Undercooled: A Materials Education Podcast

Tim and Steve talk with Professor Alan Taub, the director of the University of Michigan EV Center and former Vice President of General Motors, director of global R&D for GM for 20 years.Bio:Alan Taub joined the faculty of Materials Science and Engineering at the University of Michigan in the Fall of 2012. In this role, Taub is conducting research in advanced materials and processing.  He founded and served as CTO of the Manufacturing USA Institute Lightweight Innovations for Tomorrow (LIFT), founded the Michigan Materials Research Institute and serves as the director of the newly formed University of Michigan Electrical Vehicle Center.  Taub retired from General Motors in April 2012. Prior to retirement, he was vice president, Global Research & Development, leading GM’s advanced technical work activity, seven science laboratories around the world including the Israel Advanced Technology Center, and seven global science offices.  He joined GM R&D as executive director in 2001 and was named vice president in 2009.  Taub advises several startups including C2a and X2F, is technical advisor for the strategic venture capital fund, Auto Tech Ventures and serves on the Technology and Strategy Committees for Bocar and Master Fluid Solutions. Before joining GM, Taub worked at Ford Motor Company for eight years.  Before that he spent 15 years in research and development at General Electric (GE), where he earned 25 patents. He has also authored more than 80 papers and has 27 patents.Taub received his bachelor’s degree in materials engineering from Brown University and master’s and Ph.D. degrees in applied physics from Harvard University.  Taub was elected to membership in the National Academy of Engineering in 2006 and elected to the council for NAE in 2016 and 2019.  He became an SME Fellow in 2019 and a TMS Fellow in 2018.  He served as the Chair for the Visiting Committee on Advanced Technology (VCAT) for the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and on advisory boards for the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Northwestern University, and the University of California Davis and Berkeley. Among other recognitions and honors, Taub received the 2020 TMS Application to Practice Award and the 2011 Acta Materialia Materials & Society Award.  In 2010, ASM International’s Rocky Mountain Chapter awarded Taub the Charles S. Barrett Medal from.  In 2007, he was invited to give the TMS-50th Anniversary Laureate Lecture.  He received the 2004 Materials Research Society’s Special Recognition Award and the 2002 Woody White Service Award.  Brown University awarded Taub the Engineering Alumni Medal in 2002.  The YouTube video can be found here:https://youtu.be/4f-aPXslEN0Our YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the TMS Foundation (https://www.tms.org/TMSFoundation/TMSFoundation/Default.aspx), The Electric Vehicle Center (EVC) at the University of Michigan (https://evc.engin.umich.edu/), and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk with Professor Ashwin Shahani about his role as undergraduate chair, how he approaches teaching kinetics with ChatGPT and vibe coding, as well as his research in solidification science.  Professor Shahani also talks about how he is incorporating his work with Hydro, an Al production company, to help them upcycle post-consumer scrap Al into high-quality products.  Short Bio:Shahani is an Associate Professor of Materials Science and Engineering at the University of Michigan. His group specializes in the application of advanced characterization methods for the study of phase and structural transformations in metallic materials. In support of his research pursuits, Shahani has won the AFOSR YIP award in 2017, ARO YIP in 2018, and NSF CAREER in 2019.  Recently, in 2025, he won PECASE, the highest honor bestowed by the federal government to young scientists beginning their academic careers.  Learn more about his teaching and research activities at:  https://www.ashwinshahani.com/The YouTube video can be found here:https://youtu.be/PGPM47J8qWcOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the TMS Foundation (https://www.tms.org/TMSFoundation/TMSFoundation/Default.aspx), The Electric Vehicle Center (EVC) at the University of Michigan (https://evc.engin.umich.edu/), and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Tim and Steve caught up with Dr. Avi Bregman at the TMS meeting.  Avi is at the Applied Physics Lab at Johns Hopkins University. He is the section supervisor for Materials Discovery there.  He talked about his journey to Materials Science and his career path after getting his PhD.  He talked about the work he is currently doing.  Avi also told us about his company that helps smaller universities get research funding, especially those that do not have the administrative staff to handle the details of actually getting the funds to the University.You can learn more about Avi's company, E4 Power, here:http://e4power.org/You can contact Avi here:[email protected] or [email protected] Bio: Dr. Avi Bregman currently serves as a senior staff scientist and section supervisor for Materials Discovery at the Applied Physics Lab at Johns Hopkins University (APL/JHU). In this role his recent work and interests span a variety of disciplines including composites (ceramic and polymer), nanoparticle synthesis and characterization, EMI shielding, green H2 generation, high temperature systems, FEM modeling in COMSOL, and additive manufacturing. Prior to APL/JHU, Dr. Bregman spent time at Sandia National Labs studying the resiliency of novel composite systems in extreme radiation environments. Dr. Bregman earned his undergraduate degree in Chemistry from Haverford College and his Ph.D. in Materials Science and Engineering from The University of Michigan. Additionally, Dr. Bregman serves as the Director of Pre-Award Services at E4 Power inc.The YouTube video can be found here:https://youtu.be/AFzNJAjCr8oOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the TMS Foundation and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk about how to use stories of successful sustainability projects in the curriculum of second to fourth year engineering courses.  They explain how they will use several of the future podcasts to collect these stories.  They also talk about how these stories may end up framing an open source "textbook" for introductory materials science and engineering and complement higher level classes up to the graduate level.  Joel McDonald sent us some background links that explain more about how Dow Chemical Co developed the methods to recycle polyurethanes.  These could be used in a polymers course, a chemical engineering course, or a sustainability course.  Joel also suggested having students learn about the patent process by having them look up the related patents and talk about how this will protect Dow's IP.  This is an often under valued part of the sustainability process.Links:https://corporate.dow.com/en-us/news/press-releases/dow-jlr-and-adient-develop-industry-first-breakthrough-circularity-automotive-seating.htmlhttps://www.dow.com/en-us/product-technology/pt-polyurethanes/sustainability/polyurethanes/depolymerization.htmlhttps://corporate.dow.com/en-us/news/press-releases/dow-and-gruppo-fiori-develop-breakthrough-recycling-process.htmlhttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/dow-polyurethanes_dow-x-gruppo-fiori-video-1-activity-7373731403550863360-u-ObThe YouTube video can be found here:https://youtu.be/hFbXyDyGzagOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the TMS Foundation and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk with Dr. Joel McDonald, the Technical Director for Mobility products at Dow Chemical company.  Joel was Steve's PhD student and an Applied Physics graduate at U. Michigan.  He talks about how he first worked at Sandia National Labs before transitioning to Dow Corning, and later Dow.  He explains how he was able to perform well in a chemical company even though his background was in optics.  He has leveraged his Applied Physics and Materials skills learned in grad school to rise to a very high level at Dow and bring the right products to customers and help Dow make money.  He talks at length about some of the very successful recycling efforts at Dow, specifically about how Dow has found a way to recover critical chemical components from polyurethane products in automobiles.  Using their separation and chemical techniques they are able to create products from recycled vehicles that make mattresses or even seats for brand new luxury cars.The YouTube video can be found here:https://youtu.be/sHoE_wJ54-kOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the TMS Foundation and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk to Prof. Patrick Shamberger from the MS&E department at Texas A&M.  He tells us the story of how he helped build a new materials department and create a new curriculum for their students.  He also talks about his research in phase change materials and how they may be one of the keys to a sustainable energy future.You can learn more about Patrick here:  https://engineering.tamu.edu/materials/profiles/pshamberger.htmlYou can learn more about Patrick’s research here:https://phate.tamu.edu/You can learn more about the Texas A&M Materials Science and Engineering department here:https://engineering.tamu.edu/materials/index.htmlPatrick also runs an REU program that is still recruiting!https://engineering.tamu.edu/materials/undergraduate-research/index.html Bio:  Dr. Patrick Shamberger has a background in functional inorganic materials, including interests in phase transformations, crystal structure/property relationships, and thermodynamics. These have been applied to a range of problems on both natural (geological) and engineered systems. Currently, he is an associate professor with the Department of Materials Science and Engineering at Texas A&M University, College Station. Prior to this, he served as a materials research engineer for the Air Force Research Lab in the Nanoelectronic Materials Branch (AFRL/RXAN) and Thermal Sciences and Materials Branch (AFRL/RXBT). His areas of focus at AFRL were in the areas of plasma-assisted deposition processes for high-mobility nanocrystalline oxide films, and in reducing the variability of oxide-based resistance switches. Previous efforts have included development of rapid, low-temperature thermal storage based on phase change, physisorption, and chemical dissociation processes. Patrick Shamberger received his Ph.D. in Materials Science & Engineering from the University of Washington in 2010, an M.S. in Geology & Geophysics from the University of Hawaii in 2004, and a B.S.E. in Civil & Environmental Engineering from Princeton University.The YouTube video can be found here:https://youtu.be/wcNyzSuRbiYOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the TMS Foundation and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Tim and Steve talked with Dr. Paul Krajewski, the Director of Materials and Manufacturing Research at the General Motors Global Research and Development Center, about sustainability at GM, his work, what he looks for in hiring, and much more.  He even talks to us about his STEAM interests and the books he has written for kids.BIODr. Paul E. Krajewski is the Director of Materials and Manufacturing Research at the General Motors Global Research and Development Center.  Paul also represents GM as the USCAR Council Member and as the Technical Director for HRL Laboratories. Dr. Krajewski is a global expert in vehicle lightweighting and lightweight materials and manufacturing. He received his Bachelors and Doctorate in Materials Science and Engineering from the University of Michigan. He has led production implementations with aluminum, magnesium, and carbon fiber composites including body panels on the 2014 Corvette Stingray. Dr. Krajewski has 80 publications and has been awarded 81 US Patents. He has been recognized by Fortune Magazine (40 under 40) and MIT’s Technology Review (TR100) as a leading innovator, and is a Fellow of ASM International. He has appeared as a subject matter expert on the History Channel's Modern Marvels Aluminum Program and won numerous automotive industry innovation awards. He was inducted into the National Academy of Engineering in 2020. Paul has also published three children’s STEM / STEAM books entitled “What's In Your Car”, " What's In Your Body", and "What's In Your Plane". Book Website -   https://periodictablebooks.com/ Link to GMR&D’s website   https://www.gm.com/research Link to job openings at GM   https://search-careers.gm.com/en/jobs/The YouTube video can be found here:https://youtu.be/y75UqJXN1dsOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the TMS Foundation and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).  

Steve and Tim talk with Professor Rob Beck at the University of Michigan.  Rob and Steve teach a joint course combining MSE with Archaeology & Anthropology to teach materials engineering students about the humanities and to teach humanities students about engineering.  The course is called "Making Things: Three Million Years of Materials and Culture".  It is based on work that Kevin Jones (see podcast episode S1E8) did in his Impact of Materials on Society project.  This version was reworked with Archaeology instead of the Sociology. We discuss all aspects of the course, including many tangents into the wild world of materials history and culture!You can find our more about Rob here:https://lsa.umich.edu/anthro/people/faculty/archaeological-faculty/rabeck.htmlThe article about Rob's work in Cahokia that he talks about at the end of the podcast can be found here (highly recommended reading):https://lsa.umich.edu/lsa/news-events/lsa-magazine/lsa-magazine-archive/spring-2025/notes-from-underground.htmlRob is also Curator of the UM Museum of Anthropological Archaeology: https://lsa.umich.edu/ummaaYou can find a video where Rob and Steve talk about the course for a virtual talk they presented on the meaning of social learning here:https://youtu.be/osBdpU5VA_sA video introducing the course from a few years ago can be found here:https://youtu.be/e82iosMorBoThe YouTube video can be found here:https://youtu.be/nxeVc67cLkkOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the TMS Foundation and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Tim and Steve interview Dr. Tricia Nguyen about her career in textiles that evolved from her degrees in Materials Science & Engineering.  She currently owns and operates a historical embroidery company, Thistle Threads: https://thistle-threads.myshopify.com/pages/about-us . If you're interested in learning more, you can even take classes in historical needlework projects at her online university! https://thistle-threads.thinkific.com/ .  We also discuss the implications of her research for STEM education and how we can engage more women in STEM careers.The YouTube video can be found here:https://youtu.be/BkTVetZBhv0Our YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talked with Professor Ivan Baiges from University of Puerto Rico - Mayaguez about the new undergraduate program he and his team developed called Sustainability Engineering.  He described the need for such a program, especially in Puerto Rico, as well as how he went about assembling a team of faculty to do the hard work of creating new courses, convincing administrators, and making it happen.  He suggested several books that inspired him, and he recommends them to all interested in Sustainability Engineering.You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/DB3lG_fE9L0Here is his reading list:On the subject of “Emergy or Embodied EnergyEnvironment, Power, and Society for the Twenty-First Century: The Hierarchy of Energy Illustrated Edition; by Howard Odum (Author)ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 9780231128872Emergy or EMbodied/EMbedded energy is based on the concept that the value of something (ecosystem, products/materials, services, built environment, etc.) is based on the amount of resources/energy that goes into creating that something, instead of how much one is willing to pay for it. This is an excellent method to understand the actual value of any given material solution.On the subject of Economics in a different light:Small Is Beautiful: Economics as if People Mattered by E. F. Schumacher (Author)Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st-Century Economist by Kate Raworth (Author)Natural Capitalism: Creating the Next Industrial Revolution by Paul Hawken , Amory Lovins, L. Hunter Lovins (you can download the whole book in pdf format at https://www.natcap.org/ ) On circular design and the circular economy:Cradle to Cradle: Remaking the Way We Make Things, by William McDonough and Michael Braungart The Upcycle: Beyond Sustainability--Designing for Abundance, by William McDonough and Michael Braungart Circular Economy, Ellen MacArthur Foundation https://www.ellenmacarthurfoundation.org/topics/circular-economy-introduction/overview You can find more about Ivan at this link: www.linkedin.com/in/ivan-baiges-valentin-023106223; email [email protected]    You can find more about the U. Puerto Rico Mayaguez Sustainability Engineering here: https://www.uprm.edu/isos/en/ (ISOS stands for Ingenieria de Sostenibilidad or Sustainability Engineering)You can find more about the U. Puerto Rico Mayaguez here: https://www.uprm.eduOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Professor David Srolovitz has made many important contributions to materials science and engineering during his career.  He is a member of the National Academy of Engineering and will be receiving the Hume-Rothery award at TMS next year.  He was visiting Michigan to present the Larry Van Vlack lecture and we were honored by his presence.  Dave and Steve were grad students together at U. PA many years ago.  Liz Holm, the UM Materials Science and Engineering chair was Dave's second PhD student when Dave was a professor at UM.  Unfortunately, Dave's schedule was tight and the only time we were able to sit down with him was during Tim's class.  So Liz graciously sat if for Tim and was this week's guest host.  It was great to talk to Dave and Liz about his career, teaching, research, AI, and other topics.  We even found out where Dave gets his best ideas!  Dave is currently the Dean of Engineering at Hong Kong University.  You can find the YouTube version here:https://youtu.be/fUpfMayle3IOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talked with Professor John Allison about Integrated Computational Manufacturing Engineering (ICME) and his PRISMS center.  John talked about how creating the Virtual Aluminum Casting program at Ford led to the ability to predict properties of the as cast aluminum engine blocks to the point where they were perfect the first time.  This vastly improved the time to develop new products for Ford and helped significantly to the development of lighter weight vehicles.  John also talked about his current role in helping improve the recycling of aluminum waste for large scale castings using ICME.  John also talks about his new PRISMS center, Magnesium alloys, the importance of team dynamics in accomplishing his work, and how he got into materials science and engineering.You can learn more about the PRISMS center here:https://prisms-center.org/#/homeYou can find the YouTube version here:https://youtu.be/pF0YSMdrNBAOur YouTube channel can be found here:http://www.youtube.com/@Undercooled.MaterialsThis episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Tim and Steve talked with Lily Turaski from Georgia Tech at the NAMES conference in August, 2025.  Today's episode focuses on engineering education research.  We discussed the importance of education research and how it applies to actually teaching, what are the barriers to adoption of research-based teaching strategies, and important problems in education research.  We also discussed some preliminary results from Lily's ongoing research in materials education.You can find the YouTube version here:https://youtu.be/MzkBTuO2sJ0Check out the video version to see the visual presentation of research results!This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim caught up with Professor Alison Polasik at the 2025 NAMES meeting in Atlanta.  We talked about what it is like to teach at a small school, Campbell University, compared to her previous position at Ohio State.  We also talked about her research and what she is currently interested in.  She has recently been teaching classes that are integrated with small laboratory experiences right in the same roomYou can find the YouTube version here:https://youtu.be/iDSLFpaSLdE?si=_--jufs-qmIC5KA7This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu). 

Steve and Tim talk about reinventing our Materials curriculum based on what we have learned in the past year.  AI has had a profound effect on the job market in areas like computer science.  Is the Materials job market going to have a similar downturn?  What can we do about it?You can find the YouTube version here:https://youtu.be/dnPnxCC_vA0This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu). 

Tim and Steve talk with 4 participants in the Summer 2025 ASM Teacher's Camp in Ann Arbor.   You can learn more about the camps athttps://www.asmfoundation.org/teachers/materials-camps/year-one/Over 12000 teachers have participated in ASM camps to date - it's a leading program in bringing materials science to the K-12 space.You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/-9dLj7b_OkMThis episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu). 

Steve and Tim talked with Prof. Ron Kander at the NAMES meeting in Atlanta last month.  Ron talked about his experiences creating new engineering programs, first at James Madison University and later at Philadelphia University which has now become Thomas Jefferson University.  He took the Olin model one step further by developing a design first approach that included Engineering, Design, and Business.  You can learn more about the Kanbar College of Design, Engineering & Commerce (Named for Maurice Kanbar - not Ron Kander) here:https://www.jefferson.edu/academics/colleges-schools-institutes/kanbar-college-of-design-engineering-commerce.htmlRon has recently retired but his information is still up on the Thomas Jefferson University website:https://www.jefferson.edu/academics/colleges-schools-institutes/kanbar-college-of-design-engineering-commerce/about/message-from-dean.htmlYou can also learn about Ron and his research at this page:https://ronkander.academia.edu/The YouTube video of the podcast can be found here:https://youtu.be/mDSWLACjg2MThis episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu). 

Steve and Tim talk with Dr. Christian Casper about how he teaches technical communication to students at the University of Michigan, in particular how we've integrated more advanced teaching in visual and written communication in materials lab classes..  You can learn more about the Program in Technical Communication at https://techcom.engin.umich.edu/You can find the YouTube version here:https://youtu.be/h-au8o3-3x8This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu). 

Tim and Steve talk about what is coming up in Season 3 of Undercooled.  We will publish our first episode of season 3 on August 31st!You can find the YouTube version of this trailer here:https://youtu.be/QJU_wInoIYUThis episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu). 

Tim talks with Kaitlin Tyler this week at the ASEE meeting in Montreal. Kaitlin works for ANSYS as an Education Content Developer. We discuss career trajectories in MSE and the importance of networking and attending conferences. We also tell some stories about the North American Materials Education Symposium (NAMES) and why everyone should attend it. It's not too late to register for NAMES 2025! You can learn more about Kaitlin here: https://www.ansys.com/authors/kaitlin-tylerSome of Kaitlin's educational content with Ansys is available on YouTube:https://youtu.be/JE1TFLl_aIs?si=_V_YvtbHytq7vUX9General Ansys link for educators:www.ansys.com/education-resourcesYou can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/oSlnrw9ASYghttps://youtu.be/JE1TFLl_aIs?si=_V_YvtbHytq7vUX9This episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu). Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech. Workshops on August 4th: https://www.names25.mse.gatech.eduSite for all of the international Materials Education Symposia:www.materialseducation.com

Steve and Tim talk with Bill Callister, the author of the best selling introduction to materials science and engineering text book.  Bill tells us how he got into materials and how he ended up writing a book that is now in its 10 edition!You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/QxhWipW6vbc?si=UlzlbFllpEdQDtgOThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Steve and Tim talked with Professor Diran Apelian from UC Irvine.  Diran talks about his journey to Materials Science and Engineering through his days at Drexel, MIT, Bethlehem Steel, back to Drexel, Worcester Polytechnic Institute, to Irvine.  He explains his foray into project based learning and now his new course on Professional Skills that he is teaching at Irvine.  You can find more about Diran here:https://engineering.uci.edu/users/diran-apelianhttps://www.nae.edu/19579/165897/20676/166043/20685/55293/148200/148206/Dr-Diran-ApelianYou can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/F5dG8SQC_rY?si=MirD-Z9Tv_UztTBvThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Steve and Tim talk with Prof. Robert Talbert from Grand Valley State University.  Robert is a math professor and has been very influential in inverted or flipped teaching and alternative grading in the past 20 years.  Recently, he and a colleague, William Clarke, also a math professor at Grand Valley State University, wrote a book called "Grading for Growth".  Most of the podcast is focussed on the ideas, implementation, and impact of the book.  Robert also let us know that he is in the process of publishing a second edition of this flipped teaching book that should be available soon.  Robert has a very comprehensive document which links to many resources that he has developed over the years.  Here is that link:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1is0DKmhYMAUrCWN73_1U_GLMj_BXjyAAFZiY17eUq4I/edit?usp=sharingYou can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/xokqniPiMwA?si=_vOHftlBV46gHH0AThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Tim and Steve talk with 4 of the Materials Science and Engineering undergraduate students who got to fly to Las Vegas to attend the TMS annual meeting in April 2025.  They talked about their experiences and the impact that it had on their education and outlook for the future.You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/yG4KzbWLh3w?si=HGqhaznlJFzLfmNpThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Steve ran into Christina Haden at the 2025 ABET symposium in San Diego two weeks ago.  Christina has developed a multi step method of assessing student outcomes using performance indicators that span a period of time across an entire curriculum to gain knowledge of learning growth.  She is experimenting with longer times and using her methods to perform longitudinal studies of learning gains.  She also talked about of her more exciting projects that is focussed on a new first year in engineering experience that the P.C. Rossin College of Engineering is piloting next term.You can learn more about Christina here:https://engineering.lehigh.edu/faculty/christina-viau-hadenChristina’s department website is here:https://engineering.lehigh.edu/mecheYou can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/Dd_k0z2TEoM?si=T0pLTOayDDFxKawBThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Steve and Tim ran into Taylor Sparks at the TMS meeting and decided to do a podcast.  Taylor is a professor in the Materials Science and Engineering Department at U. Utah.  He is also the host of the long running materials science podcast called "Materialism: A Materials Science Podcast".  You can find the podcast on Apple Podcasts at the link below or you can just search for it on any podcast platform:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/materialism-a-materials-science-podcast/id1448663986You can find out more about Taylor and his research here:https://profiles.faculty.utah.edu/u0203991or here:https://my.eng.utah.edu/~sparks/group.htmlYou can also find out about many of his excellent educational resources and courses on his YouTube Channel here:https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@TaylorSparks⁩ You can find the YouTube video of the podcast here:https://youtu.be/iUxrAqhyn3A?si=-1jk3SGtEpm7RH7AThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Tim and Steve were at the TMS meeting in Las Vegas and ran into Professor Jerry Floro from the Materials Science and Engineering Department at the University of Virginia.  We talk about his efforts to bring active learning into his classes, his work in helping start an undergraduate program at UVa, and lots of other fun things.  You can learn more about Jerry and the MS&E department at UVa at the links below:About Jerry:https://engineering.virginia.edu/faculty/jerrold-floroAbout the MS&E department at UVa:https://engineering.virginia.edu/department/materials-science-and-engineeringYou can find the YouTube video of the podcast here:https://youtu.be/1vupBU4yBuI?si=yXqFL5cYqCTnr79AThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Steve and Tim were walking through the TMS Annual Meeting Exhibit hall in Las Vegas and stopped to talk to Dr. Adam Hope at the Thermo-Calc booth. Adam is a member of the TMS education committee.   He told us how he became a Materials Scientist and what a materials student might want to do if they wanted to get a job at Thermo-Calc.You can learn more about Thermo-Calc here:https://thermocalc.comYou can find the YouTube video of the podcast here:https://youtu.be/43zMoKA51PA?si=MDAhvVzAJ7pU5_MzThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Steve and Tim talk with Chris Gordon, the Director of the Wilson Student Team Projects Center at the U. of Michigan.   Chris tells us how the Wilson Center got started and evolved into what it is today.  There are 24 competition teams at the Wilson Center and it supports many capstone design projects, our Multidisciplinary Design program, and more.  Chris explains why community and safety are at the core of the center and how students and faculty help each other succeed.  He also talks about why this kind of engaged learning is a powerful tool for our student to experience.You can learn more about the Wilson Center here:  https://teamprojects.engin.umich.eduYou can make it here. The Wilson Center celebrates 25 years of student-driven building, learning and growing.  Includes a YouTube video with some amazing comments by current students and alumni about their experiences in the Wilson Center.The bumpy road to greatness. A rough 2024 season sparks frustration—but also leadership and learning—for the Michigan Baja team.  Also includes a longer video story. You can find the YouTube video of the podcast here:https://youtu.be/xLaBNL0Srbw?si=CdSydgHIL8YrSLgEThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium, a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Tim and Steve talk with Professor Wenhao Sun about the way he is using Chat GPT in his thermodynamics and kinetics classes.  Wenhao demonstrates how he teaches students to use Chat GPT as a collaborator to solve much harder problems that are usually given to students.  He believes that this lets his students experience the higher levels of Blooms taxonomy and shows how he does this in a live demonstration.Here is a link to a short video describing Professor Sun's research:  https://youtu.be/cO7jEApzKoo?si=IhcLScABV4H29AeAYou can learn more about Professor Sun and his research at this link:  https://mse.engin.umich.edu/people/whsunHis research website is here:  https://whsunresearch.group/You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/apwS69uE8h8?si=Q9XzZ17qHYLmShpiThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Tim and Steve talk with Izzy Jaszczak about Michigan Technological University's metal casting course and the major changes the teaching staff has made to increase the course capacity to 60 students.  This was a course that she had taken as an undergraduate.  Working with Dr. Paul Sanders, Dr. Dale Dewald, and Peter Jaszczak, she updated the lab curriculum to give students more individual hands-on time with equipment.  Izzy also talks about the research half of her role helping students, staff, and faculty collect data using scanning electron microscopes.Here is a link to a Google Slide deck about the changes (PDF is also attached): https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1yQDSaQuAsHL5VHnIKnoMJgS6BITqOjybiErm8GpoRFg/edit?usp=sharingMTU Summer Youth Programs: https://www.mtu.edu/syp/MTU MSE Department:https://www.mtu.edu/materials/You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/jxoVAsaJGps?si=QKZyGqWmjBb4qf4sThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).Please attend the North American Materials Education Symposium next summer, August 5th - 6th at Georgia Tech.  Workshops on August 4th:https://www.names25.mse.gatech.edu

Tim and Steve talk with Dr. Enze Chen, a Lecturer in Materials Science and Engineering at Stanford University.  We talk about Enze's unique approach to teaching, his computational modules and materials informatics.  We touch on topics such as teaching Gen Z students, generative AI, and visualization in materials education.  Dr. Chen even talks about his sketching course for MS&E students.  You can learn more about Enze and peruse some extra resources at his website: https://enze-chen.github.io/The materials informatics curriculum is further discussed here: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jchemed.2c00640You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/pYlAex1u2bk?si=3xkS_3a909pG3F74This episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

In this episode, Steve and Tim reflect on their recent teaching experiences, focusing on Tim's new math course and Steve's grading for growth experiment. They discuss the positive feedback from students, the structure of the math course, and the challenges of integrating AI tools in education. Additionally, they explore innovative grading methods that emphasize student engagement and learning retention, highlighting the importance of feedback and reassessment without penalty. In this conversation, Steve discusses his approaches to enhancing student accountability, revising grading practices, and implementing final exams to ensure true assessment of student learning. He also addresses the challenges posed by academic dishonesty in the age of digital tools like ChatGPT and reflects on the importance of teaching students to use such tools responsibly. The conversation concludes with thoughts on future improvements in teaching methods and grading systems.You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/SJA_A14u0zA?si=URvbsfkLVUy_WdduThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk with Dr. Ellen Solomon, one of the program managers of the Multidisciplinary Design Program (MDP) at the University of Michigan.  Ellen graduated with an MS&E degree from Michigan and worked in industry before coming back to Michigan to run the research program side of MDP.  She talked to us about this very unique program that incorporates not only research projects, but projects from industry as well.  About Ellen:  https://mdp.engin.umich.edu/staff/ellen-solomon/UM MDP: https://mdp.engin.umich.eduUM MDP research projects for 2025: https://mdp.engin.umich.edu/all-projects/?_project_type=research_teamsUM MDP industry projects for 2025: https://mdp.engin.umich.edu/all-projects/?_project_type=sponsor_teamsThere are still openings to join MDP industry teams in 2025!  Axalta, PPG, and Donaldson are recruiting MSE students to join these projects.  Please reach out to [email protected] with your interest and submit an application to the waitlistYou can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/9KSnHQ0nXCM?si=3zejkDKUuUC77pAqThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk with Professor Tresa Pollock from UC Santa Barbara, the 2024 Van Vlack Lecturer in the MS&E department at U. Michigan.  Tresa has had a very long and distinguished career in Materials Science and Engineering and has mentored many many graduate students.  We had a discussion about graduate student mentoring amongst other things.  You can find her website here:https://materials.ucsb.edu/people/faculty/tresa-pollockYou can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/MWnFnHt8nPQ?si=0FQIiEcqFvDx-qgAThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk with Dr. Tershia Pinder-Grover, the director of the Center for Research on Learning and Teaching in Engineering (CRLT-Engin) in the College of Engineering at the University of Michigan.  This year marks the 20th anniversary of CRLT-Engin, a focused teaching center where the consultants all have degrees in engineering as well as engineering education.  CRLT of University of Michigan is the first University teaching center in the nation.  CRLT Engin: https://crlte.engin.umich.edu/CRLT UM: https://crlt.umich.edu/You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/C2hNb4MykY0?si=Vfw8Z36oN2dndq7cThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) a gift from Prof. Ron Gibala, and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve talks to Tim about his new math course.  He explains how it is going, what is challenging, and what is better than expected.  He also discusses his grading, student input, and other aspects of this new course.You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/djBIrRZLFVc?si=chiFCb_WQTaf3RmWThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Tim talks with Micah Gendich, the University of Michigan MSE student association president.  UM has an organization called the Michigan Materials Society (MMS) that is run by undergraduate students with a little help from the graduate students.  They organize weekly luncheons, social events, and also professional development events.  They also engage with outreach and recruiting activities for our department.You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/B7JFoX8M3g4?si=irxZxVRPmO6TCFLcThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Tim and Steve talk about how they are getting ready for classes - which start next week!Tim is creating a completely new class that has never been taught before - Math for MS&E students at the second year undergraduate level.Steve is making some major changes in his team based intro to materials course by adding in components of Grading for Growth methods.some links:  Get the book Grading for Growth:https://www.amazon.com/Grading-Growth-Alternative-Practices-Engagement/dp/1642673811You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/jtFvVGab-pU?si=nn-UzjfPg_edMYKCThis episode is sponsored by the North American Materials Education Symposium (https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/) and the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Cindy talks with Tim and Steve about Engineering for One Planet and how she worked with the Lemelson Foundation to launch it.You can find the information talked about in the podcast here:https://engineeringforoneplanet.org/resources/https://engineeringforoneplanet.orgYou can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/b9KCccgB-ls?si=VK8htMYw7f-NrAcQThis episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

SummaryIn this conversation, Steve, Tim and Marcus discuss the challenges of attracting students to material science and engineering (MSE) programs. They explore the concept of jobs to be done, which includes the functional, emotional, and social aspects of a product or service. Marcus suggests that MSE programs should focus on the emotional and social jobs that potential students want to fulfill, such as their interests in fashion, sneakers, and tangible experiences. They also discuss the importance of conducting netnography to understand the cultural context and language of potential students. By engaging with influencers and communities in relevant subcultures, MSE programs can better communicate their value and attract students. In this conversation, Marcus Collins discusses how to analyze Reddit subcultures and apply those insights to marketing strategies. He explains the process of observing and translating conversations in subreddits to identify common themes and insights. Collins also emphasizes the importance of understanding the language, behaviors, and cultural production of a subculture to effectively engage with them. The conversation then shifts to the topic of education and how instructors can approach teaching from a psychological and cognitive science perspective. Collins suggests creating a classroom environment that allows students to bring their full identities and interests into the learning process. The conversation concludes with a discussion on bridging the gap between art and engineering and the potential for interdisciplinary courses that combine marketing and material science.TakeawaysMSE programs should focus on fulfilling the emotional and social jobs that potential students want to achieve.Understanding the cultural context and language of potential students is crucial for effective communication.Engaging with influencers and communities in relevant subcultures can help MSE programs attract students.Netnography, or online ethnography, can provide valuable insights into the interests and preferences of potential students. Analyzing Reddit subcultures can provide valuable insights for marketing strategies.Observing and translating conversations in subreddits can help identify common themes and insights.Understanding the language, behaviors, and cultural production of a subculture is crucial for effective engagement.Creating a classroom environment that allows students to bring their full identities and interests can enhance the learning experience.Bridging the gap between art and engineering can lead to innovative and interdisciplinary approaches in education.Links:You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/axan8p8sHFE?si=ZDwzpjH2NVdQYNhqYou can buy Marcus's book:  "For the Culture"Here:  https://www.amazon.com/Culture-Power-Behind-What-Want/dp/1541700961?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DERYou can learn more about Marcus here:https://michiganross.umich.edu/faculty-research/faculty/marcus-collinsand here:https://www.marctothec.com/You can find out more about the North American Materials Education Symposium this coming summer in Ann Arbor here:https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk about the new season for the 2024-2025 academic year.  They plan to continue having great guests and add some curricular topics.  Please help us with our show!  Head over to this link and give us some feedback, suggest guests, suggest topics, suggest yourself!You can find the YouTube video (audio only) here:https://youtu.be/0_Qb8FnFTOU?si=EVf7mE0cMcbIdakSFeedback form:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScmi5go4JEjI2msncKTtXznqVv2RQm9a_vsdCr5Bu9wTCHsbQ/viewform?usp=pp_urlWe thank the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu) for their continuing support!

Gerard Mourou was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2018 along with his former student Donna Strickland.  The Nobel Prize was for developing chirped pulse amplification of femtosecond laser intensity.  This led to many important applications including the all laser Lasik eye surgery, a new method to reduce space junk by using coherently combined femtosecond pulses in space, astrophysics research, particle generation and acceleration, and many new advances in radiation therapy and other medical applications.  Ever since his first professorial position at the University of Rochester, he has had undergrads working for him in his lab.  He talks about these early experiences and how amazing these students were.  He also talks about the value of the NSF Research Experience for Undergraduate (REU) programs such as the one he inspired that sends students to Paris to work on ultrafast optical science - Optics in the City of Light.You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/6DOsVg1uHlI?si=Vt4TG4uzn8N3G5HlYou can find out more about the North American Materials Education Symposium this coming summer in Ann Arbor here:https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk with Dr. Ray Decker today.  Ray earned his undergraduate and graduate degrees at the U. of Michigan.  He spent most of his career at International Nickel Corporation and has since started several companies as an entrepreneur.  Thixomat and Nanomag are his two most recent companies.  He has been very active in ASM and especially the ASM Foundation.  Ray is especially interested in Materials Education and has worked tirelessly for the ASM Foundation in recent years on the teachers camp and he is on the external advisory board for the U. Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department. ASM:https://www.asminternational.orgASM Foundation:https://www.asmfoundation.orgYou can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/Pg0Qr_ZX-AE?si=XwpLby8japS3yhfsYou can find out more about the North American Materials Education Symposium this coming summer in Ann Arbor here:https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

You can find the YouTube version of the Podcast here:https://youtu.be/cyw4_vGhy34?si=6CIQBrkptLvgv2m5We also have a condensed video version that can be found here:https://youtu.be/hCV4XCp5s20?si=QSoQWPcBpT-pZ1WoYou can find out more about the North American Materials Education Symposium this coming summer in Ann Arbor here:https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Tim and Steve talk with Aeriel about her experience being a student and transitioning to an assistant professor at the Ohio State UniversityYou can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/BjT98yLSNjI?si=_rm_tfMsvBXF1-7UYou can read about the Aeriel Views project here:https://aerielviews.blog/You can read more about her work with SWE Liberia here:https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s11837-020-04312-3.pdfYou can find out more about the North American Materials Education Symposium this coming summer in Ann Arbor here:https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Tim and Steve talk with Chip Keough, the former CEO of Applied Process, Inc and the past chair of the ASM Foundation.  Chip is a UM Alum and currently and adjunct faculty member of the UM MSE department.  Chip explains the difference between ASM and ASM Foundation and why the materials community benefits from both.  He has been very involved with the ASM Foundation teachers camps and talks about it in the podcast.ASM:https://www.asminternational.orgASM Foundation:https://www.asmfoundation.orgYou can find out more about the teacher camps at this link:https://www.asmfoundation.org/teachers/materials-campsIf you are interested in attending a camp in 2024 use this link:https://www.asmfoundation.org/teachers/camp-schedule/You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/QRnP7xR-hXY?si=Nqs7_GmMOw9NQ60TYou can find out more about the North American Materials Education Symposium this coming summer in Ann Arbor here:https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Steve and Tim talk about projects they have students do instead of exams.You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/Lrp4zelzJ1c?si=2fYK-W9y8ZJWq1zbYou can find out more about the North American Materials Education Symposium this coming summer in Ann Arbor here:https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Peg and Tim talk about the ASM Foundation teacher camps.You can find out more about the teacher camps at this link:https://www.asmfoundation.org/teachers/materials-campsIf you are interested in attending a camp in 2024 use this link:https://www.asmfoundation.org/teachers/camp-schedule/You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/rPdIOcQkiEQ?si=eyl4JG-aHSHqyvRaYou can find out more about the North American Materials Education Symposium this coming summer in Ann Arbor here:https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).

Jeff Fergus joins Steve and Tim to talk about ABET.  Jeff has been the chair of the Engineering Accreditation Commission at ABET, is currently working on the ABET accreditation council and is very involved in evaluator training.  He has previously been the chair of the TMS accreditation committee and has been a longtime organizer of the TMS Judson symposium.   Jeff is also a professor of Materials Engineering at Auburn University and is currently the Associate Dean for Undergraduate Studies and Program Assessment in the Samuel Ginn College of Engineering. You can find out more about Jeff here:  https://eng.auburn.edu/dei/jeff-fergusThis episode can help your program succeed in its next accreditation visit!  You can find the YouTube video here:https://youtu.be/cyH36EloGZY?si=jiJib6X78vhc8Av3You can find out more about the North American Materials Education Symposium this coming summer in Ann Arbor here:https://java.engin.umich.edu/NAMES24/This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).