Moving Offline Podcast

In this episode of Moving Offline, I talk to Afreka and Jack from Dumb Co, a group building a modified dumbphone designed to help people break away from smartphone distractions and reclaim their time. We dive into their personal stories, what inspired them to go “dumb,” and how their initiatives like Dumb House and Month Offline are creating a movement around digital minimalism and real-world connection.Afreka and Jack share how using a flip phone changed their relationships with technology, the challenges users face, and why their mission keeps them focused and growing.If you’re curious about living more offline, want tips for making the leap, or just want to hear what it feels like to ditch your smartphone, you’ll want to tune in!Linkshttps://dumb.co/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/04/month-offline-smartphone-detox/686911/ Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

As dumbphones surge in popularity, skeptics are asking: Is this a sustainable lifestyle or just a fleeting digital trend? Is swapping your smartphone actually effective at reducing screen time and improving well-being?In this episode, we move past the anecdotes and look at the data. We dive into a recent Stanford University study that provides scientific clarity on the "minimal phone" movement. I break down the three evidence-based reasons why these devices successfully reshape our behavior and share the LIGHT Framework—a practical tool you can use to reclaim your attention, whether you switch your hardware or not.The Worksheet: https://www.dumbphones.org/low-tech-life/light The Study: https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/ubkeq_v1 Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, I sit down with Ali Waseem, the creator of FOQOS, a free and open source app helping people regain control over their smartphones—without breaking the bank.We chat about why digital minimalism shouldn’t be seen as a luxury, the philosophy behind creating free tech resources, and how community-driven development has shaped Focus into a powerful tool for 50,000+ users.Ali shares his personal journey with tech addiction, what led him to make the app open source, the surprising features inspired by user feedback, and how Foqos has improved his real-life interactions and sleep. If you’re curious about free ways to simplify your digital life and want real stories on building for community rather than profit, this conversation is a must-listen!Timestamps:00:04 — Why Ali built Foqos01:59 — Why it’s free + open source04:44 — How Foqos works10:05 — Ali’s transformation17:18 — Reducing tech dependency20:01 — AI + future of tech24:57 — Final thoughtsTry It Out:If you’re on iOS and looking for a free way to control your phone habits, check out Foqos. Android user? Look into Switchly. If you want to go a level deep, try Apple Configurator for iOS or ADB App Control for Android to permanently remove distractions from your smartphone. Finally, you could get a dumbphone if those methods are insufficient. But try finding a second hand one or a free one from a friend first :) Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Support the pod: https://buymeacoffee.com/jbriones95In this episode of Moving Offline, I’m sharing the five main forces I've seen that keep people from truly embracing an offline life after seven years in the digital minimalism space. I talk about how unclear priorities, the temptation of convenience, boredom phobia, social pressure, and even full-blown dependency loops secretly tie us to our phones. I offer some practical advice to help you clarify your priorities, lean into inconvenience, face boredom, resist pressure to conform, and seek support if going offline feels truly overwhelming. Thanks for tuning in—remember, it’s possible to break free and live a more intentional, present life.Timestamps:Introduction & Purpose 00:00:04–00:01:10Defining Simplicity & Priorities 00:01:11–00:02:10The Gravity of Convenience 00:02:11–00:03:55Boredomphobia 00:03:58–00:06:15Social Pressure to Conform 00:06:16–00:09:03The Dependency Loop & Recovery 00:09:03–00:11:02Closing Remarks 00:11:03–00:11:10Links:https://www.dumbphones.org/low-tech-life Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode of Moving Offline, I sit down with Thomas Barrasso, the developer behind PodLP, a podcast app made for dumbphones. We dive into why it’s tough to find your favorite apps on these minimalist devices, and Thomas shares what inspired him to build PodLP during the pandemic. We cover the challenges developers face, like small screens, keypad navigation, and platform fragmentation, and discuss why big companies aren’t rushing in.Thomas gives some inside info on what it takes to make apps work on different dumbphone platforms, and why financial incentives are still limited. We also touch on the tight-knit community around these phones, the rise of cloud-powered devices in emerging markets, and whether AI can really help speed up development.If you’re curious about trying a dumbphone, developing for one, or just want to hear how the offline movement is shaping up, this episode is for you. Don’t miss Thomas’ advice on embracing friction and finding what works for your own tech journey.Chapters:00:00 – Introduction & Guest Welcome 01:03 – How PodLP Began 02:31 – Why Developing for Dumbphones Is Hard 06:52 – Launching Apps on Dumbphones 11:17 – Why Big Platforms Ignore Dumbphones 17:55 – Can AI Accelerate Flip Phone App Development? 24:52 – Minimalism vs Maximalism: Should Dumbphones Stay “Dumb”? 28:28 – Final Thoughts & AdviceLinks:https://podlp.com/https://www.dumbphones.org/ Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, I sit with Eric Bouchard, founder of Bouchard Industries. Eric talks about his vision for the Basic Phone, a new device designed to minimize distractions while maintaining core utilities. The conversation explores the reasons behind the project, the technical and market challenges, and how the Basic Phone will differ from both traditional smartphones and existing minimalist devices.LinksKickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bouchardindustries/the-basic-phone-a-dumbphone-without-disadvantageDiscord: https://discord.gg/HVpbcddsXJVideo: https://youtu.be/XIGU01X_Eh8 Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Buy Moving Offline a CoffeeIn this episode of Moving Offline, we explore three powerful mindsets to help you reclaim your time, attention, and peace of mind in 2026. If you’ve been feeling digitally fatigued, overwhelmed by constant notifications, or stuck in an “always on” rhythm, this reflection will give you a grounded and hopeful way forward.Timestamps[00:00:26] — Introduction of three mindsets to reset your digital life[00:02:11] — Mindset 1: Choose offline first[00:04:27] — Mindset 2: Making offline memories[00:06:28] — Mindset 3: Planning offline intentionally[00:07:52] — Invitation to plan for Offline January Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Episode Summary In this episode, I unpack why most digital detoxes don’t work—and what’s helped me build a low-tech lifestyle that actually lasts. I share my own journey, from buying a Light Phone 2 in 2019 to falling back into old habits during the pandemic, and how the 1% method helped me shift from temporary detox to sustainable change. If you’ve ever felt stuck in screen time loops or discouraged by failed attempts to unplug, this one’s for you.What I Talk AboutThe science behind screen addiction and why it’s not just about willpowerMy early attempts at digital detox—and why they didn’t stickHow the 1% method works (and why it’s better than quitting cold turkey)Why a calendar became my most powerful tool for habit changeHow low-tech living spilled into my finances, relationships, and sense of purposeA funny story about traveling through Colorado with $5 and no physical credit cardFavorite Quotes from the Episode“Detoxing is like crash dieting for your attention span: intense, unsustainable, and often followed by relapse.” “You’re not escaping your phone—you’re choosing something more fulfilling to do with your time.” “If it’s not in the calendar, it doesn’t exist.” —My wifeResources MentionedAtomic Habits by James ClearErik Weihenmayer’s story of summiting the seven tallest mountainsThe Light Phone 2 and my low-tech setupThe 1% method as a framework for digital and financial changeWhy This MattersI’m not here to preach about dumbphones or shame anyone for using tech. I’m here to share what’s worked for me—and invite you to build a life that feels more like yours. It starts small. It feels slow. But it’s real.Support My WorkMoving Offline is a reader-supported publication. If this episode resonated with you, consider subscribing or sharing it with someone who’s ready to make a 1% shift. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:Buy Moving Offline a CoffeeSubscribe to Moving OfflineArticle Link: https://josebriones.substack.com/p/back-to-school-with-a-dumbphoneThis school year, smartphones are being sidelined in classrooms, and I’m here for it. In this episode, I reflect on what this shift means for students, families, and our culture at large. I share personal stories, offer tips for modeling tech boundaries at home, and recommend devices that support intentional living. It’s a chance to rethink what it means to feel alive without a screen in hand. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:* Buy Moving Offline a Coffee* Subscribe to Moving OfflineWelcome back to Moving Offline. Today I’m joined by Richard Simon—author of Unplug: How to Break Up With Your Phone and Reclaim Your Life. We’re diving into a challenge that so many of us quietly wrestle with: what would it really look like to turn off our devices and live offline?Richard spent an entire year without a smartphone, and in this episode, he shares the surprising, sometimes uncomfortable, but ultimately life-giving lessons he learned along the way. We talk about his “off by default” philosophy, what it takes to face digital withdrawal head-on, and how to rebuild a life centered on real connection and intentional living.We also get personal about boundaries: how to set them for ourselves and our families, and we offer practical steps for anyone ready to reclaim their time and attention in a world that’s always on.If you’ve been thinking about trying a dumbphone, reimagining your digital habits, or just craving space to breathe, this conversation is for you. Grab your drink of choice, and let’s unpack what it means to truly move offline.Timestamps00:00 Off By Default: A Year Unplugged03:11 Navigating 'Off by Default' Fears07:07 Smartphone Use: Off by Default09:41 Balancing Convenience and Simplicity13:20 Balancing Family Time and Technology19:26 Offline Rooms for Digital Balance20:47 Smartphones Banned for Team Synergy24:11 Year Unnoticed: Digital Disconnect28:45 Embracing Connectivity Over Isolation32:49 Ritualize News Consumption Daily37:00 Pursuing a Serene Life38:14 Support and Share PodcastLinks for todayGet the book here —> Unplug: How to Break Up With Your Phone and Reclaim Your Life.Moving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:* Buy Moving Offline a Coffee* Subscribe to Moving OfflineIn this episode, I sit down with UK musician and filmmaker Tim Arnold to talk about his shift from smartphones to "dumb phones" and how technology influences creativity and human connection. We explore the evolution of music—from cassette tapes to streaming—and dive into his multimedia project Super Connected, which examines our screen-driven world.Timestamps00:00 Artists' Tech Tug-Of-War03:59 Journey from DIY to Professional Recording07:25 Creative Challenges in a Digital Era11:20 Screen Addiction: A Teen's Struggle16:06 Art, Autism, and Social Media Challenges19:24 Offline Experiences Matter23:46 Super Connected" Needs Group Viewing26:26 Light Phone as Kids' First Phone31:27 Exploring Self in a Digital Age33:42 Balanced Technology UseLinkshttps://timarnold.co.uk/https://superconnected.technology/Moving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:Buy Moving Offline a CoffeeSubscribe to Moving OfflineListen in as we dive into the four mindset shifts—clarity, curiosity, choice, and contentment—that transform digital minimalism from a temporary fix into a lifelong approach to living intentionally. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:* Buy Moving Offline a Coffee* Subscribe to Moving OfflineWelcome back to Moving Offline! In this episode, I sit down with Henry Fisher, privacy advocate and founder of Techlore, to explore the intersection of digital minimalism, privacy, and security.Together, they break down the real reasons we should care about protecting our data. Henry shares his decade-long journey helping people reclaim their digital rights and digests complex privacy terms like end-to-end encryption into practical, everyday advice. Whether you’re curious about using dumb phones, or want tips to stop being tracked online,this conversation is packed with actionable insights and relatable analogies.Timestamps00:00 Privacy Concerns: Corporate and Government Surveillance03:49 Enhancing Privacy and Security Tips09:31 Dumb Phones: Privacy vs. Vulnerability11:53 Bluetooth Security Awareness14:52 Enhancing Privacy with Ad Blockers18:22 Streamlined Device Management Benefits20:14 Comprehensive Privacy Resource HubLinkshttps://techlore.techhttps://discuss.techlore.techhttps://mullvad.net/enhttps://ublockorigin.com/https://brave.com/https://lineageos.org/https://forum.dumbphones.org/Moving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:* Buy Moving Offline a Coffee* Subscribe to Moving OfflineIn this episode of Moving Offline, I sit down with memory expert and champion Tansel Ali to unpack the secrets of keeping our minds sharp in a world flooded with technology. We explore how smartphones have changed our relationship with memory, practical strategies anyone can use to maintain mental clarity, and the importance of intentional technology use.Tansel shares insights from the world of memory athletes, reveals why storytelling is key to remembering anything, and offers actionable advice on reducing overwhelm and finding focus in daily life. Whether you're struggling with information overload or just looking to boost your brainpower, this conversation will inspire you to take back control of your attention and live more intentionally.Timestamps00:00 Enhancing Life Through Memory & Tech06:14 Digital Overload and Intentional Tech07:09 Managing Information Overload in Digital Age13:17 Focus and Techno-Minimalism for Clarity14:15 Smartphone Overuse and Mindfulness17:41 Understanding Value Through Context21:18 Fear of Boredom Blocks Creativity24:10 Mindful Multitasking and Energy Balance27:18 Gratitude and Podcast FarewellLinksTansel’s YouTube ChannelTansel’s WebsiteMoving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:* Buy Moving Offline a Coffee* Subscribe to Moving OfflineIn this episode, I sit down with Christopher Sciullo to talk about family digital wellness. As a father of four, Chris shares his experiences in balancing technology use in family life while ensuring physical and mental well-being. He offers practical strategies for parents to guide children towards healthy digital habits and to prioritize offline activities. We explore ways to achieve a tech-life balance that helps families thrive in today’s digital age while preserving meaningful offline memories. Hope you enjoy it! Linkshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/christophersciullo/Timestamps00:00 Navigating Family Digital Wellness06:00 Prioritizing Offline Childhood Experiences10:02 Balancing App Use with Real Life13:52 Digital Balance for Family Time16:34 Mindful Tech Use for Parents20:40 ConclusionMoving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:* Buy Moving Offline a Coffee* Subscribe to Moving OfflineIn today's episode of Moving Offline, we delve into the critical topic of why parents should delay giving smartphones to their children. I'm joined by guest expert Hannah Oertel , and together we explore the extensive evidence highlighting the potential harms of early smartphone and social media exposure, especially for children.Hannah shares insights into the alarming impacts on physical health, such as spinal and eyesight problems, as well as mental health issues like increased anxiety and exposure to harmful content. She emphasizes the importance of gradually introducing technology, using simpler devices as stepping stones before finally allowing access to smartphones.Tune in to learn more about how you can support your child's healthy development in a tech-saturated world.Linkshttps://delaysmartphones.org.uk/Timestamps00:00 Gradual Tech Introduction for Kids05:50 Digital Impact on Children's Health07:40 Impact of Violent Porn on Youth11:25 Disconnect for Quality Family Time15:05 Resisting Peer Pressure in Parenting18:10 Navigating Tech's Impact on Children20:23 Parental Concerns on Kids' Smartphone Use25:32 Overprotective Parenting Concerns28:15 Cherish Time with ChildrenMoving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:* Buy Moving Offline a Coffee* Subscribe to Moving OfflineEsta entrevista esta disponible en Español. Welcome to Moving Offline! Today, we dive into the world of digital minimalism with the founders of The Balance Phone, Albert and Carlos. Discover how they're revolutionizing the mobile phone market by designing a device that focuses purely on essential functions while eliminating distractions like social media, streaming services, and more. We'll explore who this phone is for, how it works, and the principles guiding their decisions on allowed apps. Whether you're a digital minimalist or a parent seeking a safer first phone for your child, this episode offers a lot of insights for the journey. Timestamps00:00 Smartphone Simplicity Meets Functionality05:19 Digital Minimalist Phone Appeal09:30 App Blacklisting Strategy Overview10:39 Content Blocking Strategy Explained14:16 Screen Time, Revenue, and Power Struggle20:11 Community-Driven Project AppreciationLinkshttps://www.thebalancephone.com/Moving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:* Buy Moving Offline a Coffee* Subscribe to Moving OfflineThis interview is available in English as well. ¡Bienvenidos a Moving Offline! Hoy nos sumergimos en el mundo del minimalismo digital con los fundadores de The Balance Phone, Albert y Carlos. Descubre cómo están revolucionando el mercado de los teléfonos móviles diseñando un dispositivo que se centra únicamente en funciones esenciales, eliminando distracciones como las redes sociales, los servicios de streaming y más.Exploraremos para quién es este teléfono, cómo funciona y los principios que guían sus decisiones sobre las aplicaciones permitidas. Ya seas un minimalista digital o un padre en busca de un primer teléfono más seguro para tu hijo, este episodio ofrece muchas ideas valiosas para tu camino.Linkshttps://www.thebalancephone.com/Moving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Two ways to support Moving Offline:https://josebriones.substack.com/subscribehttps://buymeacoffee.com/jbriones95IntroductionIn this episode, I chat with Timothy Casey from Sunbeam Wireless, a company dedicated to creating distraction-free, yet productive, dumb phones. Timothy shares the philosophy behind Sunbeam, the importance of mindful tech use, and exciting developments on the horizon.Listen in to learn how these simple devices can transform your daily habits and relationships. Don't forget to like, share, and rate us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Join us in moving offline!Timestamps00:00 Optimizing Android for Flip Phones06:23 Digital Minimalism Boosts Focus09:33 Sunbeam's Simplified Text-Only Email11:23 Less is More in Dumb Devices17:19 Switching to Dumb Phone Encouragement18:19 Concluding Thoughts Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

IntroductionIn this episode of Moving Offline, I had the pleasure of chatting with Ilya Kneppelhout, the founder of The Offline club. We dove into the significance of community in fostering human connections away from the lure of digital devices.Ilya shared his journey in creating spaces where people unplug, reconnect with themselves, and engage in genuine interactions. From offline weekend retreats to cozy cafe hangouts, he detailed the experiences of participants and the broader philosophical motivations behind the offline movement. Join us as we explore how embracing offline moments can mend the social fabric and improve mental well-being.Timestamps00:00 Accessible Digital Detox Space03:28 Offline Retreats & Hangouts08:01 Offline Club: Community and Connection12:10 Offline Lifestyle Experience Tips14:42 Offline Community Building Tips17:52 Valuable Entrepreneurship and Sold-Out Events21:44 Offline Social Gatherings MovementLinks for TodayOffline Club websiteOffline Connection Deck (only ships to the EU). Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

IntroductionIn this episode of Moving Offline, we have a fascinating conversation with Amber Case, a leading figure from the Calm Tech Institute. Amber dives into the concept of Calm Technology, reflecting on her unique tech-rich upbringing, the inspiration she drew from Star Trek, and her collegiate revelations about technology's impact on our attention.She examines how modern gadgets disrupt natural interactions and provides valuable insights into designing unobtrusive technologies that enhance, rather than interfere with, human experiences. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion on seamlessly integrating technology into our lives.Timestamps00:00 Calm Technology explores impact on human attention.04:38 Thesis on iPhone adoption, behavioral changes observed.10:09 Digital shift diminishes tactile interaction, emphasizes consumption.13:35 Road trips inspire reflection on life's purpose.16:40 Calm Tech prioritizes seamless human-device interaction.19:45 Balancing technology usability with mindful interaction.21:39 Training, metacognition, addiction, digital habits, self-reflection.27:00 Screen height affects interaction with information significantly.31:06 Calm Tech Certified enhances company image through certification.31:57 How product design impacts attention and usability.36:39 Great unnoticed tech: design invisible, seamless experiences. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

IntroductionHello again everyone! In this episode, I'm thrilled to chat with Joel Butler from Before Labs. Ever wondered how a minimalist app can transform your daily routine? Joel shares the magic behind Before Launcher, a tool designed to strip away distractions and help you find peace in the chaos of modern life.Timestamps 00:00 Text-based formats help reduce phone engagement.03:47 Icons efficiently prompt user engagement on devices.08:12 Optional notifications, prioritize important ones, simplify home screen.10:55 Before Launcher reduces screen time via notifications.16:51 Start with small steps to restore attention.18:39 Focusing on digital wellness, screen time, onboarding.21:43 Limit phone use, embrace productivity habits.24:33 Try our Android launcher via Google Play. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

IntroductionWelcome back to another episode of "Podcast Moving Offline"! Today, we are thrilled to have Arne Mathiasen from Dumbphone.dk join us. Arne has been making waves in the realm of intentional tech use, particularly focusing on the benefits of switching to dumb phones and guiding children away from digital distractions. Arne shares his journey, starting from a personal switch to a feature phone, to now running experiments in schools where kids temporarily adopt dumb phones. He delves into the challenges and rewards of this shift, explaining how it fosters better sleep, improved social interactions, and a more intentional tech lifestyle. We also tackle how parents can collectively delay the introduction of smartphones to their children's lives, creating a more balanced digital upbringing. Dive in as we explore how to regain control in an increasingly tech-heavy world, and learn practical steps to enhance your well-being by moving offline. Thanks for reading Moving Offline! This post is public so feel free to share it.Timestamps00:00 Smartphones' necessity contrasts with leave-able mini tablets.04:44 Encourage students to use dumb phones together.07:45 Choose simple changes: Smartphone to dumb phone, tablet.10:50 Less smartphone use improves sleep and morning routines.14:49 Act early: Cooperate to delay smartphones' introduction.19:02 Silicon Valley's digital detox trend garners interest.22:47 Introducing new ideas for parenting with technology.Moving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

DescriptionIn today’s episode of Moving Offline, Laura Malvoyante, a digital minimalist from France, shares how her diagnosis of ADOA (autumnal dominant optic atrophy) led her to reconsider her relationship with technology and adopt a digital minimalist lifestyle. We discuss the challenges and triumphs she has faced, including quitting her job, rediscovering hobbies, and the emotional impact of her condition. Laura also offers valuable advice for those starting their own digital minimalism journey and emphasizes the importance of intentional technology use. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that highlights the necessity of living life purposefully, even in the face of physical challenges.Timestamps00:00 Vision issues led to digital minimalism lifestyle.05:19 Embracing content creation with limited vision, intentionally.09:54 Health journey prompted rediscovery of life's joys.13:37 Age affects digital curiosity and technology use.15:01 Lifestyle changes can be difficult and inaccessible.18:09 Sustainable lifestyle changes require small, intentional steps.23:12 Experience life firsthand; avoid digital distractions.LinksLaura’s website: https://www.lauramalvoyante.com/Laura’s YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LauraMalvoyanteSleke Phone: https://www.sleke.io/Moving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

IntroductionWelcome back to another episode of Moving Offline! Today, we have a fascinating discussion lined up with Eli Samuel, founder of KosherOS and Safe Telecom. Eli's journey began in rabbinical school, where he saw a need for technology that aligns with a simpler, more intentional lifestyle free from excessive tech dependency. KosherOS is a custom Android operating system designed to be secure, protected, and devoid of distractions like web browsing. Eli shares his personal story, the philosophy behind KosherOS, and how his company balances high-tech innovation with mindful usage. Tune in as we delve into how intentional tech choices can profoundly impact your life, family, and community. Don't miss this insightful conversation that might just inspire you to rethink your relationship with technology!Timestamps00:00 Rabbinical school struggled with ineffective iPhone controls.04:41 Financial incentives drive tech companies' actions significantly.07:26 Intentional tech usage prioritizing mindfulness and moderation.10:33 Help those ready to improve; support available.13:56 Assessing app inclusion criteria for pixel devices.20:18 Willing to offer expertise for tailored solutions.21:08 Browser-free principle avoids distractions, improves focus.25:53 Mindful tech usage enriches personal and communal life.27:24 Open to partnerships; mission-driven, impact-focused company.Linkshttps://kosheros.com/Moving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

I am in the middle of developing a low tech course. It will be free of course! Check it out in the link below :) IntroductionWelcome back to another episode of "Podcast Moving Offline." Today, we have a riveting conversation lined up with Dr. Anastasia Dedyukhina, a leading figure in digital well-being and the founder of Consciously Digital. Anastasia (https://www.anastasiadedyukhina.com), a former high-level digital marketer in London, profoundly transformed her life and career after experiencing firsthand the adverse effects of excessive technology use, including constant email checking and social media scrolling.In this episode, Anastasia shares her journey of living smartphone-free for 1.5 years, which significantly boosted her productivity and creativity. She discusses her transition from digital marketing to becoming a coach focused on digital minimalism and well-being. Anastasia delves into her 5-step detox program and 9-month certification course, emphasizing the importance of understanding personal values and goals over mere behavioral tricks.Key Takeaways:🎙 Guest Introduction Dr. Anastasia Dedyukhina, a former high-level digital marketing professional, now leads Consciously Digital. She’s a TEDx speaker and the author of "Homo Distractus," bringing a wealth of knowledge in combating digital distraction.📚 Career Transition and Coaching Her foray into digital minimalism started during her smartphone hiatus, resulting in a TED talk, a book, and a popular digital well-being certification course. Especially after the Cambridge Analytica scandal, interest in her work surged.🛠️ Program Steps and Practical Steps for Digital Decluttering The 5-step detox program focuses on identifying personal values, auditing current habits, and tackling easy fixes such as keeping your phone out of the bedroom. She emphasizes that deeper emotional needs often underlie technology overuse.🧠 Reteaching the Brain Learn about techniques to improve focus and mental clarity, including the '4 points' focus exercise and simple daily actions like reading a page from a book. She also stresses the importance of physical and digital space organization.🎯 5-Day Attention Detox Challenge Kickstart your digital well-being journey with a focused challenge from December 1st to 5th, 2024. Visit consciously-digital.com/5dc for more details.📅 Upcoming Certification Program For those interested in a deeper dive, the next digital well-being certification program starts in January 2025. More information is available at consciously-digital.com/coaches.Timestamps00:00 Smartphone addiction led to stress, quitting.05:47 Start with "why" to determine technology use.09:26 Optimize peak attention time; minimize distractions.10:22 Adopt systemic lifestyle change for habit integration.16:16 Physical limits help balance digital consumption.17:35 People should implement knowledge, not just consume.21:10 Plan ahead for success, use time wisely.24:04 Consumer's responsibility: self-informed, choose wisely for health.28:53 Declutter spaces for better mood and positivity.30:45 Listen, share, subscribe for more insightful content.Moving Offline is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode of the Moving Offline Podcast, I dive into the idea of "enough" and what it means for each of us. Social media constantly pressures us to want more—more wealth, more possessions, more success. But what if true fulfillment comes from defining what "enough" means for us individually?Tune in and discover how you can define "enough" for yourself and live your best life, offline.Resources: Low Tech Life BookI Will Teach You To Be Rich Book Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome back to Podcast Moving Offline! I'm your host, Jose Briones, and today we dive deep into my latest endeavor—a year-long project to find the perfect balance between online and offline living. Starting September 1st, I'm planning to spend half the year offline to reconnect with life's tangible joys. In this episode, I'll walk you through my strategy for achieving this balance, from planning a manageable off-grid timeline to organizing tasks and embracing fulfilling offline activities. Whether it's about spending weekends tech-free or incorporating daily offline rituals, this guide will help you design a more intentional and enriched life. Stay tuned as we explore practical tips, tools, and inspiring ideas to find your perfect offline sweet spot. Let's get started!Mailbug: https://mailbug.com/ Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome back to another episode of Moving Offline! Today, we’re diving into the fascinating world of Slow Tech with our special guest, Adam Yasmin from the slow tech podcast. Slow Tech podcast is a unique initiative to explore our relationship with technology through a more thoughtful and mindful lens. He brings a wealth of experience from his background in UX design, tea culture, and digital well-being. In this episode, we'll uncover what Slow Tech means, how Adam's journey led him to champion this concept, and what he's doing to create a community around it. Plus, we'll discuss practical ways to balance our digital and offline lives, fostering deeper human connections. Stay tuned for an enlightening conversation that just might inspire you to slow down and rethink your relationship with technology!Links: https://substack.com/@slowtechpodcast Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome back to another episode of "Moving Offline"! In today's episode, we sit down with Austin Boer and Brennan Jordan, the innovative minds behind the Sleke Phone. This groundbreaking device aims to strike the perfect balance between essential smartphone functionalities and the minimalist ethos of reducing distractions.Austin and Brennan share their journey from meeting in college to living abroad, where they recognized the need for a device that allows users to stay connected without the constant interruptions typical of modern smartphones. They delve into the design principles of the Sleke Phone, highlighting its core features that prioritize communication, utility, and life management while eliminating unnecessary distractions like social media and endless browsing.Tune in to learn how the Sleke Phone can serve as a powerful tool for those looking to simplify their digital lives, and hear about the thoughtful process behind its development, including community feedback and iterative improvements. Links: https://sleke.io and https://dumbwireless.com Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome back to another episode of “Moving Offline." Today, we dive deep into the world of digital minimalism with a special focus on combating our screen addiction, a challenge many face in our increasingly digital lives. Our guest, Max Gazeroglu, developer of Password Locker, joins us to discuss how his product can help many regain control over their device usage by creating substantial barriers to addictive apps and functions.Max shares his journey from being overwhelmed by digital distractions to developing a system that effectively locks away access to time-wasting apps through a unique, friction-filled process. From the tale of his personal challenges to the evolution of Password Locker, Max provides insight into the psychological underpinnings of our tech habits and offers a perspective on how to achieve a more balanced digital life. Whether you struggle with managing screen time or looking for ways to support your digital well-being, I hope this episode helps you in the moving offline journey.Takeaways* Utility of Password Locker: Max shared how Password Locker provides a robust solution to blocking digital distractions with fewer options for a workaround. This tool increases the 'friction' required to access distracting apps or websites with their puzzle system, making mindless browsing less tempting.* Balancing Tech with Lifestyle: While tools like Password Locker are beneficial, the conversation underscored the importance of integrating these solutions within a lifestyle that promotes the conscious use of technology. The goal isn't just to reduce screen time, but to enhance life quality and focus on personal priorities.* Other apps that can help: While password locker is just one tool to use, think about integrating it with other services like Cold Turkey, Brick, ClearSpace, OneSec, or Unpluq. Maybe having both will yield better results than a single point of failure. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome to a new episode of "Moving Offline," where we chat with fascinating guests about their journey towards a more intentional and offline lifestyle. Today, I'm excited to introduce Spencer Campbell, the man behind the channel "Spencer's Adventures." Spencer dives into his minimalist lifestyle, his reliance on dumb phones, and his overall pursuit of simplicity in the digital age. Join us as we delve into Spencer's transformative experiences, from his strategies for balancing technology with real-life engagement to his insights on achieving financial independence and living with purpose. This episode is sure to spark inspiration and challenge you to reconsider how you engage with the digital world and how to harness it to enhance your life. Tune in to discover all about Spencer's adventures and his thoughtful approach to living a more intentional, less distracted life.Spencer's Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@spencers-adventures Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

I'm thrilled to share our latest episode titled "Scrolling Sanely,” where I had an incredible conversation with Carmella Guiol from SCROLL SANITY . Together, we delved deep into her journey of digital minimalism, parenting, and personal well-being.In this enlightening discussion, Carmella provided some profound insights into the importance of cutting back on digital clutter, especially in the context of children's neurological development. We explored why hands-on activities hold immense value in today's screen-dominated society and how they contribute to holistic growth.One of the highlights was Carmella's personal journey, transitioning from traditional smartphones to embracing the minimalist Light Phone. Through her experience, we uncovered the profound power of presence and intentional living. Whether you're a parent navigating the complexities of the digital landscape or simply seeking fulfillment beyond the online realm, this episode is packed with valuable insights and wisdom. Join us on Moving Offline as we embark on a journey of intentional living and learn to treasure our attention and time.Time Stamps00:00 Embracing smartphones, resisting internet, and writing journey.03:46 School provided structure, job offers more variables.06:30 Struggle with phone addiction affects parenting decisions.09:53 Digital engagement can shape kids' neurological pathways.13:18 Minimize phone use at home, except camera.18:55 Struggling to navigate familiar city, even with signs.19:40 Being more present and attentive is beneficial.24:15 Balancing online and offline life as content creator.27:36 Quality writing over social media popularity; persistence.31:35 Scrolling not self-care, find satisfying activities. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome to Moving Offline, the podcast where we explore intentional disconnection from the digital world and embrace real-life experiences. In today's episode, we delve into the reasons why I choose not to drink alcohol, and how this decision parallels with my choice to live a low-tech lifestyle. Using alcohol as a proxy for the real topic, I hope to draw compelling comparisons between the cost, escapism, and addictive nature of alcohol with that of smartphones. Join me as we uncover thought-provoking insights and examine the societal implications of excessive alcohol consumption and smartphone usage. It's a deep dive into the parallels between alcohol and technology, and you won't want to miss it. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

DescriptionIn this episode, Owen delves into how he's been conquering the voids once filled with the glare of a screen by shedding light on his experiences over the past two years with the Light Phone 2—a device designed to downgrade our digital consumption. He reflects on the surprisingly minimal impact that stepping back from social media has had on his career and personal life, going as far as to eliminate platforms like Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter from his routine.As a former marketing manager, Owen shares the unexpected encouragement he received from peers and the positive interactions spawned by his simpler communication approach. He makes a compelling case for re-evaluating our relationship with our devices, discussing the boundaries he's set in place—not just for himself, but extending these practices to his family life, thereby influencing his children's interactions with technology.Hope you enjoy this conversationTimestamps00:00 Social media's impact, experience, and tech culture.05:59 Marketing manager, using various communication platforms. Positive reactions.09:09 Setting boundaries with technology and prioritizing connections.12:55 Leverage referrals and connections, minimal social media.16:10 Striving for intentionality in habits and entertainment.19:57 Getting rid of smartphone, but may use occasionally.24:44 Kids influenced by parents' tech choices.27:39 Delaying technology introduction fosters problem-solving skills.29:31 Funny YouTube name, connect with me! Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

DescriptionIn this episode of Moving Offline, I delve into the story of Andrew Feinstein, a YouTuber and content creator who took on the challenge of living without a phone for 30 days. I sit down with Andrew as he shares the emotional rollercoaster of his offline journey. From navigating international travel to facing unexpected emotional challenges, Andrew takes us through his highs and lows of disconnecting from the digital world. Join us as we explore the profound impact of this experience on my relationships, work, and personal growth. Plus, stay tuned for valuable insights as Andrew reveals his plans for integrating technology back into my life while maintaining a balance. It's an episode full of self-discovery, introspection, and the pursuit of a more meaningful offline life.Timestamps00:00 Smart device essential for content creation and work.03:28 Friction points, minor inconveniences, but overall manageable.09:24 Feeling alienated led to growth and self-discovery.12:28 Struggling with phone addiction, sleep, and balance.13:30 Getting rid of the phone led to self-discovery.19:44 Removing distractions, locking phone in a box.22:29 Phone usage challenges, recommendations, and YouTube presence.LinksAndrew’s YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewfeinstein_Amazon Phone Lockbox: https://amzn.to/4bE5U30 Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode of Moving Offline, I take you on a fascinating journey into the world of creating a "dumbphone" with Ari Greenfeld, the mastermind behind the Mindful Phone. Ari shares his unique experience growing up in the Orthodox Jewish community and how it inspired him to develop a phone tailored to a specific niche. From manufacturing MP3 players to customizing basic phones, Ari provides insights into the intricate process of design, development, and overcoming challenges. Discover the profound impact of minimalistic technology on his personal life and the increasing demand for devices that prioritize mindfulness and reduce distractions. Join us as we delve into the mindset behind the Mindful Phone and the captivating story of its creation.Timestamps00:00 In 2018, started making MP3 players due to love for tech and niche community.05:29 Creating the best phone requires balancing specs and costs, then finding a factory.09:46 Phone calls work, not well protected, pushed for source code, customized OS for security, ongoing updates and bug fixes.13:52 Use a basic phone and smartphone for faster communication through WhatsApp. Minimal social media use for professional purposes.16:21 Many feel smartphone overuse is a problem. Companies benefit from screen time. Some consider reducing phone use.18:24 Visit mindphone.co for Mind Phone or greentouchstore.com for general GreenTouch products including smartphones in four colors. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Join me in this episode as I take you on a journey into the world of automation and its profound impact on our lives. I'll be sharing my personal experiences and insights, drawing intriguing parallels between automating financial well-being and automating our digital behaviors.Explore the power of automated financial management with me as I discuss strategies for allocating income wisely, breaking free from debt, and building a secure financial future. Discover how automation can lead to financial freedom and peace of mind.But the conversation doesn't stop there. I'll also delve into the digital realm, revealing how to harness automation to regain control over our digital lives. From router automation to smartphone habits and DNS services, you'll uncover practical tips to reduce screen time, minimize distractions, and create space for offline experiences.I'll underscore the importance of striking a balance between our online and offline worlds. Learn how automation can help you prioritize cherished activities, connect with loved ones, and savor life's simple pleasures without being tethered to screens.This episode offers valuable insights and actionable strategies from my own journey for automating a more balanced and fulfilling life. Tune in now to gain a deeper understanding of automation's role in creating a life that aligns with your passions and values. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

DescriptionWelcome to another episode of Moving Offline, where we delve into the exciting world of digital disconnection and the perks of using non-smartphones. I'm Jose Briones, your host, and today I'm joined by Will from Dumbwireless. Will is here to share his personal story and insights from running a company that's all about helping people disconnect by offering non-smartphones.Will opens up about what motivated him to start Dumbwireless. He saw a gap in the market for a comprehensive service aimed at those wanting to break free from their reliance on smartphones. His own wake-up call about the negative effects of smartphone addiction was a key driver behind the company's inception. He walks us through how they select devices at Dumbwireless, focusing on customer needs and organizing in-person events to educate people about the life-changing benefits of non-smartphones.In our conversation, Will and I cover a range of topics, such as the life-enhancing impact of using non-smartphones, our personal choices in devices, and the liberating effects of stepping away from addictive tech. Will also shares heartfelt stories from customers who've seen remarkable improvements in their lives after making the switch to non-smartphones.Don't miss out on this insightful episode if you're curious about the benefits of moving offline and want to learn more about how non-smartphones can positively influence our everyday lives.Timestamps0:00:00 Creating a one-stop shop to reduce phone usage.0:06:21 Not everyone can switch to a non-smartphone.0:09:35 Startup using guerrilla marketing, online ads, and events.0:11:11 Review on smartphone options, favoring Light Phone 2.0:14:52 Seeking real connections over social media distractions.0:17:57 Disconnecting from constant entertainment leads to happiness.0:21:28 Helping customers is fulfilling and purposeful. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

IntroductionIn today's fast-paced digital world, it's easy to get caught up in the constant stream of notifications and distractions that our smartphones and devices bring. However, finding a balance between the online and offline worlds is crucial for our overall well-being. In this article, we'll explore a simple yet effective methodology I’ve found helpful over the years that can help you achieve more offline moments in your life. This approach involves three fundamental steps, along with a bonus tip, to disconnect and reconnect with the world around you.Step 1: List Your Essential Apps and ServicesThe journey to digital balance begins with identifying the apps and services that are truly essential for your daily life. Start by taking a piece of paper and numbering it from 1 to 10. These ten slots are reserved for apps or services that are not merely convenient but are crucial for your daily functioning.Consider the tools that enable you to put food on the table, stay connected with loved ones, or add value to your life. For instance, in my list, I rely on email for work communication, WhatsApp for global connections, navigation apps like maps, Libby for audiobooks, messages for quick communication, the phone for essential calls, podcasts for staying informed, music for relaxation, and the calendar for organization. These apps form the backbone of my digital life.The key here is to be selective and focus on what genuinely adds value to your daily routines. Once you've identified your essential apps and services, you're ready for the next step.Step 2: Select the Right DevicesNow that you've compiled your list of essential apps and services, it's time to determine which devices you'll use to access them. I suggest adopting a dual-device approach, consisting of a work phone and a personal phone.Your work phone should be dedicated to professional use, with only the essential work-related apps installed. This clear separation between work and personal devices helps maintain a healthy balance and reduces distractions. When you're not at work, switch to your personal phone, allowing you to enjoy a more focused and disconnected personal time.Consider which devices align best with your needs and lifestyle. If you find that smartphones are causing excessive distractions, consider opting for a basic phone paired with a dedicated music player or other specialized devices that cater to your specific requirements.Step 3: Schedule Device UsageWith your essential apps matched to their respective devices, it's time to create a structured schedule for when and how you'll use them. Establishing clear boundaries between your online and offline activities is vital for achieving digital balance.For example, you can designate certain hours of the day or specific days of the week for online engagement. Likewise, set aside periods of disconnection during your day or week. This deliberate scheduling ensures that you maintain a healthy distinction between your digital and offline life.By adhering to a well-defined schedule, you regain control over your time and avoid the constant distractions that digital devices can bring.Bonus Step: Schedule Offline ActivitiesIn addition to scheduling device usage, consider incorporating offline activities into your calendar. This step is where the true transformation happens. Allocate time for activities such as going to the gym, attending sports events, spending quality time with friends without digital distractions, or simply taking peaceful walks in nature.Hardcoding these offline moments into your schedule reinforces your commitment to prioritizing real-world experiences. Face-to-face interactions with loved ones and friends can deepen your connections and lead to a more fulfilling life.Conclusion: Achieving Digital BalanceIn conclusion, embracing the art of disconnecting and reconnecting is a powerful strategy for achieving balance in your digital life. This methodology of three core steps, along with the bonus tip, empowers you to regain control of your time and invest it where it matters most.Your digital devices should enhance your life, not dominate it. By engaging in thoughtful conversations with yourself, your partner, or friends about the life you aspire to create, you can embark on a journey to prioritize your offline life and enjoy a more fulfilling everyday experience.If you found this methodology valuable, consider sharing it with others. By implementing these steps and finding your path to digital balance, you can embrace the beauty of offline moments and lead a more intentional and fulfilling life. Have a great weekend! Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

DescriptionIn today's episode of Moving Offline, I do a short reflection on the beauty of deceleration. As the world continues to speed up around us, there's a counter-movement gaining momentum: the shift towards slower technologies. Can choosing simplicity over sophistication truly elevate our daily experience?Links and Resources: Share your story via audio: https://www.speakpipe.com/dumbphonesAsk your questions: https://formaloo.net/un49cPodcast Scheduling: https://koalendar.com/e/meet-with-jose-brionesMy book: Low Tech Life eBookFind your device Dumbphone Finder. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

DescriptionShare your story via audio: https://www.speakpipe.com/dumbphonesAsk your questions: https://formaloo.net/un49cPodcast Scheduling: https://koalendar.com/e/meet-with-jose-brionesTranscriptHappy Monday everyone. Hope that you're having an amazing day. This is going to be a very short podcast. I am now accepting new guests for the Moving Offline podcast. I want to make sure to display a lot of positive and great stories from people and I want to have the ability to do that. And because of that, I have opened up three ways to do so. The first one is a SpeakPipe where you can share your story and I'll be featuring it in my hopefully weekly podcast now that I start in the summer. Now there will be some solo podcasts for myself and also you can submit it in writing.So if you have a question about productivity, digital, minimalism, and you want my advice or ideas that I can gather from the internet that may help you, then make sure to put them in the correct place. So if you want to do text, there's a SurveyMonkey. If you want to do it spoken, there's a speak pipe kind of apps that allow you to do so. And if you want to come on the show but don't have a lot of time, I also have a way to do it asynchronously so we don't have to do it on the same time, and I also have a way to record it synchronously. If you want to sit down with me for 30 minutes and then we can talk about your experience and display some of this stuff from the podcast to different listeners, wherever you're listening. So just a small note, check out the resources in the description of this podcast and in the email that accompanies it. And thank you for listening. Hope you have a great rest of your week.Be productive, be in the mindset, and always remember to make a plan in order to achieve your goals. Thank you for listening to this little podcast. Have great day. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

Buy the book here: The future is analog. Transcript Today I have a short podcast where I would like to speak to you about digital fatigue. Digital fatigue is the reality that you don't want to go to the zoom meeting, you don't want to check your email. Again, you feel like your phone is overwhelming you. It's just the reality in which we live in a post-pandemic world, but it doesn't have to be so.So today I'm going to share two things that you can do to reduce your digital fatigue. Every day this digital fatigue is felt throughout your day. You feel fogginess in your brain. You don't feel like you can escape the content creation cycle, having to check with your loved ones on WhatsApp, or Signal or iMessage, whatever online platform.You don't have peace because you are constantly pinged again and again and again. It's a terrible feeling, but we don't have to live in digital prison all the time. The first thing that I want to encourage you to do is to eat your meals without your phone or without any other device. We have gotten conditioned to fill our every single empty space with the digital entertainment of the platforms online.So let it be Twitter, let it be Netflix, let it be catching up with friends and. But we need to do more things just by ourselves or even have a conversation with a coworker. But that doesn't involve any phones, and it doesn't involve work. It's just a conversation. Human to human, maybe with a loved one. If you can with your spouse or with your girlfriend or boyfriend or anyone.That is very important in your life. You can sit down, go to a restaurant and not have to look at your phones, but just look at each other, and have a conversation. And enjoy the meal. We have gotten used to this exploitation and ability to be overwhelmed all the time by the digital pleasures of the world, that we forget that we need time just to be with ourselves, and enjoy the meal that is in front of us, and that's it.So I want to encourage you to do that, to go about your day every day and every time you have a meal, just to enjoy the. Or even enjoy a meal with somebody else without any kind of device interruption. That's the first thing. The second thing that I wanna say is go and intentionally plan time throughout your day.Maybe 30 minutes, maybe even 15 minutes to take a walk. So we are in front of computers. Maybe you work and you do content creation and social media scheduling. Maybe you are also doing a lot of other things, email or whatever it is, whatever assignments you have if you're in school. You need time where you can just walk and be bored.That is very important. It's another thing that could contribute to reducing the digital fatigue. Instead of being in front of devices and computers, you engage with nature. You take a walk with your dog. Or maybe I walk with your cat. If your cat is one of those that can be walked, whatever it is, just take time today and every day to go on a walk.Do not take any device. Do not listen to a podcast. No, it's just you and your thoughts. And that can be weird in the beginning, but it gets better over time. If you want to connect with another human being during this time, maybe go to a park and just tell the person, Hey, just leave your phone in the car.We're just gonna go for a walk and let's just talk. And that way you have meaningful interactions that are analog. We are made for those interactions with people, and we have. Forgotten about it. So it's very important for us to have it. So there you have it. Two suggestions that I have for you today. Eat your meals by yourself or with somebody else, but with no devices.And go on a walk for 15 minutes a day. It's just a start. It doesn't have to be two, three hours a day of walking or having a meal for an hour. No. Just enjoy what you have and reduce that digital fatigue. If you wanna learn more about this concept, I'm going to point you to a book that I've been listening to since yesterday.It's called The Future is Analog by David Sax, and it's just a book that I enjoy and I really love because he's explaining this concept of digital fatigue with different words. Of course, not with the exact term, but this, this idea that the future is going. Forward without the digital world, and we are re-engaging with other people and that the digital world is still gonna be here, but it's not going to be the only thing that controls our every moment of attention, but that there are other things that are coming and that are better suited for how we work as human beings.So the future of. Is Analog by David Sachs is an excellent book. Read it, listen to it, or whatever you prefer. It's an excellent book. I'll put um, a link in the show notes or in the email if you're receiving this as a newsletter. And again, thank you for your support. Thank you for listening. Hopefully, these two suggestions will help you reduce that digital fatigue and will help you live a better life.Thank you for listening. I'll see you in the next podcast. Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

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