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Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Mission Stories, Shawn is joined by Sister Anna Gray, who recently returned from serving in the Mexico City North Mission. Anna shares how a mission transformed her from a "routine" churchgoer into a disciple who is truly "on fire" for the gospel. The conversation centers on the profound power of the sacrament and the reality of the Atonement in everyday life.OpeningAnna arrives home with a palpable joy that Shawn likens to the experience of Enos in the Book of Mormon—a transition from a secular or "lukewarm" life to one that hungers for God. The core transformation discussed is the move from "casual" to "careful" discipleship, specifically regarding how one approaches the sacrament of the Lord's Supper. Anna teaches that the primary goal of missionary work isn't just to "get people to church," but to lead them to a covenant encounter with Jesus Christ through the sacrament.BodyMeeting Jesus at the Altar The turning point for Anna’s own conversion occurred when her mission president challenged her to study the Doctrine of Christ and the sacrament with new intensity. She moved from a "routine" participation to a state where she felt she was truly "meeting" and "communing" with the Savior each week. Anna shares that when she sits in the pew, she imagines Jesus Christ is right next to her, thanking her for showing up.Wendy and the "Home" Feeling Anna recounts the story of Wendy, a woman who stopped the missionaries on the street and was desperate to have her family baptized. Despite a motorcycle accident on the way to their first church meeting in years, Wendy’s family arrived bloody and bruised because she understood that she was there to "see Jesus". Wendy’s young son perfectly described the feeling of the Spirit at church as "going home". Through Wendy’s long process of repentance, Anna witnessed the sacrament serving as a purifying "hug" and a way to "unpack a backpack of heavy rocks".The Skater Kid and the Font During church tours, Anna would lead people straight to the sacrament table and the baptismal font, explaining that these are not just symbols, but manifestations of the power of godliness. She shares the story of Herardo, a 17-year-old skater who was initially quiet and reserved. After seeing a video of the Savior’s baptism and standing by the open font, the Spirit "penetrated" his heart, leaving him in awe and ready to commit to baptism himself.The Specific Miracle: A Family of Four Perhaps the most striking story is Anna’s month-long quest to find a "family of four". After dropping to her knees and making a specific request to the Lord, she and her companion fasted, prayed, and worked tirelessly in an area where no one had previously been taught. After the entire ward joined in a fast, they found exactly what they had asked for in the very last house of a "hopeless" street. Anna testifies that this was a direct answer to a specific prayer, teaching her that God is truly a God of miracles.ClosingThe episode concludes with an invitation to move away from "lukewarm" or "casual" religious habits and instead live an "intentional" and "careful" life. Anna encourages listeners to "meet Jesus" at the altar every week, recognizing the sacrament as a sacred communion rather than a box to be checked. Shawn reinforces that the joy Anna exudes is the natural result of a life built on the foundation of the Atonement and a "mighty change of heart".

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn welcomes Megan Roberts Thomas, who served in the Trujillo Peru Mission. Once a self-described "punk kid," Megan shares her transformation into an ambitious and consecrated disciple who learned to see the hand of God in the smallest details of missionary life. The conversation centers on the shift from a "lukewarm" or "casual" approach to the gospel to a "careful," intentional faith that allows a missionary to become a true instrument in the Lord's hands.The Power of Ten Minutes: The Story of JuanMegan highlights the principle that God often provides miracles after a trial of faith or a demonstration of diligence. After a "super tough week," Megan and her companion felt the temptation to finish their day early, but instead chose to use their final ten minutes to call one last referral. That referral was Juan, a man who had been waiting for the missionaries to call and was already "golden" and ready to receive the gospel.This story illustrates Principle Four: The Word of God, as Juan was converted primarily through his own "feasting" on the Book of Mormon. By the time the missionaries taught him, the Spirit had already acted as the teacher, providing the "substance and evidence" of the truth. Shawn emphasizes that while a missionary's charisma is helpful, it can never match the power of the scriptures to lead a soul to Christ.Visions and Restoration: OrasioOne of the most profound accounts in the episode involves Orasio, a 75-year-old man who Megan describes as "humble" and "funny". Orasio had been listening to the missionaries teach his wife but was not initially interested in progressing himself. His heart changed following a powerful dream where he saw a person who told him he needed to become a "restored child of God".In a miraculous moment of divine timing, Megan happened to be carrying a framed picture of Jesus Christ to their next lesson. When Orasio saw the picture, he recognized the Savior from his vision instantly. This experience confirmed to Orasio that the message of the Restoration was what he had been seeking. Megan reflects on the deep humility required for a 75-year-old man to ride his bike to church in the heat, sweating but eager to be confirmed a member of the Church.The "Ghost" Basketball Player: Divine RedirectionMegan shares an experience of "divine redirection" that underscores Principle Five: Angels and Miracles. After feeling a strong prompting to contact a man playing basketball, Megan and her companion tracked him to a specific house. When they knocked, the man was nowhere to be found, but they instead met a mother who had been praying for a "signal from God" to help her family. This prompting led to the baptism of her children and the family's sealing in the temple. Megan observes that while the initial goal wasn't met, following the Spirit led them exactly where they were needed.Closing: Careful vs. Casual DiscipleshipThe episode concludes with an invitation to move away from a "lukewarm" or "casual" life. Referencing the teaching to be "careful vs. casual," Megan encourages listeners to act with intention in their prayers, scripture study, and covenants. Shawn reinforces that when we choose to be "hot" and intentional, the Savior can use us to perform miracles and find the "one" who is prepared.

Send us Fan MailIn this powerful episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn welcomes his best friend of 35 years, Trent Stock, to share a story decades in the making. While many episodes focus on recent returnees, this conversation dives deep into the "epic" journey of two lifelong friends preparing for their missions in the 1990s. The episode serves as a profound masterclass on Principle One: Agency and Principle Two: Revelation, illustrating how a "mighty change of heart" is fueled by the grueling but joyful process of repentance.From "Cold" to "Converted": Trent’s Rock BottomIn high school, Trent was known for being "feisty" and frequently getting into fights. After graduation, he drifted away from the gospel, eventually dropping out of college and moving to Arizona, where he describes himself as being "all cold"—completely out and searching for happiness in all the wrong places. He reached a "lowest of lows" characterized by darkness and despair.His transformation began when a faithful family in Arizona invited him into their home for family home evening and 5:00 a.m. scripture study. Initially resistant, Trent began to feel the stark difference between worldly "happiness" and gospel "joy". During a General Conference broadcast, he witnessed the peace of a young family and realized his "soul hungered" for what they had. He made the deliberate choice to return home and serve a mission.The 12-Month Wrestle: Learning to Believe ChristThe heart of the episode explores Trent’s intensive 12-month repentance process. Shawn describes watching his friend move from "godly sorrow" to becoming a consecrated disciple. Trent candidly shares the "tricky" nature of the adversary, who planted seeds of doubt, leading Trent to believe he had to "suffer" for months to earn forgiveness.A major turning point occurred when Trent read the book Believing Christ, which taught him that he didn't just need to believe in Jesus, but he had to believe Him when He promised to make red sins "white as snow" immediately. After months of laboring, Trent experienced a literal "vocal voice" from the Spirit during a fireside confirming his forgiveness—a moment of "exquisite and sweet" joy that redefined his life.The Golf Course Miracle: Faith in ActionAs Trent repented, his "hot" commitment sparked a change in Shawn, who realized he had been "lukewarm"—not doing anything bad, but failing to do the "good things". The two friends began waking up at 5:00 a.m. to feast on the Book of Mormon and ride bikes to work at a golf course.They decided to put their faith to the test by fasting and praying for a specific missionary experience. On the very day they felt "it’s today," the Lord delivered a man with long dreadlocks to their work crew. They spent the day teaching him the gospel, witnessing the Holy Ghost confirm their words in real-time. This experience solidified their witness that God participates directly in the work when His servants exercise bold faith.Key Takeaway: The Speed of ThoughtShawn identifies Trent as a hero because he taught him how to truly repent. Trent concludes with an invitation to "repent at the speed of thought"—to immediately turn to the Savior the moment a mistake is made. This episode reinforces that no matter how "cold" one has been, the Atonement is a gift that offers "pure joy" to anyone willing to choose the Savior.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Mission Stories, Shawn is joined by his long-time friend and former mission companion, Matt Miles. Having served together in Ukraine nearly 30 years ago, they reflect on the foundational principles that transformed their service from a mere duty into a life-defining spiritual labor. The discussion focuses on the transition from "lukewarm" participation to "hot" discipleship, the necessity of preaching repentance for lasting conversion, and the power of meaningful service in opening the hearts of the children of God.The Choice to be "Hot" Shawn recalls a stark contrast between Matt’s "goof-off" persona in the Missionary Training Center and the consecrated worker he became in the field. The turning point for Shawn occurred during a temporary split where he realized he had become "lukewarm," passively following a more relaxed companion, while Matt—only two weeks into the mission—was relentlessly contacting every person on the street. This realization led to a "mighty change" in Shawn, teaching him that a mission only truly begins when a missionary uses their agency to own their work regardless of their surroundings. Matt emphasizes the principle from the Book of Mormon that we must act for ourselves and not be acted upon, noting that he couldn't understand why anyone would serve a mission without striving to be the very best they could be.The Doctrine of Repentance: Tamara Sashak Matt shares a pivotal experience with Tamara Sashak, a woman who had been taught by many missionaries without progressing. Through personal study in Moroni 8, Matt realized that "the first fruits of repentance is baptism". He shifted his teaching from a purely cognitive approach—seeking a testimony of the Book of Mormon—to an active invitation to repent. By challenging Tamara and her family to identify and turn away from their "weakest link" or biggest sin, Matt witnessed a miraculous change of heart. Within weeks, Tamara was baptized and remains "rock solid" in the church three decades later. As Shawn notes, faith that does not lead to repentance is "bunk" and fails to lead to the true conversion the Savior requires.Service as the Key: The Funerals of Donetsk Finally, Matt describes the unusual way he "opened his mouth" in Ukraine: by serving as a pallbearer. In a time of great economic depression, Matt performed the heavy, physical labor of carrying caskets and burying the dead for families who had no one else to turn to. This selfless service, modeled after the Savior’s life, opened the hearts of those like Sergey Nashov. Because Matt was willing to stand with families in their "moment of need," Sergey felt the love of Christ and was baptized shortly after his wife's funeral.Closing Matt reflects that every good thing in his life has come from the decision to forget himself and serve the Lord. He reminds listeners that the opportunity to be a full-time representative of Jesus Christ is a rare, once-in-a-lifetime blessing that should be cherished and fully embraced. We are invited to look in the mirror and ensure our reasons for serving are not passive or lukewarm, but are rooted in a deliberate love for the Savior and His children.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn sits down with his nephew, Baden Record, and Baden’s fiancée, Brook O’Brien, to discuss their respective missions in California Arcadia and Minnesota Minneapolis. The conversation centers on transitioning from a "lukewarm," passive faith to an active, "hot" commitment to the Savior, illustrating how owning one’s agency unlocks the power to witness miracles.The "Why" Behind the WorkShawn introduces Principle One: Agency, the godlike attribute of choosing and owning one's decisions. Baden candidly admits that he initially served for "good" but not "best" reasons, such as fulfilling family expectations and meeting Brooke's requirement of marrying a returned missionary. Early in his mission in East LA, Ben found himself frustrated by the heat and a lack of success compared to other missionaries.The turning point came when a seasoned missionary asked Baden why he was serving. When Baden threw the question back, the elder simply replied, "I’m here because I love Jesus Christ". This "hot" answer exposed Baden’s "lukewarm" state and sparked a months-long "wrestle" where he dedicated himself to earnest prayer and scripture study to earn his own deep testimony.Finding Fruit in the "Poorest Spot"Brook shares her experience of being sent to Morris, Minnesota, a tiny, isolated area notorious for being "slow". Struggling with a sour attitude, she found revelation in Jacob 5, where the Lord plants a seed in the "poorest spot in all the land" and declares He has nourished it. This scripture served as a direct "call out" from God, prompting an attitude shift that led to finding several miracle families, including a lost member family on their very last day in the area.Later, while battling illness and homesickness, Brook relied on Elder Maxwell’s teachings to avoid bitterness. She learned that by choosing to remember the Savior's "bitter cup," she could endure her own trials without becoming bitter herself.The Covenant to BaptizeThe episode concludes with Baden’s story of his final transfer. Drawing on his new "why"—a love for Christ—he and his companion entered into a "Covenant to Baptize" with the Lord. They promised specific sacrifices, such as praying every hour and reading the Book of Alma, in exchange for being led to those prepared for the gospel.Despite initial doubts, Baden’s companion’s "flame of faith" led them to set a goal of five baptisms. Through a series of miraculous encounters—including an "internet referral" who arrived in a Tesla—they saw exactly five souls enter the waters of baptism in Baden’s final weeks. Baden reflects that these experiences provided a "pure joy" that can only be understood through an eternal perspective.A Call to Active DiscipleshipShawn emphasizes that a mission is not something that should just "happen" to a young person; it must be a deliberate choice. Both Baden and Brook testify that the greatest transformation occurs when a missionary stops being "acted upon" and decides to be an instrument in the Lord’s hands. Their stories serve as a powerful invitation to forget oneself, be "hot" in the work, and discover the extraordinary joy of leading souls to Christ.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Mission Stories, Shawn is joined by recently returned missionary Ashlyn Solano and her sister, co-host Laura Solano. Ashlyn, home just two weeks from the Australia Melbourne Mission, shares how the weight of a missionary’s identity is forged not by a plastic tag, but through the profound spiritual experiences that occur when a missionary learns to step aside and let the Spirit teach.The Sacred Quiet of a First PrayerThe core of this discussion centers on Principle 2: Revelation Leads to Conversion. Ashlyn recounts her experience teaching Sharon, a woman from China who had no prior exposure to Christianity and was simply seeking "peace". After weeks of building trust—including participating in yoga to meet Sharon where she was—the missionaries invited her to say her very first prayer to God.The turning point occurred in a small room in "the bush" of Sunbury. As Ashlyn led the prayer line-by-line, the atmosphere shifted instantly. The room felt "quieter," "holy," and "sacred" as it became clear that Sharon was speaking to her Heavenly Father for the first time. Sharon’s immediate, tearful reaction—"I don't know what that was"—provided a textbook example of the Holy Ghost acting as the "substance and evidence" of things not seen. This revelation didn't just touch the investigator; it also healed Ashlyn's companion, who was experiencing a faith crisis, by proving that God is intimately aware of His individual children.Jeremiah’s Dream and the Slip of PaperIn a separate account, Ashlyn shares the miraculous conversion of the Wright family in Packinum. Despite being taught by multiple sets of missionaries, the family had plateaued in their progression. The breakthrough came through 12-year-old Jeremiah, who described recurring dreams of his deceased grandmother. In the dream, she would hand him a "slip of paper" with her name on it but would not speak.Recognizing this as direct revelation regarding temple work, the missionaries connected Jeremiah’s dream to the proxy ordinances performed for ancestors. The family’s hesitation vanished instantly. Within two weeks, they were baptized, and they have since been sealed in the temple. This story highlights that God is often already working on the hearts of His children; the missionary’s job is simply to help the seeker "make sense of it" and connect those spiritual feelings to the Restored Gospel.A Permanent IdentityAshlyn speaks candidly about the heartbreak of being released and taking off the missionary tag that bore the name of Jesus Christ. She expresses the realization that while she will never be a "full-time" missionary again, her identity as a disciple is now etched into her nature. Shawn concludes by reinforcing that the "pure joy" found in these stories is available to anyone who chooses to serve with all their heart.Key Principles Discussed:Revelation as the Engine: Conversion is not a result of logic, "Bible bashing," or charisma, but the quiet witness of the Comforter.The Weak Made Strong: Missionaries often arrive with low self-esteem, but through prayer and reliance on the Spirit, they are made powerful instruments.The Missionary as a Witness: The missionary’s primary role is to create an environment where the Spirit can do its work.

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Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn, guest Jamie Pyatt, and co-host Lauren explore the transformative power of Principle One: Choose Ye This Day and Principle Two: Revelation Leads to Conversion. Jamie, who served in both Honduras and Texas, shares a gripping narrative of moving from a state of resistance to becoming a consecrated disciple of Christ.The "Wrestle" of ChoiceJamie admits that at 21, serving a mission was not on her "radar," and she was initially offended when her bishop suggested it. Her father, a convert, challenged her perspective, saying, "I think you’re just mad because now you got to pray about it". This sparked a spiritual "wrestle" between her own will and God’s. Through a series of promptings—including a manila envelope full of articles about sister missionaries and a powerful testimony meeting—Jamie's heart softened. Shawn notes that choosing and owning the choice to serve is what distinguishes a life-changing mission from one that simply "happens" to a person.Trials in Honduras and a Sudden EvacuationJamie was originally called to the Tegucigalpa Honduras Mission in 1992. Her service began with intense physical and cultural challenges, including third-world living conditions and an infestation of fleas. However, her mission was abruptly disrupted by terrorist threats against North American missionaries. With only one hour to evacuate, Jamie left the country with nothing but a backpack and the clothes on her back, while battling a high fever from dengue fever.Finding Purpose in McAllen, TexasReassigned to McAllen, Texas, Jamie initially struggled with discouragement, feeling that Texas was "not her mission". Her new mission president challenged this mindset by asking, "Do you think that God loves his children in Honduras more than his children in Texas?".Jamie and her companion decided to fast for their hearts to "come to Texas" and set an intention to be "all in". The answer to their prayer came literally at their doorstep when Kenita Gyos, a young mother, knocked on their door asking, "Can you tell me how I can know if I’m a child of God?". Kenita had been searching for the right church for ten months and was led to their apartment after seeing a picture of Jesus they had placed in their window. Jamie reflects that the Lord "saved" Kenita for them as much as He saved them for her, teaching the sisters a vital lesson in God's awareness of His children.The Missionary as the ConvertThe episode concludes with the principle that the biggest convert on a mission is the missionary themselves. Lauren shares that we must stand "right next to Christ" to effectively invite others to Him, and Jamie emphasizes that a mission should transform a person from being "wishy-washy" to someone who will "not deny the Christ". Shawn highlights that Jamie’s story is a perfect example of serving with "all humility of mind" and "keeping back nothing," illustrating that our agency is the greatest gift we can return to God.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Mission Stories podcast, shawn interviews his niece, Reese Wren, who recently returned from serving in the Chile South Mission. Reese describes her mission as a "magical" place characterized by German-influenced architecture, the constant smell of bread, and even penguins. While she is now "on fire" for the gospel, she candidly shares her journey from being a fearful, "lukewarm" missionary to a consecrated disciple of Christ.Overcoming the "Lukewarm" Stateshawn recalls a pre-mission trip to Washington D.C. where he challenged Reese to imagine contacting the hundreds of people walking by; at the time, she admitted she didn't care about them and had no desire to stop them. This apathy followed her to Chile, where she spent her first few weeks in a "passive decision-making mode," terrified of the language and relying on her companion to do all the teaching.The turning point came when Reese realized she wasn't doing anything "wrong," but she also wasn't doing anything "right". In what she describes as her "Enos moment," she knelt for 20 minutes and pleaded with God to show her her weaknesses so she could change. This act of humility triggered a "mighty change of heart," transforming her greatest fear—street contacting—into her favorite part of missionary work.The Story of Juan: A "Golden" SoulThe heart of the episode is the story of Juan, a 63-year-old construction worker who had smoked since he was 15. Despite his rough outward appearance, Juan was a "golden" investigator who was desperate to change his life. To overcome his lifelong addiction, Juan made a pact with Reese to drink mate (a traditional herbal tea) every time he felt the urge to smoke, even sending her "proof" photos three times a day.Reese highlights the spiritual struggle of fighting for Juan’s soul when some local church members and leaders expressed doubt about his ability to truly change. Through this experience, Reese learned to see Juan not as a "dirty" stranger, but as a beloved brother and a son of God. shawn notes that this is the ultimate purpose of a mission: to learn to love others the way the Savior does.Key Principles and AdvicePrinciple One (Choose Ye This Day): Reese emphasizes that every day on a mission is a deliberate choice to stay and work, rather than just being "acted upon" by circumstances.Principle Three (An Open Mouth Finds Listeners): Though she was initially terrified, Reese discovered that opening her mouth on the streets was the most joyful way to find those the Lord had prepared.The Power of Repentance: Reese defines her mission experience as a process of continuous repentance, which she describes simply as a "willingness to change".shawn concludes the episode by encouraging listeners to get off the fence and serve. Reese’s final advice to those considering a mission is direct: "Do it," because the experience of losing yourself in the service of others is the only way to truly find your own conversion.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn sits down with Brynlee Brown, a BYU student from Carlsbad who is preparing to serve in the Bahía Blanca Argentina Mission. The conversation dives deep into the heart of missionary motivation, specifically exploring the power of actively choosing to serve versus simply being told to go.The "Why" Behind the MissionShawn notes that many missionaries serve because of a "grand revelation" or a specific command in their patriarchal blessing. Shawn shares his own experience of receiving a powerful, undeniable "burning in the bosom" that told him his life would be better if he served.In contrast, Brynlee reveals that she did not receive a dramatic sign or a clear command. Instead, she simply chose to go because she wanted to become a better, more Christlike person. She explains that while she prayed for a clear answer, she eventually realized that making the choice for herself was an act of faith. Shawn identifies this as a "best" reason for serving, noting that using one’s agency to follow the Savior’s example is profoundly powerful.The Path to Self-ImprovementShawn and Brynlee discuss the difference between the world’s view of self-improvement and the Lord’s way. While the world suggests degrees, money, or status as markers of growth, Brynlee concludes that the most effective way to grow is to do what Jesus Christ did: serve others.To illustrate this, Shawn shares an analogy of two people climbing a mountain. While one could climb alone to seek their own reward, carrying someone else up the mountain (like "Grandpa Chris") results in greater physical strength, more endurance, and a shared joy that is "much more grand" than succeeding alone.A Mighty Change of HeartThe episode highlights the scriptural precedent for this outward-focused growth. They discuss Ammon in Alma 26, who rejoiced not in his own strength, but in being an instrument in God’s hands to bring souls to Christ. Brynlee observes that while she is going on a mission to "better herself," she knows that once she gets there, the work will stop being about her and will become entirely about the people. She describes this as a "mighty change of heart," where a person moves from being selfishly focused to caring deeply about God's children.The Power of AgencyShawn emphasizes that God does not want "slothful servants" who must be commanded in all things; He wants His children to use their free will and choice to do good. Brynlee’s decision was also influenced by seeing the dramatic growth in her brother after his mission to North Dakota.Shawn concludes by advising listeners that even those who feel "commanded" to serve must still actively own that choice. He warns against being "passive" or "lukewarm" in the work, noting that a mission is most meaningful when the missionary chooses to be all-in. Brynlee’s story serves as a testament that seeking after one's own salvation through the service of others is a joyful and transformative path.

Send us Fan MailIn this powerful episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn and co-host Lauren are joined by Jack Eliason, a recently returned missionary who served in Las Vegas, and Shawn’s son, Evan. The discussion centers on the profound spiritual transition from the "natural man"—who is inherently focused inward and selfish—to a disciple of Christ who has forgotten themselves in the service of others.The Natural Man and the Quest for GloryShawn opens the episode with a philosophical question about selfishness, noting that the "natural man" is always focused on "me, what I want, and when I want it". Jack candidly admits that before his mission, his identity was largely wrapped up in being the "smartest guy in the room" and winning debates. He acknowledges that his initial motivation for serving was a "good" reason—honoring his heritage and seeking the same "glory" and praise he saw other returned missionaries receive—but it wasn't yet the "best" reason.Rocky the Romanian: A Lesson in CompassionThe heart of the episode is the story of Rocky the Romanian. Jack, a new missionary in a trio with two struggling companions, used his competitive nature to "open his mouth" and talk to everyone at Las Vegas apartment pools in 114-degree heat. There he found Rocky, a man who had fled the "German mob" and ended up in Vegas with no money, no papers, and no English.Rocky was "compelled to be humble," living at "ground zero" and begging for food for his family. As Jack taught him, something shifted. Witnessing Rocky’s brokenness and his immediate connection to the Spirit changed Jack’s heart. Jack realized he no longer cared about his own "glory"; instead, he felt an overwhelming desire to give Rocky everything he had. Shawn connects this to Lehi’s vision of the Tree of Life, where partaking of the fruit (the love of God) immediately makes one "desirous" that others should partake as well.The Pattern of a Changed HeartThe group shares several stories that reinforce this theme of outward-focused love:Shawn’s Story: In Ukraine, Shawn felt a "mighty change of heart" when he saw an investigator named Victor, a coal miner, covered in soot after a grueling shift. This compassion transformed Shawn’s teaching from a duty into a plea for Victor to find joy in Christ.Evan’s Story: In Brazil, Evan felt a powerful love for a teenager named Nicholas, who had to find the courage to ask his abusive mother for permission to be baptized.Lauren’s Story: Lauren describes feeling like a "bus hit her" with love for Charmaine, a woman living in extreme poverty. Even though Charmaine didn't get baptized, the experience was converting for Lauren because it replaced her self-focus with charity.Overcoming Fear Through OthersJack shares a final story about Elder Malberg, a new missionary who was traumatized after having a gun pulled on him. Jack helped him overcome his desire to go home by using a "Jedi mind trick": he stopped Malberg from focusing on his own trauma and instead spent the day talking about the people they loved and the members who needed them. By focusing outward, Malberg found the hope and confidence to become a "firm and confident" missionary.Final Advice: Be All-In from Day 1Jack concludes with a piece of advice for future missionaries: do not wait to be "ready.". He warns against waiting until you know the language or have a "good" companion to start working. Instead, he encourages missionaries to be "all-in" from the first day. Shawn summarizes that once you choose to serve with all your heart, the Atonement begins to change your heart, leading to the "greatest, deepest motivation" of all: pure love for

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn interviews Laura Neuhaus, a BYU student who recently returned from serving in the Curitiba, Brazil Mission. Shawn highlights that while Laura served in a relatively affluent area, her success came from her humility and her disciplined application of gospel principles. Throughout the episode, Shawn connects Laura’s extraordinary experiences to the seven missionary principles, emphasizing that these are practical applications of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.The Power of Sincere Prayer: ValeriniLaura shares her "rock bottom" moment as a new missionary who struggled with the language and homesickness. One Saturday night, she pleaded with God to know she was needed in the work. The next morning, she approached a newcomer named Valerini and completely butchered the pronunciation of her name.To Laura's surprise, Valerini began to cry; she had dreamed of a missionary with that specific name tag mispronouncing her name in that church building. Valerini had found the church through a Facebook ad and felt the Spirit confirm that this was God's true church. This experience illustrated Principle Five—that miracles are a missionary's right—and led to Valerini’s baptism three weeks later.Prophetic Promises: NiataOne of the most powerful segments involves Niata, a lawyer who had been labeled by previous missionaries as a "dot" who was unlikely to progress. Despite her deep belief in the Book of Mormon, Niata hesitated to commit to baptism. Following a strong spiritual prompting, Laura made a bold, prophetic promise: if Niata would be baptized and live the gospel, she would pass her law school exams.Shawn identifies this as the Spirit speaking through a servant of the Lord. Niata exercised her faith, was baptized, and subsequently passed her test. Her husband, Mario, was later baptized after witnessing the profound change and "pure joy" in his wife.Turning the "Hard" into "Holy": Echo ValleyLaura recounts being transferred to Echo Valley, an area with a difficult reputation and a challenging companion. Shawn highlights her choice to avoid a "lukewarm" attitude, instead deciding to make it the best transfer of her mission. In this "hard" area, they found Karen, a successful businesswoman who had spent the entire night praying to know if God was real. Karen viewed the missionaries as a direct answer to her prayer. By the end of that six-week transfer, Laura witnessed five baptisms, proving that a faithful mindset leads to success even in difficult circumstances.Key Takeaways and Principles• Principle One (Choose Ye This Day): Laura’s success was rooted in her deliberate choice to be "hot" (dedicated) rather than lukewarm, even when she felt like a "lost dog" following her companion.• Principle Two (Revelation Leads to Conversion): Both Valerini and Karen were led to the truth through personal revelation, which was then confirmed by the words of the missionaries.• Member-Missionary Synergy: Laura emphasizes that the humility of the Brazilian members and their willingness to help were vital to the mission's success.• The Worth of a Soul: Shawn and Laura conclude by discussing D&C 18, noting that the immense joy Laura feels is a direct result of her laboring to bring souls to Christ.Laura’s final message to those on the fence about serving is simple: "Go." She testifies that God’s plan is far greater than anything we could choose for ourselves and that the sacrifices made are forever rewarded with joy.

Send us Fan MailIn this Part 2 episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn welcomes back Sister Kirra Eddington to discuss her service in the Texas Dallas South Mission. While the previous episode focused on her pre-mission conversion through repentance, this episode explores how that spiritual foundation sustained her through tragedy and fueled her success as a missionary.A Prophetic Warning and a Tragic TestKirra shares a profound experience from the MTC. While reading 1 Nephi 3:15, she received a lingering, unshakable thought that something "really bad" was going to happen on her mission, but that it was God's will for her to stay and finish her service no matter what. Shawn notes that this revelation—specifically the "lingering" nature of the Spirit—gave her confidence that God was in control.Three months into her mission, the trial arrived. Kirra received a call that her mother had been diagnosed with Grade 4 Glioblastoma, an aggressive brain cancer with a short life expectancy. devastated and fearing she would never see her mother again, Kirra found strength in a moment of grace at a church activity. Looking through a window, she saw a painting of Jesus Christ’s face perfectly framed, reaffirming the MTC revelation that she was exactly where she was supposed to be. This spiritual confirmation allowed her to stay and serve with purpose despite the heartbreak.The "Wave of Energy" in TeachingKirra explains that without her prior experience of repentance, her mission would have felt like "summer sales on steroids"—miserable and rejection-filled. Instead, teaching became her favorite part of the work. She describes feeling a "wave of energy" whenever she sat down to teach because she wasn't just reciting a script; she was offering people the same "exquisite joy" and relief she had personally tasted through the Atonement.Deli and the "Meteor"Kirra recounts finding a "meteor" (a media referral) named Deli. Expecting a woman, she and her companion were greeted by a man covered in tattoos and piercings. Despite his intimidating appearance, Deli was a "golden" investigator. He had been told by previous pastors (and his own mother) that he was destined for hell due to predestination doctrines (which Shawn identifies as Calvinism). Deli had deep, sincere questions about why God would create children just to damn them, and Kirra was able to offer him the hope of the Restored Gospel.Tina and the Power of the Book of MormonThe episode highlights the story of Tina, a woman who had hopped from church to church seeking "more". For three months, Kirra tried to convert Tina using logic, Bible verses, and "lawyer mode," but nothing clicked. Finally, following a prompting from their mission president, they decided to stop "bashing" and simply read the Book of Mormon with her.The change was instant. Tina began devouring the book, reading ten chapters ahead between visits and recognizing Joseph Smith's prophetic role on her own. Shawn uses this as a prime example of the principle that "the Word of God answers every question", noting that logic cannot replace the converting power of the Spirit found in the scriptures.Shawn concludes the episode by emphasizing that a missionary's ability to endure "hot, dusty days" and tragic news comes from building a foundation on the "Rock of Our Redeemer" (Helaman 5:12). Kirra’s final advice to listeners is simple and urgent: "Don't not go on a mission... You won't regret it."

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the Mission Stories podcast features Shawn hosting two "Gen Z" guests, Izzi (16) and Lara (17), who have attended his mission prep classes for several years. Shawn affectionately labels them "punk rockers" because they rebel against the Southern California cultural norms of partying and vanity. Instead, they choose to read the Book of Mormon and hold "righteous raves" (pizza and preaching), demonstrating true independence by bucking the system to follow God.The discussion centers on Principle Two: Revelation Leads to Conversion, specifically focusing on the "pattern" God provides to discern truth and avoid deception. Shawn cites D&C 52:14, arguing that the only reliable pattern for knowing truth is through the Holy Ghost.Distinguishing Events from the SpiritIzzi shares a story about praying on a jetty while recovering from a surfing injury. Feeling low, she asked God to help her know Him. She immediately felt calm and peace, after which a rogue wave crashed over her. Shawn challenges Izzi to recognize that the revelation was the peace she felt before the event, not the dramatic wave itself. He teaches that reliance on physical signs rather than spiritual feelings can lead to deception.To illustrate this, Shawn recounts a story from his mission in Russia. A woman claimed she saw the prophet Moses in her bedroom and touched his cloak. However, she reported feeling "scared to death" and full of fear. Shawn explains that this violated God's pattern; true revelation is accompanied by peace, joy, and comfort, not darkness or fear.Listening vs. HearkeningLara shares an experience at a funeral where she felt she should sit by a lonely woman but didn't. She identified this as a spiritual prompting rather than her own thought because the feeling "dwelt" in her heart and "lingered" with her.The group discusses the difference between hearing and hearkening. Izzi and Shawn define hearkening as "listening with the intent to act". They agree that one cannot passively wait for revelation; one must have a desire and dive into the scriptures with the intent to share and do.Retrospective RevelationShawn shares a pivotal MTC moment where a teacher, Sister Wrencher, helped him identify the Holy Ghost. She asked the class to close their eyes and feel the words of 3 Nephi 11. Shawn realized the feeling he had was the same feeling he had as a child at Disneyland with his family—a feeling of pure joy. This taught him that the Spirit often manifests as joy and love, and we can look back at our lives to see where God was present.Izzi shares a similar childhood memory of being swept out to sea in first grade. She heard a voice say, "Put your feet down," and felt a sensation of floating, which she identifies as a core memory of the Spirit protecting her.Advice for YouthThe episode concludes with advice for aspiring missionaries:• Izzi: You must "knock" to receive. You will find God's mercies only if you are actively looking for them.• Lara: Stop waiting to be "ready." Act immediately on promptings that invite you to do good (Moroni 7:13) rather than doubting if it is truly the Spirit.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn and co-host Lauren welcome Carson Campbell, a returned missionary who served in the England Birmingham mission. The conversation focuses on Principle Two: Revelation Leads to Conversion, with a specific emphasis on how to define and recognize the Holy Ghost.The "Brick" of RevelationThe episode centers on Carson’s unique description of the Spirit hitting him "like a brick",. Shawn notes that while we often use mortal words like "peace," "comfort," or "clarity" to describe spiritual experiences, these descriptions are ultimately inadequate for divine communication,. He compares Carson’s "brick" to Joseph Smith’s description of "brightness and glory," noting that Joseph himself admitted these things "defied description",,. Shawn argues that the "substance" and "evidence" of things not seen mentioned in Hebrews 11:1 is actually the Holy Ghost itself, providing a spiritual confirmation that transcends physical sight,.Carson’s Conversion and WitnessesCarson shares two pivotal moments of revelation:• Confirming Prophets: While already serving on his mission, Carson realized he lacked a deep personal witness that the apostles and President Russell M. Nelson were truly authorized servants of God,. During General Conference, while watching Elder Holland, he received a spiritual confirmation so powerful it felt like a brick, convincing him of their divine calling,.• The Mission Call: Before serving, Carson prayed specifically to be sent somewhere he could be "effective immediately" and serves to his best capacity. When he opened his call to Birmingham, he received an immediate spiritual witness—another "brick"—that God had heard his specific request and knew where he needed to be,.Practical Insights on Seeking WisdomThe group discusses how to cultivate a life of revelation:• Ask Liberally: Drawing on James 1:5, Shawn emphasizes that God wants us to ask questions and will not "upbraid" or mock us for lacking wisdom, regardless of how many questions we have,.• Holding Your Peace: Lauren shares her personal struggle with recognizing the Spirit due to health challenges. She highlights the importance of "holding your peace"—humbly submitting and being still—while diligently studying the word of God,.• Spiritual Work: Carson advises future missionaries to prioritize spiritual work—prayer and scripture study—over social distractions, noting that these habits provide a "centerstone" for life,,.Shawn concludes by reminding listeners that the singular purpose of a missionary is to lead souls to Christ through the gospel path of faith, repentance, and covenants, all of which are fueled by the convincing power of revelation,,. He invites listeners to "feast upon the words of Christ" for two weeks with real intent, promising that they, too, will receive revelation for their specific questions.

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the Mission Stories podcast features Shawn and guest Sister Kirra Eddington, who recently returned from serving in the Dallas, Texas mission. The conversation focuses on Principle Two: Revelation leads to conversion, specifically highlighting repentance not as a shameful burden, but as the "greatest gift" and a source of pure joy.The "Lukewarm" Trap and Rock BottomKirra describes her journey from being "blissfully unaware" and apathetic in high school to reaching a spiritual low during her freshman year at BYU. She slipped into a "lukewarm" state of indifference, eventually stopping church attendance and failing her classes. She describes this period as feeling "starved" and "miserable," as if she had no soul and no direction. Shawn notes that this passivity is dangerous because it leaves one being "acted upon" by the world rather than choosing to act.The Turning Point: A "Train" of RevelationWhile sitting in a basement at BYU trying to cram for a Book of Mormon class, Kirra read Alma 34:32-33, which warns: "do not procrastinate the day of your repentance". She felt hit by a "train"—a crushing spiritual realization that she was not prepared to meet God. This moment of revelation led her to immediately text her ward secretary to schedule a meeting with her bishop.Redefining RepentanceShawn and Kirra address common misconceptions about repentance:• It is Not Shameful: While people may feel ashamed of their actions, the act of repenting itself is joyous and fulfilling.• Commission vs. Omission: Repentance isn't just for "big sins" (commission); it is equally for the "sins of omission"—the good things we leave undone, such as failing to pray or seek God.• A State of Being: It is a daily determination to change and work with the Savior, not a one-time event.• The Bishop’s Role: Kirra emphasizes that her bishop did not judge her; instead, he offered love and a "weight-lifting" confirmation that the Savior loved her.Conversion and the Call to ServeThe result of Kirra's repentance was a dramatic shift from a "4" to a "10" on the joy scale. This personal conversion through the Atonement of Jesus Christ created a deep sense of gratitude, which became the primary driver for her decision to serve a mission. She explains that she wanted others to feel the "exquisite joy" that replaced her pain.Shawn concludes that the best way to prepare for a mission is to learn how to repent daily. He testifies that when a missionary understands how to fall on their knees and plead for the Lord's help, they gain the tools necessary to fulfill their singular purpose: leading other souls to Christ.

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the Mission Stories podcast features Shawn, co-hosts Lauren and Abby, and guest Erik Peterson, nicknamed "Erik the Swede". Erik, who served in the Oslo, Norway mission, shares a powerful narrative of shifting from a "lukewarm," passive missionary to a consecrated disciple of Christ by seeking personal revelation and feasting on the word of God.The Vision: "Always Accept Change"The discussion centers on Principle Two: Revelation Leads to Conversion, illustrating that God communicates personally to those who seek Him. Erik recounts a vivid dream he had while in the home MTC: he saw President Russell M. Nelson at General Conference walk through the crowd specifically to him, look him in the eyes with a tear on his face, and say, "Always accept change".This vision proved prophetic; the very next day, Erik’s stake president informed him that due to COVID-related visa delays, he was being reassigned to Dallas, Texas. Shawn highlights that this was not a "convenient coincidence" but a substantive spiritual experience intended to prepare Erik’s soul for a jarring disruption to his plans.Transitioning from "Liking" to "Loving" the WordErik admits that for the first three months of his mission, he was "lukewarm," merely going through the motions of missionary routines. A pivotal moment occurred during an interview with his mission president, President Montag, who asked Erik to describe his relationship with his brother. When Erik finished, the president challenged him: "By the time you leave this mission, I want you to be able to talk about Jesus Christ like he was your brother".This challenge transformed Erik’s approach to the scriptures. He moved from simply "liking" the stories to "loving" the word of God by looking for Christ in every verse. Lauren adds that through a similar study of the Gospels, she discovered that Christ’s primary motivation for every action was compassion. Shawn notes that this shift in "will and intent" allows the Holy Ghost to move a person beyond the "letter of the law" into a truly converted state.Key Lessons for Preparing MissionariesThe episode concludes with several actionable insights for youth preparing to serve:• The Power of Intent: Reading scriptures to find the Savior’s mannerisms and personal voice changes a cognitive study into a spiritual relationship.• Seeking a Witness: Every missionary has the right to receive revelation, and even visions, if they act in faith and "hold their peace" to listen.• Willingness Over Perfection: Christ does not expect perfection immediately; He requires a heart that is "willing" to repent and follow His footsteps.Erik’s final advice to listeners is to find and read one new story of Jesus Christ every single day. Shawn summarizes the episode by testifying that revelation is the only way to lead souls to Christ, and that seeking the Savior through the scriptures will "tune the spiritual radio" to hear God's voice.

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the Mission Stories podcast features Shawn and guest Ethan Johnson, who recently returned from the Houston South Mission. Ethan shares how his mission was a life-changing experience that transformed him from a self-described "lukewarm" member into a disciple "on fire" for the gospel. Shawn frames the discussion around the first three principles of missionary work, showing how Ethan’s stories illustrate each one.Principle One: Actively Choosing to ServeEthan’s journey began with a period of spiritual "indifference". While attending BYU, he felt disconnected from the church culture and became "lukewarm," which eventually led him to choose a "cold" path of non-participation. He describes this year as living in "black and white," marked by severe depression and poor mental health.At a "rock bottom" moment, Ethan felt a spiritual whisper in a dark room telling him to pray. This prayer resulted in a profound revelation of light and love that changed everything, teaching him that God is happy when we use our agency to turn back to Him. This experience set the foundation for his decision to serve a mission.Principle Two: Revelation and the AtonementShawn and Ethan discuss how conversion is a process of learning to rely on the Savior. Ethan recounts a heavy experience in Sealy, Texas, where he met a woman on Mother’s Day weekend whose husband had just committed suicide. Despite his limited Spanish, Ethan felt an overwhelming love for her and shared scriptures about Christ's yoke.Initially, Ethan struggled with the burden of this experience, questioning if he had "done enough" to save her. His mission president, President Richards, taught him a vital lesson: missionaries do not save people; only Jesus Christ does. Ethan realized he had been trying to "earn" his worthiness through works. He learned to use the sacrament as a weekly "altar" where he could place his burdens and mistakes in a "box" for Christ to take, finally understanding the true power of the Atonement.Principle Three: Opening Your Mouth Through InnovationEthan’s mission took a unique turn when his second mission president, President Garn, allowed him to use his professional film talents for missionary work. Ethan helped run a Facebook page called "Near Him," creating digital content that reached five million people—a massive increase compared to traditional door-knocking.These digital ads targeted people searching for meaning and led to more baptisms than any other finding source in the mission. Shawn notes that this is a modern application of the command to "open your mouth," as the voice of the shepherd can be carried through social media to find those ready to hear the gospel.Shawn concludes by encouraging listeners to turn to Christ, no matter how "dark" their circumstances might be, promising that the Lord will reveal Himself to those who seek Him.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn and Lauren are joined by Sister Micah Bullard to discuss Principle Two: Revelation Leads to Conversion. The conversation explores how true conversion requires a specific companion attribute: humility. Micah shares her powerful "hero's journey" from self-reliant perfectionism to a deep, joyful reliance on the Atonement of Jesus Christ.The Trap of PerfectionismMicah describes herself as a lifelong perfectionist who initially felt successful on her mission because she was "good at it". However, Shawn and Lauren point out that relying solely on one’s own talents can lead to an "unintentional neglect of the Atonement". This self-reliance is a form of pride where a person chooses to rely on themselves rather than the Savior.Hitting "Rock Bottom"Micah’s turning point came just twelve weeks into her mission when she was asked to train a new missionary. Overwhelmed by the pressure not to "mess up," combined with a difficult companion who did not enjoy her presence, Micah hit a spiritual rock bottom. She began to doubt her worthiness and felt that because her "numbers" weren't high, she was failing God. She viewed the Yoke of Christ not as a partnership, but as Christ shaking His head at her for not being "good enough".The Shift to HumilityExhausted by her own efforts, Micah finally turned to God in desperate, constant prayer. Through revelation, she was led to the story of the Brother of Jared. She realized that, like the brother of Jared offering small stones to be lighted, her "measly" humble offering was enough because God could touch it and make it perfect.Lauren shares the Parable of the Bicycle to illustrate this: a child provides the few dollars they have, and the father pays the rest. Similarly, Shawn explains the Yoke of Christ using the analogy of two oxen; Christ is the powerful partner pulling the heavy weight, asking us to simply join Him so the burden becomes light.Joy Through the AtonementOnce Micah shifted her confidence from herself to Christ, her experience transformed. Even when she was asked to switch to Spanish—a language she had never spoken—and then train in that language shortly after, she felt indescribable joy instead of stress. She realized that using the Atonement is not a burden to Christ, but a gift born of His specific love for her.Shawn concludes by emphasizing that humility is the vital catalyst for accessing the Atonement and finding the same "overflowing joy" described by Ammon in the scriptures.

Send us Fan MailA quick Christmas episode. Merry Christmas. 

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the Mission Stories podcast features Shawn and Lauren welcoming guest Garrett Baxter, who has just been set apart as "Elder Baxter" and is preparing to serve in the Baton Rouge, Louisiana mission. The discussion focuses on Principle Number One: Choosing to Serve the Lord ("Choose you this day").Shawn lays the foundation by explaining that this principle addresses whether a missionary chooses to be a person who acts or a person who is acted upon, emphasizing that exercising agency determines the mission's outcome.The Choice Between Hot, Cold, and LukewarmThe episode uses the scripture from Revelation 3:15-16, where the Lord expresses that he desires us to be either hot or cold, but not lukewarm, because he will "spew thee out of my mouth". Shawn highlights that a lukewarm state leads to being acted upon, rather than acting with purpose.Elder Baxter (Garrett) shared his personal story of living in a lukewarm state that caused him significant unhappiness and misery.Garrett's Struggle with Depression and LukewarmnessThroughout high school, Garrett struggled with severe depression and was diagnosed with scrupulosity OCD (the inherent fear of doing something morally wrong, often leading to guilt and the conviction that he was going to hell). He noted that while therapy helped with the OCD, the depression persisted, leaving him "at rock bottom".Shawn, Lauren, and Garrett discussed how this feeling of despair can stem from a misunderstanding of the Atonement of Jesus Christ and the difference between the law of works (which requires perfection) and the law of the gospel (which requires faith, repentance, baptism, and the Holy Ghost). Garrett felt immense pressure to be perfect and described his spiritual efforts (reading scriptures, praying) as simply going through the motions—a practice that gave him no real insight or spiritual benefit. He felt he was constantly being "acted upon" by his circumstances and the overwhelming sadness. He admitted that during this period, his misery was rooted in selfishness, as his central focus was on himself and his own suffering.The V-Day Epiphany (Victory Day)Garrett reached his "V-Day" (Victory Day) while at BYU, where he realized that happiness was a choice. This realization was spurred by a class lesson, his patriarchal blessing, and, notably, studying figures who suffered rock bottom but maintained faith: Job, Joseph Smith (in Liberty Jail), and Jesus Christ on the cross. Garrett was deeply moved by the fact that even the Savior cried out, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" during the Atonement, realizing that even the most perfect being understood his feelings of isolation and abandonment.Garrett's breakthrough involved choosing to forget himself and get to work serving others. Instead of praying, "Heavenly Father, please help me be happy," he changed his prayer to, "Heavenly Father, put someone in my path who needs my help today.". This choice to act and serve others, even in small ways (like complimenting a cool shirt), immediately brought immense joy and peace, shifting him from a miserable, lukewarm state to an empowered, hot state.Shawn emphasizes that this active choice to serve others and build them up is the core of the gospel, mirroring Christ's example and leading to true joy. Elder Baxter's final advice to listeners is simple: "Wake up and choose" to act and forget yourself in the work.

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the Mission Stories podcast, welcomes a special guest: Shawn's son, Evan Record, who recently returned from his mission just a few days prior. Shawn mentions the joy of seeing two new faces in the studio, including Evan and a framed motivational photograph of himself with the words "Never give up". Evan, previously Elder Record, has returned excited to share stories from his time as a missionary.The episode centers on vital missionary principles, beginning with Principle Number Two: conversion. Shawn explains that the sole purpose of a missionary is to lead souls to Christ. They examine Mosiah 5:7, which defines conversion through language like "spiritual rebirth," having hearts "changed," and being "born again" through faith. Shawn and Evan discuss how core practices—faith, repentance, baptism, and the gift of the Holy Ghost—lead to conversion. Revelation is key to conversion and comes from sacred habits such as praying, feasting on the words of Christ, and attending church.Evan shares an insightful experience concerning the sacrament, which Shawn calls the "fifth principle" in the conversion process. While serving in San Lorenzo, a remote area with a small branch of only about 18 members, Evan and his companion often prepared, blessed, and passed the sacrament due to the lack of men available. This repeated performance of the ordinance caused Evan to re-remember and relearn its significance, realizing it is not just part of the meeting, but "the meeting" itself. Evan explains that the more he focused on the ordinance and its meaning, the more he felt Christ's presence in the chapel, describing the feeling as a "hug from Christ".They discuss the powerful symbolism of the sacrament as the new covenant replacing the Old Testament practice of blood sacrifices on an altar. Instead of offering an innocent animal, Christ requires us to offer a "broken heart and a contrite spirit". Evan explains that thinking about the sacrament in this way helped him realize he could not succeed on his own and deepened his reliance on God. Evan recommends a simple trick for taking the sacrament: during the first prayer, focus on gratitude and thanking God; during the second prayer, focus on repentance. Furthermore, when receiving the tray, imagine Christ offering himself to you.The discussion shifts to Principle Number One: choosing between being lukewarm, hot, or cold. Evan shares a story of being called as a trainer just three months into his mission, when he was still struggling significantly to speak Portuguese. Faced with this nearly "impossible" task, Evan realized his lifelong approach—the "Evan way" of just working harder—would not suffice. He deliberately chose to humble himself and get on his knees, praying with "all the energy of heart" (Moroni 7:48). This act of humility led to a specific feeling of peace and confidence from God, which allowed him to succeed in training his new companion.Evan concludes the episode by advising listeners to start preparing for their missions now by focusing on small, simple things like consistent scripture study and frequent prayer. Shawn summarizes Evan’s advice for keeping the fire of conversion intact: "Open the book, hit your knees, and get to church to take the sacrament".

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the Mission Stories podcast, Shawn, the host, interviews two currently serving sister missionaries: Sister Nichols (2 months out) and Sister Weiss (4 months out). Due to their strict obedience, the interview was recorded in a makeshift studio at Shawn's house. The discussion centers on the challenges of serving in Southern California, where people are often "content" and "comfortable," making them unwilling to seek spiritual help.The episode explores the theme of transitioning from "lukewarm" belief to a deliberate, "hot" choice to follow God, referencing principles discussed frequently on the podcast. Shawn emphasizes that being lukewarm—being blown around by external influences—is undesirable.Sister Nichols' Journey: Sister Nichols described herself as "lukewarm" when she stopped attending church regularly while at BYU, leading to a period of isolation, sadness, and "bitterness". She realized that experiencing the cold or bitter side teaches one to "prize the sweet". This realization spurred her to pray for guidance. She felt prompted to receive her temple endowments, even without plans for marriage or a mission. After attending General Conference, where talks reinforced the importance of the temple, she was endowed in late 2024 and attended endowment sessions twice a week. While praying in the celestial room, a friend whispered to her about serving a mission, confirming her new direction.Sister Weiss' Journey: Sister Weiss initially felt her decision to serve was "lukewarm" because it was based on family example. Her conviction became "hot" when she realized that the joy she felt came specifically from the gospel of Jesus Christ, not merely the surrounding culture of the church (a distinction common in Utah). She cemented her testimony by making the deliberate choice to read scriptures and pray, finding confirmation through the Holy Ghost.Amanda's Powerful Conversion Story: The missionaries shared the story of Amanda, whose recent baptism was incredibly powerful. Amanda had a very difficult life, including being in and out of prison, and had been contacted (and subsequently dropped) multiple times by Elders over the past year. She was initially found in a Lowe's parking lot and listed as an "elect contact". One Elder reached her by phone while she was in a 12-step/AA meeting, prompting her attention when his profile picture—a picture of Jesus Christ—appeared on her phone.Sister Nichols and Sister Weiss consistently tried to follow up with Amanda, eventually connecting with her in her driveway. Amanda opened up to the sisters, who taught her about the Atonement. At her baptism two weeks prior, Amanda stated the contrast between her life of resentment and the "love and peace" she now feels. She quoted Mosiah 4:9, trusting that God had "perfectly positioned" the missionaries to find her.Shawn connected Amanda’s experience to Nephi’s vision of the Tree of Life, where the desirable fruit represents the "love of God which shed its self abroad in the hearts of the children of men," interpreting this love as the forgiveness received through the Atonement. Shawn concludes by encouraging listeners to prepare with deliberate intent—feasting upon the words of Christ, praying, and receiving temple ordinances—to find those who are currently experiencing the "bitter" life and deliver them the joy of the restored gospel.

Send us Fan MailThis episode features Shawn interviewing return missionaries Caitlyn Sommers and his son, Evan Record, about the theme of shifting from trusting in oneself to putting trust in the Lord. The episode addresses the common missionary experience of realizing that personal talent and hard work are insufficient for gospel success.Shawn posits that many missionaries have not truly needed to rely on God out of "true humility and brokenness and desperation". This self-reliance represents living the "law of works," which focuses on accomplishing goals independently, subconsciously rejecting the need for a Savior.Caitlyn’s Experience: Caitlyn, who served in Santiago, Chile, realized nine months into her mission that she could not force people to be baptized, despite her history of achieving success through hard work (grades, sports, piano). After praying to learn how to trust the Lord, she was sent to a remote area with a companion who could not walk due to a physical illness. This forced Caitlyn, who preferred to "run everywhere," to stop relying on her speed and efforts.Caitlyn learned that unity and love within the companionship, even with a struggling companion, brings the Spirit and leads to success and "miracle after miracle". She recounted a time when a lesson devolved into "bashing" and she felt powerless to stop it; she chose instead to offer a fervent, silent prayer. She realized that the Lord "can do it," and this experience solidified her identity as God’s daughter.She shared the powerful story of Samuel, a quiet young man from a part-member family. After a sincere prayer, Samuel received an answer through a dream, confirming God's reality. He later told the missionaries that he was experiencing unprecedented happiness because he was keeping the commandments. After Samuel's baptism (which his anti-church mother attended), his family continued progressing, with both his father and mother eventually getting baptized a year later. Caitlyn concluded that true humility is confidence "in the Lord".Evan’s Experience: Evan, an accomplished athlete and hard worker, also recognized he relied on his "own understanding". His moment came three months into his mission when he was called to be a trainer, despite feeling unprepared and not speaking Portuguese well. Facing a situation "out of [his] control," he turned to the Lord. He found direction in Proverbs 3:5-6: "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding". Evan explains that the missionary purpose is to invite people to link their identity with Christ, making a covenant where one becomes a "new creature". This new confidence allows him to continue working, even if success isn't immediately visible, because he trusts the Lord.They urge listeners to develop the habit of "daily humble, brokenhearted turning to God and asking for him to guide us" to attain the fullness of joy that comes from having a relationship with Him.

Send us Fan MailThis episode features Sister Megan Johnson, who discusses powerful principles related to revelation leading to conversion (Principle Two) and dealing with hard things (Principle Six). The podcast aims to help listeners prepare for their missions, find inspiration, and learn tools.Megan Johnson is a BYU graduate studying mathematics education and is preparing for grad school. She served from March 2020 to October 2021 in the Louisiana Baton Rouge mission, having originally been called to the Spanish-speaking Argentina Resistencia mission.Dealing with Hard Things (Principle Six)Megan’s mission was significantly impacted by the "CO thing" (the worldwide pandemic). As a planner, she found the complete disruption of her plans—from going to the Mexico MTC to completing six weeks of online MTC at home learning Spanish for a mission she wouldn't attend—to be difficult. She also dealt with hurricanes while serving. At one point, facing release from her original assignment, she had a panic attack, feeling darkness and depression. During this crisis, she heard a distinct voice in her head saying, "You can do this," which calmed her anxieties.She found profound peace when a friend texted her 2 Nephi 2:24: "But behold, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all things". This revelation, received through the power of the Holy Ghost, helped her trust that God had a plan, even if it differed from her own.Revelation Leads to Conversion (Principle Two)Shawn emphasizes that the singular purpose of missionaries is to lead God’s children to Jesus Christ, which is achieved through faith, repentance, baptism, and the gift of the Holy Ghost. Revelation is the place to start this process. Shawn and Megan teach that scriptures and prayer are the two necessary components for seeking and receiving revelation.Megan recounts that she initially never wanted to serve a mission. After choosing to pray sincerely about serving, she felt a powerful, "calm and peaceful and warm" confirmation that going on a mission was the right decision, even though it was not the answer she initially sought.Regarding scripture study, Megan initially read the Book of Mormon like a "checklist," trying to understand "all the things all at once". Her companion wisely advised her to restart and focus on just one thing. Megan chose to focus on the core doctrine of Christ (faith, repentance, baptism, Holy Ghost, and enduring). By reading with this intent, she found that the book repeatedly preached this singular message, and the scriptures "came alive" for her. She made her study meaningful by applying verses she found daily, leading to immense joy and a stronger testimony.Navigating Doubt and MysteriesMegan, a science and math student, faced a faith crisis when confronted with the topic of evolution. Her companion and district leader asserted that believing in evolution and the Church were incompatible. Megan was "rocked" by the difficulty of reconciling scientific evidence with doctrinal understanding.During a challenging week of searching, she found the scripture Alma 12:10, which speaks of receiving the "greater portion of the word" until one knows the "mysteries of God until he know them in full". This scripture did not provide a definitive answer on evolution, but through the Spirit, she realized that she could move forward with faith, knowing that she would eventually figure out the mysteries. This allowed her to "put her question on a shelf" and have confidence in the foundations of her existing testimony (prayer, Heavenly Father's love, and the truth of the Book of Mormon).Megan encourages listeners preparing for missions to make their scripture study meaningful and personal, suggesting that they always start with a sincere question, eve

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the Mission Stories Podcast features the experience of Elder Sa'ne Thompson, who recently returned home after serving a two-year mission in Angola, Luanda, Africa. He has been home for just two weeks.The episode focuses primarily on the urgency of missionary work, with a specific emphasis on the principle that revelation leads to conversion.The Angola Mission, located on the southwest coast of Africa, is a relatively new mission, having opened in 2011. The field is described as an "exciting environment" where the work is vast; Thompson reported that his mission baptizes at least 200 people a month mission-wide. However, the organizational structure is young, with only two stakes in the entire country when Thompson arrived (the second was formed right after he got there) and few organized wards. Most groups were branches or districts.Thompson emphasized the "wide-open" nature of the work, noting that he often helped open new provinces (states) where people would stare at the missionaries because the church was strange and new to them. Many people in these areas had never even seen or heard of the Book of Mormon.The Scope of the Work Shawn highlighted the sheer amount of work remaining, noting that only 2.05% of Americans are members of the Church of Jesus Christ, and only .22% of the world has received the restored gospel. He used the context of Angola to motivate listeners, stressing that missionaries are participating in the "great sacred work" of gathering Israel, which feels akin to the experiences of early prophets and saints.Stories of Faith and Conversion Thompson shared marvelous stories demonstrating simple faith leading to conversion:Papa Alu: A pastor who had bounced between various churches due to different problems. Seeking to know which church was true, he performed an intensive 40-day fast, sleeping outside. He received a dream showing a yellow building and three missionaries (two white, one black) holding a book. He found this exact group, and the building, on the day the group was being established as a branch. He was taught remotely and became a strong, solid member, later called as the first local branch president.The Grandma: An older woman (pushing 70-80) with simple faith who often beat the missionaries to church. She wanted to know if the Book of Mormon was true, so she said a prayer, placed the book under her pillow, and received a spiritual dream.Malange Province: While opening this new province, a child of a member handed a flyer to the local police commander. The commander was converted and later helped missionary efforts extensively; within four or five months, his entire street had been baptized into the Church.Conversion vs. Numbers: They discussed the critical difference between focusing on baptism numbers and achieving true conversion. Elder Thompson realized that missionaries must teach converts to rely on the Word of God or other members, rather than making them dependent on the missionary relationship, which could cause them to leave when the missionary transferred.Elder Thompson found that his most effective teaching focused on repentance—not merely baptism. By focusing on repentance as a daily process of growing and overcoming the natural man, he found he could better inspire people to accept the gospel and ultimately lead them to Christ. Shawn concluded the episode by echoing this call for listeners and missionaries to humbly repent, emphasizing that this is the path to coming to Christ.

Send us Fan MailThis episode features Returned Missionary Taylor Judd, who served in the Paraguay Asunción Mission. Shawn warmly welcomes Taylor, noting their long-standing friendship, though he humorously calls her to "repentance" for taking so long to appear on the podcast.Taylor served for eight months and is preparing to attend Utah State for nursing school. She shares unique details about her mission area, noting that Paraguay is landlocked, bordering Brazil, Argentina, and Bolivia. While Spanish is spoken, everyone also speaks the indigenous language Guaraní (Guadana/Guadin), which is completely unlike Spanish.The Power in the Word of GodThe central theme of the episode is Principle number four: "The word of God answers every question". Shawn emphasizes that the scriptures are the most important tool a missionary can use, containing a "secret" and a power beyond mere knowledge that leads souls to Christ.Taylor admits that before her mission, she read the scriptures but was merely "putting a lot of information in my head" and never felt an "overwhelming spirit and joy" or was "astonished". Her mission experience transformed this perspective.In her first transfer, her mission president challenged her to read the entire Book of Mormon in Spanish in under three months, despite her limited understanding of the language. She met the goal, but upon reporting, the president told her she needed to read it again, stressing that she had to "apply what you're reading" and truly understand it—a process Shawn likened to feasting upon the words of Christ (2 Nephi 32). During this deeper study, Taylor found that she felt "so much power from that book" and "so much peace". She recognized that the scriptures bring a "sweet spirit" that invites peace and joy during hard times.Witnessing the Living WaterTaylor shared the remarkable conversion story of the family of Asusa, Rosio, and Cerillo. After feeling an impression to stop at their house and clapping on the door, they met 14-year-old Asusa and her mother, Rosio, who was a content Catholic and initially uninterested. The missionaries faced many obstacles, including the family hiding from them and having the wrong contact number.Despite expectations that men in Paraguay would be less interested, the father, Cerillo, became the most deeply interested. Because the family was "so invested," the missionaries visited every single day. Cerillo would routinely be sitting outside with his Book of Mormon, which was heavily marked up with questions and bookmarks. He told the missionaries his life was "different now" and that he could not "deny the blessings" and positive changes in his family resulting from reading the Book of Mormon, praying, and going to church. Taylor realized his interest came from the power he felt, not just the information. Shawn emphasized that Cerillo was discovering the "living water" found in Christ's words, much like the Samaritan woman at the well.The entire family eventually got baptized. Taylor was transferred before the daughter and father were baptized, but she received permission to return for Rosio’s baptism. Seeing them caused her to cry with intense joy, confirming that seeing others discover the gospel keeps one's own testimony "going and growing".Final CounselShawn and Taylor discussed how the power in the scriptures, delivered through the Holy Ghost, transforms hearts, citing examples like the astonishment of listeners when Christ spoke, Joseph Smith reading James 1:5, and the disciples on the road to Emmaus whose hearts burned as the Savior quoted scripture.Taylor advised preparing missionaries to study the Book of Mormon, calling it the "cornerstone of our religion" and the book that sets the Church apart. Shawn concluded that coming to Christ or leading someone else to Ch

Send us Fan MailThis episode features Elder Chase Lindsey, who is preparing to depart for the Scotland Ireland mission. Shawn and Chase share a unique connection rooted in their enthusiasm and faith, seeing themselves as "brothers in Christ". Their initial spark of friendship four years prior involved a debate over favorite bands and music, a playful rivalry that still persists concerning Rush, U2, and the Pogues.The core theme of the episode is an expansion of Principle number one: "Choose ye this day again and again". This focus was inspired by recent events, including Elder Brown’s talk in General Conference.The Fire of Faith and Constant ChoiceThey discuss how agency—the power to discern and choose between right and wrong—requires constant exertion. Chase uses the powerful analogy of faith as a fire. While the fire requires a spark (the initial choice) and air (God’s power/providence), it requires fuel—our daily choices—to burn brighter. Without constantly adding fuel, faith "recedes," "starts becoming ashes," and is no longer a fire.The emphasis on choosing "again and again" is essential because of mortality; the "hot all the time" zone doesn't exist, even for inspired leaders. Everyone needs to re-choose and recommit. Elder Brown pleaded for listeners to "take charge of your testimony", while Elder Bednar stressed that repentance must be done "over and over again with real intent". Just as Samuel the Lamanite had to make a choice of faith with "every single step up that wall," we must daily choose righteousness. Repentance is not a one-time event; it is a daily, constant process.Three Key CommitmentsChase shared three specific choices he has committed to making over and over again:1. Deliberately Partaking of the Sacrament: Chase strives to view the sacrament as an altar, recognizing the suffering and death of the Savior. This deliberate choice fosters godly sorrow, which "worketh repentance to salvation". By making this choice weekly, we renew covenants and allow our sins, though "red as scarlet," to become "white as wool".2. Surrounding Yourself with the Right People: Chase notes this is a "constant day-to-day decision". He values surrounding himself with "good Christlike people", particularly those in mission prep classes and his friend, Izzy Bueler. Izzy is cited as an example of consistently choosing to go to the temple and feasting upon the words of Christ. This choice fosters camaraderie and knits hearts together in unity and love.3. Scripture Study and Journaling: (Briefly mentioned as an important commitment).The episode concludes with the encouragement that as Chase serves his mission, he should follow the instruction to serve with all his "heart, might, mind, and strength," a commitment that will guarantee joy and success.

Send us Fan MailThis episode features guest Mandy Malm, a recently returned missionary who served in Riverside, California, speaking Spanish. The episode focuses on Principle Number 6: "You Can't Bring Me Down," which explores how developing an identity rooted in Christ enables individuals and Missionaries to overcome life's most challenging experiences. Shawn opens the discussion by sharing the origin of the episode's title, recounting a high school hazing experience where he was squeezed into a trash can by seniors. In that moment of humiliation, he chose not to let the experience "bring me down," drawing inspiration from an empowering thrash metal song. He asserts that this choice to respond positively to adversity serves as a life lesson.The conversation establishes a spectrum of "hard" experiences, ranging from the relatable disappointments of mission life—such as investigators canceling baptisms or companions ghosting appointments—to more profound suffering. Mandy is introduced as someone who dealt with profound hardship: the passing of her mother exactly two months before she left for her mission.Mandy's Journey and the Power of Identity Mandy shares that her mother fought cancer for many years, beginning when Mandy was 11. Throughout her youth, Mandy identified herself primarily through worldly roles such as "the optimistic one," a singer, a soccer player, or her mother's "nurse". The principle discussed is that while these identities are good, they lack the power to sustain a person through truly heavy, life-shattering events, like the loss of a parent.The discussion emphasizes the necessity of grounding one's identity in the fact that they are a child of God, citing the example of Moses resisting temptation because he internalized the message, "Moses, my son".A Near-Death Spiritual Experience Mandy recounts a terrifying experience that happened two weeks after her mother's death:• While staying at a friend's house, Mandy woke up paralyzed and unable to move or breathe, feeling an overwhelming, intense darkness surrounding her.• She felt certain she was going to die and offered a desperate prayer.• Her sister woke up and told her she had to "raise your arm to the square and say, 'In the name of Jesus Christ, like be gone or go away'".• Upon raising her arm and commanding the presence to leave in Christ's name, Mandy immediately felt a "rush of light and of the spirit" and could move and breathe again.• Mandy stated this experience taught her that she could overcome anything completely by relying on Jesus Christ, who came for her because he is her brother.The Virtue of the Word of God and Service Shawn recounts his own harrowing missionary story in Ukraine in 1995, where he and his companion were kidnapped by the Russian mafia. Instead of fighting or jumping out the window, Shawn remembered his identity as a servant of Christ. He applied the principle from Alma 31:5 that the "preaching of the word of God had a more powerful effect to change the hearts and the minds" than any weapon. By non-stop preaching the gospel and eternal families, he filled the vehicle with the Spirit, completely confounding the kidnappers, who abandoned their intent to harm them.Mandy also shares a story about teaching the Atonement using a visual aid:• She and her companion taught an investigator named Javier Arias, who had throat and mouth cancer and struggled to speak.• They used an original nail from Joseph Smith and Emma Smith's house (given to her companion, Sami, while she served as a historic site missionary) to represent the suffering of Christ.• They also used water to represent blood and a stone to symbolize the resurrection, helping Javier connect deeply with the Atonement. Javier w

Send us Fan MailThis episode features Shawn speaking with three preparing missionaries: Avery (Philippines Cavite, Tagalog speaking), Grace (Boston, Massachusetts, Spanish speaking), and Olivia (Texas Houston East, Spanish speaking; Grace and Olivia are twin sisters). AShawn emphasizes that this episode is valuable because the guests' journey—moving from passive participation to active faith—is a common experience. The conversation centers on the crucial transition from passively making decisions (like attending Sacrament meeting because it is expected, or doing things like a "blind faith sheep") to actively owning one's choices. The guests acknowledged that, as children, their approach to faith was often described as "lukewarm".The missionaries detail their individual paths to serving: Avery's choice was active despite initial conflict; Grace's initial decision was passive (due to her patriarchal blessing), though her preparation became active; and Olivia's decision was passive, influenced by the peer activity surrounding mission calls at BYU.The "Freakout" and Seeking Answers A critical segment focuses on the collective "freakout" moment they experienced as they confronted the reality of their missions:• Avery panicked when non-LDS friends and coworkers asked difficult questions about the gospel, anti-Church misconceptions, and history that she could not answer, highlighting a lack of necessary knowledge despite her faith.• Grace questioned the purpose of the Church after seeing external claims of happiness without the gospel and struggled specifically with questions about women and the priesthood.• Olivia became anxious during her endowment interview, finding aspects of the temple ceremony "not normal" and "weird," leading her to worry about teaching doctrines she didn't fully believe.Shawn encourages responding to these doubts by actively seeking answers through "feasting upon the words of Christ" and prayer. Grace shared a powerful experience where, after accepting the challenge to read scriptures for two hours daily and praying for a desire to serve, she immediately felt an "overwhelming, crazy feeling of joy and peace". Olivia's personal concerns were alleviated when she had a chance to teach the gospel and discuss these hard topics (like polygamy, Freemasonry, and the priesthood) with a struggling friend, realizing that serving others helped her understand her own struggles.Tackling Hard Topics The conversation dives into several challenging topics:• Ceremony and the "Cult" Comment: Olivia's perception that the temple felt "cult-like" is addressed by comparing temple ceremony and ritual to common societal rituals, such as high school graduation (which involves "square hats," "robes," and symbolic actions like moving a tassel). Avery insightfully argues that ritual and symbolism are universal methods of storytelling and teaching that ensure the message is received universally across all times and cultures.• Freemasonry and Temple Ordinances: They discuss concerns that Joseph Smith may have "stolen" from Freemasonry. Shawn explains that, similar to Moses using contemporary symbols (the serpent and the staff) to teach faith in Christ, Joseph Smith used familiar organizational elements (like signs and handshakes) to establish revealed covenants, highlighting human participation in the divine process (similar to the Brother of Jared bringing stones to be touched by the Lord).

Send us Fan MailThis episode features Shawn and Lauren emphasizing that the ultimate mission of the church is not just salvation, but the celestial kingdom and exaltation.The core principle discussed is that the temple is "more imperative than the mission". While missionary work is vital, the eternal perspective places a greater focus on what individuals will do in the temple for their own souls. The hosts note that church culture often prioritizes mission preparation over temple preparation, partly due to the sacred nature of the temple making it less openly discussed.The episode delves into the profound difference between:• Salvation: Defined by overcoming the "great dilemma." This dilemma arises from two eternal laws: "no unclean thing can dwell in the presence of God", and "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God". Without divine intervention, this means no one can return to God's presence. Jesus Christ provides the "good news" (the meaning of "gospel") to overcome this. Salvation is achieved through faith, repentance, baptism, and the gift of the Holy Ghost, leading to being "at one" with God again, overcoming both physical and spiritual death (separation). Salvation is a gift available to all who accept Christ, even those who inherit terrestrial or telestial kingdoms.• Exaltation: This is a distinct and higher goal than salvation, directly tied to the temple. It cannot be achieved without the ordinances and covenants of the temple, specifically five additional covenants received during the endowment, and ultimately, the sealing covenant. Exaltation is defined by the "continuation of lives," "eternal lives," and "glory added upon their heads forever and ever". This means progressing to become like God by becoming a creator and continuing to create life, not just for oneself but also for one's posterity.The episode encourages missionaries and members to focus on preparing for and understanding temple covenants as the most effective way to prepare for a mission and to help others embark on their own path to exaltation. The joy of missionary work, they conclude, comes from sharing this "good news" and helping others make covenants that lead to this ultimate potential as children of God.

Send us Fan MailThis episode, titled "The Joseph Smith Episode," features Shawn and Lauren , aiming to prepare listeners for missions and discuss the gospel of Jesus Christ.The episode delves into two core principles through the lens of Joseph Smith's First Vision story (specifically the first 15 verses of his history):• Principle 1: Deliberately choosing how you serve. This highlights the importance of being "hot" or "cold" rather than "lukewarm," drawing on Revelation 3:15-17. Joseph Smith, at 14, exemplified this by actively questioning "Who of all these parties are right?" instead of passively following his family into the Presbyterian faith, demonstrating he "wasn't a sheep". The hosts contrast this with a modern tendency towards "passive acceptance of truth," often influenced by social media.• Principle 2: Revelation as the only way to sufficient faith. This faith leads to repentance, covenants, and receiving the Holy Ghost. Joseph's experience with James 1:5 ("If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God") illustrates God's "exact formula" or "experiment" for discovering truth. The scripture "entered with great force into every feeling of my heart," which Lauren identifies as the Holy Ghost.Key takeaways from Joseph's story and its application include:• Sincere desire and diligent action: The "experiment" involves "feasting upon the words of Christ and praying" with intention and pondering, as mere blind reading is insufficient. Lauren shared a story of an investigator whose "desire was to feel the Holy Ghost," leading her to diligently read and pray until she recognized the Spirit and saw her own journey reflected in Joseph's.• Opposition to truth: Joseph's encounter with a "thick darkness" that bound his tongue is presented as Satan's direct opposition to his quest for truth. This relates to modern challenges faced by those seeking to draw closer to God.• The power of the Holy Ghost: While Joseph saw God the Father and Jesus Christ, the episode emphasizes that the "brightness and glory [that] defy all description" which convinced him of the truth was the Holy Ghost. Missionaries must help others discern this spiritual witness, as demonstrated by the tragic story of Baghdan who left the church expecting physical manifestations rather than recognizing the Spirit.The episode concludes by urging listeners to engage in a "relentless pursuit" of truth, not allowing discomfort or circumstances to dim their desire, and to serve God with "all your heart, might, mind, and strength," just as Joseph Smith did. By following Joseph's process, individuals can receive personal revelation and find joy on the path of conversion to Christ.

Send us Fan MailIn this call-back episode Shawn speaks with Sister Lauren Hendricks shortly after her return from her mission, highlighting her struggle to find purpose post-mission. The episode's central principle is "The Word of God Answers Every Question," emphasizing that while scriptures may not give specific details, they provide principles that lead to answers for all of life's questions.Key takeaways from the discussion include:• The Holy Ghost's Role: When scriptures are used, the Holy Ghost is present to confirm the truth, carrying it directly to the heart. Lauren asserts that the "most powerful tool in conversion is the spirit combined with scriptures".• Missionary Purpose: Missionaries are not meant to persuade with their own words but to deliver scriptures, inspire others to read them, and help them recognize the Holy Ghost they feel.• Scriptural Power in Practice:    ◦ The host recounts having a pregnant investigator read Moroni 8:7-12 about infant baptism; the woman cried, saying, "I know that's true" because she felt the Holy Ghost, demonstrating the power of scripture over articulate words.    ◦ Lauren shared how Alma 31:5 initially scared her due to her lack of scriptural knowledge, but daily personal study enabled the Spirit to bring relevant scriptures to mind, making her an "instrument in the hands of the Lord".    ◦ She also shared the story of Edwin, a young father grieving his wife's passing, who "fell in love with the Book of Mormon". By reading chapters on the Plan of Salvation, he gained a witness of God's perfect plan, finding peace and eventually being baptized.• Dedication to Study: The episode stresses that the "difference between good and great missionaries" is a "full hour of personal study". This consistent effort to "feast upon the word of Christ" allows missionaries to invite the Spirit into every interaction.• Transformation: The host praises Lauren's transformation from a "punk kid" to a "converted disciple of Christ" in 18 months, attributing it to her decision to serve and "feast upon the words of Christ". The episode encourages missionaries, especially those learning new languages, to "Give the loaves and the fishes"—do what they can, and the Lord will magnify their efforts through the power of the scriptures.

Send us Fan MailThis episode features a candid conversation with Elder Brayden Hendricks, who has just returned from his mission in England, Birmingham. Shawn, who has known Brayden and his "triplet" sister, Lauren, since high school, explores the pivotal choices that transformed Brayden from a "lukewarm" teenager into an "on fire" missionary.The central theme revolves around Principle 1: the choice to be "hot" or "cold" rather than "lukewarm," drawing heavily on Revelation 3:15-17. Brayden openly shares his journey, admitting he was lukewarm in high school, even turning "cold" in his junior and senior years. He continued in a "very lukewarm" state through BYU and even into the MTC and his first mission transfer.A significant turning point occurred during an exchange with a zone leader in Birmingham City. This elder, through "high love and high expectation," prompted Brayden to confront his own lack of commitment without direct accusation. Seeing his pirated music and texts, and being asked "Who do you want to be on your mission?" led Brayden to a personal "call to repentance". This resonated with the scripture in 1 Kings 18:21, which speaks of being "halted between two opinions".Key motivations for Brayden's transformation included:• An "ownership mentality" and the desire to make his parents and mission president proud.• An admiration for dedicated missionaries, including one who had personally paid for his mission.• His self-created "Parable of the Dishes," where he recounts a moment from his youth watching his tired mother do dishes while he played video games. This experience, akin to Elder James Faust's story of his grandmother gathering wood, taught Brayden about moving beyond selfishness to thinking of and loving others. This newfound love for others became a driving force for his dedication.The episode emphasizes that the "field is white" not just for baptisms, but for "reaping" conversions—which includes people feeling the Spirit, making commitments, and growing their faith through the process of faith, repentance, baptism, and the gift of the Holy Ghost. Brayden shares a story of teaching a new Christian named Manoj about loving God and neighbors as the first step to building a relationship with God, illustrating this principle.The discussion also highlights the cost of being "all in," requiring the sacrifice of fears, pride, laziness, and disobedience, as discussed in a quote by Tad R. Callister. This commitment leads to missionaries becoming "instruments in the hands of God" and experiencing a "rebirth" in Christ, learning to apply their hard work to something bigger than themselves.Brayden's main advice for future missionaries is to "be 1% better every day" and to "be all in," echoing Elder Holland's counsel to "work so hard that you have to be brought home on a stretcher". This dedication results in knowing you "earned your pillow" at the end of the day, feeling happy and exhausted from diligent effort.

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the "Mission Stories Podcast" features Elder Mason Thunstrom, a returned missionary who initially served in the Chile Santiago West mission before returning home due to health challenges to serve as a full-time service missionary in Carlsbad, California. Shawn, greatly impressed by Elder Thunstrom's enthusiasm and presentation on service missions, aims to explore principles that lead to a "marvelous work and a wonder" mission experience, contrasting those who thrive with those who struggle.The episode delves into two core principles:• The Word of God Answers Every Question: The host explains that a missionary's primary tool is the Holy Ghost, which is activated when individuals feast upon the words of Christ. Elder Thunstrom shares his personal journey of embracing this principle:    ◦ He grew up in the gospel but faced high school pressures that forced him to move beyond a "lukewarm" faith and deliberately choose to "feast upon the word of Christ".    ◦ This was a day-to-day, consistent decision motivated by a need for daily spiritual strength and a desire to grow as a disciple, not just be a "passive bystander".    ◦ He began by dedicating specific time to scripture study and continually asking, "What message are my actions sending to God?".    ◦ Despite initial challenges, this consistent effort gradually brought him joy, peace, and revelation, reinforcing his belief that "the trick is just keep going. Keep trying".    ◦ The host corroborates this with his own pre-mission experience, where direct answers didn't come immediately, but an overwhelming desire to read scriptures daily led to profound spiritual changes and answers over time.• "You Can't Bring Me Down" (Dealing with Hardships): This principle emphasizes maintaining happiness and faith despite inevitable challenges. Elder Thunstrom highlights that knowing God's personality as a loving Heavenly Father who has a perfect plan for our growth is crucial for remaining joyful and peaceful through trials. This understanding also helps individuals know their own divine identity as children of God.    ◦ Elder Thunstrom shares his lifelong battle with chronic health issues. Despite a patriarchal blessing promising a full-time mission, his health made serving challenging.    ◦ He testifies that his call to Chile was a miracle and that mission calls are "very personal," with God placing missionaries exactly where they need to be for their growth and to bless others.    ◦ While in Chile, his health significantly worsened due to a severe mold exposure. He continued to serve despite physical and mental exhaustion, spiritually "all in" even when his flesh was weak.    ◦ Upon seeking guidance about returning home, he received an unexpected answer: "I trust you," which, while initially confusing, empowered him to make the decision himself.    ◦ His consistent scripture study provided immense peace during this difficult period of doubt and physical suffering.    ◦ Now serving a service mission at home, Elder Thunstrom finds peace in his decision, recognizing that God has a work for him there, even as his health continues to be challenging. He serves in the temple and continues to learn and grow, emphasizing that God uses willing instruments to bless others, multiplying their small efforts to "feed thousands". He concludes by stating that putting oneself in the work allows God's love and joy to "splash" upon them.

Send us Fan MailThis episode we talk with Elder Ryan McDowell, a returned missionary who served an "unconventional" mission during the COVID-19 pandemic. The episode delves into the principle of choosing to be "hot" (committed and active) over "cold" (rejecting the spirit) or "lukewarm" (indifferent and passive), a central theme highlighted by scriptures from Revelation and First Kings.The episode traces Ryan's journey and the pivotal choices he made:• Foundation in Tragedy: Ryan's initial "hot" choice stemmed from a personal tragedy: his mother's ten-year battle with stage four metastatic breast cancer, which she succumbed to when he was about to turn 19. This profound sadness challenged his passive faith and led him to consciously and deliberately feast upon the words of Christ, especially the Book of Mormon, often reading until 3:00 AM. This experience replaced his sadness with joy, peace, and the Holy Ghost, lighting a spiritual fire within him.• Embracing an Unconventional Assignment: Called originally to Spain, Ryan was reassigned to the Minnesota Minneapolis mission for 18 months due to COVID-19. Despite the disappointment and the challenging circumstances (no in-person proselyting, not entering homes for 11 months), Ryan chose to serve with an enthusiastic, faithful attitude, determined to make his time in Minnesota "worth it" and "build his mission out of bricks," leaving nothing "on the table".• Overcoming Lukewarmness in the Field: Initially, Ryan admits he slipped into a "passive lukewarm state" for about 12 weeks due to the lack of traditional proselyting methods and his trainer's indifference. However, witnessing another elder's diligent work ethic helped him snap out of it, realizing he "had tasted the bitter and wanted the sweet". He then creatively adapted by utilizing social media and paid advertising to identify and reach people genuinely interested in the gospel, even leading to a baptism.• Deepening Relationships in Spain: For the last six months of his mission, Ryan finally served in Spain. Here, he made another crucial "hot" choice: investing significant time in building deep, loving relationships with members, not just using them as tools. This deliberate focus on nurturing connections with "lukewarm" youth and members led to a "perfect victory": a photo showing 17 people, including a family of nine, being baptized or reactivated, all supported by the strong network of members Ryan had loved and served.The episode concludes by emphasizing that Ryan's ability to consistently make "faithful choices" at every crossroads was founded on his initial decision to "feast upon the words of Christ," which ignited his spiritual momentum and allowed him to serve with "no regrets," bringing immense joy.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, Shawn sits down with the "giddy" Thacker Jackson, who is eagerly preparing for his mission to the Georgia Atlanta North Mission, Spanish speaking, commencing in October. This conversation delves deep into the journey of mission preparation, highlighting the pivotal role of revelation leading to conversion.◦ Consistent Gospel Study: He became an active participant in a seven-week mission prep course, attending it "eight, nine, 10 times" over four years, totaling around 70 classes. Thacker emphasizes that he felt the Spirit every time, learning new things and engaging in uplifting discussions that kept him "on fire".◦ Impact of Mission Stories: A crucial part of his preparation involved listening to the mission stories of others, including his father's bedtime stories, the host's experiences, and those shared by ward leaders. These stories inspired him, showing him the "light," "power," and "joy" that came from serving a mission.◦ Line Upon Line, Precept Upon Precept: Thacker highlights the principle from 2 Nephi 28:30, explaining that his spiritual growth and convictions were not a single grand event but a steady accumulation of smaller spiritual experiences. These "line upon line" moments built a strong spiritual foundation.◦ Service and the Holy Ghost: He recalls feeling the Holy Ghost during acts of service, such as "heart attacking" (leaving paper hearts with kind messages and treats for others) and administering the sacrament to the elderly. These experiences taught him that "service is good and it makes you feel good".• Shawn's Mission Preparation Story:    ◦ Seeking Conviction: Shawn describes his initial "lukewarm" approach to the Church and his desire to move beyond passive belief to truly know if the gospel was true.    ◦ The Mountain Motif: He recounts his intentional journey up a mountain, symbolizing effort, seclusion, and seeking a "higher, pure perspective". There, he prayed for answers to four specific questions: if God lives, if Jesus Christ lives, if Joseph Smith was a prophet, and if the scriptures were true.    ◦ Revelation Through Desire and Action: Initially, he received "nothing" on the mountain. However, an overwhelming desire to read the scriptures "stirred" within him – an answer from God to "go learn of me". This led to months of diligent scripture study and prayer.    ◦ Confirmations in Sacred Spaces: Shawn received a powerful confirmation of Jesus Christ's existence in the celestial room of the Salt Lake Temple, connecting back to his earlier mountain prayer. Later, in his mission field in Ukraine, while walking among literal "mountains" of dirt from coal mines, he received a clear revelation of God's existence.• Thacker's Powerful Culminating Experience:    ◦ Witnessing Under Pressure: Just two weeks before this podcast, while out cliff jumping at night with friends (to evade police, as it's not illegal but deemed unsafe), Thacker found himself in two spiritual discussions. First, with a drunk woman who asked if they were Christian, and later with a friend who had drifted from the church and questioned its doctrines.    ◦ Bearing Testimony, Gaining Knowledge: Despite feeling unprepared to answer complex doctrinal questions, Thacker bore his simple testimony: "I know God the Father lives. I know Jesus Christ lives and was resurrected. I know Joseph Smith was a prophet and I know the Book of Mormon is true".◦ Profound Revelation: In that very moment of declaring these truths, Thacker experienced a profound, undeniable spiritual confirmation. He states, "I know without a doubt in my mind that this is true... I believe it with all my heart". He couldn't stop smiling and felt an

Send us Fan MailThis episode of the "Mission Stories Podcast" features a conversation with Sister Molly Baxter, a returned missionary who served in the Michigan Detroit mission, including the "8 Mile" area. Molly highlights her faithful and happy mission experience, noting that not all returned missionaries have such positive experiences.The central theme of the episode is that miracles and angels are a right for those "set apart as a minister of the Lord Jesus Christ to preach his gospel". Molly and Shawn define miracles, suggesting they are not solely large-scale events like parting the Red Sea, but also include:• Divine meetings where one encounters individuals who profoundly change their life.• Small, consistent spiritual experiences that build faith, such as waking up with a positive attitude or gaining insight from scripture study.• The "mighty change of heart" experienced through the Atonement of Jesus Christ, which they describe as the greatest miracle.Molly and Shawn share several personal miracle stories from their missions:• Tishi's Healing: Molly recounts the story of Tishi, a 65-year-old woman needing knee replacement surgery, who was miraculously healed and able to walk immediately after receiving a priesthood blessing, fulfilling a bold promise made by an elder that she wouldn't need surgery. Tishi was later baptized after six months of teaching and her health remarkably improved.• The Malakansi Woman: Shawn shares an experience with an elderly Russian woman, one of the last "Malikansi," whose ancestors had sought the true church with authority for generations. She recognized the restored gospel, was baptized, and passed away about a week later.• Mallerie at the Smoothie Cafe: Molly tells of a young woman working at a Tropical Smoothie Cafe drive-thru who was on the verge of ending her life. Molly, following a prompting, spoke to her about being a missionary for Jesus Christ, which the woman interpreted as an angel sent from God and a direct answer to her prayer for a sign, saving her life.The episode emphasizes that these are the true miracles that matter most, as they pertain to the eternal salvation and spiritual growth of individuals, which is God's primary work and glory. They encourage listeners to have faith and expect these types of miracles in their own service. Molly also shares a quote by President Hinckley, emphasizing that serving the gospel is not a sacrifice but an investment with eternal dividends.

Send us Fan MailThis episode features special guest Sister Riley Stone (affectionately known as "Stony"). The core theme revolves around "Revelation and The Spirit" and how divine revelation grows faith, leads to repentance, and ultimately to "pure joy" through the Atonement of Jesus Christ. The podcast aims to inspire and provide knowledge for those preparing for missions.Key insights and Riley's story include:• A Journey from Faith Crisis to Conversion: Riley, from Utah, experienced a faith crisis with her family around age 12, leading to a five-year hiatus from regular church attendance.• Subtle Beginnings of Discerning the Spirit: At 14, attending EFY (now FSY), she "loved it" because she was "surrounded by the gospel of Jesus Christ". Though she didn't discern the Holy Ghost at the time, she later realized it was God's love bringing her peace and joy. This experience planted a "seed" for future missionary service.• The "Rock Bottom" and a Divine Call: At 16 or 17, Riley hit "rock bottom," feeling "miserable," "sad," and "anxious," a period where she was "compelled to be humble". In a moment of desperation, after listening to "cringey" youth albums, she heard an audible voice, not her own, command, "Riley, get on your knees and pray". This happened three times, akin to the experience in 3 Nephi 11:3-4, where people initially didn't understand the voice but eventually opened their "ears to hear it" spiritually. Riley initially resisted due to tiredness and having been distant from God.• The Transformative Prayer: Driven by a deep hunger to do the right thing and escape unhappiness (similar to Enos 4), Riley finally knelt down and sobbed. In that moment, she "knew that God loved me" for the first time in a tangible way. She felt a "burning in my bosom" and a powerful hug, realizing the Atonement of Jesus Christ covers more than just sins, but also heals pain and ache. This profound experience convinced her of God's existence, His personal love for her, and the possibility of happiness.• Acting on Revelation: This revelatory experience marked the beginning of her true conversion, leading her to consistently attend seminary and young women's activities, and begin studying scriptures. Her story illustrates the principle of Revelation 3:20, where God knocks, but individuals must "open the door" through choice and action.• Missionary Preparation and Impact: Despite her powerful conversion, Riley felt inadequate for her mission due to her long gap in church attendance and lack of basic gospel knowledge. She overcame this by "feasting upon the words of Christ" in the Book of Mormon and Preach My Gospel in the MTC. This intensive study enhanced her understanding of the Atonement and how to access it, directly confirming her personal experiences. Lauren testifies that Riley became an "amazing" missionary, notably helping an investigator named Nicole, who was at "rock bottom," to also recognize that "Revelation is what leads to our conversion," ultimately leading to Nicole's baptism and a greater understanding of repentance and the Atonement.• Advice for Future Missionaries: Riley advises listeners to prioritize experiences with the Atonement of Jesus Christ, as it provides healing and enabling power, crucial for navigating the challenges of missionary work and gaining a deeper understanding of life's purpose. The episode concludes by reaffirming that everyone has the right to receive divine revelation that will grow their faith and lead to "pure joy" through Christ's Atonement.

Send us Fan MailThis episode of Mission Stories Podcast features returned missionary Sister Emma Stanford, focusing on the theme "Revelation Leads to Conversion". The discussion explores how God communicates through the Holy Ghost and the transformative power of discerning and acting upon that revelation.Sister Emma Stanford's Mission and Boldness: Emma served in the Arkansas Little Rock Mission, called specifically to speak American Sign Language (ASL). Due to the niche nature of ASL, her team found investigators creatively through social media videos and member referrals. Emma was known as "the wild child" during her training due to her boldness as a missionary.Discerning and Experiencing the Holy Ghost:Emma suggests there are "no such thing as coincidences because I think God's always in the fabric of our lives", often recognizing promptings after acting on them.Lauren adds that the Holy Ghost is present for the faithful due to baptismal covenants, even if one cannot always "recognize these promptings".Emma most strongly recognized the Holy Ghost when testifying to investigators or promising blessings. She described feeling "power," "truth," and an "amped" energy, sometimes being brought to tears.Profoundly, Emma describes her personal experience of the Holy Ghost as feeling "the love of Christ"—an "incomprehensible," "overpowering" love. Lauren affirms that Christ's teaching with love is the "most powerful tool in conversion".The Holy Ghost is confirmed wherever charity and service are present, as well as in ordinances of the priesthood.Emma exemplifies acting with faith and boldness, believing the Lord will "back me up" without needing to wait for a discernible "nudge". She shared a story of "putting her foot in the door" of a reluctant lady's house, an act she describes as being "led by the spirit, not knowing beforehand the things which I should do" (1 Nephi 4:6). This bold action immediately changed the lady's demeanor, leading to an "awesome lesson".Shawn shares a similar experience of boldly promising an investigator a job if he read scriptures, believing the Spirit confirmed God would "not make me a liar".Lauren emphasizes that the Holy Ghost "will always share his voice when we testify with ours," fulfilling the promise that when one speaks "by the power of the Holy Ghost, the power of the Holy Ghost carrieth it unto the hearts of the children of men" (2 Nephi 33:1). This is especially encouraging for missionaries learning new languages, as the message will still get through.A practical tip for missionaries is to sing hymns and then ask, "How do you feel?" to help people recognize the peaceful presence of the Spirit.Spiritual Discerning of Truth: The episode delves into 3 Nephi 11, where the voice of God spoke from heaven to thousands. Initially, they "understood not the voice which they heard with their ears," even though it was not harsh or loud. However, despite being a "small voice," it "did pierce them... to the very soul, and it caused their hearts to burn". It was not until the third time that they "did open their ears to hear it" spiritually and fully understood.The host explains that God communicates directly with our spirits. Emma adds that the goal is to help people "see" (understand spiritually) rather than just "looking" (perceiving physically).The host recounted a pivotal MTC experience where a teacher helped him recognize the Holy Ghost's presence by asking "Do you feel that?", helping him realize he had been feeling the Spirit his "whole life" without discerning it.Go forth with boldness and faith in God, trusting that He will empower them and that the Holy Ghost will confirm t

Send us Fan MailIn this episode we interview Lauren for the first time. Lauren had only been home for a week when we recorded this episode. The episode delves into the transformative nature of a full-time mission, describing it as a "once-in-a-lifetime opportunity" where distractions are set aside to focus solely on the Lord. Lauren emphasizes that there's "literally no other time" in life to dedicate oneself so completely to God's work.Serving with All Your Heart, Might, Mind, and Strength: Drawing on Doctrine and Covenants (D&C) 4, Shawn and Lauren discuss the scriptural imperative to serve God completely. This commitment is not tied to outward results but to one's personal desire and determination. Lauren recounts how success as a missionary is defined by this commitment and determination to press forward despite challenges and "jump from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm".The Promises of Serving a Mission: The conversation highlights three main scriptural promises that result from serving in the "right way":A Marvelous and Wonderful Experience: Just as Isaiah foretold a "marvelous work" in the latter days, serving with full commitment leads to a "marvelous and a wonderful experience".Personal Joy and Conversion to Christ: Alma's experience of "exceeding joy" after repentance is used to illustrate the profound personal conversion to Christ and the "eternal joy" that comes from understanding the gospel and one's relationship with the Lord. Lauren shares her decision to serve based on President Russell M. Nelson's promise of finding "no greater joy than in serving your brothers and sisters in the Lord," a promise she found to be true.Eternal Joy with Those You Help: Referencing D&C 18, Shawn explains that "how great is his joy in the soul that repenteth". The episode emphasizes the "great... joy" one experiences when helping even "one soul" come to Christ, forming "tightest, closest bonds... for eternity". This joy is described as "addicting," motivating further service.Lauren shares a powerful personal story about her mission experience, particularly a challenging period when she was switched to Spanish work after only four months, despite limited Spanish skills, and paired with a difficult companion. She describes feeling a loss of control and "miserable".A pivotal moment came when Lauren, at her "rock bottom," knelt down and pleaded with the Lord "with all the energy of [her] heart," similar to Enos's wrestle before God. This experience led her to align her will with the Lord's, choosing to be molded into an instrument in His hands. From this point, she woke up with a "quiet confidence" and a renewed spirit, believing the Lord would "provide a way" for her to carry out His work.This spiritual breakthrough led her to apply the practical principle: "Open your mouth and find listeners". Despite her limited Spanish, she began talking to everyone, making a "fool of [herself]," but recognizing that her desire to talk outweighed any embarrassment. Shawn recounts a similar experience from his mission in Ukraine, where an Apostle promised fluency if missionaries spoke to everyone they met. Lauren attests to rapid language acquisition and finding "prepared" individuals like a man in McDonald's who already had a strong testimony of Joseph Smith.The episode concludes by highlighting the conversion story of Carlos, a man found through Facebook who was at "rock bottom". Lauren describes how the "gift of tongues" was evident as she taught him, helping him to pray and read the Book of Mormon, which brought him joy and led to his baptism and becoming a devoted disciple. The episode reiterates that a mission is a "marvelous and wonderful experience if you do it right" by serving with a

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, we feature Reha Poulson, who shares her powerful journey of conversion and preparation for her mission.Reha's Journey of Honest Seeking and Revelation:Ria was born a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and was active until she was 16, when her family stopped attending. Facing significant life changes and a new ward where she knew no one, she "fizzled out" of church activity, making "pretty bad choices" and living a life that was "not righteous at all".Her interest in religion reignited when her mom found a non-denominational Christian church that Reha loved and attended religiously for months. However, a turning point came when people at this new church would ask her why she left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Reha found herself giving unsatisfactory answers like "I don't really know" or "Oh, they lie". This lack of an honest, doctrinal answer was deeply bothering to her soul. She felt "stupid" and embarrassed.This dissatisfaction drove Reha to make a bold decision: she decided to "find a Book of Mormon and prove it wrong". She developed a specific method: she would use a pink colored pencil to mark "all of the horrible, evil, nasty, gross things in the Book of Mormon" and a blue colored pencil to mark the words "Jesus Christ" and things she believed to be true. Her intent was to compile "proof" to show her friends and the Protestant community why she "chose based on doctrine and history" to leave the Church. This felt "more purposeful and meaningful" to her.The Spiritual Breakthrough and Rapid Conversion:Reha started reading the Book of Mormon late at night, beginning with the introduction, marking in pink. However, as she got into the actual verses of 1 Nephi, she found herself marking "a lot" in blue, realizing "Okay, crap. I'm already wrong".Her life-changing moment occurred when she read 1 Nephi Chapter 8, Lehi's vision of the tree of life and the great and spacious building. She "literally saw myself in that building making fun of the people that are in the church on the covenant path". In that moment, she "bursted into tears" and "felt the spirit stronger than I ever had in my entire life". She realized "for the first time in my life" that the Church was true, receiving a powerful "burning in my chest" and a profound sense of "peace and calmness". This personal revelation immediately led her to meet with her bishop the very next Sunday, where she received a temple recommend within days of her powerful experienceKey Scriptural and Spiritual Principles Taught:Feasting Upon the Words of Christ: Reha's experience is a powerful demonstration of the principle from 2 Nephi 32:3: "feast upon the words of Christ". The episode emphasizes that her diligent study, even with an initial intent to disprove, led to the Holy Ghost confirming truth. It encourages all, especially those preparing for missions, to "just start, like just open the book".The Power of Honest Intent: Regardless of one's initial question or intention, if there is a true "intention... to find out the truth, you're going to find it". The Lord desires "sincerity".The Choice to Follow God: Reha's journey illustrates the "hot or cold" principle from Revelation and Elijah's challenge in 1 Kings 18:21, "How long halt ye between two opinions? If the Lord be God, then follow him". Her decision to definitively "choose cold" by attempting to disprove the Book of Mormon ultimately led her "back to the hot" truth.Building on the Rock of Christ: Reha's rapid and deep conversion demonstrates building one's "foundation" upon "the rock of our Redeemer, who is Christ" (Helaman 5:12), which provides a foundation that "will never be shaken".

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, we feature Elder Carter Burrop, who shares his powerful journey of repentance, conversion and preparation for his mission, highlighting crucial scriptural and spiritual principles that apply to all.Key Scriptural and Spiritual Principles:The Choice to Follow God: The episode emphasizes the critical decision to actively choose God's path, referencing Elijah's challenge: "How long halt ye between two opinions? If the Lord be God, then follow him" (1 Kings 18:21). It also draws on Revelation, where the Lord desires us to be "hot or cold," not "lukewarm," because being in between "tears us apart". Carter's personal crossroads story exemplifies this decision, where he told his sister, "I'm either going to be really, really good or really, really bad".A Desire to Know for Oneself: Inspired by his parents' faithful example, Carter began his journey by desiring to "find out for myself" if the gospel was true. This parallels Nephi's desire to "see and hear and know of these things by the power of the Holy Ghost for myself" (1 Nephi 10), and Enos's soul hunger that led him to pray. This personal quest for truth is essential for genuine conversion.Feasting Upon the Words of Christ: The podcast stresses that the only way to "come to Christ" is by learning of Him, primarily by "feasting upon his words". The promise from Moroni 10 is highlighted: reading with real intent and a sincere heart will bring revelation through the Holy Ghost, enabling one to "know the truth of all things". Carter's intense scripture study (six to eight hours a day) resulted in a "love for learning more" and a profound "change of heart".Revelation and the Holy Ghost Lead to Joy: When one truly feasts on the words of Christ, the Holy Ghost becomes "abundant in your soul," leading to "pure joy". This joy is described as a "fruit of the Holy Ghost" and the "absolute result of faith, repentance, and covenants". Carter's experience of profound happiness, even when losing friends and enduring external hardships, illustrates that inner peace and joy are gifts of the Spirit.Repentance as Consistency and a Broken Heart: Repentance is taught not as a one-time event, but as "consistency" and "sincerity," which "takes time". It involves developing a "broken heart and a contrite spirit," a condition of soul that God requires instead of ancient animal sacrifices. Carter's own extended period of repentance allowed him to become "on the same wavelength" and a better missionary.Building on the Rock of Christ: Drawing from Helaman 5:12, the discussion emphasizes building one's "foundation" upon "the rock of our Redeemer, who is Christ," so that "when the devil shall send forth his mighty whirlwinds... it shall have no power over you to drag you down to the gulf of misery and endless woe". Revelation, obtained through consistent spiritual practices, is the "rock".Conversion as a Lifelong Process: The episode clarifies that the goal of missionary work is not just baptism, but helping individuals become "lifelong converts" and "disciples". Baptism is an entry gate to a "lifelong commitment to keep working towards". The ultimate "biggest convert" on a mission, though it sounds "cheesy," is often oneself.The Call to Act Now: Carter passionately urges listeners, particularly those in high school, to "decide right now. Like stop. You can't procrastinate your repentance any longer. It's just it's literally going to kill you". He testifies that acting now, even at the "hardest moment," will lead to "pure joy" and be "worth it 100%".This episode powerfully testifies that true preparation for a mission and for life involves deeply understanding our divine identity, embracing Christ's Atonement, consistently feasting on His words, and engaging in since

Send us Fan MailMission Prep Class 7: "Temple More Imperative Than Your Mission," delves into foundational doctrines crucial for missionaries and members alike, emphasizing the paramount importance of temple preparation over mission preparation.Understanding the "great dilemma" that necessitates Jesus Christ and His Atonement.Key concepts explored include:•The Great Dilemma: Introduced as described by Stephen Robinson in his book Believing Christ, this dilemma highlights the reality faced by all individuals. It is defined by two core scriptures:◦Moses 6:55-57: States that "no unclean thing can enter the presence of God". The discussion uses an analogy of paint on a shirt to illustrate that even a single speck of "uncleanliness" prevents entry into God's presence, regardless of how much "paint" others might have. This law is presented as a just, eternal law with affixed punishments and blessings.◦Romans 3:23: Declares, "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God". Combined, these scriptures mean that every individual, no matter how obedient, is inherently unworthy to enter God's presence on their own.•The Law of Works vs. The Law of the Gospel: The episode draws a clear distinction between two types of "law" mentioned in scripture.◦The "Law of Sin and Death" (or "Law of Works"): This refers to the idea that one could achieve worthiness to enter God's presence solely through perfect obedience to commandments. The sources describe this as a "cursed law" that leads to misery, condemnation, and spiritual death, because no one can keep all commandments perfectly. It's acknowledged that this burden of trying to be perfect can lead to mental health issues. Abraham, for instance, was considered righteous not because he was perfect, but because he believed and repented.◦The "Law of the Spirit of Life in Jesus Christ" (or "Law of the Gospel"): This is the "good news" that overcomes the "bad news" of the law of works. It teaches that Christ takes the fixed punishment for broken laws. This law is founded on faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism, and the gift of the Holy Ghost. Through this, individuals are "justified by faith without the deeds of the law". The discussion also references the April 2023 General Conference talk "The Imperfect Harvest," which clarifies the difference between perfectionism and being perfected in Christ—the latter being a process guided by the Holy Ghost.•Salvation vs. Exaltation: The podcast emphasizes a critical distinction between these two concepts, which many in the church may not fully understand.◦Salvation: Defined as being saved from the "great dilemma" through the law of the gospel, overcoming spiritual (separation from God) and physical (separation of body and spirit) death, and being brought back into God's presence. Salvation is described as "free" because of Christ's Atonement. It means being saved into one of the kingdoms of glory (celestial, terrestrial, or telestial).◦Exaltation: This is the "highest level of the celestial kingdom" and the ultimate purpose of the Church. It is uniquely linked to the concept of "eternal lives" (plural), as found in Doctrine and Covenants 132:23-24. Exaltation signifies eternal progression, a "chain of glory," and the power for "god-like creation". Crucially, it cannot be achieved by an individual alone; it requires entering the "new and everlasting covenant of marriage" in the temple, which is the capstone covenant.

Send us Fan MailIn the Mission Prep Series Class 6: "You Can't Bring Me Down," we tackle the universal topic of mental health and coping with hard things, offering insights for aspiring missionaries. This episode emphasizes two core principles for navigating life's challenges, with a strong focus on the powerful spiritual solution.While acknowledging the pragmatic need to advocate for oneself and address personal challenges before a mission, as demonstrated by Lauren's experience of delaying her mission to become "mentally solid", the episode truly shines a light on the profound spiritual principles that underpin resilience.The Spiritual Solution: Understanding Your Divine IdentityThe most powerful principle for coping with any hardship, from anxiety and depression to difficult circumstances, lies in understanding your true identity:•Divine Identity as a Son or Daughter of God: Elder Christofferson suggests that "spiritual rebirth" can make "depression... evaporate and any anxiety... quite manageable". Elder Boyd K. Packer adds that "principles of the gospel will improve behavior quicker than a study of behavior will improve". The foundation of this spiritual strength is the knowledge that you are a child of God.◦Moses 1:1-22 provides a powerful example: God repeatedly emphasizes to Moses, "thou art my son," highlighting his true identity before all else. Immediately afterward, Satan attacks Moses's identity, calling him "son of man," but Moses, grounded in his divine sonship, rebukes Satan "in the name of Christ". This teaches that knowing "who you are" is the most potent tool against challenges.◦Your worth is constant: Drawing from Sister Rooney's General Conference talk, the episode clarifies that "Your worth is not tied to your obedience. Your worth is constant. It never changes. It was given to you by God, and there's nothing you or anyone else can do to change it." While obedience brings blessings, your inherent worth is always great in God's sight.•The Atonement of Jesus Christ: Internalizing this divine identity is deeply connected to understanding Christ's Atonement.◦1 Nephi 21:16 states, "Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands," signifying that Christ thought of us and our potential even during His suffering. This powerful truth helps missionaries understand that the gospel's very first principle, "God is our loving Heavenly Father," is built upon love.◦D&C 6:33-37 reinforces this: Christ invites us to "Look unto me in every thought; doubt not, fear not. Behold the wounds which pierced my side, and also the print of the nails in my hands and feet." This scripture underscores Christ's personal suffering and boundless love for us, cementing our identity as etched into His very being.•Feasting on the Words of Christ: To build this deep understanding of your divine identity, it's essential to "feast on the words of Christ" through diligent scripture study, prayer, and allowing the Holy Ghost to teach you. This personal knowledge, combined with your agency, is key to navigating anxiety and depression.◦Elder Holland's BYU speech, "Lessons from Liberty Jail," is recommended for gaining "more ammo" to cope with struggles by understanding how to turn personal "Liberty Jails" into "temples" through the gospel.The episode culminates with a powerful invitation to read 3 Nephi 11, described as the "pinnacle of the Book of Mormon". In this chapter, the resurrected Christ invites the multitude to come forth "one by one" to feel the prints of the nails in His hands and feet. This deeply personal interaction emphasizes Christ's individual relationship with each of us, teaching that despite our unworthiness, through Him, we become worthy and can proudly embrace our identity as a "son of God" or "daughter of

Send us Fan MailMission Prep Class 5: Miracles and Angels Are Your Right!In this episode, we dive deep into the enduring truth that miracles absolutely 100% still happen today—just as powerful, just as big. Drawing on scriptures and personal experiences, we discuss how the condition for a miracle is faith.You'll learn why, as missionaries, you have a right to these miracles to perform the Lord's work of leading souls to Christ. We address common questions about why miracles might seem less frequent today, explaining that God is an unchangeable God of miracles as affirmed in Mormon 9:19-20.We explore God's purpose in miracles, which is twofold:•To show His power, demonstrating that if He can grant physical salvation, He can certainly save our souls from sin and death.•To demonstrate His involvement and love in the lives of His children, showing that He is aware of our situations and willing to act. Miracles are powerful tools to build faith in both investigators and missionaries themselves.Missionaries are encouraged to pray for miracles and seek them out with intention.We reveal three clear principles that are the conditions upon which missionaries can "call down the powers of heaven" to witness or be a part of miracles to lead souls to Christ:•Aligning your will with God's will: This means seeking His will through scripture study and understanding that His will is to lead souls to Christ. When you speak moved upon by the Holy Ghost, you are speaking God's will and word.•Having sufficient faith: This faith can be simple, trusting that God can do what you ask, even if your ideas seem humble or "dumb" like the Brother of Jared's glowing stones. Faith is also expressed through obedience.•Humility: Missionaries must be humble in their efforts.Throughout the episode, you'll hear incredible, faith-building stories:•Ancient miracles like Moses parting the Red Sea, the fiery flying serpents, and Samuel being saved from arrows.•A story of a promise blessing made to an investigator to help him find a job if he kept commitments, emphasizing the power of a missionary's word when aligned with God's will and faith.•Lauren's deeply personal account of fasting and praying with "all the energy of your heart" for a mother and daughter to return, culminating in their baptism in her final week.•Shawn's experience with Victor Ivanovich, a "cool-looking dude" who, through an unexpected encounter, was brought to the gospel and later baptized, despite initial setbacks.•Lauren's first mission transfer story of cancelled lessons leading to a miraculous divine appointment with a woman seeking help to overcome addiction.As 2 Nephi 26:3 states, God "manifesteth himself unto all those who believe in him by the power of the Holy Ghost...working mighty miracles...according to their faith". This episode powerfully testifies that if you go out with faith, humility, and alignment with God's will, you will see miracles!

Send us Fan MailLesson Number 4: The Word Of God Answers Every Question! In this insightful episode, we continue our mission preparation series with host Shawn and the "Hendricks triplets"—Lauren, Abby, and Braden Hendo—who share perspectives from their recent missions in England and Indiana1.The core principle discussed is the immense power of using the word of God to answer people's questions. The conversation challenges the idea that the gospel is "simple," explaining that while it is inherently simple, its understanding requires diligent effort and agency to develop an individual relationship with Heavenly Father. Through an analogy of physical training, the discussion highlights that spiritual growth, like building muscles, is a process that builds character and requires discipline and effort, rather than quick fixes.Key takeaways from the episode include:•The power of your voice is not nearly as strong as someone opening and reading the scriptures themselves, as scriptures are delivered by the Holy Ghost.•Receiving the "mysteries of God" and deeper understanding requires both desire and diligent seeking. This diligent seeking involves consistent prayer and "feasting upon the words of Christ".•Personal charisma or "selling" the gospel often lacks staying power because it doesn't spiritually convert; only the Holy Ghost does.•The episode shares powerful examples, including stories of "lukewarm Christians" who lacked desire and effort, and a remarkable account of a coal miner who overcame severe alcoholism by diligently reading the Book of Mormon daily, demonstrating the transformative power of God's word when applied consistently.•The discussion illustrates how specific scriptures, such as Moroni 8 for infant baptism and 3 Nephi 11 for the doctrine of Christ, can provide direct, powerful answers that resonate with individuals through the Holy Ghost.•Ultimately, the gospel is not complicated to those who desire and diligently seek; clarity and simplicity are received through spiritual means and the Holy Ghost delivers understanding to our minds and hearts.Join us as we explore why diligence and consistency are paramount in our spiritual journey, leading to profound growth and understanding of God's guidance in our lives.

Send us Fan MailThis episode introduces Principle Number Three: An Open Mouth Finds Listeners. We emphasize that this principle is both practical and spiritual, offering a path to an "amazing, life-changing experience" on your mission and coming home "firmly on the foundation of Jesus Christ".Discover the profound importance of opening your mouth and talking to everyone:•The Most Valuable Work: The podcast highlights that the "most valuable thing" you can do is to "declare repentance unto this people that ye may bring souls unto me". The most effective way to do this is to "open your mouth and talk to everyone".•Practical Benefits: You'll learn how to approach people, gain confidence, and quickly learn a foreign language through constant practice and repetition. As the host recalls Elder Holland's advice, missionaries are encouraged to "work so hard that you will be brought home on a stretcher," talking to "every soul that is in earshot".•Spiritual Power: When you, as a missionary, open your mouth, you are doing so "by the spirit". You are Christ's representative, and the Spirit will confirm the truth to His "sheep" who "hear my voice". This means that the Lord will bless your efforts and "give the increase," regardless of immediate results. Lauren emphasizes that "charity truly has to be the motivation" behind every missionary action, making it easier to talk to people.•Stories of Impact:◦Hear the inspiring anecdote of Steven Robinson as a bishop, illustrating that true belief in Christ's Atonement leads to faith in His power to save us fully.◦Shawn shares a "true miracle" from his mission where, after four hours of relentless effort, he found one couple who, 28 years later, were revealed to have become foundational members of the Church, bringing "dozens and dozens of people" to Christ.◦Lauren recounts a powerful experience in Carmel, Indiana, where a sincere prayer during a challenging day led directly to finding a family who was literally "looking for this church".◦Learn about Elder Bruce C. Porter's promise that missionaries would become fluent in Russian within six months if they consistently talked to everyone they saw.◦The episode also references President Gordon B. Hinckley's impactful counsel to "forget yourself and get to work," which dramatically changed his mission.This episode underscores that opening your mouth finds listeners, enabling miracles and leading to both personal conversion and "pure, absolute joy". As Lauren, for whom this principle "changed my mission", puts it: "You're called to serve, not stay quiet".

Send us Fan MailThis episode, "Revelation Leads to Conversion," explores the second crucial principle for an amazing and spiritual mission experience. Your sole purpose as a missionary is to help others come unto Christ.In this deep dive, you'll learn:•What is Conversion? It's more than just a testimony; it's a "mighty change of heart," a change in our very nature, becoming more like the Savior. It's about coming to Christ and living in a covenant with Him.•The Only Way to Come to Christ: Scripturally, the only way to conversion is through faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism, and receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. Faith is the essential first step; "faith without repentance is absolutely worthless".•The Power of Revelation: Revelation is receiving a confirmation of the truthfulness of the gospel from God. It's not just intellectual understanding, but a spiritual "knowing" that leads to action. It's the "substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"—more powerful than what you can see or hear.•Revelation Leads to Conversion: Revelation is the only way to begin growing the faith that ultimately leads to repentance, baptism, and the Holy Ghost.•How to Invite Revelation: Missionaries can help others receive revelation by inviting them to feast upon the words of Christ (especially the Book of Mormon), pray sincerely, and get to church. These actions invite the Spirit, which in turn grows faith.•Identifying the Holy Ghost: Learn how to help others recognize and identify the Holy Ghost's influence, whether it's a "peace," "joy," "still small voice," or simply when "everything just clicked" and "made sense".•Faith and Revelation are Intertwined: Your faith grows as you receive revelation, and you receive revelation according to your faith and action. You must actively cultivate faith; it doesn't grow passively.•Practical Missionary Advice: Study Preach My Gospel Chapter 11 on extending and helping people keep commitments. Even singing hymns can invite the Spirit.This episode challenges listeners, especially youth preparing for missions, to seek their own revelation through faithful action and deep study, emphasizing that this process is essential for personal conversion and effective missionary work.

Send us Fan MailWelcome to the Mission Stories Podcast! This episode dives into the number one lesson for having an impactful and joy-filled mission: making a conscious choice. Shawn and Lauren explore why some missionaries have life-changing, joyful experiences while others don't, often coming down to consecration and decisive commitment.Discover the profound difference between being 'hot or cold' versus 'lukewarm'—why indifference can be more detrimental than making the "wrong" choice, as discussed in Revelation 3:15-16 and 1 Kings 18:21. Learn how owning your mission builds a firm foundation on Jesus Christ, preventing you from being "tossed to and fro" by challenges, as described in Ephesians 4:14.Hear powerful stories, including the Shawn's own MTC realization about the importance of opening your mouth and making a firm choice, and why even difficult paths can lead to humility and repentance. This episode emphasizes that your mission's success, joy, and conversion depend on choosing to serve with your whole heart and continually seeking that "better and best reason" for being there. Ultimately, it's about choosing to be chosen for an extraordinary, growth-filled journey!