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EPISODE · Feb 20, 2026 · 31 MIN

Why Dumbphone Apps Are So Hard to Build

from Moving Offline Podcast · host Jose Briones

In this episode of Moving Offline, I sit down with Thomas Barrasso, the developer behind PodLP, a podcast app made for dumbphones. We dive into why it’s tough to find your favorite apps on these minimalist devices, and Thomas shares what inspired him to build PodLP during the pandemic. We cover the challenges developers face, like small screens, keypad navigation, and platform fragmentation, and discuss why big companies aren’t rushing in.Thomas gives some inside info on what it takes to make apps work on different dumbphone platforms, and why financial incentives are still limited. We also touch on the tight-knit community around these phones, the rise of cloud-powered devices in emerging markets, and whether AI can really help speed up development.If you’re curious about trying a dumbphone, developing for one, or just want to hear how the offline movement is shaping up, this episode is for you. Don’t miss Thomas’ advice on embracing friction and finding what works for your own tech journey.Chapters:00:00 – Introduction & Guest Welcome 01:03 – How PodLP Began 02:31 – Why Developing for Dumbphones Is Hard 06:52 – Launching Apps on Dumbphones 11:17 – Why Big Platforms Ignore Dumbphones 17:55 – Can AI Accelerate Flip Phone App Development? 24:52 – Minimalism vs Maximalism: Should Dumbphones Stay “Dumb”? 28:28 – Final Thoughts & AdviceLinks:https://podlp.com/https://www.dumbphones.org/ Get full access to Moving Offline at josebriones.substack.com/subscribe

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