Out Is Through: Living a meaningful life in difficult times with Larry D. Lariosa

This interview is Part 2 of 2. Stuart Gaffney is a lifelong artist and social justice activist. Stuart and his husband John Lewis were one of the plaintiff couples in the historic California case for marriage equality that won at the California Supreme Court in 2008. Stuart and John have been prominent voices speaking out for marriage equality and LGBTQ+ rights in the local, national and international media since 2004. Together for 39 years, they legally married in 2008. Stuart is an award-winning filmmaker, and appears in the groundbreaking books "Part Asian, 100% Hapa" and "hapa.me: 15 years of the hapa project" about mixed race identity. A graduate of Yale University, Stuart has worked for 25 years at the University of California, San Francisco, in his "day job" as the Center for AIDS Prevention Studies (CAPS) Center Coordinator.STUART'S LINKS:https://marriageequality.me/EPISODE REFERENCES:https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/photos-and-video/video/2015/06/26/president-speaks-supreme-court-s-decision-marriage-equality

This interview is Part 1 of 2.Episode 2 will be released on April 1st, 2026.Stuart Gaffney is a lifelong artist and social justice activist. Stuart and his husband John Lewis were one of the plaintiff couples in the historic California case for marriage equality that won at the California Supreme Court in 2008. Stuart and John have been prominent voices speaking out for marriage equality and LGBTQ+ rights in the local, national and international media since 2004. Together for 39 years, they legally married in 2008. Stuart is an award-winning filmmaker, and appears in the groundbreaking books "Part Asian, 100% Hapa" and "hapa.me: 15 years of the hapa project" about mixed race identity. A graduate of Yale University, Stuart has worked for 25 years at the University of California, San Francisco, in his "day job" as the Center for AIDS Prevention Studies (CAPS) Center Coordinator.STUART'S LINKS:https://marriageequality.me/EPISODE REFERENCES:https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/...

Dr. Natalye Pearson, Psy.D, is a licensed clinical psychologist with over 20 years of experience serving diverse communities in the San Francisco Bay Area. She specializes in treating racial trauma, internalized oppression, and identity development through culturally responsive individual and group therapy. Dr. Pearson is also a sought-after speaker and trainer, having led workshops for major tech companies including Apple and PlayStation. Her work is rooted in the belief that healing begins with reconnecting people to the truth of who they are.DR. NATALYE'S LINKS:https://drnatalyepearson.comEPISODE REFERENCES:Out is Through Episode 2: "Healing From Racial Trauma" with Dr. Natalye Pearsonhttps://youtu.be/nqKaf5J2McsRemembering Alberto Rangel, LCSWhttps://chancellor.ucsf.edu/news/remembering-alberto-rangel-lmft

Christie George is a writer, curator, and producer who has been working at the intersection of media, technology and social change for more than 20 years. She started her career at Women Make Movies and is the former president of New Media Ventures. She currently advises foundations and family offices on impact investing and narrative change. Her creative work has been included in Southern Exposure's Annual Juried Show "This Will Never Work" and the "This Is What I Want" festival; and she produced the award-winning documentary feature "Hunting in Wartime" (PBS). Christie has a particular interest in collaborative art, especially work that explores and expands the idea of collective authorship. She recently produced "The Emergency Was Curiosity," a book report, exhibition and event series about cultivating creative attention. She holds a BA from Yale University and an MBA with distinction from the University of Oxford where she was a Skoll Scholar and was awarded the Said Prize.CHRISTIE'S LINKS:Book: The Emergency Was Curiosityhttps://lostseason.metalabel.com/emergency?variantId=2&retryCount=1Website: https://www.christiemgeorge.com/Blog: https://thepracticepractice.substack.com/EPISODE REFERENCES:Jenny Odell, Author of "How To Do Nothing": https://www.jennyodell.com/index.html"Out is Through" Podcast Episode 17 with Misty Loetterle: https://youtu.be/3Zh2fjjkR2E"Out is Through" Podcast Episode 12 with Caitlin Gatlin: https://youtu.be/oGuLxvq0wPM"Out is Through" Podcast Episode 11 with Steve Adams: https://youtu.be/gyTc3Dr6wYc

T.G. Ramsey is a clinical psychologist by day and a writer by night. His big gay agenda is to write MM novels that celebrate romance, friendship, and sexuality. And to normalize queer people being happy and accepted everywhere. He lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with his two furry freeloaders, Biscuit and Beignet. T.G. plans to resume world travels and local adventures in between novels, because what is life without stories to tell.TG's Links:https://bsky.app/profile/tgramseyauthor.bsky.social https://www.instagram.com/t.g.ramsey/ https://www.threads.net/@t.g.ramseyhttps://www.facebook.com/t.g.ramsey.writer Email: [email protected]

Misty Loetterle is a Certified Coach and Certified Organizational Ombuds and Mediator. She also holds a Master’s in Psychology and a Bachelor’s in Theater Arts Performance. With over 15 years of coaching experience, she partners with leaders and professionals to navigate complex organizational challenges, interpersonal dynamics, and mid-career transitions - empowering them to build confidence and resilience to transform the way they work and lead. She brings a strengths-based intuitive approach, connecting with clients across cultures, backgrounds, and styles.MISTY'S LINKS:Website: https://www.intrinsight.com/Email: [email protected] REFERENCES:"Transitions: Making Sense of Life's Changes" (2004) by William Bridges, Ph.D

On Sunday, September 14, 2025, our family lost a mother, wife, grandmother, great-grandmother, friend, and my mother-in-law. This episode is honors the memory of Millie Marcotte, her amazing spirit, and part of her story of living a life filled with meaning and purpose. Together with her husband Pat (my father-in-law), we recorded them for a short film “Keep Moving”. about their volunteer work with Meals on Wheels in Kitsap County. To see the film, click the links below. (If you are watching this podcast on YouTube, the film will appear at the end of this podcast.)"Keep Moving" (Short Film), 2023 by Terrence Marcotte & Larry D. LariosaVimeo: https://vimeo.com/880733690YouTube: https://youtu.be/D6uZglvtcWQ

James Guay, LMFT, is a psychotherapist in private practice since 1999, helping clients throughout California live more authentic and fulfilling lives. Alongside his therapy work, James is a passionate advocate for integrating mindfulness and nature as powerful tools for emotional resilience. An avid hiker and backpacker, he shares lessons from the trail — from the patience of switchbacks to the perspective of summit views — as metaphors for navigating life’s challenges with presence and compassion. On his YouTube channel, Living More Fully, James creates guided meditation videos filmed on location during his hikes, offering viewers a chance to slow down, reset, and reconnect with the beauty that still exists in the world.JAMES'S LINKS:YouTube: Living More FullyWebsite: www.LivingMoreFully.comInstagram: @jamesguaylmft

Compassion without Borders brings brighter futures to animals in need on both sides of the border. They focus their efforts where the need is the greatest, but where animals are the very least likely to be helped due to financial, geographic, and cultural barriers. Their programs include a dog rescue program from Mexico and the Central Valley, along with free veterinary wellness and spay/neuter clinics in underserved communities on both sides of the border.Megan Gatlin has 10+ years of experience founding and scaling international business operations across emerging technologies including digital and mobile advertising, cannabis, SaaS, and crypto. Before becoming Director of Development at Compassion Without Borders, Megan was an executive leader at EdgeMode.io and Insightful.io and, prior to that, Humanity and Manage.com, playing an integral role in the growth and subsequent acquisitions of both businesses. She is thriving in her transition from for-profit tech to nonprofit animal welfare and also serves on the board of Friends of Monte Rio, where she helps bring the community together through events such as RioFest and other local-based initiatives.MEGAN'S LINKS:https://cwob.org/https://www.facebook.com/compassionwithoutbordershttps://www.instagram.com/compassionwithoutbordersNPR Interview profiling Compassion Without Borders https://norcalpublicmedia.org/2024120396912/news-feed/santa-rosa-animal-rescue-nonprofit-heals-without-borders"Hope Can't Wait" (Video)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOPAI2orsqMMuttopia, the shelter within Compassion Without Borders, was has been around since 2016. It was gifted to Compassion Without Borders through Center for Animal Protection and Education (CARE) in Santa Rosa. https://www.capeanimals.org/EPISODE LINKS:Out Is Through Episode 7: "The Meaning of Money"https://youtu.be/P2iZt07525M

Steve Adams has been an Oakland-based career musician/bass player for over 20 years, making records and touring globally with solo artists and bands, including Jack Johnson and his own band ALO. He has also part-timed at record shops (Tempo Records, Tower Records, Down Home Music and Open Mind Music) and sold at Bay Area record swaps. With live music on a temporary hold in 2020, Steve decided to lean into his love of vinyl and begin the journey of Mars Record Shop.STEVE'S LINKS:https://www.stevenrueadams.com/https://www.alomusic.com/https://www.marsrecordshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/alomusichttps://www.instagram.com/marsrecordshophttps://www.instagram.com/stevealoEPISODE LINKS:"Still Processing" Podcast https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/08/podcasts/still-processing-donna-summer-beyonce.html"Don't Think I've Forgotten: Cambodia's Lost Rock & Roll" Documentary (2014)https://youtu.be/PxD7fnNRppg?si=w-040Xls9nZAuvEzThe Arhoolie Foundationhttps://arhoolie.org/

In this week’s episode, “The Meaning of Parenting”, I am so excited to interview with my niece and nephew Jackie and Tim Marcotte. Jackie and Tim Marcotte are a married couple and social media influencers. They find joy and meaning from raising their young toddler, Lando, in their home in Tacoma, Washington. When not working, they enjoy adventures like traveling, going to concerts, and visiting the happiest place on earth. JACKIE & TIM’S LINKS:https://www.instagram.com/jackiemarcotte__/https://www.tiktok.com/@jackiemarcotte_https://www.instagram.com/marcottephotographyandco/https://www.youtube.com/@tim_marcotteEPISODE REFERENCES: The Feminist on Cellblock Y (Documentary)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYxTzsabkH8The Gottman Sound Relationship House https://www.gottman.com/blog/what-is-the-sound-relationship-house/

Episode 9 of "Out Is Through: Living a Meaningful Life in Difficult Times" features Ann Dunn, Executive Director of Friends of Oakland Animal Services (FOAS). Before joining Friends of Oakland Animal Services (FOAS), Ann most recently served as the Director of Oakland Animal Services (OAS), from February 2020 to June 2024. Under Ann’s leadership, and with funding from FOAS, OAS launched several new lifesaving programs, resulting in the highest live release rate in the history of OAS. Ann began her journey in animal welfare, in 2009, as a cat volunteer at OAS. In 2011, her experience as a volunteer led her to found Cat Town, a cat rescue organization that helped increase the live release rate for cats at OAS from 58% to over 90%, by focusing on the hardest-to-place cats. Prior to working in animal welfare, Ann worked for over 20 years in public housing and is passionate about supporting pet guardians with limited resources in experiencing the transformative love of an animal in their life. When not working, Ann loves to ride her bike, hike, cook and eat. A California native, she lives in Oakland with her husband, Steven, and their rescue cats, Belle, Gilbert, Charlotte, Violet and Carmen.ANN'S LINKS:https://friendsofoas.org/https://www.oaklandanimalservices.org/https://www.cattownoakland.org/

Ara Chawdhury is a Bisaya Bengali transmedia storyteller and human rights activist. Her debut feature Miss Bulalacao screened at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts (YBCA) 2016 Best of Philippine Cinema program. She recently staged a multimedia project titled “Maldisyon” about generational trauma and has published a children’s book titled “Marichin Marukoy, Mangayo Ko’g Asin”.ARA'S LINKS:https://www.instagram.com/marichin_marukoyhttps://www.instagram.com/arachawdhuryhttps://arachawdhury.com/

Jennifer and Lisa Dazols are the dynamic duo behind Modern Family Finance, blending financial expertise and social advocacy to empower women and LGBTQ+ professionals. Jennifer, a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and former Silicon Valley tech director, specializes in guiding clients through intentional financial journeys. Lisa, a licensed clinical social worker with a background in psychotherapy, brings a compassionate approach to operations, ensuring clients feel understood and supported. Together, they've produced the documentary Out & Around, delivered a TED Talk with over 3 million views, and founded the Asia Rainbow Ride to champion LGBTQ+ rights in Asia.JENNIFER & LISA’S LINKS:TWITTERhttps://twitter.com/JenDazolsFACEBOOKhttps://www.facebook.com/ModernFamilyFinances/YOUTUBEhttps://www.youtube.com/@modernfamilyfinance4935WEBSITEhttps://www.modernfamilyfinance.com/      PODCASThttps://www.modernfamilyfinance.com/podcast/“OUT AND AROUND” DOCUMENTARY FILMhttps://youtu.be/niWQfArDTZk?si=6hVpOl3p-bsIOd8ZEPISODE REFERENCES:“The Soul of Money” (2003) by Lynn Twist and Teresa BarkerThe Gottman Sound Relationship Househttps://www.gottman.com/blog/what-is-the-sound-relationship-house/

Christian Linaban is a pioneer of Cebuano Cinema New Wave through his production company Panumduman Pictures and acclaimed short films. He won the Ishmael Bernal Award for Young Cinema at 2010's CineManila International Film Festival and 2011 Gawad Urian Best Cinematography Award. He’s directed 2 feature films: "Aberya" and “SUPERPSYCHOCEBU”.CHRISTIAN'S LINKS:https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4441483/https://superpsychocebumovie.com/https://open.spotify.com/artist/746PKGG77zCfuA6FN2FNTZ

Elke Ullmer-Strempke is an artist, licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, and level 1 trained Internal Family Systems therapist, living and working in Oakland, CA. She  supports people in accessing their inherent creativity, which she believes is wildly necessary as we envision our future and the future of the planet together.  She recently had a personal record of deadlifting 200 lbs, and is feeling very proud of herself. She has a cat named Turtle who is very loving and feisty. ELKE'S LINKS:https://elkeullmer.com/ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL LINKS:https://ifs-institute.com/BOOKS REFERENCED:"No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wellness" by Richard C. Schwartz, PhD (2021)

This is a short debrief of our first 3 episodes. I am going on vacation so there will be no new episodes until June 3, 2025. References:“Atlas of the Heart” (2021) by Brene Brown“Teaching to Transgress” (1994)  by bell hooks (1994)Quote: "A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin, and culture is like a tree without roots." - Marcus Garvey, Pan-African activist & journalistLarry’s Film: www. searchingforkapwa.com

Jose Aleman is a therapist-turned-coach with over 20 years of experience helping adults and couples thrive. Based in San Francisco and Oakland, he has transitioned from traditional therapy to coaching, blending mental health expertise with a fresh approach to personal growth. As the creator of "Loving Your Awkward Self", an empowering online platform, Jose offers confidence-boosting content tailored to queer, first-generation, and BIPOC individuals, while welcoming all. Passionate about authenticity and safe spaces, Jose is dedicated to helping people embrace their true selves and grow.JOSE'S LINKS:https://www.instagram.com/coachingwithjosehttps://www.coachingwithjose.com/EDUCATIONAL LINKS:https://www.ywcaworks.org/blogs/ywca/tue-03122024-1000/why-we-use-bipoc#:~:text=BIPOC stands for Black, Indigenous,solidarity between communities of color.Queer/LGBTQ+https://www.hrc.org/resources/glossary-of-terms#:~:text=Queer | A term people often,parts of the LGBTQ+ movementBOOKS REFERENCED:"Coming Out Spiritually: The Next Step" (1999) by Christian de la Huerta"Gay Men & The New Way Forward" (2015) by Raymond Rigoglioso

Dr. Natalye Pearson, Psy.D, is a licensed clinical psychologist with over 20 years of experience serving diverse communities in the San Francisco Bay Area. She specializes in treating racial trauma, internalized oppression, and identity development through culturally responsive individual and group therapy. Dr. Pearson is also a sought-after speaker and trainer, having led workshops for major tech companies including Apple and PlayStation. Her work is rooted in the belief that healing begins with reconnecting people to the truth of who they are.NATALYE'S LINKS: https://drnatalyepearson.com/https://rootedresistancetherapy.com/

La'on Canabe is a Bisaya indigenous artist, tattoo artist, and community organizer in Oakland, CA. They founded Baranggay Oakland, a community collective with a mission of supporting global indigenous consciousness within urban communities. La'on also founded Austronesian Gathering, a monthly program within Baranggay Oakland where austronesian people can gather, build community, share stories and ancestral foods.LA'ON'S LINKS:Instagram: @baranggayoakland, @laoncanabe, @bisdak.undergroundWeb: https://bio.site/baranaggayoaklandEDUCATIONAL LINKS:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian_peopleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visayans

An episode introducing the audience to the Out is Through podcast.