Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z | Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25

Episode 26 – A Farewell and a Future: Closing the Stanford MBA ’95 Meets ’25 SeriesIn this final episode, host Katharine McLennan reflects on the full arc of the Stanford MBA ’95 meets MBA ’25 podcast series—25 episodes bridging two generations, born 30 years apart, at two pivotal moments in history: the dawn of the internet and the rise of artificial intelligence.With gratitude and insight, Katharine revisits the major themes explored throughout the series: leadership in times of disruption, the evolving role of AI, and the enduring importance of human connection across age, industry, and culture.She shares:Her top three takeaways from this intergenerational experimentA new leadership framework called VISTA: Vision, Intuition, Synergy, Trust, AuthenticityWhat’s next: a new book, solo podcast reflections, and a new series with the Stanford MBA Class of 2026This is more than a goodbye—it’s an invitation to continue choosing ingenuity over isolation, wisdom over noise, and intergenerational dialogue over division.🎓 Congratulations to the Stanford MBA Class of 2025. 🎉 See you in October, MBA Class of 1995. And thank you to all listeners for being part of this journey. Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast Series02:21 Generational Perspectives and Milestones03:23 Exploring Leadership Choices04:37 The VISTA Framework05:34 Key Insights from the Series06:40 Future Plans and Reflections07:29 Closing Thoughts and Farewell Join the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Carmen Gordon from the Stanford MBA Class of 2025. Carmen is a second-year MBA student originally from Spain, who previously worked in strategy consulting at McKinsey. She’s driven by a passion for social impact and has worked in the Philippines, Malawi, and Colombia, focusing on socioeconomic empowerment. During her time at Stanford, Carmen co-founded a startup exploring how AI can support freelance fashion designers and spent the summer in India and Europe, working with artisans and luxury brands to bridge cultures and commerce.This episode is bittersweet—it’s the last one I’ll record with a member of the Class of 2025 before I do a final wrap-up episode reflecting on all 25 conversations. I hope to continue the podcast in October with guests from the Class of 2026, and between now and Octobert, I’ll be sharing weekly solo reflections on the research behind my upcoming book, The Leader’s Choice in the AI World: Sinking into Inertia OR Catalysing Ingenuity.In this conversation, Carmen and I reflect on the differences—and surprising similarities—between our MBA journeys, 30 years apart. Carmen shares how technology is shaping the future of fashion and supply chains, and how her work is driven by a deep personal mission to foster meaningful livelihoods for artisans. We explore what it means to define success on your own terms, the courage it takes to walk your own path, and why reconnecting to your roots can be the most powerful leadership choice of all.Chapters00:00 Graduation Reflections and the Final Episode 03:11 Carmen’s Graduation Week and Pre-Graduation Rituals 04:26 Carmen’s Background and McKinsey Experience 05:53 The Differences in Entrepreneurial Culture 07:24 Comparing Paths: Consulting, Startups, and Career Ladders 11:00 The Social Impact Startup Journey 14:09 Carmen’s Malawi Inspiration and Volunteering 15:57 Launching the Startup with Classmates 17:38 Challenges with Emerging Markets and Luxury Brands 20:44 Rethinking the Design Process with AI 23:43 Generational Shifts: Big Picture vs. Implementation 28:29 Focusing on Designers: The AI Agent Project 31:32 AI as a Tool for Designers, Not a Threat 35:37 Generational Mindsets and Meaning in Work 38:47 Carmen’s Decision to Return to Spain 41:47 Balancing Career, Spirituality, and Roots 43:23 The Impact of Political Climate on International Students 45:33 Reunion Stories and Evolving Definitions of Success 47:27 The Bigger Picture of Technology and Meaning 49:49 Carmen’s International Adventures and Final Reflections 52:00 The Essence of Stanford and Redefining Success 54:26 Final Words and Emerson’s Quote on SuccessJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

🌟 “In healthcare, technology can optimize systems—but it’s the human connection that truly heals.”💡 “Leadership in crisis isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about showing up, staying real, and caring for people first.”🌱 “AI may reshape healthcare’s back office, but compassion will always be at its heart.” 🎙️ Episode 24 is live for the Stanford MBA ’95 meets MBA ’25 podcast, “From Baby Boomer to Gen Z.” This time, I’m joined by: ✨ Laura Zung (MBA ’94) – CEO of Lancaster Health Group, who led her family’s skilled nursing and Alzheimer’s care facilities through COVID’s darkest days. Laura’s reflections on technology, leadership, and human-centered care are raw and deeply moving. 🚀 Shelly Ngo (MBA ’25) – A second-year MBA student driven to expand healthcare access and affordability. Her journey—from growing up in East LA to shaping Gen AI solutions for hospitals—shows how personal loss can fuel purposeful change. 🎧 Together, we explore what it means to lead in an industry facing both crisis and transformation. From navigating generational divides to bridging the human-technology gap, this conversation is a testament to resilience, compassion, and the power of sharing real stories. 👉 Listen now and join us as we bridge 31 years of healthcare evolution and leadership lessons00:00 Graduation Reflections and Celebrations03:37 The Power of Storytelling in Education05:36 Transitioning to the Professional World07:33 Generative AI in Healthcare09:10 The Evolution of Healthcare Technology11:35 The Future of Healthcare and AI21:28 The Evolution of Patient Care and AI Integration25:00 Leadership Challenges During COVID-1931:04 Personal Journeys in Healthcare35:58 Skepticism Towards Technology in Healthcare42:07 Life Lessons and Personal Reflections47:53 New ChapterJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Bruce McNamer from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Batu Demir from the Class of 2025.Bruce is a philanthropic leader who has spent his life weaving together business, government, and global development. He’s currently President of the Builders Initiative, part of Lucas Walton’s Builders Vision, where he steers capital and grants toward environmental and social change. Before that, he led TechnoServe, drove strategy at JPMorgan Chase and McKinsey, served as a White House Fellow, and even worked as a Peace Corps volunteer in Paraguay. Bruce brings a rare mix of heart, systems thinking, and real-world impact to the conversation.Batu is a second-year MBA student who was born blind and is now charting new territory in both AI and accessibility. Originally from Izmir, Turkey, he’s worked at McKinsey, Google, and startups like WeWALK, while also competing as a professional blind soccer player. At Stanford, he co-founded the school’s Disability Club and has been a vocal advocate for designing tech with inclusion in mind from the start.Bruce and Batu explore how leadership, opportunity, and systems change intersect across three decades. We talk about building markets for good, AI as a tool for empowerment, and how each generation—Gen X and Gen Z—views risk, meaning, and purpose. It’s a deeply moving and often funny conversation across space, time, and values. 00:00 Introduction to Philanthropy and Accessibility08:09 Personal Journeys: Overcoming Challenges and Innovating Solutions13:41 Career Paths: From Consulting to Philanthropy17:44 Navigating Career Decisions in a Changing Landscape20:33 The Impact of AI on Accessibility and Education25:00 AI for Good: Exploring Opportunities and Ethical Considerations25:50 Creating a Bubble: The GSB Experience28:32 AI and Accessibility: Designing for All31:40 The Evolution of Business Models in Tech33:53 Government and Business: A Complex Relationship37:53 Economic Challenges: Lessons from Turkey41:43 Empowering Communities: The Role of Development44:02 Reflections on Relationships and Learning48:43 Finding Purpose: Advice for the Next GenerationJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today I’m joined by David Farlow from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Khalid Alajlan from the Class of 2025.David is a transformation leader whose career spans global banking, fintech, and operational turnarounds across Europe and the U.S. From senior roles at Capital One and Wells Fargo to leading large-scale transformations in fintechs and UK utilities, he brings deep expertise in productivity, regulation, and customer experience. These days, he splits his time between London and rural Ireland—working remotely from a village that boasts neither a pub nor a post office, but, he assures us, has both a chapel and a chocolate factory.Khalid is a second-year MBA student at Stanford GSB and one of the lead organizers of the recent student trek to Saudi Arabia. A former product manager in the satellite tech sector, he’s passionate about how technology bridges people and potential. He grew up in the UK and now plans to return home to Riyadh, drawn by the energy and opportunity of Saudi Arabia’s Vision 2030 transformation.In this episode, David and Khalid reflect on the evolution of global tech—David tracing a path from Mosaic to AI chatbots, and Khalid describing the rise of a startup culture in the Gulf. They discuss intergenerational shifts in leadership, education, and innovation, and what it means to bring wisdom, curiosity, and creativity to building the next economy—whether from a farm in Kerry or a high-rise in Riyadh00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene04:25 Future Aspirations and Career Paths05:20 Cultural Exchange: Saudi Arabia and the West07:27 The Evolution of Technology and Its Impact14:00 Saudi Arabia's Vision 2030 and Youth Engagement19:20 Government's Role in Economic Growth23:31 Comparing Experiences: UK vs. Saudi Arabia28:30 The Quest for a Silicon Valley in Saudi Arabia31:05 Cultural Perspectives and Education33:23 Attracting Talent to Saudi Arabia35:35 The Power of Alumni Networks37:47 Generational Perspectives on Change39:56 Funding Startups in Saudi Arabia41:51 The Shift in Career Choices43:45 Navigating Uncertainty in Business44:51 The Role of Natural Resources45:57 Education and Learning at Stanford49:09 AI in Education51:43 The Future of AI in Work53:38 The Evolution of Information Search55:43 Integrating Old and New Ideas57:40 Creativity in Business59:15 Connecting History with Modernity01:01:44 Final Thoughts and Future AspirationsJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Laura Francis from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Aislin Roth from the Class of 2025.Laura is the CEO of SI-BONE (Nasdaq: SIBN), a global leader in the medical device industry. She recently joined the board of Bruker Corporation (Nasdaq: BRKR), a life science and diagnostics company, and was previously a board member for Shockwave Medical (Nasdaq: SWAV) prior to its acquisition by Johnson & Johnson. She also serves as an executive board member of the Medical Device Manufacturers Association, advocating for the future of the medtech industry and mentoring the next generation of industry and medical professionals. Prior to SI-BONE, Laura held executive roles with both public and private life science companies, including Auxogyn (now part of Progyny, Nasdaq: PGNY), Promega Corporation, and Bruker Corporation. Earlier in her career, she was an Engagement Manager with McKinsey & Company and began her professional journey as an Audit Manager with Coopers & Lybrand, now PricewaterhouseCoopers. Aislin is a second-year MBA student at Stanford GSB, originally from Toronto, Canada. Before business school, she worked as a consultant at BCG and as Director of Strategy and Special Projects at Life House, a venture-backed hospitality technology startup. She also completed a pre-MBA growth equity internship at Georgian, investing in high-growth technology companies. After graduation, Aislin will join KKR’s private equity operations group in Menlo Park, helping portfolio companies drive operational improvements and growth. She is passionate about building companies from the inside, blending strategic insight with hands-on execution, and is drawn to the intersection of leadership, transformation, and long-term value creation. Together, we explore what it takes to grow companies—from venture-backed startups to public markets and private equity ow  nership. We talk about the challenges and rewards of CEO leadership, the new career pathways emerging for operators like Aislin, the evolving conversation around women in leadership, and the choices we all make between work, life, and purpose along the way.Chapters00:00 Women in Leadership: The Journey to CEOship13:33 Navigating the Public Company Landscape22:38 Balancing Career and Family: A Personal Perspective31:07 The Gender Dynamics in Business Leadership32:39 Navigating Career and Personal Life33:24 The Stanford Experience: Expanding Horizons35:58 Cultural Exposure and Diversity in Education37:16 Travel and Life Experiences40:08 Leadership and Purpose in Business46:48 Work-Life Integration: Balancing Career and Personal Goals52:46 The Impact of Technology and AI on Work58:14 Purpose-Driven Leadership in Today's WorldJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Glover Lawrence from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Vikram Kanodia from the Class of 2025.Glover is a highly respected M&A strategist and financial advisory executive with over 30 years of experience helping founders, CEOs, and boards drive growth across the technology sector. Calm under pressure and pragmatic in approach, Glover has built a career structuring, negotiating, and integrating major transactions—from leading corporate development at AspenTech and driving its $12 billion deal with Emerson Electric, to advising global technology firms through his work at Oracle, Hambrecht & Quist, and his own firm, McNamee Lawrence. Today, he continues this work as the Founder of North Hollow Advisors and a Partner at FounderPartners, while also serving on the boards of innovative technology companies like Arundo Analytics and Prevu3D.Vikram is a second-year MBA student at Stanford’s Graduate School of Business with a dynamic background in M&A, corporate strategy, and innovation. Prior to Stanford, Vikram worked at EY-Parthenon in New York, where he led the operationalization of major corporate divestitures across retail, healthcare, and industrial sectors. He then served as Manager in the CEO’s Office at Datamatics, driving M&A, go-to-market strategy, and helping build out the company's GenAI practice. Passionate about building value through business and technology, Vikram also brings creativity and perspective as an avid musician, photographer, and wildlife enthusiast. After graduation, he will return to India to help lead his family's technology business, celebrating its 50th year.In this conversation, Glover and Vikram offer a fascinating intergenerational view of the evolution of technology, leadership, and entrepreneurship. They explore how the rise of AI, shifting global markets, and the power of resilience and intention are reshaping what it means to build strong, lasting enterprises today.00:00 Introduction and Background11:05 Career Paths and Transitions20:54 Technology and Software Evolution26:37 India's Economic Landscape and Global Perception28:34 The Shift Towards a Consumer-Driven Economy in India30:42 The Future of Technology and Innovation in the U.S.30:57 Insights on AI and Future Trends32:35 Cultural Perspectives on Global Innovation34:34 The Impact of Immigration on U.S. Innovation36:30 Skepticism Towards Global Developments40:18 Government's Role in India's Business Infrastructure44:34 AI's Influence on Business Models50:48 Designing the Future of Work53:57 Reflections on Career Journeys and Lessons LearnedJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Steve Hochman from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Ayesha Karnik from the Class of 2025.Steve started two companies, selling both. His first was lucy activewear, a predecessor to Lululemon, which was sold to Vanity Fair Corp. He then moved into large company roles, leading new business development for a startup incubator at Intel and later overseeing global supply chain strategy for Nike, culminating as Nike’s Global VP of Retail Supply Chain. Passionate about sustainability, Steve went on to leadership roles at Bolt Threads, creating biodegradable spider silk, and Sseko Designs, a social commerce brand supporting economic independence for young women in Uganda through circular supply chains. Today, he consults to Global 500 clients on supply chain transformation at Nagarro, Inc.Ayesha Karnik is a second-year MBA student at Stanford. She has worked in strategy consulting at Dalberg Advisors and on growth strategy for Strive Health, a value-based kidney care company. Earlier, she served as a Health Policy Research Intern for the Council of Economic Advisors at the White House. Now, she is taking the leap to launch her own startup focused on developing an innovative blood-based cancer diagnostic test.Together, Steve and Ayesha explore the evolution of entrepreneurship at Stanford across 30 years, the intersection of business, science, and social impact, and the different ways their generations are shaping industries—from sustainable supply chains to healthcare innovation.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction and Background04:03 Reflections on Time and Relationships06:57 Aisha's Startup Journey10:02 The Evolution of Startups13:14 Stanford's Startup Ecosystem15:55 Learning and Growth at Stanford18:59 Steve's Career Path and Insights21:15 From Intel to Entrepreneurship: The Journey Begins22:43 Navigating Policy and Healthcare: Aisha's Shift26:00 Purpose-Driven Entrepreneurship: Steve's Philosophy30:12 Risk and Impact: The Balancing Act32:23 The Intersection of Science and Business37:26 Supply Chain Challenges in Innovation43:48 Global Perspectives: Supporting Women in Business53:16 Supply Chain Uncertainties and Agility54:45 Manufacturing Challenges in the U.S.01:01:40 The Role of AI in Business Strategy01:12:53 Reflections on Learning and Future AspirationsJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Brad Smith from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Yoshimi Muneta from the Class of 2025.Brad spent over 30 years leading IT and operations for companies like Uline, McMaster-Carr, PayNet, EthnicGrocer.com, CellNet Systems, and Accenture. In early 2025, he transitioned full-time into nonprofit leadership, now serving as Co-Chair of Project Redwood, a GSB-founded initiative fighting global poverty, as well as a board member of THRIVEGulu and advisor to a family-run school in Northern India that educates 1,300 under-resourced students.Yoshimi is a second-year MBA student at Stanford, passionate about building inclusive cultures, scaling innovation, and making ocean environments more accessible. Born and raised in Mexico with Japanese heritage, she specialized in retail and education consulting at EY-Parthenon before moving to Finland to spearhead Wolt (DoorDash)’s e-grocery expansion. Her launches in Cyprus and Malta became Wolt Market’s two most profitable markets — and now she’s exploring new frontiers at the intersection of education, HR tech, and ocean sustainability.Together, Brad and Yoshimi reflect on navigating uncertainty, shifting from achievement to meaning, and how leadership, creativity, and human connection shape careers across generations.Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Background03:56 Career Paths and Job Search07:14 Experiences in the Dot Com Boom09:54 E-Groceries and International Launches13:16 Navigating the Dot Com Crash15:52 Entrepreneurial Aspirations and Social Impact19:04 Shifts in Career Focus and Philanthropy22:07 Education and Making an Impact24:50 Generational Perspectives on Purpose28:03 Life Transitions and Future Plans32:28 Philanthropy and Giving Back37:10 Navigating Career Paths and Partnerships42:05 Ocean Conservation and Entrepreneurship48:20 The Impact of Technology on Philanthropy55:07 Advice for the Next GenerationJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Tony Ross from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Marc-Aurèle Stark from the Class of 2025.Tony spent nearly 22 years at Apple, leading Americas Operations after key roles in Worldwide Planning and Mac Product Operations. Now based in Park City, Utah, he serves on the advisory board of Crowdstake, a platform using crypto rewards to fund new initiatives — and he’s preparing for his second climb of Denali.Marc-Aurèle is a transformative sales leader, blending cutting-edge AI technology with human connection to redefine how companies drive growth. A second-year MBA student at Stanford, he’s led global teams at MuleSoft/Salesforce, shaped AI go-to-market strategies for startups, and brings the same energy to his passions for photography, indie film, and team-building — often with a mic in hand for karaoke.Together, Tony and Marc-Aurèle explore two awakenings — the internet in the 1990s and today’s AI revolution — and what it means to lead with purpose across generations..Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background02:22 AI Awakening: A New Era in Education05:23 The Evolution of Technology and Its Impact08:21 Reflections on Career Paths and Experiences11:20 The Role of AI in Education14:21 Sales as a Career Choice17:12 Corporate Responsibility and Environmental Impact20:19 Looking Ahead: Future Aspirations24:50 The Apple Case Study: Innovation and Sales Dynamics26:43 Navigating AI Sales: Understanding New Markets28:14 The Role of AI in Business: Use Cases and Applications31:19 Artificial General Intelligence: Definitions and Implications35:05 Education and the Socratic Method: Adapting to AI38:53 Life After Apple: Pursuing Passions and New Ventures41:48 Imagining the Future: A Day in an AI-Enhanced World43:27 Work and Purpose: Redefining Success Across Generations52:49 Climate Change: A Call for Intergenerational CollaborationJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Jason Lorber from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and David Goehring Freed from the Class of 2025.Jason is a consultant, comedian, and former Vermont legislator whose eclectic career has spanned politics, activism, and executive development. After earning his MBA at Stanford, Jason founded Aplomb Consulting and later served eight years in the Vermont House of Representatives, advocating for reforms in prison policy and public accountability. As a stand-up comic who once opened for Joan Rivers, Jason now brings the principles of improvisation into leadership coaching—helping teams find clarity, connection, and courage amid complexity. David is a second-year MBA student at Stanford GSB. Before business school, he worked at Walmart across capital markets, fintech, and international finance. This summer, he’ll join BCG in Boston, but he’s also building an aircraft maintenance company with his father—a venture rooted in safety, purpose, and generational partnership. At Stanford, David is co-leader of the R-Chucklers improv troupe and has discovered a deep commitment to authenticity and vulnerability as foundations of leadership. Together, Jason and David reflect on the power of improvisation as a life practice—from comedy stages to boardrooms to legislative chambers. They explore risk, reinvention, and the art of listening—reminding us that the best leaders don’t come armed with all the answers, but with a willingness to co-create what comes next. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Reconnecting and Backgrounds01:54 Life Changes and Relocation04:50 Improv and Its Impact07:52 The Role of Improv in Leadership10:57 Navigating Career Paths14:02 Legislative Experience and Public Service16:51 Career Choices and Family Business19:54 Comedy and Self-Expression30:25 The Joy of Comedy Nights34:04 The Art of Stand-Up: Preparation vs. Improvisation37:47 Improv Skills in Business42:07 Learning from Failure49:02 AI in Retail: Enhancing Creativity55:55 Navigating the Current World: Perspectives of a New GenerationJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today I’m joined by Nicole Chang from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Jesse Cai from the Class of 2025.Nicole is a powerhouse strategist, entrepreneur, and global executive who’s spent three decades helping companies grow from good to great to legendary—often leading them through ownership transitions, IPOs, and international expansion. With roots in investment banking, consulting, and C-suite leadership across North America, Asia, and Europe, Nicole brings depth, heart, and unstoppable energy to every venture—including a recent creative collaboration with her singer-songwriter daughter.Jesse is a second-year MBA student and former high-frequency trading leader who now balances part-time work at Hudson River Trading with finishing his final quarter at Stanford. With a background in computer science and a passion for algorithmic problem-solving, Jesse brings curiosity, candor, and a keen awareness of the ethical and cultural shifts shaping the future of AI and finance.Together, Nicole and Jesse reflect on what it means to lead, adapt, and stay human across wildly different industries, life stages, and eras—from Wall Street to Shanghai, and from startup bootcamps to AI bootstrapping. We explore how culture, courage, and creativity define success—no matter the decade CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction and Backgrounds03:50 Career Paths and Work Experiences07:00 High-Frequency Trading Explained09:58 Diversity and Role Models in Business13:16 Cultural Reflections and Asian American Identity15:49 The Evolution of Startups and Technology18:55 Personal Growth and Career Development30:57 The Essence of Leadership and Organizational Culture31:55 Experiences in Beijing: Leadership and Cultural Insights37:02 Navigating Cultural Expectations and Identity39:03 The Challenges of Returning to Roots43:14 The Impact of AI on Technology and Jobs45:46 Teaching the Next Generation: Creativity and Critical Thinking52:12 The Role of Creativity in Music and AI57:50 Reflections on Lifelong Friendships and Personal GrowthJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today I’m joined by Al Samuels from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Joel Johnson from the Class of 2025.Al is an award-winning stage, TV, and film actor, writer, and producer. He co-founded Spark Creative during our time at the GSB, bringing improvisation into business education long before it was a buzzword. His career spans Second City, Edinburgh Fringe, and dozens of corporate stages, all with a comedic twist and deep insight into team dynamics, creativity, and human connection.Joel is currently completing a dual degree at Stanford: an MBA and a Master of Science in Computer Science. He also earned his undergraduate degree at Stanford with a Bachelor of Science in Symbolic Systems.  During this time,  he served as Vice President of the Undergraduate Veterans. A former U.S. Marine Arabic linguist, Joel brings a rare mix of technical skill, leadership, and storytelling—now channeling it into a startup that makes it easier for families to capture and preserve oral histories.Together, we explore the creative tension between comedy and code, business and meaning, AI and ethics. This is a conversation about joy, agency, and improvisation—and why laughter might just be our best leadership skill in the face of a rapidly shifting world.CHAPTERS00:00 Reconnecting and Current Endeavors03:04 The Importance of Oral History06:12 Improv and Business School08:52 Psychology Experiments and Authority11:46 Military Experience and Personal Growth18:02 Navigating Career Choices and Life Changes23:59 Creativity in Business and AI Concerns30:19 Navigating Choices and Joy in Career Paths35:10 The Agony of Decision-Making41:34 Understanding Agency and Decision-Making48:22 The Impact of AI on Creativity and Employment01:02:28 Reflections on the Future of AI and HumanityCHAPTERSJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Carol Hamilton from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Lauren Maymar from the Class of 2025.Carol is a tech industry veteran and education advocate. After shaping the early days of e-commerce as VP of Online Sales at Oracle, she pivoted to community leadership—raising three children, supporting education through strategic fundraising, and now serving on the Student Affairs National Council at Washington University in St. Louis. With deep experience in high-growth environments and a passion for mental wellness and inclusion, Carol reflects on how leadership styles evolve with time and context.Lauren is a second-year MBA student at Stanford GSB and former product leader at Oura Ring, where she helped scale the health tech company through COVID and beyond. With hands-on experience in wearable tech, AI, and consumer healthcare, she’s now exploring how innovation can transform the U.S. healthcare system. Her vision? Using tech to empower healthier lives—especially through solutions that are more accessible, more personal, and more humane.Together, Carol and Lauren explore how leadership, health, and technology have shifted over 30 years—from the launch of online sales in 1995 to today’s AI-powered wellness platforms. It’s a conversation about resilience, reinvention, and the unexpected chapters that shape our work and lives.CHAPTERS00:00 Revisiting the Past: Career Journeys04:00 E-Commerce Evolution: A New Frontier07:01 Health Tech Innovations: The Oura Ring Experience10:01 Leadership Lessons: From Corporate to Community13:04 Education and Diversity: A New Generation's Perspective16:06 Reflections on Adversity: The Stanford Experience19:37 The Importance of Communication in Leadership20:57 Memorable Moments in Business School24:55 Navigating Sociopolitical Changes25:24 The Rise of AI in Education31:12 Ethics and AI in the Workforce33:23 Future Aspirations in Healthcare38:07 The State of Healthcare and AI41:11 Innovative Approaches to Healthcare Challenges44:14 Consumerization and Longevity in Health47:07 Cultural Shifts in Health Awareness50:07 Personal Passions and Life Lessons53:09 Embracing Change and Flexibility56:08 Final Thoughts and Future Aspirations01:03:56 New ChapterJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Jillian Leslie from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Mehek Mohan from the Class of 2025. Jillian is a creative entrepreneur, podcast host, and digital business builder. Before co-founding MiloTree, a platform that helps content creators grow and monetize their audiences, Jillian worked as a screenwriter in Hollywood. She also hosts The Blogger Genius Podcast, where for over seven years she’s interviewed top minds in the world of digital entrepreneurship. Her journey blends storytelling, tech, and a deep understanding of what today’s audiences need. Mehek is a second-year MBA student at Stanford GSB with a background in molecular biology and AI-driven healthcare. After leading automation projects at Genentech, she’s now building Kahani—a personalized, tech-enabled eating disorder recovery platform. Combining her experience in biotech and product innovation with a mission to destigmatize mental health, Mehek is pushing the boundaries of how digital companions and micro-therapies can support meaningful healing. Together, Jillian and Mehek explore how storytelling, technology, and entrepreneurship are reshaping mental health, recovery, and what it means to connect with others—across generations and digital platforms. It’s a conversation about creativity, courage, and designing tools that speak to the human experience.Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Backgrounds03:59 The Journey of Kahani: A Recovery Platform07:01 The Role of AI in Mental Health10:09 Storytelling and Content Creation13:02 Building a Digital Companion for Recovery16:02 Engagement and User Experience in Recovery19:01 Creativity in Business and Content Creation22:02 Lessons from Building a Business25:02 Iterating and Adapting to User Needs28:10 Finding Purpose in Creativity29:49 Navigating Career Paths and Personal Growth31:01 The Journey into Healthcare and Entrepreneurship33:56 The Impact of Personal Experiences on Business Ideas36:51 Life as a Series of Chapters40:13 Learning from Different Generations45:10 Building Networks and Maintaining Values53:01 Reflections on Personal and Professional GrowthJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Kathy Sarlson from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Andrew Lobel from the Class of 2025.Kathy is the National Director of Life & Legacy, a philanthropic initiative helping Jewish organizations across North America build endowments through legacy giving. With over 35 years of nonprofit leadership, she’s helped raise tens of millions of dollars in planned gifts while strengthening Jewish community institutions in healthcare, housing, and education. She holds degrees from the University of Michigan, Harvard Divinity School, and Stanford GSB. Andrew is a second-year MBA student at Stanford and the current president of the Jewish Business Students Association. Before business school, he worked in private equity at New Mountain Capital and will join Avesi Partners after graduation. A Harvard graduate, Andrew brings a long-standing commitment to Jewish leadership, community service, and deep, reflective dialogue.  Together, we explored how Jewish identity shapes leadership, workplace culture, and moral courage in times of global and personal uncertainty. From the aftermath of October 7th, 2023, and its impact on Jewish communities worldwide, to the evolving role of business leaders in complex social debates, Kathy and Andrew reflect across three decades of Stanford experience—offering a generational handoff of purpose, resilience, and the power of authentic conversation.Chapters:00:00 Andrew's Background and Jewish Identity05:44 Kathy's Journey and Activism History09:32 Responses to Recent Events and Campus Climate14:15 Contrasting Experiences at Stanford and GSB17:51 University Responses to Political Events21:33 Lessons from Harvard and Facilitation Skills23:44 Conversations on Anti-Semitism and Institutional Responses26:06 The Role of Personal Experiences in Advocacy27:28 Building Compassionate Conversations30:02 The Importance of Empathy in Difficult Discussions31:42 Aligning Personal and Organizational Values33:26 Navigating Workplace Dynamics and Values35:37 Bringing Spirituality into the Workplace39:25 Creating Meaningful Team Connections41:12 Future Aspirations and Authenticity in Career Choices44:59 Generational Perspectives on Activism47:23 Encouraging Engagement and Activism in Youth50:03 Balancing Career and Family Values52:00 The Value of Meaningful ConversationsJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

🎙️ Today, I’m joined by Pam Fox Rollin from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Pragati Rastogi from the Class of 2025.Pam is a renowned executive coach and strategist, partnering with C-level leaders and top teams to drive bold, integrated change. With deep roots in healthcare, strategy, and leadership development, Pam brings a rare mix of analytical precision and human insight to the world’s most complex organizations.Pragati is a second-year MBA student and former strategy consultant who has worked across India, the Middle East, and Africa to expand healthcare access. At Stanford, she’s leading a Global Study Trip to Taiwan and Singapore focused on healthcare equity, while exploring how technology and AI are reshaping the sector.Together, we explore how healthcare has evolved over the last 30 years, how today’s students are redefining leadership, and what it really means to integrate strategy, humanity, and meaning in a rapidly shifting world.00:00 Introduction and Busy Lives03:58 Global Study Trips: Exploring Healthcare Innovations07:00 Healthcare Perspectives: Learning from Taiwan and Singapore09:59 Personal Journeys: From India to Stanford13:12 Bio Design: Integrating Healthcare and Innovation16:09 Passion and Pressure: Navigating Career Choices19:00 Leadership and Coaching: Shaping Future Leaders22:13 Multi-Generational Learning: Bridging the Gap25:03 Conclusion: Embracing Change and Serendipity32:26 The Evolution of Technology Adoption33:58 AI in Education and Business36:46 The Human Element in Leadership39:56 Integrating Soft Skills with AI41:34 Navigating Political Conversations46:45 The Role of Leadership in a Changing World50:52 Building Bridges Through Dialogue53:57 Ethics and Values in Business Decisions58:24 The Future of Board Governance01:03:04 New ChapterJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Volker Schmidt from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Laura Kiehl from the Class of 2025. Volker is a seasoned investor and leadership advisor with deep roots in Europe’s Mittelstand. He began his career at BCG before co-founding EMERAM Capital Partners and later Blue Ocean Partner, helping small and mid-sized companies scale through growth strategy and private equity. Laura is a second-year MBA student at Stanford GSB, originally from Germany and Poland. Before business school, she worked in consulting at BCG and co-founded an initiative supporting First-Generation professionals. At Stanford, she’s explored everything from HealthTech VC to women’s entrepreneurship as a co-lead of Galvanizer, the school’s accelerator for MBA female founders. In this episode, Volker and Laura share perspectives on European identity, career reinvention, and what it means to lead across generations. From kite-surfing off Cape Verde to navigating AI-powered classrooms at Stanford, their dialogue spans continents, industries, and life stages—offering practical wisdom and unexpected laughter along the way.Chapters00:00 Spring Break and Academic Pressures03:58 Travel Adventures and Kite Surfing07:09 Career Paths and Educational Journeys10:11 Search Funds and Business Acquisitions13:00 Cultural Perspectives on Risk and Entrepreneurship15:55 Long-Term Commitments in Business18:56 Reflections on Career Choices and Life Goals23:13 Navigating Identity and Background in Business School26:39 The Weight of Responsibility and Legacy28:22 Shifting Perspectives on Life and Career32:33 Political Climate and Campus Discussions33:05 Bridging Divides Through Dialogue36:30 The Future of Europe in a Changing World38:38 Embracing Opportunities Amidst Challenges41:56 The Impact of AI on Future Generations45:41 The Evolution of AI and Business Models47:02 AI in Education: Efficiency vs. Creativity50:22 The Impact of AI on Daily Life53:31 Generational Perspectives on AI and Social Media57:02 Navigating the Challenges of AI and Mental Health01:01:01 Bridging Generational Gaps and Global Mindsets Join the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Van Ton-Quinlivan from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Sarah Tang from the Class of 2025. Van is a national thought leader in workforce development and currently serves as CEO of Futuro Health, a nonprofit growing the largest network of allied healthcare workers in the U.S. Her career spans roles in high tech, government, and nonprofit leadership, including serving as Executive Vice Chancellor for the California Community Colleges and being appointed by the Governor of California to shape statewide health workforce education strategy. Sarah is a dual-degree MBA-MA student at Stanford, combining business and education to reimagine workforce readiness. She’s taught in Malaysia through the Fulbright Program, worked in strategy at BCG and Teach For All, and now co-leads the GSB Education Club. Her focus is on scalable, inclusive learning pathways that empower people with real-world skills in the age of AI. Van and Sarah explore how education systems can evolve to meet the accelerating demands of work and society. They reflect on AI’s impact in the classroom and workplace, the changing value of credentials, and the practical challenge of making lifelong learning accessible. Across generations, their conversation points to a shared hope: that innovation in education—when grounded in equity and systems thinking—can unlock opportunity at scale.00:00 Introduction and Backgrounds03:00 Exploring Education and Personal Journeys06:06 The Role of AI in Education12:13 Community Colleges and Workforce Development16:00 The Impact of AI on Curriculum Development20:56 Healthcare Education and Future Workforce26:00 International Perspectives on Education28:54 Navigating Technology in Education29:57 Diversity in the Classroom31:22 The Future of Community Colleges34:46 Workforce Development and Education37:03 Challenges in Healthcare Education41:43 Personal Growth and Career NavigationJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

See chapter timings below this introduction: Today, I’m joined by Kevin Steinberg from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995 and Michael Bakan from the Class of 2025. Kevin is a seasoned executive with over 25 years of operating experience founding, leading, and scaling some of the world’s most prominent professional services and talent-centric organizations. He is currently the Founder and Chairman of Ascent Leadership Networks, an advisory and executive talent development firm. His past leadership roles include CEO, COO, and President positions at the World Economic Forum, Purpose, Spencer Stuart’s leadership consulting practice, and The Brattle Group.Michael is a second-year MBA student at Stanford GSB. Before business school, he worked in management consulting at Accenture, where he led digital transformation efforts and helped build the firm’s financial services sustainability practice. Outside the classroom, Michael brings his passion for sports to life—he helped run a girls’ youth basketball program on Nike’s Elite Youth Basketball League and recently spent part of his MBA summer working at the historic Royal Dornoch Golf Club in ScotlandKevin and Michael offer intergenerational perspectives, weaving together lessons from the 1990s global business boom with today’s tech-infused, socially aware leadership landscape. Kevin reflects on his journey from McKinsey to the World Economic Forum and beyond, emphasizing people strategy, systemic risk, and the evolving role of leadership. Michael, a second-year MBA, shares insights from Stanford’s culture of deep interpersonal connection, AI’s rising influence, and his own search for meaning, values, and overlooked industries beyond the Silicon Valley bubble. Together, they explore how leadership, purpose, and human connection remain central, even as technology and geopolitics reshape the path forward 00:00 Introduction and Backgrounds06:01 Navigating Life After GSB08:52 The Importance of Relationships10:52 Experiences at Stanford GSB13:48 Career Paths and Leadership Development16:33 The Impact of Technology and AI19:06 Exploring Overlooked Industries22:17 Exploring Diverse Interests and Industries23:30 Shifting Perspectives on Geopolitical Risks25:54 Integrating Geopolitical and Socioeconomic Factors27:08 Insights from International Experiences31:38 Navigating Career Anxieties and Decisions33:30 Reflections on Reunions and Career Journeys35:20 Current Experiences at Stanford39:06 Developing People Skills and Leadership42:43 Lessons from Influential Leaders45:27 Reflections on 30 Years of Growth48:36 Hopes for the Future and AccompanimentJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Russell Eggers, a seasoned executive from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995. Now a CEO and board director, Russell brings over 40 years of operational leadership across mining, aviation, and industrial enterprises. He’s known for turning strategy into growth in “old school” businesses—and for speaking candidly about the power of humility, hiring well, and staying grounded in the real economy. Joining him is Michael Liu, a second-year MBA student from the Class of 2025. Born in China, raised in Sydney, and soon to be based in New York, Michael brings a global perspective on finance—from investment banking at Goldman Sachs, to private equity at Warburg Pincus, to public equity investing at T. Rowe Price. At Stanford, he holds multiple leadership roles and is deeply interested in AI, economics, and equity market dynamics. Together, Russell and Michael explore what it means to lead across generations, industries, and ideologies—from manufacturing floors to Wall Street trading desks.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction and Backgrounds04:10 Cultural Perspectives: New Zealand vs Australia07:08 Educational Journeys and Career Paths10:14 Private Equity Landscape in Australia13:04 Differences Between Private Equity and Venture Capital15:59 Transitioning to Public Equity19:16 The Future of Manufacturing and AI22:06 Financial Considerations of Education25:00 Trends in Career Choices27:59 Investment Focus in Public Equity31:03 Conclusion and Reflections31:38 The Role of AI in Manufacturing and Data Analysis32:52 Understanding Clientele and Competition in Finance36:02 Active vs. Passive Investing: Finding the Edge39:51 The Importance of Talent in Business41:48 Navigating Age and Experience in the Workplace46:49 AI's Transformative Impact on Business Processes53:28 Concerns About Technology and Misinformation01:01:02 Shifting Values: Family, Friends, and Career PerspectivesJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

I’m Katharine Keough McLennan, Stanford MBA Class of 1995 alumna; I am the creator, producer and facilitator for this series in which I have the honour of hosting each episode with a different pair of two Stanford MBA generations—one from my Class of 1995 and the other from the Class of 2025.Our dialogues explore the profound shifts both of these classes saw in the "Changing of the Eras" :The Class of 1995 graduated at the dawn of the internet, heralding the Information Age emerging from the Industrial Age. Some of our classmates are considered global internet pioneers, and the companies they created are well-known worldwide. Our class is now in our 60s. The Class of 2025 enters the next era as we witness the rise of artificial intelligence. Information is a commodity and no longer describes an "era." They now grapple with a very different world than we did 30 years ago -- not only in technology but also in politics, economics, social connections, environmental challenges, and legal dynamics. They are in their 30s. Together, we unpack the possibilities: Will AI spark a new era of human creativity and connection that I call the Inspiration Age? Or will it deepen disconnection, ushering in an Isolation Age?This podcast is a "wisdom exchange" across generations, blending the hard-won lessons of my peers in their 60s with the bold vision of leaders in their 30s. Through candid, inspiring, and often humorous conversations, we reflect on aspirations, anxieties, and challenges while envisioning a future shaped by collaboration, ingenuity, and integrity—a call to action for a world where technology serves humanity. For updates and more, visit katharinemclennan.comLet’s shape the Integration Age, together.Join the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

Today, I’m joined by Peter Crawford, a seasoned executive from the Stanford MBA Class of 1995. As CFO at Charles Schwab for seven years, Peter was instrumental in growing the company’s client assets under management from $1 trillion to $10 trillion during his two decades of leadership. Now transitioning into retirement, he is focusing on board work, community service with the Boys & Girls Club of San Francisco, and personal passions like skiing and guitar.Joining us is Doug Phipps, a second-year MBA student from the Class of 2025. Doug is a social entrepreneur and educator with a background in theatre and teaching. He founded Student Productions, a peer-led theatre program in Washington, D.C., fostering creativity and connection among teenagers. At Stanford, Doug is pursuing a dual degree with the School of Education, focusing on innovative solutions for student engagement and addressing post-COVID learning loss while also leading in the Education Club.Peter and Doug offer distinct perspectives, contrasting the tech-driven excitement of the 1990s with today’s AI-powered, socially conscious business environment. Peter reflects on leadership, purpose-driven work, and building a client-first culture at Schwab. Doug discusses the evolving educational landscape, AI’s role in learning, and Stanford’s emphasis on sustainability and inclusion.Join the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

This is Episode 4. Today, I’m joined by Fran Sachs, a senior executive with over 25 years of experience growing service businesses and driving organisational change. Fran’s career includes roles in Fortune 500 companies, middle-market organisations, and start-ups. For the past 17 years, she and her husband have optimised supply chain and logistics for their clients through their business.Joining us as well is Kate Kabat, a second-year dual-degree MBA-MS student in Stanford’s Emmett Interdisciplinary Program in Environment and Resources (E-IPER). Kate has worked in management consulting at Bain & Company and on growth strategy for BioLite, a clean energy company in Nairobi. This summer, she is expanding access to clean energy as an Investments Fellow with the Nevada Clean Energy Fund while enjoying Reno’s hiking trails.Fran and Kate bring diverse perspectives, reflecting on their journeys and the evolving business landscape. Fran shares leadership lessons from her career, including building and leading businesses in Florida, while Kate highlights Stanford’s focus on sustainability and her work with the Nevada Clean Energy Fund. Together, they explore adaptability, the power of human connection, and the enduring importance of leadership in a rapidly changing world.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Participants06:05 Fran's Career Journey and Transition07:54 Kate's Stanford Experience and Climate Initiatives09:42 Evolution of Climate Discussions at Stanford11:10 Leadership Development at Stanford15:10 Impactful Classes and Learning Experiences24:40 Leadership Lessons from Career Transitions32:02 Key Takeaways for Future Entrepreneurs35:01 Stanford's Support for Social Impact Initiatives37:56 Internship Experiences and Career Paths38:55 Diversity in the Current Stanford Class40:02 Cultural Exchange and Learning Opportunities42:00 Gender Dynamics in Business Education43:51 Navigating Marriage and Career45:55 The Impact of AI on Education and Work53:56 Academic Focus and Personal Growth56:53 Advice for Future Generations01:07:59 For more insights , subscribe to this podcast series and visit katharinemclennan.comJoin the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

This is Episode 3. Today, I’m joined by Michael Rodriguez from the Class of 1995, a distinguished CEO and director in early-stage companies with a focus on healthcare innovation, who now also teaches managerial accounting and business ethics at Baylor University’s Hankamer School of Business and Kailash Sundaram from the Class of 2025, a former member of the White House Biden Administration, venture capitalist, and advocate for sustainable capitalism with AI-driven solutions.Michael and Kailash share their unique perspectives from the healthcare and venture capital sectors. Reflecting on their experiences, they delve into the evolving landscape of business education, the impact of AI on creativity, and the critical need for mentorship and patient care. Their conversation highlights the importance of adaptability, aligning profit with purpose, and embracing failure as a path to success, all while underscoring the lifelong value of personal connections formed during their time at Stanford.Join the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

This is Episode 2. Today, I’m joined by Jeff Barnett from the Class of 1995, a seasoned hedge fund executive, classical singer extraordinaire and multiple award recipient for his service to Stanford over the years, and Zach Dyce from the Class of 2025, an entrepreneur who intends to transform the way the American health system through Medicare can deliver addiction care through the application of AI. Today, I’m joined by Jeff Barnett from the Class of 1995, a seasoned hedge fund executive, classical singer extraordinaire and multiple award recipient for his service to Stanford over the years, and Zach Dyce from the Class of 2025, an entrepreneur who intends to transform the way the American health system through Medicare can deliver addiction care through the application of AI. In this conversation, we reflect on the evolution of business education, the role of AI, and the importance of diversity. Through personal stories, we explore generational views on leadership, social impact, and the challenges of today's world, emphasising the enduring value of collaboration, networking, and friendship in addressing global issues.Join the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/

This is Episode 1—a 20-minute episode. I introduce myself, Katharine McLennan, a Stanford MBA Class of 1995 member, an organisational culture and leadership consultant, and an avid explorer of the intersections between leadership, culture, strategy, and human potential. In this inaugural episode, I share the inspiration and vision for this podcast series, which bridges the wisdom and experiences of two generations—my classmates, now in our 60s, give or take, and the Class of 2025, just entering their 30s, give or take.I also set the scene for our dialogue by reflecting on each class's unique transitions. My classmates, born at the cusp of the Baby Boomer and Generation X eras, navigated the dawn of the Internet in 1995, a moment I define as the start of the Information Age. In contrast, the Class of 2025, born at the intersection of the Millennial and Generation Z waves, faces the dawn of artificial intelligence in 2025, where information is no longer scarce but abundant and commoditised.I end the episode by contrasting possibilities for a future shaped by AI: the Inspiration  Age, a time of revived human imagination, integrity, inclusiveness, and intuition, and the Isolation Age, where technology risks deepening disconnection, fueling loneliness and anxiety. This series is a space to explore these themes, foster meaningful connections across generations, and ignite conversations that matter.Join the Podcast Series Stanford MBA: From Baby Boomer to Gen Z |  Class of ‘95 Meets Class of ‘25  Each of these episodes will feature a different pair of Stanford MBA people -- one from the class of 1995, and one from the class of 2025.  Remember to rate, review, and subscribe to stay connected with future episodes!📺 Also available on YouTube: Entire series playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSaVisoF0D_GKxVmHmakNxdpAJCb5_VTPMore info: https://www.katharinemclennan.com/ Contact: [email protected] Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinemclennan/