Three Or More Podcast

In this episode of the Three or More Podcast, Mauricio and Lars dive into one of the most misunderstood concepts in the New Testament: “surrendering someone to Satan.”How do you reconcile that kind of language with a God who is love? When is it biblical to separate from someone? And how do you protect your walk, your family, and your calling without slipping into legalism, cancel culture, or cold-hearted religion?Starting in 1 Corinthians 5, Lars walks through Paul’s teaching on church discipline, leaven in the church, and why certain patterns of unrepentant sin can’t be tolerated in close fellowship. From there, the conversation gets painfully practical:How do you love family members whose beliefs are toxic, racist, or destructive?What’s the difference between loving people and enabling them?When is “protecting your peace” actually just New Age language wrapped in Christian words?How can cutting someone off for a season actually save them in the long run?Mauricio shares vulnerably about his own journey with boundaries around his kids’ mom and how a lack of godly boundaries created strongholds, pain, and fallout in his family. Lars opens up about a public family situation on social media, how he had to draw a line, and what it looked like to do that in love while still honoring Christ.Later in the episode, Lars shares his own story of being legalistic and harsh in early ministry—judging people by outward appearance, modesty, tattoos, and “holiness rules”—and how the Lord corrected him, broke him, and led him into a deeper revelation of grace.They also touch on:The difference between judgment and condemnationWhy love is the foundation, but wisdom, boundaries, and holiness matterHow “turning someone over” can mirror Joseph’s story, Philemon & Onesimus, and even Lot leaving SodomWhy some friendships and connections are actually hindering what God wants to do in your lifeThe episode closes with a powerful prayer for deliverance, healing, and salvation for listeners who feel stuck in unhealthy relationships, strongholds, or confusion about God’s love and discipline.If you’ve ever wrestled with questions like “When do I cut someone off?” “Is this love or enabling?” “How do I honor God and still love people well?” — this episode is for you.What “surrendering someone to Satan” means in 1 Corinthians 5The danger of leaven in the church and in close fellowshipDifference between worldly “protect your peace” and biblical boundariesLoving people vs. enabling destructive behaviorHow separation can become a redemptive tool in God’s handsPaul, Barnabas, and Mark: disagreement, separation, and eventual restorationJoseph’s story as a picture of separation and later reconciliationLot leaving Sodom and why God sometimes moves the righteous outThe difference between righteous judgment and condemning people to hellLars’ testimony of legalism and how God broke a judgmental mindsetA prayer for freedom, healing, and salvation1 Corinthians 5:5–13 – Delivering one to Satan, leaven in the church2 Corinthians 6:14–18 – Do not be unequally yokedGalatians 2 (implied) – Early church conflict and doctrine issuesMatthew 7:1 – “Judge not…” (and how it’s often misused)John 7:24 – Judge with righteous judgment1 Peter 4:8 – Love covers a multitude of sinsRomans 10:17 – Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God2 Corinthians 5:17 – New creation in ChristMark 8:34–35 – Deny yourself, take up your cross, follow JesusPsalm 23 – The Lord as ShepherdGenesis 18–19 – Abraham, Sodom and Gomorrah, and LotStory of Joseph (Genesis 37–50)Philemon (whole letter; Onesimus returning)1 Timothy 2:3–5 – God desires all men to be savedKey Topics CoveredScripture References (Mentioned or Alluded To)

In this episode of the Three or More Podcast, Mauricio sits down again with Lars and Trisha to pick up where they left off on demonic oppression vs. possession—but this time through the lens of marriage, mental health, and deliverance.Trisha shares in detail how a crippling season of anxiety, panic, and mental breakdown wouldn’t lift, even after counseling, doctors’ visits, exercise, hormone work, and “doing all the right things” in the natural. It wasn’t until a visiting pastor helped them recognize the spiritual root of the battle that everything began to shift.From there, Lars and Trisha walk through:How they discerned this wasn’t “just mental health” but spiritual oppressionThe moment a pastor said, “You’re fighting in the flesh… this is a spiritual battle”What it looked like to strengthen the spiritual man through fasting, prayer, and surrenderHow Trisha’s hidden shame, past immorality, and undealt-with trauma opened doors to the enemyWhy confession, honesty in marriage, and testimony became the key to breakthroughHow Lars’ dreams, spiritual discernment, and compassion as a husband played a crucial roleThe difference between oppression (external pressure) and possession (internal control)How their children were affected—and how generational cycles can stop with youTrisha also shares vulnerably about:Growing up without a protective father and enduring a wild, destructive season as a teenagerThe moment God cleansed her and covered her with the blood of Jesus—but how shame and secrecy still lingered for yearsThe breaking point that led to a mental hospital stay, and how God met her thereComing clean with Lars after years of hiding parts of her story—and the instant weight that lifted when she finally walked in the lightLars adds a powerful teaching side:How the enemy waits for “opportune times” to cash in on undealt-with sin and iniquityWhy God sometimes allows affliction as a form of loving chastening and pruningHow fasting exposed a hidden heart issue in his own life—and how God healed him when he chose to worship Jesus regardless of the outcomeWhy generational iniquity, unbroken covenants, and spiritual legal ground matter more than we thinkIf you’ve wrestled with:Anxiety, panic, or “unexplainable” oppression that won’t breakConfusion over what’s mental health and what’s spiritual warfareHidden shame, secrets in marriage, or fear of being truly knownGenerational patterns and strongholds you don’t want your kids to inherit…this conversation will minister deeply to you.Key Themes:Demonic oppression vs. possession in real lifeSpiritual roots of “natural” problemsMarriage, unity, and transparency as spiritual warfareGenerational curses, covenants, and breaking cyclesThe power of testimony: “They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony” (Revelation 12).🔔 If this episode encouraged you, share it with a friend, a couple, or someone battling anxiety or spiritual oppression. Your share might literally be part of their breakthrough.Connect:Podcast: Three or More PodcastHost: MauricioGuests: Lars & Trisha

Are all dreams just your imagination? Or could they be a divine message? Was it the pizza you ate that gave you the dream where you were marrying Bernard from accounting? In this episode, we explore how God still speaks through dreams and how to differentiate if it was from God, your flesh, or even the devil. From Joseph to Daniel to modern-day testimonies, God has used dreams to warn, guide, and reveal purpose.We’ll cover: • How to discern if a dream is from God, your flesh, or the enemy • What the Bible says about dreams and visions • Real stories of God speaking through dreams • Common misconceptions and spiritual dangers to avoid • How to test and respond to a dream from the LordWhether you’ve had strange dreams or powerful night visions—or you’re just curious—this livestream will equip and encourage you.Join the conversation, share your dream stories in the chat, and let’s seek God’s wisdom together.

Join us as we dive into the concept of God speaking to us through dreams. Is it biblical? Are my dreams from God? Are my dreams from the devil? Are my dreams from my flesh? All these questions an more are answered in this episode!

In this episode we dive into the difference between conviction and condemnation. How to recognize which is which and how to navigate them.

In this episode we discuss Authority in Christ and what it looks like in a believers life.

In this episode we continue the conversation of the prophetic gifting through Holy Spirit. We discuss the difference between fortune telling and the prophetic gift. What are the responsibilities of the prophet? What is the gifting for? Who is a prophet?

In this, our first episode, we discuss cessation and non-cessation believes. The truth about the prophetic gift of the Holy Spirit. Join us as we have this conversation about the gift of prophecy and the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Who are false prophets? What is prophecy? Is it for today? Why is it impotant?