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Between Beauty & Heartache
by Chassie Anders
The Between Beauty & Heartache podcast is a safe place where host, Chassie Anders, unpacks the hard, messy, and heartbreaking parts of her own story. How do we hold the tension of the immaculate beauty and the overwhelming amount of heartache happening all around us? She doesn't have it all figured out, but she would love to explore those nuances with you.
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What We Didn’t Know: Complex Trauma, Marriage, and the Road to Repair
Resources mentioned:The Place We Find Ourselves podcast by Adam YoungThe Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der KolkNational Center for PTSD – U.S. Department of Veterans Affairscomplextrauma.org – Complex Trauma ResourceThe Allender Center: For those seeking deeper healing through story, The Allender Center offers training and care rooted in Narrative Focused Trauma Care® (NFTC). Their mission is to foster redemption and healing by helping individuals tell their stories with awareness and integrity. To connect with a trained story coach or therapist, visit their NFTC Directory.Trigger Warning: Includes discussion of trauma, emotional dysregulation, and marital strain. Listen gently and take breaks if needed.
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Beauty for Beauty’s Sake: The Eternal Weight of Ordinary Things with Jordan Raynor
Connect with Jordan Raynor:🔗 Visit Jordan’s Website📚 Explore his books, podcast, and other resources for purposeful living and Christ-centered productivity. ***This episode was recorded in 2024, but you can still snag a copy of The Sacredness of Secular Work or his latest book, Five Mere Christians. Listen to more from Jordan Raynor & Chassie Anders🔗 Listen nowMore from Between Beauty and Heartache:💌 Subscribe to the newsletter📱 Follow Chassie on Instagram: @betweenbeautyandheartache @chassieanders🎧 Leave a review and share this episode with a friend who needs the reminder: your ordinary work carries eternal weight.
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Bonus Episode: Some Holiday Season Encouragement
Chassie references Yoga with Adriene in this episode as a helpful way to tend to your body. Yoga After Disaster. While she is referring to a physical disaster, Chassie does this Yoga after relational ruptures. Yoga For Post Traumatic Stress. This is helpful year round for Chassie, but if the holidays bring up challenging feelings, this might be extra helpful right now. Yoga For Migraines. Great way to tend to your body in the midst of a migraine. Aundi Kolber is referenced in this episode. Just following her on instagram is a way Chassie feels encouraged, but she has many books and helpful resources for you to explore being softer with yourself. If there is anything you want to ask Chassie, engage with her on instagram, or via email: [email protected]. She would love to hear from you!
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Healing Through Story: Robyn's Story Work Journey
Robyn Kolk courageously shared part of her story with us, and here is a link to her photography. The story work approach originated from the Allender Center. If your curious about engaging your own story, visit their website to learn more and find a story work Coach.Robyn mentions Adam Young's podcast, The Place We Find Ourselves, a huge resource for both Robyn & Chassie. Chassie mentioned the "U Diagram" a helpful tool that Cathy Loerzel, co-founded The Allender Center, Author, and story work coach. Click the link to learn more about Cathy.
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Connecting the Dots: Exploring Your Thoughts, Feelings, and Behaviors
Here is a link to find out more about our guest, Candice Fraser, LPC, and how her counseling services, as well as her podcast The Couch Next Door might be of interest to you or someone you love. If you want more conversation with Chassie & Candice, you can listen to their episode on The Couch Next Door: Story Work (with Chassie Anders)
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Embracing Play: Healing Your Inner Artist
In this episode, Chassie opens up about her personal journey with complex trauma and its impact on her creativity. As a child, she was filled with passion for singing, dancing, and art, but over time, those desires faded. Discover how Chassie is reclaiming her creative spirit through Story Work and Julia Cameron's "The Artist's Way." She shares valuable insights on overcoming creative blocks, the importance of embracing child-like play, and the healing power of art. Join us for an inspiring conversation about finding joy and reconnecting with your inner artist and inner child. Here is a link to the resources referenced in this episode.
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Is This a Cry for Help? (Part Two)
"You can't save your spouse, but you can offer connection." – Chassie AndersIn this episode of Between Beauty & Heartache, join Chassie and Noah Anders as they continue their story of what it's like to walk alongside one another through healing from trauma and engaging their stories. They discuss what is happening in our brains and bodies when we or our spouse experience anger and dysregulation, and why connection is so important in helping to regulate our nervous systems. To close the episode, Chassie and Noah answer a few listener questions. Tune in for more episodes in January 2024! Resources mentioned in this episode:The Suicide Solution: Finding Your Way Out of the Darkness by Daniel Emina and Rick LawrenceThe Allender Center (for connecting with a trauma-informed therapist or Story Work coach)
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Is This a Cry for Help? (Part One)
In this episode of Between Beauty & Heartache, we're at the part in the Anders' story where Chassie and Noah have recently returned to the U.S. after spending two years serving overseas as missionaries. Despite hoping that their challenges would diminish upon their return, they soon discovered that Chassie's cries for help hinted at deeper issues with significant implications. Join them as they discuss navigating one of the most challenging phases of their marriage and uncovering the revelations that God was beginning to unfold. Tune in for part two on Tuesday, December 26th. Mentioned in this episode: Mere Christians Podcast with Jordan RaynorCalled to Create by Jordan Raynor
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What's Wrong With Me?
In this episode of Between Beauty & Heartache, Chassie talks with her husband, Noah, about what it's like to walk alongside someone and engage your story in a safe, loving relationship. They discuss how they met, how they went from "just friends" to a married couple, what it was like to spend two years overseas as missionaries, and what happened when Chassie started to realize that she had unresolved trauma. You won't want to miss this encouraging conversation that shows what it can look like to walk alongside a trusted, loving partner as you engage the hard and heartbreaking parts of your story. Oh, and you'll want to follow Noah Anders on Instagram as he takes on spicy food and offers tasty snack recipes!
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The Beauty of "Being With"
"Safety is not the absence of threat, it is the presence of connection."— Dr. Gabor MatéOur very nature is rooted in relationships, a truth that resonates across multiple aspects of our lives and stories. Through the lens of the Word of God, we discover the profound truth that Jesus is "Immanuel"—God with us. From a scientific standpoint, our brains are intricately wired to foster secure relationships, resulting in healthy attachments, well-regulated nervous systems, and optimal brain development.Join Chassie in this episode of Between Beauty & Heartache as she draws from reputable sources to delve into the far-reaching implications of God's presence and safety, the importance of meeting our early developmental needs, the art of tuning into our emotions, the significance and depth of "being with" ourselves, and the transformative influence of God's constant presence on our journey toward healing, as we navigate the delicate balance between beauty and heartache.Check out resources talked about in this episode.
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Embracing Hope in a Broken World: Our Journey Toward Eden
In this episode of Between Beauty & Heartache, Chassie Anders invites Cathy Loerzel to discuss the foundations of story work, what it means to attune to the younger parts of ourselves, the importance of the healing journey, why we still experience heartache, and much more. Cathy spent the last 15 years developing the theory and methodology of a popular new coaching and therapeutic approach called Story Work that moves people through their past stories of heartache to heal and discover healthier ways of being in the world. Cathy believes, "If we are honest, we know that none of us have escaped heartache and trauma in this beautifully broken world. The question then is how we heal in order not just to make it through, but truly thrive in the light of all that God would hope for us."Wherever you are in your journey toward healing the painful parts of your story, may this conversation infuse you with hope!Episode Resources:Redeeming Heartache by Dan Allender and Cathy LoerzelOther books mentioned on Between Beauty & Heartache
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Engaging My Story: Part Three
"Trauma is not what I thought it was, and how I heal from it is also not what I thought it was." Chassie wraps up this three-part episode series of sharing her story as a means to invite you into processing your own heartache, as well. If you find yourself stuck in a cycle of pain, grief, or shame, you don't have to stay there and this is not the end of your story. Listen in as Chassie sets the stage for the upcoming episodes and guest conversation on Between Beauty & Heartache—you'll find out what you can expect to hear and learn on this journey!
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Engaging My Story: Part Two
"Heartache feels bigger, but even the tiniest bits of hope help me press on." When Chassie returned stateside after serving two years in ministry overseas, she started experiencing intense panic attacks. She had gone through anxiety before, but this time was different. Her body was telling her that things needed to change, and there had to be a better way to live and thrive, not just survive anymore. Listen in and find out what happened when Chassie attuned to her body's signals and the surprising resources she found that helped her take hold of healing. Recommended resource: The Place We Find Ourselves, Episode 110: How Do You Move Through Past Trauma? (featuring Jerry Sittser, author of A Grace Disguised: How the Soul Grows Through Loss.
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Engaging My Story: Part One
All of us have a "story of our lives". And if we look back far enough, we might just uncover the places and moments that shaped our behaviors, emotions, worldview, self-view, reactions, and more. What if our story feels too painful to engage? Have we lost sight of the child within us who is asking for help? Are we too far gone to find the road back to our truest selves? In this episode, Chassie invites you into her story as she uncovers the moments of loss, grief, heartbreak, and overwhelm that led her to this journey of story work and healing. You won't want to miss this episode!
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Introducing Between Beauty & Heartache
Welcome to the Between Beauty & Heartache podcast—I'm so glad you're here! Life is beautiful and life can be downright heartbreaking. So, how do we live a fruitful life amid this tension? In the first few episodes of this podcast, I'll take you through my story of healing from trauma, navigating life as a creative entrepreneur, and how I search for the beautiful things in life while holding space for the heartbreaking moments in the past and present. Along the way, you'll also hear from insightful guests as they offer practical ways to engage our stories and live more fully by honoring our pain and pursuing healing. However you came across this show, I truly believe you are meant to be here. I hope you'll stick around and check out all new episodes of Between Beauty & Heartache, starting Tuesday, October 17.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Between Beauty & Heartache podcast is a safe place where host, Chassie Anders, unpacks the hard, messy, and heartbreaking parts of her own story. How do we hold the tension of the immaculate beauty and the overwhelming amount of heartache happening all around us? She doesn't have it all figured out, but she would love to explore those nuances with you.
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Chassie Anders
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