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Connecting with Conservation
by jgassett
Do you enjoy angling, boating, hunting, recreational shooting or just getting outdoors and into the backcountry? Connecting with Conservation is the only podcast that delves into the business of conservation. We talk with state wildlife agency and industry experts about how conservation is achieved in the United States along with the tremendous impacts to local economies that driven by the recreational user. Join our hosts as they explore this often unknown or misunderstood aspect of how fish and wildlife conservation works in the U.S.
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Season 3: Episode 17: Firearms, Conservation & the Excise Tax: How Firearm Importers Fund Wildlife
What does a firearm importer have to do with healthy deer herds, turkey populations, and public shooting ranges? More than most people realize. In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett of the Wildlife Management Institute and Jim Curcuruto of Outdoor Stewards of Conservation sit down with Neil Sanders, VP of Sales and Marketing at SDS Arms, to pull back the curtain on how the outdoor firearms industry quietly funds one of the most successful conservation models in the world. Neil brings more than two decades of experience in the outdoor industry — from his early days with Peterson's Publishing titles like Guns & Ammo and North American Whitetail, to long tenures at Thompson Center and Mossy Oak, to his current role growing SDS Arms and its portfolio of brands including Spandau Arms, MAC (Military Armament Corp.), Inglis, and Tokarev. Based in Texas, Neil is an avid bird and big game hunter who has built his career around connecting consumers with products they actually want — and making sure those products carry their share of the conservation load. Under his leadership, SDS Arms has grown more than 70% in four years, importing over 200,000 firearms annually, each one generating Pittman-Robertson excise tax revenue that flows directly to state wildlife agencies for habitat, access, and public shooting infrastructure. The conversation covers how the Pittman-Robertson excise tax works for importers, why firearm companies rarely get public credit for the conservation dollars they generate, how SDS Arms supports organizations like NWTF, Ducks Unlimited, Delta Waterfowl, and Quail Forever at both the national and chapter level, and what the outdoor industry needs to do differently to tell its conservation story. Jon and Jim also make the case that wildlife agencies need to do a better job recognizing their industry partners publicly, and Neil shares the story of how a novel pump-action shotgun nicknamed the "Butt Pump" went viral with 50 million social media views seemingly overnight. FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE FIND US AT: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://stewardsofconservation.org SDS Arms: https://sdsarms.com #wildlifemanagementinstitute #outdoorstewards #pittmanrobertson #huntingisconservation #wildlifeconservation #conservationfunding #conservation #SDSArms #firearmsconservation #wildlifefunding #nwtf #ducksunlimited #hunting #wildlifeconservation
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Season 3, Episode 16: Working Forests as Conservation Assets with Jimmy Bullock from RMS
On this episode of Connecting with Conservation, co-hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Jimmy Bullock, Senior Vice President of Forest Sustainability at Resource Management Service (RMS). A self-described "recovering deer biologist," Jimmy earned his stripes in the private forestry sector with Anderson-Tully Company, Union Camp Corporation, and International Paper before joining RMS — a Timber Investment Management Organization (TIMO) that today manages roughly 2.2 million acres across eight southern states and Brazil on behalf of institutional investors. Jimmy also serves on the board of the Wildlife Management Institute and is active with Boone and Crockett Club and the National Conservation Leadership Institute. The conversation explores how working forests are quietly becoming one of the most important conservation tools in the American South. Jimmy walks through RMS's role in reintroducing the federally endangered reticulated flatwoods salamander to private land in Santa Rosa County, Florida, the largest conservation easement ever closed in South Carolina (nearly 50,000 acres in the Pee Dee River Basin), and the shift from short-rotation pulpwood management to longer sawtimber rotations that create the open-canopy, herbaceous-ground-cover conditions many declining species need. He also explains how longleaf pine restoration, long considered economically unviable, has been made workable through an innovative easement structure that accounts for opportunity cost and perpetual management. A major thread of the episode is the NAFO Wildlife Conservation Initiative and its Working Forests for Wildlife program, a collaborative model with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service that covers 44 million acres of NAFO-member land nationwide. Jimmy details how programmatic agreements and species-specific annexes have turned regulatory liability into conservation opportunity for the northern long-eared bat, Red Hills Salamander, gopher tortoise, and alligator snapping turtle. His closing message — that trust between private landowners, state agencies, and federal partners is the foundation of modern conservation — is a theme any listener working in this space will recognize. For More Information, Visit us at: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://stewardsofconservation.org Resource Management Service: https://www.resourcemgt.com #wildlifemanagementinstitute #forestry #conservationfunding #wildlifeconservation #workingforests #sustainableforestry #longleafpine #privatelandconservation #endangeredspecies #gophertortoise #nafo #outdoorstewards
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Season 3: Episode 15: Pittman-Robertson & the Firearms Legacy with Luke Thorkildsen from Weatherby
What does it actually cost to keep wildlife on the landscape and who's paying for it? In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Luke Thorkildsen, Chief Operating Officer of Weatherby, one of America's most iconic and longest-standing firearms manufacturers. Weatherby is an 81-year-old, still family-owned company that made the move from California to Sheridan, Wyoming in 2018–2019, a transition that, as Luke describes it, "almost broke" them but ultimately more than doubled their revenue and workforce. Luke walks through how Pittman-Robertson Act excise taxes work from the manufacturer's side: built into the first sale price, paid quarterly, and totaling millions of dollars annually from Weatherby alone. It's a tax the industry effectively imposed on itself and the conservation infrastructure it funds reaches far beyond most people realize. Beyond the factory floor, Luke serves as chairman of the board at the Mule Deer Foundation and brings a candid perspective on where mule deer stand right now: one of the few big game species in the U.S. that is genuinely declining. Habitat loss, weather patterns, and landscape fragmentation are all in play, and the conversation goes beyond slogans to look honestly at the challenges ahead. The episode also covers the history of the Weatherby Award, a prestigious lifetime achievement recognition in hunting that predates most people's awareness of the brand itself. It also discusses the company's full product line from the .224 Weatherby to the .460 Weatherby Mag, and the new ultralight Backcountry Capra rifle coming in at just four pounds. For anyone who's ever wondered where conservation money actually comes from, or who's behind the numbers cited in policy discussions, this episode provides a clear, grounded answer from someone who writes the check. For more information, visit us at: Wildlife Management Institute: https://www.wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation: https://www.stewardsofconservation.org Weatherby Inc: https://www.weatherby.com #connectingwithconservation #Weatherby #WeatherbyFirearms #pittmanrobertson #wildlifeconservation #muledeerfoundation #muledeer #publiclands #huntersforconservation #hunting #wildlifemanagement #wmi #wildlifemanagementinstitute #outdoorstewards #excisetax #conservationfunding #backcountryhunting #FirearmsIndustry #SelfReliantHunter #WyomingHunting #biggamehunting #CapeBufalo #MarkV #BackcountryCapra #65RPM #300WeatherbyMag
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Season 3: Episode 14: Forests, Wildlife, and Private Lands: Conservation Beyond Public Ground.
What does the timber industry have to do with hunting, fishing, and wildlife conservation? More than most people realize. In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Darren Miller, Vice President of Forestry Programs at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement (NCASI) to explore how private forest lands, responsible timber management, and science-based research are quietly driving conservation outcomes across the country. Darren brings a career that bridges academia, corporate environmental stewardship, and applied wildlife science. After earning his graduate degree at Mississippi State studying black bears and wild turkeys, he spent more than 20 years as a wildlife scientist and research program lead for Weyerhaeuser Company, managing environmental research across millions of acres of southern timberlands. He joined NCASI in 2018, where he now leads a team of wildlife scientists, forest hydrologists, and carbon and climate specialists serving the forest products sector. The conversation covers the often-overlooked role of large private forest ownerships in supporting biodiversity, from game species like white-tailed deer and wild turkey to pollinators, songbirds, bats, gopher tortoises, and rare aquatic species. Darren explains how the Wildlife Conservation Initiative, a collaborative partnership with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the National Alliance of Forest Owners, has documented 25 species of conservation concern on actively managed industrial forest lands in a single South Alabama landscape, and how that work is now opening doors to endangered species reintroduction on private lands. The episode also digs into practical topics: how sustainable forestry certification standards (SFI and FSC) protect wetlands, vernal pools, and unique ecological sites; how forest thinning and regeneration cycles benefit pollinators; how eDNA technology is revolutionizing rare species surveys; and the remarkable recovery of the Louisiana Black Bear — a story that started with Darren's own master's research and came full circle when a bear showed up on his Mississippi property last November. This is an episode about the science, the partnerships, and the private landowners who are making conservation work on working lands. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://www.wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://www.stewardsofconservation.org National Council for Air and Stream Improvement: https://www.ncasi.org #wildlifeconservation #PrivateLands #forestmanagement #sustainableforestry #hunting #fishing #conservation #NCASI #LouisianaBlackBear #pollinators #esa #endangeredspecies #wildlifemanagement #sfi #fsc #HunterFunding #pittmanrobertson #connectingwithconservation #wildlifemanagementinstitute #outdoorstewards
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Season 3: Episode 13: Bringing Back the Bobwhite: Quail Conservation Across the Landscape
The northern bobwhite was once a fixture of the American countryside — heard on nearly every farm, fence row, and field edge from Texas to New England. Today, populations have collapsed across most of that range, and bringing them back requires more than good intentions. It takes habitat, scale, and a lot of people willing to change how they manage their land. In this episode, Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with John Morgan, President and CEO of the National Bobwhite and Grassland Initiative Foundation, to dig into what's driving the decline, what recovery actually looks like on the ground, and why quail conservation matters far beyond the bird itself. John Morgan brings 20-plus years of on-the-ground experience to the conversation, from managing wildlife areas in Florida to running Kentucky Fish and Wildlife's small game program before joining NBGI. He traces the initiative's 30-year history, from a 1995 meeting of southeastern state wildlife agencies who recognized the problem was too big for any single state to solve, to today's 25-state network spanning federal agencies, state wildlife agencies, universities, and nonprofits. The conversation covers what quail actually need to survive (more edge, less mowing, and a lot more connected habitat), why five to ten percent of the right landscape can make a real difference, and how a CREP-driven restoration effort in central Kentucky once had hunters taking bag limits of wild bobwhite for the first time in two decades. The episode also tackles some of the harder questions: Why can't a small landowner just fix their own ten acres and call it done? What role does the Farm Bill play — and where does it fall short? And perhaps most importantly, how does restoring native grassland habitat connect to clean water, pollinator health, and even human wellness in ways that can build conservation support far beyond the hunting community? Whether you're a quail hunter, a wildlife professional, a farmer, or just someone who wants to understand what healthy working lands should look like, this one is worth your time. For More Information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://stewardsofconservation.org National Bobwhite and Grassland Initiative: https://nbgi.org #wildlifeconservation #bobwhite #habitatrestoration #farmbill #quail #connectingwithconservation #hunting #conservationfunding #NativeGrasslands #outdoorstewards #wildlifemanagementinstitute
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Season 3: Episode 12: The Truth About Regulated Hunting in Africa, Conservation & the Cecil Effect
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett of the Wildlife Management Institute and Jim Curcuruto of the Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation welcome Sue Tidwell, award-winning author of Cries of the Savanna. Sue came to Africa not as a hunter but as a skeptic — a Western Pennsylvania deer hunting family background gave her an understanding of the North American model, but hunting lions, leopards, and zebras felt entirely different. What she discovered on the ground in Tanzania changed everything. Through her friendship with Lillian, a female government-assigned game scout, and her immersion in the daily realities of remote African communities living alongside dangerous wildlife, Sue came to understand that regulated hunting is not just compatible with conservation — in many areas it is the only thing making conservation economically viable. Her debut book, honored with a Reader's Favorite Gold Medal, the Professional Outdoor Media Association's Pinnacle Award, and The Wildlife Society's Conservation Education Award, tells that story through adventure, humor, and hard-won perspective. The conversation tackles some of the most contentious issues surrounding African hunting head-on including the photo tourism versus hunting debate, the bastardization of the phrase 'regulated hunting' following the Cecil the Lion controversy of 2015, and the devastating consequences that hunting bans have had on lion habitat, anti-poaching capacity, and local communities across Tanzania and beyond. Sue shares a deeply troubling case study involving the International Fund for Animal Welfare's elephant relocation project in Kasanga, which resulted in human deaths, destroyed crops, and shattered livelihoods, while the organization declared it a success and continued fundraising on it. Jon and Sue agree that well-meaning donors need to research conservation organizations carefully, comparing mission spending ratios before writing checks to groups that may be using donations to fund lawsuits against the very wildlife agencies that manage the animals they claim to protect. The episode closes with a practical discussion of how regulated hunting keeps money, meat, and anti-poaching presence in remote African communities — and why removing hunters from the equation exposes those landscapes to the exact threats conservation donors say they oppose. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://conservationstewards.org Sue Tidwell — Author of Cries of the Savanna: https://www.suetidwell.com Cries of the Savanna is available on Amazon, Spotify, and Carbon TV (free audio by chapter). #wildlifeconservation #AfricanWildlife #RegulatedHunting #CriesOfTheSavanna #SueTidwell #HuntingInAfrica #ConservationAfrica #antipoaching #NorthAmericanConservationModel #huntersforconservation #wildlifemanagement #SustainableUse #PhotoTourism #africasafari #humanwildlifeconflict #outdoorpodcast #conservationstorytelling #huntingcommunity #WildlifeAdvocacy #CecilTheLion #ethicalhunting #conservationfunding #wildlifemanagementinstitute #ConservationStewards #AfricaConservation
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Season 3: Episode 11: Mobilizing Hunters, Fighting Eradication & the Killing Catalina Documentary
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett of the Wildlife Management Institute and Jim Curcuruto of the Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation sit down with Charles Whitwam, Founder and President of Howl for Wildlife. Charles traces the origin of Howl to a grassroots effort he organized with co-founder John Stallone to stop a California Senate bill that would have eliminated black bear hunting in the state. The rapid success of that campaign, fueled by hunters mobilizing nationally, not just locally, convinced him that the hunting community desperately needed a permanent, tech-driven infrastructure to match the organizational sophistication of anti-hunting groups. Launched four years ago, Howl for Wildlife has since built an action platform that generates personalized, AI-assisted messages to legislators and commissioners, moving well beyond the form letters that legislative staffers have learned to ignore. Charles explains how that same model helped hunters show up in force, over 400 strong, to a recent Colorado wildlife commission meeting, and why he believes face-to-face engagement with non-hunters in everyday settings is ultimately more powerful than any digital campaign. The conversation takes a deep dive into the Catalina Island mule deer controversy and Howl's documentary film Killing Catalina, which has surpassed 200,000 YouTube views in its first 40 days. Charles details how he became skeptical of the Catalina Island Conservancy's plan to eradicate all deer on the island using sharpshooters from helicopters. He deployed thermal drones to survey actual deer densities and uncovered significant inconsistencies between the Conservancy's claimed management programs and what the island's outfitter, fired after 26 years, reported actually happened on the ground. The episode closes with a powerful message about coalition-building: the Catalina fight has united hunters, LA County supervisors, social media influencers, and even a representative of the Catalina Humane Society, all calling for ethical hunting as the management solution over eradication and waste. FOR MORE INFORMATION: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://conservationstewards.org Howl for Wildlife: https://www.howlforwildlife.org Howl for Wildlife on social media: @howl_org Killing Catalina Documentary: https://www.howlforwildlife.org #wildlifeconservation #HowlForWildlife #KillingCatalina #catalinaisland #muledeer #HunterAdvocacy #ballotboxbiology #sciencebasedmanagement #wildlifemanagement #HuntingRights #NorthAmericanConservationModel #conservationstorytelling #outdoorpodcast #huntingcommunity #WildlifePolicy #huntersforconservation #CaliforniaHunting #PublicTrustDoctrine #WildlifeAdvocacy #antipoaching #outdoorstewards #HuntingAndConservation #wildlifemanagementinstitute #ConservationStewards #HowlPack
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Season 3: Episode 10: Firearms Innovation, Conservation Funding & the Future of the Hunting Industry
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett of the Wildlife Management Institute and Jim Curcuruto of the Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation sit down with Shane Meisel, President of Christensen Arms — the Utah-based company that pioneered carbon fiber rifle barrels in 1995 and has grown into one of America's premier precision rifle manufacturers with approximately 200 employees. Shane traces his career from early outdoor experiences outside Eugene, Oregon through 11 years at Leupold — where he rose to head of marketing — followed by a stint as president of Field Ethos Journal, before landing at Christensen Arms. The conversation covers what carbon fiber does for a hunting rifle (weight reduction without sacrificing rigidity or accuracy), why a sub-6-pound mountain rifle is a game changer for backcountry hunters, and how Christensen Arms has expanded beyond its bolt-action roots into carbon fiber stocks, MSR platforms, and a new walnut-stocked safari line in 375 H&H. The episode takes a deeper look at the financial backbone of American wildlife conservation — specifically the Pittman-Robertson excise tax, which requires firearms and ammunition manufacturers to contribute 11% of revenue to conservation funding. Shane and the hosts connect that tax directly to the $1 billion annually that flows from the firearms and ammunition industry into state wildlife agencies, alongside another $1 billion from hunting license sales. Jon shares the origin story of the Wildlife Management Institute, founded in 1911 by the firearms industry precisely because manufacturers understood that without healthy wildlife populations, there would be no hunters to sell to. The group also discusses Christensen Arms' conservation partnerships with organizations including the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, Mule Deer Foundation, Safari Club International, and Ducks Unlimited. The conversation rounds out with a look at emerging trends in the firearms industry — ammunition and caliber innovation, suppressor growth and potential NFA reform, the modern sporting rifle market, and the troubling rise of ballot-box biology in states like Oregon and Colorado where anti-hunting initiatives bypass the science-based wildlife management system entirely. Shane and the hosts agree that lowering barriers to entry for new hunters and shooters — access to land, tags, ranges, and education — is as important to the future of conservation funding as any policy fight. FOR MORE INFORMATION: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://conservationstewards.org Christensen Arms: https://www.christensenarms.com -------------------------------------------------- #wildlifeconservation #ChristensenArms #CarbonFiberRifle #pittmanrobertson #conservationfunding #huntingindustry #precisionrifleseries #FirearmsInnovation #boltactionrifle #mountainhunting #huntersforconservation #NorthAmericanConservationModel #wildlifemanagement #outdoorindustry #longrangeshooting #Suppressors #HuntingAndShooting #RMEF #MuleDeerFoundation #ducksunlimited #outdoorpodcast #BallotBoxBiology #wildlifemanagementinstitute #ConservationStewards #ScienceBasedManagement
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Season 3: Episode 9: Outdoor Media, Conservation Storytelling & the Hunting Industry Job Market
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett of the Wildlife Management Institute and Jim Curcuruto of the Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation sit down with Kevin Paulson — founder of HuntingLife.com, creator of the Outdoor Hive newsletter, and Executive Director of AGLOW (Association of Great Lakes Outdoor Writers). Kevin traces his career from litigation work in Washington, D.C. through outfitting in Idaho and Montana, to building one of the outdoor industry's most recognized media platforms. He discusses how storytelling has shifted from newspaper columns and legacy print magazines to blogs, podcasts, YouTube, and digital newsletters — and why that evolution is critical to growing hunting and fishing culture in a country where fewer than 10% of the population hunts. The conversation covers the outsized role outdoor media plays in shaping public perception, including a focused discussion on the Boone and Crockett Club's poaching research led by Jon and his wife. The hosts and Kevin agree that public attitudes toward poaching must shift the same way drunk driving did over the past 40 years — from tolerated to socially unacceptable — and that effective storytelling is the primary tool to drive that change. Kevin also breaks down the trade show circuit, explaining how events like SHOT Show, the Archery Trade Association show, SCI, and the Western Hunt Conservation Expo serve as essential networking hubs where he runs up to 65 meetings in a single week across his three organizations. Finally, Kevin introduces Outdoor Hive, a free weekly newsletter now in its 77th issue that lists outdoor industry jobs from the factory floor to the C-suite — filling a gap that LinkedIn and other general job platforms have never addressed for the hunting, fishing, and shooting industries. He also previews AGLOW's upcoming annual conference in Lewiston, New York near Niagara Falls, which will feature a fishing tournament on the Niagara River — one of the premier freshwater fisheries in North America. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://conservationstewards.org HuntingLife.com: https://huntinglife.com Outdoor Hive : https://outdoor-hive.com Association of Great Lakes Outdoor Writers: https://aglowoutdoors.com #wildlifeconservation #huntinglife #outdoormedia #ConservationStorytelling #HuntingIndustry #OutdoorHive OutdoorJobs #OutdoorCareers #aglow #OutdoorWriters #huntingandfishing #NorthAmericanConservationModel #PoachingAwareness #wildlifemanagement #huntingcommunity #outdoorpodcast #conservationfunding #wildlifeprotection #HuntersForConservation #outdoorindustry #OutdoorNetworking #SHOTShow #wildlifemanagementinstitute #outdoorstewards #OutdoorStorytelling
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Season 3: Episode 8: Bird Dogs, Upland Hunting, and the Conservation Economy with Scott Linden
Scott Linden, creator of Wingshooting USA and host of the Upland Nation podcast, joins Jon and Jim to explore the cultural, economic, and conservation impact of upland bird hunting. With decades of experience across radio, television, and outdoor media, Scott shares stories about his start in journalism, his transition into outdoor broadcasting, and how bird dogs became the central passion that shaped his entire career. From pointers to Labradors, he discusses why dogs are the top reason many hunters take to the field and how they both attract newcomers and keep long‑time hunters active. The conversation also examines how hunting fuels the broader conservation economy through licenses, excise taxes, and the lesser‑recognized budgets tied to dog ownership, gear, and travel. Scott reflects on years of promoting R3 principles, creating content that inspires hunter recruitment, and advocating for a broader outdoor‑recreation “funnel” that welcomes newcomers at every level. Whether you love dogs, upland hunting, or the business side of conservation, this episode offers an insightful look at the traditions and motivations that continue to shape America’s outdoor community. For more information Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://outdoorstewards.org Wingshooting USA: https://findbirdhuntingspots.com #uplandhunting #birddogs #wingshooting #hunting #outdoors #huntingdog #gundog #huntinglife #outdoorlife #whatgetsyououtdoors #wildlifeconservation #huntingisconservation #nature #wildlife #pointerdogs #retrievers #huntingseason #dogtraining #outdoorstewards #wildlifemanagementinstitute
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Season 3: Episode 7: The Future of Deer Hunting, Recruitment, and Conservation Marketing.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, Jon and Jim welcome Jenifer Wisniewski, Chief Marketing Officer at the National Deer Association and long-time leader in conservation communications. Jen shares her unique background in state agency marketing and R3 efforts—recruitment, retention, and reactivation—and explains how thoughtful marketing strategies can generate millions in license revenue and boost federal conservation funding. With 11 million deer hunters in America, she highlights the incredible influence of deer hunting on conservation. The conversation explores the evolving challenges facing deer managers and hunters, from overabundance and habitat pressure to shifting cultural attitudes and the rise of adult-onset hunting. Jen also explains NDA’s Field to Fork program, new hunter education initiatives, and groundbreaking research on the true nutritional value of wild venison. This episode provides powerful insights into how deer hunting, food culture, private lands access, and smart communication strategies are shaping the future of conservation in the U.S. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://outdoorstewards.org National Deer Association: https://deerassociation.com #hunting #deerhunting #outdoors #hunter #hunt #huntingseason #huntinglife #whatgetsyououtdoors #outdoorlife #wildlife #wildlifeconservation #conservationthroughhunting #huntingisconservation #conservationfunding #outdoorstewards #bowhunting #nature #wildlifemanagementinstitute #connectingwithconservation
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Season 3: Episode 6: Sporting clays for sick kids with Zac Lemmon, Exec. Director for Kids and Clays
Kids & Clays Executive Director Zac Lemmon joins Connecting with Conservation to share how charity sporting clays events across the country are raising millions for Ronald McDonald Houses while introducing thousands of new shooters to the outdoors. He traces the program’s growth from a single Chicagoland event in 1999 to more than 40 million dollars raised, 40+ annual shoots in over 20 states, and a waiting list of houses eager to participate. The conversation walks through a typical event day, from Egg McMuffins at registration to raffles, auctions, and “loaner gun” stations designed for first-time shooters, while explaining how corporate teams, the firearms industry, and McDonald’s owner-operators all play a role. Jon and Jim also highlight the conservation angle: every shell fired supports excise-tax funding for wildlife agencies, making Kids & Clays a win for sick kids, new participants, and fish and wildlife conservation. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute/ Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://outdoorstewards.org/ Kids & Clays: https://kidsandclays.com/ #kidsandclays #sportingclays #ronaldmcdonaldhouse #wildlifeconservation #conservationfunding #shootingsports #newshooters #outdoorindustry #clayshooting #pittmanrobertson #mcdonalds #nonprofit #fundraisingevents #corporateevents #outdoorstewards #wildlifemanagementinstitute #wildlifeconservation #outdoorstewards #shootingcommunity
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Season 3: Episode 5: Managing the Business of Conservation and Indiana's First Bobcat Season.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Amanda Wuestefeld, the Director of the Indiana DNR Division of Fish, Wildlife, and Nature Preserves. The discussion highlights the success of wildlife restoration projects for species like elk, turkeys, and deer, which are funded through Pittman-Robertson (PR) dollars and sportsman's excise taxes. Amanda provides an in-depth look at the 12-year process of establishing Indiana’s first sustainable Bobcat trapping season, explaining the balance between scientific modeling, legislative involvement, and public trust. The conversation further explores the "business" of conservation, including the management of public shooting ranges and the diverse fishing opportunities provided by Indiana's hatcheries and public access sites. The episode concludes with a focus on R3 (Recruitment, Retention, and Reactivation), with Amanda and the hosts emphasizing that modern conservation is as much about "people management" and earning public credibility as it is about managing wildlife populations. For further information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation: https://outdoorstewards.org Indiana DNR Division of Fish & Wildlife: https://www.in.gov/dnr/fish-and-wildlife #Conservation #Hunting #Fishing #Trapping #IndianaDNR #WildlifeManagement #Bobcats #OutdoorLife #R3 #PublicLands #NaturePreserves #ElkRestoration #ConnectingWithConservation #Podcast #WildlifeScience #SustainableHarvest #Angling #TargetShooting #OutdoorEducation #PittmanRobertson #WildlifeManagement #WildlifeManagementInstitute #OutdoorStewards
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Season 3: Episode 4: Trapping Myths, BMPs, and Conservation with Bryant White of AFWA.
Bryant White of the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies joins Connecting with Conservation to unpack modern trapping, Best Management Practices (BMPs), and why regulated trapping remains a critical wildlife management tool. From river otter and beaver restoration to managing human–wildlife conflicts and protecting infrastructure, he explains how agencies use trapping for conservation, public safety, and habitat health. The discussion covers AFWA’s decades-long BMP research, rising trapper numbers, the North American Trapper Education Course, and a new video series aimed at hunters and the public. The hosts and Bryant also tackle persistent myths about trapping—addressing regulation, humaneness, and the broad conservation benefits funded by hunters, anglers, trappers, and shooters. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://outdoorstewards.org Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies: https://fishwildlife.org #wildlifeconservation #trapping #furbearers #hunting #fishing #humanwildlifeconflict #wildlifemanagement #conservation #BMPs #afwa #trappereducation #furbearers #otters #beavers #coyotes #raccoons #publiclands #outdoors #huntingcommunity #conservationfunding #wildlifemanagementinstitute #outdoorstewards
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Season 3: Episode 3: Wild Sheep Conservation and the Path Forward with Corey Mason.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Corey Mason, Chief Operating Officer and Executive Vice President of Conservation at the Wild Sheep Foundation. Corey shares his extensive background—from his time at Texas Parks and Wildlife to international conservation work—while explaining the unique challenges facing wild sheep across North America and beyond. Listeners get an insider’s look at the habitat, natural history, and incredible resilience of these iconic mountain species. The conversation digs into the major threats wild sheep face today, including disease transmission, predation, habitat degradation, climate impacts, and human disturbance. Corey explains how the Wild Sheep Foundation has invested over $110 million into conservation projects, supporting agencies and partners across the U.S., Canada, Mexico, and Central Asia. From innovative disease‑management strategies to prescribed fire and water distribution improvements, this episode highlights the passion, science, and partnerships driving modern sheep conservation. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute: https:// wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https:// conservationstewards.org Wild Sheep Foundation: https:// wildsheepfoundation.org #WildSheep #SheepConservation #wildlifeconservation #mountainhunting #bighornsheep #DallSheep #StoneSheep #habitatrestoration #wildlifemanagement #DiseaseResearch #conservationfunding #WesternWildlife #outdoorstewards #BackcountryWildlife #sustainablehunting #connectingwithconservation #WildSheepFoundation #wildlifemanagementinstitute #wildlife
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Season 3: Episode 2: Elevating Indigenous Voices in Wildlife Conservation with Dr Julie Thorstenson.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Dr. Julie Thorstenson, Executive Director of the Native American Fish and Wildlife Society. Julie shares her remarkable journey from wildlife habitat restoration on the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation to leading a national organization dedicated to supporting tribal conservation efforts. Her insights reveal the complexity of managing fish, wildlife, and ecosystems across tribal lands and the importance of integrating traditional ecological knowledge into modern conservation strategies. The conversation explores pressing issues such as invasive species management, climate adaptation, and funding inequities that tribes face. Julie highlights innovative projects like beaver relocation, feral horse management, and youth education programs aimed at growing the next generation of Native conservation leaders. This episode is a powerful reminder that conservation is not just science—it’s culture, resilience, and collaboration. Tune in to learn how tribal voices are shaping the future of wildlife management in North America. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://outdoorstewards.org Native American Fish and Wildlife Society: https://nafws.org #wildlifeconservation #nativeamerican #indigenousleadership #fishandwildlife #habitatrestoration #climateadaptation #invasivespecies #BeaverRestoration #FeralHorses #conservationeducation #tribalsovereignty #TraditionalEcologicalKnowledge #outdoorstewards #wildlifemanagementinstitute #wildlifemanagement #connectingwithconservation #conservationfunding #sustainableecosystems #YouthInConservation #environmentalstewardship #IndigenousConservation
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Season 3: Episode 1: Range USA supports wildlife conservation from the urban landscape.
Dive into the business of conservation with Tom Willingham of Range USA, discussing the recent opening of their 50th indoor range, welcoming 350,000+ new shooters yearly, and how the excise tax from firearms and ammo sales helps to support wildlife conservation. Hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto explore how indoor ranges cure cabin fever while supporting wildlife, habitats, shooting opportunities, and other outdoor-related recreation. Learn how recreational shooting bolsters the billion-dollar conservation efforts, and how every round fired helps. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation: https://outdoorstewards.org Range USA: https://rangeusa.com #wildlifeconservation #rangetalking #shootingranges #excisetax #newshooters #RangeUSA #targetpractice #hunteradoption #firearmsafety #conservationfunding #indoorranges #wildlifemanagement #shootinglessons #huntingprogression #pittmanrobertson #cabinfever #gunretail #wildlifefunds #outdoorsports #wildlifemanagementinstitute #outdoorstewards
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Season 2: Episode 53: Wildlife Corridors, Migration, and Big Game Conservation with Casey Stemler.
Wildlife migration is one of the most fascinating, and urgent, challenges in modern conservation. Today we’re joined by Casey Stemler, former U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service leader and architect of the national Wildlife Corridor & Big Game Migration Initiative (Secretarial Order 3362). Casey’s background spans wildlife biology, policy development, and federal leadership, making him uniquely qualified to explain how major landscape-scale conservation happens. We discuss: Why wildlife corridors matter for elk, deer, pronghorn, and even squirrels & frogs How species movement is shaped by highways, development, and winter range loss The origin story of Secretarial Order 3362 and how it survived multiple administrations Federal-state partnerships, tribal roles, and how collaboration, not authority, drives success The growing concern for pronghorn movement and declining migratory bird populations How sportsmen, NGOs, and the public can engage in conservation policy at local, state & federal levels This is a deep dive into how policy bridges science and on-the-ground wildlife work, and why migration connectivity is one of the most impactful conservation frontiers of our time. Resources Mentioned & Places to Get Involved: Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute. Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation: https://www.outdoorstewards.org. Western Association of Fish & Wildlife Agencies: https://wafwa.org. Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation: https://congressionalsportsmen.org. Safari Club International: https://safariclub.org. #wildlifecorridors #migration #conservation #biggame #ElkMigration #pronghorn #HabitatConnectivity #conservationpodcast #fishandwildlife #SecretarialOrder3362 #wildlife #wildlifemanagement #HighwayCrossings #connectingwithconservation #wildlifemanagementinstitute #conservationfunding #fws #conservationstewards
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Season 2: Episode 52: ATA’s Fight for Fair Conservation Funding with V.P. & Chief Conservation Officer Dan Forster
Hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto interview Dan Forster, VP and Chief Conservation Officer of the Archery Trade Association (ATA), on the podcast Connecting with Conservation. They explore ATA’s evolution from a business trade show to a key player in policy and funding for wildlife efforts. Forster details his wildlife biology background and Georgia DNR leadership before joining ATA. The episode dives into excise taxes on bows, arrows, and accessories, which generate $50 million annually for state agencies—funding habitat, research, and access beyond just game species. Challenges like tax slippage on imported arrows threaten U.S. manufacturers and conservation dollars, with ATA pushing bipartisan bills to close loopholes. Discussions also cover PR Modernization Act successes, like earmarking funds for hunter recruitment (R3), and efforts to standardize archaic archery regs across states. Relevance ties directly to hunters and shooters: These taxes sustain public lands and programs you use, while ATA modernizes rules for crossbows, target archery growth, and fair competition. Attending the ATA Show offers hands-on gear testing and supports the industry fueling conservation. For More Information Wildlife Management Institute: https://wildlifemanagement.institute WMI Outdoor News Bulletin: https://wildlifemanagement.institute/outdoor-news-bulletin Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation: https://outdoorstewards.org Archery Trade Association: https://archerytrade.org #huntingpodcast #conservationfunding #ArcheryTrade #excisetax #pittmanrobertson #R3Efforts #bowhunting #targetarchery #ATA2026 #wildlifemanagement #HunterRecruitment #crossbows #ArrowSlippage #publiclands #outdoorstewards #wmi #DanForster #JonGassett #JimCurcuruto #tradeshows #wildlifemanagementinstitute #OutdoorNewsBulletin
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Season 2: Episode 51: Restoring Elk in the East—Science, Funding, and the RMEF Mission.
Elk once roamed much of the eastern United States but restoring them has taken decades of science, funding, and collaboration. In this episode, Steven Dobey, Mission Lead for the Eastern Region of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation (RMEF), joins us to explore how elk restoration has succeeded across Appalachia and the Midwest. We discuss the history of eastern elk extirpation, modern restoration efforts, and how states like Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Tennessee, Arkansas, and North Carolina are managing growing elk populations today. Steven explains how hunters, conservation organizations, and state agencies work together through habitat protection, conservation easements, public access projects, and research, often leveraging Pittman-Robertson funds alongside private donations. The conversation also dives into current challenges, including disease risk (CWD), fragmented private land ownership, wildlife corridors, and balancing human–elk coexistence in the East. This episode highlights how elk restoration benefits far more than elk, improving habitat for deer, turkeys, bears, and countless non-game species. If you’re interested in how wildlife conservation is funded and delivered on the ground, this is a must-listen episode. Learn more: Wildlife Management Institute — https://wildlifemanagement.institute Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation — https://www.stewardsofconservation.org Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation — https://www.rmef.org #ElkRestoration , #RockyMountainElkFoundation , #wildlifeconservation , #wildlife , #publicland , #habitatprotection , #pittmanrobertson , #HuntersForConservation , #elkhunting , #conservationfunding , #AppalachianWildlife , #connectingwithconservation , #RMEF , #wildlifemanagementinstitute , #outdoorstewards , #wildlifemanagement
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Maine’s Wildlife Conservation Story—from Moose to Arctic Char with Commissioner Judy Camuso
Commissioner Judy Camuso of the Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife joins us to explore one of the most wildlife-rich states in the U.S. We dive into the science, management, and on-the-ground conservation work that keeps Maine’s natural heritage thriving. From world-class target shooting programs and public shooting ranges, to ice-fishing traditions, brook trout and Arctic char research, and the nation’s longest-running black bear study, this episode highlights how conservation science shapes real results. We also discuss Maine’s adaptive moose management in the face of winter tick impacts, innovative camera-trap monitoring for furbearers, Operation Game Thief’s efforts against poaching, and a surprising new discovery—golden eagles wintering in Maine. Whether you hunt, fish, trap, shoot, watch wildlife, or simply love the outdoors, Maine has opportunities found nowhere else. If you enjoy behind-the-scenes conservation stories, give this episode a thumbs up and subscribe to get updates when new episodes drop. Learn more: Wildlife Management Institute — https://wildlifemanagement.institute Stewards of Conservation Foundation — https://www.stewardsofconservation.org New England Naturals — https://www.nenaturals.com #maine , #conservationscience , #moose , #ArcticChar , #blackbear , #HuntingCulture , #icefishing , #targetshooting , #wildlifemanagement , #outdoorrecreation , #pittmanrobertson , #fishandwildlife , #eagles , #brooktrout , #OerationGameThief , #connectingwithconservation , #wildlifemanagementinstitute #outdoorstewards
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Season 2: Episode 49: Inside Modern Trapping with Jake DeBow of New England Naturals.
Discover the essential role that regulated trapping plays in North American wildlife conservation. In this episode, Jon and Jim sit down with Jake DeBow of New England Naturals to explore how modern trapping works, why it matters, and how fur, meat, and other resources can be utilized in sustainable and ethical ways. We discuss the real science behind trapping, state wildlife agency needs, and how trappers contribute critical data to wildlife management programs.  Jake also shares how he and his wife built New England Naturals into a fast-growing fur products and education brand—combining traditional fur handling with modern outreach through social media. From innovative uses of Merino-lined beaver mittens to educational videos reaching millions, Jake explains how transparency, communication, and responsible practices can win over the “middle 80%” of the public who may not fully understand trapping.  We also dive into predator-prey balance, beaver management, sustainability, best management practices (BMPs), and why regulated trapping remains an indispensable tool for wildlife agencies. Whether you’re a trapper, hunter, angler, conservation professional, or simply curious, this episode offers a clear, fact-based look behind the scenes at a part of conservation many people rarely get to see. For more information: Wildlife Management Institute (WMI): https://wildlifemanagement.institute/ Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation: https://www.stewardsofconservation.org/ New England Naturals: https://newenglandnaturals.net/ #trapping #wildlifemanagement #Furbearers #NewEnglandNaturals #outdoorstewards #RegulatedTrapping #SustainableUse #HuntingAndTrapping #conservationpodcast #conservation #wildlife #connectingwithconservation #wildlifemanagementinstitute
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Season 2: Episode 48: West Virginia Elk Restoration, Wildlife Funding, and Conservation Leadership
Go behind the scenes of West Virginia’s wildlife management with Paul Johansen, Director of the West Virginia Division of Natural Resources and President of the Association of Fish & Wildlife Agencies. In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, we explore how elk restoration, big-game management, and healthy forests are funded and sustained through hunting and fishing license dollars, federal excise taxes, and powerful public–private partnerships. Paul shares how West Virginia successfully rebuilt an elk population in the Appalachian coalfields, modeled after Kentucky’s nationally recognized restoration program. We dive into the challenges of wildlife health, including hemorrhagic disease in deer and avian influenza in birds, and how state wildlife agencies use science-based management to protect habitat, species, and outdoor recreation opportunities. We also highlight West Virginia’s exceptional trout fisheries, public lands, bird watching opportunities, and the state’s commitment to R3—recruitment, retention, and reactivation of hunters and anglers. Whether you hunt, fish, hike, or simply enjoy getting outside, this episode explains how conservation really works and why sportsmen and women continue to be the driving force behind America’s wildlife success stories. For more information, go to: www.wvdnr.gov www.wildlifemanagement.institute www.stewardsofconservation.org #conservation #conservationpodcast #wildlifemanagement #westvirginia #ElkRestoration #HuntingHeritage #fishing #publiclands #afwa #wildlifehealth #outdoorrecreation #outdoorstewards #wildlifemanagementinstitute #connectingwithconservation
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Season 2: Episode 47: Inside Smith & Wesson – Conservation, Innovation, and Shooting Sports.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Kyle Tengwall, Vice President of Marketing and Corporate Strategy at Smith & Wesson. Kyle shares insights from more than 25 years in the shooting sports and outdoor industry, including his early days at Federal Ammunition, his time with Duck Commander at the height of Duck Dynasty, and his leadership role at one of America’s most iconic firearm manufacturers. Kyle discusses Smith & Wesson’s deep connection to conservation through the Pittman–Robertson Act, with more than $257 million in excise-tax contributions over the past five years helping fund wildlife management, public shooting ranges, hunter education, habitat access, and other on-the-ground conservation efforts. The conversation also explores S&W’s role in supporting veterans, expanding opportunities for new shooters, and the launch of the new Smith & Wesson Academy, offering training for both civilians and law enforcement. From the resurgence of lever-action rifles to responsible firearm ownership, competitive shooting, and the importance of welcoming newcomers, this episode gives listeners a behind-the-scenes look at how manufacturers and sportsmen fuel the conservation model that benefits all Americans. For more information, go to: https://www.smith-wesson.com, https://www.wildlifemanagement.institute, or https://www.outdoorstewards.org. #conservation , #SmithAndWesson , #FirearmsIndustry , #hunting , #shootingsports , #OutdoorIndustry , #pittmanrobertson , #wildlifemanagement , #leveractionrifle , #targetshooting , #gunsafety , #firearmtraining , #outdoorrecreation , #connectingwithconservation , #podcastepisode , #outdoorstewards , #wildlifemanagementinstitute
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Season 2: Episode 46: Wild Turkey Conservation and the Changing Landscape with Jason Lupardus.
This episode of “Connecting with Conservation” features an in-depth conversation with Jason Lupardus, CEO of Turkeys for Tomorrow, alongside Jon Gassett of the Wildlife Management Institute and Jim Curcuruto from Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation. The hosts and guest discuss the challenges facing wild turkey populations across the southeastern United States. Jason shares personal stories from his early days turkey hunting in Alabama and his long career in wildlife biology, illustrating why grassroots efforts matter in modern conservation. Key topics covered include regional declines in turkey productivity, the impact of habitat fragmentation, predation, and changing hunter behavior, as well as research efforts led by Turkeys for Tomorrow. Jason elaborates on the organization’s science-driven approach, how demographic shifts—more 20-30 year-old members—are shaping conservation, and the importance of active management strategies to ensure turkey populations thrive. Conversation highlights how feeding practices impact wildlife behaviors and disease transmission, making a case for more thoughtful wildlife management. Listeners learn how organizations like Turkeys for Tomorrow, the Wildlife Management Institute (https://wildlifemanagement.institute), and Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation (https://outdoorstewards.org) are collaborating to support research, habitat management, and hunter education. Jason provides actionable recommendations for both hunters and non-hunters, emphasizing simple steps such as stopping wildlife feeding and encouraging the return of traditional woodsmanship. Resources and contact information are shared, including the Turkeys for Tomorrow website (https://turkeysfortomorrow.org), which offers opportunities for volunteering, attending events, and donating in support of critical conservation research. The episode closes by reminding listeners that conservation takes broad participation and ongoing curiosity to preserve both turkeys and the hunting heritage for future generations. #TurkeyConservation , #wildlifemanagement , #outdoorstewards , #TurkeysForTomorrow , #habitatrestoration , #PrescribedFire , #conservationpodcast , #Woodsmanship , #PredatorManagement , #huntingethics , #SoutheasternWildlife , #wildlifemanagementinstitute , #wildlife , #hunting
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Season 2: Episode 45 – Building the Next Generation of Shooters with John Nelson.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett of the Wildlife Management Institute and Jim Curcuruto of the Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation sit down with John Nelson, President of the USA Clay Target League, to explore one of America’s fastest-growing high school sports — competitive clay target shooting. Nelson shares how the league began around a Minnesota kitchen table in 2007 and has since expanded to nearly 2,000 school-sponsored teams across 39 states, involving more than 55,000 student athletes. The conversation highlights the league’s unmatched safety record — over 300 million shots fired without a single reported injury — and how participation fosters discipline, teamwork, and respect for firearms while connecting young people and their families to the outdoors. Listeners will also learn how the USA Clay Target League helps drive wildlife conservation funding through excise taxes on firearms and ammunition, supports inclusive participation for all students, and partners with state agencies and shooting ranges to expand opportunities nationwide. Whether you’re a conservation professional, outdoor educator, or simply curious about the link between target shooting and conservation, this discussion offers an inspiring look at how youth shooting sports strengthen communities, build safer habits, and invest in the future of conservation. For more information on USA Clay Target League visit www.usaclaytarget.com #connectingwithconservation , #wildlifemanagementinstitute , #outdoorstewards , #USACLAYTargetLeague, #YouthShootingSports, #conservationfunding , #wildlifeconservation , #highschoolsports , #targetshooting , #firearmsafety , #pittmanrobertson , #outdooreducation
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Season 2: Episode 44: Understanding Hemorrhagic Disease in Deer with Dr. Mark Ruder
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett of the Wildlife Management Institute and Jim Curcuruto from Outdoor Stewards of Conservation sit down with Dr. Mark Ruder, Director of the Southeastern Cooperative Wildlife Disease Study (SCWDS) at the University of Georgia. They explore the science, history, and management implications of hemorrhagic disease in white-tailed deer and other wildlife. Dr. Ruder breaks down how diseases like Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease (EHD) and Bluetongue Virus are transmitted by biting midges, why outbreaks vary across regions, and how deer populations recover over time. The discussion also touches on misconceptions between EHD and Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD), the impact of outbreaks on hunters and conservation agencies, and how wildlife health research is funded through hunter and excise tax dollars. Whether you’re a biologist, hunter, or conservation enthusiast, this episode offers a fascinating look at the intersection of wildlife health, research, and conservation funding in North America. #wildlifemanagementinstitute , #outdoorstewards , #wildlifemanagement , #deerdisease, #ehd , #cwd , #conservationpodcast , #conservation #outdoorstewards , #wildlifehealth , #hunting , #hemorrhagicdisease, #SCWDS, #universityofgeorgia , #deermanagement , #wildliferecovery
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Season 2: Episode 43: Conservation in the Caribbean: Protecting Wildlife in the U.S. Virgin Islands
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, Dr. Jon Gassett of the Wildlife Management Institute and co-host Jim Curcuruto of Outdoor Stewards of Conservation travel (virtually) to the U.S. Virgin Islands to talk with Dr. Nicole Angeli, Director of the U.S. Virgin Islands Division of Fish and Wildlife. Dr. Angeli shares her remarkable path from field researcher to leading wildlife conservation efforts across the Caribbean. She discusses the challenges of managing limited land and resources, protecting migratory birds and sport fish, updating outdated hunting laws, and fostering community involvement through archery and fishing programs. Listeners will learn how the Virgin Islands’ unique ecosystems connect directly to mainland conservation priorities through programs funded by Pittman-Robertson and Dingell-Johnson excise taxes. From coral reef restoration to data-driven management and international partnerships, this episode highlights how even small island territories play a vital role in North American wildlife conservation. #connectingwithconservation , #wildlifemanagementinstitute , #outdoorstewards , #conservationpodcast , #usvirginislands , #wildlifeconservation , #sportfishing , #archery , #pittmanrobertson , #DingellJohnson, #CaribbeanWildlife, #migratorybirds, #fishandwildlife , #habitatrestoration , #wahoofishing , #tarpon , #biodiversity , #environmentalleadership , #wildlifemanagement
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Season 2: Episode 42: Boyd Duckett on Major League Fishing, Conservation & the Future of Angling.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with legendary angler Boyd Duckett, co-founder and CEO of Major League Fishing (MLF). Boyd shares how MLF is reshaping tournament fishing through innovation, conservation, and youth engagement — from high-school and college programs to real-time “catch, weigh, and release” technology that protects fish and supports better data for state fisheries. They dive deep into how fishing licenses and excise taxes fund billions for wildlife conservation, the importance of the Clean, Drain, Dry program, and the role anglers play in protecting waterways from invasive species. Boyd also gives listeners an inside look at the MLF Fisheries Management Division, cutting-edge data initiatives, and his passion for crappie fishing on Lake Guntersville. Whether you’re a lifelong angler or just conservation-curious, this conversation will leave you inspired to grab your rod — and your fishing license — and do your part for the outdoors. #Conservation #Fishing #BassFishing #MajorLeagueFishing #BoydDuckett #WildlifeConservation #OutdoorStewards #CatchWeighRelease #FisheriesManagement #CleanDrainDry #CrappieFishing #BassProTour #OutdoorPodcast #FishingPodcast #ConnectingWithConservation #WildlifeManagement #FishingForTheFuture #YouthFishing #SustainableFishing #MLF #wildlifemanagement #WildlifeManagementInstitute
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Season 2: Episode 41: Guns, Game, & Giving Back: How Benelli USA Powers Wildlife Conservation.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Jeff Sterner, a lifelong outdoorsman and the Channel Sales Manager for Benelli USA, to talk about how one of the most trusted names in firearms fuels conservation across America. From the legendary Super Black Eagle to the innovative Lupo Rifle, Jeff shares the history, technology, and reliability that make Benelli a favorite among hunters—and how their commitment extends far beyond the field. Hear how Benelli supports conservation groups through excise taxes, fundraising, donations, and partnerships, and learn why hunters, anglers, trappers, and shooters remain the primary funders of wildlife conservation in the U.S. Whether you’re a waterfowler, deer hunter, or just passionate about protecting wild places, this conversation is packed with insight, inspiration, and appreciation for the people who make conservation happen. #wildlifeconservation, #ConnectingWithConservation, #BenelliUSA, #JeffSterner, #outdoorpodcast, #hunting, #duckhunting, #turkeyhunting, #conservation, #wildlife, #shotguns, #rifles, #SuperBlackEagle, #LupoRifle, #outdoors, #habitat, #DucksUnlimited, #NWTF, #RMEF, #sportsmen, #deerhunting, #archery, #waterfowl, #wildgamemeat, #PittmanRobertson, #huntereducation, #WildlifeManagementInstitute, #StewardsofConservation
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Season 2: Episode 40: Bass conservation - Gene Gilliland, National Conservation Director for B.A.S.S
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Gene Gilliland, National Conservation Director for B.A.S.S. Gene shares his journey from fisheries biologist to leading national bass conservation efforts and explains how Bassmaster balances the excitement of tournament fishing with the responsibility of fish care and habitat protection. The conversation covers the history of B.A.S.S., the role of Bass Nation chapters, and the organization’s conservation agenda—from invasive species management and habitat restoration to improving fish handling and care during tournaments. Gene also discusses techniques like “fizzing” for deep-caught bass, proper catch-and-release practices, and the importance of educating youth through digital platforms. Whether you’re a seasoned angler, conservation professional, or someone who just loves the outdoors, this episode provides valuable insight into how fishing organizations and partners are working to protect America’s aquatic resources. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share to help us bring more conversations about conservation to a wider audience. #bass #fishing, #bassfishing, #Bassmaster, #bassconservation, #fishcare , #catchandrelease, #basstournaments, #invasivespecies, #fishhabitat, #youthfishing, #fishingaccess, #conservationpodcast, #ConnectingwithConservation, #wildlifeconservation, #fisheriesmanagement, #ethicalfishing, #sportfishing, #outdoorpodcast, #WildlifeManagementInstitute, #OutdoorStewards
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Season 2: Episode 39: From Confusion to Clarity: How Hunt Regs App is Changing the Game for Hunters
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, co-hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Ben Martin, founder of the Hunt Regs app. Ben shares his journey from a self-taught angler in Indiana and Florida to discovering the world of public-land hunting in college—and the challenges that came with navigating complex and often confusing hunting regulations. The conversation dives deep into how Hunt Regs was created to simplify the way hunters access laws and rules, ensuring compliance while enhancing outdoor opportunities. Ben explains the painstaking process of building accurate, state-by-state regulation databases, why accidental violations undermine wildlife management, and how technology can provide clarity in an often-murky landscape. A highlight of this discussion is Hunt Regs’ collaboration with state agencies to add a streamlined poaching-reporting system. Ben walks through how the tool empowers hunters and non-hunters alike to quickly and anonymously report violations, illegal dumping, and other outdoor crimes—helping game wardens get timely, high-quality information. If you’ve ever struggled to interpret a thick hunting regulation digest or wondered how technology can directly support conservation, this episode is for you. Learn how one innovative app is connecting people to the outdoors, protecting wildlife resources, and making sure that hunters and anglers can step into the field with confidence. #ConnectingWithConservation #HuntRegs #Conservation #Hunting #Fishing #WildlifeManagement #Poaching #PublicLands #OutdoorEthics #HuntingRegulations #WildlifeConservation #GameWardens #HuntingApp #OutdoorStewards #WildlifeManagement #WildlifeManagementInstitute
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Season 2: Episode 38: Blood Tracking Dogs: How Hunters and Canines Recover Game with Rachel Crume
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Rachel Crume of Kentucky Fish and Wildlife to explore the world of blood tracking with dogs. Rachel shares her personal journey into hunting and how she became a passionate advocate for game recovery using tracking dogs. The conversation covers the ethics of responsible hunting, why tracking is essential for conservation, and how dogs—ranging from bloodhounds to wire-haired dachshunds—play a crucial role in recovering wounded deer. Rachel also discusses her involvement with United Blood Trackers, training tips for hunters, and the bond between handlers and their dogs. Whether you’re an experienced hunter or just curious about the role of dogs in wildlife conservation, this episode offers valuable insights into a little-known but vital part of the hunting tradition. #deertracking, #blood, #huntingethics, #RachelCrume, #connectingwithconservation, #huntingwithdogs, #UnitedBloodTrackers, #wildlifeconservation, #archeryhunting, #bowhunting, #whitetaileddeer, #dogtraining, #conservationeducation, #ethicalhunting, #gameretrieval, #outdoorstewardsofconservation, #wildlifemanagementinstitute
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Season 2: Episode 37: Conservation Funding – Tom Decker on USFWS Office of Conservation Investment
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto talk with Tom Decker, Branch Manager at the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service Office of Conservation Investment about how excise taxes on firearms, ammunition, archery equipment, fishing gear, and motorboat fuels generate more than $1 billion annually to fund fish and wildlife conservation across the country. Tom explains how these funds drive habitat management, fish hatcheries, public access, shooting ranges, and education programs, and how partnerships with industry and state agencies sustain America’s wildlife and outdoor traditions. Tom also highlights programs like the National Hunting and Fishing Survey, trapping initiatives, and “Partner with a Payer,” which connects industry leaders with conservation professionals. This episode reveals how one of the most successful funding models in conservation history continues to support wildlife, outdoor recreation, and future generations. #ConnectingWithConservation #WildlifeConservation #FishAndWildlife #ConservationFunding #OutdoorStewards #USFWS #HuntingAndFishing #PublicLands #TrappingMatters #PartnerWithAPayer #WildlifeManagementInstitute
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Season 2: Episode 36: Dan Cabela on Hard Truths of Conservation and the Future of Wildlife.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Dan Cabela, Executive Director of the Cabela Family Foundation and host of Hard Truths of Conservation. Dan shares his journey growing up in the legendary Cabela family, the founding of the Cabela Family Foundation, and how his work has evolved into one of the most compelling conservation storytelling projects on television. Together, they explore the concept of sustainable use of wildlife, the importance of habitat protection, and the role of hunters, biologists, and communities in protecting species across the globe. From restoring bighorn sheep in Texas to translocating lions and cheetahs in Africa, Dan discusses the hard truths of conservation—why it matters, what’s at stake, and the heroes doing the work behind the scenes. Whether you’re a lifelong outdoorsman, a wildlife enthusiast, or simply curious about the future of conservation, this conversation offers a rare inside look at the challenges and triumphs of protecting wildlife in the modern world. Tags: #wildlifeconservation, #sustainableuse, #habitatprotection, #hunting, #conservation, #CabelaFamilyFoundation, #HardTruthsofConservation, #DanCabela, #bighornsheep, #lionconservation, #cheetahconservation, #wildlifescience, #ConnectingwithConservation, #sustainablehunting
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Season 2: Episode 35: Ammo, Advocacy and Access: Dan Wolgin Talks Ammo, Legislation and Conservation
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, co-hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto welcome Dan Wolgin, CEO of Ammunition Depot, for an eye-opening discussion on how legislation can directly impact conservation, the outdoor sporting community, and Second Amendment rights. Dan shares the unique origin story of Ammunition Depot—from a commodity hedge fund to a leading retailer—and unpacks how the company navigated unprecedented challenges during the COVID-19 pandemic while staying true to its customers. The conversation dives deep into California’s ammunition laws, the legal battle spearheaded by Ammunition Depot alongside major organizations like the NRA and California Rifle and Pistol Association, and the far-reaching consequences for sportsmen and recreational shooters across the country. We also spotlight Ammunition Depot’s Veterans Education Tuition Fund (VETF), a charitable initiative supporting the children of fallen soldiers with college tuition grants, and discuss how programs like First Shots are helping to grow participation in shooting sports in a safe, inclusive way. If you care about conservation, access to the outdoors, and the balance between regulation and rights, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. #Ammunition #Hunting #Conservation #AmmunitionDepot #Firearms #WildlifeConservation #ConnectingWithConservation #OutdoorStewards For more information on Ammunition Depot, visit: https://ammunitiondepot.com and https://www.ammunitiondepot.com/about-us/dan-wolgin/ Links: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8QZvUf__uo&t=267s Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0mkJEzXJ5f1PaPitMPxNbK Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/season-2-episode-35-ammo-advocacy-and-access-dan/id1772098772?i=1000722685787 Podbean: https://jgassett.podbean.com/e/season-2-episode-35-ammo-advocacy-and-access-dan-wolgin-talks-ammo-legislation-and-conservation/
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Season 2: Episode 34: Brandon Maddox: CEO of Silencer Central on silencers, myths, and conservation.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Brandon Maddox, founder and CEO of Silencer Central—the largest silencer dealer in the United States. Brandon shares his unique journey from pharmacist to leading the suppressor industry, making the purchase process simple and accessible nationwide. We bust common myths about suppressors, explore their benefits for hunting, shooting sports, and hearing protection, and discuss why they’re embraced by conservation-minded shooters around the world. Brandon also reveals how Silencer Central partners with conservation groups, donating millions in products to support wildlife habitat, public lands, and hunting heritage. Plus, hear his thoughts on upcoming legislation that could reshape suppressor ownership in America, his own hunting adventures, and the launch of new products like the Banish shotgun suppressor. If you’re curious about how suppressors work, their role in modern conservation, and the easiest way to get one delivered to your door, this episode is for you. #Suppressors #Hunting #Conservation #SilencerCentral #BanishSuppressors #Firearms #WildlifeConservation #ConnectingWithConservation #HearingProtection #OutdoorStewards #WildlifeManagementInstitute
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Season 2: Episode 33: Selling the Outdoors: Matt Whitman Conservation and Connecting with Consumers
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, we sit down with Matt Whitman, Vice President of Marketing for American Outdoor Products, to explore how outdoor brands connect with today’s consumers—and what that means for the future of conservation. Matt shares insight from years of experience leading marketing strategy for well-known outdoor gear and apparel companies, and how those brands position themselves in a crowded marketplace. We discuss the importance of authenticity in outdoor messaging, how companies navigate trends like sustainability and access, and why brand loyalty often stems from more than just product quality. From freeze-dried meals to lifestyle branding, Matt offers a behind-the-scenes look at how outdoor products are marketed—and how that marketing can support broader conservation goals.
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Season 2: Episode 32: Rethinking Conservation: Tony Wasley on Wildlife Policy and the Public Trust
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Cucaruto sit down with Tony Wasley—former Director of the Nevada Department of Wildlife and current President and CEO of the Wildlife Management Institute (WMI). The conversation dives deep into the roots and evolution of North American conservation, the challenges of outdated funding models, the need for broader public engagement, and the launch of a new initiative to define conservation’s next 50 years. Tony shares insights on his personal journey in wildlife management, the shifting role of public trust in conservation, and how modern issues like technology, habitat loss, and relevancy are shaping the future. Whether you’re a hunter, angler, policymaker, or simply passionate about the outdoors, this episode sheds light on why conservation affects us all—and what we can do to protect our natural heritage.
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Season 2: Episode 31: How Hunters Are Fighting Hunger in America with Josh Wilson of FHFH.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Cucaruto welcome Josh Wilson, Executive Director of Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry (FHFH). Josh shares the powerful story behind this national ministry—founded by his father in 1997—and its mission to connect hunters with families in need through donated wild game. From humble beginnings in Maryland to impacting over 30 states, FHFH has provided nearly 24 million meals and counting. We explore the origins of the program, its spiritual inspiration, and the surprising public health benefits of wild game like venison. Josh also discusses the logistics of meat donation, the growing need for high-quality protein in food-insecure households, and how you—whether you’re a hunter or a supporter—can get involved. 🎧 Whether you’re passionate about conservation, faith, or feeding the hungry, this is one conversation you won’t want to miss.
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Season 2: Episode 30: Fair Chase & Fighting Poaching: Inside Boone & Crockett with Tony Schoonen.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Cucaruto sit down with Tony Schoonen, CEO of the Boone and Crockett Club, America’s oldest wildlife conservation organization founded by Theodore Roosevelt. Tony takes us on a journey through the club’s storied history — from pioneering the National Forest Service and National Wildlife Refuge System to their renowned records program that showcases the success of North American conservation. We dive into critical topics like fair chase hunting ethics, the growing challenges of modern technology in the field, and Boone & Crockett’s groundbreaking “Poach & Pay” initiative aimed at tackling wildlife crime and protecting public trust resources. The discussion also shines a light on the club’s efforts to safeguard public lands from unnecessary sales and to ensure that conservation stays front and center in wildlife policy. Whether you’re a hunter, angler, wildlife enthusiast, or simply love the outdoors, this episode underscores the vital role ethical sportsmen and women play in sustaining healthy wildlife populations and habitats for generations to come.
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Season 2: Episode 29: Ruger: How America’s Largest Firearms Manufacturer Supports Conservation
Join us for this episode of Connecting with Conservation as we sit down with Todd Seyfert, President & CEO of Ruger and Marlin, to discuss how the largest firearms manufacturer in the U.S. contributes to state-based fish and wildlife conservation through excise taxes. Todd shares his personal journey from growing up hunting in Wisconsin to leading iconic American outdoor brands. We explore Ruger’s investments in youth shooting sports, environmental health, and product innovation — all of which help fund habitat restoration, public lands, and outdoor recreation for everyone. Whether you’re a hunter, angler, target shooter, or simply enjoy the outdoors, you’ll learn how manufacturers like Ruger & Marlin are critical partners in North America’s unique conservation funding model.
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Season 2: Episode 28: How Social Media is Changing Conservation with Chuck R. of Open Source Defense
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, we sit down with Chuck R, founder of Open Source Defense and a longtime tech industry leader from Google and Facebook. We explore how technology and cultural perspectives around firearms shape modern wildlife conservation funding. Chuck shares fascinating stories from taking over a thousand Silicon Valley colleagues to the range for their first experience, discusses how Open Source Defense works to demystify responsible gun ownership, and explains why most of today’s conservation funding actually comes from recreational shooting — not hunting.
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Season 2: Special Alert: Public Lands Sell Off!
Your public lands under management of the U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management are in the crosshairs of congress. Give a listen to what several conservation community leaders think about this misguided approach.
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Season 2: Episode 27: Dustin Wallace talks about Faxon's contribution to conservation.
In this episode of Connecting with Conservation, hosts Jon Gassett and Jim Curcuruto sit down with Dustin Wallace, Director of Sales & Marketing at Faxon to explore the fascinating intersection between American manufacturing, innovation, and wildlife conservation funding. Dustin shares Faxon’s journey from a machining operation to one of the most respected barrel manufacturers in the country. He discusses their commitment to quality, agility in a shifting market, and how the excise taxes on sales directly support state fish and wildlife agencies through the Pittman-Robertson Act. This episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at how companies like Faxon help sustain outdoor recreation and habitat conservation—while also creating reliable, precision-built products for sportsmen and women.
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Season 2: Episode 26: Talking High Performance Rimfires with Scott Volquartsen
Enjoy plinking or are you more of a competition type? This week on Connecting with Conservation we talk with Scott Volquartsen, the owner and innovator of high-end accessories and upgrades for your favorite rimfire calibers. Give it a listen!
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Season 2: Episode 25: Hornady's Commitment to Conservation with Seth Swerczek
Did you know that Hornady is one of the largest U.S. based manufacturer of hunting products? Today on Connecting with Conservation we talk with Hornady's Marketing Communications Manager Seth Swerczek about their commitment to wildlife conservation funded thru the federal excise tax.
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Season 2: Episode 24: Beth Shimanski, Vice President of Marketing with Savage Arms Inc.
Today on Connecting with Conservation, we talk with a major excise tax payer in the conservation arena. Beth Shimanski of Savage Arms, Inc. talks about some of the unique aspects of their business model. Give it a listen!
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Season 2: Episode 23: Executive Director Ryan Brown talks about Virginia Wildlife.
Today on Connecting with Conservation we discuss all that Virginia has to offer in the form of wildlife-associated outdoor recreation. Ryan Brown, Executive Director of the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources joins us to talk bears, elk, and other iconic Virginia species. Give it a listen!
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Season 2: Episode 22: World and National Champion USPSA Competitor Julie Golob
Today we speak with a USPSA National and World Champion competitor, veteran, coach, author, chef, and mom. Julie Golob is all of these and more. Hear her talk about her favorite outdoor pursuits that also help support wildlife conservation. Give it a listen!
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Do you enjoy angling, boating, hunting, recreational shooting or just getting outdoors and into the backcountry? Connecting with Conservation is the only podcast that delves into the business of conservation. We talk with state wildlife agency and industry experts about how conservation is achieved in the United States along with the tremendous impacts to local economies that driven by the recreational user. Join our hosts as they explore this often unknown or misunderstood aspect of how fish and wildlife conservation works in the U.S.
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