Hold On: Is That Really Christian?

What's that tattoo on Pete Hegseth's shoulder? What is his grand war plan? Dr. John Holbert and Kim Batchelor talk crusades history and how "War" Secretary Hegseth's rhetoric matches the reality of the Crusades. Past meets present in the guise of "Christian nationalism." Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

"Secretary of War" Pete Hegseth is known for incorporating Scripture into his pronouncements. But is it really Christian? In the first of a two-part series, Dr. John Holbert joins Kim Batchelor to discuss the religious nationalist movement that informs his beliefs and whether the Biblical verses he cites mean what he thinks they mean.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Ever had someone come up to you with a religious tract and ask if you've been saved? Most people believe that's what it means to evangelize, but Rev. Julie Harding and Kim Batchelor have other ideas of it's meaning, and want to reclaim that meaning in their interactions with others.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Hell may not be what you've been taught. Kim Batchelor and Mike Shofner use the book Hell Bent as a guide to discuss the many names of hell and clarify what does and does not get someone sent there.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

In March, 2026, a group gathered in front of the Federal Building in downtown Dallas where immigration hearings are held. Members of the group read from Scripture related to immigrants. This was the first Moral Third Thursday for immigrants.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

An interview with Dr. Deborah McNabb, PhD, an Ob-GYN, bioethicist, and one of the featured speakers at the January 10, 2026 Advocacy Event. Listen again or for the first time.Coming up in the next two weeks: Voices from the March Moral Third Thursdays Vigil for our immigrant neighbors; a conversation about hell.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

How is Good Friday connected to anti-semitism? (Or should it be?) What are the key details that are often left out of the story? Was the Roman Empire really so innocent when it comes to the crucifixion of Jesus? Rev. Mike House and Kim Batchelor continue their discussion of Good Friday.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

From the Passion of the Christ to Jesus Christ Superstar, the story of Jesus's crucifixion has appeared multiple times in popular culture. But are those portrayals the whole story? Rev. Mike House and Kim Batchelor discuss the broader environment where the crucifixion took place and how Jesus and his family is likely to have witnessed the brutal execution method when he was just a child. The crucifixion is definitely a critical part of Christianity, but the way the story has been turned against our Jewish siblings is most definitely not.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Christians have a built-in mandate to take it easy sometimes. So why is that so hard? Cindy Barnes and Kim Batchelor have a conversation about how to build rest into our lives, just like God did on that seventh day.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Do most Christians know how many Biblical passages call on us to treat  immigrants humanely? Kim discusses an upcoming monthly vigil in Dallas, an opportunity to witness and share the strong Biblical mandate for inviting in immigrants and treating them as the citizen.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

When it comes to mental health, how can churches do better? Guest host Mike Shofner, in conversation with Kim Batchelor, tells his own story and how churches can extend help and support their members. Kim shares her experience in mental health research when she witnessed how the stigma of depression and lack of resources result in unjust and unmerciful conditions for those experiencing mental health challenges.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

What if ICE in Minneapolis comes to Texas? What else must we do? Rev. Mara Bim in conversation with Kim discusses what is happening now in North Texas, what we may be facing in the future, and a victory for people of faith and community members in Hutchins, Texas.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Is what our government is doing in Minneapolis compatible with Christian teachings? The answer is an adamant 'NO.' Rev. Mara Bim provides a perspective from someone who was both in Minneapolis and Chicago, and it's only gotten worse.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Next Tuesday starts a new season of "Hold on. Is that really Christian?" Here are some of the topics we'll be taking on in the new season.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

As we face another challenging year for Christian values and compassion, listen to words of faith, justice, and mercy in a 2024 interview with Rev. Jim Wallis.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Mike Shofner returns to the podcast to talk with Kim about two different models of Christianity.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Kim interviews Dr. Deborah McNabb, MD, a bioethicist and OB-GYN, focusing on reprodutive justice issues.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

We explore Mary, the mother of Jesus, taking seriously what it might have meant for her to say “yes” to God and how her life can inspire us to be courageous followers of Jesus.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Rev. Mike House and Kim continue to discuss the two stories of Jesus's birth, this time focusing on the story in Luke.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Rev. Mike House and Kim focus on the story of Jesus's birth in Matthew and compare it to the one in Luke.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Shawn Fauver joins Kim to discuss communication between people with differing perspectives--what works, what doesn't. Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Kim interviews her friend and partner in Texas Impact advocacy Rev. Jody Harrison, with a focus on care for God's creation.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Executive director Bee Morehead returns to continue our conversation about how Texas Impact is making a difference in the Texas legislature.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

We welcome to our conversation Bee Morehead, executive director of Texas Impact. Bee lets us in on who Texas Impact is and how we can be involved with them.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Rev. Ben Marshall and Kim explore the facts about the book of Revelation.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

In this special Halloween episode, Kim explores the rapture and why being "left behind" may not mean what you think it means.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

This time we examine Mary Magdalene noting how she has been intentionally maligned. In the baseless attack on her character we can see a contemporary attack, without reason, on women today.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

We explore Mary, the mother of Jesus, taking seriously what it might have meant for her to say “yes” to God and how her life can inspire us to be courageous followers of Jesus.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Mike Shofner joins us as a guest on this episode. We talk about Mike’s background within evangelical churches, what he thinks about the Bible,  questions over biblical interpretation, and what any or all of this can teach us.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

This episode was recorded the day after Charlie Kirk was killed. We share what we were feeling that day and talk about Jesus’ call to nonviolent action.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Ron Wilhelm joins us for a conversation about what we need to know about immigration.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Revisit this earlier episode with us as Kim explains the intricacies of a current bill under consideration by the Texas legislature that could curtail religious rights of those who do not support abortion bans.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Kim and Kendra talk about the rise of violence in our society and how it is sometimes wrongly connected to biblical ideas.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Rev. Ben Marshall returns to our podcast to talk with Kim about the end times, the rapture and all the rest of it. Are these really real?Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Executive director Bee Morehead returns to continue our conversation about how Texas Impact is making a difference in the Texas legislature.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

We welcome to our conversation Bee Morehead, executive director of Texas Impact. Bee lets us in on who Texas Impact is and how we can be involved with them.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Kim and Kendra reflect on PRIDE 2025 and Northaven’s participation in it.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

We begin our conversation with the question raised in our national anthem and that leads us to reflect on spiritual practices and the process of discernment.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Ben Marshall returns with Kim to continue their discussion of the rise of executive power, disregard for law, and lack of care for people in light of the values of Christianity.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Shortly after participating in the No Kings rally in Dallas, Kim and Kendra talk about what the Hebrew Bible says about kings.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Ben Marshall joins Kim to talk about the rise of executive power, disregard for law, and lack of care for people in light of the values of Christianity.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Kendra and Kim explore some current books that dismiss and discount the virtue of empathy. They also talk about the difference between sympathy and empathy.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

We talk about J.D. Vance’s assertion about who Christians are called to love. Part of our conversation touches on the recent death of Pope Francis and the election of Pope Leo XIV.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Kim explains the intricacies of a current bill under consideration by the Texas legislature that could curtail religious rights of those who do not support abortion bans.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Kim and Kendra discuss Executive Order 1402 titled Eradicating Christian Bias. This new order contains 11 points and has been disseminated among several federal agencies. We have several questions about this effort and talk about some of them.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Kim informs us about the current situation (Senate and House bills) regarding abortion in the Texas legislature. We hope you’ll listen and then contact your representatives.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

This week, we explore how Kendra and Kim have experienced DEI programs in various work environments and explore these initiatives in light of the biblical witness.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

What does the Bible say about the relationships between the rich and poor? Does the Bible have anything to say about the structures of societies? Should Christians be concerned about the expanding gap between rich and poor?Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

We talk about reading and interpreting the Bible, one of our favorite subjects! Is it possible to avoid the literal vs. metaphor divide among us?Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].

Kim offers a refresher on the process of how a bill makes its way through the Texas legislature and provides information on how you can get your voice heard in Austin. We talk about what bills are currently being considered including those about reproductive justice and public education.Enjoyed this episode? Connect with us some more at Northaven.org!Follow us on Instagram and on Facebook!Have questions or comments? Want to suggest a topic? Send Kendra and Kim an email at [email protected].