Squabbling Saints

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Squabbling Saints

Welcome to Squabbling Saints! We want to hash out the big stuff—faith, culture, the news, and those tricky theological questions. Honest conversations, a little back-and-forth, and a lot of fun as we dig into what it means to follow Jesus in today’s world.

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    Mixed Bag

    The hosts begin by debating whether Friday Night Lights is worth watching and discussing actors like Michael B. Jordan and Taylor Kitsch, then shift to Chris’s recent young adults retreat in Ottawa where he spoke about idols and time management. They describe young adults as eager for authenticity, quick to identify and surrender idols, and more willing than older adults to admit struggles, while older people often protect facades, fear judgment, and prioritize image. They argue worship is for God rather than personal preference and emphasize biblical commands for expressive worship, urging people to drop “dignity” and approach God with clean hands and a pure heart. They discuss confession, a planned deliverance curriculum for their team, reducing screens, parenting with proactive honesty, and themes of songs, dancing with Jesus, and bird song as a prophetic picture of morning. 00:00 Friday Night Lights Debate 00:51 Taylor Kitsch Who 02:00 Movie Watchlist Plans 02:54 Young Adults Retreat Recap 04:50 Why Youth Spot Idols Fast 08:02 Adults Image And Facades 10:34 Confession And Deliverance Weekend 19:04 Messy Worship Over Dignity 21:28 Commands For Expressive Worship 23:45 Heart Leads The Body 24:43 Softening Your Heart 25:06 Tears in His Presence 26:12 Prophetic Authority Story 27:27 Clean Hands Pure Heart 27:59 Worship Is Not About You 29:41 Screens and Distractions 31:33 Fix Your Eyes on Jesus 34:35 Early Morning Motives 37:50 Authenticity for a Generation 39:41 Parenting Real Conversations 46:15 Dancing and Birdsong 51:28 Wrapping Up and Next Topics

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    Accountability Matters

    In this episode, the we discuss a wide range of topics including the Winter Olympics, personal experiences with winter weather, and the importance of accountability within the church and personal life. They touch on recent scandals in the charismatic church movement, emphasize the need for authentic relationships and accountability, and underline the significance of relying on God and community to maintain spiritual health. The conversation also includes practical steps for fostering accountability and the role of prayer in inviting God into every area of life.   00:00 Rolling with the Punches 00:16 Winter Woes and Weather Talk 02:14 Olympic Fever 03:06 The Magic of Figure Skating 06:22 Winter Sports and Injuries 10:04 The Importance of Accountability 20:08 Exposing False Prophets 33:24 The Downfall of Ministries: Pride and Accountability 35:30 The Importance of Building Genuine Relationships 37:34 Public Accountability for Public Ministries 39:03 Navigating Hurt and Maintaining Faith 41:45 The Role of Accountability in Personal Growth 49:23 Creating a Culture of Accountability in Churches 53:30 The Dangers of Idolizing Leaders and Worship 56:59 Practical Steps to Establish Accountability 01:05:02 Encouragement to Seek Accountability and Redemption

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    Eliminating Distractions

    In this episode of Squabbling Saints, the hosts begin by celebrating their producer Lyndsay's birthday and reflect on the fast-paced end of January. They share personal experiences and insights from a recent 'soul fast' their church undertook, which involved abstaining from media and social media to focus on spiritual growth. Key highlights include testimonies of answered prayers, the value of consecrating specific times and places for worship, and cultivating intimacy with God. The episode also touches on the importance of setting priorities, the concept of waiting on the Lord, and maintaining a balance between spiritual devotion and daily responsibilities. The hosts emphasize that it’s never too late to start dedicating time to God and encourage listeners to experience the transformation that comes from focusing on Him.   00:00 Birthday Wishes and Celebrations 01:45 Reflecting on January 04:30 Soul Fast and Encounter Weekend 06:40 Morning Prayer and Testimonies 16:15 Consecration and Intentionality 28:13 Social Media Detox Reflections 31:40 Social Media Overload 32:01 AI and Social Media Management 32:49 Dream Interpretation 33:16 Haircut Nightmare 34:56 Social Media Anxiety 39:42 Consecrated Time and Space 42:59 Intimacy with God 52:21 Encouragement and Final Thoughts

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    Welcome to 2026

    In the first podcast of 2026, Chris & Justine reflect on their journey, recounting their busy 2025 year-end and personal challenges during the holiday season. They dive into their New Year resolutions and the significance of setting priorities aligned with spiritual growth. They discuss the concept of having a 'word for the year,' share personal goals, and emphasize the importance of recognizing and adapting to different life seasons. Both highlight the spiritual and physical well-being connections, with a focus on maintaining a balance in life. The episode touches on topics such as the difference between male and female rhythms, the significance of gratitude, and practical steps toward achieving uncommon spiritual and physical goals.   00:00 Welcome to 2026: First Podcast of the Year 00:43 Reflecting on the Holidays: Christmas Chaos and Weight Gain 01:38 Belts and Fashion Trends: A Nostalgic Discussion 04:05 New Year Resolutions: Gym Rush and Vanity 04:49 Spiritual Reflections: Church Attendance and Fitness Analogies 15:06 Historical Context: Origins of New Year's Resolutions 18:03 Personal Words for the Year: Health, Restoration, and Fulfillment 23:57 Seasons of Life: Recognizing and Embracing Change 28:11 Uncommon Pursuits: Striving for a Deeper Connection with God 35:41 Morning Routine and Spiritual Commitment 36:20 Making Healthier Choices for Marriage 36:51 Tracking Sleep and Accountability 37:13 Personal Spiritual Goals 37:45 Implementing Spiritual Practices 38:23 Adapting Spiritual Practices to Life Stages 38:42 The Importance of Morning Prayer 39:09 Finding Fulfillment in Daily Life 39:46 Listening to God's Guidance 39:58 Unexpected Spiritual Encounters 42:44 The Role of Gratitude 44:44 Balancing Physical and Spiritual Health 46:07 Understanding Seasonal Changes in Life 47:48 Differences in Male and Female Productivity 50:31 Physical Health and Spiritual Well-being 01:04:22 Setting Priorities for the New Year 01:06:32 Conclusion and Social Media Engagement

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    From Anxiety to Depression

    In this episode, the hosts welcome Selina, who shares her transformative journey from a double life of church involvement and personal struggles to a true realization of God's love and lordship. The discussion covers a wide range of topics including the importance of hydration, cultural differences in measurements, and seasonal challenges of water consumption. Selina's story delves into her childhood love for worship and singing, her experiences with anxiety and manipulation, and her ultimate deliverance and commitment to living for God. The hosts also discuss the concepts of lordship, deliverance, and the renewing of the mind, providing a detailed explanation of these theological ideas. This episode blends personal anecdotes with deep theological discussions, offering listeners insights into overcoming life's challenges through faith. We also give 3 resources from trusted authors who offer different perspectives, but all come to the same end; deliverance for Christians is beneficial.    00:00 Introduction and Hydration Talk 01:00 Winter Water Struggles 02:49 Selina's Introduction 04:05 Selina's Background and Childhood 11:42 Selina's Teenage Years and Double Life 13:17 Encountering God's Unconditional Love 28:36 Ministry School and Personal Struggles 33:25 Reflecting on God's Guidance 33:51 A Vivid Dream and Spiritual Manipulation 36:22 Leaving the Bible Study Group 37:43 Journey into Deliverance 40:51 Understanding Deliverance and Spiritual Warfare 47:40 The Importance of Renewing the Mind 56:38 Consequences and Strongholds 01:00:25 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement   From Today's Episode: They Shall Expel Demons - Derek Prince https://www.derekprince.com/books/they-shall-expel-demons Keys for Deliverance - Jake Kail https://jakekail.com/podcasts/keys-for-deliverance/ Deliverance - Jon Thompson https://jonthompsonresources.com/deliverance-book/  

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    Events vs. Advent

    This episode discusses the importance of maintaining a focus on Christ during the Christmas season. The hosts reflect on their personal holiday traditions, the significance of Advent, and how to integrate Christ-centered activities into family celebrations. They talk about the challenges of balancing fun holiday activities with spiritual reflection, suggest resources like devotionals and the Jesus Storybook Bible, and emphasize the importance of establishing traditions that bring deeper meaning to the holiday beyond the commercial aspects.   00:00 Introduction and Cadence of Speech 00:12 Performative Prayer and Self-Reflection 00:33 Licorice and Conversation Dynamics 01:30 ADHD and Interruptions 02:22 Instagram Reels and Humor 03:24 Vanilla Coke and Eggnog Debates 06:59 Christmas Traditions and Memories 15:26 Expectations and Anxiety During Christmas 18:56 Keeping Christ in Christmas 28:00 Keeping Christ at the Center of Christmas 28:26 The Joy of Giving 31:30 Advent Traditions and Their Significance 36:15 The Deeper Meaning of Christmas 40:21 Reflecting on the Christmas Story 52:10 Favourite Christmas Songs and Traditions 56:08 Concluding Thoughts and Christmas Wishes

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    Certainly Uncertain

    In this episode of 'Squabbling Saints,' we dive into the complexities of women in ministry, discussing whether biblical directives are meant for all churches or specific contexts. They explore the balance between certainty in Jesus and the inherent uncertainties of following Him, sharing personal anecdotes and scripture. The conversation also touches on modern ministry challenges, the significance of generosity, and the comfort found in God's guidance despite life's unpredictable nature.   00:00 Introduction and Initial Thoughts 00:04 Context of Women in Ministry 00:44 Temple Prostitutes and Converts 01:53 Debate on Women as Pastors 03:58 Personal Experiences and Challenges 09:52 Certainty and Faith in Uncertainty 20:30 Peace and Trust in God's Plan 27:57 Surrendering Control to Jesus 28:16 Paul's Unshakeable Faith 29:08 The Illusion of Certainty 30:08 Generosity and Stewardship 34:39 The Heart of Generosity 40:05 The Challenge of Pastoral Longevity 43:40 Embracing Uncertainty in Ministry 51:48 Faith in Action: Trusting God's Plan 56:57 Concluding Thoughts on Faith and Uncertainty

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    Hit the Brakes

    In this podcast episode, the Chris and Justine dive into the challenges of navigating busy seasons, particularly around holidays, and the importance of maintaining spiritual health and family bonds amidst the chaos. They discuss the pressures associated with societal expectations, the balance between activities and rest, and the significance of making time for personal devotion and family time. Key highlights include stories about finding specific Bible scriptures, the importance of gratitude, practical tips for establishing a healthy rhythm, and the essential role of community and accountability in spiritual growth.    00:00 Navigating the Bible: A Humorous Start 01:25 Musical Mishaps and Learning Curves 04:22 Thanksgiving Reflections and Sweater Stories 08:49 Holiday Stress and Planning 14:38 Balancing Busy Seasons with Spiritual Health 17:21 The Importance of Rest and Connection 20:38 Slowing Down in a Fast-Paced World 31:12 Building Bonds with Children and God 31:56 Prioritizing Your Calendar with Faith 32:50 The Power of Stillness and Worship 36:17 David's Example of Seeking God 40:14 The Importance of Gratitude 47:42 Accountability and Spiritual Growth 57:45 Thriving Through Difficult Seasons 01:01:19 Engaging with Our Audience

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    Social Etiquette

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the challenges and responsibilities Christians face when engaging on social media, especially in times of heightened emotions and public scrutiny. They explore anecdotes about personal interactions, public disputes, and how to handle online conflicts in a way that aligns with Christian values. The episode features discussions on the importance of unity, thoughtful reflection, and the power of private conversations becoming public lessons in reconciliation. Featuring examples like the feud and subsequent reconciliation between Forrest Frank and Cory Asbury, the hosts emphasize the need for love, humility, and wisdom in all public and private interactions.   00:00 Convincing Rosie to Watch Star Wars 01:35 Handling Conflict and Embracing Discomfort 02:28 The Influence of Repetition and Practice 05:41 The Rise of the 'Six Seven' Trend 09:12 Social Media's Impact on Perception 09:33 The Aftermath of Charlie Kirk's Assassination 10:57 Navigating Social Media Etiquette as Christians 13:43 The Dangers of Quick Reactions on Social Media 20:07 The Importance of Thoughtful Reflection 31:37 Personal Reflections on Social Media Pressure 32:20 Motivations Behind Social Media Posts 32:51 Navigating Online Conflicts with Love 34:00 The JK Rowling and Emma Watson Debate 36:00 The Role of Accountability in Online Interactions 36:47 The Importance of Unity Among Christians 44:58 Forrest Frank's Testimony and Online Presence 47:57 Handling Public and Private Conflicts 51:36 The Power of Reconciliation and Humility 56:41 Final Thoughts on Social Media and Personal Impact

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    Family Talk

    In this episode of Squabbling Saints, the hosts welcome Brett Ullman, a speaker and author, to discuss practical ways to enhance marriage and parenting. They talk about various aspects such as household management, communication, intimacy, and the importance of having fun and shared purpose in a marriage. Brett shares insights from his book 'Navigating Parenting' and various tools like the 'Flywheel' to assess and improve marriage health. They also touch on the significance of open communication about sex and parenting, balancing screen time, and the importance of community support. The episode emphasizes the importance of small, intentional changes to create a healthier family dynamic.   00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview 00:34 Special Guest: Brett Ulman 01:25 Brett Ullman's Ministry Journey 03:55 Transition to Online Courses and Psychotherapy 08:23 Holistic Approach to Mental Health 16:52 Navigating Marriage and Parenting Challenges 27:21 Father-Son Practice and Family Dynamics 27:32 Introducing the Flywheel Concept 28:47 Weekly Marriage Meetings 29:21 Common Weaknesses in Marriages 30:18 The Importance of Fun in Relationships 31:15 Communication and Intimacy 32:59 Addressing Sex and Intimacy in Church 38:30 Parenting Styles and Responsibilities 41:47 Balancing Household Responsibilities 48:57 The Role of Men in Relationships 55:18 The Importance of Fun and Novelty 57:10 Cherished Family Vacations 57:29 Building Strong Family Bonds 58:45 The Importance of Purpose in Relationships 59:04 John Gottman's Sound Relationship House 01:00:40 Faith and Community Involvement 01:01:43 Balancing Personal Goals and Family Support 01:04:50 Effective Communication Techniques 01:08:09 The Role of Media and Technology in Family Life 01:16:30 Encouraging Reading and Learning 01:19:59 Concluding Thoughts and Resources

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    ChatGPT and Me

    In this episode of Squabbling Saints, Justine and Chris dive into a lively discussion about authenticity, faith, and the role of AI in our daily lives. From debates over the best Caesar salad dressing to the deeper questions of spiritual transformation, the hosts explore how technology like ChatGPT is changing the way we communicate, research, and even approach faith. They reflect on the importance of being real—at home, in church, and with God—and share personal stories about vulnerability, leadership, and the journey toward a transformed heart. Whether you’re here for the laughs, the honest conversation, or the spiritual insights, this episode has something for everyone.   00:00 – Opening banter: Caesar salad obsessions and the quest for the perfect coasters 06:00 – Amazon, Temu, and the ethics of online shopping 12:00 – ChatGPT and AI: How the hosts use it for writing, research, and daily life 20:00 – The pros and cons of AI in education, work, and ministry 28:00 – Authenticity in faith: Are we living what we preach? 35:00 – The dangers of hypocrisy and the call to real transformation 42:00 – Vulnerability, hard hearts, and the analogy of calluses and root canals 50:00 – How to pursue a transformed heart: practical steps and spiritual encouragement 58:00 – The importance of waiting on God and daily surrender 1:05:00 – Final thoughts: Bringing heaven to earth, living authentically, and a closing prayer

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    Short Summer

    In this episode, the hosts reflect on the fleeting nature of summer, shared experiences, and the challenges of transitioning into the busier fall season. They discuss the dynamics of worship at a recent youth camp, the importance of genuine spiritual experiences, and the prudent use of spiritual 'power tools.' They also touch upon the balance between emotional expressions and genuine encounters in worship, the value of being intentional in busy seasons, and the upcoming shift into fall routines. The conversation includes personal anecdotes, reflections on spiritual growth, and a lighthearted exchange about giving up coffee.   00:00 Reflecting on a Busy Summer 00:37 Vacation Plans and Bucket Lists 01:39 Family Time and Summer Activities 04:20 Transitioning to Fall 07:32 Lessons from Youth Camp 10:36 The Power of Worship 19:01 Emotional Highs and Spiritual Growth 31:15 Struggles in Prayer and Journaling 31:46 Seasons of Weeping and God's Presence 32:03 Indicators of Spiritual Life 32:36 Honesty in Worship and Faith 33:27 Living as a Redeemed Child of God 34:56 Faith in Action: Beyond Belief 38:33 Power Tools and Spiritual Gifts 40:37 Misuse of Spiritual Gifts 43:56 Personal Experiences with the Holy Spirit 56:58 Transitioning Between Seasons 01:00:05 Conclusion and Call to Action

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    Screen Time

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the impact of media and entertainment on their spiritual lives, emphasizing the importance of discerning what they consume. They share personal stories about the influence of movies, music, and books, with specific references to popular franchises like Harry Potter, Star Wars, and various TV shows. They reflect on how these choices can either draw them closer to or pull them away from their relationship with Jesus. The conversation highlights the necessity of being mindful and intentional about media consumption, and the potential need for 'spiritual detoxes,' where they focus on consuming Christian content. They advocate for a balance between enjoying entertainment and maintaining spiritual health, urging listeners to self-reflect on their media habits in the light of their faith.   00:00 Introduction and Technical Difficulties 00:14 Meet the Producer 01:07 Entertainment and Its Impact 02:23 Summer of Movies Plan 04:40 Reading Habits and Preferences 07:43 Influence of Media on Behaviour 24:29 Music and Its Effects 33:37 Nostalgic Christian Music 34:25 Mindless Action Movies and Horror Avoidance 35:27 Workout Routines and Spiritual Practices 37:05 Controversial Media: Harry Potter Discussion 40:36 Evaluating Media Consumption 49:12 Favourite Movies and Comfort Shows 01:00:53 Spiritual Reflection on Media Choices 01:06:06 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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    Young People

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the complexities and rewards of youth ministry with guest Ashley Livingston, who has been working with the Eastern Ontario District of Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada for 12 years. The conversation delves into the dynamic between older and younger generations, with an emphasis on the importance of authenticity, relationship-building, and intentionality in engaging youth. They explore the evolving landscape of youth culture, from changing language trends to the critical need for spiritual encounters. Tips for effectively ministering to youth, the role of social media, and the critical importance of supporting youth pastors are also covered. Practical advice is given for churches and individuals aiming to make youth a priority, and the episode highlights the constant need for adapting and learning in ministry.   00:00 Introduction: The Power of Influence 00:49 Nostalgia and Playground Memories 04:56 Meet Ashley Livingston 06:12 Ashley’s Journey to Youth Ministry 23:09 Youth Ministry Challenges and Insights 33:10 The Challenge of Discipline in Modern Life 34:04 Hiring the Next Generation: What to Look For 37:31 Generational Differences in Work Ethic and Boundaries 42:40 The Importance of Youth Ministry in Churches 49:34 Engaging with Youth: Practical Tips for Churches and Parents 56:19 The Role of Authenticity and Social Media 01:00:57 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement

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    Livin' on a Prayer

    This episode dives into the significance of prayer, starting with a humorous personal story about a cold trip to a theme park that doubles as a backdrop for discussing the emotional terrain of life. The hosts explain the various barriers people face when it comes to praying, such as pride, lack of knowledge, perceived lack of time, and feelings of unworthiness. They break down Jesus' structure for prayer, commonly known as The Lord's Prayer, and introduce the PRAY acrostic (Praise, Repent, Ask, Yield) as a simple method to start a prayer life. The episode encourages listeners to communicate openly with God and highlights the importance of setting aside intentional time for prayer. Tips for teaching children to pray and the benefits of praying scripture are also covered.   00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 00:10 The Weather Surprise at Wonderland 01:09 Chaperoning Grade Eight Girls 03:39 The Rollercoaster Experience 09:09 Discussing Prayer and Its Importance 30:02 Trusting in God's Daily Provision 31:45 The Importance of Forgiveness 35:15 Daily Spiritual Practices 45:35 Teaching Children to Pray 48:14 The PRAY Method for Structured Prayer 58:01 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement

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    Healthy Boundaries

    In this episode of the Squabbling Saints podcast, Justine and Chris are joined by Dr. Danielle Jeffery, a psychotherapist, to discuss the complexities of setting boundaries, people-pleasing, and ensuring healthy relationships within the church and personal life. They explore the difficulties of balancing personal boundaries with the biblical call to be the hands and feet of Jesus, especially when past traumas and personal anxieties play a role. The conversation also touches on recognizing emotional triggers, managing professional boundaries, and the importance of self-awareness and attunement in relationships. Tune in for practical advice and spiritual insights into fostering healthier, more balanced interactions in various aspects of life.   00:00 Stuck on a Song: The Watermelon Sugar Dilemma 00:38 Kids and Music: Navigating Explicit Lyrics 02:30 The Role of Music in Spiritual Seasons 04:09 Maturing in Faith: Lessons from the New Testament 06:35 Introducing Dr. Danielle Jeffrey: Boundaries in Relationships 07:35 The Importance of Setting Boundaries 10:01 Balancing Professional and Personal Boundaries 29:16 Cultural Differences in Boundaries 33:37 The Sacrifices of Ministry 33:54 Balancing Ministry and Family 34:21 The Concept of Attunement 35:14 Setting Boundaries in Ministry 36:34 The Weight of People Pleasing 37:37 Enabling vs. Empowering 38:13 Navigating Family Dynamics 39:33 The Importance of Self-Awareness 48:33 Friendship Boundaries 58:56 Work-Life Balance Challenges 01:06:34 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

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    Body Break

    This episode dives into the often overlooked topic of treating our bodies as temples of the Holy Spirit within the Christian faith. The hosts discuss their personal journeys with food and fitness, sharing insights on the benefits of physical discipline and healthy eating habits. They explore how maintaining one's physical health is not just about appearance but honours God and supports spiritual well-being. Alongside relevant scriptures, they touch on the dangers of food idolatry, the importance of balanced eating, and practical tips for integrating healthier habits into daily life.   00:00 Candy Cravings and Baking Temptations 01:19 Nostalgic Treats and Family Memories 04:08 Pretzel Preferences and Local Delicacies 06:23 Body Image and Health in Christian Perspective 08:43 Personal Health Journeys and Discipline 22:22 Balancing Food and Faith 31:09 Food as a Reward: Cultural Perspectives 32:18 The Sin of Gluttony 33:59 The Body as a Temple: Biblical Insights 34:45 Gnosticism and the Early Church 37:52 Practical Health Tips and Spiritual Discipline 43:07 The Impact of Sugar and Healthy Eating 47:06 The Importance of Physical Exercise 56:47 Parental Influence and Spiritual Leadership 01:03:37 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement

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    Millennial Faith

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the generational challenges faced by millennials and Gen Z in the church. They explore the transition from strict, uncommunicative upbringing methods to a more compassionate, explanatory, and intentional parenting style. The conversation delves into past church practices, the impact of internet and information overload, cultural shifts towards deconstruction, and the importance of authenticity and intentional relationships. They call for a reevaluation of how faith is taught and lived, emphasizing the importance of apologizing to children and ensuring that faith is a guide through vulnerable, real-life experiences. The hosts invite open dialogue and offer support for those hurt by the church or struggling with their faith.   00:00 Nostalgic Beginnings: Favourite Childhood Movies 02:09 Disney Channel Memories and Growing Up 02:42 Life in an RV and Disney Channel Shows 05:26 Millennial TV Shows and Christian Upbringing 14:56 The Impact of Internet and Information Overload 24:10 The Church's Struggle with Millennial Disillusionment 28:14 Aligning with God's Will 29:00 Generational Values in the Church 29:45 Consumer Christianity and Authenticity 31:03 Belief vs. Discipleship 32:52 Deconstruction and Its Challenges 39:36 The Importance of Apology in Faith 58:07 Teaching Children About Faith 01:04:07 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement

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    What's the Hurry?

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the pervasive culture of busyness that dominates modern life, especially in North America. They reflect on how different months seem continuously filled with activities, leaving little room for rest and contemplation. The conversation transitions to the biblical perspective on rest, emphasizing how living a hurried life contradicts the peaceful life God intends for Christians. They delve into the detrimental effects of hurry on relationships, spiritual health, and mental well-being. Practical advice is offered on how to slow down, prioritize, and regain balance in life, including examining and adjusting one's schedule, prioritizing spiritual disciplines, and finding genuine rest in God. Additionally, the discussion touches upon the importance of maintaining a healthy involvement in church activities without overcommitting and the significance of teaching children the value of rest and spiritual devotion. The hosts recommend key books such as 'The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry' by John Mark Comer and 'Emotionally Healthy Leader' by Peter Scazzero to further one's understanding and practice of intentional, unhurried living.   00:00 Introduction: The Busy Life 02:08 The Irony of Hurry 02:29 Cultural Pressures and Christian Life 04:55 Balancing Family, Work, and Faith 05:31 The Importance of Rest and Devotion 06:57 Biblical Lessons on Hurry 10:20 The Trap of Hustle Culture 19:04 Practical Steps to Slow Down 31:09 Evaluating Priorities and Simplifying Life 31:56 The Importance of Scheduling and Discipline 32:55 Handling Life's Challenges with Discipline 34:07 The Impact of Technology on Our Lives 37:30 Balancing Church and Personal Life 39:00 The Importance of Family and Church Commitment 42:41 The Need for Balance and Slowing Down 52:24 Practical Steps to Create Margin in Life 58:12 Recommended Resources for a Balanced Life

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    Judge Not?

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the daily dilemma of choosing between iced and hot coffee, especially when dealing with fluctuating temperatures. They explore the health implications of cold beverages and the habitual consumption of coffee. The conversation transitions to the critical topic of judgment within the Christian community. They tackle the common misinterpretation of 'judge not lest you be judged,' emphasizing accountability, gentle restoration, and the importance of addressing unrepentant sin within the church. The hosts also delve into the cultural influences that lead to misconceptions and the need for maturity in handling judgment and restoration. Additionally, they highlight the dangers of hypocrisy, gossip, and the proper approach to prayerful correction motivated by love and mercy.   00:00 Morning Coffee Dilemma 00:30 Health Impacts of Iced Drinks 01:05 Coffee Consumption Habits 04:52 Pharmaceutical Conspiracies 13:57 Judging Others: A Biblical Perspective 30:03 Judgment and Community Accountability 30:56 Christian Conduct and Judgment 31:57 The Role of the Church in Judgment 33:24 Restoration and Mercy 35:37 Living by God's Standards 37:51 The Importance of Mature Believers 40:24 Final Thoughts on Judgment and Mercy 01:00:32 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

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    Recognize Your Gifts

    In this episode of Squabbling Saints, we dive deep into the journey of discovering and embracing your spiritual gifts. Through engaging anecdotes and personal experiences, we explore the significance of recognizing and nurturing the unique talents God has bestowed upon each of us. Learn about the various types of gifts, from hospitality and administration to discerning of spirits and prophetic insights. Celebrate your purpose in the body of Christ, and understand how your unique role contributes to the thriving of the entire community. Whether you're seeking encouragement or practical advice on how to activate your gifts, this episode is packed with insights to empower and inspire you on your spiritual journey.   00:00 The Dog Sitting Revelation 01:40 Living in the Country 02:18 Travel Trailer Dreams 04:15 Podcast Struggles and Waffle House Debates 06:30 Recognizing and Using Your Gifts 30:44 The Cost of Leadership 31:28 The Weight of Ministry 33:44 Authenticity in Leadership 35:41 Discovering Your Purpose 38:06 Spiritual Gifts and Their Importance 40:55 Encouraging and Identifying Gifts 55:40 Balancing Service and Personal Life 57:54 Conclusion and Call to Action

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    Being Missional

    In this episode, the hosts discuss their experiences with Formula 1 racing and delve deep into the concept of living missionally, sharing insights on how it differs from traditional evangelism. They welcome Pastor Mauricio, who discusses his background, experiences in global missions, and the importance of being missional in one's everyday life. The conversation spans various topics including the significance of obedience, the power of prayer, and practical steps for integrating missional living into daily routines. They also highlight an upcoming event focused on relational evangelism training and the transformative impact of short-term mission trips.   00:00 Discovering the Fascination of F1 Racing 02:49 Introducing Pastor Mauricio 03:29 Evangelism and Outreach in the Western Church 04:19 A Journey Through Mexican Cuisine 07:02 Mauricio's Early Life and Calling 11:21 Missionary Work and Global Evangelism 17:57 Challenges and Realities of Missionary Work 25:53 Living a Missional Life 32:05 Gender Inclusivity and Blurred Lines 32:53 The Mission of Adam and Eve 33:44 Missional Marriage and Sacred-Secular Divide 36:13 Defining Missional Living 37:45 Practical Steps to Missional Living 41:12 The Importance of Prayer in Evangelism 58:56 Training and Mobilization for Mission 01:07:18 Conclusion and Call to Action

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    Evangelism... Ewww!

    In this episode of 'Squabbling Saints', the hosts discuss the various challenges and misconceptions surrounding evangelism. They touch on personal stories and statistics that highlight the hesitation people feel about sharing their faith. The conversation addresses the fear of rejection, lack of confidence, and cultural pressures that make evangelism difficult. They emphasize the importance of genuine relationships, living a life that reflects one's beliefs, and the role of the Holy Spirit in guiding these efforts. The episode wraps up with a prayer for boldness and encouragement for believers to embrace their calling to make disciples.   00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter 00:34 Late Night Snacking Habits 01:28 Annoying Eating Sounds 03:38 Parenting and Car Cleanliness 06:13 Fast Food Preferences 10:59 Evangelism and Personal Faith 32:06 Discomfort with Evangelism 32:43 Personal Experiences with Evangelism 33:32 Statistics on Evangelism 34:36 Challenges in Evangelism 35:32 Sharing Personal Testimonies 38:09 Global Evangelism and Personal Reflections 50:03 Overcoming Evangelism Barriers 01:01:42 Encouragement and Final Thoughts

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    What is Worship?

    In this episode of Squabbling Saints, we are thrilled to welcome Andrew Jones, the Executive Pastor at Embassy Church in Oshawa. Join us as we discuss Andrew's journey in ministry, his influence on worship, and the profound impact of living a life dedicated to God. Andrew shares his insights on the importance of preparation, community, and humility in worship leadership. Plus, we dive into a fun game of 'Taylor Swift or Worship,' and explore the evolving landscape of worship music. Whether you're a worship leader, a regular churchgoer, or someone looking to deepen your connection with God, this episode is packed with wisdom and humour that will leave you inspired. Don't miss this heartfelt conversation!   00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Andrew Jones 00:22 Heartfelt Tribute to Andrew's Influence 05:05 Andrew's Background and Family 07:22 Discussing Worship and Ministry 09:39 Fun Game: Taylor Swift or Worship Lyrics? 15:04 The Evolution of Worship Music 30:07 The Humility of Worship Leadership 31:44 The Role of Anointing in Worship 33:42 Creating a Worship Experience 34:30 Worship Beyond Singing 35:08 The Physicality of Worship 39:10 The Importance of the Worship Team 40:50 Private Devotion and Public Worship 43:35 Living a Life of Worship 51:52 The Evolution of Worship Music 56:15 Balancing Popularity and Authenticity in Worship 01:05:05 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

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    Going to Church

    In this episode, the gang discusses the importance of attending church and building community with fellow believers. They share humorous anecdotes and talk about personal growth through church involvement. The conversation transitions to addressing common reasons people avoid attending church, including past hurts and lack of excitement. Emphasis is placed on the significance of humbling oneself, serving others, and regularly engaging with the church body for spiritual health and maturity. The hosts stress the dangers of isolation and the benefits of being surrounded by a supportive community. They encourage viewers to seek connection, no matter where they are in their faith journey, assuring that initial uncomfortable steps can lead to beautiful, God-centered relationships.   00:00 Blooper Moments and Door Struggles 01:14 Post-Easter Reflections 02:20 Selena's Single Life and Ideal Partner 04:32 International Viewership and Portuguese Delights 06:02 Amen or Not: The Worship Song Debate 09:08 The Importance of Going to Church 29:36 The Dangers of Isolation 30:17 Impact of COVID on Church Attendance 31:20 The Importance of Community in Faith 32:50 Biblical Insights on Isolation 33:40 The Role of Church in Personal Growth 34:51 The Value of Accountability in Community 36:47 Challenges and Rewards of Church Involvement 40:14 Attitude and Expectation in Worship 52:02 Finding and Committing to a Church Community 01:00:13 Final Thoughts on Community and Service  

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    What is Christianese?

    In this episode, Chris and Justine dive into the peculiarities of Christian jargon, or 'Christianese', and its potential to confuse both new believers and outsiders. The conversation opens humorously with a light-hearted debate about cleanliness and how often one should shower, before diving into the heart of the episode: understanding and clarifying commonly used religious phrases. The hosts discuss terms like 'hedge of protection', 'fellowship', 'traveling mercies', and 'pot blessing' versus 'pot luck'. They also share stories that highlight the concept of 'divine appointments'—serendipitous moments orchestrated by God where believers can share their faith. Through personal anecdotes and thoughtful insights, this episode underscores the importance of being mindful of our language to avoid creating barriers in communication, and encourages listeners to live out their faith authentically.   00:00 Podcast Kickoff: Dirty Socks and Showers 00:33 Debating Shower Frequency and Hair Washing 02:07 Hair Care Routines and Personal Preferences 04:52 Introducing a New Segment: Amen or Ah, Nah 05:28 Reacting to a Controversial Church Video 08:59 Discussing Church Leadership and Accountability 13:38 Exploring Christianese and Its Impact 19:01 Funny Prayers and Modern Language 28:58 Accents and Language Adaptation 30:02 Understanding the Newfie Accent 32:12 Words Matter: The Power of Language 32:35 Biblical Phrases and Their Meanings 33:34 Church Practices and Misunderstandings 37:39 The Imperfection of the Church 47:59 The True Meaning of Being Blessed 51:30 Divine Appointments and Sharing Faith 57:38 Encouragement for Believers and Seekers 01:00:34 Conclusion and Social Media Plugs  

  27. 6

    Fear of the Lord

    In this episode, Chris and Justine discuss their experiences of losing power and water due to an ice storm and segue into an in-depth conversation about the fear of God. They explore the concept of fearing God not as terror but as awe and reverence. Using biblical references and personal anecdotes, they explain how the fear of God translates into recognizing His vastness, holiness, and the wisdom behind following His commandments. They also touch on the importance of maintaining spiritual routines, engaging in community worship, and creating intentional moments to experience God's presence. The episode concludes with practical advice on how listeners can cultivate a fear of God in their own lives through reading scripture, prayer, and community engagement.   00:00 Surviving Without Power and Water 01:58 Memories of the 1998 Ice Storm 02:55 Current Ice Storm Challenges 04:35 The Fear of God: Introduction 07:17 Understanding the Fear of God 08:46 The Role of Awe and Reverence 17:01 Biblical Examples of the Fear of God 29:11 Boundaries and the Fear of God 31:32 Setting Boundaries and Reflecting God's Nature 34:14 The Importance of Discipleship at Home 36:03 Cultivating a Fear of the Lord 38:43 Engaging with God in Worship and Curiosity 39:55 Obedience and Counter-Cultural Faith 43:37 The Personal Relationship God Desires 51:09 Practical Steps to Develop a Fear of God 56:55 Creating Holy Moments and Community Worship 01:01:07 Conclusion and Social Media Plugs

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    Mental Health

    Navigating Faith and Mental Health: An Insightful Discussion with  guest, Dr. Danielle Jeffrey   In this episode, the hosts have an engaging conversation with Dr. Danielle Jeffrey, a psychotherapist, about mental health and its intersections with faith. They discuss the importance of emotions as adaptive tools, how to support friends in their struggles, and the nuances of finding the right therapist. They touch on common fears about therapy, the role of therapeutic relationships, and navigating advice and validation in mental health challenges. Danielle shares personal anecdotes and professional insights, emphasizing the importance of understanding one’s emotions and the value of psychotherapy in holistic well-being.   00:00 Introduction and Casual Start 00:10 Meet Dr. Danielle: Professional and Personal Background 04:04 Deep Dive into Psychotherapy Practice 08:58 Parenting and Emotional Resilience 11:48 Faith, Mental Health, and Misconceptions 20:51 The Role of Emotions in Therapy 33:44 The Role of Guilt and Conviction 34:17 Reflecting on Intentions and Emotions 35:02 Challenges in Counseling and Advice 37:21 Balancing Trust in God and Personal Effort 39:01 Obstacles in Therapy and Self-Perception 50:41 The Importance of Validation and Support 53:01 Navigating Emotions and Seeking Professional Help 58:07 Finding the Right Therapist 58:35 Addressing Fears and Misconceptions About Therapy 01:11:54 Concluding Thoughts and Future Conversations

  29. 4

    Bible Reading

    In this episode, the Chris and Justine banter about their clapping techniques before diving into a deep discussion on the importance of reading the Bible. They argue over the merits of different translations, personal experiences with Bible reading plans, and the spiritual challenges that can impede regular Bible study. The hosts stress the importance of a daily routine for Bible reading, likening it to healthy habits like exercise. They also discuss the role of community and accountability in maintaining consistency in Bible study. The episode emphasizes the transformative power of the Bible and encourages believers to develop an appetite for God's word.   00:00 Introduction and Opening Banter 00:47 The Squabble: Making It a Thing 02:42 Social Media and Lent 03:58 Preferred Bible Versions 11:23 The Importance of Reading the Bible 30:24 The Importance of Knowledge in Faith 31:59 Engaging with God's Word 34:25 Knowing God Deeply 36:09 The Role of Scripture in Accountability 37:36 Commitment and Discipline in Faith 41:15 The Power of Scripture 45:58 Cultural Influences on Faith 53:56 Encouragement for Daily Scripture Reading 01:00:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

  30. 3

    People Pleasing

    In this friction packed episode Chris, Justine, and Intern Selina dive into the intricacies of people pleasing, both in everyday life and in ministry. They discuss its pitfalls, how it contrasts with serving God, and the necessity of balancing biblical knowledge with spiritual experiences. The conversation explores how ignorance can shield one from people pleasing, the difference between being liked and being authentic in your identity, and the importance of living to honour God above all else. The hosts emphasize the significance of spending time in God's Word and walking in the Spirit, recognizing that both are crucial for a healthy, discerning Christian life. The episode ends with a powerful quote from Selena: 'If you live for their acceptance, you'll die from their rejection.' 00:00 Intro and Setting the Scene 01:06 Mouth Tape and Breathing 03:00 Meet Intern Selena 03:34 Selena's Background and Faith Journey 06:48 Combat Boots and Worship 08:48 People Pleasing in Worship 22:14 Balancing Ministry and Personal Life 30:26 The Importance of Discernment 33:01 The Importance of Scripture and Discernment 34:40 Balancing Word and Spirit 35:09 Personal Experiences with God 36:57 Challenges in Ministry and Personal Growth 40:55 Western Christianity vs. Global Christianity 42:02 The Role of Prayer and Faith 50:06 Overcoming People Pleasing 01:00:39 The Fear of the Lord 01:06:42 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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    iDolatry: Phone Addiction

    iDolatry: Breaking Free from Phone Addiction This episode delves into the pervasive issue of phone addiction and its negative impacts on our lives, including diminished attention span, disturbed sleep, and diminished relationships with both people and God. The hosts discuss personal experiences, the societal shift caused by smartphones, and offer practical advice on setting boundaries and reducing screen time. While acknowledging the positive aspects of technology, they emphasize the importance of prioritizing life’s more meaningful aspects and finding balance.   00:00 Introduction and Clock Talk 00:21 Coffee Preferences and Keurig Debate 02:39 Diner Coffee and Coffee Snobbery 04:48 Auto-Tune and Music Trends 07:35 Phone Addiction and Social Media 29:41 Reflecting on Early Social Media Experiences 30:21 The Impact of Smartphones on Boundaries 31:11 Setting Boundaries with Technology 31:38 The Dilemma of Social Media Limits 32:56 The Struggle with Digital Distractions 33:55 The Role of Technology in Parenting 34:33 Breaking Free from Digital Idolatry 39:22 Balancing Knowledge and Faith 49:44 Practical Steps to Digital Detox 57:04 Prioritizing Jesus in a Digital World

  32. 1

    Round One: Squabble!

    Introducing Squabbling Saints: A New Podcast on Faith, Life, and Fun In this debut episode of Squabbling Saints, hosts Chris and Justine introduce themselves and share the vision for their new podcast. They discuss their backgrounds, their roles in the church, and their unique bickering dynamic that inspired the podcast. The hosts also explore the importance of tackling difficult conversations within the Christian community, such as theological differences and modern challenges in following faith. Additionally, they preview exciting future topics and guests, including discussions on mental health, youth engagement, and theological debates. The episode is filled with humor, friendly banter, and heartfelt insights into their mission to foster open, growth-driven dialogue in the church. 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Kickoff 00:30 Meet the Hosts: Justine and Chris 00:36 Debate: To Anchor or Not to Anchor 02:18 The Art of Squabbling 03:54 Navigating Faith and Deconstruction 07:04 The Importance of Community in Faith 08:36 Balancing Tradition and Modern Faith 12:09 Holistic Approach to Faith and Life 27:32 Discipleship and Personal Growth 30:56 Defining Richness in Life 31:52 Prioritizing Jesus in Daily Life 32:10 Sound Effects and Humor 33:14 Background Stories: Chris and Lindsay 35:55 Challenges and Blessings of Ministry 41:06 Balancing Church Responsibilities 49:48 Upcoming Podcast Plans 53:49 Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts

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Welcome to Squabbling Saints! We want to hash out the big stuff—faith, culture, the news, and those tricky theological questions. Honest conversations, a little back-and-forth, and a lot of fun as we dig into what it means to follow Jesus in today’s world.

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