Get to B-School

Today’s guest is Anthony Palomba, a professor at the Darden School of Business who challenges his students with a simple but powerful idea: be undeniable to yourself. In this episode, we get into the real questions around business school. Why go, why not go, and how to think about the decision honestly. Anthony makes it clear that while there are great reasons to pursue an MBA, it is also an expensive roll of the dice. What matters most is what you do with the opportunity once you are there. We talk about showing up with intention, going to class ready to engage, and being willing to fail in pursuit of something bigger. Failure is a major theme throughout this conversation, and Anthony shares openly about how many times he has fallen short on the way to meaningful success. Anthony brings both academic and real-world credibility to the conversation. Beyond teaching at Darden, he has built an impressive career across media, marketing, and consulting, working with major brands and helping organizations think more creatively about growth and strategy. In this episode, we cover: Why you should and should not go to business school How to think about the MBA as a bet on yourself What it really means to “be undeniable to yourself” Why failure is a necessary part of achieving meaningful success How to maximize your time in business school This is a thoughtful and honest conversation for anyone considering an MBA or trying to get more out of the experience once they are there. Leland resources: Leland Coach search: https://www.joinleland.com/search/school/mba/traditional-full-time-mba?via=67a30d Free MBA events: https://www.joinleland.com/school/mba/events?via=67a30d Enjoy the episode! 🎧  

In this episode, I sit down with Paul Clancy, an MD-MBA student at the University of Virginia who is also the founder of Admissions Academy. Paul is one of the most structured and driven people you will meet, and this conversation is packed with practical insight on what real productivity actually looks like. We talk about building systems that help you move the needle, not just stay busy. Paul breaks down how to identify the work that truly matters and avoid the sneaky “productive distractions” that pull you off course, like cleaning the house when you should be studying or tackling low-impact tasks that feel good but don’t move you forward. His perspective on structure, discipline, and intentional focus is incredibly practical for anyone balancing big goals. If you want thoughtful strategies for getting more done and staying aligned with what actually matters, this is a great episode to tune into. Learn more and connect: Admissions Academy MBA content: https://AdmissionsAcademy.MBA Admissions Academy: https://admissionsacademy.org Leland resources: Leland Coach search: https://www.joinleland.com/search/school/mba/traditional-full-time-mba?via=67a30d Free MBA events: https://www.joinleland.com/school/mba/events?via=67a30d Enjoy the episode! 🎧

Today’s guest is Matt LoLordo, an Evening and Weekend MBA student at Kellogg, and someone who brings a refreshingly practical perspective on how to make the most of business school without burning out. I’m joined by Doug Michalak as a co-host for this conversation, which made for a fun and dynamic discussion. Matt shares how he thinks about getting involved at Kellogg in an efficient, intentional way so that school adds energy rather than draining it. He reflects on his background in the food industry, why it was a great foundation for business school, and where he’s intentionally using the MBA to fill in gaps and broaden his toolkit. In this episode, we cover: 🔹 How to get involved in b school without overcommitting 🔹 Choosing activities that compound learning rather than create stress 🔹 Using an MBA to strategically fill gaps from your pre MBA career 🔹 What the Evening and Weekend experience at Kellogg is really like If you’re trying to balance work, school, and life, or wondering how to engage deeply without doing everything, this episode is a great listen. Helpful resources mentioned: 🔗 Leland MBA page: https://www.joinleland.com/search/school/mba/traditional-full-time-mba?via=67a30d 🔗 Leland free MBA events: https://www.joinleland.com/school/mba/events?via=67a30d This one is especially relevant for anyone navigating a part time or evening MBA and trying to do it sustainably.

Today’s guest is Hunter Wortmann, whose path to business school is anything but typical. Before pursuing her MBA, Hunter spent five years working with marine animals, training dolphins, orcas, and more. After that chapter, she made the bold move to enroll at Bond University, where she has found a close knit academic experience (with small class sizes of just 9 to 12 students!). In this episode, Hunter shares: 🔹 What it was like working hands-on with marine animals for years 🔹 Why she chose Bond University and how small class sizes changed her learning experience 🔹 Her love of adventure and solo travel, including backpacking through Europe 🔹 How Bond supports entrepreneurs through mentorship and individualized guidance Hunter’s story is a great reminder that there is no single “right” path to business school and that sometimes the most unconventional journeys lead to the clearest direction. If you’re exploring MBA programs, here are a couple helpful resources: 🔗 Explore MBA programs on Leland: https://www.joinleland.com/search/school/mba/traditional-full-time-mba?via=67a30d 🔗 Join free MBA events and info sessions: https://www.joinleland.com/school/mba/events?via=67a30d Whether you are early in your MBA journey or actively applying, this episode is full of perspective on choosing a program that truly fits your life and goals.

Today’s guest is Skyler Almquist, a Kellogg MBA who has spent the last few years exploring entrepreneurship through acquisition. In this episode, Skyler shares: How and why he moved from banking to PE and then into the search fund and ETA world What he wishes he had known before committing to an MBA and before jumping into a search fund The tradeoffs between traditional finance paths and entrepreneurship His experience in Kellogg’s Zell Fellows Program and the huge benefits What aspiring founders and operators should seriously consider before taking the leap This is an honest, practical conversation for anyone thinking about business school, private equity, ETA, or entrepreneurship and trying to decide not just what sounds impressive, but what actually fits the life they want to build.

Today’s guest is my good friend, Oscar Kersey, a career switcher who made a bold call after being accepted to top law schools. Instead of following the expected path, Oscar realized he did not actually want to be a lawyer and pivoted toward business school. In this episode, Oscar shares: Why he chose to walk away from law school offers and pursue an MBA instead His framework for approaching life and work as a consumer, a critic, or a contributor and why he intentionally strives to be a contributor What made NYU Stern the right fit for him, from the energy and opportunities of New York City to the school’s deeply collaborative student culture This conversation is a great listen for anyone questioning an “obvious” next step, considering a major pivot, or trying to choose a program that truly fits who they are and how they want to show up.

Today’s guest is Carolyn Schafer, a Kellogg MBA student with a deep background in global health and public service. Before Kellogg, Carolyn earned a Master’s in Public Health and worked across Burkina Faso, Malawi, and Sierra Leone on global health and youth mental health research, including projects with former child soldiers and their families. After several international roles were cut short by forces outside her control, she made a strategic pivot to domestic healthcare, joining Northwestern’s Feinberg School of Medicine and quickly rising to lead research operations. In this episode, Carolyn shares why she chose Kellogg to add a business lens to her public health career, what it’s like returning to school as a working professional, and how she navigates leadership, identity, and advocacy in the part-time MBA program. We also discuss: 🔹 Blending social impact with business thinking 🔹 Lessons from global and domestic healthcare systems 🔹 Her goal to lead a major health-focused NGO 🔹 Why she encourages others to take a chance on themselves A thoughtful conversation for anyone interested in healthcare, social impact, or purpose-driven leadership.

Today’s episode features Campbell McGavin, a dual–degree engineer turned MBA candidate who chose Chicago Booth over Kellogg, and is very glad he did. Campbell earned two bachelor’s degrees in mechanical engineering and computer science, and he’s now using that technical foundation as he recruits for consulting. At Booth, he’s fully embracing the social side of the MBA experience while diving into the academic and career opportunities that drew him there. In this episode, Campbell shares: 🔹 Why he chose Booth over Kellogg and why he’s so grateful for that decision 🔹 How his engineering and CS background shaped his path to business school 🔹 Why Booth’s next-level diversity has been the highlight of his experience 🔹 How he balances coursework, recruiting, and making the most of the social scene Campbell’s story is thoughtful, grounded, and full of great insights for anyone exploring Chicago MBA programs, navigating recruiting, or coming from a technical background. Tune in for a great conversation! 🎧

Today’s guest is Benedict Ashiedu, a proud Nigerian and newly minted graduate of Duke’s Fuqua School of Business. His MBA journey is a masterclass in clarity, resilience, and proving fit. Benedict applied to several programs, but Fuqua was his clear first choice. When he was placed on the waitlist, he didn’t sit back. He doubled down. In this episode, he shares how he fought his way off the waitlist by demonstrating a meaningful, authentic connection between himself and Fuqua and showing the admissions committee exactly why he belonged there. He also walks through how he secured a Bain & Company internship (and later a full-time offer) before stepping foot on campus, and how that early win shaped the rest of his MBA experience. In this episode, Benedict shares: 🔹 How he made Duke his top choice and proved that fit to the adcom 🔹 What he did on the waitlist to move from “maybe” to “yes” 🔹 How he landed a Bain internship and full-time offer before school even started 🔹 His perspective on the Fuqua community and what made it the right home 🔹 The power of staying intentional, even when the process gets tough It’s an inspiring story of belief, preparation, and persistence — and a great roadmap for anyone navigating the waitlist or aiming for a top consulting outcome. Tune in and enjoy!

Today’s guest is Craig Wortmann, a beloved professor, master storyteller, and the driving force behind Kellogg’s growing Sales Institute. After earning his MBA from Kellogg and spending years teaching at Chicago Booth, Craig returned to Kellogg with a mission: to elevate sales education and help students learn to sell themselves and their ideas with clarity and confidence (all while running his company, Sales Engine). Craig’s course, Selling Yourself and Your Ideas, has become one of the most impactful classes many students take during their MBA. At the heart of his teaching are three pillars he believes underpin all professional excellence: 🔹 Knowledge 🔹 Skill 🔹 Discipline In this conversation, Craig shares how these three elements work together to create powerful communicators, resilient leaders, and people who consistently deliver results. We also touch on one of Craig’s own stories of resilience, which he discusses in depth on Kellogg’s The Insightful Leader podcast. If you want more of his wisdom, check out that episode here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-stay-resilient-in-the-face-of-a-major-setback/id294932425?i=1000712080440 Whether you’re trying to build confidence, become a better communicator, or simply learn from one of the most energetic educators in the MBA world, this episode is packed with insight. Let’s dive in. 🎙️

Today’s guest is Scott Peterson, a Wharton MBA candidate whose story blends global focus, personal discipline, and a deep sense of responsibility toward the future. Scott is part of Wharton’s Lauder Institute, where he’s preparing to work at the intersection of global economics and post-war reconstruction, specifically in the context of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. His academic path is purposeful, thoughtful, and grounded in a desire to contribute meaningfully when the time comes. In our conversation, Scott shares: 🔹 How the Lauder program is shaping his understanding of post-war economic opportunity 🔹 What it looks like to balance Wharton’s social life with being present for family 🔹 Why he believes in “taking an insurance policy” on yourself by doing everything you can to chase your biggest ambitions 🔹 How he keeps long-term purpose front-and-center amid the intensity of business school Scott’s perspective is grounded, globally minded, and deeply aspirational. I’m excited for you to hear this one.

Today’s guest is Sarah Qiang, a Kellogg MBA student whose journey is a masterclass in adaptability, drive, and keeping perspective when life throws a curveball. Sarah started in Kellogg’s Evening & Weekend program, but after “life happened,” including unexpected visa challenges at work, she made the bold move to transition into the full-time program. In our conversation, Sarah shares: 🎮 Her experience interning at Amazon’s video game division (despite not being a gamer) 💪 How she stays healthy, motivated, and grounded through the intensity of recruiting 🎯 Her best advice for navigating career pivots and embracing change mid-program Sarah’s story is a great reminder that success isn’t about sticking to the original plan, but about staying resilient, open, and ready to make the most of every opportunity.

Today’s guest is Shawn Butler, MBA Marketing Director at BYU Marriott School of Business. Shawn’s story is one of resilience, purpose, and perspective. After losing his job at Home Depot, he built and sold a successful sports agency company, but when the buyout came, he felt a pull toward something bigger. That calling led him to BYU, where he now helps future MBAs chart their own paths. In our conversation, Shawn shares: 🎯 Why how you make a million dollars matters more than making a million dollars 💡 The importance of focusing on who you’re becoming as you pursue success 🌎 His experience earning his MBA at Georgia State and raising a family in the South 🏔️ What ultimately drew him to leave his comfort zone and serve at BYU This episode is a great reminder that career milestones are only part of the story—the real win is becoming the kind of person you want to be along the way.

Today’s guests are Pamela (MBA @ Columbia) and Laura (MBA @ Ross), the co-founders of MBA Pathfinders - a coaching team dedicated to helping applicants not just get into business school but thrive beyond it. After discovering a shared passion for coaching and helping people achieve their dreams, Pamela and Laura built a practice focused on clarity, goals, and long-term growth. In this episode, they share: 🎯 Why goal setting, both short term and long term, should go beyond simply “getting in” 💬 How to choose the right coach and what criteria really matter when you evaluate options 💡 Smart ways to invest in coaching and how to use money wisely when coaching can be expensive ❤️ Why aligning your ambitions with your values makes a real difference in outcomes Whether you are in the thick of applications or just starting to consider business school, this conversation offers practical, grounded advice for finding your path and the right people to help you on it. Links mentioned in the episode: • MBA Pathfinders — https://www.mbapathfinders.com/blog • Behind The MBA — https://www.behindthemba.com/ • Leland+ sign up — https://start.joinleland.com/campus-race?utm_source=amb-northwestern-drexler-tanner&utm_campaign=leland_plus_student

Today’s guest is Sam Olmsted, whose story blends heart, humor, and a whole lot of wisdom. We talk about his time living in New Orleans and how the city left a lasting mark on how he sees the world. He also introduces us to his three-legged cat and his dog, Tom, and shares about some of the awesome client events he’s helped organize, including a Cubs event (RIP to the Cubs season). At the core of this episode is Sam’s perspective on culture and self-awareness. He talks about the importance of truly listening, especially to those who aren’t fighting to be heard, and the power of regularly checking in with yourself to make sure you’re still on the path you want to be on. It’s thoughtful, funny, and full of reminders about what it means to be intentional in how we live and lead.

Today’s guest is Allie Kronthal, one of Leland’s top MBA coaches who has helped more than 200 applicants gain admission to top programs across the M7. Allie completed a dual-degree program at Harvard and Wharton, and she brings that same depth of insight to her coaching. Her unique approach which she calls “b-school therapy” (or “excavating”) focuses on uncovering what truly drives each applicant. In this episode, Allie shares: 🔹 How she helps candidates dig deep to find their authentic story 🔹 Why understanding your motivations is the foundation of a standout application 🔹 What she’s learned from coaching hundreds of successful admits 🔹 How vulnerability and clarity can transform your essays, interviews, and outcomes If you’re applying to business school, this one’s a masterclass in turning self-reflection into strategic storytelling. Book Allie here: https://www.joinleland.com/coach/allie-kronthal/mba Join Leland+ here: https://start.joinleland.com/campus-race?utm_source=amb-northwestern-drexler-tanner&utm_campaign=leland_plus_student

Today’s guest is Andrew Park, a Yale Executive MBA candidate whose career spans chicken, fashion, and a whole lot of frequent flyer miles. When he’s not in class, Andrew is running one of the most successful Chick-fil-A locations in Southern California and building his own luxury men’s fashion brand, Urbane and Gallant (link below). Every other week, he flies cross-country from Los Angeles to New Haven for class, sometimes adding a stop in Paris to lay the groundwork for Fashion Week.   In this episode, Andrew shares: 🔹 How he juggles the demands of running a restaurant, building a fashion brand, and pursuing an MBA 🔹 Why he takes a people-first approach to every venture he’s involved in 🔹 The unique perspective he brings to Yale SOM’s Executive MBA program Andrew’s story is a reminder that business is never just about profit- it’s about people, vision, and balance. Urbane & Gallant website: https://urbanegallant.com/ Urbane & Gallant on Instagram: UrbaneGallant Great article featuring UG: https://gurusmagazine.com/fashion-meets-fame-mary-bonnet-co-hosts-urbane-gallants-star-studded-collection-launch-in-los-angeles/

Today’s guest is Eric Lucrezia, a certified MBA admissions consultant based in Paris who has been coaching candidates for over 20 years. Eric has worked with applicants targeting everything from M7 programs in the U.S. to top schools across Europe, giving him a truly global perspective on the admissions landscape. In this episode, Eric shares: 🔹 How to use AI tools effectively in applications — and why it’s more than just an ethical question 🔹 Why the debate around “is the MBA worth it” keeps coming back in cycles 🔹 His perspective on the true long-term value of the MBA 🔹 Lessons from two decades of guiding candidates into the world’s best programs If you’re thinking about business school, this episode is packed with insights from one of the most experienced voices in admissions coaching today. Find MBA Waves here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBzOhXtDD6mJUtCabEMgO9A Book Eric here: https://www.candidate.coach/

Today’s guest is James Holm, my good friend and former startup teammate back in our college days. James never thought he’d pursue an MBA, until a series of experiences and conversations shifted his perspective. What started as a “wouldn’t it be crazy if…” chat with his wife quickly turned into two MBA applications in just a week and a half. The result? Admission to both programs he applied to. Now thriving at UCLA Anderson, James shares: 🔹 Why he changed his mind about business school 🔹 How he pulled off a whirlwind application sprint and came out successful 🔹 What he’s learned from being surrounded by so many diverse personalities at Anderson 🔹 How he balances the demanding rigor of family, work, and school James’s story is equal parts surprising, inspiring, and practical- a reminder that sometimes the best opportunities come when you least expect them.

Today’s guest is Ben Lazaroff, one of Leland’s top MBA coaches and a Stanford GSB graduate. Ben’s career has been anything but linear, from working at McKinsey helping prisons improve rehabilitation outcomes, to diving into politics, to supporting chess startups, his experiences are as diverse as they are fascinating. After struggling through the MBA application process himself, Ben became driven to help candidates craft powerful, authentic applications that truly reflect who they are. In this episode, Ben shares: 🔹 How his varied career shaped his perspective on business school and beyond 🔹 Why storytelling is the key to a standout MBA application 🔹 How he helps candidates align their applications with their unique strengths and passions If you’re navigating the MBA application process, Ben’s insights will help you focus on what truly matters and make your story shine. Find Ben at Leland: https://www.joinleland.com/coach/ben-lazaroff

Today’s guest is Petar Nestorovic, a recent Tuck graduate whose MBA journey is as inspiring as it is personal. Originally from Peru, Petar shares how his time at Tuck deepened his connection to his home country, even while studying thousands of miles away. In this episode, Petar talks about: 🔹 How conversations with Tuck alumni convinced him the school was the perfect fit 🔹 Why authenticity and commitment were central to his application strategy 🔹 What made Tuck’s tight-knit community such a transformative experience (did someone say free Uber rides??) 🔹 How his MBA helped him strengthen both his personal and professional identity If you’re considering Tuck — or just want to hear a thoughtful take on staying true to yourself during the MBA journey — this episode is packed with insight.

Today’s guest is Oren Margolis, a Stern graduate and seasoned admissions consultant. Having read thousands of essays during his time with the Stern's admissions team, Oren knows exactly what schools are really looking for — and what applicants often stress about unnecessarily. In this episode, Oren shares: 🔹 How he helps candidates demystify the MBA application process 🔹 Why he’s refreshingly un-cynical about the current state of MBA admissions 🔹 The importance of getting out of your own way when telling your story 🔹 His perspective from reading thousands of applications and coaching candidates for years If you’ve ever wondered what admissions committees actually care about, and how to focus your energy where it matters most, this one is packed with insight. Book a chat with Oren here: https://calendly.com/pinetree-palm Oren's website: https://www.pinetreepalm.com/

Today’s episode of Get to B-School is a first. We’re bringing on an admissions coach! Our guest, Yash Gupta (book him on Leland here!), has sat on both sides of the process. He was accepted to both Harvard and Stanford through the 2+2 program, ultimately choosing Stanford GSB, where he had an incredible experience. Now, alongside his career in sports, media, and entertainment VC, Yash helps aspiring candidates put their best foot forward. His coaching style is all about tailoring the process to each individual, with a special focus on helping applicants stay genuine and true to themselves in their essays and interviews. In this episode, we talk about: 🔹 Yash’s journey from 2+2 admits to his time at Stanford GSB 🔹 Why authenticity is the most important part of a successful application 🔹 The strategies he uses to help candidates stand out in a crowded pool If you’re thinking about business school, this episode is packed with insights from someone who knows the admissions process inside and out.

Today’s guest, Doug Michalak, is proving that you really can thrive in multiple arenas at once. While pursuing the evening/weekend MBA program at Kellogg, Doug is also building a successful career in sports media at NBC, and loving the challenge of juggling it all. In our conversation, Doug shares how he finds energy in balancing multiple responsibilities, why he makes it a point to meet with professors one-on-one, and how those personal connections have shaped his MBA experience. We also talk about his belief that spending time with the people who matter most isn’t a distraction from great work; it’s fuel for it. Doug’s story is an inspiring look at what it means to live a full, connected, and high-performing life.

Welcome to Get to B-School! Today’s guest, Tanner Johnston, just graduated from MIT Sloan, the school he set his sights on all the way back in second grade. His teacher, Mrs. Finch, took his dream of becoming an "inventor" seriously and introduced him to top engineers, and they told him that if he wanted to be great, he should aim for MIT. That early guidance stuck, and years later, Tanner made it happen. But Tanner’s story is about much more than admissions success. In this episode, he shares: 🔹 Why he prioritized life enrichment, choosing time with friends over extra hours of studying 🔹 How he made the most of his MBA experience by investing in Level Four friendships (yes, he’ll explain what that means) 🔹 His belief in pursuing goals from intrinsic motivation, doing what you're uniquely great at and love doing, rather than copying someone else’s definition of success Tanner’s approach is thoughtful, human, and a powerful reminder that business school is as much about relationships and self-discovery as it is about the resume. Let’s dive in! 🎓💡👥

Today’s guest, Karan Buch, took a different path to graduate business education—one that many people overlook. Instead of pursuing a traditional MBA, Karan enrolled in the Masters in Management program at London Business School. Fresh off an engineering degree and eager to pivot, Karan didn’t want to wait the typical two or more years required for an MBA. In this episode, he shares why the MiM, often called a “mini-MBA,” was the right move for him. We talk about: 🔹 Why he chose the MiM route over a traditional MBA 🔹 The pros and cons of both programs 🔹 His take on the difference between technical degrees and business training 🔹 How he made the most of a short but powerful year at LBS Karan’s perspective is thoughtful, practical, and full of energy—just like the MiM program itself. Let’s jump in! 🎓🌍📈

Today’s guest, Rakhi Jain, just graduated from INSEAD, and her story is full of bold pivots, global experiences, and meaningful trade-offs. Rakhi began her career in engineering, but her MBA journey took her across three continents, through a transfer program at Kellogg, and ultimately into a new role in management consulting at BCG. In this episode, Rakhi shares: 🔹 How she transitioned from engineering into consulting 🔹 What it was like to study across Europe, Asia, and North America 🔹 Why she chose to skip the traditional internship to support her family during a health emergency, and how that decision still led to her dream job 🔹 How she recharges through her love for national parks and the outdoors Rakhi’s story is proof that there’s no single "right way" to do business school. Sometimes the most meaningful decisions are the ones that prioritize people and purpose. Leland GMAT Week (FREE): https://lu.ma/gmatkickoff Let’s dive in! 🌍📚🌲

Cameron Greenwalt is headed to the 2-year MBA program at Kellogg, and his story blends technical depth, focused intention, and just a touch of vanilla. (Literally) Cameron applied to seven schools before landing on Kellogg, and in this episode, he shares how he approached the application process with the same mindset he brings to the rest of his life: true authenticity beats performative imitation. We talk about: 🔹 Why he believes juggling too much at once leads to mediocrity 🔹 Why being true to himself was essential during applications 🔹 How he’s preparing to make the most of the MBA experience 🔹 And yes, his side venture: an artisan vanilla business Cameron’s story is thoughtful, grounded, and a great reminder that focus goes a long way. 20% PROMO CODE for AmbrosiaVanilla.com: GETTOBSCHOOL Leland GMAT Week (FREE): https://lu.ma/gmatkickoff Let’s get into it! 🎓🌱📦

Today’s episode is about keeping your eyes on the big picture—whether that means summiting Mount Everest or making it to business school. Our guest, Andrew Katz, recently stood on top of the world—literally. After years of working toward his MBA, he took time away from work to pursue a personal dream: climbing Everest. And in two months in the mountains, he gained more perspective, growth, and clarity than any project at work could have offered. In this episode, we talk about: 🔹 What it was like to summit Everest—and how the view shifts your perspective 🔹 Conversations about MBA programs at 26,000 feet with fellow climbers 🔹 How focusing on long-term goals helped him navigate career and personal decisions 🔹 Why the lessons from the mountain apply just as much to life and leadership as they do to altitude Andrew’s story is an incredible reminder that stepping away can sometimes be the most powerful move you make. Let’s get into it! 🏔️🎓

Today’s guest, Simon Wild, just graduated from INSEAD (studying mostly in the France campus) after 10 all-too-short months. After years of building a career in advanced analytics and AI at a Big Four firm, Simon began exploring a pivot into consulting. When the traditional route didn’t open up, he set his sights on business school—but not without hesitation. He wondered: Am I too late? Am I too old to go back to school? Spoiler: He wasn’t. In this episode, Simon shares: 🔹 How an engineering apprenticeship led to advanced work in analytics 🔹 The doubts he had about returning to school—and why he pushed through 🔹 Why INSEAD was the right fit for his global mindset 🔹 How he took full advantage of the European experience—from travel to deep reflection 🔹 The quiet magic of stress-relieving walks in the forest next to campus 🔹 And his excitement to start at McKinsey this fall Simon’s story is a reminder that it’s never too late to pivot, grow, and go after the next big thing. Let’s get into it! 🎓🌍🌲

Today’s guest, Magdala Díaz de Rávago, just graduated from Tuck, and her story is full of grit, creativity, and heart. Originally from Peru, Magdala built a custom cake business—and while she still bakes on the side for friends, she’s now heading into consulting at Bain. Her road to B-school wasn’t easy: 8 GMAT attempts, a pivot to the GRE, and even delaying her application by a year. But it all worked out—she found her people, and she brought her now-husband along for the ride (he’s graduating too!). We talk about: 🎯 Her transition from bakery owner to Bain consultant 🧘 Running wellness retreats to support classmates 💪 Staying motivated through a tough admissions journey Magdala’s story is a reminder that persistence, community, and a little sweetness can go a long way. Let’s dive in! 🎓🍰

Today’s guest, Kevin Colton, is currently at Stanford GSB—but the path he took to get there is anything but typical. After spending much of his twenties abroad in Japan, China, and Germany, Kevin faced a challenging transition out of military life. The shift wasn’t easy, but through consistent effort, self-awareness, and a strong community, he’s found his footing—and says he’s now “the happiest he’s ever been.” In this episode, Kevin shares: 🔹 The emotional challenges of transitioning out of the military 🔹 How he makes decisions by watching the people he respects most 🔹 What drew him to Stanford GSB and how the experience has shaped him 🔹 And—because everyone needs an outlet—how he finds joy tickling the ivories at the local jazz piano scene (yes, really) 🎹 Kevin’s story is full of depth, wisdom, and resilience. Let’s get into it! 🎓🎷

Today’s episode is a mix of intense fun and intense hustle. Our guest, Connor Crandall, just graduated from Wharton, and his story is a masterclass in perseverance, focus, and chasing adventure along the way. Connor spent nearly five years preparing for the MBA journey—starting back in undergrad and grinding through multiple admissions tests (he switched from the GMAT to the GRE midstream). And once he got to Wharton, he didn’t slow down. In this episode, we dive into: 🔹 His 14-week sprint to pivot from megafund to mid-market private equity—there was no shortage of weekend work 🔹 How he balanced hardcore career goals with epic travel, including snowboarding in Japan, surfing in El Salvador, and biking in Spain 🔹 The mindset it took to stay locked in for years while still keeping life joyful and full of movement Connor’s journey is a perfect example of what it looks like to work hard, play hard, and live intentionally.

Today’s episode is filled with intention, insight, and a whole lot of gratitude. From teaching high school math in Boston to pivoting into consulting at Bain in Chicago, William Adams' path was guided by purpose—and supported by a strong circle of family, friends, and mentors. In this episode, we talk about: 🔹 Applying to six different MBA programs, each for a specific, intentional reason 🔹 Making the leap from education to consulting, and what that transition looked like 🔹 The life-shaping power of great professors—and why Kellogg exceeded his expectations 🔹 What it feels like to say: “I accomplished exactly what I set out to do.” This conversation is grounded, honest, and filled with the kind of perspective that reminds you what the MBA journey is really all about. Let’s get into it! 🙏🎓

Today’s guest, Matthew Dumas, has worn a lot of hats—Marine, auditor, consultant, director of finance—and now, he’s at UCLA Anderson taking his next big step. In this episode, we talk about: 🔹 His journey from the military to finance and analytics (including our time together at Deloitte’s M&A analytics team) 🔹 How he’s balancing a full-time role as a Director of Finance while in a full-time MBA program 🔹 Teaching himself to code and building a product for a startup from scratch 🔹 What he's gaining from diving into the MBA experience headfirst Matthew’s story is one of grit, reinvention, and serious initiative. Whether you're coming from a nontraditional background or just trying to make the most of the MBA path, this episode is full of real talk and great insight. Let’s get into it! 🚀

Today's guest is John Koelliker, CEO and Co-Founder of Leland—the go-to platform for the B-school community. In this conversation, John shares the story behind founding Leland, and how it wasn’t just a business idea—it was a lightning bolt, a “I HAVE to do this” moment. He also opens up about the most powerful lessons from his time at Stanford GSB, and why the MBA journey should be about more than just getting in. We dive into: 🔹 The origin story of Leland and the mission behind it 🔹 What John took away from his own B-school experience 🔹 How to broaden your scope and think bigger than just B-school If you’re in the middle of applications, weighing your options, or just feeling stuck in the “what’s next” phase, this one’s full of perspective, purpose, and inspiration. Let’s get into it! 🚀

Ep 16's guest, Jake Greenberg, brings some of the most unique perspectives we’ve had on the pod. (Btw, there are ice cream analogies, and yes, they work.) Jake’s journey is driven by curiosity, humility, and a deep desire to make a difference. In this episode, we dig into: 📚 A technical step-by-step breakdown of how he transitioned from a JD program into a JD-MBA 🍨 Why he wants to be the dumbest person in the room—and how that mindset has fueled his growth 🧠 His passion for working on problems so complex, only a handful of people in the world are tackling them 💼 How a hyper-growth startup taught him that lawyers often hold the ultimate seat at the table 🌍 His post-MBA plan to help marginalized individuals launch their own businesses—and why he feels a duty to give back Jake’s story is thoughtful, ambitious, and full of heart. You're going to love this one. Jake's LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobkgreenberg/

Today’s guest, Saleh Dadkhahipour, knows firsthand that getting into a top MBA program isn’t just about telling your story—it’s about making sure the admissions committee understands it. In this episode, Saleh shares: 🔹 How he had to educate schools on the prestige of studying at Iran’s top university and working at a leading consulting firm abroad 🔹 Why your MBA application is like a limited piece of real estate—and how to use every inch wisely 🔹 How to translate your experiences into relatable stories (think: "I worked at the Uber of Iran" or "the SpaceX of my region") 🔹 The energy and drive he feels being surrounded by an accomplished, inspiring MBA class Saleh’s journey is a masterclass in strategic storytelling, resilience, and making your unique background impossible to ignore. And if you want even more great insights into the MBA journey, be sure to check out Saleh’s content at MBA.Odyssey on YouTube and Instagram!

Today’s guest, Misha Putnam, is currently pursuing her MBA at Wharton, but don’t let the classroom setting fool you—her business school journey has taken her to some of the most remote places on Earth. In this episode, Misha shares: 🔹 How she led a 48-person expedition in Antarctica as part of Wharton’s leadership venture program (yes, glaciers, camping, the works) 🔹 The emotional complexity of sharing this once-in-a-lifetime experience with a partner who’s grinding away at a full-time job 🔹 Why “touching grass” is essential—and how escaping the MBA bubble helps her stay grounded in life beyond school Misha brings honesty, adventure, and insight into what it means to build a full, dynamic MBA experience—while also acknowledging the tradeoffs that come with it. Let’s dive in! ❄️🎒

🎙️ Welcome to Get to B-School! Today’s guest is someone who’s charting his path by one principle: being led by curiosity. Kip Winterton, a first-year MBA at Chicago Booth, has a background that’s as well-rounded as it is unexpected—he studied finance, sang opera, and played rugby in undergrad. Now, he’s focused on real estate and exploring opportunities that combine scale, strategy, and creativity. In this episode, Kip shares: 🔹 His pivot from a deeply personal dream of HBS—and how getting to Booth on scholarship helped restore his confidence 🔹 Why he’s looking toward big project private equity—and how he might create his own real estate ETA opportunity 🔹 How curiosity—not prestige—has guided his biggest academic, career, and life decisions If you're navigating disappointment, career pivots, or figuring out how to chase big ambitions while staying true to yourself, this conversation is packed with insight and inspiration. Let’s get to it! 🚀

The podcast gurus have spoken: It is apparently UNWISE to release episodes on Fridays (who knew?! I LOVE podcasts on Fridays. I mean what about The All In podcast? Can't I be cool like them?) We have a great episode ready to push on Monday, so for now, please accept this tiny, fun, glimpse into the life of yours truly. For today, Sarah comes on and runs the show and shares some of her own experience being part of an MBA family.

🎙️ Welcome to Get to B-School! This week, Zach Harris (my dear friend and amazing next-door neighbor) talks us through his experience at Kellogg. Through our chat, Zach shares about: 🔹 How he converted two waitlist spots into offers... and ended up at a third school instead. 🔹 How he's approaching his pivot away from consulting into big tech. Does he go big tech or startup? 🔹 How he's ensuring that he's not getting caught in any waves that he isn't intentionally selecting Zach shows us how simple the choice can be to go to b-school. He encourages all of us to ask what we want to do, instead of solely focusing on what we should do. Let’s get into it! 🚀

How do you build a career that actually gives you energy? Coleman Clyde made that his top priority—and it meant turning down multiple high-paying offers in pursuit of something he truly loves. In this episode, Coleman dives into: 🔹 Why he targeted Columbia and the benefits of a New York City MBA 🔹The importance of following what excites you—because if you’re faking passion, it’ll drain you 🔹 Why being authentic isn’t just good for your well-being, but also the key to long-term success  Coleman’s story is a reminder that chasing the “right” job on paper isn’t always the right move. If you’re figuring out your own career path, this conversation is for you. Let’s get into it! 🚀

🎙️ Welcome to Get to B-School! Some people spend years planning their MBA. Spencer Holmgren? Not so much. One day, business school wasn’t even on his radar—then his wife challenged him to think bigger, and just like that, he was all in. Now, as he wraps up his time at Darden, Spencer reflects on the whirlwind decision that changed his career path for the better. In this episode, we dive into: 🔹 How he went from “not applying” to business school to fully committed—practically overnight 🔹 Realizing his career wasn’t as fulfilling as he thought and what he did about it 🔹 How he financed his MBA through scholarships and smart budgeting 🔹 The fun and quirky traditions at Darden—yes, including the House Cup Spencer’s story is proof that big decisions don’t always require years of planning—sometimes, they just require the right nudge. If you’re considering an MBA but aren’t sure if it’s the right move, this episode is for you. Let’s get to it! 🚀

Today’s guest, John Kreider, took the long road to business school—three application cycles, five GMAT attempts (and two GRE), and countless hours of self-reflection. But it wasn’t until he stopped trying to be the "perfect applicant" and started being his true self that Stanford GSB finally said yes. John’s story is one of resilience, authenticity, and trusting the process. In this episode, we dive into: 🔹 Applying three times—what changed between attempts and what finally worked 🔹 Taking the admit tests 7 times—and surviving the grind 🔹 How growing up in the backwoods of Alaska shaped his journey 🔹 His career pivot from Bain & Co. to a small private equity shop—and why he loved it John’s path proves that getting into business school isn’t about being perfect—it’s about being real. If you’ve ever struggled with applications, questioned whether you belong, or wondered what it really takes to break into top MBA programs, this episode is for you. Let’s get to it! 🚀

Today’s guest, Matthew Spurrier, took an unconventional road to business school—starting as a premed student, pivoting into consulting at Bain, and eventually deciding that an MBA was the next step. But beyond just the academics, Matt came to Kellogg with a clear goal: to dive deep into search funds and entrepreneurship through acquisition (ETA). In this episode, we cover: 🔹 How Matt went from premed to business school—and why he never took an econ class 🔹 His journey into consulting and what made him decide to pursue an MBA 🔹 Why he’s so passionate about search funds and how he’s been getting hands-on experience at Kellogg 🔹 The reality of business school as a family man—and how he balances priorities We also talk learning business fundamentals the hard way, getting involved in ETA, and how to be intentional when exploring new career paths. If you’re curious about search funds, career pivots, or making the most of an MBA, this one’s for you. Let’s get to it! 🚀

🎙️ Welcome to Get to B-School! Today’s episode is all about fighting for your spot, staying focused, and making an MBA about more than just career growth. Our guest, Landon Eyre, didn’t just get into business school—he fought his way in, turning a waitlist spot at Duke Fuqua into an acceptance through sheer persistence, strategic networking, and a deep understanding of what schools really look for. But for Landon, getting in was just the beginning. In this episode, we dive into: 🔹 How he turned a waitlist into an acceptance (and what most applicants get wrong) 🔹 Why life enrichment—not just career advancement—was his real reason for an MBA 🔹 The hidden challenge of business school: Scope creep (and how to stay focused when everyone around you is chasing consulting & banking) 🔹 Why internships are often harder to land than full-time jobs Landon shares hard-won lessons on persistence, decision-making, and making the MBA experience truly worthwhile. If you’re navigating applications, debating whether an MBA is right for you, or struggling to stay focused on what you actually want—this episode is for you. Let’s get to it! 🚀

Today, we’re talking MBA journeys, sports careers, and... overrated barbecue? Yep, our guest, Jake Perry, has some hot takes—including why Texas brisket isn’t all that. But beyond his food opinions, Jake’s story is all about determination, strategy, and carving out a unique career path. In this episode, we cover: 🏀 Applying twice to B-school and why he kept pushing forward 🎯 His plan to break into sports business (and why there’s no clear roadmap) 📊 How consulting, statistics, and a lifelong love of sports shaped his career ambitions 🔥 Why he’s cold-emailing his way into the industry—and getting answers fast Plus, we talk about GMAT nightmares, the magic of the Kellogg network, and why student email addresses are a secret weapon. You don’t want to miss this one!

Today’s guest has a name straight out of an action movie—Jackson Steele—and a background just as cool. Jackson went from studying astronomy and physics to working as a software engineer at Amazon, where he helped automate drone operations. Now, he’s at Kellogg, navigating business school with a unique perspective on career pivots, entrepreneurship, and making tough decisions when things don’t go as planned. In this episode, we dive into: 🚀 His unexpected path from astrophysics to tech 📉 The heartbreak of not getting into his dream school (and how he bounced back) 🎯 What really matters when choosing an MBA program 💡 His plans to break into product management and entrepreneurship Plus, we talk cold showers, Kellogg's bidding system, and why Chicago winters are brutal ❄️. You won’t want to miss this one!

What’s it like going through business school as a married couple? Tyler and Alex Muir join Get to B-School to share their experience of applying together, navigating Kellogg as individuals, and balancing careers, recruiting, and social life—all while keeping things fun. Alex and Tyler break down why they chose the MBA, how they made their applications stand out, and why sometimes, a business degree is less about the numbers and more about the intangibles. They also share pivot plans: Tyler from private equity to healthcare tech and Alex from startup exec to venture capital. A must-listen for anyone thinking about B-school, career transitions, or applying with a partner! 🎧🔥