Liturgical rebels

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine explores the concept of being a liturgical rebel, emphasizing the importance of spiritual seeking, the need for diverse spiritual practices, and the role of doubt in faith. She discusses how liturgical rebels challenge traditional church norms and seek to create beauty and wholeness in the world through various forms of art and community engagement. Christine encourages listeners to embrace their unique spiritual journeys and to find practices that resonate with their experiences.TakeawaysA liturgical rebel is someone who seeks spiritual growth outside traditional church settings.Being a Liturgical Rebel is about walking together in faith, not leading or following.There is no clear roadmap for being a follower of Jesus.Engaging in diverse spiritual practices can help stretch our understanding of faith.Doubt is a natural part of faith and can lead to deeper understanding.Spiritual practices can include everyday activities that draw us closer to God.Art and creativity are powerful tools for spiritual expression.Community engagement is essential for Liturgical Rebels to thrive.Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebook

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation with Christine, Kate Caroe shares her innovative approach to storytelling, education, and community building through her project Out of the Box. Discover how her methods foster wonder, wisdom, and wellbeing across diverse settings, from schools to care homes, and learn practical ways to incorporate storytelling and reflective practices into your own work.TakeawaysStorytelling is a tool for learning and community buildingEmotional connection in stories is key to learningBuilding atmosphere and trust provides space for deep reflectionSpiritual and community engagement require innovative approachesKate Caroe is co-Founder of OutoftheBox Training & Consultancy. She has home educated her six children following the educational philosophy of Charlotte Mason. She is also Chair of Trustees of Steel City Choristers, a grassroots cathedral-style choir which aims to make choral music more relevant and accessible. In the past she worked in international media planning and was a Trustee of Salmon Youth Centre in Bermondsey. Her degree was in Japanese at Clare College Cambridge.Kate Caroe can be reached at outofthebox.org and Steel City Choristers can be found here.Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXMusic by Maksym Malko from Pixabay

Send us Fan MailChristine's interview with Ray Minniecon explores Indigenous heritage, environmental stewardship, and advocacy for Indigenous rights globally. It highlights the importance of land, culture, and spiritual perspectives in addressing climate change and social justice.Key topicsIndigenous heritage and advocacyEnvironmental stewardship and land rightsThe impact of colonization and policies like the Stolen GenerationsThe need for the UN to exist as a resource for indigenous peoplesThe roles and responsibilities, past and future, of the ChurchRay Minniecon is an Aboriginal pastor with roots in the Kabikabi and Gurang-Gurang tribes of Queensland. He lives in Sydney and has dedicated his life to supporting members of the Stolen Generations of Aboriginals. The term “Stolen Generations” refers to the tens of thousands of Aboriginal children who, from the late 1800s until the 1970s, were forcibly removed from their families by government agencies and church missions in an attempt to assimilate them into the culture of white Australia. Ray is a Board member with several Indigenous Ministries and organizations. He is Founder of the Coloured Digger Project and Consultant to both the Kinchela Boys Home Aboriginal Corporation and the Children of the Bomaderry Aboriginal Children's Home where many Aboriginal children were taken and placed under the Native Welfare Act of NSW.Ray Minniecon can be found at the Forgiveness Project  and on facebook https://www.facebook.com/raymond.minniecon/ Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXMusic by Maksym Malko from Pixabay

Send us Fan MailIn this insightful interview, April Yamasaki shares her insights into grief, her biblical reflections on loss, and spiritual practices for healing and hope. She and Christine discuss her books, including 'Hope Beyond Our Sorrows' and 'Sacred Pauses,' which offer valuable tools for navigating life's challenges. April explains how the human journey through grief is similar whether it is the traumatic loss of a spouse, loss of a job, or even loss of a dream.Key TopicsGrief and healing processBiblical stories of Naomi, Ruth, ElijahSpiritual practices for renewalImpact of loss on relationshipsBalancing life and faith during griefApril Yamasaki writes on her author website at AprilYamasaki.com, which is the best way to learn more about her. On Substack, she focuses on writing as a spiritual journey. Her most recent books include 'Hope Beyond Our Sorrows' and 'Sacred Pauses'. She serves as editor for Rejoice! daily devotional magazine, published by MennoMedia. She also preaches once a month for Valley CrossWay Church, which is a liturgical worship community, and often speaks in other local congregations and settings. Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXMusic by Maksym Malko from PixabayAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, originally podcast on Earthkeepers, Christine's friends Forrest Inslee and James Amadon engage with Wes and Stephanie Vander Lugt, co-founders of Kinship Plot, an intentional community in Charlotte, North Carolina. They discuss the vision behind Kinship Plot, which focuses on cultivating resonant relationships with each other, the land, and with Spirit. The conversation explores the community's practices, challenges, and the importance of contemplative action and liberatory welcome. The founders share stories of community engagement, the joy of working together, and the deep longing for belonging and rootedness in a fast-paced world. They emphasize the need for personal reflection and the impact of community on individual healing and growth. Finally, Forrest poses questions meant to get us to think about our own needs for belonging, and how we might take action to cultivate or even initiate communities of purpose.Read Wes and Stephanie's post on The Ecological Disciple here.Kinship PlotTakeawaysKinship Plot is a living laboratory for community engagement.The vision was born during COVID, focusing on relationships.Community gatherings often take place in their backyard and gardens.Names of plants and people are portals into deeper stories.Contemplative practices are essential for community life.Liberatory welcome means creating open and inclusive spaces.Rootedness in a place fosters a sense of belonging.Small actions can lead to significant community impact.The importance of intergenerational relationships in community building.More from Earthkeepers can be found here:EarthkeepersSupport the Earthkeepers podcastCheck out the Ecological DiscipleMore from Wes and Stephanie Vander Lugt can be found here:https://www.kinshipplot.orgFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXMusic by Maksym Malko from Pixabay

Send us Fan MailIn this engaging conversation, Christine Sine and Melissa Kelly reflect on their journey of creating a podcast over the past two years. They discuss the challenges and learning experiences they've encountered, the connections they've made with guests from around the world, and the importance of exploring diverse perspectives on faith and spirituality. The conversation also touches on the need to dismantle the Doctrine of Discovery, the role of art in expressing faith, and the exploration of innovative church models that foster community engagement.TakeawaysPodcasting has been a learning journey for both hosts.Connections with guests have enriched their understanding of faith.Dismantling the Doctrine of Discovery is crucial for justice.Artistic expression can deepen spiritual experiences.Exploring global perspectives broadens understanding of faith.The importance of community in spiritual practice.Melissa Kelly is Christine Sine's assistant. She has a lifetime of experience with the church and a lifelong interest in learning new things. She has a PhD in Developmental Psychology and was a professor for years. Now she runs her church office and Christine's podcast.Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXMusic by Maksym Malko from Pixabay

Send us Fan MailIn this engaging conversation, Christine Sine interviews Susy Lee whose eclectic background, experiences, and eventual embrace of family life led her to write her book, "Raising Kids Who Care." The book aims to foster meaningful conversations within families about important social issues, encouraging children to be active participants in the world rather than passive observers. Susy emphasizes the importance of community living and how it enriches relationships, particularly for men who often struggle with social connections post-retirement. 'Raising Kids Who Care' is designed to facilitate conversations about character, consumerism, and the impact of technology on children. Susy shares anecdotes about families who have successfully engaged in these conversations, highlighting the transformative power of open dialogue. Outtakes:'I realized families are not in talking about this important stuff.''The main goal of the book really is to get families talking about stuff that matters.''If we're not intentional about what we want for our family, the world is going to be.''We need to find ways to give >children< something to do about the things that are wrong.'Susy Lee is an international prize winning author, receiving Best Indie, Royal Dragonfly and Feathered Quill Book Awards for 'Raising Kids Who Care'. An award-winning and eternal student, Susy Lee majored in psychology and has a master’s degree in Peace and Conflict Studies. This helped her consider how parenting and wealth equity play roles in social cohesion. Her eclectic career twirls around the twin themes of social justice and children. It has included state and national consultancy roles with children and families, international aid and development, and advocacy. Susy has lectured at universities and run conference workshops for parents and families. She lives a bike ride from the beach in Sydney, Australia, dances whenever music plays and has raised two caring sons with her generous husband, Brian. More about Susy and her book can be found at the Raising Kids Who Care website. Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXMusic by Maksym Malko from PixabayAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this enlightening conversation, Christine Valters-Paintner shares her insights on the contemplative practices that foster spiritual growth and creativity with Christine Sine. She discusses her book 'Give Me a Word', which encourages individuals to seek a guiding word for the year, drawing from the rich traditions of monasticism and the expressive arts. Christine emphasizes the importance of listening with the heart, the significance of doorways as symbols of transition, and the transformative power of creative practices. The discussion also touches on the communal aspect of personal growth and how the insights gained can be shared for the benefit of others.TakeawaysThe 'Give Me a Word' practice is rooted in the desert monastic tradition.Listening with the heart is essential for spiritual growth.Doorways symbolize transitions and new possibilities in life.Creative practices can help embody and integrate spiritual insights.Community plays a vital role in personal transformation.The journey of spiritual growth is ongoing and requires reflectionChristine Valters Paintner is a Benedictine oblate and the online Abbess at Abbey of the Arts, a virtual monastery integrating contemplative practice and creative expression. She is a poet and the author of more than 20 books on the spiritual life, including A Midwinter God: Encountering the Divine in Seasons of Darkness.  Her newest book is Give me a Word: The Promise of an Ancient Practice to Guide ?Your Year. Christine lives on the wild edges of Ireland with her husband John and dog Sourney, where they lead online programs for a global community.You can find more about Christine Valters Paintner and her work at AbbeyoftheArts.com Transformative Living through Contemplative and Expressive ArtsFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXMusic by Maksym Malko from PixabayAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way.

Send us Fan MailChristine and Tom Sine reflect together on lessons from the past and themes in their work that help us look to the future. Christians and churches need to get out in front of this changing world and help shape the world Christ envisioned. Christ is calling us to a world of meaning and meaningful living beyond the current consumer culture. Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine and Mark Pierson discuss the unique aspects of Advent and Christmas worship in the Southern Hemisphere, particularly in New Zealand. They explore the challenges and creative approaches to integrating local culture and indigenous practices into the liturgical calendar. Mark shares insights on how to make Advent a meaningful and reflective season, emphasizing the importance of community and creativity in worship. They also recommend resources for enhancing the Advent experience and reflect on the deeper meanings of the season.TakeawaysMark describes himself as a garden variety pastor.Advent marks the start of summer in New Zealand and a busy time with many people going on holiday.Mark emphasizes the need to model a different way of being during Advent.Advent is a time for reflection and creativity.The essence of celebrations should be reclaimed and rooted in reality.Mark shares the importance of care when incorporating indigenous practices in worship.Resources like the 2-minute Advent video can enhance understanding.Mark Pierson is passionate about designing worship events and spaces that enable people, inside and outside the church, to engage with the Trinitarian community of God in creative, life-giving, formative and transformative ways. He is an accredited minister of the Baptist Churches in New Zealand, and over the last 25 years has developed the model of worship curator for the design of worship events. In that time he has written extensively, curated worship events, and led seminars in churches, institutions and festivals around the world on the integration of the arts, faith, and justice using the worship curation model.His 2010 book “The Art of Curating Worship: Reshaping the role of worship leader”, is his contribution to this discussion of how God can speak through art.Mark currently curates a weekly worship event, Rhythms of Grace, in Auckland, focused on spiritual formation. Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace & Liturgical Rebels in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Terry Wildman shares his journey as a Native American leader and translator of the First Nations New Testament. He and Christine discuss the importance of language and culture in understanding faith, the process of translating biblical texts to resonate with Native peoples, and the significance of storytelling in conveying spiritual truths. Wildman emphasizes the need for cultural sensitivity in language, particularly in translating terms like 'church' to better reflect Native values and experiences. He also introduces his Christmas book, which started as part of the First Nations New Testament. Its interpretation on the Nativity story highlights the importance of names and cultural connections in a narrative.TakeawaysLanguages are important to God and reflect His creation.Salvation is about restoration and healing.Our understanding of faith is enriched by experiences different cultures.Translation must resonate with the cultural context of the audience.The word 'church' carries historical baggage for Native peoples.Storytelling is a powerful tool for sharing spiritual truths.Embracing diversity in faith leads to a richer understanding of God.Terry M. Wildman (Ojibwe and Yaqui) is the lead translator, general editor, and project manager of the First Nations Version. He serves as the director of spiritual growth and leadership development for Native InterVarsity. He is also the founder of Rain Ministries and has previously served as a pastor and worship leader. He and his wife, Darlene, live in Arizona. The second book from the project First Nations Version Psalms and Proverbs is now available. Learn more about the translation council and process at firstnationsversion.com.Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace & Liturgical Rebels in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine and Kelley Nikondeha explore the intersections of liberation theology, the role of women in faith, and the realities of the Advent season. They discuss the importance of understanding the historical and cultural context of biblical narratives, particularly focusing on the figure of Mary and the significance of community and hospitality in the birth of Jesus. The conversation emphasizes the need to confront trauma and suffering in order to cultivate genuine hope and transformation in our lives and communities.TakeawaysLiberation theology is deeply rooted in personal experiences and community work.Women play a crucial role in both biblical narratives and contemporary faith practices.The Advent season should reflect the harsh realities of human suffering.Mary represents a figure of rebellion and strength against societal norms.Understanding the land and its history can deepen our comprehension of biblical stories.Community and hospitality are essential in the narrative of Jesus' birth.Trauma and loss are integral to the human experience, including Jesus' life.The concept of Jubilee offers a framework for addressing economic injustices.Hope and transformation arise from acknowledging and lamenting suffering.Kelley Nikondeha is a theologian, feminist, Co-Director of Communities of Hope, a community development enterprise in Burundi, Co-founder of Amahoro Africa, and the the author of forth-coming Jubilee Economics: The Purpose, Practices, & Possibilities for a Better Future (Orbis, November 2025); The First Advent in Palestine: Reversals, Resistance, and the Ongoing Complexity of Hope (Academy of Parish Clergy Top 10 for 2022); DEFIANT: What the Women of Exodus Teach Us about Freedom (Academy of Parish Clergy 2021 Book of the Year); And ADOPTED: The Sacrament of Belonging in a Fractured World (Christianity Today 2018 Award of Merit for Christian Living / Discipleship). Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailRuth Harvey and Christine Sine explore the relationship between work and worship, emphasizing how skilled laborers can contribute to spiritual leadership. Ruth highlights the importance of a rhythm of daily prayer and the ethical use of time and resources within a community, as well as a commitment to justice and integrity. She discusses her formative faith experiences and her long history with Iona - which goes back to childhood. Finally they reflect on Celtic Saints and the beauty and depth of Celtic Advent - a 40 day tradition parallel to Lent.Iona takeawaysThose early workers would pray and learn together.Anyone, including the skilled laborers building Iona, could lead worship.A commitment to daily prayer is still upheld.Members discuss how they use their time and money.Members of the Iona Community live under a Rule of Life made of four rules.The community values justice, peace, and integrity.The use of Earth's resources and ethical living are shared concerns.Ruth Harvey is a leader in the Iona Community grounded in both the Quaker and Church of Scotland traditions. She has particular responsibility for Iona Community Life: Membership and Pastoral Care, Communications and Public Witness. In work and worship     God is with usGathered and scattered     God is with usNow and always     God is with usWe speak these words in Iona Abbey, at ourkitchen table, in small groups across the globe,and as we meet in community.Prayer and reflection inspire us to act forjustice and peace in the world. And as amovement for change, we inspire each other tolive out our faith wherever we find ourselves.We are convinced that communities are not justthe stuff of dreams. At their best, they are radical,inclusive spaces where everyone belongs andeveryone has the potential to change the world.And that includes you.To find out more about the Iona Community:iona.org.ukfb and Insta: @IonaCommunityyoutube: @IonaCommunityOnlineionabooks.comFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this first episode in a series preparing for Celtic Advent, Roy Searle joins Christine to discuss his own spiritual journey, Celtic Spirituality and the Northumbria Community. Roy moved from a happy, un-churched childhood to an adulthood influenced by friends and mentors from a variety of Christian traditions. He himself has led a number of different Christian churches and communities, including the Northumbria Community, a geographically diverse community of believers. Christine and Roy explore the particular blessings of Celtic Spirituality and discuss ways of being and doing Church. Roy Searle lives with his wife Shirley in Newcastle, in the north-east of England. A father of four and grandfather of eight, Roy loves spending time with family and friends, playing a lot of sport, and spending time in his beloved Northumberland. A Northumbrian by birth and calling, he is a companion and former leader of the Northumbria Community, www.northumbriacommunity.org. He is a former President of the Baptist Union of Great Britain, a creative pioneer ambassador, leadership mentor, a member of the Renovare Board in Britain and Ireland, www.renovare.org.uk, an associate of a Northumbrian Collective www.northumbrian.org and a member of The Commons executive team, https://www.thecommonscooperative.com. He contributed and was part of the editorial team that compiled Celtic Daily Prayer and he has recently published a book on Forming Communities of Hope in the Great Unravelling: Leadership in a changing world, with his friend, the Canadian missiologist Alan Roxburgh (interviewed by Christine this year, here.)Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine interviews Ben Lowe, exploring his multicultural background, faith journey, and deep connection to creation. They discuss the importance of environmental stewardship within Christian theology, the blind spots often present in traditional teachings, and the growing engagement of Christians in environmental issues. They discuss the theological perspectives that inform Christian attitudes towards creation care, the impact of political identity on environmental attitudes, and the importance of education and connection to nature in fostering a love for God's creation. Lowe shares insights about A Rocha's mission and various initiatives aimed at promoting ecological awareness and action within communities. TakeawaysBen Lowe's upbringing in Singapore fostered a love for creation.Many Christians overlook the importance of creation in theology.Cultural lenses can distort our understanding of God's Word.Environmental issues are often rooted in social crises and attitudes are driven by political identity rather than theology..Christians should be at the forefront of environmental care.The Left Behind theology can create a disconnect from environmental concerns.Understanding scripture in context is crucial for responsible environmental stewardship.Caring for creation begins with knowing and loving the world around us.A Rocha's mission is to equip others to care for creation.Churches can serve as community hubs for environmental action.Simple actions like composting can make a difference.The invitation to care for creation is a privilege and responsibility.Rev Dr Ben Lowe is the Executive Director of A Rocha USA, a Christian environmental conservation organization and part of the worldwide A Rocha network. He holds a BS in environmental biology from Wheaton College and a PhD in the human and religious dimensions of environmental change from the University of Florida (USA). Originally from Singapore, Ben is an ordained minister, the author of multiple books, and was the founding national organizer of Young Evangelicals for Climate Action. Ben is currently based in the warm and watery state of Florida, USA, where he can often be found kayaking around the mangroves. More about A Rocha can be found hereFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailBrian McLaren discusses his journey into writing science fiction with Christine Sine as they discuss his latest book, The Last Voyage. He was inspired by the socio-political climate and his Christian faith. They explore the prophetic nature of sci-fi, the importance of community and diversity, and the transformative power of conflict. McLaren emphasizes the need for imagination in church work and in addressing contemporary challenges and rethinking leadership within a collaborative framework. The discussion also touches on environmental concerns and the role of storytelling in shaping a better future.TakeawaysBrian Mclaren's journey into science fiction began after the 2016 US election.He views science fiction as a prophetic genre that can help us imagine the future.The importance of diversity and of including artists and ethicists in problem-solving is emphasized.The conflicts between characters in stories can lead to transformative experiences.Mclaren reflects on the need for humility among different groups to work together.The conversation highlights the role of community in storytelling and problem-solving.McLaren discusses the environmental implications of his work and the need for a collective response to crisis.The trilogy he is writing aims to explore these themes through a narrative lens.A former English professor, Brian D. McLaren was a pastor for twenty-four years. Now he’s an author, activist, public theologian, and popular public speaker. His work has been covered in TIME Magazine, Newsweek, USA Today, The New York Times, Washington Post, and CNN. The author of more than 15 books, including Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart, Faith After Doubt, Do I Stay Christian? and A New Kind of Christianity, he is a faculty member of The Living School at the Center for Action and Contemplation. You can find Brian's blog, social media links, and contact information on his website, brianmclaren.netFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine and Mark Wallace explore the intersection of faith, ecology, and the divine. Mark shares his journey from a traditional evangelical background to a deeper understanding of the relationship between religion and the natural world. They discuss the concept of the creatureliness of God, emphasizing how God is embodied and represented in nature and the implications of environmental destruction on spirituality. The conversation also highlights the importance of figures like John Muir in bridging faith and nature, and the need for a spiritual reconnection to the earth in the face of climate change.TakeawaysMark emphasizes the importance of mystery and awe in faith.Religion and ecology are deeply interconnected.The loss of biodiversity reflects a spiritual crisis and damage to God.The Bible uses earth-based imagery to refer to God.John Muir saw no contradiction between faith and nature.Killing animals impacts our relationship with God.Worshiping nature can be a form of spiritual practice.The current environmental crisis is a tragedy for God.Mark I. Wallace is the James Hormel Professor of Social Justice in the Department of Religion at Swarthmore College. At Swarthmore, he directs the ChesterSemester Fellowship in which college students work alongside Chester PA city partners in high-value internships focused on education and environmental justice. He has been a visiting professor at The University of Pennsylvania, Princeton Theological Seminary, and Japan International Christian University, and is core faculty for the U.S. State Department's Institutes on Religious Pluralism at Temple University. His many books include When God Was a Bird: Christianity, Animism, and the Re-Enchantment of the World (Fordham University Press 2019), awarded the 2019 Nautilus Gold Award for best book in Western religious thought; and Green Christianity: Five Ways to a Sustainable Future (Fortress 2010). His research has been supported by the American Council of Learned Societies, the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, the Eugene M. Lang Foundation, the American Academy of Religion, and the National Endowment of the Humanities.To reach Mark I. Wallace, he/him:James Hormel Professor of Social Justice, Dept. of Religion, Swarthmore College, 500 College Ave., Swarthmore PA 19081, [email protected], https://swarthmore.zoom.us/j/5095249320,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_I._WallaceFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine interviews Ash Barker about his journey with Urban Neighbours of Hope, exploring themes of community development, cultural transitions, and the importance of empowering local talent. They discuss the challenges and rewards of working in diverse environments, the impact of family dynamics on community work, and the significance of participatory church models. Ash shares inspiring stories, including that of Poo, a local chef who transformed her life through community support. The conversation also touches on the role of spiritual practices, the challenges of chronic illness, and the power of storytelling in reimagining communities. Ultimately, Ash emphasizes the importance of Jesus' model of empowerment and the need for humor and community in ministry.TakeawaysCultural transitions can shape community development approaches.Empowering local talent leads to sustainable change.Family dynamics play a crucial role in community work.Leadership transitions can open new opportunities for growth.The seedbed vision emphasizes cultivating local leaders.Participatory church models foster community engagement.Spiritual practices help in paying attention to community needs.Chronic illness can impact community work but also provide insights.Storytelling is vital in reimagining communities.Husband to a force of nature (Anji) and Dad to two amazing young people (Amy and Aiden), Ash has spent over 30 years living and serving on the front line of urban poverty and has a passion to release the unique potential of urban people and places. Since 2014, the Barkers have been based in Winson Green, inner city Birmingham, UK. They founded Newbigin House which started two new local congregations as well as innovative organisations such as Newbigin Community Trust (NewbiginTrust.uk), Red Letter Christians UK (RedLetterChristians.org.uk) and Urban Shalom Society (UrbanShalomSociety.org). Ash and Anji are also United Reformed Church Ministers of Lodge Road Community Church in Winson Green with Anji also leading Newbigin Community Trust. A strategic focus for Ash is leading Seedbeds (the public name for Newbigin School for Urban Leadership). Through responsive, practical and innovative programmes, Seedbeds grows local leaders and communities into fullness of life, believing that every local community can flourish, but few neighbourhoods realise their unique potential. Seedbeds equips local people and places to discover, connect and release their unique potential together from the inside out.More information about Ash Barker can be found at Seedbeds website Seedbeds donationsSeedbeds facebook Seedbeds youtube Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation with Christine, Mike Frost shares his journey from a conventional upbringing to becoming an advocate for social justice and a voice in the church. He discusses the importance of understanding the intersection of faith and activism, the role of Australians in global conversations, and the impact of his work, particularly the book 'The Shaping of Things to Come'. Mike emphasizes the need for the church to embrace eccentricity and adapt its mission to the context of modern society, drawing on historical examples of transformative figures like Alice Sealy Harris.TakeawaysMike's upbringing in a socially conscious family shaped his commitment to social justice but there was a disconnect between his faith and activism.The church's role in social justice is increasingly recognized among younger generations.Cultural perspectives influence how social justice is approached in different communities.Australians have a unique voice in global church conversations.The book 'The Shaping of Things to Come' emerged from a personal journey of renewal.Eccentricity in Christianity is essential for fostering inclusive communities.Mission should adapt to the context in which it is practiced.Historical examples of advocacy can inspire modern mission work.Embracing new shapes in mission is crucial for relevance in today's society.Michael Frost is an internationally recognized Australian missiologist and one of the leading voices in the missional church movement. Since 1999, Dr Frost has been the founding director of the Tinsley Institute, a mission study centre located at Morling College in Sydney, Australia. He is the author or editor of nineteen theological books, the best known of which are the popular and award-winning, The Shaping of Things to Come (2003), Exiles (2006), The Road to Missional (2011) and Surprise the World! (2016). Frost’s work has been translated into German, Korean, Swedish, Portuguese and Spanish.He was one of the founders of the Forge Mission Training Network and the founder of the missional Christian community, smallboatbigsea, based in Manly in Sydney’s north. He is also well known for his protests against Australia’s treatment of refugees, some of which have resulted in his arrest by the NSW police, as well as his advocacy for racial reconciliation, foreign aid, and gender equality.You can find out more about Mike Frost at https://mikefrost.net.Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine and John van de Laar explore John's journey of faith, identity, and the transformative power of liturgy. They discuss the challenges of navigating faith as an autistic individual, the importance of engaging with liturgy in a meaningful way, and the reinterpretation of the Book of Revelation in contemporary contexts. John's experiences highlight the intersection of personal faith, community, and the evolving understanding of spirituality.TakeawaysLiturgy plays a crucial role in personal transformation.Liturgy should engage all senses.Revelation can be understood as a timeless message embedded in a message fully shaped by its moment in history.The church calendar can be adapted for Southern Hemisphere contexts.Faith communities can be both inclusive and challenging for autistic individuals.John emphasizes the need for honesty in faith expressions.John Van de Laar is a progressive, autistic writer, musician, theologian, and liturgist who loves exploring life, Jesus the Christ, the Bible, liturgy, and worship (in the broadest sense) from the perspective of evolutionary spirituality. John is the author of three books, including The Hour That Changes Everything, and writes at Sacredise Your Life! on Substack (https://sacredise.substack.com/publish/home). John lives outside of Johannesburg, South Africa, with his wife Debbie. They have two adult sons. Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation with Christine, Alan Roxburgh shares his transformative journey of faith, beginning from his working-class roots in Liverpool to his current life in Canada. He discusses the evolution of missional living, emphasizing the importance of relationality and community over traditional church practices. Alan highlights the need for churches to shift their focus from programs to genuine relationships, addressing the loneliness and isolation prevalent in modern society. He advocates for simple, everyday practices that foster connection with God and others, while navigating the complexities of a changing world.TakeawaysExperiencing love for the first time led Alan to Christianity.Missional living is about being present, not programs.Communities centered around God can address societal loneliness.Eating together fosters community and connection.Our people are not our projects; they are loved by God.Shifting focus from church growth to relationality is crucial.Practices like dwelling in scripture help build community.Asking new questions is more important than finding answers.Simplicity in faith practices can lead to deeper engagement.Alan J. Roxburgh a pastor, seminary professor, and mentor in leadership and missional transformation, who has written thirteen books on missional leadership and culture change. In his work he addresses questions of church and mission, convinced the Spirit is fermenting a movement of God's people that can't be contained in narratives of renewal, reform, or fixing existing systems. Alan was born in Liverpool England but now live in British Columbia Canada. When not traveling or writing, Alan enjoys mountain biking, hiking, cooking and hanging out with Jane and their five grandchildren as well as drinking great coffee in the Pacific North West.Alan can be found at TMN | Journal | Missional CommonsYouTube | Blog | Books | Twitter | FacebookFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine and Rachel G. Jordan explore the intersection of marine biology, faith, and environmental conservation. They discuss personal journeys into marine science, the challenges faced by women in the field, and the importance of biodiversity in ecosystems. The conversation also highlights the threats to coral reefs and practical steps individuals can take to contribute to conservation efforts, emphasizing the role of faith in understanding and responding to environmental issues.TakeawaysRachel's journey into marine biology was inspired by childhood experiences in tide pools.The wonder found in studying the natural world scientifically deepens faith.The scientific community has been curious about Rachel's faith and open to her experiences, offering deep conversations.In Rachel's experience, women in marine science are increasingly supported within the scientific community.Biodiversity is crucial for ecosystem resilience and stability.The natural world is a manifestation of what God values. Its diverse, interconnected design shows us God's plan for what to value and how to thrive.Coral reefs face significant threats from climate change and human activity.Coral bleaching is an existential crisis caused by rising ocean temperatures.Practical actions, like reducing plastic use, can help protect marine ecosystems.Understanding the interconnectedness of ecosystems is vital for conservation efforts.Rachel G. Jordan is a professional marine biologist and lay theologian. A self-professed Jesus-loving coral nerd, she was raised in Idaho and has since traveled the globe chasing her passion for faith and science. She has an MS in marine biology and ecology from James Cook University (Australia), a BS in ecology from Seattle Pacific University (USA), and a certification in biblical studies from Bodenseehof Bible School (Germany). In addition to working as a coral biologist for the US National Park Service, Rachel has worked in marine aquaculture research, organic chemistry laboratories, veterinary research facilities, the pet industry, and a museum. When not diving or writing, she can be found reading C.S. Lewis, growing wildflowers, and exploring creation with her husband. Rachel Jordan can be found on Instagram @shorelinesoul or at rachelgjordan.comFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine and Victoria Loorz explore the intersection of faith and ecology, discussing Victoria's journey from a corporate career to becoming a leader in the Wild Church movement. They delve into the importance of connecting spirituality with nature, the emergence of the Wild Church Network, and the significance of sacred conversations with the natural world. Victoria shares insights from her work with the Seminary of the Wild, emphasizing the need for intentional practices to foster a deeper relationship with the earth and each other. This conversation explores the deep connections between nature, spirituality, and community and addresses the importance of rewilding both the land and the soul. Victoria and Christine emphasize the need for storytelling in fostering a deeper relationship with the natural world. The dialogue highlights the interconnectedness of health, biodiversity, and spirituality, advocating for a holistic approach to living in harmony with nature. The concept of a 'wild God' is introduced as a call to action for individuals to engage more fully in the miraculous dance of life, ultimately leading to a rewilding of the church and spiritual practices.TakeawaysVictoria Loorz emphasizes the importance of connecting faith with nature and the spiritual implications of climate change.The Wild Church Network was founded to create a space for worship in nature, recognizing the earth's inherent holiness.Sacred conversations with nature are deeply important.The Field Guide to Church of the Wild serves as a resource for those looking to start their own gatherings in nature.The practice of wandering in nature allows individuals to connect with the divine and their surroundings.Community and shared experiences are crucial for understanding spirituality.The Seminary of the Wild focuses on deepening relationships with the natural world and fostering conversations with it.Victoria discusses the concept of sacred reciprocity and how it relates to our connection with nature.Intentional practices are necessary to reconnect with the earth and each other. Storytelling and community engagement are crucial for successful rewilding efforts.Rewilding involves restoring both land and spiritual practices.A healthy ecosystem reflects the importance of diversity.The concept of a 'wild God' encourages deeper participation in life.Unlearning disconnection is a vital part of spiritual development.Victoria Loorz, MDiv, is a wild church pastor, an eco-spiritual director and co-founder of several transformation-focused organizations focused on the integration of nature and spirituality. After twenty years as a pastor of indoor churches, she launched the first Church of the Wild, in Ojai CA and began to meet others with the same sense of call to leave building and expand the Beloved Community beyond our own species. She then co-founded the ecumenical Wild Church Network.   Victoria is co-founder and director of Seminary of the Wild, which is focused on a deep-dive yearlong Eco-Ministry Certificate program for all those who feel called by Earth and Spirit to "restore the great conversation." (Thomas Berry)  She has two books about Wild Church - Church of the Wild and Field Guide to Church of the Wild. Victoria Loorz can be found on her website: https://www.victorialoorz.comFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine and her husband, Tom Sine, interview James Amadon about the evolution of Circlewood, an ecological ministry on Camano Island, and the journey that led James to take on leadership. They explore the integration of ecology and faith, the history of the land, and the vision for future development, including educational programs and community partnerships. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of hope and the need for new paradigms in pastoral leadership to address ecological challenges.TakeawaysA new paradigm of pastoral leadership is needed to address ecological crises.Circlewood aims to create spaces for transformative experiences.Celtic spirituality and ecological awareness are foundational to Circlewood's work.Educational programs are being developed to foster ecological discipleship.Partnerships with local organizations enhance community engagement.The work of Circlewood is about serving the common good.Hope is essential in navigating the challenges of our time.James Amadon was raised in the Great North Woods of New Hampshire, but has called the Pacific Northwest home since 2007.  His desire to integrate faith and ecology led him to start Circlewood in 2017. As the Executive Director of Circlewood, James guides the mission to “accelerate the greening of faith” through creative and global media, including the Earthkeepers podcast and The Ecological Disciple online journal, immersive education like The Journey of Ecological Discipleship leadership cohort, and the development of Circlewood Village, a sustainable learning center on Camano Island. James is ordained in the Covenant Church, and pastored in churches for 15 years. He has a BA from Gordon College, an MDiv from North Park Theological Seminary, and a DMin from Duke Divinity School, where he focused his work on developing a framework for Ecological Christian Leadership (ECL). James can be found at:https://www.circlewood.online/https://www.facebook.com/CirclewoodEarthCarehttps://www.instagram.com/circlewood_earthcare/https://www.linkedin.com/company/circlewood/https://bsky.app/profile/circlewoodearth.bsky.socialFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on Instagram

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Ian Mobsby shares his transformative journey from a liberal atheist background to embracing the Christian faith. He discusses his involvement in alternative worship and missional communities, emphasizing the importance of building relationships and fostering spiritual journeys. The conversation delves into the rise of contemplative spirituality, highlighting its appeal to both churchgoers and those outside the faith. Ian presents a contemplative approach to mission, focusing on God's work of restoration rather than human manipulation. The cyclical nature of spiritual growth and the transformative power of the contemplative tradition in Christianity is explored. They delve into the concept of being 'spiritual but not religious' and the need for a shift from traditional hierarchical models of church leadership to a more community-oriented approach. TakeawaysThe alternative worship movement provides a space for those disenchanted with traditional church settings.Missional communities focus on building relationships and on spiritual journeys not just attendance.Contemplative spirituality is gaining traction among both churchgoers and those outside the faith.The cyclical nature of spiritual growth involves awakening, purgation, illumination, and union with God.Mission should be seen as God's work of restoration rather than human manipulation.Prayer is about more than making requests.Ian facilitates meditation groups that blend spirituality with community engagement.Contemplative practices can bridge the gap between spirituality and religion.Leadership in the church should focus on being of service rather than using power.The concept of kin-dom emphasizes community over hierarchy.Contemplative practices can foster resilience in chaotic timesIan Mobsby became a Christian through the alternative worship and emerging church movements in the 1990s from a lefty atheist background and never quite fitted into traditional church. He has over 10 years experience of working as a lay pioneer/missioner, and over 20 years as an ordained missioner/pioneer practitioner. Ian has developed a deep contemplative Christian faith and practice and written a number of books on aspects of contemporary mission and spirituality. He recently completed a research PhD, part exploration of the 'Spiritual But Not Religious', part theological response exploring a particular contemplative model of mission. The most recent book “The Seeking Heart: A Contemplative Approach to Mission and Pioneering was published in January 2025.  Ian moved to Canada to take up the senior position as the Diocesan Community Missioner working directly to the Bishop of Niagara to develop mission and missional communities. Ian continues his work as a chapter member of the international new monastic Society of the Holy Trinity and as a Trustee of the St Anselm Community in Lambeth Palace. Ian can be found atPersonal Website: https://www.ianmobsby.netFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/ian.mobsbySubstack: https://postsecularcontemplative.substack.comBlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/ianjmobsby.bsky.socialLinked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-mobsby-8ab7a3b/Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Liturgical Rebels podcast, Kevin Sweeney shares his transformative journey from a conservative Christian background to a more progressive and radical perspective. He discusses the significance of the Black prophetic tradition in shaping his faith and the importance of understanding the Cosmic Christ as a universal force. The conversation also delves into the role of the Concrete Jesus in calling believers to action and the limitations of traditional creeds in addressing love, justice, and liberation. In this conversation, Christine Sine and Kevin explore the significance of embodiment in faith, the limitations of creeds, and the transformative power of mysticism. They discuss how the teachings of the mystics can guide individuals towards a more experiential understanding of God. The conversation emphasizes the importance of love, community, and personal transformation in the journey of faith.TakeawaysKevin's graduation moment symbolized a challenge to institutionalized white supremacy.The Black prophetic tradition profoundly shaped Kevin's Christian imagination.Experiencing God can happen outside traditional church settings.The Cosmic Christ represents a universal force present in all creation.Creation itself is seen as the first incarnation of Christ.The Concrete Jesus emphasizes action and involvement in the world.Faith should be about transformation and direct experience with God. The creeds focus on beliefs but neglect embodiment.Mystics offer a deeper, experiential understanding of God.Being seen by God liberates us from seeking validation from others.The cosmic Christ invites us to trust in a loving reality.Personal transformation is rooted in direct experiences of God.Community and love are central to the Christian journey.Kevin Sweeney was co-founder and lead pastor of Imagine Church for almost ten years. Imagine was an urban church in Honolulu that was welcoming of all people. Kevin was co-founder of the Honolulu based creative collective The (un)Commons, spoke at Hawai’i Contemporary’s premier art Biennial, and helped lead “Saying Grace,” a curated gathering of dinners and stories between the church and the LGBTQ community in Honolulu. After receiving Masters Degrees in Theology and Intercultural Studies (with a focus on Black and Womanist theology) Kevin is fascinated with and committed to creating environments for creativity, cultural innovation, social healing, communal cohesiveness, and personal transformation.Kevin is the host of podcast “The Church Needs Therapy” and is a best selling author. His three books are "The Cosmic Christ and the Concrete Jesus", “The Making of a Mystic: My Journey with Mushrooms, My Life as a Pastor, and Why It’s Okay For Everyone to Relax,” and “The Joy of Letting Go." He currently lives and surfs in Honolulu with his wife and co-founder of Imagine, Christine, and their two kids, True and Mikayla. You can connect with Kevin Sweeney at his website www.kevinsweeneynow.com or on InstagramFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine and Forrest Inslee engage with Ruth Valerio, exploring her journey into Earth care and the integration of faith with environmentalism. Ruth shares her personal experiences and theological insights, emphasizing the interconnectedness of social justice and environmental issues. The discussion highlights the importance of simplicity in living, the role of the church in advocating for Earth care, and the need for individual action in addressing the climate crisis.takeawaysRuth's journey into Earth care began with a focus on poverty and social justice.A second conversion experience led Ruth to understand the importance of creation care.Nature is not separate from humanity; we are part of creation.Theological foundations of Earth care are rooted in scripture and God's love for all creation.Earth care and social justice are intertwined and cannot be separated.Living simply is a response to the damage caused by consumerism.The church has the potential to mobilize for significant change in Earth care.Individual actions can lead to collective impact in addressing environmental issues.Advocacy and speaking out for the marginalized is a Christian responsibility.We must resist the politicization of climate issues and focus on the crisis at hand.Ruth Valerio writes:"I have a vision to inspire and equip people to a whole-life response to environmental breakdown and poverty, helping build a movement that brings about lasting change on the issues that impact the poorest and most vulnerable, and that creates a flourishing natural world. I am Programmes, Partnerships and Advocacy Director for Embrace the Middle East – an organisation that works to support Middle East Christians as they tackle poverty and injustice in vulnerable and marginalised communities.Academically, I have a theology degree from Cambridge and a doctorate from Kings College London, in which I looked at simplicity and consumerism and particularly at the relationship between Thomas Aquinas’ virtues of temperance and justice. I also hold honorary doctorates from the Universities of Winchester and Chichester and am Canon Theologian at Rochester Cathedral.I have written extensively on justice, environment and lifestyle issues. See the Publications pages for more information. I enjoy public speaking and am a regular media contributor.My Christian faith and spirituality are central to my life, and from this bedrock comes a deep desire to work for social justice, equality and ecological flourishing. My home church is part of the 24/7 Prayer network of churches, but I feel comfortable  connecting across denominations and church networks, and am also very comfortable outside the faith sphere too!"You can contact and learn more about Ruth Valerio at ruthvalerio.netMore about Forrest Inslee including contact information can be found at his website www.circlewood.onlineFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this engaging conversation, Christine Sine and Al Tizon explore the complexities of identity, faith, and social justice. Al shares his experiences as a third culture kid and his transformative journey back to the Philippines as a missionary. They discuss the challenges of integrating theology with activism, the impact of classism, and the importance of solidarity with the marginalized. Al introduces six movements that can help individuals and communities live out the gospel in practical ways, emphasizing the need to confront comfort and embrace a life of service. The conversation concludes with reflections on the true essence of the Christian life and the call to prioritize God's project over personal comfort.TakeawaysThe term 'third culture kid' describes a unique identity shaped by multiple cultures.Returning to the Philippines was a transformative experience for Al Tizon.Classism is a significant issue that infiltrates and affects the church and society.The six movements towards solidarity can guide individuals in their faith journey.Community engagement is essential for living out the gospel.Comfort can often hinder true engagement.The church must respond to current social challenges with compassion and action.Life in Christ offers a richer fulfillment than the pursuit of comfort.Rev. Dr. Al Tizon is lead pastor of Grace Fellowship Community Church in San Francisco, CA and affiliate professor of missional and global leadership at North Park Theological Seminary in Chicago, IL.​​Al has engaged in community development, church leadership, advocacy, and urban ministry in the United States and in the Philippines. Previous positions he has held include executive minister of Serve Globally, the international ministries of the Evangelical Covenant Church denomination; holistic ministry director and then president of Christians for Social Action and associate professor of holistic ministry at Palmer Theological Seminary of Eastern University near Philadelphia, PA.Al is the author or editor of seven books, including Whole & Reconciled: Gospel, Church, and Mission in a Fractured World (Baker Academic, 2018) and Christ Among the Classes: The Rich, the Poor, and the Mission of the Church (Orbis, 2023). Al received his BA in religious studies (1984) and his MA in church leadership studies (1987) from Vanguard University of Southern California (Costa Mesa, CA). He received his PhD in missiology from the Graduate Theological Union (2005, Berkeley, CA). Al is an ordained minister of the Evangelical Covenant Church.​Al and his wife Janice live in the San Francisco Bay Area, in close proximity to their four grown children and seven grandchildren.You can learn more and contact Al on his website.Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine and Ruth discuss the intersection of theology, gender, and social justice. Ruth shares her personal history growing up in Argentina during a military dictatorship, which shaped her passion for peace and justice. They explore the challenges faced by women in theology, the importance of community living, and the role of environmental stewardship. The conversation also touches on the impact of political decisions on migration and refugee support, and concludes with a discussion on maintaining hope in chaotic times.TakeawaysRuth's personal history in Argentina shaped her passion for justice.The importance of community support for women in theology.Navigating gender issues in theological education is challenging.Intentional communities can foster hope and resilience.Environmental stewardship is a vital aspect of community life.Political decisions significantly impact migration and refugee support.God's intent is for the flourishing of all creation.Hope can be nourished through community engagement.Theological work should reflect embodied commitments.Living out faith involves seeking justice and God's reign.Ruth yearns to see peace and justice embrace in the beautiful and broken world we call home. A wife of one and mother of many, theologian, missiologist, educator, and storyteller, she has been involved in leadership development and theological education for integral mission in her native Latin America for several decades. She teaches at Western Theological Seminary (https://www.westernsem.edu) land serves with the Comunidad de Estudios Teológicos Interdisciplinarios (CETI – www.ceticontinental.org, a learning community with students across Latin America), and with INFEMIT (International Fellowship for Mission as Transformation –www.infemit.org). She serves on the board of the Oxford Centre for Mission Studies and the American Society of Missiology. She lives with her husband, James, in Costa Rica as a member of Casa Adobe, an intentional Christian Community with deep concern for right living in relation to the whole of creation(www.casaadobe.org). Her studies include a Bachelors in Education (Argentina), an MA in Interdisciplinary Studies (Wheaton College), and a PhD in Theology (Boston University).Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this engaging conversation, Christine Sine and Kendall Vanderslice explore the spiritual significance of bread making, discussing its biblical roots, the art of baking as a form of prayer, and the importance of community and tradition in the practice. They delve into the liturgical aspects of bread, seasonal recipes, and how bread making can be a meaningful Lenten practice. The discussion also touches on the science of sourdough, its digestibility, and the rich history behind traditional breads like hot cross buns, emphasizing the transformative power of incorporating bread making into our busy lives.TakeawaysBread making can be a spiritual practice.The first mention of bread in the Bible is significant.Baking bread can be a form of prayer.Liturgy provides a structure for baking bread.Seasonal recipes connect us to the church calendar.Sourdough baking can be a Lenten practice.Bread symbolizes God's provision and presence.Incorporating bread making into life can foster rest.Professional baker and practical theologian Kendall Vanderslice has spent a lot of time reflecting on the connection between the dough that clung to her hands at work and the bread blessed and pressed into her palm at church, ultimately seeing that they both were tangible reminders that God was with her and that God cared. Her most recent book is Bake and Pray: Liturgies and practices for baking bread as a spiritual practice. Kendall can be reached at:facebookInstagramFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXAs an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Liturgical Rebels podcast, Christine Sine interviews Greg Valerio, a pioneer in the fair trade jewelry movement. Valerio shares his unexpected journey into the world of fair trade gold, discussing the challenges and dangers he has faced while advocating for ethical practices in the jewelry industry. He emphasizes the importance of community engagement and the role of faith in driving social justice initiatives. The conversation also touches on the recognition Valerio has received for his work and the ongoing need for transparency and justice in the mining sector. In this conversation, Greg Valerio and Christine Sine explore the intersection of faith, wealth, and social enterprise, particularly through the lens of Peace Gold, a social enterprise aimed at transforming conflict gold into ethical jewelry. They discuss the challenges of wealth in relation to faith, the importance of community and artisan crafts, and the impact of faith-based initiatives. Additionally, they delve into Celtic spirituality and its relevance in today's world, emphasizing the need to find Christ in the margins and the significance of indigenous expressions of faith.TakeawaysGreg Valerio is recognized as a leading figure in fair trade jewelry.His journey into jewelry was accidental and driven by faith.Community voices are essential in the fair trade movement.Valerio faced significant challenges and dangers in his work.Recognition like the MBE highlights the importance of the movement.Economic justice is a biblical mandate.Artisanal miners are often exploited in the jewelry industry.The conversation highlights the intersection of faith and social justice. Wealth can be seductive and often distorts faith.Peace Gold aims to transform conflict gold into ethical jewelry.Artisan jewelry making can revive local communities.Finding Christ in the margins is essential for true faith.Social entrepreneurs create pathways for others to follow.Understanding the land is crucial to faith and belonging.Rooted in Christian beliefs in justice and peace for the common good, Greg Valerio describes his approach to campaigning, business and life as “faith in action.” He remains at the forefront of the ethical jewellery movement, challenging industry norms, pushing for greater accountability and urging jewellers to see themselves as stewards of both art and ethics. With plans to build an international network of ethical jewellers adopting PeaceGold for use in their jewellery creation and tell “the best gold story in the world,” he’s only just getting started.In November 2024, Valerio unveiled the PeaceGold Ethical Jewellery House inBishop Auckland; a retail space, inviting customers to learn directly from Valerioabout PeaceGold’s mission and social impact, shop jewellery from a curatedselection of ethics-orientated jewellers, and learn the art of jewellery craftsmanship through in-house jewellery-making workshops with goldsmith Kate Seow. “PeaceGold is a community interest company on a mission to promote ethical jewellery practice and design, and to open up the genius and creativity of the jewellery trade to the wider public,” Valerio said on launch.For more information on Greg and his adventures into fair trade gold check out Fair Trade God Uganda - An Answer to Prayer Greg Valerio can be found at:gregvalerio on Instagram, FB and LinkedInpeacegold.orgpeace-gold.comFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website

Send us Fan MailChristine Sine and Alan Hirsch discuss their long-standing friendship, Alan's multicultural background, and the impact of his experiences in apartheid South Africa on his worldview and faith. They explore Alan's spiritual transformation, his journey into writing, and the significance of his influential works, particularly in the context of the church's current challenges. In this conversation, Alan Hirsch and Christine Sine explore the centrality of Jesus in the church, the importance of living out Jesus' teachings, and the challenges faced by modern Christianity. They discuss the need for a reconstructive pathway in faith, emphasizing the significance of community and leadership in fostering spiritual growth. Hirsch shares insights from his book 'The Forgotten Ways,' highlighting the factors that contributed to the early church's exponential growth and the importance of maintaining a Jesus-centered approach in contemporary faith practices.TakeawaysExperiences of apartheid deeply influenced personal beliefs.Authenticity in the church is crucial for relevance today.The Beatitudes offer a more relevant guidance than the Ten Commandments.Alan's diverse background enriches his perspective on faith.The centrality of Jesus is crucial for the church.Jesus should define the character and content of the church.Gospel-centeredness can lead to a de-centering of Jesus.Reductionism in theology can lead to heresy.The early church grew without the structures we rely on today.A bigger understanding of Jesus which includes centering justice, compassion, and equality is necessary for growth.Deconstruction must lead to reconstruction in faith.Community and leadership are vital for spiritual growth.Alan Hirsch is widely considered to be a global thought-leader on missionalmovements and leadership.  Hirsch is the author of numerous award winning books including The Forgotten Ways, The Shaping of Things to Come, 5Q, ReJesus , Reframation, Untamed, and The Permanent Revolution.  He has worked with churches and organizations across the world, but mainly in North America, Europe, and Australia.Alan is a founder of the Movement Leaders Collective, Forge Mission Training Network, and the 5Q Collective. He is movement mentor for NewThing International and is a consultant for Redeemer City To City among others. His experience includes leading a local church movement among the marginalized, developing training systems for innovative missional leadership, training leaders in movement dynamics, and heading up the mission and revitalization work of his denomination.Alan Hirsch can be found at:Author & Activist   | alanhirsch.orgFounder & Co-Leader | movementleaderscollective.comFounder & Coach. | 5QCentral.comFounder & Advisor | Forge InternationalMovement Mentor | NewThingResident Consultant  | Redeemer City To CityLeadership Developer | NOVOFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailChristine Sine and Sarah Augustine delve into the Doctrine of Discovery, its historical implications for Indigenous peoples, and the ongoing impact of colonial policies, particularly the ramifications of boarding schools. They discuss the deep-rooted effects of child removal and cultural erasure, while also exploring the intersection of faith and social justice. In this conversation, Christine Sine and Sarah Augustine explore the devastating impact of the damming of Celilo Falls on local Indigenous culture, and the need for a shift from charity to repair in supporting Indigenous communities. They discuss the importance of land back programs and how white people can effectively support Indigenous movements towards decolonization and environmental stewardship.TakeawaysThe Doctrine of Discovery is a legal and policy structure that defines reality for Indigenous peoples. It has been used to disrupt culture and destroy entire economies.It has been incorporated into legal systems globally including the UN charter, affecting Indigenous rights and sovereignty.The boarding school system was a form of cultural genocide, stripping Indigenous children of their identity and removing people from their land.Child removal is a method to erase cultures and communities and a significant cause of intergenerational trauma.Christian institutions were crucial for the boarding school system, usually under the guise of "civilizing" Indigenous children.There is a need for a radical re-examination of faith in the context of social justice. Jesus came to the marginalized, not the powerful.Self-determination is critical for Indigenous communities.Charity reinforces power imbalances; repair acknowledges historical injustices.Collective action is more powerful than individual efforts.Sarah Augustine, who is a Pueblo (Tewa) descendant, is co- founder and ExecutiveDirector of the Coalition to Dismantle the Doctrine of Discovery. She is also theco-founder of Suriname Indigenous Health Fund (SIHF), where she has worked inrelationship with vulnerable Indigenous Peoples since 2005. She has representedthe interests of Indigenous community partners to their own governments, theInter-American development bank, the UN, the Organization of American States Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, the WHO, and a host of other international actors including corporate interests. She is a columnist for Anabaptist World, and co-hosts the Dismantling the Doctrine of Discovery podcast with Sheri Hostetler. She has taught at Heritage University, CWU, and Goshen College. In Washington State she serves in a leadership role on multiple boards and commissions to enable vulnerable peoples to speak for themselves in advocating for structural change. She is author of the book The Land Is Not Empty: Following Jesus in Dismantling the Doctrine of Discovery (Herald Press 2021), and co-author, with Sheri Hostetler, of So We and Our Children May Live: Following Jesus in Confronting the Climate Crisis (Herald Press 2023).Contact informationSarah Augustine:website: www.dismantlediscovery.orgFacebook: @dismantlediscovery.orgInstagram: @dismantlediscovery.orgYouTube: @dismantlingthedoctrineofdi7536Christine Sine:Walking In Wonder on Substackwebsite GodspacelightInstagramFacebook

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Liturgical Rebels podcast, Randy Woodley shares his diverse life journey, rooted in his Native American heritage and shaped by his experiences in Western Christianity. He discusses the challenges and insights gained from his faith journey, emphasizing the importance of Indigenous values and the concept of Eloheh, which represents living in harmony. Woodley also reflects on his book, 'Shalom and the Community of Creation,' exploring the values that promote a harmonious existence within communities and the natural world. In this conversation, Christine Sine and Randy Woodley delve into the profound themes of harmony, Shalom, and Indigenous values. They explore the interconnectedness of creation and the importance of living in harmony with the environment and each other. Woodley shares ecological and spiritual insights from his children's book 'The Harmony Tree'. The discussion also touches on his collaborative work with his wife Edith at the Eloheh Indigenous Center for Earth Justice, emphasizing the need for regenerative practices and the teaching of Indigenous spirituality. They conclude with a reflection on universal values that can lead to a more stable and happy society.TakeawaysRandy Woodley questioned the assimilation into Western Christianity and sought a deeper understanding of his Native heritage.Woodley emphasizes the disconnect between Western Christianity and the teachings of Jesus.He believes that God works outside traditional church settings. He and his wife, Edith, decided to follow Jesus within their own native cultural context.Eloheh represents the idea of living in harmony and peace within Indigenous cultures.The concept of Shalom encompasses living in harmony with creation and community. It is a way of living, not just a greeting.Woodley identifies core values shared among various Indigenous peoples.The Eloheh Indigenous Center promotes Earth justice and teaches Indigenous spirituality.Decolonizing and indigenizing is a journey for everyone.Storytelling is critical for passing on values.Rev. Dr. Randy Woodley is the co-founder, with his wife, Edith, of Eloheh Indigenous Center for Earth Justice and Eloheh Farm & Seeds in Yamhill, Oregon, a regenerative teaching farm.  He is a Cherokee descendent recognized by the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians and is Distinguished Professor of Faith and Culture Emeritus at Portland Seminary.  Randy has written numerous chapters, articles, and 13 books including Becoming Rooted and Journey to Eloheh which he co-authored with his wife. The Woodley's have been serving Indigenous people and others for over four decades. See eloheh.orgFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this engaging conversation, Christine Sine interviews Rev. Danae Ashley, an Episcopal priest and psychotherapist, exploring her journey of faith, the significance of liturgy, and the role of rituals in therapy, particularly in the context of fertility struggles and liminal times. Rev. Ashley shares her unique perspective on how liturgy shapes personal faith and community, and how rituals can help individuals navigate complex emotional experiences. In this conversation, Rev. Danae Ashley shares her insights on healing through personal rituals, the importance of community engagement, and the significance of Hildegard von Bingen's legacy. The discussion explores how rituals can help individuals navigate life's transitions and the transformative experience of pilgrimage. Rev. Ashley also delves into her newfound purpose in connecting Hildegard's teachings with psychotherapy, emphasizing the intertwining of spirituality and mental health.TakeawaysRev. Danae Ashley emphasizes the importance of community in spiritual journeys.Liturgy is a powerful tool for shaping personal faith and identity.Rituals provide a framework for understanding and processing life's transitions.Art and creativity play a vital role in healing and therapy.Rev. Ashley's journey reflects a deep connection to her faith and community.Understanding the history and meaning of liturgy enhances spiritual practice.Rituals in therapy can create a safe space for exploring grief and loss. Rituals help mediate big feelings in life.Pilgrimages can lead to unexpected discoveries.The teachings of Hildegard von Bingen, a polymath and healer, can inform psychotherapy.Understanding Hildegard deepens our connection to nature.The intersection of spirituality and mental health is vital.The Rev. Danáe Ashley is an Episcopal priest and licensed marriage and family therapist who has ministered with parishes in North Carolina, New York, Minnesota, and the Seattle area and is a psychotherapist at Soul Spa Seattle, LLC. Danáe uses art, music, drama, poetry, and movement in counseling, spiritual direction, and creation of ritual. She has written for a variety of publications, as well as being a contributor to podcasts, books, and producing a play about fertility struggle. Her latest adventure has been on pilgrimage with St. Hildegard von Bingen: speaking and writing about Hildegard, viriditas, and psychotherapy. She is working on her forthcoming book about these subjects. Danae's favorite pastimes include reading, traveling with her husband, making sure their rescue dog Cooper is living his best life, dancing with wild abandon to Celtic music, and serious karaoke. Learn more about Rev. Ashley's work at soulspaseattle.com.Website: https://www.soulspaseattle.com/FB: https://www.facebook.com/soulspaseattleIG: @soulspaseattle   Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIt’s time to wind up Liturgical Rebels for the year. With the approach of the festive season - Thanksgiving next week, then Advent and Christmas, I need a break from the very exciting but intense work of podcasting. This will give you a chance to catch up on those episodes you intended to listen to but have not had time for. I hope you have enjoyed the inaugural season of Liturgical Rebels. Would love to hear what feedback you have for me. What have you enjoyed on Liturgical Rebels this year? How could I improve the podcast? What kinds of guests would you like me to interview?  In this reflective conversation, Christine Sine and Forrest Inslee discuss the journey of the Liturgical Rebels podcast over the past year. They explore the diverse voices and perspectives that have been featured, the challenges of engaging an audience, and the personal growth that has come from hosting the podcast. They also look ahead to the future, emphasizing the importance of feedback and the need for new theological perspectives in a changing world.TakeawaysChristine reflects on the podcast accomplishments and highlights of interviews with artists, poets, and theologians over the past year.Forrest praises Christine for her commitment to podcasting.Diverse voices are vital for rethinking faith practices.The concept of a playful God challenges traditional views of theology.Audience engagement and accessibility of terminology are discussed as ongoing challenges.Christine emphasizes the need for feedback from listeners to improve the podcast.Future episodes will explore the liturgical calendar and indigenous worldviews.The conversation touches on the importance for spiritual growth of adapting traditions to different perspectives and cultural contexts.Christine expresses a desire to help listeners reconstruct their faith in meaningful ways.You can find out more about Forrest Inslee at Earthkeepers Podcast and CirclewoodFind out more about Christine Sine on her website Godspacelight or join her on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, David Cassian shares his journey into Celtic spirituality, detailing his early experiences and the accidental yet transformative encounters that shaped his spiritual path. He discusses the founding of Waymark Ministries, which focuses on sharing insights from Celtic Christianity and mysticism. The conversation also delves into the significance of Celtic Advent, its unique structure which includes three sets of 40 days, and the reception of Cassian's book on the subject. Additionally, the role of women in Celtic leadership is highlighted, along with practical advice for celebrating Celtic Advent amidst the busyness of the season.TakeawaysDavid's journey into Celtic spirituality began with a mystical experience.Celtic Christianity emphasizes a unique rhythm of three sets of 40 days.Celtic Advent offers a sacred space before the commercial rush of Christmas.The book 'Celtic Advent' has been well received and is popular among readers.Celtic Christianity had a strong emphasis on women in leadership and connection with nature.Rather than being church-based, Celtic Christianity developed in the context of monastic life.Celtic Christians viewed the coming of Christ as a repetitive event in life.Intentionality is key in celebrating Advent amidst busyness.​David Cassian Cole is the Founder and Executive Director of Waymark Ministries; he is an international Spiritual Teacher and Retreat Leader; he has lectured in Christian & Bible Colleges; has appeared in numerous television programs; is an award winning author of 8 books, including 'Celtic Advent', as well as being part of collaborative published writings; and was Deputy Guardian of The Community of Aidan & Hilda, a Celtic-inspired New Monastic Order that he was a member of for 20 years.He has been a full time Church Minister and Teaching Pastor in different churches and is qualified in 'Spiritual Care' (holistic care and pastoral counselling); as well as being a certified Reiki practitioner; he holds a Masters' degree in 'Christian Spirituality', specializing in the Christian mystics, and writing his thesis on how historic Celtic Christianity can inform New Monastic ideas of Discipleship.More about David Cassian's work can be found at Waymark MinistriesPurchase a copy of Christine Sines book Celtic Advent: Following An Unfamiliar Path Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine interviews Mary Fleeson, an artist inspired by Celtic spirituality and the natural beauty of Lindisfarne. Mary shares her artistic journey, the influence of ancient manuscripts, and how her faith shapes her work. The discussion also explores the meditative process of creating art, the evolution of materials used in her craft, and the inspiration she draws from music and nature. Mary highlights her current projects and aspirations, emphasizing the importance of making art accessible and meaningful.TakeawaysMary's artistic journey began with a fascination for Celtic knotwork.The beauty of Lindisfarne deeply influences Mary's artwork.Mary's art aims to draw viewers into prayer and meditation.The process of creating art is meditative and requires focus.Ancient manuscripts like the Book of Kells inspire Mary's style.Music and poetry significantly influence Mary's artwork.Mary's current projects include prayer spaces and new art pieces.Mary Fleeson has lived on Holy Island, just off the coast of Northumberland, UK since 1997. She studied textiles at college then gained an honours degree in Three-Dimensional Design in 1992. About her work Mary thinks that her style originates from doodling in lessons at school (!) combined with opportunities during her education to experiment with many different types of media and techniques.Together with her Christian faith, living on the Holy Island of Lindisfarne and being surrounded by its natural beauty and visible history, is the greatest inspiration for Mary's work; a feeling of being part of a rich cycle of life which began in pre-history and encompasses extremes of peace and violence, poverty and prosperity. She also studies early manuscripts and ancient calligraphy from around the world to gain an insight into how calligraphy and illumination have enhanced works, both religious and secular, throughout the ages.Over the last 25 years Mary has created over 120 pieces of artwork that sell as prints and greeting cards and has written and designed over 75 books including devotional, prayer, poetry and colouring books. Alongside creating illuminated art and writing Mary creates meditational weaving made from found scraps and yarn and enjoys teaching people how to create celtic knots.Mary Fleeson and her work can be found on the Lindisfarne Scriptorium facebook page and website. Find out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailChristine Valters Paintner shares her journey through life, which she describes as reminiscent of the Celtic saints. She discusses her experiences living in different places, including Ireland, and the challenges and joys of following a pilgrimage-like path. Christine also talks about her love for Benedictine and Celtic spirituality, the importance of nature in her spiritual practice, and the significance of circles and circling prayers. She describes herself as a monk in the world and discusses the Abbey of the Arts, her online monastery. Christine also shares about her upcoming book, 'A Midwinter God,' which explores encountering the divine in seasons of darkness.Christine Valters Paintner is a Benedictine oblate and the online Abbess at Abbey of the Arts, a virtual monastery integrating contemplative practice and creative expression. She is a poet and the author of more than 20 books on the spiritual life. Her newest book is A Midwinter God: Encountering the Divine in Seasons of Darkness. Christine lives on the wild edges of Ireland with her husband John and dog Sourney, where they lead online programs for a global community.Following a pilgrimage-like path can lead to a life reminiscent of the Celtic saintsNature is an important aspect of spiritual practice, and the Celtic tradition sees it as the original sacred textCircles and circling prayers are powerful symbols of wholeness and can be used in prayer and meditationLiving with chronic illness can be a teacher and lead to a deeper understanding of oneself and the divineThe Abbey of the Arts offers resources and community for those seeking a contemplative and creative pathYou can find more about Christine Valters Paintner and her work at AbbeyoftheArts.com Transformative Living through Contemplative and Expressive ArtsFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailJohn Philip Newell discusses his interest in Celtic spirituality and the sacredness of Earth. He shares his background growing up in a conservative evangelical tradition and how his experiences in nature led him to explore Celtic wisdom. Newell talks about the significance of the island of Iona in the Celtic tradition and its role as a thin place where heaven and earth meet. He also emphasizes the importance of recognizing the sacredness of all things and the divine essence within every human being. Newell discusses the power of poetry and prayers in Celtic spirituality and the need to embrace wisdom from various religious traditions.TakeawaysCeltic spirituality emphasizes the sacredness of Earth and the divine essence within all beings.The island of Iona is a thin place where heaven and earth meet, and it has been a sacred site in the Celtic tradition for centuries.Celtic prayers and poetry express a deep connection to nature and the cycles of life.Recognizing the sacredness of all things challenges how we relate to Earth and every human being.Embracing religious diversity allows us to access wisdom from different traditions and deepen our spiritual understanding.John Philip Newell is a Celtic teacher and author of spirituality who calls the modern world to reawaken to the sacredness of Earth and every human being.Canadian by birth, and a citizen also of Scotland, he resides with his family in Edinburgh and works on both sides of the Atlantic. In 2016 he began the Earth & Soul initiative and teaches regularly in the United States and Canada as well as leading international pilgrimage weeks on Iona in the Western Isles of Scotland.His PhD is from the University of Edinburgh and he has authored over fifteen books, including his award-winning publication, Sacred Earth Sacred Soul. His new book, also with HarperOne, is The Great Search (August 2024), in which he looks at the great spiritual yearnings of humanity today in the context of the decline of religion as we have known it. Newell speaks of himself as ‘a wandering teacher’ following the ancient path of many lone teachers before him in the Celtic tradition, seeking the wellbeing of the world. He has been described as having ‘the heart of a Celtic bard and the mind of a Celtic scholar’, combining in his teachings the poetic and the intellectual, the head as well as the heart, and spiritual awareness as well as political and ecological concern. More about John Philip Newell can be found on his website https://www.earthandsoul.orgFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailJeff Johnson, a musician known for his Celtic-influenced music, shares his journey in music and how he was drawn to the Celtic Christian expression. He talks about his collaborations with other artists, including Phil Keaggy, and their latest album 'Spinning on a Cosmic Dime'. Jeff also reflects on the importance of wonder and the need to define oneself beyond creative achievements.Jeff Johnson’s music spans forty years of over fifty solo and collaborative releases featuring Progressive/Rock, Jazz/New Age, Contemporary Celtic and Contemplative Worship stylizations. He has collaborated with such diverse artists as Irish flutist, Brian Dunning, Jazz bassist, David Friesen, Classical vocalist, Janet Marie Chvatal and guitar virtuoso, Phil Keaggy. Most of his recordings – all self-produced and recorded – have been released on his own Ark Records/ArkMusic label which he began in 1977. He regularly leads a contemplative worship service featuring readings from the Psalms, music and silent prayer called the Selah Service at churches and retreats . He lives on Camano Island in the Pacific Northwest with his wife, Susie. Jeff's website is: https://www.arkmusic.comFind out more about Christine Sine onWalking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine and Tom Sine discuss their passion for Celtic spirituality and its impact on their lives. They share their personal experiences with the Celtic tradition, including visits to Holy Island and Iona, and their love for the presence of God in all aspects of life. They highlight the importance of hospitality, community, and living lightly on the earth, as well as the challenges they faced in building a Celtic-style retreat site. They emphasize the need for a more radical and whole-life faith that transcends cultural boundaries and engages with the protection and celebration of the natural world.TakeawaysCeltic spirituality is characterized by an intense sense of the presence of God in all aspects of life.Hospitality is a central aspect of Celtic spirituality, seen as opening a door to the kingdom and welcoming Jesus into their midst.The Celtic tradition emphasizes community living and a new way of relating to one another, rooted in a commitment to Jesus Christ.Living lightly on the earth and caring for the natural world is an important aspect of Celtic spirituality.A more radical and whole-life faith is needed, one that transcends cultural boundaries and engages with the protection and celebration of the natural world.Circlewood can be found here. You can e-mail Tom Sine at gmail; his address is twsineFind out more about Christine Sine on Walking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Liturgical Rebels Brian Edgar explores the concept of a playful attitude towards God and the world, emphasizing the importance of enjoying life as part of having a relationship with God. Edgar highlights the need to integrate work and play, challenging the Protestant work ethic that prioritizes productivity over creativity and imagination. He reminds us that the biblical images of the eternal kingdom of God emphasize childlike play and joy. Edgar's book, 'The God Who Plays,' offers a refreshing perspective on Christian faith and spirituality. In this conversation, Brian Edgar and Christine Sine discuss the concept of play and its significance in various aspects of life, including work and worship. They explore the idea that play is not separate from work but can be integrated into it, bringing joy and creativity. They also delve into the notion of worship as a form of play, highlighting the importance of interaction and enjoyment in our relationship with God. Additionally, they examine the idea of suffering as an opportunity for growth and the role of pain in the development of character. Overall, the conversation challenges traditional perspectives and invites listeners to embrace playfulness in all areas of life.TakeawaysBrian Edgar's career has spanned both Australia and the United States, with teaching positions and work in theology and public theology.A playful attitude towards God and the world is at the heart of Christian faith, emphasizing the enjoyment of life and a relationship with God.The Protestant work ethic, which prioritizes productivity, has often overshadowed the importance of play, creativity, and imagination.The biblical images of the eternal kingdom of God focus on childlike play and joy, challenging the notion that suffering and sacrifice are the ultimate goals of the Christian journey. Play can be integrated into work, bringing joy and creativity.Worship is a form of play, involving interaction and enjoyment in our relationship with God.Suffering can provide an opportunity for growth and character development.The concept of play challenges traditional perspectives and invites us to embrace playfulness in all areas of life.Brian Edgar is married to Barbara and they have two adult daughters, a son-in-law and two grandchildren. They live in Melbourne, Australia, and Brian is now retired. He is Professor Emeritus of Asbury Theological Seminary where he taught theology for fifteen years. Prior to that he was Director of Public Theology for the Australian Evangelical Alliance and Dean and lecturer at the Melbourne School of Theology. Amongst other writing Brian is author of a short series of three books which indicate what became his primary theological and spiritual interest:  God is Friendship: A Theology of Spirituality, Community and Society (Seedbed, 2013),  The God Who Plays: A Playful Approach to Theology and Spirituality (Wipf and Stock, 2017) which received a Merit Award in Christianity Today's Book of the Year and Laughter and the Grace of God: Restoring Laughter to its central Role in Christian Spirituality and Theology  (Wipf and Stock, 2019).  Find out more about Christine Sine on Walking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXAs an Amazon Associate Christine receives a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links. Thank you for supporting Godspace in this way

Send us Fan MailMartin Poole, author of 'Church Beyond Walls,' discusses his journey of taking spirituality out to public spaces. He shares his background as an actor and priest, and how he became dissatisfied with traditional church settings. Poole talks about his organization, Beyond, which focuses on creating public art events that provoke people to think about God. He highlights some of their projects, such as the Beach Hut Advent Calendar and the Blessing of the Surf service. Poole also offers advice for those interested in engaging in creative worship outside of traditional church settings.TakeawaysTaking spirituality out of traditional church settings can lead to meaningful and creative worship experiences.Engaging in public art events can provoke people to think about God in new and unexpected ways.Collaborating with people from different backgrounds and perspectives can enrich worship experiences and lead to new insights.Creating art installations and events in public spaces can be done with limited resources and the support of a dedicated team.Engaging in creative worship outside of traditional church settings can deepen one's faith and provide opportunities for spiritual growth.Martin Poole is currently the parish priest of St. Luke’s Prestonville in Brighton and founder of Beyond Church, an arts organisation dedicated to creating innovative arts and spirituality events and conferences www.beyondchurch.co.uk.  For most of his working life he’s been a creative TV producer, travelling around the world creating brand identities and promotion campaigns for TV channels. He worked with a wide variety of clients including the BBC, SKY, ITV and Disney eventually becoming a communications strategist specialising in branding, marketing and promotion for media.  He’s also been an actor, butler, construction worker, receptionist, cleaner, youth volunteer and chaplain as well as a husband and father.  As the founder of Beyond he has initiated and curated hundreds of public art events on the seafront, in parks, in pubs and theatres and is the inventor of the Beach Hut Advent Calendar which ran for 11 years along Hove promenade.He recently authored a book, Church Beyond Walls which is a description of the creation and production of some of these art events and the personal stories of those who became involved in them and their experiences of the divine through the wonders of art.Find out more about Christine Sine on Walking In Wonder on Substackand on her website GodspacelightAnd on social media:InstagramFacebookXNOTE: As an Amazon Associate I receive a small amount for purchases made through appropriate links above. All proceeds go towards the costs of this podcast. 

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine interviews Kathy Escobar, the author of 'Faith Shift,' about her book and the impact it has had on readers. They discuss the process of faith deconstruction and reconstruction, as well as Kathy's own journey of reimagining her faith. They talk about the unique community and church experience at The Refuge, which Kathy cofounded. She shares how the community has evolved and the challenges and joys of maintaining a diverse and growing community. They also touch on Kathy's involvement in Community Heals and the work they do in creating spaces for transformation. Kathy Escobar discusses the importance of accessibility and community in healing, as well as her experience walking the Camino de Santiago. She opens up about the devastating loss of her son and the lessons she has learned about grief and making meaning. Kathy emphasizes the need to talk openly about death. She concludes by mentioning her upcoming book, 'Turning Over Tables: Lent, Power, and a Weary World.'Takeaways'Faith Shift' is a book that explores the process of faith deconstruction and reconstruction, providing language and support for those going through this journey.Reimagining faith is an ongoing process of unraveling and reimagination, with core values of freedom, mystery, and diversity.The Refuge is a unique community and church experience that focuses on healing, social action, and creative collaboration, with shared values rather than shared beliefs.Maintaining a diverse and growing community requires ongoing commitment to growth, health, and resourcing.Community Heals cofounded by Kathy is a nonprofit organization that creates spaces for transformation, including Beauty Heals, a property for rest and renewal, and Presence Heals, offering spiritual direction and holding space for individuals. Healing should be accessible to everyone, regardless of their resources or background.Grief has no rules, and it is important to honor the rhythms of grief and make meaning out of loss.Talking openly about death is crucial for healing and supporting those who have experienced loss.Kathy Escobar has a new book coming out called 'Turning Over Tables: Lent, Power, and a Weary World.Kathy Escobar is Co-Founder and Community Cultivator at The Refuge, a hub for healing community, social action, and creative collaboration in North Denver. She’s a pastor, spiritual director, speaker, advocate, and author of several books including Practicing: Changing Yourself to Change the World and Faith Shift: Finding Your Way Forward When Everything You Believe is Coming Apart. She’s also Co-Founder of #communityheals, a non-profit organization dedicated to creating accessible experiences on the water and in the mountains for all ages. More at kathyescobar.com.Find out more about Christine Sine on Walking In Wonder on Substackand on her website Godspacelight And on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailKelly Latimore, an iconographer, discusses his approach to iconography and the power of using art to address uncomfortable subjects. He combines classic Orthodox iconography with figures representing the marginalized and oppressed and believes icons to be windows to God and reflections of the image of God within us. Kelly and Christine discuss how his spirituality shifted from transcendence to engagement and embodiment through his experiences on a farm and working with the homeless. Latimore also discusses the response he has received from traditional iconographers and the importance of creating art that challenges and creates dialogue.TakeawaysArt, specifically icons, can be a powerful tool for addressing uncomfortable subjects and representing the marginalized and oppressed.Icons serve as windows to God and reflections of the image of God within us.Creating art that challenges traditional norms and creates dialogue is important for fostering change.Observing and contemplating artwork in community can lead to profound experiences and new ways of seeing God.The purpose of church art is to teach us how to observe and be still, fostering a deeper connection with God.Kelly Latimore is an artist and iconographer from St. Louis, MO. He started painting icons in 2010 while a member of the Common Friars, a small monastic farming community in Athens, Ohio. Latimore’s icons often mix classic orthodox iconographic imagery with figures representing the marginalized and the oppressed among us here and now. Latimore’s icon “Refugees: La Sagra­da Familia,” in which the flight to Egypt is interpreted as Latinx immigrants crossing the desert, adorns the cover of Pope Francis’s book “A Stranger and You Welcomed Me.” Latimore has also created a diverse array of icons of unexpected saints such as poet Mary Oliver, author James Baldwin, and TV host Mr. Rogers.Find out more on his website: https://kellylatimoreicons.com/Or join him on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kellylatimoreicons/Find out more about Christine Sine on Walking In Wonder on Substackand on her website Godspacelight And on social media:InstagramFacebookX

Send us Fan MailNaomi Lawrence, a fiber artist known for her yarn bombing installations, shares her journey and the impact of her art on communities. She started yarn bombing in 2012 and has since brought joy and light to dark places through her crochet creations. Yarn bombing is a form of street art where objects in public spaces are covered with knitted or crocheted pieces. Naomi's installations have evolved from guerrilla knitting to commissioned site-specific projects, often bringing together communities to create the artwork. She shares positive responses from people who have been touched by her installations, including stories of hope and transformation. Naomi's faith plays a significant role in her art, as she sees it as a way to show love, bring beauty, and make the world a better place. She is part of Inner Change, a Christian order that focuses on living out their faith in their contexts. Naomi's artwork is a reflection of her identity and brings her immense satisfaction and joy.00:00Introduction and Reconnecting03:07Discovering Yarn Bombing and Bringing Light to Dark Places07:55Yarn Bombing as a Form of Street Art12:59Faith and the Role of Art in Naomi's Life24:55Community and Support for Naomi's ArtNaomi Lawrence is a NYC Fiber Artist based in Harlem, NYC. She works with acrylic yarn to create oversized 2-Dimensional crochet flowers, trees and wildlife. The site-specific installations are sewn onto chain-link fences in parks and public spaces.Originally from England, UK she studied Floral Design at the University of Arts London and worked as a freelance events florist for some of Londons top floral designers.Her first installation created in 2014, Blue Iris endeared her to the community that she now calls home. Her installations take a few months to create but are generally approved by the city to stay in place for up to one year. They are often washed and refurbished to be reinstalled in various locations such as school playgrounds. Public engagement is a primary goal of each installation. The works become part of the urban landscape.You can contact Naomi at https://naomilawrence.com/ or https://www.instagram.com/naomilawrence.art/ or https://www.patreon.com/NaomiRAG

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Liturgical Rebels, Christine Sine and Forrest Inslee interview Brian McLaren.A former English professor, Brian D. McLaren was a pastor for twenty-four years. Now he’s an author, activist, public theologian, and popular public speaker. His work has been covered in TIME Magazine, Newsweek, USA Today, The New York Times, Washington Post, and CNN. The author of more than 15 books, including Faith After Doubt, Do I Stay Christian? and A New Kind of Christian, he is a faculty member of The Living School at the Center for Action and Contemplation.As we look back at 2023 it seems the year was full of wars and mass-shootings, massive floods and unprecedented heat waves. No wonder we all feel an “un-peaceful, uneasy, unwanted feeling” every time we watch the news and end up doom scrolling every time we go online. For Brian D. McLaren, doom is the emotional and intellectual experience shared by all who realize the dangerous future into which we are presently plunging ourselves, our descendants, and our fellow creatures. So, in the face of that dangerous future, what do we do?Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart is an attempt to provide a path for all of us, whatever our backgrounds, to process our feelings of doom and let them become fuel for wise and courageous action.  Blending insights from philosophers, poets, scientists, and theologians, Life After Doom explores the complexity of hope, the necessity of grief, and the need for new ways of thinking, becoming, and belonging in turbulent times. This book is for those who want to help themselves, their families, and their communities to find courage and resilience for the deeply challenging times that are upon us.You can find Brian's blog, social media links, and contact information on his website, brianmclaren.net

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Tony shares his journey from being a pastor in the Emerging Church Network to finding solace and connection with God in the wilderness.  Tony emphasizes the importance of nature in spiritual experiences and how it can be a place to interact with God. He explores the presence of death in life from composting and gardening to hunting. The conversation explores the paradox of valuing animals and of hunting and eating them, the responsibility humans have for the death of animals, and the need for honesty about animal deaths. The conversation concludes with a discussion on mortality and the focus on living the best life in the present. Tony Jones is the author of The God of Wild Places and contributing writer to several outdoors periodicals. He’s written a dozen books, including Did God Kill Jesus? and The Sacred Way: Spiritual Practices for Everyday Life, developed the iPhone app, hosts the Reverend Hunter Podcast, and teaches at Fuller Theological Seminary and The Loft Literary Center. He writes a weekly newsletter on Substack.  He holds an A.B. from Dartmouth College, an M.Div. from Fuller Theological Seminary, and a Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary. ----TakeawaysTony's journey from being a pastor in the Emerging Church Network to finding solace and connection with God in the wildernessThe challenges and advantages of being an Enneagram 8The importance of nature in spiritual experiences and connecting with GodThe metaphor of composting for the cycle of life and the interconnectedness of all creation.Humans are responsible for the death of animals, whether we eat meat or not, and it is important to be honest about our choices.Respecting and caring for creation is an important aspect of our relationship with the natural world.Focusing on living the best life in the present and embracing our mortality can lead to a deeper appreciation for life and the world around us.----Contact Information for Tony JonesEmail: [email protected] phone: 612-597-0441Website: ReverendHunter.comFacebook: facebook.com/jonestonyTwitter: @jonestonyInstagram: @TheReverendHunter

Send us Fan MailIn this conversation, Christine Sine interviews Shane Claiborne, a Christian activist and author, about his journey and his work in advocating for social justice. They discuss topics such as community living, gun violence, the death penalty, and the ongoing conflict in Gaza. Shane shares his experiences and insights, highlighting the importance of love, nonviolence, and solidarity with marginalized communities. The conversation culminates in a discussion about the recent pilgrimage walk and protest at Lockheed Martin, a major weapons contractor.TakeawaysLiving in community can provide a foundation for radical activism and social justice work.Gun violence, the death penalty, and militarism are issues that Christians should care about and work to address.The ongoing conflict in Gaza is a deeply spiritual and humanitarian crisis that requires attention and action.Transforming weapons of violence into tools of life and love is a powerful symbol of hope and transformation.Becoming a parent can deepen one's commitment to justice and inspire a vision of a better world for future generations.Shane Claiborne is a best-selling author, renowned activist, sought-after speaker, and self-proclaimed “recovering sinner.” He is the co-founder with Tony Campolo of Red Letter Christians redletterchristians.org   Shane writes and speaks around the world about peacemaking, social justice, and Jesus, and is the author of several books, including "The Irresistible Revolution," "Jesus for President," "Executing Grace," "Beating Guns," and his newest book, "Rethinking Life (released in Feb 2023)." He is the visionary leader of The Simple Way in Philadelphia and co-director of Red Letter Christians. His work has been featured in Fox News, Esquire, SPIN, TIME, the Wall Street Journal, NPR, and CNN.