Grub & Grace

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Grub & Grace

We are on a journey to listen and learn through discussion and good-faith dialogue. There is plenty of room at the table so we invite you to pull up a chair and share in this meal with us while we all learn together.

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    Your Matter Matters w Will Rose

    In a world flooded with information, distractions, and algorithm-driven certainty, how do we genuinely pursue truth without getting lost in the noise? This episode explores the interconnectedness of science, faith, ethics, technology, history, and spirituality, challenging the idea that these worlds must exist in opposition to one another. Instead of settling for simplistic binaries, we lean into curiosity, nuance, and the uncomfortable reality that truth is often far more complex than we’d like it to be.Can faith and science coexist, or have we been conditioned to see them as enemies? From questions about meaning and morality to the ways identity shapes our understanding of reality, this conversation examines why humans cling so tightly to certainty in an increasingly fragmented world. Think of it like an endless debate between Star Wars and Star Trek fans—except the stakes are existential, and nobody gets a lightsaber.We are joined today by pastor Will Rose; a Lutheran pastor, Theology Beer Camp enthusiast, and one of the hosts of Systematic Geekology and Across the Bifrost, the Mighty Thor Podcast. He is a co-host on the new podcast limited series Your Matter Matters with Thomas Johnston. You can also find him on Instagram @willnrose.Attributions: ON8FDNIHEAKJ8GXS

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    Cultural Gaslighting of American Mothers w Sandra Maurer

    Motherhood in America is often sold as a beautiful, fulfilling dream wrapped in matching family photos and inspirational coffee mugs. The reality, however, tends to involve exhaustion, impossible expectations, political whiplash, and a society that insists everything is “fine” while mothers quietly drown beneath the weight of it all. In this episode of the G&G Podcast, we unpack the cultural gaslighting surrounding American motherhood — the constant messaging that women should feel grateful, fulfilled, and supported despite systems that often leave them isolated, overworked, and blamed for struggling.From reproductive healthcare and bodily autonomy to economic instability, immigrant family fears, childcare costs, and the emotional labor mothers are expected to absorb without complaint, this conversation examines the widening gap between public narratives and lived reality. Why are mothers expected to function as emotional shock absorbers for society while receiving so little structural support in return? And what does that disconnect do to a person psychologically over time?Joining the conversation is Sandra Maurer, a licensed professional clinical counselor and reproductive mental health specialist from Minnesota, who helps explore the mental and emotional toll these contradictions create. Together, we discuss chronic stress, anxiety, societal conditioning, maternal identity, and the impossible balancing act many women are pressured to perform every day.If you’ve ever felt like the messaging around motherhood sounds suspiciously different from what mothers are actually experiencing, this episode is for you. Because sometimes the most destabilizing part of dysfunction is being told you’re overreacting to it.American Mother-load is Sandra Maurer's future book that she is hoping to get out later in 2026.IG: @mn_therapistTT: @mn_therapistAttributions: ON8FDNIHEAKJ8GXS

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    Doubting Faithfully w Keith Long

    In this episode, we sit down with the ideas from Doubting Faithfully by Keith Long to explore what it means to deconstruct faith without abandoning it entirely. Instead of treating doubt as failure, we examine how it can be a sign of growth—a willingness to move beyond inherited certainty and into something more honest, even if it’s less comfortable.We also dig into the unsettling pull sometimes felt within high-control religious spaces—the sense that questioning could cost you everything, yet not questioning might cost you yourself. From there, we wrestle with what it means to hold tension: to entertain difficult ideas without immediately accepting or rejecting them. Why is that so hard? What systems, fears, or social pressures keep people from engaging deeply with their own beliefs? And how might learning to sit with uncertainty actually reflect a deeper kind of spiritual maturity?Ultimately, this conversation invites us to loosen our grip on needing to be right. What if being wrong isn’t something to fear, but something to learn from? What if faith isn’t about certainty, but about curiosity, humility, and the courage to keep going anyway? Pull up a chair—this is a space where doubt isn’t the end of faith, but part of how it becomes something real.Keith Long has been a Lutheran pastor for 14 years and is the author of three books, Doubting Faithfully: Confessions of a Skeptical Pastor, Growing Spirit Wise: A Heretic’s Guide to Resurrection and Eternal Life, and Moviemakers, a novella. Keith has also written for New Testament scholar Bart D. Ehrman's blog, studies expanded consciousness in his free time, and loves his home state of Minnesota where he resides with his family.His website is www.authorkeithlong.com and is currently developing a Lecture Series entitled "Jesus Beyond Christianity" 7 in-person and online presentations exploring pre-Christian culture and the future of religion.Attributions: ON8FDNIHEAKJ8GXS

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    Xtian Leftists Against Christofascism

    Episode Notes — Xtian Leftists Against ChristofascismWelcome to Grub & Grace, a space that pushes back on the idea that Christianity belongs to one political ideology. Here, we take seriously the need to question what we’ve been taught—especially when faith gets tangled up with power. In this episode, we confront how Christian Nationalism continues to shape public life, and how certain church leaders have traded prophetic witness for proximity to empire—dressing up domination, exclusion, and nationalism in the language of “God’s will.”We dig into what some are calling an “attack on empathy”—how compassion itself is being reframed as weakness or even heresy in certain spaces. From policies that harm marginalized communities to rhetoric that dehumanizes immigrants, queer folks, and BIPOC communities, we explore how systems built to benefit cis-het white power structures ultimately dehumanize everyone. This includes a hard look at the realities of immigration enforcement and the fear it instills in families and communities, raising urgent questions about justice, dignity, and who gets to be seen as fully human.At its core, this episode is about reclaiming faith from the grips of empire. What does it look like to follow a tradition rooted in liberation rather than control? How do we resist forms of Christianity that align with fascism while building something more honest, more just, and more life-giving in its place? Pull up a chair—this is a conversation that refuses easy answers but insists on something better.Anthony DePice is an activist and an organizer. You can find him on all social platforms under the name Anthony DePice.Attributions: ON8FDNIHEAKJ8GXS

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We are on a journey to listen and learn through discussion and good-faith dialogue. There is plenty of room at the table so we invite you to pull up a chair and share in this meal with us while we all learn together.

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