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In Between Sundays
by Tony Johnson and Maggie Freeman
Have you ever felt like it’s easier to have faith on Sunday morning than on Monday? In Between Sundays is a podcast here to help you follow Jesus in your ordinary everyday life.
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We've Been Mom Friends for 8 Years & Across 3 States
If motherhood feels lonely, you're not making it up and you're not theonly one. In this Mother's Day episode, host Maggie Freeman sits down withthe three women who have been her closest friends for the last eight years:Debbie, Jenny, and Bethany. They live in three different states. They'vemostly never been in the same room. This is a real conversation about what it actually looks like to find momfriends who show up. They talk through what they've learned across everystage of motherhood (from grandmothering down to elementary school), thespecific ways diversity in age and season has made them better moms, andthe moment Maggie texted the group when the police pulled into her frontyard. They name the two enemies of every mother — isolation and futility —and offer practical, hard-won advice for any Christian mom who is tired,overwhelmed, or quietly wondering where her people are.If you've ever thought "I just need someone who gets it" this one's foryou. Pass it to a friend who needs the same.
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Why You Can't Heal Without Confession (James 5:16)
Why does the Bible tell us to confess our sins to one another and what happens when we stop? In this episode of In Between Sundays, Tony Johnson and Maggie Freeman sit down with Dr Wes Beavis, clinical psychologist, to close out our three-part series on spiritual disciplines with the one most of us avoid: confession.This is not the confession you grew up picturing. It's not a booth, a priest, or a list of guilts read to a stranger. It's James 5:16 "Confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed" and the conversation asks a question most churches quietly duck.Our crew works through the psychology of shame, why secrets lose their power the moment they're spoken out loud, how to tell a safe person from an unsafe one, and what it takes to build the kind of relationships where real confession can happen. Plus a story from Psalm 32 that will reframe how you read David's whole life, and a lesson from aviation about why one-degree course corrections beat catastrophe recovery every time.📖 SCRIPTURE REFERENCEDJames 5:16 · Psalm 32 · 2 Samuel 12 · 1 John 1:9
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5 Things That Actually Improve Your Mental Health
Why does it feel like mental health is getting worse… even though life isn’t necessarily harder?In this conversation, a clinical psychologist and pastor breaks down what’s really happening beneath anxiety, depression, and feeling stuck—and why many of us are approaching mental health the wrong way.You’ll learn: • Why anxiety isn’t always a bad thing • The difference between normal struggle and being “stuck” • How labels can quietly shape your identity • Why boredom might actually be good for you • The 5 key factors that lead to real mental resilienceIf you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, stuck, or like something is “wrong” with you—this conversation will reframe everything.You’re not broken. You’re human.
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What Worship Really Is (Because It’s More Than Music)
Is worship just singing on Sunday morning?In this episode, we talk about what worship really is, why it matters, and how it goes far beyond music. From Romans 12 to John 4 to Revelation 4, this conversation explores worship as surrender, sacrifice, presence, and a life fully offered to God.We also talk about corporate worship, different worship styles, spiritual pride, authenticity, and what it looks like to worship God in spirit and truth. Whether you feel deeply connected during music or struggle to engage in worship at all, this conversation will help you rethink what it means to glorify God with your whole life.If you’ve ever wondered why worship feels powerful sometimes, distant other times, or bigger than just a song set, this episode is for you.Scriptures referenced:Romans 12:1Revelation 4:6–11John 4:21–26Matthew 4:8–10If this conversation encouraged you, like, subscribe, and share it with someone who’s learning how to follow Jesus between Sundays.
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How to Pray (When You’re Busy, Distracted, and Don’t Know What to Say)
In this episode, Tony and Maggie get brutally honest about what prayer looks like in real life—when your mind won’t slow down, your schedule is packed, your kids are up early, and you’re carrying anxiety, grief, or distraction.If you’ve ever felt guilty because your prayer life doesn’t match the “perfect quiet time” version you were taught, this conversation will help you breathe again—and take a practical next step.In this episode, we talk about: • Why prayer is a discipline (and why that matters) • Breaking free from the “it has to look like this” prayer box • How to pray throughout the day (not just one perfect morning block) • Turning distractions into invitations to pray • Simple prayers you can pray anytime: Help. Thanks. Wow. • Why Jesus teaches us to pray with boldness (even “shameless audacity”) • Why you don’t learn prayer by reading—you learn it by practicingBible verses mentioned: • Psalm 23 • Luke 11 • James 4:8If prayer feels awkward, scary, or inconsistent—don’t wait until you “feel ready.” Start practicing today.
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Can Women Be Pastors? What the Bible Actually Says
This is one of the most debated questions in the modern church:Can women be pastors?In this episode, Tony and Maggie walk through Scripture, from Genesis to the New Testament, exploring what the Bible actually says about women preaching and leadership.They discuss: • Galatians 3 and equality in Christ • The “helper” language in Genesis • Women leaders and proclaimers throughout Scripture • The “tension passages” (1 Corinthians 14 and 1 Timothy 2) and how context matters • Why this is not a salvation issue • How to disagree without dividing the ChurchThis conversation isn’t about winning an argument.It’s about studying Scripture deeply, approaching it humbly, and being willing to align ourselves with what God’s Word actually says—even when it costs us something.Whether you agree or disagree, our hope is that you’ll open your Bible, study the passages for yourself, and pursue unity in Christ.⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻Bible Verses Mentioned in This EpisodeCore passages • Galatians 3:23–29 • Genesis 2:18 • Genesis 2:21–22 • 1 Corinthians 14:34–35 • 1 Corinthians 11:5–6 • 1 Timothy 2:11–15 • 1 Timothy 3:1–7Women in Scripture referenced • Judges 4 (Deborah) • 2 Chronicles 34:14–33 (Huldah) • Joel 2 • Acts 2:4 • Luke 10:38–42 (Mary & Martha) • Luke 8:1–3 • John 20 • Acts 16 (Lydia) • Romans 16 (Phoebe + Junia) • Acts 21:8–9 (Philip’s daughters)Other passages referenced for context/examples • 1 Corinthians 8 (food sacrificed to idols)
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They Gave Up Everything to Follow God
What happens when life unravels, and God invites you to trust Him anyway?In this raw and emotional testimony, Jordan and Michaela share their journey through addiction, anxiety, foster care, financial uncertainty, and a life-changing step of obedience. From panic attacks to career transitions, from mental health struggles to miraculous provision—this is the story of what it really means to go all in with Jesus.Their vulnerability is powerful. Their faith is contagious. And their story might just be the encouragement you didn’t know you needed.
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Why You’re Never Satisfied (And What Contentment Actually Is)
Why do we always feel like we need more?More money. More stuff. More success. More security.In this episode, Tony and Maggie talk honestly about contentment—where it breaks down, why comparison and culture fuel discontentment, and how Scripture reframes what real peace actually looks like.From everyday struggles (like shoes, campers, and comparison) to deeper spiritual insight from Philippians 4 and the writings of C.S. Lewis, this conversation explores why discontentment isn’t just a bad habit—but a powerful distraction.If you’ve ever thought, “I’ll be content once I get…” this episode is for you.👉 Watch, reflect, and consider this question:What would it look like to be at peace with what God has already provided?
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Why New Year's Resolutions Almost Always Fail (And What to Do Instead)
Every January, millions of people make New Year’s resolutions — and most of them quit by mid-January.So why do we keep doing this?In this conversation, Tony and Maggie unpack why resolutions often fail and how Scripture invites us into something far better than willpower-driven self-improvement.They talk about:Why most resolutions collapse within weeksThe pressure people (especially women) feel to “set goals”The difference between resolutions and spiritual commitmentsThree biblical categories for real change:1️⃣ Stop harmful things2️⃣ Start faithful things3️⃣ Continue fruitful thingsWhy your why matters more than your goalThe uncomfortable but powerful question: “What would Jesus resolve for you?”This episode isn’t about becoming a better version of yourself — it’s about becoming the person God is forming you to be.If you’re tired of starting over every January, this conversation will help you rethink how real transformation actually happens.
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Why Christmas Hits Different When you Look Back at the Year
It’s Christmas — and that means lights, music, memories… and apparently strong opinions about Mary Did You Know.In this Christmas conversation, Tony and co-host talk about: • Why Christmas feels so emotionally powerful • The Mary Did You Know debate (yes, we went there) • Eggnog, Christmas music, and nostalgic traditions • Looking back at the year and noticing how God showed up • Gratitude, growth, and celebrating what God has doneThis episode is honest, funny, reflective, and deeply human — a reminder that Christmas isn’t just about what happened then, but about recognizing what God is still doing now.If you’re ending the year tired, grateful, reflective, or somewhere in between, this conversation is for you.🎄 Merry Christmas.
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How to Find Hope When You're Numb at Christmas
The holidays are supposed to be joyful… so why do they feel so heavy for so many of us?In this episode of In Between Sundays, Tony and Maggie have an honest conversation about mental health, grief, seasonal depression, and the struggle of navigating Christmas when your heart is broken.They share personal stories of loss, unexpected emotional crashes, family traditions that now feel different, and how the presence of God—and His people—can meet us right where we are.Whether you’re grieving, feeling low, or just struggling to fake joy this season, this episode is for you. Because Christmas is still for you too.🎙️ In this episode: • Why grief intensifies during the holidays • How seasonal depression shows up—and what to do about it • Psalm 34:18 and the nearness of God in pain • What Blue Christmas services offer for those hurting • How you can show up for others who are suffering📖 “The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.” — Psalm 34:18
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Purpose vs.Calling | what Most Christians Get Wrong
Finding your purpose can feel overwhelming — and for many Christians, it’s easy to confuse your calling with your career. In this episode of In Between Sundays, we unpack what it really means to discover your God-given purpose… and how it’s often revealed over time, not in one big “burning bush” moment.Tony and Maggie share their personal journeys of figuring out purpose, the tension between success and significance, and why your job isn’t always your calling. They’ll walk you through three key questions to help you uncover your unique role in God’s kingdom — and how to start living it out right where you are.We also talk about:👉 The difference between your universal purpose and your specific calling👉 Why waiting for a “stamp of approval” can hold you back👉 How your gifts, passions, and the world’s needs intersect👉 Practical steps to test-drive ministry opportunitiesWhether you’re just starting to explore your purpose or you’re ready to take the next step, this conversation will encourage you to stop waiting and start walking in the life God designed for you.
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What Men Really Want in a Marriage (it's not what you think)
What do men really want in a relationship?It’s not just sex or surface-level connection. In this honest and vulnerable conversation, Tony and Maggie unpack the four things most men long for in marriage: to be respected, to fight battles that matter, to feel needed and wanted, and to experience deep, authentic connection.Whether you’re married, dating, or single—this episode will give you insight into the heart of biblical manhood, how respect fuels a man’s soul, and why emotional safety is vital for your relationship to thrive.👉 A follow-up to our “What Women Want” episode, this one flips the script and explores what it means for men and women to truly understand each other.
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What Women Secretly Want From Men
What do women actually want from men?In this honest and funny episode, Maggie and Tony dive into a vulnerable conversation about what women desire most in relationships — especially with men. Drawing from Scripture, real-life stories, and Maggie’s own experiences, they explore five themes: humility, being seen, safety, respect, and shared partnership.Whether you’re married, dating, raising daughters, or just trying to be a better man — this conversation is for you.Plus: what the Bible really says about masculinity, how men can create emotionally safe spaces, and why dishwasher loading can cause more fights than you’d expect.
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Why Modern Culture Is Failing Men (And How the Church Can Help)
Why is masculinity under attack and is the church part of the problem or the solution?In this powerful interview, Tony sits down with Professor Nancy Pearcey, bestselling author of The Toxic War on Masculinity, to explore the cultural, historical, and biblical roots behind today’s crisis of manhood.Whether you’re a pastor, parent, or just someone trying to navigate manhood in a confusing world, this episode will challenge assumptions and offer practical hope.
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Unified in a Divided World (Without Compromising Truth)
How can we stay united in a church when we disagree on… almost everything?In this episode of In Between Sundays, Maggie and Tony get real about what it looks like to pursue unity in a diverse body of believers. From pandemic-era tensions to deeply held theological differences, they share personal stories, biblical wisdom, and practical steps for loving one another when opinions clash.You’ll hear:Why trust can outweigh disagreement in healthy relationshipsThe “window vs. mirror” principle for engaging with different perspectivesBiblical examples of diversity making the Church strongerPractical ways to walk with people instead of just standing on issuesIf you’ve ever felt the tension of loving someone whose worldview is very different from yours, this conversation will encourage you to lean in instead of walk away.
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When the World Turns Violent and Everyone Points Fingers
Description: We paused our regular schedule to process this week’s events, including the assassination of Charlie Kirk and another school shooting, and how followers of Jesus can respond with wisdom, courage, and compassion. This isn’t an easy conversation, and we don’t claim to have all the answers. But in the middle of fear, division, and grief, our hope is to point you back to Jesus, the only true source of peace and hope.In this episode, we wrestle with questions like: Why does this tragedy feel so different? How should Christians respond when the world feels like it’s falling apart? What does forgiveness look like in moments of hate and violence? How do we move forward as the Church without losing sight of Jesus?
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Abuse, Disappointment, and Everything In Between | The Truth About Church Hurt
What do you do when the people you trust most in your church are the ones who hurt you?From small disappointments to life-altering abuse, “church hurt” covers a spectrum of pain—and it’s far more common than most of us realize. In this candid conversation, we share our own stories of hurt inside the church, unpack why it feels so personal, and explore how to heal without losing your faith.We’ll talk about:The difference between abuse and disappointment in church lifeWhy hurt in the church cuts deeper than in other areas of lifePractical steps to process your pain and find safe peopleHow forgiveness, patience, and leaning in can lead to healingWhether you’ve been hurt by gossip, poor leadership, betrayal, or worse, our prayer is that you’ll discover hope, perspective, and a next step toward restoration. If you’ve experienced church hurt—you are not alone.We’re here to say: we’re sorry for what happened, and we believe God can heal what’s been broken.
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The One Shift That Turns Financial Anxiety Into Peace
Most of us worry about money more than we want to admit. Will there be enough? Will I be able to provide for my family? In this episode of In Between Sundays, we tackle the fear of not having enough—and what Jesus really meant when He said, “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the Kingdom.” (Luke 12:32)Tony and Maggie share real-life stories about financial anxiety, cultural pressure to have “more,” and the difference between God’s provision and our own definitions of success. We explore how generosity and gratitude work together to break the cycle of fear, why contentment is more powerful than wealth, and how to live with peace in a culture of FOMO and comparison.Whether you’ve got plenty in the bank or you’re wondering how to make ends meet, this conversation will help you shift from scarcity to abundance—without falling for prosperity gospel promises.
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This is Why You Can't Let Go of Your Past
What if your biggest enemy isn’t your past, but how often you relive it?In this episode of In Between Sundays, Tony and Maggie unpack the power of rumination, the trap of shame, and why we so often dwell on past mistakes, even long after they’ve happened.Drawing from Isaiah 43 and real stories from their lives, they explore how to move forward in faith, process past trauma with honesty, and rediscover your identity in Christ.Whether you’re stuck in regret or haunted by your own voice, this episode will remind you: you are not your mistakes.
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The Truth About ‘Fear Not’ in the Bible (And Why It Still Matters)
In this episode of In Between Sundays, we’re kicking off a 3-part series on fear by tackling one of the most universal struggles: the fear of change.We dive into Joshua 1, laugh through personal stories (yes, including a mouse panic and a dancing avocado tattoo), and get honest about what it means to be strong and courageous in a world that constantly shifts around us.Whether you’re stepping into a new season or clinging to stability, this conversation will remind you:Courage isn’t about being fearless—it’s about being connected. Topics We Cover:Why “fear not” is misunderstoodJoshua’s terrifying promotionFight, flight, freeze, or fawn—how we each respond to fearWhen calling feels like the last thing you wantedHow to tell if God is leading… or if you’re just restlessThe power of community in seasons of uncertainty
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Temptation Never Looks Like Temptation
Temptation rarely starts with obvious sin, it starts with a lie. A small distortion. A whisper of doubt. In this message, we explore how the enemy's strategy hasn't changed since Eden… and how Jesus shows us a better way to resist.If you’ve ever wondered why spiritual battles feel so subtle at first, this episode is for you. Learn the three-part pattern of temptation—and how to break free through truth, intimacy with God, and a rooted identity.
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Hustle Culture is Lying to You
We don’t usually reject God outright. We just… get busy.In this episode, we’re talking about the slow drift that happens when your calendar gets full, your mind gets cluttered, and your soul starts starving. This isn’t a sin issue—it’s a priority issue. And it’s stealing your intimacy with God without you even realizing it.Drawing from biblical stories, personal experience, and honest reflection, we’ll help you identify what’s crowding out God in your life—and how to make space again. What’s getting your first and best? Are you unintentionally pushing God to the margins? And how can you return to a life marked by presence, not just productivity?
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Why Did God Choose David (Even After Everything He Did)?
What does it really mean to be a person after God's own heart? In this episode of In Between Sundays, we take a deep dive into the story of David—the broken, flawed king—and what made him different from Saul. It wasn’t his perfection. It was his response to failure.Through moments of worship, repentance, and raw vulnerability, David gives us a model not of perfection—but of proximity to God. This episode explores:Why David was called “a man after God’s own heart”What true repentance looks likeWhy sin doesn’t define you—but your response doesHow to draw close to God in the everyday moments between Sundays🔔 Subscribe for more conversations that help you live out your faith in between Sundays.
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How to Set Boundaries Without Feeling Guilty
In Episode 3 of In Between Sundays, Maggie and Tony tackle a question that can feel confusing:How the heck do we approach boundaries, especially the way Jesus did?Inside, they unpack:👉 Why healthy boundaries keep people in your life, not push them out👉 How Jesus Himself modeled boundaries👉 Real-life stories about family, friendships, and ministry boundaries👉 How to set boundaries before relationships get messy👉 How broken boundaries hurt the people closest to youThis episode will help you rethink boundaries — not as a betrayal of faith, but an act of love.🎧 Subscribe for more honest conversations every other Thursday.Like, comment, and subscribe to stay updated with the latest content from 2|42 Community Church.
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I Can't Hear God...Now What?
In Episode 2 of Between Sundays, Maggie and Tony wrestle with a tension every believer faces: the silence of God. Or is it silence at all?Together they unpack:❗️Why God might feel quiet but isn’t❗️The difference between God’s absence and His whisper❗️How sin, distractions, or our expectations can block His voice❗️What it looks like to hear God in your everyday rhythm❗️Real stories of trauma, prayer, frustration, and perseveranceThis episode is honest, raw, and full of hope — for anyone who’s ever whispered, “God, where are you?”🎧 Subscribe for more real-talk faith episodes every week.
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How to Follow Jesus When Your Life Falls Apart
86% of your week isn't Sunday. So how do you live out your faith the rest of the time?In this relaunch episode of In Between Sundays, Maggie and Tony dive deep into what it really means to follow Jesus through pain, parenting, doubt, trauma, loyalty, and transformation.This isn’t a highlight reel. It’s the messy middle. It’s where faith becomes real.
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Have you ever felt like it’s easier to have faith on Sunday morning than on Monday? Between Sundays is a podcast here to help you follow Jesus in your ordinary everyday life.
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Have you ever felt like it’s easier to have faith on Sunday morning than on Monday? In Between Sundays is a podcast here to help you follow Jesus in your ordinary everyday life.
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Tony Johnson and Maggie Freeman
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