For The Love Of: Trade-offs we make in pursuit of our passions

We’re entering a new season (literally and creatively) and in true For The Love Of fashion, we’re embracing the pivot.   In this "behind the scenes" chat, we share why we’re shifting away from a regular episode cadence for now, what it actually takes to produce a podcast, and how we’re making space for new ideas in 2025.   Here's your reminder that passion projects get to evolve.   We talk about: What podcasting actually takes—time, energy, and a lot of editing How we’re honoring our own bandwidth (and friendship!) by changing course Why we’re treating this next season of the podcast as a pop-up experiment The concept of creative composting and making space for what’s next Favorite takeaways from past episodes that are guiding us through this season of change   Episodes we mention and love: Tina & Rhett Jacobi on making space for magic Graham Zimmerman on imperfect advocacy Slutashia/Samuel Thrower on holding multiple truths Marina LeGree on nuance, identity, and service John Waller on vitality and letting go Doug Beardsley on wringing the towel dry Mel Strong on money, ethics, and financial empowerment   We’re not going away! We’re just showing up a little differently for a while.    Follow or subscribe so you don’t miss a pop-up episode when it drops.   And if you’ve been impacted by this show or have a story of your own trade-offs in pursuit of passion, reach out! We’d love to hear from you.     How to connect with Jeni and Angie: Jeni on Instagram Angie on Instagram Angie’s website Angie on LinkedIn   Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify   Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

Do you find that when spring arrives, you jump into that buzzy energy too quickly and overcommit?   Same. 🙋‍♀️ In honor of slowing down our seasonal tradition AND to reflect on the past 1.5 years of this show, we want to revisit our very first episode.   Katie’s story is the ultimate pivot: from a six-figure job to bartending on an expedition ship in Antarctica, and eventually kite skiing across Greenland. But beyond the adventures, we dig into what it means to live a values-aligned life, navigate fear while chasing goals, and embrace the changing chapters of our decades.   Hear about: The trade-offs of living a "raw, wild and free" life Being a very fearful person who also faces risk Planning intentionally for a new decade of life Seasonal work vs. a 9-to-5 Begging to chicken sit   Our first episode still so deeply shares the whole point of this show: What are we willing to trade off in order to live our passions?   A couple other episodes you might love:   How a Mountaineering Accident Taught Doug Beardsley to Live Life to the Fullest: https://www.fortheloveofpod.com/episodes/dougbeardsley  Managing Expectations in a High Pressure Academic Environment with Dr. Hannah Prather: https://www.fortheloveofpod.com/episodes/hannahprather     Make sure you join our free Substack (email list) so you can let us know what you think about the show! -- 👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).

This athlete is dedicating 2025 to embracing the tradeoffs that come with a passion.   Sydney Schroder is a professional snowboarder based in South Lake Tahoe. Originally from Texas, Sydney committed to a life and career in the snowboard industry 10 years ago and hasn't looked back.   She now competes in free ride snowboarding at a high level, including the Freeride World Qualifiers while also teaching full time at Kirkwood Mountain Resort.     We talk about: How tradeoffs are Sydney’s “secret weapon” while building her dream career Going all-in on focusing work and play on snowboarding Sydney’s changing relationship with competition and how it includes collaboration The realities of competing while working a full-time job Imposter syndrome as a pro athlete and instructor What it’s like working with a sports psychologist Tips for anyone thinking about following their dreams in snowboarding   Episodes mentioned in conversation:  Erika Vikander (freeride snowboarder) Adam Bernero (mental performance coach) Barrett Christy Cummins (Olympic snowboarder)   Connect with Sydney: https://instagram.com/syd_schro  TikTok: @syd_schro Twitter/X: Sydney_Schroder   Make sure you join our free Substack (email list) so you can let us know what you think about the show! -- 👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

When an injury limits how you can perform work, art, and creativity, how do you find joy?   April Donovan, also known as the performer MC AP Real, is a rapper involved in three different musical projects as well as a formally trained artist, graphic designer, advertiser, and illustrator.    April suffered a serious traumatic brain injury in 2018 that landed her in a coma for 10 days and is still affecting how she’s able to live and express herself today.   We talk about: April’s motorcycle crash and initial injuries Constructing and reconstructing memories after a brain injury and coma What it was like moving back home after the hospital The impact a severe injury had on relationships and finances Adaptations April makes in order to pursue work and art with tough symptoms The realities of being a creative human with an invisible disability How April is sharing her life through music, writing a book, and art   Make sure you join our free Substack (email list) so you can let us know what you think about the show!   Hear from another guest who shared honestly about having a traumatic brain injury: How a Traumatic Brain Injury Led Pro Athletes Brandon Scheid and Sensi Graves to Find Gratitude and New Perspectives on Life   Connect with April: https://www.behance.net/aprildonovan   FUN NEWS! The show has led to some deep IRL conversations lately, so we want to dig into YOUR life… What are the trade-offs and pivots you’re pondering right now? Thinking about a career change? Money moves? Parenthood decisions? Send us an anonymous “letter” at www.fortheloveofpod.com/share and Jeni and Angie will give you our perspectives on a future mini-episode.   -- 👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

Access to nature is a fundamental right, and Vivianette is advocating for it in a creative way.   Vivianette Ortiz Caraballo is a proud Puerto Rican, Latina, and madre living in Western North Carolina.   With a passion for community resilience and adventure, she founded Latinos Aventureros to help others enjoy the fundamental right of access to nature. Her outdoor events and programs are a form of advocacy and community to create spaces of belonging and growth for others.      We talk about: The branding of the word “adventure” and how for many, outdoors is just part of life Why Vivi moved from Puerto Rico to North Carolina as a teen mom The shift in her relationship to nature with the move Why hiking seemed like an unlikely hobby for Vivi and how she got started Quitting a job to have more time to build an outdoor community Founding and leading Latinos Aventureros, a hiking community for Latinos and BIPOC How outdoor community is a form of advocacy What folks in the continental US should know about Puerto Rico How we can all become advocates for our most important causes   Make sure you join our free Substack (email list) so you can let us know what you think about the show!   Connect with Vivi: https://www.facebook.com/ortiz.viv/  https://www.instagram.com/vivi.la.exploradora/  http://latinosaventureros.org/   Get more inspiring thoughts on community advocacy by listening to How to be an Imperfect Advocate and Pursue Outdoor Adventures in a Changing Climate with Alpinist Graham.   FUN NEWS! ✨ The show has led to some deep IRL conversations lately, so we want to dig into YOUR life… What are the trade-offs and pivots you’re pondering right now? Thinking about a career change? Money moves? Parenthood decisions? Send us an anonymous “letter” at www.fortheloveofpod.com/share and Jeni and Angie will give you our perspectives on a future mini-episode.   AAAAND join us over on our free Substack to get episode and life updates from Jeni and Angie!   -- 👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

⛵ Can you honor security and adventure at the same time?   Tina and Rhett Jacobi are a husband and wife team living in the Columbia River Gorge. They co-founded their business, Big Water Construction, after returning from a several months long sailing trip, including an Atlantic crossing.   In the middle of the ocean, they hosted their own Zoom wedding from the boat. As artists, athletes, and entrepreneurs, they infuse passion and stoke into their everyday life.   We talk about: What it’s like to build a small business with your spouse How Tina and Rhett intentionally designed their relationship from day 1 Intense moments from sailing across the ocean on a small sailboat The transition back to life on soil and immediately buying a house Blending art, construction, business, and adventure while dealing with the realities of life stress   If you love the Jacobi vibes, listen to Rhett’s sister on the show: How Living Seasonally and Wild Entrepreneurship Led Tamara Jacobi to Run a Mexican Jungle Eco Lodge   Connect with the Jacobis: instagram.com/bigwaterconstruction  www.bigwaterconstruction.com   FUN NEWS! ✨ The show has led to some deep IRL conversations lately, so we want to dig into YOUR life… What are the trade-offs and pivots you’re pondering right now? Thinking about a career change? Money moves? Parenthood decisions? Send us an anonymous “letter” at www.fortheloveofpod.com/share and Jeni and Angie will give you our perspectives on a future mini-episode.   AAAAND join us over on our free Substack to get episode and life updates from Jeni and Angie!   -- 👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

FUN NEWS! ✨ The show has led to some deep IRL conversations lately, so we want to dig into YOUR life… What are the trade-offs and pivots you’re pondering right now? Thinking about a career change? Money moves? Parenthood decisions? Send us an anonymous “letter” (via this form), and Jeni and Angie will give you our perspectives on a future mini-episode. And now…   🎙️ Jason Russ is a lifelong musician and extreme sports enthusiast. His experiences with alcoholism and drug addiction led to the destruction of his material life and most of his relationships, as well as the near loss of his own life.   Jason's life changed forever when he fell in love with recovery and sobriety, which helped him complete a motorcycle trip across the Americas.   We talk about: Jason’s early dedication to extreme sports The onset and progression of alcoholism and addiction What addiction feels like and how it felt against his will The experience that shifted Jason’s life and led him to recovery Finding spirituality and a greater power that led to sobriety Reckoning with holding privilege while also being an addict A 2 year, 74,000-mile motorcycle trip across 17 countries Finding an energy greater than himself every day in recovery   If you like the honesty and openness of this episode, you’ll love How Pro Kitesurfer Jason Slezak Stopped Chasing Highs to Avoid His Past Trauma and Changed His Approach to Sports and Mental Health.   Connect with Jason: Jason’s website and resources: inspiredjourney.life   Jason’s sound/lighting business in the Gorge: inspiredjourneysoundproduction.com Submit your letter for us to dig into in a future episode here: www.fortheloveofpod.com/share   -- 👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

Pro athletes might look like they have ultimate freedom, but that lifestyle isn’t always what you think.   Barrett Christy Cummins began her snowboarding career in the early 1990’s as the sport was starting to gain mainstream attention. From 1993-2003, she competed at the highest level, filmed movie parts and commercials, and enjoyed the perks of sponsorship with some of the biggest brands in sports.   Barrett transitioned to roles in marketing and product development with her former sponsors after starting a family in 2004. 20 years later, she's launching into new challenges to stretch her vision and goals to new spaces.   We talk about: Creating lifestyle goals instead of professional goals Moving west and deciding to pursue snowboarding in South Lake Tahoe Getting into snowboarding before the X Games and pre-Olympic snowboarding How competing with the boys drove her to perform Competition vs. collaboration with other women in sport Expectations for female athletes: being camera-friendly and a brand ambassador Keeping the fun in your passion when your passion is work Barrett’s Olympic experience and what she wishes she did differently Getting injured and deciding to start a family instead of competing What it’s like to have a snowboarding trick named after you Working with brands to make better gear Pro snowboarding “provided far less freedom than you would imagine” Building financial literacy and being intentional with money   If you like snow sports, chatting about the Olympics, or digging into how to increase gender equity in sports, listen to Why Erika Vikander is Fighting for Gender Equality in Freeride Snowboarding and Women’s Sports.   Connect with Barrett: Instagram: instagram.com/barrettcc Website: barrettcc.com Financial services: camberwealthbuilders.com   👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

“Life is a series of trade-offs.” “Never a failure, always a lesson.” “Did you see this photo of my cat?”   We’re sharing our OWN honest reflections of the year, highlighting the top trade-offs we both made in 2024.   You’ll hear about: Reckoning with the dark side of social media: do the costs outweigh the benefits? Where do you go online without Instagram? Jeni now has something to nurture other than 1,000 houseplants. She’s a Crazy Cat Lady now! The scariness yet magic of delegating. Outsourcing is a spectrum, not a binary. What the f*ck is Jeni doing with her life? Unemployment vs. funemployment. Being a Good Times Monster vs. disciplined (or being both) Our BIG ESCAPE ROOM ANNOUNCEMENT that everyyyybody’s asking about Some big appreciations and perhaps changes to this show?   Calling all listeners! Yes, you! Could you do us one of these as a holiday gift? Pretty please with a cherry on top?   1- Send an episode you love of FTLO to a friend so we can reach new folks. 2- Tag us on your Instagram Story with a recommendation to list. 3- Let us know if you’d like more “solo” (duo?) episodes, or weekly episodes. 4- We’re looking for partners to support the show! Got a brand who’d be a great fit? 5- Send us your recs for guests! We want a more diverse range of voices.   We absolutely love you and send you the brightest vibes as we enter 2025. See ya soon!   👋Connect with us: Angie's new Substack Jeni on Instagram   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show. -For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

What does training for spending weeks deep underground teach you about the rest of life?   Katie Graham is a passionate cave and canyon explorer who discovered Canada’s deepest and second deepest caves. This feat was showcased in the 2023 documentary film “Subterranean.”   Katie is a fellow of the Royal Canadian Geographic Society and president of the Alberta Speleological Society. As a former accountant, she left her corporate gig to spend more time underground.   We talk about: Is it caving, or spelunking? The pressure of working deep underground, especially with a film crew Breaking her leg days deep in the cave and self-evacuating for 3 days Hauling tons of heavy gear for weeks just to spend minutes in a cave section The mundane monotony of training for expeditions Finding balance between celebrating milestones and the training grind The mental game of cave diving Burning out with a passion and how to add fun back into it The scary days that kick your ass are the ones that matter most Why Katie started professional accounting and why she later quit The nuance of her team being kicked out of a village on a caving trip to Mexico The effects of living underground for weeks and manipulating your own circadian rhythm Making cool cave suits!   PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love How Sunny Stroeer Transformed Her Corporate Skills to Advance Gender Equity in the Outdoors and Combining Art Forms and Identities with Drag Raptress Samuel Thrower, AKA Slutashia   Connect with Katie: Subterranean Film Katie on Instagram   👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

What does it mean to uncage your own soul and find vitality, even in challenging periods of life?   John Waller is an award-winning filmmaker, speaker, and adventurer. After founding the video production company Uncage the Soul in 2004, he dedicated his career to capturing wild and serene landscapes, as well as the stories of the people who call them home.   In 2020, John was diagnosed with stage 4 colorectal cancer. This inspired him to pursue a life filled with purpose, vitality, and a deeper appreciation for the natural spaces he has long admired.   We talk about: How award-winning Uncage the Soul productions came to life Traveling the world after college and gaining comfort in the unknown and getting a “social education” Dedicating 16 years of life to his company while wearing all the hats The decision to end Uncage the Soul towards the start of COVID-19 pandemic and trying to personally separate himself from his business Going to a doctor after 10 years and learning he has terminal cancer The emotions and shifts that come with a life-changing diagnosis and how John’s experience as a producer helped him find support Releasing an aversion to accepting help from others Using psychedelics as a way to access a deeper side of himself Learning to swim with instead of against the current of life What John is afraid of as he approaches the end of his life Mending the Line: Uncage’s film about fly-fisher Frank Moore   PSST! If you like this episode, did you know we have over 30 other conversations with people who have lived big lives and made trade-offs to pursue their passions?   We've spoken with a former Hollywood star who moved to Kentucky to open a preschool, an adventurer who lost a toe while guiding on Mount Rainier, a drag queen who found empowerment by embracing an alter ego, and a pro ice climber who continues to adventure as a mom of twins. Find all episodes at www.fortheloveofpod.com/episodes.   Explore John's work: Uncage the Soul Productions   👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

Marina Legree has an educational background in international affairs and public policy and has spent over two decades living around the world and working with international aid agencies.   In 2015, she founded the nonprofit Ascend Athletics, which redefines opportunity for women in Afghanistan and Pakistan through mountaineering based leadership training and community service.   We talk about:   Marina being assigned to work in Afghanistan starting in 2005 and the country becoming a home for her A crash course in modern politics of Afghanistan and the 2021 Taliban offensive The assumptions people made about an American woman in her 20’s living in Afghanistan (including people in the US military thinking that she was a spy) Language to examine in politics: “third world,” “expat” vs. “immigrant”, and Afghans aren’t Arabs Living with restrictions on women’s movement and outdoor time, and how that led Marina to start Ascend Athletics Working within the parameters of local culture and religion to encourage girls in the mountains Resettling 134 Afghans around the world after the Taliban returned to power in Afghanistan in 2021 (which was antithetical to Ascend’s mission but an ask of the girls in the program) Feeling more unsafe living in DC or working with the US Army than after the Taliban gained power in Afghanistan  Living in Maine and having a family while leading international work Why the world needs more women in government and international leadership   PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love Why Erika Vikander is Fighting for Gender Equality in Freeride Snowboarding and Women’s Sports and How Living Seasonally and Wild Entrepreneurship Led Tamara Jacobi to Run a Mexican Jungle Eco Lodge   Connect with Marina and Ascend Athletics: https://ascendathletics.org/ https://www.instagram.com/ascendathleticsngo   👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

When you watch epic ski films, do you ever wonder about the person behind the camera?   Bjarne Salén is an adventure documentary filmmaker, photographer and entrepreneur originally from Sweden and currently living in Hood River, OR. Over the past 15 years, he’s traveled the globe to create documentaries, short films, and photographic works.   Bjarne has directed and produced films for brands like Salomon, Oakley, Patagonia, and the North Face. In 2021, Bjarne founded Bjarne Builds, a van conversion business that has since evolved into creating tiny homes and now a new signature line. He continues to share stories from around the world through his work, including The Fifty Project ski series.   We talk about:   The evolution of Bjarne’s adventure filmmaking over the decades from stoke to story The realities of combining passions in skiing and film, when 90% of skiing is for work Being the talent vs. filming the talent, when both roles require elite athleticism The Fifty Project with Cody Townsend and why Bjarne doesn’t give a sh!t about 50 ski lines The trade-offs of working expeditions: bad weather after long travel, missing loved ones, and managing unpredictable money How Bjarne tries to turn his brain off from thinking about work and being present instead What you need to accept around time and effort if you want to be an adventure filmmaker Bjarne’s van conversion business pivots Not being able to get funding for an incredible story Bjarne’s views on using social media as a creative The climate crisis and its effects on The Fifty ski lines Risk management and facing death in the mountains   PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love Why Kayaker and Filmmaker Rush Sturges is Rethinking Work-Life Balance.   Connect with Bjarne: https://instagram.com/bjarnesalen   👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

This man has played many a serial killer on TV, but he's way more down to earth than his characters may appear.   Ryan Devlin is an entrepreneur, rock climber, rad dad, and actor best known for his roles on shows like Veronica Mars and Grey's Anatomy. In his words, he’s “just trying to fit it all in.”   He's also the host of The Struggle Climbing Show, one of the most popular rock climbing podcasts, where he explores the intersections of climbing and personal growth.    We talk about:   Why Ryan is fascinated with “the struggle” and how it shapes his popular podcast When Ryan knows it’s time to shake it up and make a pivot in life Countering failure by embracing a beginner’s mindset The arrival fallacy that so many humans face Mental vs. physical challenges of outdoor adventures (running 100 miles or sending a 5.15) The difference between being an actor and a celebrity Moving from Hollywood to Kentucky and opening a forest school Acting is listening (even if Ryan tends to play creepy murderers on TV) Ryan’s tools for keeping all the plates spinning in a packed life The One Line a Day Journal Ryan got Angie and Jeni hooked on   PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love these: How to be an Imperfect Advocate and Pursue Outdoor Adventures in a Changing Climate with Alpinist Graham Zimmerman Managing Expectations in a High Pressure Academic Environment with Dr. Hannah Prather   Connect with Ryan: https://instagram.com/thestruggleclimbingshow https://www.instagram.com/ryandevlinoutside  https://www.youtube.com/@thestruggleclimbingshow  https://www.thestruggleclimbingshow.com   👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: 1 - Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on  Apple Podcasts and on Spotify.   2 - Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   3 - Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   4 - Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

Ever get the urge to throw all your stuff in an Astrovan and leave your corporate job for good?   Sunny Stroeer is a record setting adventure athlete and entrepreneur known for her feats in extreme sports and her work in outdoor adventure media. She runs two adventure guiding services and the nonprofit Summit Scholarship Foundation.   Sunny combines her corporate career background and Harvard MBA with her current work as an athlete and storyteller to be an advocate for gender equity in the outdoors.   We talk about: Spending 5 years at Harvard after getting rejected at first Realizing that she needed far more adventure time than her corporate work could allow A 43 hour-long workday, and what burnout felt like to Sunny The changing value of time and money when you shake up your work Adulting is real. (Sad!) We have to say no to incredible opportunities sometimes. Feeling both angry at and grateful for an employer at the same time Running two guiding services and a nonprofit on top of her own adventures Reciprocity in scholarships: They’re not just for winning recipients Sexism and microaggressions on Aconcagua Balancing competition with collaboration for Fastest Known Times Body image when your body is a tool for adventure Finding harmony with her husband in a packed life The realities of athlete sponsorship and income The Iditarod Invitational: being the first woman to complete the 1,000 mile race on skis     PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love these: Why Erika Vikander is Fighting for Gender Equality in Freeride Snowboarding and Women’s Sports What Kayaking and Paddleboarding Taught Anna Levesque about Fear, Confidence, and Mental Agility The Trade-offs of Seasonal Work, Shifting Identities, and Kite Skiing Across Greenland with Katie Crafts   Connect with Sunny: Sunny on Instagram: instagram.com/sstroeer Sunny’s website: www.sunnystroeer.com  The Summit Scholarship Foundation on the web www.summitscholarship.org and on Instagram: instagram.com/summitscholarshipfoundation AWExpeditions on the web www.awexpeditions.org and on IG instagram.com/awexpeditions  Dreamland Safari Tours on the web www.dreamlandtours.net and on IG instagram.com/dreamlandsafari    👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: -Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces!   -Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   -Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

Would you take a job that has you stand in a fiery pit that’s been burning for decades in the Turkmenistan desert, rig a rope across a boiling lake, and put yourself in the middle of Tornado Alley?   George didn’t take the job– he made it, and he took his camera with him.   George Kourounis is a National Geographic Explorer, storm chaser, science communicator, and host of the Angry Planet TV series. He's been to all seven continents and over 80 countries to photograph some of Mother Nature's most elusive and dangerous phenomena.   We talk about: -The logistics of being ready to cross the world at a moment’s notice   -Funding big adventures and relying on Mother Nature to make a living   -How George broke into media and started the Angry Planet TV series   -Why George hates the words “influencer” and “content” and the impact of technology on the news cycle and media   -Identifying as a nature junkie but not an adrenaline junkie   -The Gateway to Hell expedition with a Guinness World Record of being the first person to set foot at the bottom of this burning pit of gas   -Capturing disasters that blur the line between natural and human influence   -The FOMO of missing a big storm or event and the pressure to create media for others to enjoy or learn from   -When your work is less of a job and more of a lifestyle   -A scary bat experience where George’s inner organs could’ve turned to Jello (oopsie)   -The essence of exploration in 3 words     PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love this one: How to be an Imperfect Advocate and Pursue Outdoor Adventures in a Changing Climate with Alpinist Graham Zimmerman   Connect with George: -George on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/george_kourounis -George's website: http://www.stormchaser.ca/    👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: -Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces!   -Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   -Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

Ready to be the most intriguing conversation sparker in the room?   Angie and Jeni spill their previously unshared thoughts on life purpose, gratitude for pain, imposter syndrome, alcohol, and more as we surprise each other with deep questions inspired by our guests.   It’s our celebration of 24 episodes with guests who’ve gotten honest on the trade-offs they’ve made to pursue their passions!   Hear some of our favorite recent soundbites and the questions that came up from these podcast guests:   An ice climber who became a mother which made her a better human An ex-pat who moved to the Mexican jungle to start a business A mountain bike racer who helps others become more brave An extreme sports couple who got pregnant after one of them nearly died A podcast producer who left corporate and got sober A former MLB pitcher who retired in his 20’s into his darkest days A venture capitalist who’s helping women reach financial goals A kayaker and filmmaker whose passions are work and vice versa A podcaster on a mission to protect wild Florida An athlete who discovered deep mindfulness after healing from testicular cancer A pararescueman helping normies like us be in the water with confidence and strength A drag queen who’s on her way to be the biggest and best of all time   We have some epic episodes coming up, so make sure you’re following and subscribed to For The Love Of: Trade-offs We Make in Pursuit of our Passions!   Like the show? Share the stoke!: Connect with Angie on Instagram and Jeni on Instagram. Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! Tell one friend who would like For The Love Of (send ‘em a link to this very page!). Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces!   Pretty please, subscribe, rate, and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify   Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

Everyone can feel the confidence of a drag queen on stage, but there’s more than meets the eye.   Samuel Thrower performs as Slutashia, Oregon’s drag raptress.   Samuel is a multi talented drag queen, vocalist, and rapper from Eugene, Oregon. Slutashia possesses a modern-day hip-hop aura and delivers her original rhymes with strong power and confidence. She has had the pleasure of opening up for queer artists such as God Des, Wreckno and Big Freedia.   We talk about:   -Common misconceptions about drag   -Being in both the entertainment and beauty business   -Dreaming of being a performer then having Slutashia give him the confidence to pursue music   -Looking like a cocky queen on the outside, but feeling vulnerable on the inside   -The risk of going full-time as a drag queen and working gig to gig   -How being a songwriter and rapper elevates Slutashia as a drag queen   -Growing up in California and rural Oregon as a gay Black man   -The trade-offs of money, a social life, dating, and pieces of Samuel to pursue a passion   -Sewing, makeup, vocals, choreography: there are a million skills drag queens need to grow       PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love these two: How Dancing Transformed Nika Kermani’s Mental Health After Depression Turning Life’s Challenges into Confidence through Mindful Mountain Biking   Connect with Slutashia: @Slutashia on Instagram   👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces!   Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

Picking up “The Perfect Storm” at a Blockbuster could forever change your life… Or at least it did for Matt.   Matt Schollard is a former special operations Pararescue team leader and lifelong action sport athlete.   As a water confidence coach, he is passionate about developing future special operations candidates, extreme athletes, and anyone curious about expanding their perceived limitations.   We talk about: -Pararescuemen: The people who show up to save Navy SEALs   -The Air Force Pararescueman selection course: the hardest day of your life over and over again   -Surviving Hell Week and fantasizing about quitting   -Stories of how fear is contagious– but courage is, too   -Joining the military with eyes on ocean rescue, but then 9/11 happened   -The mental health impacts of compartmentalizing fear for so long   -Upregulating and downregulating tools when experiencing post-traumatic stress   -Hanging on to the identity of a job even when he knew he needed to step away   -The big life pivot that came to Matt after bawling on a paddleboard in the ocean   -The tool of humor as a way to cope with stress   -Working with extreme athletes and non-extreme athletes around mindset and water confidence   -The incredible Water Confidence Class at the Hood River Aquatic Center   PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love these two: -Why Kayaker and Filmmaker Rush Sturges is Rethinking Work-Life Balance -How Pro Kitesurfer Jason Slezak Stopped Chasing Highs to Avoid His Past Trauma and Changed His Approach to Sports and Mental Health   Connect with Matt: -Matt on Instagram   👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces!   Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast)   Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge).   Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

Being told he might have a week to live ended up changing Adam’s life for the better. Adam Spillman, once an athlete, transitioned into a coach, mentor, and motivational speaker following a life-altering cancer diagnosis at age 30, when he was initially given just one week to live. Now, Adam helps others unlock their full potential and enhance their health and well-being, drawing from the same strategies that fueled his own recovery and transformation post-cancer. We talk about…   -At age 29, noticing health issues: mood, fatigue, and skin infections with no answers -A stage 3C testicular cancer diagnosis, and finding his body riddled with tumors, including in his arteries, kidney, and lung -A cancer with very grueling treatment that can kill you as well -The feeling of impending death -Realizing the power of mindset during chemo, transfusions, and hospital stays -Discovering the mind-breath connection and how breathwork can change thinking -The hardest part of life for cancer survivors is reintegrating into society after treatment -Finding flow in life, not just in sports -Discovering new passions like jiu jitsu, open water swimming, and foiling -A life still centered around athletic pursuits, but also helping others: coaching and mentoring on what has helped and continues to help him with his mind-body performance   PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love these two: How Getting Diagnosed with Breast Cancer Motivated Lisa Thompson to Climb the Seven Summits How a Traumatic Brain Injury Led Pro Athletes Brandon Scheid and Sensi Graves to Find Gratitude and New Perspectives on Life   Connect with Adam: -Adam on Instagram: https://instagram.com/breathworkwithadam  -Adam's website: https://adamspillman.com    👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: -Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! -Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast) -Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge). -Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

The places we don’t always think of as adventure destinations are precisely the places Mason Gravley likes to explore. Mason grew up somewhere between the swamps, orange groves, and cattle ranches of central Florida. After vagabonding throughout the western US, he’s come back to find a deep relationship with his home state. Now, Mason's Lead Adventurer for Athletic Brewing and hosts the Adventure Sports Podcast (his words). He’s also one of the raddest dads and friends out there (our words). We talk about…   -Biking from Alaska to Florida… on a shoestring budget, without knowing how to change a flat tire, and not having snow or mountain experiences! -A 10,000 mile bike ride to every National Park west of the Mississippi River -The decision to start having kids in the middle of an adventurous life -Fitting in adventure when you have multiple streams of work and a family -Lessons from over 1,000 episodes of the Adventure Sports Podcast -A life mission to protect as much of wild Florida as possible (where 100,000 acres of wild land are lost to development a year) -Paddling across alligator-filled Lake Okeechobee to raise awareness for conservation -Even if you can’t save the world, you can help your backyard -Mother Nature is Mother Nature, whether it's the Grand Canyon, the Himalaya, or a square foot of grass in your yard; nothing is more or less beautiful   Connect with Mason: -Mason on Instagram: https://instagram.com/alive_adventures and https://instagram.com/adventuresportspodcast  -The Adventure Sports Podcast: https://www.adventuresportspodcast.com/    👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: -Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! -Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast) -Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge). -Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

Kayaking waterfalls and creating epic films looks glamorous from the outside, but if there’s one thing the river’s taught Rush, it’s humility. Rush Sturges is one of the world’s most influential whitewater kayakers, a prominent action sports filmmaker, and a devoted musician. Rush has honed his filmmaking and paddling skills on location in some of the planet’s wildest places, from Pakistan to China to the Democratic Republic of Congo. In 2009, Rush founded River Roots, a media production house based in White Salmon, WA.    We talk about… -Feeling physically stronger than before, but the mental side is getting tougher -Starting filmmaking as a young teen on a kayak for the family business -Shifting from shred flicks to vulnerable stories in filmmaking -The future of filmmaking and technology: AI and social media vs. human storytelling -Juggling the workflow of feature films vs. shorts and other passion projects -Dealing with grief in the community as a kayaker -Resuscitating kayaker Gerd Serrasolses during a medical emergency while filming -Living through a massive earthquake in Nepal in 2023 and dealing with the post anxiety of a traumatic situation -Feeling addicted to both kayaking and work -Spending 3 days in silent meditation and wanting to do less more often -Second-guessing moments in Rush's unconventional career: travel infections, times of financial instability, facing death -Rush's passion for making music: his folk-americana-hip hop mix album -Rush's current film project (3 years in and counting!): Paddle Tribal Waters   Connect with Rush: -Rush on Instagram: https://instagram.com/rushsturges -River Roots Productions: https://riverroots.com/    👋Like the show? Share the stoke!: -Your 5-star ratings and reviews make a huge difference, both for the future of the show and the smiles on our faces! -Follow @for.the.love.of.podcast and tag us in a post or Story! (https://instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast) -Connect with Angie on Instagram (https://instagram.com/angvswild) and Jeni on Instagram (https://instagram.com/jenistembridge). -Right now, text one friend who would like For The Love Of.    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify   Shout-Outs: -Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins -Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

Like it or not, we live in a capitalist society– so, what can we do to benefit ourselves and the world? Mel Strong started her career as a first grade teacher and journalist. A fateful interview with her long-time running hero Joan Benoit Samuelson led to a long-shot interview for an entry level job at Nike — a process that included running twice around Nike campus with her future manager. Mel spent 17 years at Nike, working on the Running, Soccer, Women’s, Snow and Skateboarding businesses. In 2017, she started angel investing and advising early stage founders, and in 2019, Mel co-founded venture capital firm Next Ventures.   We talk about… Mel’s childhood and early career leading to a personal mission to increase access to health resources for communities that need them 17 years at Nike: the ups and the downs and the self-identity of working for the brand The wealth creation gap: Historical female disempowerment around wealth and finances Are women holding themselves back financially, or is it the system? Three things women can do in the next month to become more financially empowered “Soft skills,” “breadwinner,” “wearing the pants…” EWWW, these terms suck! Convincing Angie why she should invest and care about retirement funds Short and long term visioning and planning around wealth in order to maximize your positive impact on the world Leaving Nike and co-founding a venture capital firm When Mel realized she had to examine diversity in her investment base The trade-offs of being your own boss: when things go sideways, that’s on you– which is terrifying but wonderful   How to connect with Mel: Next Ventures (Mel's VC firm) Hood River Mountain Bike Adventures (Mel and her husband's business) YouTube video to inspire you from Mel   👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: Jeni on Instagram Angie on Instagram Angie’s website Angie on LinkedIn FTLO on Instagram    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

We want your stories! (Yes, you.) We're collecting emails and voice memos about your own tradeoffs that you’ve made around your career. Go to fortheloveofpod.com/submit to share your written or spoken story about the pivots you've made in your career, work, gigs, or jobby jobs.   This former MLB pitcher discovered that he has more meaning and impact behind the scenes of sports than when standing on the mound himself. Adam Bernero works in the field of sport psychology and is currently a mental performance coach with the Seattle Mariners of Major League Baseball. Adam started his pro career as a pitcher with the Detroit Tigers in 1999 and played in the major leagues until 2006. After leaving the big leagues due to injury, Adam was a fishing guide in Alaska for six summers among odd jobs and time for self-reflection. Now, he’s enjoying life more than ever helping other athletes fulfill their dreams.  Content note: from minute 29:20-30:55, Adam alludes to suicide ideation.   We talk about…   - Moving from college to the minor leagues to the MLB in a year - How much Adam struggled after he had to quit pitching in the MLB due to injury - From $2,000/day to $7.25/hour and having to scrape together odd jobs at 31 - Briefly considering what it would be like to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge before realizing he didn’t want to end his life - How Adam began to find happiness after depression - How Adam is “triage for the mind” for players on the Seattle Mariners - Tools Adam shares with his athletes: mindset, focus, breathwork, and mind-body connection for nervous system regulation - How Adam’s sweet spot is guiding athletes behind the scenes, rather than standing on the mound himself - The trade-offs of being on the road for sports: inconsistency in relationships, the desire to have a dog, and how summers don’t exist   PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love these two: How Dave Watson Navigates Relationships and Fatherhood as an Everest Mountain Guide How Dancing Transformed Nika Kermani's Mental Health After Depression   👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: Jeni on Instagram Angie on Instagram Angie’s website Angie on LinkedIn FTLO on Instagram    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify   Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

We want your stories! (Yes, you.) We're collecting emails and voice memos about your own tradeoffs that you’ve made around your career. Go to fortheloveofpod.com/submit to share your written or spoken story about the pivots you've made in your career, work, gigs, or jobby jobs.   Emily Holland is a podcast consultant and strategist in Boulder, CO. In a previous life, Emily was a corporate girlie, working with Fortune 500 companies as an account manager. In 2021, she left the corporate world and set out on the path of self employment, working primarily with podcasters to help build, grow, and monetize their shows.  Outside of working with creatives in the outdoor industry, she loves being outside, climbing or trail running, preferably with a great female crew and some pups.   We talk about…   - The identity crisis of leaving a full time job - Knowing that the conventional path wasn’t for her or her partner after trying to follow it - Moving from the northeast to Colorado to be closer to outdoor passions - How your income doesn’t equate to your worth (but that’s hard to not feel!) - Openness with a partner about money and financial goals, including having money dates (cute!) - Sobriety and the decision to stop drinking - The “So you’re not fun anymore?” reaction from loved ones when you stop drinking - How you can support people in your life who are considering sobriety - How self-employment is a constant experiment with ups and downs - Being your own boss through the wins and challenges   How to connect with Emily: Emily on LinkedIn Wild Poppy Creative Consulting 👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: Jeni on Instagram Angie on Instagram Angie’s website Angie on LinkedIn FTLO on Instagram    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

What if the day you faced a life-threatening sports injury was one of the best days of your life? And what does that mean for your loved ones?   Married couple Sensi Graves and Brandon Scheid are professional wind sport athletes. Sensi is a pro kiter, retreat host, founder of Sensi Graves Swim, and speaker. Brandon is a pro athlete and kite designer, as well as a survivor of a recent traumatic brain injury who’s been coming to terms with his injuries.     We talk about…   - Brandon’s November 2023 speed flying accident that could’ve killed him - Falling at 60mph, crashing into a cliff, fracturing his pelvis and back, and experiencing two brain injuries on impact - The lasting effects of one of the TBIs: judgment, criticism, anger, and lack of compassion, often towards Sensi - Sensi's experience of hearing the news that her husband might not make it - The early days of traumatic brain injury recovery: experiencing mania, frustration, and having no filter - Flying FPV drones as a direct replacement for speed flying: getting adrenaline rushes and feeling like he’s flying - Discovering 2 weeks after the accident that Sensi is pregnant - What Brandon and Sensi would tell people who are afraid of experiencing a life-changing injury or illness - How to support loved ones going through a life-changing injury or illness - Learning to let yourself be held and supported by other people - Trusting that despite all the challenges and hard work, everything is going to be okay - The more you experience the hard parts of life, the more you can experience the great parts   PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love these two: How a Mountaineering Accident Taught Doug Beardsley to Live Life to the Fullest How Pro Kitesurfer Jason Slezak Stopped Chasing Highs to Avoid His Past Trauma and Changed His Approach to Sports and Mental Health.   How to connect with Sensi and Brandon: Sensi Graves Swim Sensi on Instagram Brandon on Instagram Brandon’s FPV drone footage Sensi’s website   👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: Jeni on Instagram Angie on Instagram Angie’s website Angie on LinkedIn FTLO on Instagram    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

Sports mirror life. So how can we use sports to live our happiest, healthiest, bravest lives?   Bekah Rottenberg is the founder of Brave Endeavors, a professional mountain bike instructor, a NASM certified personal trainer, a Patagonia mountain bike Ambassador, and a former professional enduro racer. She retired from pro racing to focus on coaching and strength training through Brave Endeavors.      We talk about…   - Discovering confidence in all aspects of life through mountain biking - Finding self-confidence through what her body could do, even when academics were challenging - Breaking into pro mountain biking while balancing that with being a teacher - Not wanting to go all-in on racing since it’d sacrifice other important parts of life - Building confidence in youth girls as media poses unrealistic expectations - Sexism and microaggressions in women’s sports, on a small scale and as an industry - Changing her mind about transgender women in sports; it’s not just about testosterone - Building a multifaceted business around a passion for the bike - “The gap between expectations and reality is happiness” - Building muscle is investing in your body’s retirement bank account; you don’t have forever to build strong bones - Our minds can limit or push us, like with breaking the four minute mile - There are many elements to identity, not just being a mountain biker     How to connect with Bekah: Brave Endeavors Bekah on Instagram   👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: Jeni on Instagram Angie on Instagram Angie’s website Angie on LinkedIn FTLO on Instagram    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

What do you get when you mix a business idea with an out-of-the-box lifestyle? Wildpreneurship.   Tamara Jacobi is the author of “Wildpreneurs” and founder of the Tailwind Jungle Lodge in San Pancho, Mexico. She's lived in the jungle on the Mexican Pacific for nearly 20 years.     We talk about…   - Blending personal and professional dreams to build an unconventional business that involves moving internationally twice a year - Living and operating a business in a touristed area and leaving an impact on the community - Writing a business plan in college in Vermont, then moving to the jungle at 21 to build it - Being mindful of a "Then what?" lifestyle trap, being satisfied with "enough," and learning to say no - Choosing a small scale business model with no desire to expand - Following passion first; taking a financially nonviable idea and making it work over time - Raising children and working with a partner while moving seasonally - Hosting many visitors, but making sure they leave inspired to protect the natural world - The process to bring her book to life (through a manuscript, baby, and pandemic to now) - Creating space and flexibility through shifting roles in business with her husband     How to connect with Tamara: Wildpreneurs book Tailwind Jungle Lodge Thermal   👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: Jeni on Instagram Angie on Instagram Angie’s website Angie on LinkedIn FTLO on Instagram    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

Raising tiny humans is, for many people, the ultimate life trade-off. What happens when you’re a professional athlete, traveling the world and pushing your body, who then finds out you’re pregnant– with twins?!   Majka Burhardt (she/her) is a professional climber, social entrepreneur, author, filmmaker, mother of twins and the Founder and Executive Director of Legado, an international organization that supports indigenous communities to build healthy communities and landscapes. Majka wrote the book “More: Life on the Edge of Adventure and Motherhood,” a collection of notes, letters, and messages to her twins from pregnancy through toddlerhood.     We talk about…   - The parallels of being an athlete and pregnancy: seeing what our bodies can do, seeking new skills, embracing challenges - How motherhood affected Majka’s ice climbing skills: more gratitude and efficiency, less extreme overhanging moves - Wanting to be a high level athlete AND there for her kids, and how she juggles that duality - Body image as a mom and athlete, like gaining 70 lbs. in pregnancy after having a six pack - Communicating with your co-parent when things really suck (and not "I'll just handle it myself") - Creating a family culture of loving time outdoors - Teaching kids to be resilient, rather than just safe, since they'll encounter risks every day - Life is messier than anyone wants to admit - The urge to do it all and do it all well - Becoming passionate about parenting is badass     How to connect with Majka: Majka’s website: https://www.majkaburhardt.com/ Majka on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/majkaburhardt/ Read “More: Life on the Edge of Adventure and Motherhood”: https://www.majkaburhardt.com/more/   👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

Having produced and released 12 podcast episodes into the wild feels like a reason to celebrate.   Listen as Angie and Jeni revisit some of the thought nuggets that guests shared that they haven’t stopped thinking about.   So far on For The Love Of, we’ve spoken with…   A BFF who threw her life upside down to go to Antarctica A Mt. Everest guide who made a first ski descent on K2 A dancer who used movement to climb out of depression A kayaker who completed the "Everest of kayaking" A kitesurfer who stopped numbing out and faced his trauma A rock climber who lost a partner in an avalanche then married his friend A climate activist who teaches us to be imperfect advocates A kayaking coach who teaches women mental agility A snowboarder who fights sexism in the freeride world A teacher who lost a toe on Mt. Rainier, relearned how to walk, and pursued a life of adventure A mountaineer who left her corporate career to explore high mountains, got cancer, then climbed even higher A professor who got a PhD at the sacrifice of mental health and is in love with lichens   On this episode, Jeni and Angie listen back to some memorable moments and go a bit deeper into some of their favorite guest soundbites.   You’ll get some great dinner table discussion starters, including:   Have you ever had to release an identity around your previous badassery? What is something you don’t find risky but most people do? Would you rather have three ski trips with friends when you’re 65, or one ski trip when you’re 25? Could a 100 mile race ever feel boring after doing enough of them? Is midnight too late for an end to board game night? Or is Angie lame and old now? Why do we become more fearful as adults compared to childhood? Is the way you do one thing the way you do everything? What would you do if you were training for the Olympics and tore your ACL? Would you hide the fact that you’re peeing if you were a woman stuck in a tent with a bunch of men? Do rules make people more creative? Are you willing to do your passion for money, or would that take away from it? How can you get people who disagree with your opinions to consider your view? Can you name five plant species that live in your neighborhood?   Calling all listeners! Yes, you!   Want a chance to win a bribe-I-mean-gift in exchange for your opinions on this show?   Go to this form and submit your thoughts by 3/13 for a chance to win and have eternal FTLO gratitude! It’s a short survey about what you think of the show, room for improvement, favorite parts, etc. 👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify    Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕

Most people see lichens as the weird stuff that grows on rock. But did you know their more glamorous role as “innovations arising from collaboration”?!   Dr. Hannah Prather (she/her) is a NSF Postdoctoral Research Fellow and Visiting Assistant Professor of Biology whose research has focused on the intricate relationship among lichens, bryophytes, and host trees. Her work’s taken place around the globe– even Antarctica, where she co-led a project examining warming effects on polar bryophyte communities.     We talk about…   - Starting grad school at 30 and taking almost 7 years to get her PhD - Traveling for science, including spending months in Antarctica for grad school - Using slingshots and modified crossbows to get into tree canopies for research - Sexism from peers once you have a leadership role - Identity as a scientist, especially when you have skills people deem "soft skills" (boooo) - Working with imposter syndrome, the pressure for academic excellence and struggling with perfectionism - Feeling like you’ll have kids, then when it doesn’t line up - Moving from a student role to a peer role, and starting professorship - Scientists need empathy and relationship building skills, too - What are lichens anyway?! Prepare to be mind-blown.     How to connect with Hannah: Hannah’s postdoctoral research (video included): https://www.pdx.edu/digital-city/discovery-trees     👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

Being a woman isn’t easy, period. But being a woman who climbed the high points of all seven continents fresh after a cancer diagnosis? We’ve got a lot to learn from Lisa.   Lisa Thompson ventured into mountaineering after overhearing others’ adventures in her corporate office. She was climbing globally and had eyes on some of the world’s highest mountains when breast cancer entered the scene, shifting her priorities and mindset as she continued to climb.   Lisa empowers women in mountain exploration through philanthropic climbs and through her coaching at Alpine Athletics. Her fantastic memoir, Finding Elevation: Fear and Courage on the World’s Most Deadly Mountain illustrates how she became the woman she is.     We talk about…   - Starting mountaineering in her late 30’s after not having an athletic background and wanting to prove to others that she was capable - The journey of a breast cancer diagnosis at 42 years old, which she now views as a positive impact on her life - Shaking up her life quickly: diagnosis, a divorce, pets’ deaths, and selling almost everything she owned to focus on climbing - How mountains and cancer taught her boundaries, values and how to listen to her body - A double mastectomy and going to climb Manaslu in Nepal months later, then deciding to climb Everest, and eventually all Seven Summits - Becoming the second American woman to stand atop K2 (and what it means to be second) - Currently focusing on all-women’s expeditions all over the world, and hiring Nepalese women who have lost their partners while raising money for girls’ education in Nepal - Being a woman on a male-dominated team on Everest: inconveniences, expectations, and standing up for herself turning into no longer hiding her femininity or putting up with sexist jokes - Problematic words society uses: “conquering” mountains, “battling” cancer - Lisa’s process for studying and preparing for a new climb and how different mountains have different personalities     How to connect with Lisa: Lisa on IG: https://www.instagram.com/lisaclimbs Lisa’s website: https://lisaclimbs.com Lisa’s memoir, Finding Elevation: https://findingelevation.com/ Train with Lisa: https://alpineathletics.net     👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

After losing a toe in a mountaineering incident, Doug vowed to never let that stop him from living the adventures and seeking the awe he craved.   Doug Beardsley has a background in pediatric neuroscience and as a public school science teacher. He’s filled his life with adventure, from velodrome racing to alpine guiding and from the first known solo completion of the High Sierra Route to crossing the USA and Canada by motorbike.    Many of his experiences were alone and in places where mistakes had real consequences. Doug’s taken the lessons from loss and success and has interweaved them into the parallel parts of his life like fatherhood, teaching, and being a good husband.     We talk about…   - Losing his big toe to frostbite on a Rainier climb where one client perished - Having to relearn how to walk after amputation and healing his feet - Promising his dad to never use his injury as an excuse not to do something - Being a competitive velodrome cyclist, when training was all-encompassing - Completing the High Sierra Route (a technical, remote route with climbing and scrambling) and being the first person to do it solo - Doug’s wet towel theory: every drip of water wrung out of the towel is a life experience, and he welcomes them all and intentionally wrings drips out - The thirst to experience everything in life so that when he dies, his towel will be bone dry - Finding a zone of disequilibrium in order to grow: the knife edge of pushing yourself without danger - Being vs. doing and the confusion of it all - Getting an RV for his family: his 20 year old self would scoff, but now his family gets out often - Experiencing a school shooting where two of his students died     How to connect with Doug: Doug’s feature length documentary about the solo Sierra High Route project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpwLFh6Vhkg&t=11s https://www.instagram.com/ninelittlepiggies      👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

Women have made huge strides in sports to work towards equality, but there’s still far to go.   As one of the most accomplished competitive snowboarders in the world, Erika “The Viking” Vikander has spent the better part of her life chasing snow and podiums all over the globe.    Over the years, she became disappointed to see the lack of gender equality and care for athletes on one of the most prestigious freeride tours.   Erika took it upon herself to take a stand for women everywhere by calling out some big players and asking for systemic change.   We talk about…   - At age 12, deciding to become a pro snowboarder and vowing to do anything to make it happen - Training with the Sochi Olympics in mind, then tearing her ACL at a qualifying event - Shifting “being the best” from winning medals to feeling fulfilled and like she gives her all - Deciding to pivot her snowboarding discipline from slopestyle to freeride - Spending 6 years competing on the Freeride World Tour  - Experiencing discrimination, unsafe conditions, and inequality as a female athlete - Sharing her experiences publicly then dealing with the repercussions of speaking up - The concept of being “camera-ready” as a female athlete - Going beyond “pink it and shrink it” in women’s gear - A call for systemic change in all parts of athletics, from offering equal spots to social media exposure and from big companies to small schools - Erika’s upcoming film, “Be Happy,” focusing on the struggles underrepresented athletes face and exploring steps toward equality         How to connect with Erika: Website: https://www.erikathevikingvikander.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/erikathevikingvikander      👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

After over 30 years of devotion to whitewater kayaking, what can one learn about life from the river?   Anna Levesque is a mental agility and white water kayak coach who is passionate about empowering her clients with courage and confidence through her company, Mind Body Paddle.   Anna is the author of the book Yoga for Paddling, was named one of the most inspirational paddlers alive by Canoe and Kayak magazine, and is a World Freestyle Kayak Champion medalist.    We talk about…   - Aging when you’ve loved a sport for 30 years, and feeling healthier at almost 50 than she did in her 20s - Misogyny in her first paddle sports job and being nicknamed “Kitchen Wench” - Pushback after putting out the first instructional DVD for women in kayaking in 2004 - The need for both rivers and humans to have discipline and boundaries in order to experience full flow - Developing strategies to combat negative internal dialogue - Being self-aware of when your ego is making decisions for you - Celebrating all small steps as a win, even swimming while kayaking - Working towards making kayaking more inclusive - The changing language around adventure sports and how language can become more inclusive - Being willing to put what you have at stake in order to make the sport more inclusive - When people assume that since work is “fun,” you don’t need to make much money - Being unapologetic around your prices as a business owner because you know the value         How to connect with Anna: Website: https://annalevesque.com/ IG: https://instagram.com/annaclevesque FB: https://www.facebook.com/anna.levesque2 Mind Body Paddle FB: https://www.facebook.com/mindbodypaddle1 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-lXljm9C8cJmUbLDo-Jaow LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-levesque-86149216/  TikTok: @annamindbodypaddle     👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

When talking about huge, scary topics like climate, it's easy to get all doom 'n' gloom. But nothing is ever black and white. Graham Zimmerman is an award-winning professional alpinist who's climbed across Alaska, Patagonia, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, and all over the lower 48 and Canada. He holds leadership roles in a range of nonprofits and outdoor companies, including the American Alpine Club and Protect Our Winters and uses climbing as a medium for bigger conversations. In his 2023 book, "A Fine Line: Searching for Balance Among Mountains", Graham grapples with how to reconcile the love of outdoor adventure with the cost of such endeavors, both human and environmental.  Having faced grief and personal loss in the mountains, as well as witnessing firsthand the effects of climate change on these beloved places, Graham joins us to share about the balance of pursuing alpinism with social responsibility above all.   We talk about…   - The trade-offs of alpinism: losing people you love, loneliness, marriage pressures - Seeing dramatic changes in the alpine that affect not only the environment, but the communities who live there. - Behind the scenes of writing his book, “A Fine Line: Searching for Balance Among Mountains” - Becoming an “imperfect advocate” in the face of the climate crisis: You don’t have to give up travel or your needs. - Systemic change as a top priority to fight the climate crisis - Using stories instead of straight-up facts to drive action - How outdoor athletes are already primed to take climate action and how we can all make positive change in what we’re already doing - A dual love story of climbing and Graham’s wife, Shannon: How to balance a strong relationship when he feels like a “shitty husband” while on expeditions - Realizing that being a whole person who is present in relationships makes him a better climber, when the message he got when young was that you can only focus on climbing and climbing alone - Juggling being an athlete, advocate, filmmaker, volunteer, husband, and more (the multi-hyphenate life) - Being intentional with limited time: glass balls vs. rubber balls           How to connect with Graham: Book, A Fine Line: https://www.mountaineers.org/books/books/a-fine-line-searching-for-balance-among-mountains https://www.instagram.com/grahamzimmerman/ https://www.grahamzimmerman.com/      👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕    

When your sport is closely linked to your relationships, how can you find your own path and feel fulfilled on your own? We chat with a rock climber, writer, and mother who’s been through decades of ups and downs, from losing a partner in an avalanche to ending an unhealthy marriage and from putting herself in death-defying outdoor situations to building a new relationship with risk. Jan Redford is the author of “End of the Rope: Mountains, Marriage & Motherhood.” She lives in Squamish, B.C. with her husband and their 95 lb. pandemic pup, Juno, not far from her two adult kids. Jan now spends her time mountain biking, trail running, skiing, hiking, and occasionally climbing and is working on her next book, “Who Shall I Be Today?”, a prequel to her first memoir.   We talk about… - Getting messages as a girl to “contain yourself” and “be more ladylike,” but that felt impossible - Diving into a 3.5 month NOLS course as a crash course in mountain life, including skiing with little experience while carrying a pack over half her weight - When Jan’s boyfriend Dan and roommate Ian died in an avalanche on Mt. Foraker - “Death is an aphrodisiac”: Turning to another man after the loss, then one year later being pregnant and married - Relationships in sport, unhealthy marriage, and the Cinderella Complex - Latching onto the dream of university to get her through her current life - Seeing friends push themselves and take off in their climbing careers while she didn’t have time herself - Finding new ways to face fear and push self to keep adventuring through her 80’s and beyond - Death wishes vs. life wishes     How to connect with Jan: https://www.janredford.com https://www.instagram.com/janredford61/  https://www.facebook.com/EndoftheRopeMemoir/     👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

A passion can add so much happiness to your life, but it can also be a way to run from trauma. We get to hear what that looks like from a pro athlete who’s experienced the highs in lows on the water, in relationships, and in his own mind. Jason Slezak is a professional kitesurfer and Patagonia Kitesurf Ambassador who has a 25 year (and counting) career and passion in kitesurfing.  He finds his sport to be an outlet for personal discovery, a unique way to explore the world, and a tool to work through trauma and hardships throughout his life. Outside of board sports, Jason loves developing and testing products for Patagonia while guiding groups and coaching individual kitesurfers in remote and unique locations around the globe including Fiji, Hawaii, the Marshall Islands, both coasts of the United States, and Mexico.   We talk about… - Jason’s evolution of kiting: from hobby to passion to pro - Dopamine cycles: spending all day finding fulfillment on kiting trips, then having to come home to “normal” life and feel the adventure blues, then filling the void with more stimulation right away - Kiting hangovers: flooding your brain with stimulation and sensation on the water, just to have it disappear when you get home - Using sports to run from trauma and not taking breaks to avoid processing hard feelings - Trauma that Jason experienced, then his turning point: the 2020 pandemic forcing him to not go anywhere, and the trauma catching up to him one day - Discovering healthier coping mechanisms: sitting with hard feelings, EMDR, and simple tools to move through the hard stuff - Dating as a pro athlete and the recurring cycle of breakups, then consciously breaking the toxic cycle - Supporting a healthy marriage when both partners travel separately for work - Ever-evolving roles an athlete can take in their career, even with aging and pain - Bettering your skill set through mind-body tools and to stay healthier, happier, and safer for longer periods of life - The hidden mental side of action sports: hiding struggles, fear of losing sponsorship, and over-curated media that shows only the positive aspects         Thank you to Stu Gibson (@stugibson on IG) for providing photos and videos around this episode!   How to connect with Jason: https://www.instagram.com/jasonslezak/ https://www.facebook.com/jasonslezak/ Patagonia Ambassador: https://www.patagonia.com/ambassadors/surfing/jason-slezak.html       👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕  

Home to rapids with names like “The Hole that Ate Chicago”, the Stikine River Canyon in British Columbia is a Class V boater’s paradise. It’s packed with three days of big volume, remote whitewater, with no ways to leave until you make it through the staggering canyon. We get to dive into the mind of someone who recently paddled it all. Julian Stocker is a Swiss whitewater kayaker with 22 years of experience who calls Norway home. He’s paddled through many of the world’s most exhilarating whitewater rivers, including in Nepal, New Zealand, Canada, the USA, Chile, Ecuador, Kenya, Uganda, South Sudan, and countless countries across Europe. In Julian’s eyes, kayaking isn't just a sport; it's a way of embracing life to the fullest and finding solace and inspiration in the untamed beauty of rivers.   We talk about... - How paddling helped Julian cope with childhood struggles - Paddling in places where wildlife can drown and eat you - The Stikine River Canyon: the Everest of kayaking - Selecting a solid paddling partner - Mourning loss in the kayaking community - How paddling helps Julian deal with everyday stress in life - Opting to feel and vocalize fear and its positive aspects - Accessing the flow zone and kayaking as meditation - Considering mortality and getting stuck in fun vs. scary holes - Trading off relationships with others when getting caught up in paddling - Building a toolbox to become a well-rounded athlete - Competing and not comparing yourself to medal winners, only to yourself - Forgoing sponsorship opportunities and why - Work that becomes your life vs. work that isn’t your passion (but which fuels it) - Giving back in legacy sports     How to connect with Julian: The River Guide to Voss: https://vosselveklubb.no/voss-guide/ (free eBook for anyone interested in paddling rivers around Voss, Norway)     👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/      ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify     Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕

From booty-shaking to crying in the dish pit, we’re welcoming the breadth of human emotions with Nika Kermani of NK STUDIOS! Nika is an artist, dance and yoga instructor, and the creative visionary behind NK STUDIOS, a repurposed autobody shop turned dance studio catering to movement, dance, art & community in Bingen, WA. Nika lights up any room she walks into as she stunningly fuses music, movement and community. But you can’t have the ups without the downs, as Nika eloquently shares today. We talk about… Growing up with Persian culture and Bahá'í faith Moving to Israel, meeting a man and getting engaged soon after Infidelity, a cancer diagnosis and a death all occurring in one week The first time dancing after years sparking the start of recovery Body image as a dancer Entrepreneurship in a small town Your work doesn’t have to be your passion Programs at NK STUDIOS: dance, yoga, community classes like pole dancing, online classes   How to connect with Nika: IG: https://www.instagram.com/nika.kermani  BIZ: https://www.instagram.com/nkstudiosbingen TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@nika.kermani?lang=en WEB: https://www.nkstudiosbingen.com/   👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: https://www.instagram.com/angvswild https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge https://www.itsangiemarie.com/ https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/    ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify  Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.   Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/ For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com 💕

There are some stellar photos of the alpine facets of Dave’s life: a handful of Everest summits, two decades of ski patrol, the first ski descent of the Bottleneck Couloir on K2… But, more than anything else, Dave is a rad dad. After growing up in Connecticut and learning to ski at age 9, Dave found himself drawn to the mysterious call of the Himalaya. Since his scrappier start, he’s built a career in the mountains and forged deep relationships that fuel him to share extraordinary places with others. Of course, a high-altitude life can come with high trade-offs.   We talk about… Knowing your current work isn’t sustainable for a whole life Going to the Himalaya for the first time with 2 months' notice Ways that Everest tourism may change in the near future The physical demands of seasonal mountain work Talking about risk and sport with kids When your work is difficult for your loved ones and not seeing them for months at a time Getting caught in an avalanche on Mt. Hood and what he thought about when sliding in the avalanche Death: it’s coming for everyone, and it’s easiest for the person going How to connect with Dave: https://www.instagram.com/luckydavewatson/ Dave’s avalanche courses: https://mountainsavvy.com/ Dave’s guiding work: https://www.furtenbachadventures.com/en/   👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: instagram.com/jenistembridge instagram.com/angvswild itsangiemarie.com linkedin.com/in/angie-marie  ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify  Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show. www.fortheloveofpod.com 💕   

At age 29, Katie pulled a classic career move: throw your desk upside down, leave your stable 6-figure recruiting job, and go work in Antarctica. You know… as we do. 🤷‍♀️ What started as a bartending gig in Antarctica quickly grew into a multi-year career as a Polar Expedition Guide: lecturing aboard the National Geographic ships in Antarctica, leading 10-day wilderness trips in East Greenland, and educating guests about polar bears in the Canadian Arctic. 🐻‍❄️ Five years later, she rebooted back in Oregon, capping off that chapter with an epic kite skiing feat across Greenland – a swan song to an incredible life era. We talk about... Being in her 20's and wanting to commit to a lifetime of adventure, and later exploring how to balance adventure and stability The feeling that "there's something bigger for me" and when to know it's time for a life pivot Deciding to kite ski across Greenland without knowing how to kite ski(!) Missing her Grammie's funeral to continue her Greenland expedition The ego around having a badass life vs. being "just me" Being a very fearful person who embraces adventure and challenge Risk management frameworks to use not just in the outdoors, but in everyday life decisions Instagram-photo travel vs. experiencing your own home deeply Living a life based around the seasons and finding the beauty in every season of nature and life How to connect with Katie: instagram.com/katiecrafts instagram.com/careertransformationlab linkedin.com/in/katiecrafts thekcapproach.com   👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie: instagram.com/jenistembridge instagram.com/angvswild itsangiemarie.com linkedin.com/in/angie-marie   ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of: On Apple Podcasts On Spotify   Shout-Outs: Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show. www.fortheloveofpod.com 💕