2 Pastors 1 Calling

Change happens all the time—but transition is what stretches us. In this episode, Fr. Brian and Pastor Chris explore how leaders can guide people through uncertainty, grief, vision, and growth as they embrace the new things God is doing.

In this episode of Two Pastors One Calling, Pastor Chris and Father Brian dive into the complicated reality of “dual relationships” in ministry—when pastors are not only spiritual leaders, but also friends, mentors, coworkers, and trusted confidants. Through honest conversation, they explore boundaries, expectations, trust, and the challenge of being both relational and responsible while caring for others. A candid look at the humanity behind pastoral leadership.

Welcome back friends.This week, we take on a topic that is tough for many people.  It is about taking what is called a Sabbath rest.  This is when we take one day a week, as God did when He created, to prepare for the next 6 days of work.  Resting like God did helps us heal, be restored, and prepare us for the next week.  Take a listen as we talk about how we try to rest in our chaotic world today.

This week, we discuss how we find support for ourselves and supporting those we lead.  We all need support.  As pastors, we need friends to help us decompress by talking and letting us be ourselves.  We also must trust those around us to carry the responsibility given to us as pastors as we wear many hats throughout the day, and sometines in the same meeting. 

Welcome to season 2.  This season, we will look at more practical things of being a pastor, which we hope to see how God works in the ordinary life.  We kick off this season with an episode about a day in the life of a pastor.  We talk about whether there really is a normal day, since we can experience the highs and lows of the human experience, and how God meets us in our own highs and lows.  We then discuss how our prayer lives help create the rule of life for us.

You see more clearly once the storm has passed.  The same is when we are discerning God's Hand in our lives.   This week, Pastor Chris and Fr. Brian discuss how we have understood God's Hand and guidance in our lives.  Through those moments of the greatest storms, we can look back and see where God was working.

This week we discuss the different ways we have known God's presence.  How He has guided us to know when God's presence is close to us.  It can be tough to know the closeness of God, so we also talk about how emotions can help and hinder our discernment.  

This week we discuss the greatest personal suffering that we have gone through.  As pastors, we must learn from our own personal suffering to help others through theirs.  We must live the cross so that we may help others carry theirs.

This week, we discuss what a hero is and who we have seen fulfill this in our eyes. Our heroes teach us what it means to be human and follow God, and inspire us to move forward in our faith.  How have the people you lead inspired you?

Come and listen as we learn about the journey of faith that Pastor Chris.  He has an interesting story that traces God's work in his life.  He will share about ministry, family, and how he sees God work in his life today.

Listen to the faith journey of Fr. Brian Phelps. Listen to the journey of faith that God has sent him on to be a priest.  Listen to his life journey and how God has guided him in his life.