Let’s Get Real with Stephen Jones

"I, Nephi . . . ." We’ve all read the beginning of the Book of Mormon. Lehi is warned. Nephi is sent back. Laban is drunk. The story moves fast and feels familiar. But what if we’ve been reading it without understanding the setting it's unfolding in? In this episode, I sit down with church historian and former "ex-Mormon" atheist Don Bradley to explore a clue hiding in plain sight, one that tells us more about the "lost 116 pages" and reframes how we see the Book of Mormon's entire opening sequence - and the book itself. Not by changing its meaning, but by grounding it in its original sacred context. The beginning of the Book of Mormon isn't just happening randomly. It’s taking place during a specific moment in the Jewish calendar, a festival setting that adds layers of clarity to what’s happening and why, refocusing the story from being about Lehi's escape from Jerusalem to being about your own deliverance and the redemption of the world. Once you see it, the timing, the tension, and even the actions of key figures start to come into sharper focus. We don’t just revisit the story. We slow it down, connect the dots, and explore what was there all along. If you’ve ever felt like there’s more going on in the scriptures than what’s on the surface, this conversation will change how you read them. - - - - - - - - - - The Lost 116 Pages: Reconstructing the Book of Mormon's Missing Stories https://www.amazon.com/Lost-116-Pages-Reconstructing-Mormons/dp/158958760X "A Passover Setting for Lehi's Exodus," published in Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Scripture https://interpreterfoundation.org/journal/a-passover-setting-for-lehis-exodus

Most people don't walk away from their faith in a dramatic moment. They don't deconstruct overnight. They slowly stop caring. In this episode of Let’s Get Real, I sit down with David Snell from  @keystonelds   to talk about the quiet threat that is pulling more people away than doubt or hard questions. What happens when your faith was built on other people and they let you down? What do you do when belief stops feeling simple and starts becoming complicated? Why do so many people get stuck right there? We talk about why apathy matters more than controversy, the difference between borrowed belief and personal conviction, and how faith naturally moves through stages of simplicity and complexity. We also break down why testimony is something that must be built over time instead of relying on a single answer. This is not a conversation about easy solutions. It is about what actually holds when things get difficult. If you have ever felt your faith drifting, this episode will help you understand why and what you can do about it.

Some think healing means being kind, moving on, and keeping the peace. But what if that approach is actually keeping people stuck? We’re taught to avoid discomfort. We’re taught not to make things worse. We’re taught that compassion means letting things go. But over time, the same pain keeps coming back, and the same wounds never fully heal. In this conversation, author and victim's advocate Sage Williams challenges that idea. Real healing is not about pretending the past didn’t happen. It is not about avoiding hard things. It is about bringing things into the light, telling the truth about what is there, and embracing accountability, even when it feels uncomfortable. Sometimes healing feels worse before it gets better. That does not mean something is wrong. It may mean you are finally facing what is real. We talk about why being nice can sometimes make things worse, why accountability is often misunderstood, and what it actually looks like to heal in a way that lasts. This is not the easiest path. But it might be the most honest one. Buy Sage's book:  https://www.deseretbook.com/product/6078641.html?srsltid=AfmBOor7biC4Pbce5FJ1sW5ok_bbDK9p8G4MHryQYoZTUcIJlGJpEcdP https://a.co/d/044Hl04v

Many people think faith is declining. Ben Hancock has worked behind the scenes on one of the world’s top podcasts, alongside voices like Chris Williamson of "Modern Wisdom" and interacting with some of the most influential thinkers in media. From the inside, he noticed something unexpected. Not open hostility, but a quiet dismissal of faith in certain elite circles. At the same time, he is seeing something very different on the ground, especially among young people. Not decline. A quiet return. In this episode, we explore: • What it is like being a Latter-day Saint inside high-level media circles • The gap between elite perception and lived reality • Why the “faith is dying” narrative does not tell the full story • What might actually be happening right now If you have ever wondered whether faith is really disappearing, this conversation will challenge what you think you know.

Temple changes don’t just appear overnight. They are often preceded by thoughtful conversations in leadership councils where perspectives are shared and revelation is sought. In this episode of Let’s Get Real, former Relief Society General President Jean B. Bingham offers a rare glimpse into those councils, including discussions that helped refine temple language to reduce misunderstandings and better reflect gospel truths. She also shares what it was like to work with apostles and prophets, and how revelation unfolds through careful deliberation, unity, and spiritual insight. The conversation explores how Church leaders, including President Dallin H. Oaks, have emphasized the value of women and helped deepen understanding of priesthood power in the lives of all covenant keepers. This episode offers a thoughtful look at how the Lord leads His Church, how sacred decisions are made, and why the voices and contributions of women matter.

Which chapter of scripture includes a vision of God, an attempted human sacrifice, and a phrase many believe justified a racial priesthood ban? And have we been reading it wrong? When Abraham 1 describes Pharaoh as “cursed as pertaining to the priesthood,” what did that actually mean? Was it about race? Was it restriction? Or have later generations read their own assumptions back into the text? Latter-day Saint historian, Don Bradley, explores how Abraham 1 reshapes our understanding of Abraham’s story, why he was nearly sacrificed, and what Joseph Smith may have understood about Pharaoh’s “curse” that radically challenges modern interpretations. What if the passage that has caused so much confusion and pain was never saying what we thought it was?

The prophet Brigham Young did not become controversial because he was simple. He became controversial because we stopped allowing complex people from the past to be understood as human beings. In this conversation, Dr. Dan Peterson, noted Latter-day Saint scholar and historian, helps us follow one question from beginning to end: What do we lose morally, culturally, and spiritually when we replace understanding with judgment? Brigham Young is often reduced to labels. Authoritarian. Racist. The “fall guy.” A symbol to argue over. But history is rarely that tidy. As the discussion unfolds, Brigham shifts from being a lightning rod in modern debates to a real human life shaped by faith, pressure, frontier leadership, blind spots, loyalty to Joseph Smith, and deep devotion to building Zion. But this conversation is not only about Brigham Young. It is about us. About how we judge. About how we interpret the past, and what's lost when we're quicker to judge than to understand.

What if the Bible’s most dangerous distortions don’t come from bad intentions, but from skipping its preface? Many people experience faith as exhausting. Commandments feel heavy. Scripture feels fragmented. And belief slowly collapses into rules. This conversation challenges a core assumption: that the Bible explains itself from page one. Without a restored frame of identity—without knowing who you are before being told what to do—the Bible can be misunderstood, misused, and even weaponized. This episode reframes the Old Testament through a single, often-overlooked key that changes how scripture reads, how God is understood, and why faith so often turns into burnout. If you’ve ever felt tension between obedience and relationship, this conversation may change how you read everything that comes next. If you'd like to support our content, consider making a donation. https://scripturecentral.org/donate

What if the reason you’re not seeing miracles is that your goals don’t require them? Blake Erickson details a counterintuitive principle taught in the restored gospel: God gets involved when your goals are bigger than what you can accomplish on your own. From missions and business to family, faith, and personal growth, Blake shares why “realistic” goals often keep us spiritually stagnant and how setting goals that force dependence on God changes everything. This isn’t about hustle. It’s not prosperity theology. And it’s not passive faith. It’s about aligning ambition with belief, letting go of control, and discovering why miracles tend to show up only after faith is stretched. If you’ve ever felt stuck, if you’ve wondered why effort alone isn’t enough, or if you’re trying to live your faith as a Latter-day Saint in a demanding world, this conversation will challenge how you think about goals, faith, and what it really means to “let God in.” If you'd like to support our content, consider making a donation. https://scripturecentral.org/donate

Every day, millions of people around the world are turning to FamilySearch, not because of marketing or trends, but because of something much deeper happening beneath the surface: a global movement of identity, belonging, and human connection. In this conversation with Elder Kevin S. Hamilton, former Executive Director of the Family History Department of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we explore why 98 percent of the people who use FamilySearch are not Latter-day Saints, yet are contributing to one of the most ambitious projects in human history: building the family tree of humanity. This is not just a story about genealogy. It is a story about roots, memory, resilience, and what unfolds when technology, spirituality, and human longing intersect. Inside this episode, you will learn: • Why hundreds of millions use FamilySearch every year  • How global archives, AI tools, and more than 130 years of record gathering fuel the world’s largest family history database  • The emotional science behind family narratives and resilience  • How wars, disasters, and endangered archives have created urgent preservation efforts  • Why nonreligious users are powering a movement with profound spiritual implications  • What “gathering Israel” looks like in the digital age  • How African oral genealogies, Ukrainian archives, and worldwide records are reshaping family identity This episode is for anyone who has ever wondered: “Where do I come from?”  “Who do I belong to?”  “And why does family history matter now more than ever?” Whether you are religious or not, whether you have used FamilySearch or are hearing about it for the first time, this conversation looks at what it means to be human and why the world is suddenly flocking to discover its story. If you'd like to support our content, consider making a donation. https://scripturecentral.org/donate

Have you ever wondered how the early Saints understood the temple? Or what the Kirtland Temple dedication can teach us about Christ today? In this conversation, Don Bradley walks through some simple but powerful connections between the temple, scripture, and the Savior. He also shares openly about his time away from the Church, his involvement in the "ex-Mormon" community, and the experiences that led him back to faith. This episode isn’t dramatic or sensational — it’s just thoughtful, clear, and centered on Christ. I’m grateful for Don’s honesty and the insights he brought to this discussion.

Section 132 of the Doctrine and Covenants is one of the most talked about and debated revelations in scripture. Some people say it just doesn’t sound like Joseph Smith, which has left a lot of questions about who actually wrote it. Dr. Paul Fields, an expert in stylometry — the statistical study of writing style — joins Stephen Jones to take the emotion out of the debate and look at the evidence. Using data, history, and faith, he puts this revelation to the test to find out who really wrote Section 132. What he discovered might not just answer a question about authorship. It might change the way we think about revelation itself. Knowhy: https://scripturecentral.org/knowhy/what-does-the-science-of-stylometry-indicate-about-the-authorship-of-doctrine-and-covenants-132

It blew our minds when we found out this connection President Oaks has to church history. Don Bradley—a Latter-day Saint historian who once left the Church and became an atheist, then found his way back—joins us to talk about some mind-blowing connections between Martin Harris and President Dallin H. Oaks. Don walks us through hidden pieces of Church history that show how God’s hand was moving in more people than just Joseph Smith. We talk about Martin Harris’s early revelations before the Church was even organized, the meaning behind the Feast of Tabernacles, and how those same patterns show up again with President Oaks. It’s one of those conversations that makes you realize the Restoration isn’t just a story from the past. It’s still unfolding today.

What’s it really like to sit across from a living prophet and give him feedback on his words? In this episode of Let’s Get Real with Stephen Jones, Sister Reyna I. Aburto, former Second Counselor in the Relief Society General Presidency, opens up about her deeply personal experiences with President Russell M. Nelson—moments that changed how she sees revelation, leadership, and discipleship forever. She shares what it felt like the day President Nelson unexpectedly invited her and the other sisters of the presidency into his office to read and critique his upcoming talk—“Sisters’ Participation in the Gathering of Israel.” From his humility and love to the way he truly listened, Sister Aburto saw firsthand how revelation unfolds at the highest levels of the Church. She also reflects on her gratitude for President Dallin H. Oaks, the tenderness behind his often “stern” demeanor, and her confidence that the Lord continues to guide His Church through inspired servants.

What’s it really like to observe a prophet of God receiving revelation? In this powerful episode, former Young Women General President Elaine S. Dalton shares her deeply personal experiences with President Russell M. Nelson.  She shares her personal glimpse into the heart of a prophet. She recalls the piercing blue eyes that seemed to see straight through to her soul, the counsel he gave about identity and virtue, and the quiet but transformative moments that confirmed for her that he was called of God. This is more than just memories of a prophet—it is a witness of Jesus Christ. Sister Dalton testifies of the ways President Nelson pointed her, and all of us, back to the Savior, reminding us of our divine identity, the power of covenants, and the confidence we can have in Christ. Her stories pull back the curtain on what it feels like to be in the room when revelation is received, and why those moments changed her life forever.

Among many other things, President Nelson forever transformed the way we see temples. But what happens before temples are announced? Former Executive Director of the Temple Department, Elder Larry Y. Willson shares remarkable behind-the-scenes experiences of working closely with President Russell M. Nelson. Elder Wilson recounts the pivotal moment when President Nelson, newly called as prophet, looked at a carefully crafted 15-year temple plan and boldly said, “I would feel better about your plan if there were another zero.” That prophetic vision transformed temple building from dozens to hundreds, reshaping the Church’s future forever. Alongside these historic insights, Elder Wilson also shares deeply personal stories of President Nelson’s ministry—from his surprising text messages of encouragement during times of illness, to his genuine warmth and consultative leadership style in councils.  Come listen to firsthand accounts of how President Nelson balanced global leadership with individual, personal ministry. This episode gives a rare and intimate look at how revelation, leadership, and love guided the Church during a period of historic change.

What does faithfulness look like when life doesn’t go according to plan?  In this episode, Skyler Sorensen—a father, content creator, and producer at Scripture Central—shares his journey through same-sex attraction, marriage, and the heartbreaking loss of his son, Milo. He explains why same-sex attraction wasn’t his greatest trial, how (besides his Savior) his temple marriage became his greatest strength, and how grief brought unexpected clarity to his faith. This conversation explores what it truly means to stay on the covenant path when life becomes complex, and why the gospel can be profoundly simple amidst loss.  In This Episode:  • Why Skyler believes faith is still worth choosing  • How grief can deepen, not destroy, testimony  • Why ideals matter even when we fall short  • What the balance of grace and truth looks like in real life  • How marriage and family can be both messy and divine Skyler’s new series with Scripture Central: Faithful Anyway: Discipleship Through Complexity https://www.youtube.com/@sitdownwithsky

When most people think about humanitarian work, they think about money. But is there more to it?  Sharon Eubank, director of Latter-day Saint Charities, believes that the real power to change lives comes from something much deeper. In this episode, Sharon shares her experiences working in places devastated by war, poverty, and natural disasters. From standing at the wreckage of the Sri Lanka tsunami to learning from everyday acts of kindness in her own neighborhood, she reveals that the gospel of Jesus Christ carries a greater capacity to transform lives than money ever could. True humanitarianism begins with listening, respecting agency, and offering dignity.  Whether you’ve wondered how you can make a difference in the world or in your own community, this conversation will help you see that the most powerful humanitarian work begins right where you live.

What would make a 7-year-old Joseph Smith refuse alcohol before undergoing one of the most excruciating surgeries imaginable—decades before the Word of Wisdom was ever revealed? Once an ex-LDS atheist, now a faithful Latter-day Saint and renowned Joseph Smith expert, Don Bradley shares one of the most powerful discoveries he’s ever made about Joseph’s life.  This isn’t just another “Joseph Smith refused alcohol” story—it’s a window into his character and the cultural and historical context most people have never heard. Don opens up about the heartbreaking loss of his own young son—and how that experience gave him a deeply personal window into Joseph Smith’s life, particularly Joseph’s own experiences as a child and as a father. That shared lens of love, loss, and empathy adds a profound human dimension to both the history and the man behind it. We also explore Don’s personal faith journey—leaving the Church, the discoveries that shaped his perspective, and the path that ultimately led him back. From Church history to raw personal experiences, this conversation is real, unfiltered, and full of insights that could change the way you see Joseph Smith and the Restoration.

Everyone says Gen Z is leaving religion… but what if they’re actually leading a spiritual revival? In this episode of Faithful Anyway, I sit down with David Butler to talk about what’s really going on with today’s rising generation. Are they rebelling against faith—or are they spiritually starving for something deeper, more real, and more rooted in who God really is? We unpack the misconceptions, the pain points, and the surprising hunger that so many young people have for truth, grace, and connection with God. If you’ve ever wondered whether faith is dying or being reborn in a new form, this conversation is for you.

Dr. Marcus Martins made history as the first Black missionary to serve after the 1978 revelation that extended the priesthood to all worthy male members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But that’s not what he wants to be known for. In this conversation, Dr. Martins opens up about something far more personal and powerful: his quiet, steady choice to follow Christ, even when some questions didn’t have answers. He didn’t stay in the Church because he ignored the hard things. He stayed because he saw something true—something deep—in the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. Something that spoke to both his spirit and his intellect. This episode isn’t about rehashing history. It’s about what it means to be a disciple—when it’s not flashy, when it’s not easy, and when faith has to walk ahead of clarity. We talk about the difference between doubts and questions. About how real belonging looks in a Church that’s still growing. And about the power of remembering the moments when the Spirit whispered, “You’re home.” Listen to the full conversation and let us know what stood out to you most.

Many faithful Saints silently wrestle with the same question: “Why do I still feel broken?” In this powerful episode, Dr. Kawika Allen unpacks the hidden spiritual struggle of scrupulosity—anxiety disguised as righteousness—and how it convinces even the most devoted disciples that they’re never enough. What if the reason you feel unworthy isn’t because you’ve failed, but because you’ve been trying to earn what was never meant to be earned? We explore the toxic grip of maladaptive perfectionism, the lies it tells, and the liberating truth that Christ’s grace meets us in our mess—not after we’ve cleaned it up. If faith has started to feel more like a burden than a blessing, this conversation will help you rediscover the rest and relief that comes from receiving, not performing for, the Savior’s love.

Is fatherhood just underappreciated, or is it under attack? Thirty years ago, The Family: A Proclamation to the World declared that fathers are to preside, provide, and protect. Today, fatherhood is mocked, minimized, or erased altogether. We’ve gone quiet—afraid the truth is too controversial, the standard too high, the damage already done. But Dr. Tim Rarick makes a powerful case: the world doesn’t need perfect dads—it needs present ones. The Proclamation isn’t a list of impossible expectations. It’s a rescue plan, a reminder of who we are, and who we’re meant to become. Because the more fathers stay silent to avoid failure, the more we contribute to the very collapse we were called to prevent.

In a culture that’s delaying, rejecting, and redefining marriage, what’s keeping young people from the relationships they deeply want? BYU professor Dr. Brian Willoughby breaks down the hidden fears, mixed messages, and spiritual confusion behind modern dating and what the restored gospel can uniquely offer. We discuss: Why marriage and family are being delayed—or avoided altogether The concept of “Me-Marriage” and how we can avoid it How our culture of individualism and “on-demand” connection is eroding real intimacy The quiet consequences of rejecting eternal family structures Why covenant sacrifice still leads to the deepest fulfillment This conversation is a wake-up call and a message of hope. The doctrine hasn’t changed—but our culture has.

What if the very thing you prayed would go away… is actually God’s invitation to know Him better? Ron Squire was living the life he planned, until a fall left him paralyzed and full of doubt. His faith didn’t feel like enough. But through the unlikely lens of Viktor Frankl, and a God who doesn’t waste suffering, Ron discovered something deeper: Pain isn’t punishment. It’s a privilege. And when you stop running from it… You might just find the faith you’ve been missing.

Why do people lose their faith? Psychologist and BYU-I professor, Dr. Jeffrey Thayne, uncovers the deeper desires shaping our beliefs. Challenging the assumption that logic alone drives our convictions, Jeffrey reveals how moral intuitions, molded by our communities and culture, hold the key to navigating faith and doubt. Unlocking these answers can strengthen our own faith and help us better navigate relationships with those who have stepped away.

Most of us celebrate the Resurrection but quietly avoid the Crucifixion. Why? In this vulnerable and eye-opening conversation, John Hilton III shares how facing Christ’s suffering can unlock a deeper connection to His love, His power, and His victory over death. If you’ve ever felt distant from Jesus, this episode will change how you see Him—and how you feel about your covenant connection with Him.

What happens when everything you believe suddenly unravels? Austin Fife (Light and Truth Letter) shares his deeply personal journey through faith, doubt, and rediscovery. From powerful spiritual experiences to moments of uncertainty, Austin opens up about what led him to question his beliefs—and what ultimately brought him back. Austin shares the moment he realized he no longer believed in God, his wife’s unexpected response to that revelation, and the answers to hard questions that renewed his faith.

What happens when faith and Hollywood collide? Early in his career, actor Scott Christopher promised the Lord that he would be open about his faith at all times and in all circumstances. Keeping that promise opened up conversations and opportunities he never expected. In this episode of Let’s Get Real with Stephen Jones, Scott Christopher shares his incredible journey—from childhood dreams of performing to landing a major role in an Amazon Prime series. But along the way, he faced an unexpected challenge that tested his values and changed everything. He also opens up about his overall experience in the entertainment industry, what keeps him centered in his faith, and the defining moments that shaped his career. Can you stay true to your beliefs in Hollywood?

Did the Book of Mormon Witnesses Really See the Gold Plates? What if the most controversial testimonies in Latter-day Saint history weren’t just words—but undeniable evidence of something far bigger? In this episode of Let's Get Real, historian Don Bradley—who once left his faith but later returned—tackles the hardest, most controversial questions head-on: Were the Three and Eight Witnesses deceived? Were they part of a fabrication? Or did they really see the gold plates? Don reveals hidden details that change everything you thought you knew about their testimonies—not just as proof of an ancient record, but as witnesses of the Resurrected Christ. Because in the end, it’s not just about their testimony—it’s about ours. You might think you know the story—but once you see this evidence, you’ll never look at their testimonies the same way again.

What lies behind the financial success of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Church Historian Casey Griffiths seeks to challenge common assumptions—that the Church's wealth is secretive, excessive, and mismanaged. He helps us understand that the Law of Consecration, a principle rooted in unity and faith, is the cornerstone of its financial practices, guiding its mission and humanitarian efforts worldwide. We discuss common misconceptions, the balance between saving and giving, and why the Church operates differently from other religious organizations. If you’ve ever wondered where tithing funds go, why the Church invests in businesses, or how financial decisions align with spiritual principles, this conversation is for you.

Pres. Nelson’s Call to Women About Priesthood Power Is More Urgent Than Ever, Dr. Barbara Gardner | E0026 Let’s be real: there’s a lot of confusion when it comes to women and priesthood power. And that confusion? It’s holding way too many women back from fully stepping into their divine potential. In this episode, Dr. Barbara Morgan Gardner, BYU Religion Professor, is here to cut through the misconceptions and get to the heart of what priesthood power really means for women—and how it can completely change the way you see your role in God’s plan. We’re not shying away from the big questions: What does priesthood power actually mean for you as a woman? How can understanding it help you step up in your home, community, and the kingdom of God? And what’s stopping us from embracing this power fully? --- Get help answering some of life's most challenging questions with Let’s Get Real with Stephen Jones. This @scripturecentralofficial original series offers practical insights and ways to navigate life's challenges and heaviest questions. --- Disclaimer: THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF THE INDIVIDUAL CREATORS AND GUESTS ALONE AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REPRESENT THE OFFICIAL POSITION OF SCRIPTURE CENTRAL OR THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Can Horror Bring Us Closer to God? Michaelbrent Collings on Heretic and Redemption | E0025 On this episode of Let's Get Real with Stephen Jones, Bestselling Latter-day Saint author Michaelbrent Collings joins us to explore the bold intersection of belief and fear. Micahelbrent gives his take on the horror film Heretic with Hugh Grant, challenges societal stigmas, unravels the complexities of storytelling, and reveals how horror can build empathy, foster community, and inspire redemption. --- CHAPTERS 00:00 - Intro 01:05 - "Why is the Heretic so controversial, in your opinion?" 06:34 - Is there an ethical responsibility in storytelling? 11:28 - "How did you get into this world? | Michaelbrent's Personal Journey Into Horror Writing 29:33 - "I Didn't Want to Be a Writer" 43:07 - 'How could you write something like this?' | Understanding Reactions to Horror 1:18:20 - "Because of my mental problems, I spend time thinking God hates me." 2:02:41 - Michaelbrent's review of Heretic and How We Can Use Horror to Build Bridges of Empathy --- Let’s Get Real" with Stephen Jones on Scripture Central confronts the clever tactics of the adversary head-on, offering a raw, transparent, and faith-filled exploration of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ and the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In a media landscape often skewed against truth, the show balances the conversation with compelling reasons to believe, featuring real-life stories, expert insights, and audience engagement while challenging assumptions in a world where lies and truths spread rapidly. --- Disclaimer: THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF THE INDIVIDUAL CREATORS AND GUESTS ALONE AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REPRESENT THE OFFICIAL POSITION OF SCRIPTURE CENTRAL OR THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS.

Why These 3 Worldviews Are Leading People Away from God and Faith | Jeffery Thayne, Latter-day Saint E0024 On this episode of Let's Get Real with Stephen Jones, join our conversation with Psychology Professor Dr. Jeffery Thayne, who believes, "We often have very little idea what various world views are shaping our faith, our questions, our doubts, our convictions. These worldviews invariably frame the questions that we ask." Does the Gospel work for me? This question, rooted in what we treasure most, reveals four competing worldviews—self-expression, prosperity, personal fulfillment, or redemption. Each worldview promises different outcomes, yet many find disappointment when life’s challenges interrupt their plans. The Gospel of Jesus Christ, however, offers a deeper, more transformative solution. By valuing reconciliation with God above all, we shift from seeking outward success to inner transformation. The Gospel of Jesus Christ works not by removing obstacles but by shaping who we become, offering lasting peace and purpose regardless of life’s circumstances. BIO: Dr. Jeffery Thayne graduated from Brigham Young University with a bachelor's degree in psychology. He continued his graduate studies, earning a master's degree in psychology and a doctorate in instructional technology and learning sciences from Utah State University. He is a faculty member in the Department of Psychology at BYU-Idaho.   “Let’s Get Real with Stephen Jones” is a Scripture Central original production.  

Why are Latter-day Saints often portrayed so negatively in pop culture? We sat down with Jasmin Rappleye from Scripture Plus to uncover why that may be and determine what we can do about it. A few years ago, Jasmin noticed an influx of negative content about the church on platforms like TikTok. Seeing this rise in critical content galvanized her to do what she could to add more positive messages to the conversation. With the support of Scriptures Central and a passion for the truth, Jasmin crafts engaging content that cuts through the noise, helping others navigate the digital landscape and find clarity in a world where good and evil are often blurred. During our conversation, we also explore why critics portray our temple ceremonies in as sinister a light as possible and how we can combat that trend. Subscribe to Scripture Central's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@scripturecentralofficial

What is the ideal family? How can we shoot for the ideal while leaving room for those who can’t meet it? Jenet Erickson is a BYU professor and researcher. She walks us through the unique roles mothers and fathers play in shaping their children’s lives. Jenet shares how these eternal roles stem from something deeper than tradition. We also talk about the effects of fragmented families and what we can do to create stronger, more connected homes.

How can Christ help us forgive those who have wronged us in the most egregious ways? As a young, Muslim girl in Iran, Shima Baughman’s mom was betrayed by a family member and sent to one of the world’s worst prisons in the middle of a war-torn country. Shima shares how her family has navigated the deep wounds of betrayal. Can she and her family forgive the woman who betrayed her mom?

If you, or someone you love, has struggled to reconcile complex church history, join us in our conversation with Dr. Steven C Harper. Exploring the mystery of multiple First Vision accounts, Stephen Jones sits down with BYU Professor Dr. Steven Harper, a renowned historian and expert on Latter-day Saint history. They unravel the reasons behind the discrepancies and shed light on the broader implications for faith and history, guiding us toward a deeper understanding of this foundational event. ------ Credits: Hosted by Stephen Jones Written and Produced by Stephen Jones Edited and Produced by Skyler Sorensen “Let’s Get Real with Stephen Jones” is a Scripture Central original production.

BYU President Shane Reese has been in his role for a year now. We had a lot of questions for him. Is there anything he’d do differently? What is BYU's "divinely established" mission? What's at stake if BYU doesn't fulfill its mission? What is the current student experience, and how can we improve it? We discuss President Reese’s hard time acclimating as a new student at BYU, what it’s like to report to General Authorities, and his hopes for the future of BYU. If you enjoyed this episode, consider subscribing on your platform of choice.  

For episode 18, I get real with Grammy Award-winning vocal director Mauli Bonner.  After uncovering controversial and lesser-known stories about Black pioneers of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Mauli, feeling embarrassed about his ignorance, is inspired to become a film writer and director. His mission: To craft an enlightening film that breaks the silence. Despite facing societal hesitation to confront painful, controversial histories, Mauli aims to use the film's proceeds to fund a monument at This is the Place, transforming his newfound knowledge into a beacon of awareness and reconciliation.  

In E17 of Let's Get Real with Stephen Jones, Dr. John Thompson tackles a topic that's often misunderstood: the concept of "curses" within sacred texts, especially regarding Latter-day Saint teachings. He explains that what some might interpret as racial curses in scripture, like those mentioned in the Book of Abraham, is about something entirely different. John S. Thompson is an acclaimed Egyptologist with a rich background in ancient scriptures and modern religious studies, including a Ph.D. from the University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Thompson has dedicated his life to exploring the depths of ancient Egyptian culture and the Hebrew Bible. He has served in diverse religious communities and even participated on Harvard's executive board of university chaplains. The Book of Abraham, sometimes misused to support racial worldviews within Latter-day Saint history, actually discusses "curses" in terms of legal disinheritance, not racial inferiority. These "curses" imply a temporary loss of spiritual blessings or inheritance due to non-compliance with divine laws, applicable to anyone regardless of race.  This interpretation clarifies Joseph Smith's revelations, highlighting that divine blessings are inherited through adherence to covenantal lineage, as seen in ancient scriptures and modern practices like temple sealings.  Understanding these concepts helps avoid misinterpretations of sacred texts, emphasizing that spiritual disinheritance is reversible through gospel obedience. This concise understanding encourages and focuses on universal themes of redemption and the potential for all to inherit divine promises.

I sat down with Dr. John Hilton III and discussed the FBI investigation that proves Joseph Smith DIDN'T write the Book of Mormon. From this episode, you will learn how stylometry, the same method that unmasked the Unabomber, unveils the complex tapestry of voices within the BOM, suggesting a divine collaboration beyond Joseph Smith's capacity. You will learn of Joseph Smith's translation process, highlighting his divine gift and the remarkable efficiency with which the BOM was translated, reinforcing our appreciation for this sacred text. John Hilton III is an associate professor of Ancient Scripture at BYU.  Together, we explore the Book of Mormon (BOM) through the lens of stylometry and faith. With a Master's degree from Harvard and a Ph.D. from BYU in Education, John brings a unique blend of academic rigor and spiritual insight to the study of the BOM, as showcased in his work, "Voices in the Book of Mormon." Hilton shares personal reflections and insights from applying his grandfather's research, enhancing his faith and understanding of the BOM's spiritual messages.

On this episode of Let's Get Real with Stephen Jones, I sat down with Jennifer Roach, a licensed mental health Therapist and Senior Research Associate at FAIR Latter-day Saints.  From an ordained Anglican Pastor to a passionate mental health therapist in the LDS community. Overcoming her own traumatic experiences in high school at the hands of her church pastor, Jennifer now offers her expertise to support trauma survivors. She shares her personal story and research, providing invaluable perspectives on preventing abuse. Her narrative is both enlightening and poignant, serving as a guide to resilience and self-protection.  Listener Discretion: The content includes references to past abuse. Listen and learn how we can collectively foster safer environments. 

E0014 of Let's Get Real with Stephen Jones features Brother Bradley Wilcox, First Counselor in the General Young Men's Presidency, of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Brother Wilcox shares how his early life experiences, including his childhood in Ethiopia, have shaped his unique perspective on life's most challenging questions.In this thought-provoking episode, Brother Wilcox takes us through his journey from his early days in EFY to his role in the General Young Men Presidency of the LDS Church.  Discover how he manages to balance a demanding professional life with a spiritually fulfilling calling, and the impact FSY is having on the rising generation to help them overcome their heaviest challenges.We also discuss common misconceptions about God's grace, faith, and repentance, offering new insights into these spiritual concepts. Whether you're seeking guidance, inspiration, or a deeper understanding of faith, this episode is for you.

Don Bradley speaks candidly about why he left and came back to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

In this episode, Stephen talks to LDS Polygamy and Joseph Smith Historian, Don Bradley, and discusses why he left and came back to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Stephen sits down with Dr. John S.K. Kauwe III and discusses his unique path to becoming BYU–Hawaii's youngest president while balancing faith, science, and service at the same time.

If you ever feel hopeless, watch until Elder Bednar gives his advice about hope and how to find it. The conversation gets really deep. Elder Bednar, an apostle of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, previously never imagined there would be a temple in Bentonville, Arkansas, in his lifetime. Elder Bednar answers questions about the special significance of the Bentonville, Arkansas Temple to him and his family, what he hopes people understand about worshiping in temples, what encourages and gives him hope for the future, and more.

We connect with @AshleyHessMusic of @thekingwillcome and a memorable finalist from American Idol 2019. Discover Ashley's unique journey, from her transition from being a dental hygienist to a recognized performer, and the unexpected path she treads after leaving the American Idol stage. Post-Idol, Ashley's experience was not just about the music. She opens up about feeling isolated, the challenges she faced, and the spiritual transformation she underwent. Hear her candid account of wrestling with her faith, her poignant experience of hitting rock bottom, and the surprising realization of God's constant presence in her life. We also explore Ashley's creative process as she shares how her spiritual journey influenced her songwriting, leading to a unique collaboration where she considers God a co-producer. This conversation provides a window into Ashley Hess's life, her spiritual revelations, and how these experiences have shaped her music.​

Controversial Allegations Against the "Mormon" Church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints): Exploring the Truth Behind the Headlines This episode is an analysis and discussion with Aaron Miller, an expert in non-profit management and ethics. He is a professor at Brigham Young University and co-author of The Business Ethics Field Guide and The $100 Billion ‘Mormon Church’ Story: A Contextual Analysis.