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The Bold Grace Podcast
by Grant Hawley and Thani Abuhamad
Join hosts Grant Hawley and Thani Abuhamad as they explore the intersection of scripture and missions in the Bold Grace Podcast. Each episode dives into biblical truths with a focus on unity, cultural challenges, and the life-changing power of grace.From deep dives into books of the Bible to inspiring stories of global missions, BGP equips believers to live out their faith authentically. Whether navigating cultural divides or seeking encouragement, you’ll find practical insights and a bold call to action.
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2 Corinthians 3 & The Veil that Hides a Fading Glory — Bold Grace Podcast EP16
In this episode, Thani and Grant dive deep into 2 Corinthians 3, unpacking Paul's comparison between the fading glory of the Old Covenant and the surpassing glory of the New Covenant through the Spirit. They discuss the metaphor of the veil, Moses' boldness (or lack thereof), and how many today still struggle to see the full freedom and brilliance available in Christ. Through theological insights and pastoral reflections, the hosts explore what it means to behold the glory of the Lord with unveiled faces—and be transformed by it.📩 If you’ve enjoyed our study on 2 Corinthians, have questions, or want to support Grant’s ministry, reach out at [email protected].Chapters:[00:00] Introduction to 2 Corinthians 3[01:48] Context of 2 Corinthians and Paul's Defense of His Ministry[03:55] Ministers of the New Covenant: Law vs. Spirit[13:55] Glory That Fades vs. Glory That Endures[23:03] Moses’ Veil and the Hiddenness of Fading Glory[29:56] Liberty in the Spirit vs. Bondage Under the Law[35:05] Beholding Christ with an Unveiled Face[40:26] Renouncing Deceit in Ministry and Glory of God in the Face of Jesus Christ[46:18] Living in the Light vs. Returning to the Shadows[53:33] Sovereignty, Freedom, and Personal Impact[60:38] Final Thoughts
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Why Does Legalism Fail? Q&A About the Law (Pt. 2) — Bold Grace Podcast EP15
In this second part of our discussion on the Mosaic Law and sanctification, we focus on Romans 7 and ask: Why doesn’t the Law produce practical righteousness? Grant breaks down Paul’s argument that even the holy and good Mosaic Law cannot sanctify, and unpacks how living by the Spirit is fundamentally different from living by legalism. We also explore Colossians 2’s warnings against man-made regulations, the global diversity of Christian legalism, and practical steps to walk in grace and help others do the same. If you’ve ever felt the weight of unspoken Christian rules, this episode is for you.📩 If you’ve enjoyed our study on the Law, have questions, or want to support Grant’s ministry, reach out at [email protected].Chapters:[00:00] Introduction[01:13] Why doesn’t the Mosaic Law produce practical righteousness?[19:04] How does Romans 3:31 mean we “establish” the Law?[43:07] Does Paul’s warning apply to all forms of legalism?[48:53] Why is legalism so appealing to us?[52:54] What does legalism look like in modern church cultures?[59:20] How can we help others break free from a legalistic mindset?[64:26] Final Thoughts
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Should Christians Obey the Law? Q&A About the Law (Pt. 1) — Bold Grace Podcast EP14
In this special Q&A-style episode, Grant and Thani pivot from exposition into exploration—asking some of the biggest questions surrounding how church-age believers are called to interact with the Mosaic Law. Does the Old Testament law still reveal God’s moral will? What does it mean to live by the Spirit rather than by the Law? Are Jesus’ commandments the same as the Law of Moses? And how should we apply “all Scripture” in 2 Timothy 3:16 today? Grant unpacks these questions with theological clarity and pastoral insight, building on themes from previous episodes in Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, and Colossians.📩 If you’ve enjoyed our study on the Law, have questions, or want to support Grant’s ministry, reach out at [email protected].Chapters:[02:09] Does the Mosaic Law reveal God's heart for how we should live now?[14:43] What does it mean to live by the Spirit—and not by the Law?[28:33] How should we interpret 2 Timothy 3:16 in light of the Law?[45:21] What did Jesus mean by keeping and teaching the commandments in Matthew 5?[53:50] What are Jesus’ commandments in John 14?[56:33] How should Church Age believers interact with the Old Testament Law?
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Colossians 3–4 & Effective Character — Bold Grace Podcast EP13
In this episode, Thani and Grant finish their walkthrough of Colossians, focusing on chapters 3 and 4. Grant unpacks Paul’s emphasis on Christ’s sufficiency, spiritual maturity, unity in the body, and how love functions as the "perfect ligament" that binds believers together. They also discuss how submission stems from gospel-centered relationships, and they reflect on Paul’s concluding personal greetings. Along the way, Grant shares updates on upcoming Bold Grace Institutes around the world and thoughts on parenting and spiritual leadership.📩 If you’ve enjoyed our study on Colossians, have questions, or want to support Grant’s ministry, reach out at [email protected].Chapters:[00:00] Intro and Overview of Colossians 3–4 [01:08] Grant's Upcoming Trip to Uganda[03:34] Bold Grace Bible Institutes Around the World[05:00] Recap of Chapters 1–2 and Setup for Chapter 3[06:46] Dead and Raised Together with Christ (3:1–4)[16:24] Putting Personal and Relational Sin to Death (3:5–10)[20:06] The New Man Is the Body of Christ (3:10–11)[26:49] Clothing Ourselves with Christlike Character (3:12–13)[31:19] The Role of Love as the Perfect Ligament (3:14)[36:08] Peace as a Governing Force in the Body (3:15)[38:52] The Word of Christ and the Role of Admonishment (3:16–17)[42:44] Spiritual Maturity and the Path to Submission (3:18–4:1)[54:43] Letting Our Speech Be Full of Grace (4:2–6)[56:35] Final Greetings and Ministry Team (4:7–15)[60:58] Closing Words and Reflections (4:16–18)[63:26] "Was Paul Influenced by Luke's Medical Background?"[65:11] Final Thoughts
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Colossians 1–2 & The Fullness of Christ — Bold Grace Podcast EP12
In this packed episode, Thani and Grant explore the theological depth of Colossians 1 and 2, emphasizing the believer’s completeness in Christ, Paul's passionate mission to the Gentiles, and the strong warnings against legalism. Grant walks through the themes of fullness, spiritual inheritance, and freedom from the law, connecting Paul's prison epistle to Ephesians, Galatians, and Romans.📩 If you’ve enjoyed our study on Colossians, have questions, or want to support Grant’s ministry, reach out at [email protected].Chapters:[00:00] – Introduction[01:14] – Colossians as a Prison Epistle[03:29] – Paul’s Opening Prayer (1:1–8)[05:32] – Full Knowledge ‹ ἐπίγνωσις › vs. Legalism (1:11–13)[16:02] – Christ: Creator & Sustainer (1:14–20)[21:44] – Blameless at the Judgment Seat without Legalism (1:21–27)[31:45] – Paul's Love for the Colossians (1:28–2:3)[35:31] – Remaining as They Received (2:4–10)[38:36] – Freedom from the Law (2:11–15)[47:45] – Let No One Judge You for Not Adhering to the Law (2:16–23)[57:45] – Reflecting on the Depth of Theology in Colossians[60:02] – “You” vs. “Us” Pronoun Shift in 2:13–14[63:16] – Looking Ahead to Chapters 3–4
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Exodus 19–20/Hebrews & The Mosaic Law as God's Concession — Bold Grace Podcast EP11
In this episode, Thani and Grant explore a profound and often overlooked aspect of biblical theology: the idea that the Mosaic Law was not God’s original "Plan A." Instead, they argue that grace has always been God's intention, and the law served as a temporary measure that created distance between humanity and God. The discussion centers around Exodus 19 and 20, where Israel's reluctance to ascend Mount Sinai led to a mediated relationship with God rather than direct access. Grant draws powerful connections to Hebrews, showing how the New Covenant restores the intimacy and boldness that God originally intended. This episode is a deep dive into the nature of the priesthood, positional sanctification, and the freedom believers now have to approach God directly. If you’ve ever struggled with understanding your place in God's presence or felt hindered by legalistic barriers, this conversation will bring clarity and encouragement.📩 If you’ve enjoyed our study on Exodus and Hebrews, have questions, or want to support Grant’s ministry, reach out at [email protected].Chapters:[00:00] — Introduction[01:15] — Grant's Experience Teaching this Topic in Ghana[04:50] — Setting the Stage: Exodus 19–20[09:52] — The Israelites’ Fear and Their Request for a Mediator[12:34] — The Layers of Separation in the Law[20:07] — Boldly Entering God's Presence and the Role of the Priesthood[25:31] — Positional Sanctification and Assurance of Salvation in Hebrews[33:30] — Why Understanding Freedom from the Law is Critical[43:02] — Christ as the Greater Mediator and the Church as a Royal Priesthood[54:17] — The Mistranslation of Exodus 19:13[56:28] — Final Thoughts and Call to Action
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Philippians & Deference amidst Church Conflict — Bold Grace Podcast EP10
In this episode, Thani and Grant dive deep into the book of Philippians, exploring Paul's primary purpose in writing the letter. While many view Philippians as the "book of joy," Grant unpacks how its central theme is actually resolving conflict within the church through humility, unity, and a Christ-centered mindset.They discuss how Paul builds his argument around the conflict between Euodia and Syntyche, using Christ’s example of humility and Paul's own personal sacrifices to demonstrate the heart posture believers should have. Along the way, Grant highlights key Greek terms, explores some translation nuances, and connects Paul's teachings to broader theological themes found in Ephesians.The conversation also touches on the modern application of these principles—how believers today can handle personal conflict, embrace a mindset of service, and rejoice in Christ regardless of worldly circumstances. Thani shares his own reflections, drawing from his personal experiences in missions and trials, emphasizing that, in Christ, we truly cannot lose.📩 If you’ve enjoyed our study on Philippians, have questions, or want to support Grant’s ministry, reach out at [email protected].Chapters: [00:00] — Intro [01:05] — Grant’s Personal Connection to Philippians [04:42] — Background to the Writing of Philippians [06:47] — Examining the Many “Mind” Passages in Philippians [11:14] — The Role of Affection and Humility in Christian Unity [18:30] — Jesus as the Ultimate Example of Humility [24:25] — How God Exalts Those Who Humble Themselves [28:21] — Paul’s Example: Counting All Worldly Gain as Loss [37:48] — How Conflict Dissolves When We Willingly Defer Our Worldly Desires [44:25] — Understanding “Be Anxious for Nothing” in Context [50:11] — Rightly Applying Philippians 4:8: Meditating on the Good in Others [55:11] — Thani's Reflections: Why We Can’t Lose in Christ [59:17] — Parallels Between Philippians & Ephesians [63:42] — Love as Both Action and Emotion [68:12] — Outro
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Interview with Pastor Azziz — Bold Grace Podcast EP9
Episode Description:In this milestone episode of the Bold Grace Podcast, Thani and Grant interview Pastor Azziz from South Africa, a dedicated disciple of the Free Grace movement and founder of Ekklesia Ministries. Pastor Azziz shares his powerful testimony of coming to faith in Christ after growing up in a Muslim household, the challenges of ministering in a culture deeply influenced by prosperity gospel and legalism, and his vision for equipping believers with sound biblical doctrine through the Bold Grace Bible Institute in Johannesburg.The conversation touches on the state of the church in South Africa, the hunger for biblical teaching, and the resistance from pastors who feel threatened by the truth. Pastor Azziz also discusses his approach to evangelism, his burden for unity among believers, and the upcoming initiatives to train and disciple pastors through a new video-based Bible Institute.This episode is a deep dive into the realities of missions, theological transformation, and the power of the gospel to set people free. Tune in for an inspiring and challenging discussion about knowing Jesus more and making Him known.Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction & Episode Milestone 00:37 - Introducing Pastor Azziz 01:45 - Pastor Azziz’s Testimony: From Islam to Christ 03:58 - Challenges in South African Ministry 09:45 - The Influence of Prosperity Gospel & Legalism 14:30 - Experiences in Church Ministry & Pastoral Resistance 16:00 - Evangelism & Engaging Other Pastors 24:00 - The Need for Discipleship & Training in Africa 30:45 - Challenges of Misinterpreting Scripture 34:00 - The Vision for the Bold Grace Bible Institute 40:30 - Burden for the Church & the Power of God's Word 45:00 - Pastor Azziz on Discipleship & Evangelism Strategies 51:00 - How His Muslim Background Prepared Him for Ministry 57:00 - Call to Action: Knowing & Making Jesus Known
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Ephesians 6 & Standing Firm — Bold Grace Podcast EP8
In this episode, we wrap up our journey through Paul's letter to the Ephesians, diving into the final chapter where Paul calls believers to stand firm in spiritual warfare. Grant unpacks the full armor of God, highlighting how each piece equips us for battle against spiritual forces—not against people, but against the schemes of the enemy. We discuss the importance of unity, faith, and the power of God that enables us to stand victorious. Plus, Grant shares insights on his upcoming book about grace and cultural perspectives on the gospel, and we preview next week's special interview with Pastor Azziz from South Africa. Download Grant's Book Map and Literary Structure PDF: https://boldgrace.org/EphesiansLS.pdf 📩 If you’ve enjoyed our study on Ephesians, have questions, or want to support Grant’s ministry, reach out at [email protected]. Chapters: [00:00] Introduction [01:32] Grant’s Upcoming Book [09:23] Grant’s Winter 2025 Ministry Trip [10:34] Review of Chapters 4 and 5 on Spiritual Maturity [13:34] The Full Armor of God Piece by Piece (Ephesians 6:10—11) [24:28] Our Battle is Spiritual, Not Against People (Ephesians 6:12) [36:35] We Can Win Spiritual Battles (Ephesians 6:13–15) [42:14] The Power of Unity & The Phalanx Shield and Boots (Ephesians 6:16) [44:17] The Power of Doctrine: "Rightly Interpreted, Rightly Applied" (Ephesians 6:17) [51:36] Wrapping Up the Spiritual Armor (Ephesians 6:18–24) [55:17] Final Thoughts on Ephesians [60:00] Closing Remarks
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Ephesians 5 & Light and Submission — Bold Grace Podcast EP7
In this episode, Grant and Thani continue their deep dive into Ephesians, exploring the practical outworking of unity in chapters 5 and 6. They discuss themes of submission, walking in light, and how these principles reflect our identity in Christ. Grant shares insights into Paul's teachings on mutual submission, the fruit of the Spirit, and redeeming the time in a world filled with darkness. This episode offers valuable wisdom for both personal growth and discipleship, concluding with a preview of the spiritual armor and standing firm against adversity. Download Grant's Book Map and Literary Structure PDF: https://boldgrace.org/EphesiansLS.pdf 📩 Questions or thoughts? Email us at [email protected]! Chapters: [00:00] Intro [01:10] Recap of Chapter 4 [05:16] Character Qualities of the World (Ephesians 5:3–7) [13:00] Children of Light and Exposing the Darkness (Ephesians 5:8–10) [19:51] The Responsibility to Expose the Darkness (Ephesians 5:11–14) [27:49] Making the Most of Limited Time (Ephesians 5:15–16) [29:46] Satisfied by the Holy Spirit instead of Wine (Ephesians 5:18–20) [34:09] The Pattern of Submission in Paul's Letters (Ephesians 5:21) [37:15] Mutual Submission/Service of Wives and Husbands (Ephesians 5:22–33) [43:16] Mutual Submission/Service of Children and Fathers (Ephesians 6:1–4) [48:05] Mutual Submission/Service of Slaves and Masters (Ephesians 6:5–9) [52:29] Closing Reflections
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Ephesians 4 & The Perfect Ligament of Love — Bold Grace Podcast EP6
In this episode, Thani and Grant continue their deep dive into Ephesians, focusing on chapter 4 and the opening verses of chapter 5. They explore the call to unity, the function of spiritual gifts, and the metaphor of love as the "perfect ligament" that binds the body of Christ together. Highlights include insights into spiritual maturity, the necessity of love in ministry, and the practical outworking of unity in the church. Grant also shares parallels with Colossians and Romans, emphasizing how doctrine, love, and spiritual growth intersect. Download Grant's Book Map and Literary Structure PDF: https://boldgrace.org/EphesiansLS.pdf 📩 Questions or thoughts? Email us at [email protected]! Chapters: [00:00] – Introduction [01:02] – Recap & Context [05:51] – From "Sitting" to "Walking" [07:33] – Spiritual Offices (4:7–12) [16:03] – The Perfect Ligament of Love (4:13–16) [26:27] – Loveless Teaching and Preaching [31:50] – The Call to Dispense with Spiritual Callousness (4:17–24) [38:05] – Speak Truth, Be Provoked, Satisfy Needs, & Be Kind (4:25–5:2) [50:09] – Closing Reflections
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Ephesians 2–3 & The Church as God’s Masterpiece — Bold Grace Podcast EP5
In this episode, Thani and Grant continue their deep dive into Ephesians, picking up from Chapter 2 and moving into Chapters 3 and 4. Grant unpacks Paul’s powerful depiction of the church as God’s masterpiece, exploring themes of unity, grace, and spiritual maturity. The conversation dives into the mystery of Gentile inclusion, the purpose of the church in God's plan, and practical insights for living out our high calling. Together, Thani and Grant reflect on the eternal significance of the church as a display of God's manifold wisdom to the heavenly realms, urging listeners to walk worthy of their calling by fostering unity and love. Download Grant's Book Map and Literary Structure PDF: https://boldgrace.org/EphesiansLS.pdf 📩 Questions or thoughts? Email us at [email protected]! Chapters: [00:00] Introduction [00:55] “What’s the Therefore There For?” (1:22–2:22) [07:33] Paul’s Ministry to the Gentiles (3:1) [09:56] The Question of Pauline Authorship (3:2) [12:39] The Dispensation of Gathering (3:2) [20:28] Understanding the Mystery Revealed to Paul (3:3–7) [27:00] The Church as a Display of God’s Wisdom to Angels (3:8–13) [32:24] God's Grace and Satan's Pride in the Cosmic Courtroom [35:25] Understanding the Love of Christ as the Key to Sanctification (3:14–19) [39:20] God’s Power at Work in the Church (3:20–21) [42:26] Walking Worthy of Our Calling (4:1–3) [49:10] One, One, One, One, One, One (4:4–6) [51:13] The Universal Implications of Our Ministry [57:23] Closing Remarks
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Ephesians 1–2 & Our Calling to Unity — Bold Grace Podcast EP4
In this episode, Grant takes us through the first half of Ephesians, emphasizing the themes of unity in the body of Christ and the believer's participation in God's mission. Through his personal experiences with the text and detailed analysis of Paul's use of language, Grant unpacks key theological ideas such as election, predestination, and the church as Christ's fullness. Along the way, he provides crucial insights into salvation, eternal security, and the transformative purpose of grace in our lives. Download Grant's Book Map and Literary Structure PDF: https://boldgrace.org/EphesiansLS.pdf Stay tuned for the next episode as we continue this exploration of Ephesians, covering chapters 2 through 4! 📩 Questions or thoughts? Email us at [email protected]! Chapters: [00:00] – Introduction [01:45] – Why Ephesians Is Grant’s Favorite Book [09:10] – Trinitarian Doxology (1:3–14) [12:20] – The Meaning of Election and Predestination [20:14] – The Purpose of Everything (1:7–12) [26:54] – The Ordo Salutis and Eternal Security (1:13–14) [32:00] – Paul's Prayer and the Outline of Chapter 3 (1:15–19) [34:39] – Christ’s Exaltation and the Church’s Role (1:20–22) [42:02] – Gentiles Included (1:23–2:10) [45:18] – The New Man (2:11–18) [50:39] – The Church as God’s Temple (2:19–22) [51:40] – Closing Thoughts
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Galatians & Inclusivity vs. Legalism — Bold Grace Podcast EP3
In this episode of BGP, Thani and Grant continue their New Testament overview, diving into the Apostle Paul’s letter to the Galatians. This powerful epistle, often described as Paul’s "angry letter," addresses the Galatian church's struggle with legalism, exclusion, and the challenge of walking in the freedom of the gospel. Grant breaks down key themes, including justification before men, the purpose of the law, and the unifying power of love in Christ. They also touch on Paul's confrontation with Peter and its implications for the early church. Tune in to explore how the timeless truths of Galatians can transform the way we live and love as followers of Christ. Don't miss the cliffhanger question about modern spiritual elitism—an important topic for a future episode! 📩 Questions or thoughts? Email us at [email protected]! Chapters: [00:00:00] – Introduction & Overview [00:01:34] – The Context of Galatians [00:03:19] – Practical Purpose of Scripture [00:06:08] – A Different Gospel [00:11:32] – Paul Confronts Peter [00:24:34] – Justification and Vindication [00:36:12] – Purpose of the Law [00:47:11] – Walking in the Spirit [00:56:12] – Discussion [00:57:33] – Closing Thoughts
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Romans & Christian Liberty — Bold Grace Podcast EP2
Welcome to Episode 2 of the Bold Grace Podcast! In this episode, Grant and Thani dive into the cultural and theological tensions between Jews and Gentiles in the first-century Church of Rome—a division that inspired Paul’s letter to the Romans. They unpack the book’s central themes, emphasizing how its profound theology supports the practical goal of unifying these two distinct groups in one body under Christ. The conversation highlights the practical purpose of Romans: fostering unity among believers despite cultural and personal differences. Paul’s theology—often mistaken for being purely doctrinal—is framed within a practical context: addressing divisions and teaching believers to live in harmony, rooted in their shared faith. Grant and Thani explore how these truths apply to modern divisions within the church, particularly cultural and political ones. They draw connections between the first-century struggles of Jew-Gentile unity and the present-day challenges of cultural and ideological divides among believers. The episode closes with reflections on how Paul’s vision for unity remains essential for today’s church and missions. Next week, they’ll continue their exploration of foundational New Testament books, diving into Galatians and its role in understanding unity and effective missions. Don’t miss it! 📩 Questions or thoughts? Email us at [email protected]! 00:00 Introduction 00:43 Overview of the Book of Romans 01:25 Prayer Requests and Opening Prayer 02:22 Purpose and Theology of Romans 04:00 Unity in Diversity: Jews and Gentiles 05:12 The Concept of Christian Liberty 06:31 Practical Unity in the Church 09:54 The Five Main Points of Romans 11:10 1) Condemnation and Justification 24:51 2) The Role of the Law 28:34 3) Righteousness Through Faith, Not the Law 29:23 4) The Temporary Hardening of Israel and the Inclusion of Gentiles 35:19 5) Loving and Accepting One Another 38:46 Living in Harmony Despite Differences 49:23 Freedom in Christ and Cultural Differences 55:09 Conclusion and Practical Applications
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Acts & the Hesitance of the Apostles — Bold Grace Podcast EP1
In the debut episode of the Bold Grace Podcast, hosts Grant and Thani dive deep into the Book of Acts, unraveling the powerful theme of unity amidst cultural divides. Journey through the early church's hesitance to embrace the Great Commission and how God's persistent guidance paved the way for global missions. Highlights include: An exploration of the apostles' initial resistance to leaving Jerusalem and their cultural struggles in embracing Gentile believers. The pivotal roles of Philip and Paul, and how their bold obedience kickstarted the movement to the ends of the earth. Insights into the dramatic events of Acts, from Peter’s vision of inclusion to the powerful Jerusalem Council decision affirming salvation through grace alone. A closer look at unity—both its presence and absence—within the early church, and how it parallels challenges in modern missions. Grant also shares stories from his own global ministry, including transformative pastor training in Ghana, South Africa, and beyond, where the hunger for grace and eternal security fuels vibrant, life-changing movements. Tune in for this foundational discussion on Acts, unity, and the church’s mission, and get ready for next week’s dive into the Book of Romans and its insights into bridging Jew-Gentile divides within the church. 📩 Questions or thoughts? Email us at [email protected]! 00:00 Introduction to the Bold Grace Podcast 00:53 Meet Grant Hawley: Pastor and Missionary 02:39 Missionary Journeys and Experiences 06:27 Supporting Bold Grace Ministries 07:27 Introduction to the Book of Acts 08:53 The Great Commission 10:40 Unity and Disunity in the Early Church 16:11 Philip's Ministry 18:50 The Calling of Saul 22:07 Paul's Special Commission to the Gentiles 26:32 Peter's Vision and the Gentile Mission 29:18 The Inclusion of Gentiles in the Early Church 35:12 The Jerusalem Council and the Law 43:34 Paul's Ministry and Cultural Challenges 49:19 Conclusion and Upcoming Topics
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Join hosts Grant Hawley and Thani Abuhamad as they explore the intersection of scripture and missions in the Bold Grace Podcast. Each episode dives into biblical truths with a focus on unity, cultural challenges, and the life-changing power of grace.From deep dives into books of the Bible to inspiring stories of global missions, BGP equips believers to live out their faith authentically. Whether navigating cultural divides or seeking encouragement, you’ll find practical insights and a bold call to action.
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