He Said It First

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He Said It First

Join Jenna Meister, LPC, and Dr. Erin Kincaid, BCBC, as they share practical interventions, meaningful activities, and timeless truths designed to strengthen both counselors and the clients they serve. Each episode invites you into conversations that bridge clinical wisdom with biblical truth, reminding us that every good principle of care was first spoken by God. Together, Jenna and Erin reveal how these truths are not only relevant for modern counseling but also life-giving for anyone seeking healing, growth, and hope.

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    HSIF S. 2 Ep. 7 - Solid Help for Weary Souls

      In this final episode of Season 2 of He Said It First, Jenna and Erin sit with the reality so many counselors and everyday people are quietly carrying... weariness. The kind that settles deep in the bones after walking through hard seasons, holding space for others, and navigating the weight of life’s demands.  Together, they offer both honest acknowledgment and steady hope, grounding the conversation in Scripture and gentle reminders of what we are truly called to cling to when strength feels thin. This episode is for the counselor who is tired, the helper who feels stretched, and the person who has simply had a lot to carry. It is a moment to pause, to be reminded, and to realign with truth. Be sure to stay with us all the way to the end as we close out the season with the full He Said It First theme song, a final exhale before we step away for a short break.& Thank you for being part of this season with us.Sending you love and light, and we will see you again later this summer or fall, or whenever we feel like plugging in the mics again. :)"Prayer Portions" Book - referenced in this Episode: https://amzn.to/3Pm1VBEOnline Biblical Counseling - Virtual Biblical Counseling - https://www.higherhopesonline.com/Jenna Meister, LPC In-Person Sessions in Texas- https://www.rockwallheathcounseling.com/Biblical Counseling Certification - https://www.higherhopesinstitute.com/Therapy Supplies for Counselors & Therapists - The Therapy Supply Store - https://thetherapysupplystore.com/HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    HSIF Season 2 Ep. 6 - Faithful, But By the Book

    In this episode, Jenna puts Jenna on the spot and asks her to walk through, off the top of her head, what it really looks like to honor professional standards while staying grounded in Biblical truth. What unfolds is an honest, thoughtful conversation about the tension clinicians often feel between calling and code- between what we believe deeply and what we are ethically bound to practice. We talk through APA guidelines, how they protect both the client and the counselor, and where therapists can feel the quiet friction of wanting to bring more of their faith into the room. It is real, unscripted, and grounded in the kind of nuance that Christian counselors navigate every day, on how to remain clinically sound without losing the heart of why we do this work in the first place.Listen in and enjoy!Online Biblical Counseling - https://www.higherhopesonline.com/Biblical Counseling Certification - https://www.higherhopesinstitute.com/If you are in Texas and want to see Erin or Jenna, you can find them at https://www.RockwallHeathcounseling.com/If you would like to schedule Erin or Jenna (or both of them!) to speak at your ministry event, please email contact@HigherHopesInstitute.comHigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    HSIF Season 2 Ep. 4 - The Interview w. Dr. Sean Blacksten & Tim Meister

    While Erin was off conquering the Alps (and probably finding life metaphors somewhere between the slopes and the snow), Jenna held down the mic with her husband Tim Meister and Dr. Sean Blackston for a conversation that feels equal parts origin story and behind-the-scenes look at the heart of Higher Hopes Online and Higher Hopes Institute. They dive into the calling that led them into Biblical counseling, the winding road that got them here, and the principles that shape how they care for others and themselves, along the way. It’s thoughtful, grounded, and quietly powerful… with just enough warmth and real-life honesty to remind you that this work isn’t just taught, it’s lived.Links from today's show:https://www.higherhopesonline.com/https://www.higherhopeintitute.com/HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    HSIF Season 2 Ep. 3 - 5 Top Couples Counseling Complaints

    In this episode of He Said It First, Erin puts Jenna on the spot with the top five complaints couples bring into therapy—no script, no prep, just real conversation. From communication breakdowns to unmet expectations, we unpack what’s really beneath the surface. Expect insight, honesty, and a few laughs along the way. It’s the kind of conversation that might just make you rethink your own relationship dynamics.Coffee on this episode: Lion's Head Coffee - Glory Blend https://lionsheadcoffee.com/HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.comHigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    HSIF Season 2 Ep. 2 - Purpose and 3 Ways to be a Better Christian Counselor

      Season 2, Episode 2, Part 2 of He Said It First keeps the conversation rolling as Erin and Jenna unpack three ways to become a better Christian therapist, inspired by a Psychology Today article but viewed through the lens of faith, purpose, and the calling of Christian counseling. Along the way, they explore what it really means to live and practice within your God-given purpose, even when that purpose comes with a little tension.  Coffee is flowing, laughter is plentiful, and Erin may or may not turn into a full-blown Chatty Cathy in this episode… but in her defense, when the topic is purpose, therapy, and Jesus, it’s hard not to have a lot to say. Jenna graciously lets the words flow while adding her usual wisdom, making this episode equal parts insight, humor, and the kind of conversation that feels like sitting down with good friends and a fresh cup of coffee. ☕HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    HSIF Season 2 Episode 1 Part 1 -7 Steps to a Better You?

    Season 2 of He Said It First launches with energy, laughter, and Part 1 of a two-part conversation on “Seven Steps to a Better You.” Erin and Jenna blend Christian therapy insight with real-life honesty, giving both counselors and clients practical ways to grow while keeping grace at the center of the process. As always, the conversation is full of coffee, humor, and the kind of faith-centered perspective that makes meaningful change feel both possible and approachable. This season also brings big news with the debut of a brand-new theme song that perfectly captures the heart and personality of the show. Get ready to tap your toes and sing along - It is a fresh start, a fun beginning, and an invitation to step into growth together.HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    HSF - Don't Go It Alone

    Jenna and Erin try to hold it together while they talk you through the importance of doing life... together. Listen in while they sip java, chortle, and talk through the importance of not going it alone in life, practice, or in general. Links:https://www.timhortons.com/ - OH Canada, that's good coffee!!!!https://www.HigherHopesInstitute.comhttps://www.HigherHopesOnline.comhttps://www.HigherHopesCounseling.comHigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    He Said It First - Ep. 7 - Get In Their Business

    In this episode, Jenna and Erin dig into why it matters to “get in their business.”Because when someone you love starts slipping under an unhealthy influence,you’ll only see it if you’re close enough to notice.PS: Erin fully recognizes she talks too much. She’s working on it… kind of.PPS: Erin’s still talking. Jenna’s still waiting. It’s fine. HigheHopesInstitute.com  - Biblical Counseling Certification Program, Family Life Education programs, and Continuing Education for Mental Health Professionals. HigherHopesOnline.com - Biblical Counseling online.HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    You Better Work Part 2 - Ep. 6

    In Part 2 of the You Better Work episode, Erin and Jenna roll up their sleeves to talk about work—not just the nine-to-five grind, but the holy, hard work God designed us for. With their usual mix of humor and heart, they explore why doing the tough stuff is often the very path to healing and holiness. Christian counselors will find practical takeaways for guiding clients through conversations about discipline, purpose, and perseverance. And for listeners? Expect to be challenged, encouraged, and maybe even inspired to make some bold changes in your own daily walk and mindset.Show Links mentioned in this episode: HigherHopesInstitute.com - for Christian Family Life, The Counselor Retreat in the fall of 2025, Clinical Continuing Education, and Biblical Counseling Certification information. HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    You Better Work - Ep. 5

    In this episode, we're brewing up a conversation straight from the pages of Psychology Today's September issue. Join us as we explore how children grow into fully developed humans and how both clinicians and parents can support that journey. And of course, we're throwing in a couple of fun coffee facts to keep things lively. Grab your favorite mug and settle in!Links:Psychology Today - Sept. 2025 Article  - Get Everything You Wanthttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/202509/get-everything-you-wantCoffee: This episode's coffee of choice: https://thebeancoffeecompany.com/collections/medium/products/organic-holiday-bean-vanilla-cinnamon-spiceSponsors:Higher Hopes Institute - HigherHopesInstitute.comHigher Hopes Counseling - HigherHopesCounseling.comHigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    Men & Tears

    Episode 4: Coffee Enemas, Men, Tears, and the Promised Land  In this episode of He Said It First, Erin and Jenna dive into some surprising and hilarious territory—yes, even coffee enemas—while weaving in thoughtful faith-based clinical insights for Christian counselors. Through laughter and lighthearted banter, the conversation opens the door to serious reflection on how Scripture guides us in addressing very real struggles that show up in the counseling room.  Together, they explore what men’s responses to tears reveal about emotional dynamics, why tears in session can either open or block access to deeper healing, and how God’s promises and actions point us toward restoration and freedom. As always, they bring Biblical truth to bear on practical, clinical challenges, reminding counselors that God’s Word speaks directly into the sacred work we do with clients.  Tune in for wisdom, humor, and encouragement that will both lighten your day and strengthen your practice as a Christian clinician.HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    He Said It First - Ep. 3 - Part 2 - Parenting Teens

    Join Jenna & Erin for Part 2 of the Parenting Teens and their review of what Psychology Today has to say about teens and parents! This episode includes the wisdom of Psalm 78, coffee, wisdom, and fun!HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    HSF Parenting Teen Part 1

    This episode (Part 1), Jenna reviews and comments on the July 2025 Article What Teens Need Most But Aren’t Getting From Parents by Donna Jackson Nakazawa from Psychology Today. This is great advice for parents of teens, but even more valuable for counselors who need to understand God's perspective on the things teens say they need most. Read the full article here:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/202507/the-overlooked-parenting-skills-kids-need-mostHigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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    He Said It First Ep. 1

    Welcome to the inaugural episode of He Said It First, a podcast created for Christian counselors and their clients. In this launch show, hosts Jenna Meister, LPC, and Dr. Erin Kincaid, BCBC, set the stage for a season filled with insight, humor, and truth. Together, they’ll explore articles from Psychology Today—and whatever else sparks their interest—through the lens of Biblical application. Join us as we uncover how timeless Scriptural truths speak directly into modern counseling practice, reminding us that God said it first, and He said it for our good.HigherHopesOnline.comHigherHopesInstitute.com

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Join Jenna Meister, LPC, and Dr. Erin Kincaid, BCBC, as they share practical interventions, meaningful activities, and timeless truths designed to strengthen both counselors and the clients they serve. Each episode invites you into conversations that bridge clinical wisdom with biblical truth, reminding us that every good principle of care was first spoken by God. Together, Jenna and Erin reveal how these truths are not only relevant for modern counseling but also life-giving for anyone seeking healing, growth, and hope.

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Erin Kincaid

Produced by Erin Kincaid, Jenna Meister

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