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What do we do next?
by Listening is the Revolution
Feeling paralyzed by the news cycle? This podcast cuts through the noise to give you practical steps for engaging in democracy, communicating across divides, and making real impact—no breaking news, just direction. whatdowedonext.substack.com
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Finally. a candidate that says what you are thinking, meet Mark Davis
I wanted to have Mark on because he is one of those people who makes you sit up a little straighter and pay attention. He is blunt, thoughtful, and completely unafraid to say the quiet part out loud — which, honestly, feels rare right now. What struck me most was how grounded he is for someone running such a bold race, and how clearly he connects the personal, the political, and the practical. I also think there is something genuinely disarming about him: he doesn’t sound like he is trying to perform “politician,” and that made me trust him faster than I usually do. A lot of political guests can feel polished to the point of distance, but Mark felt direct in a way that was almost startling. He was willing to be specific, which I always appreciate, and he kept bringing the conversation back to actual people and actual consequences instead of talking in slogans. I found myself thinking about our interview long after we wrapped, which is usually the sign that somebody said something real. Conversations like this matter because they remind us that democracy is still being shaped by people willing to show up and say something real. I also related to what he said about not wanting to lose his relationship with his parents, because my own father is not speaking to me right now, and that kind of ache makes those moments feel even more human.In this episode* Why Mark jumped in after Trump’s second term began* Why he chose to run as a No Party Affiliate instead of a Democrat* His Menards corporate background and what he saw inside boardrooms* Calling Trump’s tactics what he believes they are* The Canada/tourism economy angle and how tariffs hit Florida* Veterans’ mental health and mandatory care after deployment* The stigma around seeking help in the military, including pilots who fear losing their jobs* Waste in the defense budget* Accountability, single-payer healthcare, and lower prices* His pledge to forgo his congressional salary and healthcare* How to donate, and why small donations matter so muchWhat stayed with meThe part that really stayed with me was Mark talking about mental health in the military. There is still this devastating, deeply embedded stigma around asking for help, and that has to change. My father served, and growing up with a veteran shaped how I see these issues; it means that when Mark talks about the fear of asking for help, it is not abstract to me. The fact that a pilot can worry about losing a career for admitting they need support is not just backwards, it is dangerous. We talk so much about honoring service, but then we create a culture that punishes the very people who try to take care of themselves.And then there was the moment when he compared Trump’s tactics to historical fascism. I want to be careful with language like that, because it matters, but I also appreciated that Mark did not soften it into something more palatable. He was clear about what he sees and clear about why he believes we should say it plainly. I find that refreshing, honestly. We get so used to politicians sanding down everything until it is safe and unrecognizable, and I am tired of that.About MarkMark Davis is running for Florida’s 16th District as a No Party Affiliate. He’s an Air Force veteran, a former corporate operations executive at Menards, and a small business owner in Parrish, Florida. He lives there with his wife Sarah and their two children, and in less than a year, he has built more than 200,000 organic followers. His campaign has grown entirely without corporate money, and he refuses corporate PAC money. He has also pledged to forgo his congressional salary and healthcare if elected.Support MarkIf you want to learn more, volunteer, or donate, go to markdavisforcongress.com. Even small recurring donations can make a real difference.That part matters to me because campaigns like this are built one person at a time, not by giant checks and glossy consultants. If you believe we need more candidates who will say what they mean and keep their promises, this is exactly the kind of race worth supporting. Small donations really do add up here, and they help keep a genuinely grassroots campaign moving. And if you want more conversations like this, Subscribe on Substack. Sharing this episode helps more than you know. Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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She Went From Non-Voter to National Organizer And Built an App That Lets YOU Vote on Real Bills
What if you could vote on the same bills as your legislators — right now, for free? That’s exactly what the Digital Democracy Project has built, and this week Molly sits down with Sadie Holzmeyer, the woman helping take it national.Sadie grew up in rural Indiana as a self-described cynical non-voter. A college conversation about a local utility company sparked her interest in climate, which led her to policy, then politics, then the Sunrise Movement — and eventually to packing up her life and moving to Florida to organize on the ground for DDP. She rose from Field Director to Executive Director of the Florida Chapter, and now serves as National Organizing Director as DDP expands across the country in 2025.In this episode, Molly and Sadie break down:* What the Digital Democracy Project actually is (and how it works, step by step)* How voters get verified and cast advisory votes on 100+ pieces of pending federal legislation* Why verification matters — and why legislators can’t dismiss the data* Real bills on the platform right now: impeachment resolutions, the Save America Act, war powers, government surveillance, and more* How DDP generates scorecards comparing how legislators voted vs. how their constituents wanted them to vote* What it looks like when this scales — and why power in numbers is the whole point“It doesn’t require any permission from our government. We don’t have to wait for some law to be passed or for the next election. We can do this right now.”“We’ve embraced technology in every way except for the ways that impact our life the most. You can get a car or a pizza to show up without saying a word — but you can’t have your voice be heard. And they take your taxes real electronically.”Take Action Today:Go to digitaldemocracyproject.org → Watch the explainer video → Click the Vote tab → Enroll in the Voatz app → Get verified in ~2 minutes → Start voting on real legislation.Not registered? You can still browse every bill on the site — no account needed.Connect with Sadie & DDP:* 🌐 digitaldemocracyproject.org* 📧 [email protected]* 📱 @digital_democracy_project (Instagram, Threads)* 🐦 @DigitalDemoProj (X)* 🦋 @digitaldemoproject.bsky.social* ▶️ @digitaldemocracyproject (YouTube)Enjoying the show? Become a paid Substack member — every dollar goes toward paid advertising to get this podcast in front of more people. Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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What If We Could Fix Congress Without Changing a Single Law? America's Main Street Party with Tom Joseph
I know, I know — it sounds almost suspiciously optimistic. But that’s exactly what made this conversation so fascinating. This week I sat down with Tom Joseph, founder of America’s Main Street Party, and we got into a wild, surprisingly practical idea: what if the problem with Congress isn’t that we need a brand-new law, but that we need a better way to choose the people who run for office in the first place? Tom has spent his life building systems that work — from founding Bookminders in 1991, long before remote work was cool, to now applying that same systems-first brain to democracy itself. And honestly, it’s hard not to be a little stunned by how much sense it all makes.We talked about James Wilson, gerrymandering, approval voting, data integrity, the Super PAC loophole, and why the process for picking our representatives should probably be a lot better than the process for picking the next American Idol. If you’ve ever looked at Congress and thought, “Surely we can do better than this,” this episode is for you.What We Cover in This EpisodeWe start with Tom’s COVID-era promise and the unexpected path that led to the founding of America’s Main Street Party. From there, we dig into James Wilson — the Founding Father most people have never heard of, but probably should have — and his vision of a “free and equal” fountain of democracy. That idea becomes the backbone of Tom’s whole approach.Then we get into the mechanics: how the multi-round nominating contest works, why uncontested and gerrymandered districts are the smartest place to begin, and how the system uses tools like endorsement rounds, approval voting, and ranked choice voting to create a real contest instead of a backroom coronation. We also talk through the Super PAC loophole Tom is using for good, not evil, and why candidates might actually choose this path over the usual party machine.And because no conversation about modern democracy is complete without a little existential dread, we also talk about data integrity, virtual polling locations, and the very important distinction between a nominating system and an election system. The bigger vision here is a coalition-driven Congress — and maybe even a healthier political culture by 2032.Connect with Tom & America’s Main Street Party* Website: mainstreetparty.org* Research & hilosophy: WilsonsFountain.us* Petition: change.org (search America’s Main Street Party)* Donate, volunteer, or become a district organizer: mainstreetparty.org📣 Enjoyed this episode?Share it with someone who’s tired of partisan gridlock and ready for something smarter. If this conversation lit a fire in you, I’d love for you to like, subscribe, and leave a review — it really does help more people find the show. And as always: be excellent to each other. Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Closed Primaries, Open Rebellion and The Supreme Court with Chad Peace
If nearly 50% of Americans identify as independent voters, why does our government keep getting more partisan? The answer, according to Chad Peace, isn’t apathy — it’s architecture.Chad is the founder of IVC Media, a partner at Peace & Shea LLP, and the legal advisor behind the Independent Voter Project. He’s taken election reform cases all the way to the Supreme Court. And in this episode, he breaks down exactly how the system is rigged — and what we can actually do about it.Key Takeaways* Closed primaries are the root of the problem. In states with closed primaries and gerrymandered districts, a candidate can win with as little as 3% of the electorate. That’s not democracy — that’s a controlled outcome.* Independent voters aren’t wishy-washy — they’re the majority. Nearly 50% of Americans now identify as independent. That’s not indecision. That’s a rejection of being told that every position you hold must fit inside one of two boxes.* Political parties are private organizations — but they control public elections. The legal core of Chad’s work: if primaries are publicly funded and integral to our elections, can the state legally exclude voters who choose not to join a private party? He’s asked the Supreme Court three times.* The system benefits from your disengagement. When you tune out, the pool of voters shrinks — and it becomes even easier for well-funded, well-organized factions to control outcomes with a tiny slice of the electorate.* Competition is the antidote to money in politics. Chad’s counterintuitive argument: you don’t just need to get money out of politics — you need to make every dollar less effective by forcing candidates to compete for a broader, less predictable electorate.* What’s next: a Top Four Primary for California. The Independent Voter Project is preparing to introduce a top-four nonpartisan primary for California — modeled on Alaska’s system — that would advance four candidates to the general election regardless of party affiliation.Quotes Worth Sharing“We’re simply asking the courts a question on behalf of individual voters: if primaries are an integral stage of the election process, can you exclude me from that process — that we fund — because I chose not to join a private association?” — Chad Peace“The Republican and Democratic parties are like mom and dad saying, ‘kids, you can have whatever you want for dinner — as long as it’s from Burger King or McDonald’s.’” — Chad Peace“They’ve devised a system that is literally designed not to represent you.” — Chad Peace“Don’t get upset with the folks in the system — focus on the system you’re trying to change.” — Chad Peace“When we don’t vote, when we don’t get involved — not only are we not putting our voice in, but we’re strengthening the opposition.” — Molly Ruland“The system is like a gym membership where they actually want the people who sign up and never show up. You’re paying $29 a month and getting nothing — and they’re getting richer.” — Molly RulandResources & Links* 🌐 Independent Voter News: ivn.us* 🌐 Independent Voter Project: independentvoterproject.org* 🌐 IVC Media: ivcmedia.com* 📱 Follow Chad: @chadpeace | @ivn* 📱 Follow Molly: @mollyruland | @heartcastmedia* 📬 Subscribe to this Substack for new episodes every week🎧 Support the ShowWhat Do We Do Next? just hit 38,000 downloads — thank you! Every dollar from Substack memberships goes directly toward paid advertising to grow the show and get these conversations in front of more people.https://substack.com/@whatdowedonext Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Taking back the House with Vote Mama
This one hit different. I sat down with Liuba Grechen Shirley — founder and CEO of Vote Mama — and walked away energized by what happens when a mom decides the political system needs to change. We talked about broken structures, nursing babies on the campaign trail, and why moms in politics are still fighting for the basic support other candidates take for granted. It’s a conversation about courage, access, and the kind of civic engagement that can actually move the needle.Liuba’s path into politics began with organizing and ended with a run for Congress in 2018, after she saw firsthand how deeply the system disadvantages women running for office. What followed was not just a campaign, but a broader movement: Vote Mama, built to challenge the structural barriers that keep moms out of office and make political life less possible for working parents. The episode traces how campaign childcare funding became a live issue, why that ruling mattered, and how it helped open doors in states across the country.That bigger story is really about representation — and power. When more moms run, more families get seen, and more policy starts to reflect real life. The conversation also gets practical, from Moms Night Out gatherings to the push to take back the House, with clear ways listeners can support women running for office right now.What We Cover* How Liuba went from organizing an Indivisible group to running for Congress with two babies at home* Why the political system was built before women had the right to vote — and why that still matters* The historic campaign childcare funding ruling and how it became law in 40 states* How Vote Mama is helping moms in politics build real paths to power* Why Moms Night Out events are becoming a powerful tool for civic engagement* What listeners can do right now to help take back the HousePull Quotes“You’re already more qualified than most people in office. If you can read, if you can talk to members of your own community, and if you care — you can run for office.”— Liuba Grechen Shirley“Other countries have social safety nets. The US has women.”— Jessica Clarko, cited by Liuba Grechen Shirley“We are only a few months away from the most consequential election of our lifetimes. This is not a test.”— Liuba Grechen ShirleyAbout Vote MamaVote Mama is a movement and ecosystem built to make politics more accessible for moms. Vote Mama PAC elects Democratic moms up and down the ballot, Vote Mama Foundation leads research on mothers in politics, and Vote Mama Lobby pushes legislative advocacy for moms in office and on the trail. Together, they’re working to make it easier for women running for office to lead without having to choose between public service and caregiving.Take Action* Host a Moms Night Out — go to votemamapac.org or comment “ready” on @votemamalobby on Instagram to get the toolkit. A $17,500 match is active the week before Mother’s Day.* Donate to the Mama Fund — every dollar goes directly to endorsed mom candidates running right now.* Support endorsed moms — find Vote Mama-endorsed candidates and back them with your vote, time, or donation.* Follow @votemamalobby on Instagram for updates, candidate spotlights, and ways to plug in.ConnectWebsite: votemamapac.org · votemamafoundation.orgInstagram: @votemamalobby · @liubagrechenshirleyLinkedIn: Vote Mama Lobby · Vote Mama FoundationSubstack: Liuba Grechen Shirley on Substack#VoteMama #MomsInPolitics #WomenInPolitics #WhatDoWeDoNext #MollyRuland #LiubaGrechenShirley #MomsNightOut #SaveDemocracy #WomenRunning #CivicEngagement Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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What an Inclusive America Looks Like & DemocraShe's Vision
In this episode, we sit down with Sarah Jakle — Yale grad, social worker, political organizer, and Founder & Executive Director of DemocraShe — a nonpartisan national nonprofit paying high school girls $15/hour to become America’s next generation of elected leaders. What started as a question (”Why didn’t the Year of the Woman ever become the Decade of the Woman?”) became a movement rooted in neuroscience, evidence-based resilience tools, and radical belief in young women.This conversation goes deep — on brain science, imposter syndrome, joy as resistance, trauma titration, and why the most political thing you can do right now might be to pet a dog and call a friend.In This Episode* Why 1992’s “Year of the Woman” never became the flood of women leaders Sarah expected — and what she did about it* The neuroscience of why women don’t run for office (hint: it’s not ambition, it’s resiliency zones)* DemocraShe’s signature tools: the Inner Critic vs. the Inner Best Friend, grounding, savoring the good* Why high school is the last time girls and boys believe equally in their ability to lead — and why that’s the exact moment to intervene* How to use “growth steps” to take action without flooding your nervous system* Joy as strategy, not luxury — why feeling happy is an act of resistance* Trauma titration: how to stay engaged without burning out* DemocraShe’s explosive growth: 24 girls in 2022 → 915 in 2025, with 7x more applicants than spots* How to support DemocraShe: donate, mentor, refer a high school girl, or connect them with foundations“You should feel no shame for feeling flooded and exhausted. That is exactly how the human body was designed to respond to trauma. However, lovely humans have spent time researching the best tools to help brains overcome adversity — and even thrive.”— Sarah Jakle“Women deserve to be happy while they lead. It is not an either/or.”— Sarah JakleBrain Hacks You Can Use Today* Meet Your Inner Best Friend — Before a big moment, ask: “What would my inner best friend say?” (Not your inner critic — she’s not as helpful as she thinks she is.)* Ground Yourself — Physical contact with a surface pulls you from your amygdala back to your prefrontal cortex. Try it right now.* Savor the Good — Consciously noticing joy rewires your brain to find more of it. It’s not toxic positivity — it’s neuroscience.* Take a Growth Step — Not the safe step. Not the overwhelm step. The one that’s just slightly outside your comfort zone, in line with your values.* Titrate Into Hard Things — Touch something difficult, then return to something neutral or positive. That’s how you stay in the fight long-term.About Sarah JakleSarah Jakle is the Founder & Executive Director of DemocraShe. She’s a Yale graduate (Phi Beta Kappa), holds a Master’s in Social Work from USC and a Master’s in Public Policy from UCLA. She’s served as Get Out The Vote Director for CA NOW, National Outreach Director for Field Team 6, and is a Movement Builder Fellow with How Women Lead and an Obama Organizing for Action Fellow.How to Support DemocraShe* 💸 $25/month sponsors a girl through a 10-week program* 💸 $50/month sponsors a peer leader* 💸 $100/month sponsors a girl through the full program ($1,200 total)* 🙋 Mentor a high school girl directly through the program* 📣 Refer a high school girl who needs to meet her Inner Best Friend* 🌐 Free self-directed program available at Democrashe.org — share it!* 🤝 Know a foundation? Reach out to Sarah directly through the websiteLinks* 🌐 Website: Democrashe.org* 💼 LinkedIn: Sarah Jakle* 🎙️ Subscribe & share this episode with a high school girl in your lifeWouldn’t it be amazing to have these tools at 15 instead of 50? Yeah. We think so too. Share this one. It matters. Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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From Activism to Art: How Rainbow Fences Are Uniting Communities in Key West
Welcome back to “What Do We Do Next?” on today’s episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Anne Brodsky—better known as the Fence Fairy—joining us all the way from Key West. Anne is an unwavering advocate, artist, and community builder whose activism and rainbow fences have sparked hope and resilience throughout her community and far beyond. With decades of experience—from child welfare to fighting for equality—Anne shares her personal journey, the powerful women who inspired her, and her mission to spread joy, unity, and resistance through art, one rainbow fence at a time.In our conversation, Anne and I dig into her stories of perseverance, the importance of community action, standing strong in the face of adversity, and how even a simple rainbow fence can become a beacon of hope. We also discuss practical ways each of us can get involved. If you’re searching for inspiration and a reminder that change truly begins with every one of us, you won’t want to miss this episode.Chapters00:00 - Introduction00:47 - Family influence and early activism04:17 - Making and sharing mini fences08:53 - Spreading love with repurposed paint14:18 - Standing against division and hate17:49 - One person can make impact21:11 - The importance of women and community22:58 - Neighborhood disputes over painted fences26:43 - Opposition to rainbow fences30:06 - Discussing women challenging power35:22 - Giving back to your community37:06 - Running for DNC position41:06 - Processing grief and accountability43:49 - Brainstorming community-driven collaboration49:15 - Offering campaign support services49:51 - OutroKey TakeawaysThe Power of OneService and SolidarityAdversity to ActionLegacy of MatriarchsCommunity is Our CompassAllyship in ActionKeep Passing the BatonFocus ForwardThere is Always HopeQuotes“Your voice matters, your vote matters, your spirit is important, and I value you. We are not alone—there is hope out there, and action is what replenishes us.” - Anne Brodsky“One person really can make such a huge difference in the world—all it takes is that little bit of drive to want to do that.” - Molly RulandAnne Brodsky:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/anne.brodsky.58 Produced by Heartcast MediaWill you give us a 5 star review, if we deserve it of course? Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Youth, Uprisings, and Equality: Sarvnaz Chitsaz on Transforming Iran’s Political Landscape
In this episode of “What Do We Do Next?” I sat down with Sarvnaz Chitsaz, the chair of the Women’s Committee of the National Council of Resistance of Iran. Sarvnaz Chitsaz shares her inspiring journey—having joined the movement as a university student and now leading the women’s resistance—offering a firsthand look into Iran’s ongoing fight for democracy and women’s rights.Our conversation dives into the evolution of the resistance, the vital role women play in leadership, and how a new generation is rising up for change both inside and outside Iran. Sarvnaz Chitsaz reflects on decades of struggle against misogyny and fundamentalism, the resilience of Iranian youth, and the universal need for purpose during uncertain times. We also unpack the challenges of combating misinformation, the power of international solidarity, and the hope we find from witnessing young women step into leadership.Join me for an episode full of candid stories, insight, and encouragement on how we can all take part in building a better world—no matter where we’re starting from.Chapters00:00 - Introduction00:10 - Iranian Women’s Struggles and Activism10:08 - “Women’s Resilience and Reflection”11:34 - Purpose Ignites Women’s Unity16:39 - “Politics and Shared Burdens”18:25 - “Media, Iran, and Truth Challenges”22:58 - “Blocked by Editorial Politics”24:30 - Iran’s Youth Sparks Protest Wave30:09 - “Women Empowering Women Globally”31:49 - OutroKey TakeawaysA Lifetime of ResistanceThe Power of PurposeWomen Leading ChangeYouth Awakening in IranFacing Hardships with CourageThe Importance of True InformationGlobal Solidarity and InspirationReal Democracy Requires Women’s LeadershipQuotes“I would rather have something I believe in and fight for it than feel nothing. You have to find something that gives you purpose—and go out fighting.”- Molly Ruland“It’s very important to find that thing that gives you an energy to go on. If you believe in it, then you go for it and fight for it—because this is life. You are just fighting every moment of your life.”- Sarvnaz ChitsazGuest:Sarvnaz Chitsaz: Chair of the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) Women’s CommitteeProduced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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You Don’t Have to Be the Main Character to Make a Difference with Aceil Haddad
Welcome back to What Do We Do Next? In this episode, I sit down with Aceil Haddad, whose career at the intersection of communications, public policy, and social change truly inspires me. Over the past decade, Aceil Haddad has been the driving force behind campaigns that shape public debate and help leaders communicate complex ideas with clarity and conviction—most notably through her agency, MAP PR, and her impactful work with advocacy groups like Pregnant Then Screwed.During the pandemic, Aceil Haddad brought together more than 250 volunteers to support over 120 charities at a critical time, launching campaigns like But Not Maternity that made a real difference. In our conversation, we dig into what fuels her dedication to service, why genuine political participation matters now more than ever, and the importance of women’s voices in fighting disinformation and pushing for real societal change.We talk candidly about the lessons learned from grassroots activism, the realities of power and representation, and how each of us can discover our own way to make an impact. Whether you’re feeling overwhelmed or just wondering how you can do more, this episode is full of honest insights and practical inspiration for anyone asking: “What do we do next?”Key TakeawaysStep Into Your Power—Everyone Has a Role to PlayPolitics Isn’t Just for PoliticiansWomen’s Voices Matter—Don’t Step BackSustainable Impact Starts with Self-CareFind Your ‘North Star’ and Own Your JourneyYou Don’t Have to Be the Main Character to Make a DifferenceUse Your Voice, Even When It Feels RiskyChapters00:00 - Introduction00:10 - “Mobilizing Volunteers for Change”05:37 - Navigating Politics and Authenticity09:28 - Change Takes Time12:52 - “Understanding Issues and Power”14:32 - Politics and Business: Shared Lessons19:58 - “Impact Without Being Center Stage”21:33 - Community Service, Quiet Impact24:58 - “Women Must Be Heard”27:14 - “Staying Visible Matters Most”30:48 - Finding Your North Star35:37 - What Do We Do Next?36:08 - OutroQuotesMolly Ruland:“When you know who you are, you don’t get washed around in the stream. It’s not about being the main character—it’s about showing up for your values, speaking the truth, and supporting the people and causes that matter to you.”Aceil Haddad:“Everyone has a skill that’s valuable—no matter how small you think it is. Change doesn’t happen overnight, but through collective action and by having the courage to show up and use your voice, especially when the world would rather you stay silent.”Connect with Aceil Haddadhttp://www.matt-pr.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aceil/Call To Action:Stand for election - Centenary ActionSupport and invest in womenProduced by Heartcast MediaWill you give us a 5 star review, if we deserve it of course? Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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The Impact of Representation: Latina Voices, Money, and Community Advancement with Christina Olivarez
Welcome back to What Do We Do Next? In this episode, I’m joined by Cristina Giovanna Olivares—an award-winning visibility coach, leadership advisor, and TEDx speaker who helps high-achieving Latinas and women of color step into their power. As the founder of Social Butterfly Gal and Hustle and Socialize, Cristina shares her journey from being inspired by her trailblazing grandmother to becoming a trusted voice in Latina leadership.We talk about unapologetic visibility, the cultural and economic power of Latinas, and why women—especially women of color—must claim their voices in leadership. Cristina also shares insights on overcoming overwhelm, setting boundaries with social media, building supportive communities, and embracing authentic self-expression.It’s an honest and inspiring conversation filled with wisdom, practical insights, and a reminder that being visible, powerful, and joyful is the new standard.Key TakeawaysAncestral Roots & IdentityLatinas as Natural LeadersNervous System Regulation & OverwhelmEconomic Power of LatinasUnapologetic Visibility & BrandingRedefining ProfessionalismChapters00:00 - Introduction00:10 - “Christina: Empowering Women Leaders”03:57 - Latina Leadership and Visibility Journey09:58 - Social Media Overload Solutions12:49 - Too Much to Handle Responsibly16:46 - Content, Fear, Money, and Influence19:55 - Breaking Barriers, Building Wealth22:26 - Empowering Ambitious Founders’ Growth25:37 - “Authenticity Over Conformity”28:01 - “Defying Stereotypes, Owning Success”31:37 - “Empowering Women, Supporting Change”Quotes“Be unapologetically visible at all times. Take initiative, stay committed to yourself, and never be afraid to claim your power”- Cristina Giovanna Olivares“This is not the time to be meek and mild. Be louder, bolder, and braver than ever before. Redefine what it means to show up in the world.”- Molly RulandConnect with Christina and work with her in coachingWebsite:https://www.thesocialbutterflygal.net/Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/TheSocialButterflyGalThreads: Https://www.threads.com/thesocialbutterflygalLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christina-jovanna-olivarez-14081226/Produced by Heartcast Media: Will you give us a 5 star review, if we deserve it of course? Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Activism, Courage, and Women's Rights: Prof. Dr. Anabel Ternès von Hattburg
A lot of us are trying to stay informed without getting swallowed by the news cycle, and still figure out what to do with what we’re feeling. I’m one of them.In this episode, I speak with Anabel Ternès von Hattburg—psychologist, futurist, professor, author, and host of the radio show We are Power—to talk about what it looks like to keep showing up when the problems feel bigger than any one person. Anna’s work has taken her from building a platform for people’s lived experience to speaking out about women’s movements worldwide, with a clear focus on the courage of Iranian women fighting for freedom and democracy.What stayed with me most is her insistence that stories matter more than slogans. We talk about what we remember, what moves us, and what actually helps when I’m trying to communicate with friends and family without shutting down or turning away. We end with concrete guidance I can use—and you can use—if you want to get informed, use your voice with purpose, and take a first step that isn’t performative and isn’t alone.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction00:10 - “Powerful Stories, Impactful Living”04:12 - Hope Through Memories08:46 - “Advocacy Failure for Afghan Women”12:18 - “Walk, Collaborate, Write Life”13:12 - OutroQuotes:Molly Ruland:“Awakening to truth can be painful, but it’s in this discomfort that we rediscover our power—and realize we are not alone in our desire for change.”Anabel Ternès von Hattburg:“Never stop doing the things you do. Never stop talking about the things you do. Involve, inspire, and engage as many people as you can in the movement you started.”Key Takeaways:The Power of StorytellingAmplifying Women’s VoicesActive AllyshipWalking the TalkBravery as a Daily PracticeCommunity Over CompetitionHope as a Driving ForceProduced by Heartcast Media:http://www.heartcastmedia.com Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Freedom, Equality, and Women's Rights In Iran and Globally with Linda Chavez
Some conversations don’t stay on the stage. They follow you back into daily life—into the group chat, the family dinner, the quiet moment when you decide whether to speak up or let something slide.In this episode of What Do We Do Next?, I sit down with Linda Chavez to talk about what it takes to hold a line when the pressure is real. We trace her long involvement with the Iranian opposition movement, including work connected to the PMOA and MEK, and her role at the United Nations pushing resolutions against the Iranian regime for human rights abuses and the treatment of women.But the heart of this episode is bigger than any one organization. It’s about staying rooted in constitutional democracy, equal opportunity, and basic civil rights when misinformation spreads fast and public opinion shifts. We talk about the personal cost of resistance, the way sacrifice changes people, and why community matters when the work is long.If you’ve been feeling overwhelmed, unsure what to say, or tired of watching principles get traded for convenience, this conversation offers a framework for thinking clearly—and a reminder of the question we keep coming back to: what do we do next, when staying silent starts to feel like a choice?Chapters:00:00 - Introduction00:10 - Freedom, Equality, and Women’s Rights04:11 - Support for Iranian Freedom Movement08:06 - “Consistency and Principles Over Time”12:11 - “Staying Principled Over Popularity”15:04 - “Believe in Service, Not Self”17:31 - Universal Desire for Freedom19:15 - “Free Market Opportunities Endorsed”22:37 - “Media Silos and Algorithm Impact”27:44 - Legacy, Sacrifice, and Grief28:42 - “Change, Women, and Final Thoughts”30:00 - OutroQuotes:Linda Chavez:“Serving others and being devoted to ideals isn’t just the key to a rich life—it’s how we build hope, freedom, and a future worth fighting for.”Molly Ruland:“When I feel doubt or worry about what I might lose by speaking out, I remember those who’ve sacrificed so much—and think, if they can do it, so can I.”Key Takeaways:Staying True to PrinciplesSacrifice for a Greater CauseServing Others Over Serving SelfThe Power of Community and DialogueHope for the FutureUniversal AspirationsKeep Hope AliveProduced by Heartcast Media:http://www.heartcastmedia.com Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Women’s Rights and Iran Resistance: Facts Over Noise with Donna Hughes
Donna Hughes has spent her career in women’s rights, and nearly three decades showing up for the Iranian resistance movement. She tells the story of hearing Maryam Rajavi speak in 1996 and realizing the ideas weren’t abstract—they were already being practiced, with women leading. That moment changed what she paid attention to, and why she kept coming back.We talk about what consistency looks like over 30 years, the role men play in the movement, and why shared participation matters. We also name what so many women are facing right now in the U.S.: fragmentation, division, and relationships where politics becomes off-limits.Donna speaks candidly about cancel culture, the cost of holding your ground, and how she tries to verify information in a landscape built to confuse people. I came into this wanting direction. I left with a clearer sense of what continuing actually requires.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction00:10 - “Man’s Story of Women Executed”06:35 - Empowering Women Through Difficult Times10:13 - “Trusting Feelings and Ethics”13:11 - Battling Disinformation with Fact-Checking15:12 - Recommended Books on Resistance17:20 - OutroQuotes:Donna Hughes:“Stay true to your sense of right and wrong, keep learning, and trust the small insights—they can change everything.”Molly Ruland:“The power of one person comes from simply showing up, year after year, and contributing with heart.”Key Takeaways:The Power of a Single EncounterTransformation Through InspirationConsistency and Community MatterMen as AlliesStaying the Course in a Divided WorldOvercoming Disinformation With FactsLift Each Other UpProduced by Heartcast Media:http://www.heartcastmedia.comhttps://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/iran-resistance/prof-donna-hughes-women-led-resistance-units-are-driving-irans-next-phase-of-defiance/ Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Women’s Rights and Solidarity in Iran: What the World Must Do Next with Izabela Konopacka
A single conversation can spark a movement—or remind us why we need one. On “What Do We Do Next?” I sat down with Izabela Konopacka, who found herself drawn from her work in Poland to a global effort for democracy and women’s rights. As the former President of the Fédération des Barreaux d’Europe and the current President of the FBE Intellectual Property Law Commission she bring years of knowledge and experience to the table. Izabela’s story is about crossing borders—literal and personal—to support women in Iran who risk everything for a basic sense of dignity. With the perspective of leading nearly a million lawyers, she explains what first pushed her to act, and why standing together matters more than ever when the odds feel stacked.As we talk, the realities of political pressure, the limits of government response, and the quiet strength that builds in community come into focus. The question isn’t just what’s happening elsewhere—it’s what responsibility we all share, and how we move from watching to doing.This episode traces the steps between empathy and action, and asks each of us to consider: What do we do next?Chapters:00:00 - Introduction00:04 - “Decisive Action for Free Iran”05:11 - “United Women for Equality”07:21 - Choosing Courage Over Comfort10:23 - Gratitude and Appreciation Shared10:34 - OutroQuotes:Molly Ruland:“For me, the greatest inspiration is just seeing what these women have gone through and how inspiring they are. They didn’t have a choice. So to me, it feels like I have to make the choice to join them.”Izabela Konopacka:“Alone we can do nothing, but together we must unite, stay strong, and form a community. Only when we support each other can we clearly state our demands for equality.”Key Takeaways:Unity and Community are EssentialThe Role of Advocacy in Global ChangeCourage in the Face of CriticismThe Importance of Support NetworksInspiration from Iranian WomenA Universal Message: Stay Confident and UnitedProduced by Heartcast Media:http://www.heartcastmedia.com Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Don't Beg For Mercy, Demand Freedom : Free Iran
I was invited to Paris for the International Women’s Day conference — “Women’s Leadership: An Imperative for a Free Iran and Democratic Republic” — and honestly, I didn’t really know what to expect. I went because I needed it. I needed to fill my cup with strong women who had a voice and were using it and weren’t afraid. What I came back with shook me to my core. This episode is everything I learned, everything I felt, and everything I think you need to hear about Iran, the resistance, and why this is not just an Iran problem — it’s a global gender equality problem, and it affects every single one of us.* The Iranian Resistance is Led by a Woman Maryam Rajavi has led the democratic resistance movement for decades, chosen by Iranians across factions through a democratic vote.* The Regime’s Final Days The Iranian regime is on its last legs, publicly executing people — many under 25 — as it grows increasingly desperate.* The Third Option Beyond intervention (U.S./Israel bombing) and appeasement (paying the regime), the resistance offers a third path: letting Iranians topple the regime themselves for a free, secular, democratic society.* Maryam Rajavi’s 10-Point Plan A structured transition plan: when the regime falls, a 6-month temporary government takes over, followed by a fair, secular, democratic election — even if that means Rajavi herself doesn’t win. https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/maryam-rajavis-ten-point-plan-for-future-iran/* Gender Equality is a Global Issue What’s happening in Iran is not just an Iran problem — it’s a global gender inequality problem that affects everyone.* Women Inspire Women Female leadership is imperative for a democratic future; women inspire and lead other women, and that’s when change is possible.* 00:00:00 - Opening: Being Born a Woman is an Act of Resistance I open with a powerful quote from the conference and set the stage for my Paris trip.* 00:00:49 - Why Iran Matters to Everyone I explain why I went to Paris and how Iran’s struggle connects to global gender inequality.* 00:01:27 - 47 Years of the Regime A breakdown of the Iranian regime’s brutal history — over a million killed, widespread oppression, and eerie similarities to other global situations.* 00:02:16 - Who is Maryam Rajavi? A personal and powerful description of Maryam Rajavi — her leadership, warmth, and decades of dedication to the resistance.* 00:03:11 - The Shah, the Regime, and What’s Happening Now Historical context: from the Shah to the regime takeover, and why the Shah’s son is now trying to reclaim power through manipulated narratives.* 00:04:56 - The Three Options: Intervention, Appeasement, or the Third Way I break down the geopolitical choices and make the case for supporting the resistance’s path to self-determination.* 00:06:22 - The Paris Conference: 37 Women Around the Table I describe the roundtable event, listing the extraordinary global leaders present — ministers, prime ministers, ambassadors, and professors.* 00:07:42 - Quotes That Shook Me to the Core Powerful quotes from the conference: “Women are not property.” “Freedom is never given.” “Fight beyond borders.” “Equality without exception.”* 00:10:00 - Maryam Rajavi’s 10-Point Plan Explained A clear breakdown of the transition plan: temporary government, 6-month timeline, and a commitment to democratic elections regardless of outcome.* 00:11:38 - The Sacrifice of the Resistance Personal stories of women who joined the resistance at 19, knowing it could mean death — and what that level of commitment means.* 00:12:16 - Female Leadership is Imperative Why women must lead this movement and every movement — and how women inspire other women to create change.* 00:13:43 - The Third Option & Spreading the Right Information A call to action: learn the truth, share it, and support the resistance’s right to self-determination without outside interference.* 00:16:15 - Closing: Channel Their Courage I wrap up with a call to channel the courage of these women in our own lives, share the podcast’s 22,000 download milestone, and thank Zahra, Zohlal, and Maryam Rajavi.KEY STATISTICS* • 47 Years — The Iranian regime has been in control of Iran for 47 years, causing widespread suffering and oppression.* • 1M+ People Killed — Over a million people have been killed under the regime’s rule.* • 37 Women Leaders — Women from around the world sat at the roundtable in Paris, including ministers, prime ministers, and ambassadors.* • 30 Years of Support — Professor Donna Hughes has been attending the resistance conference and supporting Maryam Rajavi for 30 years.* • 6 Months — The timeframe for the resistance’s temporary government before holding a free, secular, democratic election.What the Resistance Wants* A free, secular, and democratic Iran* Iranians toppling the regime themselves* A 6-month temporary government based on Rajavi’s 10-point plan* A fair democratic election open to all* Global support through spreading accurate information* Gender equality as a universal human rightWhat the Resistance Rejects* U.S. or Israeli military intervention/bombing* Appeasement of the regime with money or deals* The Shah’s son reclaiming power* Manipulated narratives and propaganda* Outside forces deciding Iran’s future* Silence and inaction from the global communityCALL TO ACTION* Learn About the Iranian Resistance Research Maryam Rajavi, the NCRI, and the 10-point plan so you can speak intelligently about Iran’s situation.* Spread Accurate Information Counter misinformation about the Shah’s son and the regime by sharing what the resistance actually stands for.* Contact Your Lawmakers Speak to your representatives about supporting the third option — not intervention, not appeasement, but backing the resistance’s path to self-determination.* Stand with Iranian Women Amplify the voices of women in the resistance on social media and in your communities.* Listen to the Upcoming Interviews I recorded 5 interviews at the Paris conference (including one with Linda Chavez) — tune in as they are released.* Like, Share & Subscribe Help grow the podcast (now at 22,000 downloads!) so more people can hear this message.RESOURCES & LINKSOfficial Organizations/Websites* National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI)* Maryam Rajavi Official Website* Mojahedin-e Khalq (MEK)* European Lawyers Foundation* University of Rhode Island Gender & Women’s Studies* International Women’s Day Conference (Paris)Follow on Social Media* Maryam Rajavi (LinkedIn)* Maryam Rajavi (Instagram)* Maryam Rajavi (X/Twitter)* NCRI Women’s Committee (X/Twitter)* Maryam Rajavi (Instagram)* #FreeIran* #WomanLifeFreedom* #IranianResistanceTopics to Research* Maryam Rajavi’s 10-Point Plan for a Democratic Iran* The National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI)* History of the Iranian Regime (1979–present)* Gender apartheid in Iran“We can and we must.”The women at this conference — ministers, prime ministers, professors, and resistance fighters — have spent years, even decades, standing tall for Iranian women at great personal and professional cost. Their courage is a call to action for all of us. If they can risk their reputations, careers, and lives, we can at least speak up, share the truth, and support the resistance.Support the Resistance Encourage sharing, engagement, or further action based on the episode.We are all Iranian. We are all one.Share This Episode | Subscribe to Podcast | Contact for Guest InfoThank you for tuning in. Share this information widely. Research the truth. We are all Iranian. We are all one. Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Why this 29-year-old social worker is running for Congress
I need to tell you about a conversation that made me absolutely furious—and then gave me hope.Today, I sat down with Paige Loud, a 29-year-old social worker running for Congress in Maine's District 2. She's spent years working with adults and children with intellectual disabilities, and she's watching the system she knows intimately get weaponized for political gain.The story she told me about Maine's Medicaid "scandal" isn't what you've heard on the news. And it matters—because what's happening in Maine is a blueprint for what's coming everywhere else.Key Takeaways:The Maine Medicaid Audit Scandal Brief description of what's covered in Topic 1.Systemic Documentation Failures How overworked care providers are set up to fail by impossible documentation requirements that don't reflect the reality of providing careThe Reinstitutionalization Agenda Why attacks on community-based services may be part of a larger effort to return people with disabilities to institutional settingsBarriers to Running for Office The shocking costs of entering politics, including $6,000 just to access voter data through the Democratic PartyWhy Social Workers Matter in Congress How lived experience working with vulnerable populations creates better policy than talking points and political theory00:00:00 - Introduction & Welcome I introduce Paige Loud, social worker and Congressional candidate00:03:00 - The Maine Medicaid Scandal Explained Breaking down what the audit actually found versus the fraud narrative00:08:33 - Political Retribution in Maine How the Trump administration has targeted Maine repeatedly00:10:34 - The Reinstitutionalization Agenda Why RFK Jr. and others want to move away from community-based care00:12:17 - The Olmstead Act & Deinstitutionalization History of moving people with disabilities out of institutions00:15:07 - The Documentation Trap Why impossible paperwork requirements doom overworked care providers00:21:20 - Who's Actually Being Served? The question no one is asking about the audit00:27:03 - The $6,000 Barrier to Democracy How the Democratic Party charges candidates for voter access00:33:00 - Why Age & Experience Matter Paige responds to critics questioning her qualifications00:45:06 - Finding Joy in the Fight Final thoughts on staying positive while fighting for change Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Earning the Right to be Heard with Shaka Mitchell
This episode started with a simple question and turned into something much bigger: how do we actually stay connected to each other when everything around us feels fractured?I’ve been thinking a lot about how hard it has become to talk to people we love—family, friends, coworkers—without politics, resentment, or fear blowing the whole thing up. This conversation sits right in that tension. It’s about education, yes, but more than that, it’s about listening, belonging, and finding ways back to one another when the ground feels unstable.We talk about music as a tool for connection—not as a metaphor, but as a real, practical way to lower defenses and remind ourselves that there’s a human being sitting across from us. We get into what it looks like to use something as simple as a song to open the door to harder conversations, especially in moments where we usually shut down or shut each other out. We also talk honestly about how broken systems don’t fix themselves, and why waiting for institutions to save us is not a plan.What I took away from this episode is a reminder that listening is not passive. It’s work. It’s uncomfortable. And right now, it might be one of the most important skills we have. If you’re feeling exhausted by the news cycle, unsure how to talk to people in your life, or wondering how to show up without losing yourself, this conversation offers a grounded place to start.At the heart of it, this episode is asking the same question we always come back to: when things feel this divided, and this personal, what do we do next? Not in theory—but in our homes, our communities, and our everyday lives.I hope you’ll listen with an open mind, maybe even with a song in mind, and see what comes up for you.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction00:18 - “Reflection on Education System”06:26 - “Connecting Through Music in Isolation”07:50 - Songs as Stories Connecting Lives11:57 - “Strangers United by Music”16:13 - “Rebuilding Connections Through Community”17:45 - “Using Music to Build Connection”21:45 - “On-Demand Culture and Impatience”23:20 - “The Importance of Listening”28:09 - “Songs and Emotions Connection”31:09 - Resentment and Rules of Engagement33:32 - “Expressing Identity Through Songs”38:40 - “Family Conversations and Legacy”40:40 - “Respecting Shaka’s Inspiring Efforts”42:07 - OutroQuotes:“Music builds bridges. When we listen to each other’s stories, we find the common ground where connection begins.”- Shaka Mitchell“Listening is the revolution. When we slow down and truly hear one another, we move past labels and remember our shared humanity.”- MollyKey Takeaways:Music as a BridgeHumanizing ConversationsListening Is RadicalPractical Tools for UnityHealing Starts at HomeEveryone Wants to BelongTake the First StepConnect with Shaka MitchellWebsite: HOME | Come TogetherYouTube - Come Together Music ProjectiTunes -Come Together PodcastSpotify -The Come Together PodcastInstagram - The Come Together Music Project (@cometogethermusicproject) • Instagram profileFacebook -Come Together Music Project | Nashville TNGive a Little Bit (make a tax-deductible contribution):Help us Find the Hidden Harmonies!Produced by Heartcast MediaHeartcast Media : Branded Podcast Production Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Deciding to Win? Frank Spring on Democratic Strategy, Populism, and What Comes Next
Frank Spring from Altum Insight joins Molly to dissect the controversial “Deciding to Win” report from Welcome PAC and what it reveals about the Democratic Party’s identity crisis. With deep expertise in narrative research and voter behavior, Frank challenges the report’s centrist conclusions and explores whether the party has gone “too far left” or if the real problem lies elsewhere. This conversation digs into material politics, the wealthy elite as villains, populist candidates, and what Americans actually want from their political leaders.KEY TOPICS:* The “Deciding to Win” Report - Analysis of Welcome PAC’s diagnosis that Democrats need to become more moderate and abandon “unpopular” positions.* The Vending Machine Theory of Voters - Why the consultant class fundamentally misunderstands how people form political identities and make voting decisions.* Material Politics vs. Identity Politics - The Democratic Party’s struggle to define its relationship with big money, capital, and corporate power.* The Wealthy Elite as Villains - How Americans are organically creating a new archetype of the “wealthy elite” as a problem, from Epstein to billionaires.* Eric Platner and Populism - The promise and problems of populist candidates, including the recent controversy.* What Comes Next - Practical steps including mutual aid, the No Kings protests, and the possibility of a general strike.TIMESTAMPED CHAPTERS:* 00:00:00 - Introduction - Molly introduces Frank Spring and the “Deciding to Win” report that opens with a Nancy Pelosi quote.* 00:02:15 - What is Welcome PAC? - Frank explains the organization behind the report and their centrist thesis.* 00:05:30 - The Strawman Problem - How the report misrepresents Democratic positions like “abolishing the police” that aren’t actual party platforms.* 00:12:45 - What Altum Does - Frank describes their narrative-focused research methodology and qualitative approach.* 00:15:20 - The Diversity Problem That Isn’t - Research findings show people don’t know what Democrats stand for beyond diversity and inclusivity.* 00:22:10 - The Trans Agenda Myth - Why even Republicans found the anti-trans campaign “weird” and mean-spirited.* 00:28:40 - Big Money and Capital - The Democratic Party’s unresolved relationship with big tech, big pharma, and corporate power.* 00:35:15 - The Vending Machine Theory - Frank’s critique of how consultants think voters work versus how they actually make decisions.* 00:42:30 - Crime Politics and Reality - Why Americans don’t want “hang ‘em and flog ‘em” politics despite concerns about crime.* 00:51:20 - Eric Platner Discussion - The promise of naming billionaires as villains and the Nazi tattoo controversy.* 01:05:45 - Racism and American Politics - How Americans overestimate racism in others and the complexity of voter behavior.* 01:15:30 - Prison Labor and the Carceral State - Why criminal justice reform referendums succeed even in conservative states.* 01:22:10 - What Do We Do Next? - Frank’s call to action: give to food banks, show up to protests, take care of each other.* 01:28:40 - The General Strike Question - Discussion of labor organizing, collective action, and rebuilding atrophied muscles.* 01:35:15 - Closing Thoughts - The power of the American people and the direction of travel.GUEST INFORMATION:* Frank Spring - Altum Insight - Narrative Strategist and Political Analyst. Brief bio highlighting their expertise and connection to the topic: Specializes in behavioral science and cognitive neuroscience of storytelling. Conducts deep qualitative research on political identity formation.* LinkedIn Profile Link* X (Twitter) Profile Link* Altum Insight WebsiteEPISODE SIGNIFICANCE:This episode matters because it cuts through the noise of conventional political wisdom to examine how voters actually think and what the Democratic Party’s real problems are. At a moment when:“We are still not going to be saved by someone else. The most powerful thing we can do is go to the next No Kings protest, take care of each other, and turn up in numbers they can’t ignore.”— Frank Spring* The Democratic Party is having its perennial “too far left vs. too centrist” debate. Explanation of why this reason is significant.* Americans are facing unprecedented attacks on social programs and democratic norms. Explanation of why this reason is significant.* Grassroots movements like No Kings are showing the power of collective action. Explanation of why this reason is significant.* The relationship between citizens and the wealthy elite is fundamentally shifting. Explanation of why this reason is significant.Frank’s research-backed insights reveal that the problem isn’t that Democrats have gone too far left on policy—it’s that the party hasn’t figured out its relationship to capital and power. The “vending machine theory” he describes explains why so much political consulting fails: it assumes people make rational policy-based decisions when they actually form complex identities based on stories, trust, and whether they believe a candidate understands their lives.CALL TO ACTION:* Give to Your Local Food Bank - Give so much it hurts. Postpone something you were looking forward to and donate that money instead.* Show Up to No Kings Protests - The next wave of protests is coming. Your presence matters and sends a message to leadership.* Take Care of Each Other - Build mutual aid networks in your community. We have to demonstrate we can support each other.* Prepare for Collective Action - Start thinking about what a general strike would mean and how you could participate.* Stop Waiting for a Savior - No single candidate will fix this. The power lies in collective action and sustained pressure.* Challenge the Vending Machine Theory - When you hear political consultants talk about “the issues voters care about,” remember that’s not how people actually make decisions.RESOURCES & LINKS:Official Organizations/Websites* Altum Insight* Welcome PAC* No Kings Movement* Local Food BanksFollow on Social Media* Frank Spring (LinkedIn)* Frank Spring (X/Twitter)* Molly (Substack)* #NoKings* #GeneralStrike* #MutualAidTopics to Research* The “Deciding to Win” report from Welcome PAC* Vending machine theory of voters* Eric Platner Maine Senate campaign* No Kings protest movement* General strike organizing* Prison labor abolition referendums* Crime statistics vs. perception in American cities* Democratic Party platform historyCLOSING MESSAGE:The Power Is With the PeopleThis conversation reveals a fundamental truth: Americans are not waiting for permission to build the country they want to live in. From the unprecedented No Kings protests to the organic emergence of the “wealthy elite” as villains in the American story, people are writing a new narrative about power, democracy, and who this country serves.The Democratic Party’s identity crisis isn’t about being too far left or too centrist on policy—it’s about having the courage to clearly state whose side they’re on. Are they with big money and corporate power, or are they with the people struggling under the weight of precarity, rising costs, and a system rigged against them?We don’t need another savior. We need each other.Share this episode with someone who’s trying to make sense of where we go from here. Subscribe to support independent political analysis that challenges conventional wisdom. And most importantly: give to your food bank, show up when it matters, and take care of each other.Thank you for listening. The work continues. The power is ours if we choose to use it together. Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Iran Uprising : Human Rights, Revolution & the Fight for Democracy
Welcome to What Do We Do Next? featuring Iranian human rights activist Zolal Habibi. This conversation explores the current uprising in Iran, the regime’s brutal crackdown, and the path toward a free, secular, and democratic Iran.With over 3,000 verified deaths, 50,000+ arrests, and a 14-day internet blackout, the Iranian people are at a critical moment. Zolal Habibi, of the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), has dedicated over two decades to advocating for democracy and women’s rights. This episode is the most-listened-to episode of the podcast, highlighting global interest in Iran’s struggle.Key Topics Covered* Current Iran Uprising Analysis of December 2024-January 2025 protests across 220+ cities and all 31 provinces, marking a unified national resistance movement.* Internet Blackout Crisis Understanding the 14-day communications shutdown, its impact on Iranian civilians, and families crossing borders to send “I’m alive” messages.* The Third Option Regime change in Iran requires supporting the organized resistance, not foreign military intervention or appeasement diplomacy.* Fighting Misinformation Countering false narratives like monarchy restoration; understanding Iranians want a secular democratic republic, not “No Shah, No Mullahs.”Timestamped YouTube Chapters* 00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction Host introduces Zolal Habibi and explains the episode’s popularity, discussing global attention on Iran.* 00:03:15 - Iran Uprising Overview Zolal explains how December 28 strikes in Tehran sparked nationwide protests. The movement includes students, workers, and citizens across 220 cities.* 00:08:42 - The Brutal Crackdown Regime’s violent response: 3,000+ verified deaths, 50,000+ arrests, hospital raids, blood bank confiscations, and communications blackout.* 00:14:20 - 14-Day Internet Blackout Life under digital isolation: families unable to contact loved ones, people crossing borders to send texts, and the regime’s fear of coordination.* 00:19:56 - Youth Demographics & Unity 75% of Iran’s population is under 35. This generation, unfamiliar with freedom, drives unity across all demographics with the message: “No Shah, No Mullahs, Yes to Democracy.”* 00:26:33 - Organized Resistance on the Ground Resistance units coordinate protests, disarm forces, and even liberated cities on January 7. Focus on strategic planning vs. spontaneous action.* 00:33:18 - Confronting Division Tactics Regime exploits ethnic/ideological divisions. Importance of rejecting monarchy and fundamentalism for secular democratic governance.* 01:01:12 - Personal Sacrifice & Revolutionary Resolve Zolal‘s 72-hour hunger strike, death threats, and what drives lifelong activists.* 01:13:29 - Hope Amid Sacrifice Stories of teenagers filming farewell messages, the 20,000-name memorial book. Why these lives cannot be lost in vain.* 01:18:45 - Call to Action & Closing How listeners can help: share accurate info, combat misinformation, understand Iran’s struggle, support organized resistance, recognize global democratic parallels.Understanding Iran’s Resistance MovementWhat Iranians Want* Secular democratic republic (separation of religion and state)* People’s sovereignty (free, UN-monitored elections)* Six-month interim government + new constitution* Equal rights for all ethnicities, genders, and beliefs* End to execution and torture* Economic opportunity and restored resourcesWhat Iranians Reject* Islamic fundamentalist regime* Monarchy restoration* Foreign military intervention* Appeasement diplomacy* Ethnic or religious division* Any form of dictatorshipKey Organizations & Figures* National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) Umbrella coalition for Iran’s democratic opposition; a parliament-in-exile advocating for democratic principles.* Maryam Rajavi President-elect of the NCRI and leader of the Iranian Resistance. Advocate for women’s rights, secular governance, and democratic elections.* Resistance Units Grassroots network inside Iran coordinating protests, providing mutual aid, and resisting the regime.* Zolal Habibi Iranian human rights activist on NCRI Foreign Affairs Committee. Two decades of advocacy, amplifying Iranian voices.* LinkedIn* Instagram* X (Twitter)Why This Matters Globally“If Iran succeeds in killing ruthlessly and staying in power, the message to all dictatorships is clear: brutality works. The Iranian people have decided we’re not going to let that happen.”— Reflecting on President Zelensky’s warning about Iran’s crackdown* Iran’s Significance As the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism, a free Iran would transform Middle East stability.* Democracy Movements Iran’s uprising inspires global resistance, demonstrating people power can overcome authoritarian regimes.* Autocratic Tactics Internet blackouts, mass arrests, hospital raids—these tactics are replicated globally. Stopping them in Iran matters everywhere.The parallels to democratic threats in the U.S. and Europe are clear: division tactics, misinformation, normalization of violence, and civil liberty erosion are authoritarian tools, not uniquely Iranian problems.How You Can Help* Share Accurate Information Combat misinformation by sharing this podcast and verified sources. Many don’t know what’s happening in Iran; your social media reach matters.* Contact Your Representatives Call elected officials to demand IRGC blacklisting, support for Iranian resistance, and restored communications. Political pressure works.* Amplify Iranian Voices Follow and share content from Iranian activists, journalists, and resistance members. International amplification is vital during blackouts.* Educate Yourself & Others Learn about Iran’s history, the resistance, and the “Third Option.” Challenge narratives that limit choices to appeasement or military intervention.* Support Human Rights Organizations Donate to groups documenting atrocities, providing legal support, and advocating for accountability. Evidence collection is critical for justice.* Attend Solidarity Events Join protests supporting Iranian freedom. Global solidarity shows the regime they’re watched and Iranians they’re not alone.Resources & Further ReadingOfficial Organizations* National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI)* Organization of Iranian American Communities* Iran Freedom* Amnesty International* Iran Focus* Iran HRMFollow on Social Media* Zolal Habibi (LinkedIn)* Zolal Habibi (Instagram)* Zolal Habibi (X/Twitter)* Maryam Rajavi (X/Twitter)* Maryam Rajavi (Instagram)* #IranUprising* #No2ShahNo2Mullahs* #IranRevolutionTopics to Research* Iran’s 1979 Revolution history* Women, Life, Freedom movement* IRGC terrorist designation campaigns* Internet blackout circumvention toolsFinal ThoughtsA Message of Hope & UrgencyThis is a human story about the universal struggle for dignity, freedom, and democracy against authoritarian brutality. Teenagers filming goodbye messages. Families crossing borders to text “I’m alive.” The 3,000+ verified deaths for freedom.We can and we must. Share information, pressure governments, stand in solidarity. The Iranian people show extraordinary courage. We must bear witness, amplify their voices, and refuse to let their sacrifices be forgotten.As Zolal reminds us: these lives cannot be lost in vain. Every generation fighting for Iranian freedom deserves to see democracy. The organized resistance is real, the unity unprecedented, the resolve unshakeable.The regime knows it can’t return to December 27th. They fear organized people power—the only force capable of ending their rule.Thank you for reading, listening, and standing with the Iranian people. Share this information widely. Research the truth. The fight for democracy anywhere is the fight for democracy everywhere. Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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The hidden truth about the homeless in DC with Annemarie Cuccia of Street Sense
On today’s episode of What Do We Do Next? I sat down with Annemarie Cuccia, the editor in chief of Street Sense Media—a remarkable nonprofit street paper in Washington, D.C., that amplifies the voices of people experiencing homelessness.Annemarie and I talk about what’s really happening on D.C.’s streets right now—from recent government encampment clearings to the ongoing struggles so many face just to find safety and stability. She shares how Street Sense is helping to rewrite the narrative around homelessness—turning stigma into understanding, and isolation into opportunity.What I love about this conversation is how it shines a light on the human side of homelessness: the resilience, the creativity, and the deep desire for connection that too often gets overlooked. Annemarie also opens up about how Street Sense Media’s model offers more than just income for its vendors—it builds community, restores dignity, and gives people a voice in shaping their own stories.If you’ve ever wondered how to make a real difference for people experiencing homelessness—or what it actually takes to create long-term change—this episode will leave you thinking differently about what community really means.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction00:10 - “Street Sense: More Than a Paper”03:18 - Understanding Homelessness Misconceptions08:29 - Displacement Impact from Police Sweeps10:24 - “Non-Congregate Shelters’ Privacy Appeal”13:33 - “Community-Centered Storytelling Advantage”19:11 - “Street Sense’s Positive Impact”22:57 - Online Updates: Homelessness and Policy News25:17 - “Encouraging Support for Street Sense”26:45 - OutroQuotes:“I see our role as providing real, quality, empathetic, understanding information both to people who are experiencing homelessness or are low income.”- Annemarie Cuccia“We all need help sometimes, and storytelling is the best way for us to truly see one another and inspire change.”- Molly RulandKey Takeaways:Street Sense Media’s MissionImpact of the D.C. TakeoverMisconceptions About HomelessnessShelter Solutions and ProgressSupporting Vendors and CommunityWays to Get InvolvedConnect with Annemarie Cucciawebsite: https://streetsensemedia.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/streetsensedc/Twitter: https://x.com/streetsensedc /Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/streetsensedcCall To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible. Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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The cracks are beginning to widen with Frank Spring
Welcome back to What Do We Do Next? Today I’m joined once again by Frank Spring—founding partner at Altima Insight, political strategist, and one of my favorite returning guests to help make sense of this wild political moment we’re living in.In this episode, Frank and I dig into the state of American politics right now—how public trust is shifting, why old political narratives are falling apart, and what that means for both major parties heading into the next election cycle. We talk about why authoritarian movements often lose steam over time, how perceptions of economic hardship are driving voter frustration, and the growing disconnect between what political leaders are promising and what the public actually wants.We also look at the bigger picture: how economic pressures, media consolidation, and corporate monopolies are quietly shaping not just our politics, but our entire culture. It’s a wide-ranging, eye-opening conversation about where we are, how we got here, and—most importantly—where we could go next if we’re willing to imagine something better.If you’ve been feeling disillusioned or just trying to understand the forces behind today’s political chaos, this episode offers clarity, context, and a hopeful look at how we can rebuild trust, solidarity, and a stronger democracy together.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction00:10 “Frank A. Spring: Narrative Expert”06:12 - Republican Party’s Evolving Alliances07:22 - QAnon, Epstein, and Fringe Politics10:56 - Trump’s Decline in Media Savvy15:27 - Generational Perspectives on Israel-Palestine18:33 - Athlete’s Anti-Trans Activism Journey20:22 - “Engage and Groom Future Leaders”25:16 - Advocacy On Trans Athlete Policy26:21 - “Immigration System Controversy”29:42 - Understanding Immigration to the U.S.35:26 - Policy Disconnect Spurs Public Discontent36:57 - Privatized Prisons Exploit Immigrants42:34 - Disrupting Media Power Dynamics43:51 - Trump Administration’s Pro-Monopoly Stance49:33 - “Balancing Security, Comfort, and Democracy”52:00 - Embracing Simplicity Post-Pandemic Shift56:47 - “Bluesky Updates & Platform Change”57:44 - “Optimism in Dark Times”58:16 - OutroQuotes:“We are living through a period in which the old stories aren’t true. The next chapter of the American story is how we write it—and how we get back that sense of security and possibility.”- Frank Spring“We have so much more power than we realize, but we’ve grown comfortable. As that comfort leaves, people will wake up—and together we’ll see what we can do.”- Molly RulandKey Takeaways:Authoritarian projects eventually unravelEconomic realities drive political changeAmericans are becoming more aware and engagedLong-term strategy and engagement matterNarrative shapes how we see ourselves and our politicsCorporate power and monopolies are under scrutinyRoom for hope and renewalConnect with Frank SpringWebsite: https://www.theundaunted.co/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-spring-66bb891/Call To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible. Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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How to make global change possible with Dr. Sam Monier
When it comes to climate change and biodiversity loss, it can feel overwhelming, like the problems are too big and the solutions are out of reach. But what if there were ways to cut through the noise and actually understand what we can do next?On this episode of What Do We Do Next?, I sit down with Dr. Sam Monier, a wildlife biologist whose work spans species from birds to primates, studying how they adapt (or struggle to adapt) to a rapidly changing world. Our conversation dives into the hard truths of climate change, pollution, urbanization, and biodiversity loss, while also spotlighting the real power of individual choices, community action, and systemic change.Dr. Monier shares what most people get wrong about climate action, why everyday habits do matter, and how voting, advocacy, and teamwork can create ripple effects far bigger than we realize. We also talk about the role empathy plays in solving global problems, the importance of supporting science and scientists, and simple, practical steps anyone can take to be part of the solution.If you’ve ever wondered how to move from worry to action, or how your choices connect to the bigger picture, this conversation will give you clarity, hope, and direction for making a difference.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction01:47 - “Adapting to Multifaceted Climate Challenges”04:20 - Diverse Solutions to Global Problems08:03 - Misplaced Priorities and Social Policing11:11 - Personal Climate Change Observations14:11 - D.C.’s Allergies Worsen with Trees18:47 - “Shifting Baselines Explained”22:15 - Elections Are Competitive Everywhere25:36 - Mocking Bird Legislation27:32 - Critique of U.S. Climate Inaction Argument31:12 - Pursuing a Zero-Waste Lifestyle34:06 - Adapting to Eco-Friendly Living37:22 - Rise of Diverse Plant-Based Options40:24 - Beware Greenwashing in Consumer Choices43:45 - Acceptance and Positivity Amidst News44:08 - OutroQuotes:“There are countless ways to contribute. Let’s support how our community chooses to engage.”- Sam Monier“One little step at a time. One little action leads to bigger movements and that’s how we make changes.”- Molly RulandKey Takeaways:Climate change is complex.Every action matters.Don’t shame small efforts.Shifting baselines are real.Everyday choices count.Vote and stay informed.Respect other paths.Individual and collective impact.Connect with Sam MonierWebsite: https://www.samanthamonier.com/Call To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible. Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced by: Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Straight out of Wisconsin and ready to step up to the plate, meet Travis Retzlaff.
Ever feel like politics is something that happens out there, far away from your daily life? In this episode of What Do We Do Next? I sat with Travis Retzlaff, a lifelong Wisconsin resident, parent, and tireless community volunteer who proves that real change starts in your own backyard.Travis takes us inside his 15-year journey from knocking on doors and organizing neighbors to stepping up and running for office. We talk about what really gets people engaged in battleground states like Wisconsin, why credibility is built one volunteer shift at a time, and how small, steady wins can ripple into big impact.If you’ve ever wondered how to move from frustration to action—or even dreamed of running for office yourself—Travis shares practical, encouraging advice for getting involved at any level. Whether you’re ready to lead or just looking for a meaningful way to help behind the scenes, this conversation will leave you with concrete steps, real stories, and a fresh sense of possibility.Discover how ordinary people create extraordinary change, in this episode, starting right where they are.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction00:40 - Parenthood Meets Political Awakening04:09 - “Self-Leadership and Personal Growth”08:14 - “Listen and Learn Approach”12:38 - Wisconsin Gerrymandering and Political Shift15:18 - “Empowering Citizens Through Direct Democracy”19:54 - Organizing: Building Relationships & Impact21:21 - Podcasting: A Hopeful Alternative24:07 - Finding Your Volunteer Sweet Spot30:04 - Disconnecting to Reconnect Locally32:05 - Effective Personal Video Introductions34:34 - “Finding Purpose in Volunteering”35:00 - OutroQuotes:“Small acts of service with the right mindset create meaningful, lasting change.”- Travis Retzlaff“Nobody’s coming to save us. Any contribution you can make—no matter how small—moves us- Molly RulandKey TakeawaysThe long road to public serviceServant leadership starts with self-leadershipVolunteering builds credibilityLocal engagement mattersSmall wins make a differenceThere’s a place for everyoneProgress goes beyond electionsTake the first stepConnect with Travis RetzlaffWebsite: http://www.travisretzlaff.comCampaign YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@FightingfortheFifthPersonal YouTube -https://www.youtube.com/@TravisRetzlaffCall To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible. Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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From Far Right to Center Left with Mike Baranowski
Politics can be personal, and sometimes, transformative.In this episode of WDWDN, I sat down with Mike Baranowski, a political science PhD, professor of 27 years, and creator of The Politics Guys podcast. Mike’s story is fascinating: he went from being a far-right young Republican (who once thought Ronald Reagan was too liberal) to becoming a center-left Democrat and champion for genuine bipartisan dialogue.We dig into the big questions: What makes someone change their political beliefs? How do identity and emotion shape our politics? And how can we have honest, respectful debates in such a polarized world?Mike shares decades of wisdom from teaching, podcasting, and navigating America’s shifting political landscape. We talk about how to approach hard conversations with empathy, what to do when politics gets personal with friends and family, and how to protect your energy without giving up on the work that matters.If you’ve ever struggled to talk politics without losing your cool, or your relationships, this conversation is for you. I really enjoyed my time with Mike, I learned a lot from him and I’m grateful for those lessons. Chapters:00:00 - Introduction00:16 - Passion's Double-Edged Impact05:27 - Identity Challenges in Political Debates08:35 - Finding Common Ground11:25 - Understanding Through Empathy15:37 - Reaching Swing Voters Strategically18:14 - Graciously Disengaging from Politics19:53 - Engage Persuadable, Non-Voters25:54 - "Challenges of Verifying Information"27:35 - Pessimistic Reflections on Modern Politics29:54 - Trump: A Sad, Pathetic Figure34:17 - Embracing Dialogue and Self-Doubt38:48 - "Podcasting for Progress"40:01 - Embrace Being Uncomfortable42:44 - "Podcasting: All Guts, No Glory"44:47 - OutroQuotes:"True strength is in listening, questioning, and growing, even when it’s uncomfortable."- Mike Baranowski"Braver conversations make the world better. Connect and talk, even when it's hard."- MollyKey Takeaways:From Far Right to Center Left: The Journey of ChangeIdentity and Politics: More Entwined Than We AdmitDon’t Aim to Convert Everyone—Focus on Who’s OpenGracious Disengagement Is Powerful Self-CareThe Art of Asking Good QuestionsQuality Sources Matter More Than EverLet Empathy Dilute Your AngerTake Care of Yourself to Stay EffectiveProgress Is Possible—But Only if We Get UncomfortableConnect with Mike Baranowski:Website: The Politics Guys - Independent & Bipartisan Political AnalysisCall To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible. Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced byHeartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Spiritual Activism with Beth Green
I sat down with Beth Green, a woman whose seven decades of activism have not only witnessed history, but helped shape it. From being tracked by the FBI at just 12 years old to leading the Wages for Housework campaign, Beth has been a steady force in the fight for justice for most of her life. We talked about what it means to stay committed to justice over the long haul, how a deep spiritual awakening shifted her approach to activism, and why she believes sustainability, both personal and collective, is key to any real change. Beth doesn’t separate the personal from the political. For her, nurturing is resistance. Kindness is a strategy. And spiritual activism? It’s essential.Together, we unpack big ideas: privilege, capitalism, burnout, and how to keep going when the world feels like too much. But this isn’t just theory, Beth shares real, actionable ways to show up, support each other, and stay rooted in community and accountability.If you’ve ever wondered how to keep fighting without burning out, or how to lead with both your heart and your hands, this one will meet you where you are, and remind you that change starts from the inside out.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction01:40 - Spiritual Awakening and Transformation08:28 - "Wages for Houseware Campaign Arrest"13:27 - Coping with Overwhelming Change17:04 - Choose Regeneration Over Escape25:32 - Women's Historical Workforce Contributions27:49 - "Valuing Nonprofit Work in Society"36:12 - Economic Insights: Labor and Consumer Dynamics40:53 - Prioritizing Needs Over Profits46:48 - "Rethinking Independence and Governance"52:13 - Embrace Your Unique Gifts57:49 - Use Your Voice Now01:00:15 - "Invite Beth: Podcast Guest Promo"01:01:57 - OutroQuotes:“To create change, we must stay centered, courageous, and compassionate. Hysteria only hinders our progress.”- Beth Green“Your voice matters, no matter your background. Use it now.”- Molly RulandKey Takeaways:Standing the Test of TimeWhat is Spiritual Activism?Burnout and the Power of RegenerationPrivilege, Power, and NurturingRethinking the SystemReimagining Our FutureSmall Acts, Big ImpactGuided by the FutureConnect with Beth GreenWebsite: https://bethgreen.org/Please sign: The New Declaration of IndependenceCall To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible.Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Iran’s Resistance and the Fight for Democracy with Zolal Habibi
On this episode I sat down with Zolal Habibi, a fierce advocate for human rights, democracy, and women’s freedom in Iran. Zolal’s story begins with heartbreaking loss: her father, a respected writer and political dissident, was killed by the regime when she was just a teenager. That loss became the foundation of a life spent fighting for justice — and now, with more than 20 years of activism and a role on the Foreign Affairs Committee of the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), Zolal is a voice the world needs to hear.We talked about what’s really happening inside Iran — the ongoing resistance against a brutal theocracy, the unimaginable cost of dissent, and the courageous, youth-led, women-driven movement demanding change. Zolal doesn’t speak in hypotheticals. She speaks from experience — and from deep conviction.She also breaks down the narrative traps and misinformation that cloud the truth: from myths about Iran’s history to the global misunderstanding of the resistance, including the MEK (People’s Mojahedin Organization of Iran). This conversation clears the fog and gets to the heart of the matter.If you’ve ever asked yourself how to support real change in Iran — or what it means to stand for human rights beyond borders — this episode is for you. It’s a call to action, a lesson in courage, and a powerful reminder that silence helps the oppressor. And we have the power to choose differently.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction01:21 - Empowering Voices: Zolal Habibi03:09 - Iran's Brain Drain Crisis07:21 - Iran-Iraq War Ceasefire's Grim Aftermath09:46 - Justice Movement for 1988 Massacre14:52 - Mariam Rajavi's Interim Presidency16:04 - Advocating Change: Iran Freedom Vision19:09 - Resilient Iranian Resistance Movement Persists23:05 - Support Iranian Resistance, End Appeasement27:30 - Iran's Nuclear Revelations by NCRA31:52 - Iranian Women's Resilience and Leadership33:25 - Hope Amidst Uncertainty in Iran36:40 - Iranian Generational Struggle for Change39:42 - "Torture's Long-Lasting Scars"44:04 - "Caring for Iran, Caring for All"47:11 - "Inspired by Courageous Voices"49:06 - OutroQuotes:“Every generation that resists makes the future brighter for the next. Even in the face of extreme adversity, we refuse to give in—resistance continues and so does the dream of freedom."- Zolal Habibi“Speaking up might be scary, but the alternative is much more grim. It’s in finding our own courage to resist, even in small ways, that we make a difference.”- Molly RulandKey Takeaways:Iran’s Unbreakable SpiritThe Price of ResistanceA Vibrant, Young, and Educated PopulationWomen at the FrontlinesThe Third Option: Supporting Iranian Self-DeterminationLessons for the WorldHow You Can HelpInspiration in ActionConnect with Zolal Habibi:Website:http://ncr-iran.org/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zolalhabibi/Instagram:http://instagram.com/maryamrajavinewsX (twitter): http://x.com/ashrafi4everCall To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible. Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced byHeartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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The Role of Women in Iran's Fight for Freedom with Zahra Amanpour
I’m proud to share this one with you, I hope you find it valuable. I sat down with Zahra Amanpour, a lifelong human rights advocate whose story is as powerful as it is necessary. Zahra grew up in the heart of the Iranian resistance movement after losing her father to the regime for his activism. Her life since then has been a testament to what it means to fight for freedom not with empty slogans, but with courage, clarity, and deep, personal conviction.We talked about what’s really happening in Iran beyond the headlines, beyond the Western media spin. Zahra shares the “third option” for Iran: a future led by the Iranian people themselves, not through foreign intervention or appeasement, but through grassroots resistance and collective will.We also talked about the central role women are playing in this movement risking everything for change and why it’s critical we stop conflating the Iranian government with the Iranian people. Zahra’s stories are raw and deeply human: stories of loss, resilience, and a hope that refuses to die.If you’ve ever felt powerless watching injustice unfold across the world, this conversation offers both context and direction. We dig into the brutality of the current regime, the controversy around Iran’s nuclear ambitions, and the importance of global solidarity rooted in truth and human dignity.This isn’t just about Iran, it’s about the universal fight for freedom, and what each of us can do to stand on the right side of it.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction01:57 - Zahra’s Fight for Freedom05:25 - Exploring Iran's Third Option07:20 - U.S.-Iran Appeasement Dilemma13:10 - Reflecting on Resistance and Democracy14:45 - Separating Iranian Voices from Influence20:24 - Iranian Women's Historic Resistance22:38 - Women's Leadership in Iranian Resistance26:41 - "Nuclear-Free Iran: A Vision"29:27 - Global Resistance Against Regime Lobbying32:45 - Resilience and Resolve in Resistance36:03 - "Unity and Awareness Call"39:09 - "Supporting Resistance Against Cruelty"40:50 - OutroQuotes:"Freedom transcends nationality. It's about humanity and empowering women worldwide. I am committed to seeing Iran's oppressive regime fall and its people liberated."- Zahra Amanpour"Women are the key to change. When empowered, we become an unstoppable force for freedom."- Molly RulandKey Takeaways:Resistance is Personal, and UniversalThe Power and Promise of the Third OptionWomen at the Vanguard of ChangeVisibility is EmpowermentSmart Sanctions, Not StarvationGrassroots Over LobbyistsThe Momentum is BuildingInspiration for AllHow You Can Help—Right NowConnect with Zahra AmanpourLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zahraamanpour/Call To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible. Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Holidays at the Hitlers
This was a hard episode to record, I’ve sat with these feelings for the last couple of months and it’s been rattling me. I have been feeling so conflicted and so angry with myself for not doing more, for not saying more and being complicit in what’s happening. I wasn’t sure how I wanted to say this or what I even wanted to say, so I took action first and then hit record. I am hopeful that so many of you feel the same way I do so I put myself out there and spoke from the heart, a sailor’s heart, but heart none the less. It’s not perfect, far from it, but it’s real. If you can get through this and it makes you feel something, you are my people and I hope we can find our way forward together. I don’t have any answers but I am hoping by being honest it will help me find my way and find my people. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”―Benjamin FranklinPlease connect with me on Linkedin and help me fix my algo. Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Why People Join Cults with Dr. Margaret Cochran
I had the chance to speak with Dr. Margaret Cochran, a transpersonal psychologist, clinical social worker, life coach, educator, hypnotherapist, and author (yes, all of that!) with over 25 years of experience helping people navigate some of the most complex parts of the human mind. In this conversation, we dig into something that’s often whispered about but rarely unpacked properly: cults.We talk about what actually pulls people into cult-like groups, and spoiler: it has nothing to do with how smart or educated you are. Dr. Cochran breaks down the psychological patterns, emotional needs, and deep human longings that make us vulnerable: the need for safety, control, purpose, and belonging. And while it’s easy to keep the word “cult” at a distance, the truth is these same patterns show up in political extremism, toxic relationships, and even everyday communities that manipulate more than they nurture.We also get into how to support someone who may be caught up in a group like this, what helps, what doesn’t, and why kindness and connection are often more powerful than confrontation. Dr. Cochran shares practical tools for fostering critical thinking, emotional resilience, and empathy, especially in a world that feels more divided than ever.If you’re trying to understand a loved one’s choices, or just want to learn how to recognize and resist manipulation in all its forms, this episode offers clarity, hope, and some powerful tools for healing and helping.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction01:19 - Holistic Mental Health Expert04:32 - The Allure of Absolute Belief09:07 - Religions, Cults, and Power Dynamics12:18 - Addressing the "Trump Cult" Divide14:14 - Critical Thinking and Sovereignty Struggle19:41 - Navigating Political Differences22:25 - Positive Memories Aid in Persuasion25:46 - Contrasting Responses: Empathy vs. Dismissal30:31 - "Fear, Control, and Behavior"32:56 - Compassion Over Condemnation Online37:16 - Seeking Solutions Amid Uncertainty38:01 - QAnon, Frustration, and Misguided Beliefs40:31 - OutroQuotes:“Let’s extend empathy to those caught up, welcoming them back instead of succumbing to anger.”- Molly Ruland“You have the ultimate control over your life through your reactions. Embrace this power, and you hold the key to your own strength.”- Dr. Margaret CochranKey Takeaways:Cult Members: Not Who You ThinkWhy People Join Cults: Salvation & ControlBrains Are Wired for Fear and ConnectionIsolation Fuels IndoctrinationIt’s Not Just Religion—Politics, Domestic Abuse, and MoreCritical Thinking is Our Best ArmorBreaking Through: Small Windows of DoubtKindness is RevolutionaryYour Mississippi MomentWe All Want Belonging and SafetyChange Happens Through Community, Not ShameConnect with Dr. Margaret CochranWebsite: www.drcochran.comCall To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible.Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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The Cost of Living Crisis with Frank Spring
In this episode of What Do We Do Next?, I sat down with Frank A. Spring, founding partner at Altum Insight and co-founder of Undaunted Ventures, for one of the most grounded and eye-opening conversations I’ve had in a while. Frank’s been advising progressive campaigns in both the US and UK for years, but what really struck me is how clearly he breaks down the stories, the ones we’re told, the ones we believe, and the ones we carry, that shape how we see politics, identity, and each other.We talk about where political disillusionment really comes from, why it feels like everything’s burning, and how the constant pressure of bad news, rising costs, and fear has reshaped our public mood. But Frank doesn’t leave it there, he offers a new way to think about fascism (and why it’s not as permanent as it seems), repositions the conversation around immigration, and most importantly, reminds us that hope isn’t naïve. It’s necessary.If you’ve been feeling grief, burnout, or like your voice doesn’t matter, this episode is for you. We talk about how to stay engaged without falling apart, how to show up with your time, your money, or your energy in a way that’s sustainable and actually moves the needle.This is a conversation filled with honesty, practical insights, and a quiet kind of encouragement I think we all need right now. Listen in, I think you’ll feel a little less alone by the end.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction01:22 - "Stories: Patterns in Human History"05:35 - Exploring Montanans' Views on Democracy11:47 - Fascism: Aesthetic, Exclusion, Supremacy16:59 - "Tucker Carlson Criticized Amid Challenges"23:28 - Courts and Resistance in American Fascism31:08 - Rising Costs vs. Quality of Life31:49 - Middle-Class Costs Double in 20 Years38:09 - Democratic Party's Relevance Crisis46:52 - Shrinkflation: Profit Over Consumer Value49:12 - Immigration Insights and Social Media Chaos54:02 - "Anger and Distrust in U.S. Politics"01:01:05 - Rethinking Civility in American Politics01:07:05 - Finding Common Ground Beyond Politics01:09:35 - "Misguided Immigration Policies Critiqued"01:13:07 - OutroQuotes:“America is imperfect but striving toward its potential. Stay present, grateful, and persistent. Together, we will overcome.”- Frank Spring“Things may not be as bad as they seem. Together, we can move forward. Every action matters. We all have something to give.”- Molly RulandKey Takeaways:The Power of Storytelling in PoliticsFascism: A Minority That Always LosesResistance Looks Different For EveryoneThe Root Issue: The Cost of Living CrisisOur Government Can—and Should—Do MoreImmigration: It’s Not About Hate—It’s About ChaosStop Bringing Facts to a Feelings FightMourning Is Not The End—It’s Part of the ProcessStay Present, Stay Grateful, Keep Doing Hard ThingsConnect with Frank SpringWebsite: Altum Insight & Undaunted VenturesCall To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible.Podcast on News and Politics – What We Do We Do NextProduced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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How to Run & Win Elections with Eva Posner of Evinco Strategies
On this episode Eva Posner and I get into the messiness of politics: the long hours, the emotional exhaustion, the constant fundraising, and the ways it can stretch and strain even the most well-meaning candidates. But we also talk about why it’s worth it and how local politics, despite being overlooked, might be our most powerful tool for creating lasting change.This episode isn’t about hype or false hope. It’s about the truth, the kind of truth that helps you figure out where you actually fit in this fight. We talk about what it means to build something from the ground up, how to support campaigns that align with your values, and how to show up for your community without burning out. We also get into why both major parties have serious blind spots, and why being disillusioned doesn’t mean giving up, it means getting smarter.If you’re thinking about running for office, we break down the questions you need to ask yourself first and if running’s not for you, we talk through real, practical ways to still make a difference. From funding and volunteering to just unplugging from the doom-scroll and connecting with your neighbors, this conversation is packed with ideas for action.Because the truth is: no one’s coming to save us. But that’s not a reason to panic, it's a reason to step up. And this episode will help you figure out how.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction01:23 - Running for Office: Considerations05:28 - "Unqualified for Public Office"10:09 - Preparing for Political Leadership11:40 - Barriers to Running for Office14:28 - Life Spreadsheet Planning20:22 - Comprehensive Political Fundraising Solutions21:33 - Affordable Campaign Training Programs27:22 - Local Governance and Infrastructure Woes28:13 - Local Issues and Solutions34:18 - "Encouragement to Run for Office"37:47 - "Infrastructure's Role in Political Change"42:02 - "Collaborative Efforts Drive Change"43:25 - "Get Involved: Fascism's Urgency"47:14 - Podcast: A Beacon Amidst Chaos48:57 - OutroQuotes:”If you want to take your power back, you're gonna have to work for it”- Eva Posner"One of the things that keeps happening is that the Supreme Court essentially keeps saying, 'Okay, we're going to push it back to the States.' If that's their play, then it's up to us in the States to say, 'Heard, bet, got it.'"- Eva Posner"Nobody will save us. Together, brick by brick, we protect each other and move forward."- Molly RulandKey Takeaways:Running for Office is Life-Changing—Do Your HomeworkQualifications Are More Than a Resume—Bring Your Real Life to the TableLocal Offices Make the Biggest ImpactIf Not You, Support Someone Who IsBuild Your Rolodex—Campaigns Run on NetworksLosing Isn’t the End—It’s Building Power for Next TimeDon’t Burn Out—Pick Your Battles & Protect Your SanityNo One’s Coming to Save Us—It’s On Us, TogetherConnect with Eva Posnerhttps://www.evincostrategies.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/evinco-strategies/Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/evincocampaigns/Book a Call with Eva Posnerhttps://www.evincostrategies.com/book-a-callBook a call if you want to run for office, you run a local or community org that needs more resources, or just want to get involved, and you don't know where to startCall To ActionPlease consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible.https://whatdowedonext.us/Produced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Understanding the difference between illegal and undocumented with Ian Taronji
The most incredible thing happened the day after recording this episode and I feel compelled to share. In this episode Ian and I get into the difference between illegal and undocumented, a distinction that I don’t think most people understand. I know I didn’t, its confusing and the language has been weaponized by the media, and innocently by allies.The very next day I had a conversation with my dad and we were talking about this and I was able to have an extremely productive conversation with him about immigration. It was not from a place of judgement or anger, which I am not very good at hiding. My communication skills are really put into the spotlight with those conversations, and truth be told most of the time I fail, big time. Because of this podcast episode, we were able to find common ground and I am so grateful for that.I started this podcast for this exact reason, not to talk to my dad, but to talk to anyone. I have this maybe naive idea that we all actually want the same thing. Some of us are more racist and horrible than others, but when it comes to my dad and I, I know who he is because Im exactly like him. We feel the same on a lot of issues but we can also be very divided because we aren’t able to actually get to the root of things. I know I am not the only one feeling this right now.If this podcast can impact one positive conversation to find a path forward, together, thats a win. So, having said all that, I hope you take a listen and leave a review.On this first episode I sat down with Ian Taronji—a dedicated asylum lawyer, lifelong advocate, and talented musician based in Washington, DC.Drawing from his own family’s experience as the son of a Cuban refugee, Ian shares insights into the realities of immigration law and what it’s really like standing up for his clients as they face ever-shifting policies and pressures from agencies like ICE. The conversation dives deep into my recent and all-too-relatable run-in with ICE agents in Miami, sparking a frank discussion on civil rights, the lawlessness of current immigration enforcement, and what people—citizens, immigrants, and allies alike—can do if they find themselves or their loved ones in intimidating situations.From practical advice on what to do if ICE comes knocking, to distinguishing the often-misused terms “illegal” and “undocumented,” Ian provides listeners with clear, actionable guidance and a heartfelt call to remain vigilant, organized, and compassionate. Plus, the episode explores the importance of documenting abuses, advocating for policy change, and supporting each other in the face of uncertainty.Please join us for a conversation that's equal parts eye-opening, empowering, and grounded in real-world experience—setting the tone for a podcast dedicated to helping us all figure out, together, what we do next.03:00 "Miami Airport ICE Encounter Story"04:52 Detained Before Flight Departure08:42 ICE and Civil Rights Concerns10:45 Lack of Accountability at DHS14:41 Plan for Limited Interactions with ICE16:50 Preparing for ICE: Key Steps21:10 Street Safety and Bystander Advice23:54 Tactical Surveillance Essentials27:59 "Filming Police: A Legal Overview"29:36 "Pre-Smartphone Witness Recording Service"32:54 Undocumented vs. Illegal Terminology37:59 Illegal vs. Undocumented Immigrants39:48 Advocacy for Undocumented Immigrants45:10 "Memorize Key Contacts for Safety"Key Takeaways:* Have a Plan—Always: Whether you’re undocumented, a green card holder, or a concerned family member, create and write down a step-by-step plan in case of detention. Memorize important phone numbers and make sure everyone involved knows what to do.* Know Your Rights at Home and on the Street: If ICE comes to your door, do NOT let them in unless they have a proper judicial warrant. Out in public, never resist—stay calm, keep your hands where agents can see them, and communicate your status if necessary.* Document and Communicate: Witnessing an ICE action? Use the SALUTE method (Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time, Equipment) to record and report what’s happening—without intervening or putting yourself at risk. Accountability starts with citizen vigilance.Please consider joining our Substack to help us get this message to as many people as possible. https://whatdowedonext.us/Produced by Heartcast Media Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Listening is the Revolution
Hey there, Molly here. Im glad you found your way here and I am excited for our journey together. I decided a month ago I wanted to create this podcast to empower power to take action and to do it in a smart, balanced and compassionate manner. I don’t think any of us need any more evidence of what’s happening, the new cycle is giving us all PTSD and I spend half my day disassociating because of it. I’m only half kidding. One moment I am angry, the next hopeful, the next scared, you see where I am going with this. I started to have cold feet until my incident in May at the Miami airport where I was detained, questioned, searched and punished by unidentified agents at the American Airlines gate.Some of you are probably following me now because of that story and how viral it has gone, but a lot of you have known me for years and know that this isn’t a new thing for me. I was indoctrinated by Behold a Pale Horse and Zeitgeist. I was radicalized by watching Eric Garner die on camera and take his last breath, because he was selling cigarettes. I spent a lot of years protesting, organizing, and learning about what being an ally means and man, I got it wrong, a lot. So, if you are looking for perfection you will be sadly disappointed. I sway more towards stand up comedy than highly educated and I learned from living, it’t not always pretty. Never, actually.Having said all that, the goal of this podcast is to use my resources to talk to the people who ARE educated, experience, verified, etc to figure out what we should do next. Its not an anti anything podcast, its about the path forward. A path that I hope is filled with love, compassion and boots on the fucking ground. I can feel what is at risk and I’m terrified. Us Americans have had it really easy for a lot of years. I don’t want things to go back to how they were, do not misunderstand me. However, if you grew up in America like I did, you never had a war on your soil. So many of our global neighbors have not been so lucky. If you think that the collapse isn’t possible, look around the world. We can fight this though, one person at a time, one conversation at a time, one act of resistance at a time.My goal is to create a harbor of truth and empowerment for you to find your path in the revolution. We all resist differently, we have different experiences and different things to protect. What I did at the Miami airport was a touch reckless, according to my therapist, but it wasn’t illegal. I was in a position to take that risk, so please know I will never judge anyone for how they show up. I don’t want anyone to feel sorry for me, I made that choice. I want you to use my story to shed light on whats happening and hopefully, with any luck and your help, this podcast will help us create a playbook.I am going to personally cover the costs of the podcast production and some paid media. I have also created this Substack and 100% of the donations/memberships etc will go to paid ads. What does that mean? It means that the podcast will show up everywhere online and we will grow the audience rapidly. We can get actionable tools to the citizens of the world very quickly. Between people sharing it organically and the paid media, we can blow this up.It’s not about me, its about the information. I want the podcast episodes to be guides for you to navigate this new world order. Easy to search, easy to share and empowering AF.If you want to help, I will take it. Substack experts, clearly I am not, please hit me up.Like Bob says,“Rise up fallen fightersRise and take your stance, again 'Tis he who fights and run away, live to fight another day”Thank you for your time, we got this!Molly Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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Feeling paralyzed by the news cycle? This podcast cuts through the noise to give you practical steps for engaging in democracy, communicating across divides, and making real impact—no breaking news, just direction. whatdowedonext.substack.com
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