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This podcast takes a unique approach in discussing various topics that are of interest to financial advisors and investors. The hosts Jimmy Lee, CEO, The Wealth Consulting Group (WCG), Jim Worden, CFA, CAIA, CMT, Chief Investment Officer (WCG), and Tally Léger, Chief Market Strategist (WCG) will have discussions that concern the markets, economy, strategies, financial planning, taxes, and life. The information herein is for informational and entertainment purposes and intended for use by advisors only, and should not be copied, reproduced, or re-distributed without the consent of WCG.

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    #71 - Michael Hunstad, President of Northern Trust Asset Management: AI, Factors, and the Future of Investing (recorded 05/07)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden sits down with Michael Hunstad, President of Northern Trust Asset Management, for a conversation on quantitative investing, compensated factors, AI, tokenization, and the future of global capital markets. Michael shares how his background in mathematics, hedge funds, algorithmic trading, and asset allocation shaped his belief in factor investing. He explains why factors must be persistent, consistent, and compensated, and why controlling unintended risk is critical.The conversation also turns to AI, where Michael shares why he thinks artificial intelligence may be one of the most important developments in modern investing. Jim and Michael also discuss Northern Trust’s work with Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, the future of tokenization, blockchain, crypto, and why the AI investment theme may still be in its early innings. Key TakeawaysWhy we think compensated factors remain important drivers of long-term portfolio returnsHow value, quality, momentum, and low volatility can work together in multifactor strategiesHow AI can help investors analyze the 97% of company data that traditional models often missWhy network momentum may become a powerful tool for understanding company relationshipsHow AI could reshape stock selection, portfolio attribution, sales enablement, and advisor workflowsWhy tokenization may transform settlement, collateral, and market structureWhy crypto may still be better viewed as speculative unless its portfolio role becomes clearerWhy Michael believes the AI trade is not the same as the dot-com bubbleChapters00:55 Michael’s journey from math, hedge funds, and algorithmic trading to asset management02:44 How factor investing became central to Michael’s investment philosophy03:37 What makes a factor truly compensated05:31 Why factor cycles require long-term discipline06:44 The danger of unintended risk in factor investing10:15 Why the intersection of factors may be more powerful than factor sleeves13:49 How AI is changing investment research15:45 Using alternative data and AI for idiosyncratic stock selection17:11 Network momentum and mapping company relationships19:06 Understanding intangible value through AI22:21 AI, geopolitical risk, and thematic exposure26:56 Northern Trust, Saudi Arabia, and global capital market development33:06 De-globalization versus global financial integration39:29 Crypto, stablecoins, and portfolio utility42:25 Tokenization, collateral, and the future of settlement49:03 What excites and worries Michael about AI52:55 Why AI investing is not the dot-com bubbleGuests Michael Hunstad, President, Northern Trust Asset ManagementSpeakersJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #70 - Duncan MacPherson, Founder and CEO of Pareto Systems: How Advisors Build Businesses That Scale Beyond Themselves (04/20/26)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jimmy Lee sits down with Duncan MacPherson, founder and CEO of Pareto Systems, for a practical and thought-provoking conversation about what it really takes to build a great advisory business. Duncan shares how he got into coaching financial advisors almost by accident, after giving a few simple business development ideas to advisors that produced results. From there, his work evolved into a decades-long mission to help advisors think differently about client experience, business structure, and practice management. The conversation centers on a theme Duncan has taught for years: advisory businesses should be designed to serve the advisor’s life, not consume it. He explains why so many advisors stay trapped in the technical side of the business, why that creates risk for enterprise value, and why the most successful firms build around process, team, and relationship depth rather than individual heroics. Jimmy and Duncan also dive into AI, advisor evolution, enterprise value, referrals, professional contrast, and what separates firms that grow deliberately from those that simply drift. This episode is especially relevant for advisors who want to move from running a book of business to leading a scalable, valuable enterprise.What you'll learn:Why the best advisory firms stop acting like books of business and start operating like true businessesHow advisors can “grow down, zoom out, and level up” to create more freedom and enterprise valueWhy the advisor of the future must combine high tech with high touchHow AI can help firms document process, standardize service, and build intellectual property fasterWhy client acquisition should begin with existing clients and their networks before outside marketingThe difference between professional contrast and professional scarcity, and why both matterWhy being the client’s first call matters more than product selection aloneHow advisors can make themselves more fee worthy by becoming a personal CFO and value added sounding boardWhy the firms that embrace change early are better positioned for scale, retention, and successionChapters:01:45 How Duncan got into coaching financial advisors03:16 How the advisor role has evolved over the last few decades05:11 Why some advisors crave freedom while others crave being needed06:57 What it means to run a business instead of just managing a book08:05 How change in industry structure affects the advisor role10:41 Why asset management is not enough to define advisor value13:02 The importance of language, messaging, and professional contrast16:22 Why AI will elevate some advisors and eliminate others19:49 Real world ways advisors can use AI to document process and scale23:20 What the best advisors have in common30:29 What separates advisors who struggle from advisors who grow34:20 Why panoramic fiduciary thinking creates deeper trust39:02 How advisors should think about client acquisition today45:40 Why existing clients are the best source of future growth51:28 What the advisory firm of the future looks like54:05 Professional contrast, scarcity, and why sameness is dangerous58:09 How Pareto Systems helps advisors improve practice management and execution01:06 Final thoughts on growth, community, and continuous improvement GuestsDuncan MacPherson, Founder and CEO, Pareto Systems SpeakersJimmy Lee, CEO, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #69 - Julia Carlson, Founder and CEO of Financial Freedom Wealth Management Group: Building a Scalable Advisory Business With Purpose (recorded 04/16/26)

    Jimmy Lee sits down with Julia Carlson, founder and CEO of Financial Freedom Wealth Management Group, for a conversation about growth, leadership, and building an advisory firm that is designed to serve clients at scale. Julia shares how her business grew from approximately $25 million in assets after moving to LPL Financial in 2009 to more than $600 million today. She discusses the lessons that shaped that journey, including the importance of hiring early, trusting a team, and stepping out of the way so others can lead. A pivotal part of that evolution came after a serious accident involving her daughter, which forced Julia to spend time away from the office and revealed that her team was capable of much more than she had allowed. The conversation also explores how Julia built a broader ecosystem around her advisory firm, including a tax business, a business consulting practice, coaching programs, retreats, and a growing personal brand. Throughout the discussion, she emphasizes that sustainable growth comes from knowing the numbers, building the right team, creating repeatable processes, and staying connected to a larger purpose. What You’ll LearnHow Julia Carlson scaled an advisory business from approximately $25 million to more than $600 million in assetsWhy building a team based model changed the trajectory of her firmWhy understanding profitability by household can improve decision makingHow tax services and business consulting can deepen client relationshipsWhat role social media and personal branding can play in business developmentWhy coaching and mastermind communities can accelerate business growthHow Julia thinks about purpose, philanthropy, and long-term impact through her “one billion for good” visionChapters00:00 Introduction to Julia Carlson and her businesses02:43 The early years and learning she could not do it all herself04:13 Her daughter’s accident and the turning point in leadership07:10 Expanding the team and creating a business that can run without her08:09 Freedom Tax and building a more comprehensive planning model10:12 The women’s mastermind, retreats, and coaching entrepreneurs12:20 Financial planning, service models, and household profitability16:19 Why knowing firm economics matters for growth18:22 How tax services support retention and lead generation21:20 Technology, planning tools, and AI adoption23:49 Client appreciation events, workshops, and business development25:55 The origin of “one billion for good”30:10 The value of coaching and learning from peers34:20 What is next for the business and where Julia wants to focus37:44 Social media, authenticity, and attracting the right clients40:02 Mistakes made along the way and lessons for advisors48:52 AI, vibe coding, and the future of client experience50:50 Differentiation, team culture, and building a values based firm GuestJulia Carlson, Founder and CEO, Financial Freedom Wealth Management Group HostJimmy Lee, Founder & CEO, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #68 - Sam Ro, Founder of TKer: Why Markets Climb the Wall of Worry and How Advisors Can Help Clients Stay Invested (recorded 04/01/25)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jimmy Lee and Talley Leger sit down with Sam Ro, founder of Tker and an award-winning financial newsletter writer, for a wide-ranging conversation on market behavior, investor psychology, and the importance of long-term perspective. Sam explains why his work focuses less on daily market noise and more on framing events in the context of longer cycles. He discusses how financial media often leaves investors feeling uneasy even when long-term results have been constructive, and why advisors can add value by preparing clients for inevitable drawdowns before they happen. The conversation also explores current market conditions, including resilient consumer spending, rising earnings expectations, labor market dynamics, and concerns around private credit. Throughout the episode, Sam returns to a central idea: markets may be volatile in the short run, but over time they have historically reflected innovation, adaptation, and the drive for better products, services, and outcomes.What You'll LearnWhy daily market coverage can feel disconnected from long-term market outcomesHow Sam uses historical context to interpret current market eventsWhy advisors may benefit from preparing clients for volatility before it arrivesWhat current consumer spending and earnings data may be signalingWhy some market fears are widely known while other risks can emerge unexpectedlyHow market turnover and innovation support long-term equity returnsWhat labor market “stickiness” may mean for productivity and corporate performanceHow repetition and clear communication can help advisors strengthen client trust Chapters00:00 How Talley, Jimmy, and Sam connected03:04 Shared background, media experience, and why Sam’s work resonates with advisors06:19 Sam’s philosophy on markets, media, and long-term framing13:46 How advisors can prepare clients for future drawdowns21:23 Contrarian thinking and why bad news can create opportunity23:41 Earnings expectations, consumer resilience, and margin stability29:00 Why markets tend to rise over time37:18 Private credit concerns and how Sam is thinking about the issue43:52 Labor market turnover, productivity, and the “tenure dividend”47:38 Sam’s background, storytelling style, and evolution as a writer55:03 Core market principles, hidden risks, and long-term optimism01:01:16 Closing thoughts on creativity, change, and human ingenuity GuestsSam Ro, Founder and Editor, Tkerhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/sammyro/ SpeakersJimmy Lee, Founder and CEO, The Wealth Consulting GroupTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #67 - Dave Mazza, Chief Executive Officer, Roundhill Investments: ETF Innovation, Portfolio Construction, and the Changing Role of Diversification (recorded 03/25/26)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Talley Leger is joined by Dave Mazza, Chief Executive Officer of Roundhill Investments, for a discussion on markets, ETFs, portfolio construction, and how investors may think about diversification in the current environment. Drawing on a long professional history together, Talley and Dave revisit the evolution of ETFs from early sector products to today’s more specialized and outcome-oriented strategies. They discuss the recent market backdrop, including the S&P 500 moving below its 200 day moving average, the role of energy and geopolitics, and why periods of volatility can create both risks and opportunities depending on an investor’s time horizon. The conversation also explores the technology trade, the Magnificent Seven, sector concentration, and why diversification across regions, market capitalizations, and asset classes may still matter even after periods when narrow leadership has dominated returns. Dave shares perspective on how Roundhill approaches product development, what makes a differentiated ETF issuer, and where innovation may continue across the industry. What You’ll LearnHow Dave thinks about the recent market pullback and the role of time horizon in portfolio decisionsWhy geopolitical headlines and oil prices may influence near-term market behaviorHow the Magnificent Seven fit into today’s broader market structureWhy diversification may still matter even after long periods of narrow market leadershipHow ETFs evolved from simple indexing tools into more specialized portfolio building blocksWhat distinguishes innovative ETF issuers from larger, more established providersHow financial advisors may think about core, satellite, and tactical portfolio construction Chapters01:02 Talley and Dave’s professional history and early ETF work03:06 Market pullback, the 200 day moving average, and time horizon08:42 Oil, inflation, rates, and comparisons to prior market periods15:46 The Magnificent Seven, tech concentration, and earnings strength21:22 Passive investing, ETFs, and market structure28:36 The history of smart beta, factor investing, and ETF development30:30 Replacing the traditional 60 40 portfolio using ETFs36:14 What separates successful ETF issuers from the rest39:46 The idea behind meme stock exposure and retail participation43:15 Advisor fee pressure and the role of product cost49:19 Where ETF innovation may go next53:07 Which ETF categories may face more pressure over time GuestsDave Mazza, Chief Executing Officer, Roundhill Investments SpeakersTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #66 - Dan Gallagher, Technology Columnist, Heard on the Street, The Wall Street Journal: AI Infrastructure, Software Disruption, and the Next Phase of Tech (recorded 03/20/26)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden speaks with Dan Gallagher, Technology Columnist for Heard on the Street at The Wall Street Journal, about the current state of the technology sector and the forces shaping markets today. Dan shares his long view on the evolution of technology, beginning with the early internet era and the first dot-com cycle, and compares that backdrop with the current wave of investment around artificial intelligence. The conversation focuses on Nvidia’s rise, hyperscaler spending, semiconductor supply constraints, memory pricing, and the broader chain of dependencies driving the AI buildout. Jim and Dan also discuss the pressure on software valuations, the distinction between platform companies and more exposed application businesses, and how investors may be thinking through durability, disruption, and changing narratives across the sector. What You’ll LearnHow the current AI cycle compares with prior technology cyclesWhy Nvidia’s growth story has been years in the makingHow memory supply and manufacturing constraints affect the AI ecosystemWhy hyperscaler spending remains central to the semiconductor storyWhat may be driving pressure on software valuationsWhy AI may create both efficiency gains and disruption across industriesHow technology adoption tends to evolve in uneven and unpredictable waysWhere Dan sees longer-term potential in physical world AI applicationsChapters01:12 Dan’s history covering technology and the evolution of tech cycles04:12 Nvidia’s rise from graphics chips to AI infrastructure leader07:22 What Dan took away from Nvidia’s recent conference and guidance09:22 Memory bottlenecks, Micron, and supply chain constraints15:10 Why Nvidia and other AI leaders may still face valuation questions19:53 Software stocks, AI narratives, and where pressure is coming from24:04 Why some software platforms may be more durable than others28:53 Palantir, secure AI use cases, and valuation sensitivity31:13 Adobe, creative tools, and consumer-facing AI disruption34:43 AI in Hollywood, content creation, and labor implications40:18 Everyday AI use cases and workflow changes45:10 AI adoption, human judgment, and preserving human connection49:31 Areas of technology Dan finds interesting over the long term GuestsDan Gallagher, Technology Columnist, Heard on the Street, The Wall Street Journal SpeakersJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg 

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    #65 Allison Bonds Mazza, Head of US Wealth at State Street, and James Seyffart, Senior Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence (recorded 03/17/26)

    This special live episode of The Bull of Wall Street was recorded at the VettaFi Exchange 26 conference in Las Vegas NV, bringing together industry leaders for a real-time discussion on ETFs, market structure, and the evolving role of advisors. Jim Worden, CFA, CMT, CAIA, Jimmy Lee, and Talley Leger are joined by Allison Bonds Mazza, CIMA®, CPWA, Head of US Wealth at State Street, and James Seyffart, CFA, CAIA, Senior Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence. The conversation explores the growth of the ETF industry, including its origins following the 1987 market crash and its expansion to thousands of products and trillions in assets today.  The group discusses ETF flows, the shift from mutual funds to ETF structures, and the increasing role of active ETFs across the market. Additional topics include sector positioning, gold and alternatives, crypto as a portfolio component, and the growing importance of model portfolios. The discussion also addresses broader industry themes such as advisor fee compression, generational shifts in investors, artificial intelligence, and the importance of human relationships in wealth management. What You’ll LearnHow the ETF industry evolved from early innovations to a multi-trillion dollar ecosystemWhy flows continue shifting from mutual funds into ETF structuresHow active ETFs are gaining share and influencing industry fee trendsWhat current ETF flow patterns may indicate about investor positioningHow advisors are using model portfolios and customization at scaleThe role of crypto and alternatives within diversified portfoliosHow artificial intelligence may impact investment workflows and productivityWhy advisor-client relationships remain central despite technological advancementsHow generational changes may influence future wealth management practices Chapters01:15 History and evolution of ETFs03:20 ETF flows and sector positioning trends06:08 Gold, alternatives, and portfolio durability themes08:24 Mutual funds versus ETFs and active ETF growth11:12 Product innovation and ETF launches13:37 Crypto ETFs and portfolio considerations15:53 Women in finance and industry evolution21:17 Active ETFs and fee dynamics24:27 Advisor margin compression and pricing discussions31:17 Product structure and democratization of access34:11 Model portfolios and customization trends39:04 Passive flows and market structure implications42:11 AI in investing and advisor workflows46:47 Direct indexing and future competition49:26 Sector positioning and industrial trends52:28 Product innovation and global expansion53:19 Advisor perspective and client engagement54:15 Next generation investors and digital expectations GuestsAllison Bonds-Mesa, CIMA®, CPWA, Head of US Wealth at State StreetJames Seyffart, CFA, CAIA, Senior Research Analyst at Bloomberg IntelligenceSpeakersJim Worden, CFA, CMT, CAIA, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting GroupJimmy Lee, Chief Executive Officer, The Wealth Consulting GroupTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #64 - Michael Taylor, Portfolio Manager at Simplify Asset Management: Healthcare Innovation, GLP-1 Competition, and the Future of Markets (recorded 03/11/26)

    n this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden and Paisley Nardini are joined by Michael Taylor, Portfolio Manager at Simplify Asset Management. Michael shares his unconventional path from drug discovery scientist to hedge fund manager and now ETF portfolio manager focused on healthcare innovation. The discussion explores the current state of the healthcare sector, including drug pricing dynamics, GLP-1 competition, and emerging innovation cycles. Michael also outlines how advancements in technology, including AI and automation, may impact drug development, productivity, and long-term economic trends. The conversation highlights both opportunities and risks across markets, with a focus on active management and sector positioning. What you’ll learnHow a background in drug development can inform investment decision-makingKey differences between GLP-1 therapies and how they may impact market shareWhy healthcare may be positioned for relative strength based on current conditionsHow innovation in diagnostics, therapeutics, and longevity research is evolvingThe role of demographics, debt, and productivity in shaping long-term market outcomesHow active management may identify opportunities within a complex healthcare landscape Chapters03:00 From scientist to hedge fund manager06:00 The Pink Fund and investing with purpose09:00 Personal story and racing journey14:00 Healthcare sector outlook18:00 Drug pricing and policy considerations23:00 Innovation in healthcare and AI impact29:00 GLP-1 competition and positioning36:00 Identifying opportunities beyond traditional healthcare42:00 Macro environment and sector flows49:00 Debt, demographics, and long-term risks01:03:00 Active management and healthcare allocation  GuestsMichael Taylor, Portfolio Manager, Simplify Asset ManagementSpeakersJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting GroupPaisley Nardini, CFA, CAIA, Simplify Asset Management Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #63 - Geopolitics, Critical Technologies, and Industrial Reshoring with John O’Connor, CEO and Chairman, J.H. Whitney (recorded 03/04/26)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jimmy Lee is joined by John O’Connor, CEO and Chairman of J.H. Whitney, along with Jim Worden and Talley Leger, for a timely discussion on geopolitics, national security, critical technologies, and the shifting economic framework shaping markets. John outlines how J.H. Whitney’s work with the U.S. government evolved from advising on strategic competition with China into a broader investing and analytics capability. He explains how the firm assesses critical technologies, supply chain dependencies, and geostrategic entanglement risk, and how that framework has informed both government work and investment strategy. The conversation then turns to current geopolitical developments, including Iran, China, energy security, industrial policy, tariffs, critical minerals, artificial intelligence, and the longer-term implications of reshoring U.S. manufacturing. John shares his perspective on how these issues intersect with inflation, interest rates, capital markets, and national power, while Jim and Talley explore what these shifts may mean for advisors, investors, and portfolio positioning. What You’ll LearnHow J.H. Whitney’s government advisory work evolved into an investing frameworkWhy critical technologies, trade, and capital markets are increasingly linkedHow John views the competitive position of the U.S. relative to ChinaHow current developments involving Iran may affect inflation, rates, and market volatilityWhy rare earths, critical materials, and processing capability matter beyond mining aloneHow AI and quantum may influence productivity, competitiveness, and national securityHow energy, defense spending, and industrial policy may shape the next phase of economic transition Chapters03:10 J.H. Whitney’s government advisory work and strategic competition with China07:55 Trade, technology, and capital markets as instruments of national power10:39 Why quantum may become more visible in the years ahead13:58 AI, automation, and U.S. industrial competitiveness17:13 The U.S. manufacturing renaissance and capital spending incentives19:47 A geopolitical framework for interpreting current events25:58 Iran, energy security, inflation, and rate implications30:16 Follow-up on Iran and possible paths forward34:29 Energy, defense spending, and the idea of a peace dividend40:07 AI adoption, software, and the practical impact on productivity55:58 Productivity measurement and the economic impact of AI01:02:15 Fiscal balance, government efficiency, and structural pressures GuestsJohn O’Connor, CEO and Chairman, J.H. Whitney SpeakersJimmy Lee, Chief Executive Officer and Financial Advisor, The Wealth Consulting GroupJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting GroupTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #62 - Market History, Sector Rotation, and Investor Discipline with Sam Stovall, Chief Investment Strategist, CFRA (recorded 02/19/26)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden, CFA®, CMT®, CAIA welcomes Sam Stovall, Chief Investment Strategist at CFRA, for a wide-ranging discussion grounded in market history, sector rotation, earnings trends, and investor behavior. Sam reflects on his decades in the investment industry, including his time at Standard and Poor’s and CFRA, and shares how studying history has shaped his approach to markets. He explains why he thinks human emotion remains the most consistent driver of market behavior, despite changes in technology, access to information, and market structure. The conversation explores sector rotation, valuation dynamics, midterm election year patterns, earnings trends, and the evolution of market participation through ETFs. Sam also addresses artificial intelligence, demographic shifts, investor sentiment, and the importance of financial literacy. Throughout the discussion, Sam emphasizes discipline, perspective, and a long-term mindset, while acknowledging that markets can be volatile and outcomes are never guaranteed.  What You’ll LearnWhy Sam thinks human emotion remains a primary market driver across decadesWhat historical midterm election year data has shown about volatility and returnsHow earnings expectations are managed and why beat rates remain highWhy valuations may appear elevated and how market structure has evolvedHow AI-related earnings growth compares to prior technology cyclesWhy diversification across growth and defensive sectors may reduce volatilityHow pullbacks and corrections have historically resolved over timeThe importance of financial literacy and investor discipline Chapters03:32 Market history and what has remained consistent over time06:03 Human emotion as the constant market driver11:22 Sector rotation and valuation considerations13:31 Midterm election year historical patterns16:16 Technology valuations and software repricing19:05 ETFs, retail participation, and market structure20:55 Precious metals, silver, and dollar dynamics25:17 Risk adjusted returns and diversification examples28:13 Volatility, fear versus greed, and market corrections32:35 Earnings trends and forward expectations37:14 AI growth projections and semiconductor earnings45:16 Historical drawdowns and systematic reinvestment approaches GuestsSam Stovall, Chief Investment Strategist, CFRA SpeakersJim Worden, CFA®, CMT®, CAIA, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup  Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #61 - Technical Analysis, Trend Following, and Risk Management with Frank Cappelleri, Founder, CappThesis (recorded 02/11/26)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Talley Leger and Jim Worden are joined by Frank Cappelleri, founder of CappThesis, for a technical-analysis focused discussion centered on chart patterns, trend identification, and practical risk management. Frank shares his background, including early experience alongside technical analysis pioneers and later work with institutional trading desks. He describes how his process emphasizes classical chart patterns, relative strength, and an effort to reduce bias by focusing on what price action is doing rather than what a symbol or narrative “should” do. The conversation also covers how Frank thinks about market environments, why certain indicators may work better in some periods than others, and how he thinks advisors and active investors can approach position sizing and stop discipline in more volatile conditions. What You’ll LearnHow Frank’s approach uses classical chart patterns as the foundation for trend analysisWhy frank believes relative strength and “what is working” can matter more than narrativesHow Frank frames risk first, including stop discipline and position sizingWhy “time corrections” and “price corrections” can look different in practiceWhat Frank looks for before acting on potential reversals in silver and bitcoinWhy indicators can behave differently depending on the market environmentHow advisors can use technical frameworks as a way to organize risk discussions Chapters02:10 The origin of CappThesis and what differentiates Frank’s approach03:35 Early influences, industry group relative strength, and “riding what works”07:02 Trend following, classical patterns, and how uptrends often build over time08:50 Changes in how technical analysis is perceived and used today11:22 Why risk management and price discipline are central to the process13:00 Stop discipline, volatility adjustments, and position sizing considerations14:23 S&P 500 discussion, zones, and the role of market leadership16:16 Consolidations, “time corrections,” and the psychology of ranges20:20 Trading boxes, support and resistance, and different ways to visualize structure23:42 Software versus semiconductors divergence and what it may imply28:30 Long-term relative support and why timeframe context can matter41:05 Silver uptrends, moving averages, and what to watch in a pullback47:20 Bitcoin patterns, retracements, and correlation observations50:26 Base-building versus early entry and how Frank approaches patience55:01 Market structure considerations and why large flows can influence moves58:43 ETFs, options, and how short-term dynamics can impact price action GuestFrank Cappelleri, Founder, CappThesis SpeakersTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting GroupJim Worden, CFA, CMT, CAIA, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup  The Bull of Wall Street features advisor-focused conversations intended to support professional learning and thoughtful discussion. Subscribe for additional episodes and updates. Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcgMaking Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group

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    #60 - Portfolio Construction in an Era of Innovation with Shannon Saccocia, Chief Investment Officer for Wealth, Neuberger Berman (recorded 02/04/26)

    In Episode 60 of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden sits down with Shannon Saccocia, Chief Investment Officer for Wealth at Neuberger Berman, for a thoughtful discussion on how portfolio construction has evolved alongside innovation, expanded access to private markets, and shifting market conditions.Shannon reflects on her professional journey from early roles in banking and registered investment advisory firms to her current leadership role at Neuberger Berman. She discusses how institutional investment frameworks have increasingly influenced private client portfolios and why understanding risk, liquidity, and investor experience remains critical as access to new strategies expands. Throughout the conversation, Jim and Shannon explore topics including diversification beyond concentrated equity exposure, considerations within fixed income and private credit, and how advisors can help clients interpret an increasingly complex investment landscape. The discussion concludes with a broader look at long-term structural forces such as demographics and technological change, emphasizing the ongoing role of advisors in providing context and perspective rather than predictions. What you'll learnHow institutional portfolio frameworks have influenced private client investingWhy expanded access to private markets increases the need for education and due diligenceConsiderations around equity concentration and diversificationHow fixed income and private credit can be evaluated within broader portfolio constructionWhy long-term trends such as demographics and innovation matter for planning discussionsThe evolving role of advisors in helping clients interpret information and risk Chapters02:43 Evolution of private client portfolio construction04:27 Access to private markets and investor education05:08 Considerations when incorporating private investments07:06 Client education in an information-rich environment08:49 Similarities between public and private investments12:36 Portfolio diversification considerations beyond concentrated equity exposure15:38 Fixed income positioning and portfolio considerations19:20 Private credit structures and due diligence25:13 International diversification and currency considerations27:40 Discussion on equity market dispersion and innovation35:19 Long-term demographic and structural considerations41:50 Portfolio construction as an ongoing process43:12 The continuing role of advisors  GuestsShannon Saccocia, Chief Investment Officer for Wealth, Neuberger Berman SpeakersJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup  Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupThe Bull of Wall Street is part of WCG’s ongoing effort to provide thoughtful conversations and perspectives for financial professionals. Subscribe for updates, insights, and discussions focused on supporting advisors and their clients as markets and practices evolve. Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #59 - Building a High-Value Advisory Practice with Ken Van Leeuwen, Managing Director of Van Leeuwen & Company: Planning Fees, Team Design, and Succession (recorded 02/03/26)

    In this advisor-to-advisor conversation, Jimmy Lee sits down with Ken Van Leeuwen, Managing Director of Van Leeuwen & Company, to unpack what it really takes to build a durable, high-touch wealth management practice over decades. What you'll learnKen shares how comprehensive planning became the foundation of his business, why he intentionally charges for advice, and how language, positioning, and a team-based client experience can elevate both client outcomes and practice sustainability. The episode also covers organic growth through client advocacy, mentorship, and how Ken approached succession planning after a personal wake-up call. Finally, Ken offers a practical view of where AI fits in an advisory firm: efficiency, not replacing the human relationship. Why Ken built his practice around paid planning (and why he avoids calling it “financial planning”)How EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) shaped his team structure and executionThe value of having two advisors in client meetings and how it supports continuityWhy words matter in client communicationHow Ken drives growth through client advocacy and referrals using Voice of the ClientThe real catalyst that pushed him to formalize succession planningWhere AI can help advisory firms immediately: notes, workflows, admin, and speed to service Chapters01:00 Ken’s journey into advice and why he went independent04:40 Team structure, EOS, and building a scalable practice08:40 Charging for planning and “Building Your Life Vision”14:50 Why every client gets two advisors in meetings20:00 The power of language and positioning in advice24:40 Organic growth: referrals, Pareto, and Voice of the Client33:20 Why corporate executives became the ideal client profile40:10 Succession planning and the wake-up call that changed everything45:40 Lessons Ken would tell his younger self55:20 AI in advisory firms Guest: Ken Van Leeuwen, Managing Director, Van Leeuwen & Company Host: Jimmy Lee, Chief Executive Officer & Financial Advisor, WCG Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #58 - Jared Dillian, founder of Armington Capital,  on Risk, Sentiment, and Why Courage Matters When Markets Feel Easy (recorded 01/28/26)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Talley Léger welcomes a longtime colleague and market veteran, Jared Dillian, editor of The Daily Dirt Nap, founder of Armington Capital, and an author of seven books. Jared and Talley reconnect through shared Lehman-era market scars and use that lens to talk about what investors consistently miss before major dislocations—leverage, liquidity, and confidence, and why those risks may be building quietly in private credit and private equity today. From there, the conversation shifts into the advisor playbook: how to think about risk management when markets are calm, why the Fed follows the “path of least embarrassment,” how advisors can use sentiment without becoming day traders, and why diversification across asset classes is still the most underutilized edge in wealth management. What you’ll learn• The warning signs investors tend to miss before major crises—and why leverage is the real accelerant• Why Jared’s top concern isn’t mega-cap concentration, it’s private markets leverage• How to approach risk management when markets are calm: “buy protection when you can, not when you have to”• The Fed’s true incentive structure, and why it’s often behind the curve• How advisors can use sentiment and positioning without turning into short-term traders• Why US-only “diversification” isn’t diversification—and how to build a real multi-asset portfolio• The behavioral mistake that shows up in every bull market: chasing what just worked• Why the best advisors need courage to do something different (even when it’s unpopular)  Chapters 01:10 – Dirtcon vs. DJ’ing Omnia: which was better (and why)03:05 – Jared’s subscriber base and what Dirtcon has become03:45 – Lessons from Lehman and market crises: what people always miss06:45 – Concentration risk vs. real systemic risk08:10 – What drives crises: leverage, liquidity, and confidence09:10 – Jared’s portfolio positioning: international, EM, commodities11:40 – Where leverage is building now: private credit / private equity13:20 – Markets at all-time highs: risk management when things feel easy14:00 – “Buy protection when you can, not when you have to” (pandemic puts story)15:20 – The biggest misconception about the Fed16:00 – “The Fed follows the path of least embarrassment”18:20 – 2022: when 60/40 broke and there was nowhere to hide19:00 – Is the Fed data dependent or political?21:15 – Does monetary policy still have signal?23:00 – How advisors can use sentiment without becoming day traders24:10 – Jared’s Edward Jones story: advisors chasing fear and greed28:00 – Bull markets: chasing, unrealistic expectations, and mean reversion risk30:20 – Valuations: useful long-term, not a short-term timing tool31:55 – Why US-only portfolios are dangerously narrow33:45 – Fear vs. greed: what’s most dangerous now37:10 – Forecasting vs. diversification (and Jared’s new book)40:20 – Jared’s 7th book: The Awesome Portfolio41:00 – Market narratives: analysis vs. storytelling (what actually sells)47:50 – Smart brevity and cutting through research noise49:50 – Closing advice: courage, “do no harm,” and protecting client wealth52:10 – Where to follow Jared + subscriber discount  GuestJared Dillian, Editor, The Daily Dirt Nap, Founder & Principal, Armington CapitalAuthor (7 books), including upcoming The Awesome Portfolio  HostTalley Léger, Chief Market Strategist, WCG  Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup  Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #57 – Scott Helfstein, Global X Global Head of Investments on Geopolitics, AI, and the New “Automation Age” (recorded 01/21/26)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden is joined by co-host Talley Leger and guest Scott Helfstein, Global Head of Investments at Global X. Scott brings a rare blend of experience across the Federal Reserve, investment banking, academia (West Point), and national security research, then connects the dots to what matters most for markets in 2026. The conversation moves from geopolitical strategy (including Greenland’s renewed relevance) to the Roaring 2020s framework, and ultimately into the investable reality of AI: not just “information,” but automation—where technology starts making decisions and taking actions, not just delivering insights. Scott also breaks down what thematic investing actually means, why margins may be structurally higher than history suggests, and where “economic broadening” is already happening beyond the mega-cap leaders.  What you’ll learn• Why U.S. interest in Greenland has historical precedent—and modern strategic logic• How Scott frames 2026 through a “Roaring 20s” lens (and what to watch for)• The shift from the Information Age to the Automation Age—and why it matters• Why profit margins may not mean-revert the way many expect• What “thematic investing” is (and what it isn’t) for advisor portfolios• Where Scott sees economic broadening even if market breadth remains narrow• Practical ways advisors can use technology to scale trust without replacing it  Chapters01:30 – Scott’s career path: Fed → banking → PhD → West Point → Wall Street → thematics04:15 – War studies, geopolitics, and Scott why Scott says it matters for markets05:20 – Greenland: the historical context and strategic rationale10:15 – Rare earths, Arctic lanes, and the national security lens11:15 – 2026 outlook: revisiting the “Roaring 20s” framework13:20 – Innovation cycles then vs. now: what rhymes with the 1920s16:15 – AI: what’s next (agentic AI, robotics, physical-world automation)20:35 – What is thematic investing, really?24:30 – Secular themes Scott’s watching: AI ecosystem, defense tech, infrastructure31:10 – Advisors and margins: scaling trust with technology35:55 – The K-shaped economy, rates, and what the Fed is missing41:10 – Creative destruction: jobs, opportunity, and the AI ecosystem buildout48:10 – “Circular investment” concerns: why this isn’t 2008 or dot-com53:10 – Scott’s contrarian view: economic broadening beyond mega-cap tech  GuestScott Helfstein, Global Head of Investments, Global X HostsJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCGTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, WCG Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup  Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #56 – Bob Pisani, CNBC Stocks Correspondent (Ret.) on Markets, Media, and the Biggest Investing Mistakes He’s Seen in 35 Years (recorded 01/12/25)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jimmy Lee, Jim Worden and Talley Leger are joined by Bob Pisani, legendary CNBC Stocks Correspondent, for a wide-ranging and deeply reflective conversation on markets, media, and investor behavior. Drawing on more than three decades reporting from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, Bob shares what he’s learned about forecasting, behavioral bias, media influence, and why most investors, professionals included, consistently make the same mistakes. From his formative relationship with Jack Bogle to his conviction in low-cost indexing, Bob offers timeless lessons that cut through market noise and short-term thinking. This episode is less about predictions and more about perspective. The kind only earned by watching markets, people, and cycles repeat themselves for 35 years. What you’ll learn• Why forecasting market returns is far harder and less useful than most investors believe• The most common behavioral mistakes investors make, even with perfect information• How media coverage shapes investor behavior (for better and worse)• Why Bob Pisani became a long-term, low-cost index investor• How advisors can help clients ignore noise and stay disciplinedChapters01:20 – Bob’s unconventional path to CNBC05:00 – The early days of CNBC and the rise of market media08:00 – Trust, reporting, and life on the NYSE floor14:00 – Jack Bogle’s influence and the case for indexing17:30 – Why stock picking and forecasting fail over time21:00 – Media, momentum, and recency bias24:30 – Behavioral finance and why humans struggle to predict the future29:00 – Market valuations, expectations, and long-term planning33:00 – Advice for advisors navigating signal vs. noise37:00 – Staying invested, managing risk, and playing the long game GuestBob Pisani, CNBC Stocks Correspondent (Ret.), and Author of Shut Up and Keep Talking HostsJimmy Lee, Chief Executive Officer, WCG,Jim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCGTally Lager, Chief Market Strategist, WCG Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #55 – Stephanie Aliaga, Global Market Strategist at J.P. Morgan Asset Management on 2026 Market Outlook, Global Growth, and What Could Break the Cycle (recorded 01/06/25)

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden sits down with Stephanie Aliaga, Global Market Strategist at J.P. Morgan, to kick off 2026 with a clear-eyed view of where the global economy and markets stand, and where the real risks and opportunities may lie. Stephanie shares J.P. Morgan’s latest thinking on U.S. growth, inflation, interest rates, global divergence, and the key forces shaping asset allocation decisions in the year ahead. From soft-landing probabilities to policy risk, earnings durability, and investor positioning, this conversation cuts through the noise and focuses on what actually matters for advisors navigating client portfolios in 2026. What you’ll learn:• How J.P. Morgan is positioning for economic growth and market returns in 2026• Why the U.S. remains resilient, and where cracks could still form• The biggest risks investors may be underestimating this year• How global divergence is shaping equity and fixed income opportunities• What advisors should be watching as policy, rates, and earnings intersect Chapters:02:30 – J.P. Morgan’s baseline outlook for the U.S. economy06:45 – Growth, inflation, and the soft-landing debate11:40 – Interest rates, policy expectations, and market reactions17:20 – Global divergence: where opportunities and risks differ23:10 – Equity markets, earnings durability, and valuation context29:00 – Key risks that could disrupt the 2026 outlook34:30 – What advisors should focus on in client portfolios this year39:15 – Final thoughts on navigating markets in 2026 Guest:Stephanie Aliaga, Global Market Strategist, J.P. Morgan  Host:Jim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCG Follow us:LinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice and your life better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #54 – Phillip "Felipe' Toews - Author & Founder/CEO of Toews Asset Management on The Behavioral Portfolio, Long-Duration Risk, and Why the 60/40 Model Breaks When History Matters (recorded 12/15/25)

    In this episode, Phillip "Felipe" Toews, author of The Behavioral Portfolio and a long-time advocate for risk-aware investing, joins Jim Worden and Paisley Nardini for a deep, historically grounded conversation on why conventional portfolio construction often fails investors when it matters most. Drawing on decades of market history, Phillip explains how long-duration bear markets, not short-term volatility, create the greatest behavioral and financial risk for investors and advisors alike. From the Great Depression to multi-decade bond bear markets, Phillip challenges recency bias, questions the foundations of the 60/40 portfolio, and outlines why advisors must think like chief risk officers first. The discussion explores behavioral finance, portfolio design, hedged equity strategies, adaptive fixed income, and why proactive communication, not reactive reassurance is critical to long-term client success. What you’ll learn• Why the 60/40 portfolio is a historical accident not a true design framework• How long-duration bear markets reshape investor behavior and decision-making• Why recency bias causes advisors and clients to underestimate real risk• How rebalancing can increase drawdowns in severe market regimes• What “left-tail risk” really means for real-world portfolios• Why advisors must proactively discuss worst-case scenarios before they happen• How hedged equity strategies can preserve upside while limiting catastrophic loss• Why behavioral risk often matters more than market risk Chapters03:00 — Phillip's journey: from Kansas to asset management and risk mitigation08:00 — Why investor timing destroys returns, even in good strategies13:00 — The Great Depression, bond bear markets, and what history really shows19:00 — Why the 60/40 portfolio fails during long-duration drawdowns25:00 — Rebalancing myths and behavioral breakdowns in severe markets31:00 — Rethinking portfolio design: cutting the left tail without killing upside37:00 — Hedged equity, adaptive fixed income, and managing uncertainty43:00 — Why advisors must act as chief risk officers49:00 — Communicating risk before markets fall, not afterGuestPhillip "Filipe" Toews, Founder & CEO, Toews Asset Management and Author of The Behavioral Portfolio HostsJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCGPaisley Nardini, Portfolio Manager, Simplify Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #53 – Ron Baron and Michael Baron of Baron Capital on Long-Term Ownership, Conviction Investing, and Building Generational Wealth (recorded 12/10/25)

    #53 – Baron Capital Founder and CEO Ron Baron and Co-President and Portfolio Manager Michael Baron on Long-Term Ownership, Conviction Investing, and Why Great Wealth Is Built by Owning Businesses In this episode, Ron Baron, Founder and CEO of Baron Capital, and Michael Baron, Co-President and Portfolio Manager, join The Bull of Wall Street for a wide-ranging conversation on generational wealth, conviction investing, and why true long-term success comes from owning great businesses rather than trading headlines. Ron reflects on the personal experiences that shaped his philosophy, the discipline required to hold through volatility, and what he calls the true test of friendship in investing. The discussion also explores Baron Capital’s expansion into ETFs and how advisors can think about structure, implementation, and long-term portfolio construction in a rapidly changing market environment.What you’ll learn:Why Ron Baron believes generational wealth is created by owning businesses, not buying and selling stocksHow conviction is built through deep research and first-principles thinkingLessons from holding investments through severe drawdownsWhat the Elon Musk and X investment revealed about risk, patience, and partnershipHow Baron Capital is translating its philosophy into ETF structuresWhy active management still matters in transformational technology cyclesHow advisors can frame volatility with clients through a business-owner mindsetChapters03:00 – From $100M to over $50B: the long road of ownership05:30 – Why selling great companies too early taught Ron that wealth is built by holding.08:30 – Michael’s perspective on growing into the process and building durable belief.10:45 – What it means to stand by an investment when sentiment turns sharply negative.16:30 – Why ETFs, why now24:30 – Why transformational tech is not a bubble and why selectivity still matters.32:30 – First principles and holding through volatility40:00 – Why owning growing businesses remains the best defense against uncertainty. GuestRon Baron – Founder, CEO, and Portfolio Manager, Baron CapitalMichael Baron – Co-President and Portfolio Manager, Baron Capital HostsJim Worden – Chief Investment Officer, WCGTalley Leger – Chief Market Strategist, WCG

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    #52 – Julius de Kempenaer, creator of Relative Rotation Graphs on Relative Rotation Graphs, Sector Rotation Intelligence, and Why Momentum Still Rules the Markets

    In this episode, Julius de Kempenaer, creator of Relative Rotation Graphs (RRG®), CMT charterholder, and one of the most influential technical minds in modern market analysis joins Jim Worden and Talley Leger for a deep dive into how professional investors spot rotation, manage risk, and visualize market leadership before it shows up in price. Julius shares the origin story behind RRG, why institutions rely on it globally, and how advisors can use rotation analysis to improve portfolio construction, timing, and client communication. From sector rotation to asset-class mapping to avoiding the “doghouse quadrant,” Julius breaks down the tools and signals that he thinks matter most in today’s market. What you’ll learn• How Julius invented Relative Rotation Graphs and why they changed market analysis• Why RRG captures true leadership changes better than traditional relative strength charts• How to read momentum, tail length, heading, and quadrant shifts with confidence• When a rotation may be an early warning signal vs. noise• Why tech dominance can distort traditional sector narratives• How to use RRG for equities, fixed income, currencies, crypto, and asset allocation• How advisors can use RRG visuals to simplify complex portfolio conversations Chapters:02:00 — Julius’ unexpected path: Dutch Air Force captain to fund manager to technical pioneer07:00 — How RRG was born: the Bloomberg debut and the Excel “aha moment”12:00 — Sector rotation today: tech strength, defensive improvement, and warning signs17:00 — How to interpret tail length, heading, and quadrant transitions22:00 — Lagging → improving vs. leading → weakening: what matters most27:00 — Using RRG for multi-asset portfolios, yield curve analysis, and crypto32:00 — Benchmark selection: why picking the wrong benchmark breaks your analysis38:00 — How advisors can use RRG to communicate positioning and risk44:00 — The future of rotation analysis and why momentum still works Guest:Julius de Kempenaer, CMT and Creator of Relative Rotation Graphs (RRG®) Hosts:Talley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, WCGJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCG Follow us LinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #51 – Rebecca Patterson, Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, on the “Jenga Tower Economy,” Policy Volatility, and What Could Shake Markets in 2025 (recorded 11/24/25)

    In this episode, Rebecca Patterson, Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and former Chief Investment Strategist at Bridgewater Associates, and Former Chief Investment Officer at Bessemer Trust, joins Jim Worden and Talley Leger to break down one of the most complicated macro environments of our careers. Rebecca explains why the U.S. economy resembles a “Jenga tower”, still standing, still rising, but increasingly unstable. She discusses the widening divide between large and small businesses, the uneven health of U.S. consumers, the risk implications of delayed tariffs, and why global policy uncertainty could matter even more than Fed cuts in 2025. She also dives into the dollar, gold, the future of immigration and demographics, and what AI-driven productivity might mean for long-term growth.What you’ll learnWhy Rebecca compares today’s economy to a “Jenga tower” with fewer supportsThe biggest risks to the 2025 outlook, including AI disappointment, Fed missteps, and wealthy consumer fatigueWhy small businesses are weakening more than large companies and why it mattersHow global fiscal challenges (“the Fragile Four”) could reshape currency dynamicsWhy the dollar’s next move may be lower despite global turbulenceHow AI, demographics, geopolitics, and climate will shape the next decadeWhat investors miss when they oversimplify tariffs and global trade flowsWhy diversification, not concentration, is the most important discipline heading into 2025Chapters02:00 — How Rebecca went from aspiring astronaut to journalist to global macro strategist07:30 — The “Jenga tower economy”: strong on top, fragile underneath12:00 — AI CapEx, wealthy consumer resilience, and what surprised markets in 202417:30 — What could cause the tower to wobble: labor trends, confidence, and policy volatility23:00 — Tariffs, USMCA, and how global supply chains really work28:00 — Dollar dynamics, the “Fragile Four,” and central bank gold buying34:00 — Bitcoin, tech, and whether crypto selloffs can trigger equity contagion41:00 — How macro frameworks evolve—and what doesn’t change46:00 — Long-term themes: tech, demographics, geopolitics, and climate51:00 — What investors should do now: diversify and avoid the panic tradeGuest: Rebecca Patterson - Senior Fellow, Council on Foreign RelationsHosts: Talley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, WCG and Jim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCG Follow usLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-wealth-consulting-groupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroupMaking Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources that make your practice, and your life better.Subscribe: bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #50 – ARK Investment Management's Founder & CEO Cathie Wood on AI, Robotics, and the Next 10 Years of Disruption (recorded 11/19/25)

    In this episode, Cathie Wood, CEO and founder of ARK Investment Management joins The Bull of Wall Street to explain why today’s innovation cycle is very different from the late-1990s tech bubble. She breaks down why the reality of technologies like AI, robotics, energy storage, multi-omics, and blockchain is here now, even as investors remain scarred by past manias. Cathie also dives into enterprise AI, Palantir’s role in transforming organizations, how ARK navigates drawdowns by concentrating into highest-conviction names, and what the world could look like in 10 years with autonomous vehicles, humanoid robots, and a fully financialized digital world. What you’ll learn:Why the late-1990s tech bubble “came too early” and why this time the tech is actually readyHow AWS, deep learning, and transformer models set the stage for today’s AI waveWhy Cathie believes we’re closer to “1995 than 2000” in the AI adoption cycleHow enterprise AI (and Palantir’s ontology layer) may disrupt traditional consulting and SaaSHow ARK responds when innovation stocks sell off: concentration, scoring, and thesis riskWhich incumbents are most vulnerable to disruption in software, banking, transportation, and healthcareHow AI, digital assets, and quantum computing intersect — and what that means for BitcoinCathie’s 10-year vision: robotaxis, air taxis, Mars robots, healthspan breakthroughs, and a bigger digital economy Chapters: 01:07 – Cathie’s journey: from AllianceBernstein to ARK and the seeds of today’s tech04:35 – Why this isn’t the 1990s all over again: costs, readiness, and investor scar tissue07:04 – AI in the real world: consumer adoption, enterprise bottlenecks & Palantir’s ontology13:11 – Navigating drawdowns: ARK’s scoring system, high-conviction names, and crypto exposure17:35 – Managing critics, staying focused on original research, and being a hedge to value traps21:25 – Disruption ahead: SaaS, banks, rails, pharma/biotech, and the shift from “sick care” to healthcare25:46 – Digital assets, quantum risk, and why AI may invest more capital than quantum (for now)28:45 – Cathie’s 10-year outlook: autonomy everywhere, space infrastructure, humanoid robots & the future of work Guest: Cathie Wood, CEO & Founder, ARK Investment ManagementHosts: Jimmy Lee (CEO & Founder, WCG), Jim Worden (Chief Investment Officer, WCG), and Talley Leger (Chief Market Strategist, WCG)  Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #49 – Author and former chief investment strategist Jim Paulsen on Early-Cycle Signals, Pessimistic Sentiment, and Why This Bull Market May Be Younger Than It Looks (recorded 11/17/25)

    In this episode, Jim Paulsen, PhD-trained economist and Paulsen Perspectives author, returns to The Bull of Wall Street to decode one of the strangest economic periods in modern history. Jim explains why this bull market may actually still be in its early stages, how policy has been historically tight beneath the surface, and why easing could unlock a broadening beyond the mega-cap names. He also dives into the misunderstood relationship between AI, productivity, and the future of work, and why the long-term outlook may be more optimistic than headlines suggest. What you’ll learn:Why Main Street sentiment looks like a recession despite rising marketsHow tech’s innovation cycle diverged from the traditional business cycleWhy Jim believes this bull market behaves like an early-cycle advanceHow policy (rates, M2, yield curve, dollar) has remained too tight for too longWhy small caps and cyclicals may be set for a catch-up tradeHow AI and productivity shifts could shape future growthWhy the U.S. has a growth problem, not an inflation problemJim’s long-term optimism for technology, global connectivity, and economic resilience Chapters:02:00 – Is this a new bull market? Sentiment, character, and early-cycle signals06:00 – The sentiment puzzle: Why Main Street feels terrible while markets rise12:00 – Tech vs. the rest: How the “new era” economy masked an old-economy recession18:00 – Productivity, profits, and why tech may operate on its own innovation cycle24:00 – Policy has been historically tight — and how easing could broaden the market31:00 – Small caps, cyclicals, and the setup for a potential rotation40:00 – AI: Productivity miracle, job fears, and long-term economic impact53:00 – Recession fears, the Fed’s dilemma, and why growth—not inflation—is the bigger issue01:04 – Jim’s long-term optimism: Technology, connection, and the next decade Guest: Jim Paulsen, Paulson Perspectives Hosts: Jim Worden (CIO, WCG), Talley Leger (Chief Market Strategist, WCG), & Paisley Nardini (Investment Committee, WCG) Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup  Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #48 - Ethos Investment Management founder & CIO James Fletcher on Emerging Markets, Boots-on-the-Ground Alpha, and Building the Next Generation of Investors (recorded 11/10/25)

    In this episode, emerging markets specialist and Ethos Investment Management founder James Fletcher joins host Jim Worden to unpack how “Warren Buffett-style” investing can thrive in inefficient markets, and why pairing returns with real-world impact can be a durable edge. James shares how Ethos uses a global network of locally based analysts and BYU Pathway graduates to uncover under-covered opportunities, and how Young Investor Society grew from one inner-city classroom to 3,400 high schools in 80 countries. What you’ll learn:How a boots-on-the-ground research model uncovers alpha in emerging marketsWhy small- and mid-cap stocks in places like India, the Philippines, Kenya, and Poland are so inefficientHow the Ethos Pathway Fund structure ties management fees directly to funding analysts from underprivileged backgroundsThe origin and global reach of Young Investor Society, and why high school students can be serious equity analystsWhere James sees the most compelling EM opportunities over the next 3–5 years (India, Southeast Asia, “Mag-7-adjacent” tech in Taiwan & Korea)His nuanced take on China, EVs, and domestic champions vs. multinationals Chapters:02:05 – From Brazil mission to emerging markets investor: James’ path to Ethos04:00 – Launching Ethos and building a locally based analyst team07:00 – BYU Pathway and the Ethos internship: turning education into alpha14:05 – Young Investor Society: from one LA classroom to a global program29:00 – Real-world examples: Philippine ports, Kenyan telecoms, and finding mispriced quality31:20 – Accessing India and other hard-to-reach markets34:20 – EM vs. US: currencies, valuations, and why James is bullish on EM now38:50 – China, EVs, and the rise of domestic champions46:55 – Scaling the Pathway model and what’s next for Ethos49:20 – How advisors and investors can think about EM allocations and get involved Guest: James Fletcher, Founder & Chief Investment Officer, Ethos Investment ManagementHost: Jim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #47 - Fairlead Strategies founder and technical strategist Katie Stockton on Technical Analysis, Trend Discipline, and Building a Risk-Aware ETF (recorded 11/03/25)

    In this episode, technical strategist and Fairlead Strategies founder Katie Stockton, CMT, joins hosts Jim Worden and Talley Leger to explore the discipline of technical analysis—how it complements fundamentals, informs risk management, and shapes portfolio strategy. Katie shares the story behind launching the Fairlead Tactical Sector ETF (TACK) and how she applies a systematic, long-term approach to identifying opportunities and managing drawdowns. What you’ll learn:  •  Why technical and fundamental analysis work best together  •  How to apply trend-following and momentum without chasing noise  •  Lessons from launching an ETF built for risk-aware investors  •  How advisors can use sector rotation and cross-asset diversification  •  Common mistakes advisors make when applying momentum or trend models  •  Katie’s most under-appreciated indicators for gauging trend exhaustion Chapters02:00 – From CMT to entrepreneur: Katie’s journey to Fairlead Strategies06:00 – Launching TACK: designing a risk-aware ETF12:00 – Technicals vs. fundamentals: finding balance18:00 – Sector rotation and market breadth24:00 – Risk management and adaptive models31:00 – The art of using indicators effectively45:00 – How advisors can apply trend discipline in practice58:00 – Katie’s most underrated tools and closing thoughts Guest: Katie Stockton, CMT, Founder & Managing Partner, Fairlead StrategiesHosts: Talley Leger (Chief Market Strategist, WCG) & Jim Worden (CIO, WCG) Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #46 - Adam Patti, CEO and Co-Founder of VistaShares on AI Infrastructure, Electrification, and Building ETFs for the Next Supercycle

    In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden sits down with Adam Patti, CEO and Co-Founder of VistaShares, to explore how ETFs are evolving in the age of AI, electrification, and innovation supercycles. From creating one of the first hedge-fund-replication ETFs to building a new generation of active, rules-based products, Adam shares insights into how investors can capture the infrastructure powering artificial intelligence, and why transmission, cooling, and power distribution may be among the biggest opportunities in years. The discussion also covers the concentration risk in major indices, the next phase of AI-driven capital spending, and how innovation in ETF design is meeting the demands of a fast-changing investment landscape. What you’ll learn:Why 30% of an AI data center’s cost is cooling—and who’s profitingThe “bill of materials” approach to ETF construction and why it mattersWhy AI infrastructure—not applications—will drive returns near termHow electrification, energy transmission, and power are the next frontierThe importance of real diversification as mega-cap concentration growsLessons from launching IndexIQ and building successful ETF families Chapters02:00 – From Fortune Indexes to founding IndexIQ03:46 – The early ETF era and selling to New York Life05:33 – Launching VettaFi and meeting Tesla’s former president06:50 – Building smarter AI ETFs with industry experts08:37 – Mapping AI’s supply chain: the “bill of materials” approach10:11 – AI infrastructure vs. applications: where the profits are11:19 – Power problem: generation vs. transmission opportunity15:23 – Early innings of the AI supercycle17:19 – Quantum computing, AI synergy, and what’s next18:22 – Overlapping supercycles: AI, robotics, biotech, and space23:14 – Inside VettaFi’s ETF families: growth, options income, tactical alpha25:33 – Options income strategies and building stability26:17 – High-beta exposure and the “WILD” ETF30:49 – Diversification, multifactor strategies, and position sizing31:40 – Growing investor interest in options income32:28 – Innovation pipeline: what’s next for ETFsGuest: Adam Patti, CEO and Co-Founder of VettaFiHosts: Jim Worden, CFA, CMT, CAIA Follow usLinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-wealth-consulting-group/⁠X (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupSubscribe for advisor-first insights and resources: bit.ly/wealthcg For advisor use only.

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    #45 - Cole Wilcox, CIO, Longboard Asset Management on Stock-Level Trend Following, Real Diversification, and When to Hit the T-Bill Brake (recorded 10/13/25)

    Cole Wilcox, Chief Investment Officer at Longboard Asset Management, discusses how to identify investments that may provide true diversification versus those that simply appear to. He also explains the difference between trend strategies and momentum approaches, and how stock-level trend following may help reduce correlation, improve tax efficiency, and enhance the overall client experience without relying on fully unconstrained futures strategies. What You’ll Learn  •  How to identify alternative investments that may provide genuine diversification.  •  The difference between trend strategies and momentum approaches.  •  How applying systematic trend techniques at the stock level may enhance portfolio diversification.  •  The role of disciplined risk management and when allocations may shift toward short-term Treasury bills.  •  How tax efficiency and loss-harvesting can vary between investment structures.  •  Practical portfolio considerations for using multiple, uncorrelated alternative strategies effectively. Advisors who are seeking ways to maintain diversification while improving the client experience with alternative strategies will find this discussion especially useful. Chapters:02:42 – Inside liquid alternatives and systematic trend strategies06:12 – Market cycles, investor behavior, and risk awareness09:20 – Trend vs. momentum: understanding the distinction14:01 – The evolution of trend following and Longboard’s approach16:51 – Why stock-level trend following may offer unique advantages21:18 – How systematic risk management can guide shifts toward T-bills25:21 – Building portfolios with diversification and discipline27:29 – Tax efficiency and potential long-term investment implications30:19 – How market dispersion and breadth can impact performance33:11 – Managing whipsaw risk and maintaining process discipline35:11 – Practical allocation insights and constructing an alt sleeve39:04 – Avoiding redundancy in alternative strategies42:07 – Balancing diversification goals with client experience Guest: Cole Wilcox, CIO,  Longboard Asset ManagementHosts: Talley Leger, Paisley Nardini, CFA, CAIA, and Jim Worden, CFA, CMT, CAIA Follow usLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-wealth-consulting-group/X (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupSubscribe for advisor-first insights and resources: bit.ly/wealthcg For advisor use only.

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    #44 - Andy Kalbaugh, President at The Wealth Consulting Group on the Future of Financial Advisors, Business Succession, and Lessons from a Life in Leadership

    Few people have seen the financial advice industry evolve from as many vantage points as Andy Kalbaugh. Before becoming President of The Wealth Consulting Group, Andy spent over 25 years in the C-suite, including leading American General Securities and Mutual Service Corporation, and serving as Managing Director and Divisional President at LPL Financial—helping steer it to become the largest independent broker-dealer in the U.S. In this episode, Andy joins Jimmy Lee to discuss the future of advice, what drives firm enterprise value, and how advisors can build businesses that last beyond them. From the role of technology and AI to the human side of client relationships, Andy shares hard-won insights on leadership, capital, and succession planning from decades at the top. What you’ll learn:  •  How technology is reshaping, not replacing, financial advice  •  The four pillars of enterprise value every advisor should track  •  Why building a repeatable business is key to freedom and valuation  •  Lessons from leadership at AIG and LPL that apply to any firm owner  •  The growing role of private equity and capital solutions in advisor succession  •  Why the human connection will remain at the center of wealth management Chapters:04:04 – The advisor landscape: how tech and human advice will coexist07:32 – The rise of $100B+ firms and the next wave of consolidation10:36 – Enterprise value: recurring revenue, organic growth, M&A, and talent15:30 – Building a business that runs without you: systems, process, brand19:14 – Working on the business vs. in the business24:26 – Attracting affluent clients through expertise and brand focus30:04 – Lessons from legends: Hank Greenberg, Mark Casady, and Dan Arnold34:42 – Industry risks, AI disruption, and why empathy still wins44:03 – Succession planning and the rise of private equity capital Guest:Andy Kalbaugh, President, The Wealth Consulting Group Host: Jimmy Lee, CEO, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-wealth-consulting-group/X (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #43 - Ashim Mehra on AI’s Frenetic Pace, Bubbles vs. Manias, and the Next Wave of Disruption (recorded 09/29/25)

    From the dot-com era to today’s AI boom, Baron Technology Fund portfolio manager Ashim Mehra has seen innovation cycles up close. In this episode, he joins Jim Worden and Talley Leger to break down the layers of AI (infrastructure, models, and applications), where the real opportunities lie, and why even trillion-dollar narratives need perspective. The conversation explores the speed of disruption, global competition, capital flows, and how investors can separate durable trends from froth. What you’ll learn:How AI compares to the internet revolution and why the pace is even fasterWhy infrastructure, models, and applications each carry different investment risksThe difference between a bubble and a mania—and why AI is not just airHow OpenAI, Nvidia, and other players are shaping short-term demandWhy long-term winners will be defined by innovation speed and executionThe global AI race between the U.S. and China, and what it means for investorsPractical examples of applied AI already transforming industries Guest: Ashim Mehra, Portfolio Manager, Barron Technology FundHosts: Jim Worden (CIO, WCG) & Talley Leger (Chief Market Strategist, WCG) Follow usLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-wealth-consulting-group/X (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup 02:01 – AI’s rapid evolution and comparison to the internet era03:29 – The AI stack: infrastructure, models, and applications08:13 – Bubble vs. mania: why AI is real but returns may not be linear11:09 – Nvidia, OpenAI, and the concentration of demand15:34 – Beyond productivity: medicine, robotics, chemistry, and new compounds29:54 – AGI timelines and why enterprises chase the prize36:26 – Evaluating people and pattern recognition in investing37:35 – U.S.–China AI race, geopolitics, and cloud gatekeepers43:41 – Risks to capex: power, efficiency, and ROI concerns48:55 – Applied AI examples: Axon police workflows and Hinge Health PT57:18 – Small/mid-cap opportunities and concentration challenges60:05 – Stock picking today: more data, more volatility62:13 – Will AI replace investors or become an efficiency tool? Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you are ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice and your life better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #41 - Dr. Matthew Schwartz, MD and Dr. Thomas Dayspring, MD, FACP, FNLA on Cancer Innovation, Cardiovascular Disease Prevention, and What Everyone Needs to Know (recorded 09/15/25)

    Health is wealth, and as advisors the impact we make extends beyond portfolios. In this two-part episode, Jimmy Lee first sits down with his good friend Dr. Matthew Schwartz, radiation oncologist and UNLV faculty member, to explore how proteomics is changing cancer treatment. Then Dr. Thomas Dayspring, one of the world’s foremost educators on lipids and mentor to Dr. Peter Attia, explains why cardiovascular disease remains the number one preventable cause of death, plus the simple blood tests and treatments that can save lives.Disclaimer: This episode is for informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. Please consult your physician for personal medical guidance. What you’ll learn:How proteomics differs from genomics and why it could be a game changer for cancer careWhy many oncologists are not yet using this testing and what patients and families should knowThe role of precision oncology in identifying the right treatment at the right timeWhy cardiovascular disease is still the leading killer, and how ApoB and Lp(a) testing can change outcomesTreatment options that go far beyond good vs. bad cholesterol, and what longevity-focused medicine recommendsPractical steps advisors and their clients can take to advocate for their healthChapters00:00 – Welcome and episode purpose02:18 – Dr. Matthew Schwartz on proteomics vs. genomics07:06 – How Ignite testing works and why it matters11:07 – Effectiveness, adoption, and access for patients16:31 – Awareness, advocacy, and making cancer a chronic disease21:23 – Dr. Thomas Dayspring on cardiovascular disease prevention28:36 – ApoB and why particle number drives risk40:12 – Lipoprotein(a), genetics, and early testing52:08 – Treatment options: lifestyle, statins, PCSK9s58:40 – Lowering ApoB, plaque, and longevity goals01:19:21 – Target numbers and why very low is safe01:26:23 – New therapies for Lp(a) and what’s ahead01:33:20 – Diet, imaging, and practical takeaways01:37:56 – Education gap and being your own advocate01:42:39 – Closing thoughts and advisor roleGuests:Dr. Matthew Schwartz, MD, Radiation Oncologist, Comprehensive Cancer Centers of NevadaDr. Thomas Dayspring, MD, FACP, FNLA, Educator on Lipids, Early MedicalHost: Jimmy Lee, CEO, The Wealth Consulting GroupFollow usLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-wealth-consulting-group/X (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroupMaking Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you are ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice and your life better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg

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    #40 - Jonathan Krane, CEO of KraneShares on China as an Asset Class, AI’s “ChatGPT Moment,” and What Advisors Are Missing (recorded 09/08/25)

    Here's the title and description. Title:Jonathan Krane, CEO of KraneShares on China as an Asset Class, AI’s “ChatGPT Moment,” and What Advisors Are Missing Description:Are your clients under-allocated to the world’s second-largest economy? KraneShares CEO Jonathan Krane argues China is behaving like a distinct asset class—and many portfolios aren’t built for it. What you’ll learn:Why China’s share of EM could justify EM ex-China + China completion strategiesHow A-shares, Hong Kong, and U.S. listings fit together in practical ETF allocationsWhy 2025’s AI and clean-tech surge in China may mirror the U.S. “Magnificent 7” runHow sentiment, low local rates, high savings, and targeted policy shifts can fuel flowsA realistic path for U.S.–China engagement that balances competition and cooperationWhere advisors can find thematic exposure (EVs, batteries, energy storage, biotech, carbon)Chapters00:00 – Welcome: Talley Leger & Jim Worden set the table01:08 – Founding KraneShares: boots-on-the-ground in Shanghai → ETF thesis05:48 – China as its own allocation: from EM to EM ex-China + China08:17 – Sentiment shift & 2025 performance: why investors may be caught off guard13:23 – Efficient access for advisors: core A-shares + thematic building blocks14:20 – Tech leadership: EVs, batteries, solar, AI, biotech—what scaled first in China17:18 – Cooperation vs. competition: a pragmatic framework for engagement23:47 – Infrastructure 2.0 & domestic demand: savings, stimulus, and renewal26:13 – Clean energy reality: EV adoption, storage, and grid-friendly solutions29:34 – What KraneShares is watching: AI, humanoid robotics, carbon markets, alts31:25 – Tokenization: new liquidity pools for “traditional” products32:16 – Closing thoughts & takeaways for advisor portfoliosGuest: Jonathan Krane, CEO of KraneSharesHosts: Talley Leger (Chief Market Strategist, WCG) & Jim Worden (CIO, WCG)Follow usLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-wealth-consulting-group/X (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroupMaking Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg 

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    #39 - Fred Meissner, CMT- Owner of the Fred Report (recorded 08/25/25)

    Fred and Talley go all in on what’s happening in the markets.  As a former President of The Chartered Market Technician Association, Fred combines a  macro background to technical analysis.  The Fred Report provides research to his clients that includes financial advisors.  He currently likes some asset classes that present both attractive charts and value.  Don’t miss Fred and Talley discuss current markets and how technicals are blinking green in some areas that investors are not paying enough attention to.

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    #38 - Meb Faber, CEO, Co-Founder and CIO of Cambria Investment Management, author, speaker, and podcast host The Meb Faber Show (recorded 08/18/25)

    Meb, Paisley, Jim and Talley riff about surfing, 351 ETF conversions, stock buy backs, shareholder yield, why Mark Cuban is wrong, and much more!  Meb is one of the best personalities in finance with a combination of knowledge and great communication skills.  Listen to our gang and Meb discuss why certain investment strategies are ripping today and some are not.  He likes being diversified right now- FYI! He's also hosting a surf event at Future Proof for those who are attending.  Don't miss Meb on The Bull of Wall Street!

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    #37 - Carley Garner, DeCarley Trading (division of Zander) Senior Commodity Strategist, Broker, Author, Columnist (recorded 08/11/25)

    Carley is a regular in the financial media being interviewed everywhere for her expertise in trading, options, commodities, and the markets.  She talks to Jim about how managing risk and her concerns about how deleveraging can affect certain products out there.  It’s an important interview to get all investors to pay attention to risk.  Carley points out how all of the money that has been created and invested into the economy has created inflation in many assets. She also points out the trading strategies that many investors are using may be exposed to more risk than they think.  She also talks about Crypto brokerages and how some of them operate.

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    #36- Zack Ellison, MBA, MS, CFA, CAIA, Managing General Partner and Chief Investment Officer of Applied Real Intelligence, LLC (A.R.I.) (recorded 08/04/25)

    Zack is a venture debt investment fund manager and podcast host.  He is also an author with a very unique perspective being a part of some of the biggest bond trades of all time.  A.R.I. provides growth credit to the best VC-backed technology companies in North America. He was Director of U.S. Public Fixed Income at Sun Life Financial.  Prior to Sun Life, Zack was a corporate bond and credit default swap trader at Deutsche Bank.  During the GFC, he was an investment banker where he successfully underwrote and managed a portfolio of leveraged media, tech, and telecom loans at Scotia Bank.   Zack talks to Jim and Talley about how venture debt works.  The strategy includes lending against revenue vs. hard assets for typical loans. In many cases it's the intellectual property that is used as the collateral for these loans.  Learn about why private lending has taken off and more specifically concerning the fast moving tech sector.  

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    #35 - Jan van Eck, CEO, VanEck (recorded 07/28/25)

    Jan van Eck is the CEO of VanEck, an asset manager that been known since 1955 for identifying investment trends.  VanEck was one of the first U.S. asset managers to offer investors access to international markets and recognized early the transformative potential of gold investing, emerging markets, ETFs and digital assets. Today, the firm’s capabilities range from core investment opportunities to more specialized exposures to enhance portfolio diversification.Jan brings a unique approach and perspective to investing.  His quote, “Don’t settle for the conventional. Dare to be different.”

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    The Bull of Wall Street #34 - Chuck Jaffe, Journalist, Host of “Moneylife with Chuck Jaffe”

    Chuck talks to Jim, Talley, and Jimmy about all of his amazing guests he’s had a chance to interview.  He believes that the Fed will not cut rates before the end of this year and gives us his reason why.  We explore the do it your self investor and if they have changed based on demographics.  He has written books about how to pick an advisor and provides great insight about investor’s with his many years of experience being a journalist first leveraging radio and now podcasts.

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    #33 - Ed Clisshold, CFA, Chief U.S. Strategist, Ned Davis Research (recorded 7/14/25)

    Listen to what makes Ed constructive on equities and also what risks he sees that could disrupt this bull market.   As the Chief U.S. Strategist for one of the industry’s most respected research firms, Ed shares with Jim and Paisley what their research shows that is forming his current views.  It’s a great listen on how the economy may shift and the markets may react.

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    #32 Mike Green - Portfolio Manager and Chief Strategist, Simplify Asset Management (recorded 07/07/25)

    One of the most intellectual discussions with a guest about all things money.  Jim, Talley, and Jimmy have a ball talking about the markets, the “Volmageddon” trade that netted $244m for Thiel Macro, Ai, Bitcoin, and more with Mike.   It’s a must listen to hear from one of the industries most celebrated investors among the hedge fund followers.  We also discuss the passive vs. active debate but in a way that considers very different aspects that are not spoken about frequently.  Mike’s new book coming out this fall/winter will provide a provocative view around this issue.

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    #31 - Eli Horton, Managing Director, TCW, Portfolio Manager of TCW Transform Systems ETF (recorded 06/30/25)

    Jim talks with Eli about the energy transformation happening right now in the United States and abroad.  It’s an informational conversation about one of the most important foundational issues in business today.  Questions such as how do we power the AI revolution and what technologies will be the critical drivers of the evolution in energy are discussed.  The rapid change in how energy and power are sourced, produced, transported, and consumed is creating once-in-a generation investments across sectors including industrials, energy, materials, and technology.

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    #30 - Cliff Asness, Managing and Founding Principal, AQR Capital Management (recorded 06/23/25

    Jim, Talley and Paisley have an insightful conversation with one of the investment and hedge fund industries legends.  Cliff shares his journey as the managing founder of AQR and the evolution of quantitative analysis.  As AQR’s investment strategies have taken off targeting high net worth investors Cliff talks about the innovation that has helped their company take the lead in working with investment advisors.  He also discusses his views around the economy and markets.  Don’t miss this episode with one of the best in the business.

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    #29 - Paisley Nardini- CFA, CAIA, Talley Leger, Jim Worden- CFA, CAIA, CMT, Jimmy Lee (recorded 6/10/25)

    The WCG investment team riff about what's concerning investors and advisors right now.  We discuss tariffs- are they really inflationary?  What about the Fed- what will they do with cuts or no cuts?  Recession- yes, no or something else?  What sectors might perform better than others in this environment?  What about the Mag 7- is it still a good strategy?  What about bonds?  Join us in this discussion about what we think is important for advisors to be considering right now. 

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    #28 - Anh Tran, CFP, Esq., Managing Partner, Sagemint Wealth (recorded 05/27/25)

    Anh and Jimmy talk about how she began her career as an attorney then transitioned into financial planning at Goldman Sachs before starting her entrepreneurial journey founding Sagemint Wealth.  What you will learn from this conversation is how Anh acquired an advisory business and integrated the clients into her practice.  We also discuss being a female and minority executive in finance, her parents immigration into the United States and how that foundation has translated into her family’s mantra “Live Well, Do Good” and conclude by learning about Anh’s passion for integrating health and longevity into her life and business.

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    #27- Marc Cohen, Group Managing Director, LPL Financial, Head of Corporate Strategy

    Listen to Jimmy interview Marc about what every independent financial advisor wants to know- what is LPL Financial’s vision and plan for the future of independent advice.  They discuss the Commonwealth acquisition, different affiliation opportunities with LPL, private equity, what the industry could look like in 10 years, and how advisors needto position themselves for the unprecedented transition of founder advisors to the next generation.

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    #26- Jason Hsu, Founder, CIO, Chairman- Rayliant Global Advisors, Chief Economist- East West Bank, Co-Founder- Research Affiliates, Professor- UCLA (recorded 05/19/25)

    The hits go on with Jason Hsu discussing international markets, US debt downgrade, tariffs and much more with Paisley and Jim.  Jason provides a great perspective on why the U.S. cannot pay off our debt and why our companies get labor overseas.  You don’t want to miss this very informative macro conversation!

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    #25 - John Bowman, CAIA- CEO, CAIA Association, Podcast Host/Board Member/Investment Committee Chair (recorded 5/12/25)

    Paisley and Jim talk with John about everything Alts.  John explains that CAIA’s goal is to make alternatives not alternative and more a standard.  The total portfolio approach (TPA) started  with researching and incorporating hedge funds many years ago and now includes all flavors of private investments.  As alts have exploded advisors can benefit by listening to John about optimizing the portfolio in today’s environment.   He explains how institutional investors are evolving their approach using the TPA.

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    #24 - JB Hayes and Curt Fintel, co-founders of Variant Investments (recorded 04/28/25)

    In this episode, we talk about trade finance and the implications of tariffs. We talk about litigation finance, what it is and how it works. We talk about making some royalty income from streaming Elvis Presley. We talk about how Variant has a pulse on small business and may have a better read on the economy and the probability of a recession than large top-down macro shops. Finally, we talk about the structure of interval funds and how this might fit in a portfolio.

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    #23 - Jim Worden, CFA, CAIA, CMT and Talley Leger, Chief Market Strategist (recorded 04/21/25)

    Jim and Talley discuss markets and the economy.  They express their views and why they think we are in the middle of another buying opportunity.  Contrarian to the current consensus they depart from the “recession is near” ideology being discussed by many popular economists and suggest that while the economy is slowing that the US may avoid entering into the big R.  Even if the US slipped into recession it could be short lived and equities have a chance for a strong rebound from these levels.

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    #22 - Adam Parker, CEO and Founder, Trivariate Research, former Chief US Equity Strategist and Global Director of Quantitative Research, Morgan Stanley and Sanford C. Bernstein (recorded 04/14/25)

    Adam joins Talley and Jimmy to discuss his views on the markets, entrepreneurship, the economy, and how he sees the rest of 2025 unfolding.

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    #21 - Bob Elliot, Co-Founder and CEO Unlimited, Former IC and Head of Ray Dalio’s Investment Team, Bridgewater

    Bob joins the pod to discuss alts, macro, geo-politics, tariffs, tech, and what he learned at Bridgewater.  His new company is using machine learning to bring 2&20 type strategies to Main Street.

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