolan also get into how to build more intellectually honest organizations, why pedigree is a poor proxy for performance, and what it means to truly focus on the work.Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqijcGN3oVsTo learn more about Metaview, the world's #1 AI scribe purpose-built for recruiting, head to www.metaview.ai/10x

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    Live from Transform: Learnings from leaders at Affirm, Greenhouse, & more

    This week, we’re bringing you a special edition of 10x Recruiting live from the Transform conference in Las Vegas. From the Metaview booth, Nolan interviewed an epic lineup of talent leaders from companies like Affirm, Greenhouse, and more. Nolan and his guests cover everything from tactical tips on applying AI in hiring, to market insights on the talent that’s in-demand today, to real-talk on getting leadership buy-in. It’s an episode jam-packed with insights and practical takeaways. Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@10x_Recruiting_podTo learn more about Metaview, the world's #1 AI scribe purpose-built for recruiting, head to www.metaview.ai/10x❇️ Key Topics (audio episode timestamps) 00:53 Emerson Croxton, Director of TA at Affirm, on why AI can only enhance whatever is already going on in your hiring process 5:23: Daniel Chait, Greenhouse CEO, on using AI to promote fairness and giving candidates tools to create more signal 14:34 Melanie Naranjo, CPO at Ethena, on strengthening the HR <> CEO relationship 18:30 Matt Staney, VP of Community at Higher, on the future of DEI21:45 Cassie Leemans, VP of Talent at Craft Ventures, on calibrating 1% talent in the age of AI 25:30 Annie Wenzel, Partner at SwingSearch, on the early-stage startup talent that’s in demand today 29:30 Natalie Stones, co-founder of Talent Collective, with real-talk on the fractional vs. full-time debate34:30 Chloe Glasgow, Head of People & Talent at Normal Compute, on her secret sourcing sauce 37:08 Caitlin Pino, VP of People at Notabene, on hiring a global talent pool 38:50 Virgina Tirado, co-founder of Reku, on the state of leadership recruiting 42:08 Scott Kirsch, VP of Sales & Search at Connery Consulting, on the reality of AI deployment today 44:45 Ed Snook, Director of People Ops & Recruiting at Mysten Labs, on building AI strategies 

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    How the best companies in the world build talent density with Thach Nguyen

    In this episode, Nolan sits down with Thach Nguyen, a recruiting leader who’s made his mark across heavy hitters like Airbnb, Sword, & Google and now runs his own exec search firm, Plenty Search. They cover what recruiting can learn from sales, why incentives in recruiting are out of whack, and the power of finding undiscovered talent. Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@10x_Recruiting_podTo learn more about Metaview, the world's #1 AI scribe purpose-built for recruiting, head to www.metaview.ai/10x❇️ Key Topics (audio episode timestamps) 04:53 How the best companies in the world build talent density 08:59 Founders' discomfort with HR 12:44 It’s ok to ask dumb questions to understand the business15:43 Why the recruiting role is outdated 17:00 The 2 key things recruiters should focus on for success 20:45 Why recruiting shouldn’t be so black and white 23:50 Creative strategies for giving founder feedback 27:35 The power of identifying undiscovered talent  31:42 Grit and perseverance in startups 33:25 Embracing loyalty over traditional resumes

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    How to build a world-class interviewing culture with a16z's Jordan Mazer

    In the first episode of 10x Recruiting, Nolan Church gets into it with Jordan Mazer, Head of Talent at speedrun, Andreessen Horowitz's early-stage gaming accelerator. Jordan, who also previously worked at industry giants like Amazon and Riot Games, shares his insights on what it takes to build a world-class interviewing culture and why achieving hiring excellence requires a cultural shift in how we think about interviewing. He also shares his lessons on the importance of building trust with hiring managers by delivering value, and so much more! Listen, like, and subscribe on: YouTubeSpotifyApple PodcastsOr wherever you get your podcastsTo learn more about Metaview, the world's #1 AI scribe purpose-built for recruiting, head to www.metaview.ai/10x❇️ Key Topics (audio episode timestamps) 00:00 Key takeaways from Nolan and Siadhal (Metaview co-founder)08:10 Why most companies don't include interviewing as part of performance reviews 12:45 A focus on quality interviewing comes from the top 16:45 The cost vs. investment approach to hiring19:00 Founders and hiring managers need to intrinsically understand the pain of making a bad hire 20:50 Interviewers are not assessors of candidate fitness for the role24:40 Thoughts on hiring committees 29:45 Pros and cons of work trials 34:45 Building trust with hiring managers by delivering value

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    Introducing 10x Recruiting

    The 10x Recruiting podcast is launching soon! Subscribe now to make sure you don't miss an episode. 10x Recruiting is the podcast from Metaview that brings you real, unfiltered conversations with today’s top talent leaders. In each episode, Nolan Church (former Carta CPO & DoorDash Head of Talent) and his guests will challenge popular thinking and spark new ideas about what it takes to build world-class teams. We’ll bring you actionable tactics you can actually put into practice now and real metrics to understand what great looks like. Always with an eye towards the future, we’ll keep you in the know about how to stay ahead of the curve in the ever-evolving world of recruiting.

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

10x Recruiting is the podcast from Metaview that brings you real, unfiltered conversations with today’s top talent leaders. In each episode, Nolan Church (former Carta CPO & DoorDash Head of Talent) and his guests will challenge popular thinking and spark new ideas about what it takes to build world-class teams. We’ll bring you actionable tactics you can actually put into practice now and real metrics to understand what great looks like. Always with an eye towards the future, we’ll keep you in the know about how to stay ahead of the curve in the ever-evolving world of recruiting.

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