Next Step Leadership

In this opening conversation, Chris and Tracy sit down with pastor, theologian, and author Isaac Serrano to explore his personal story and calling. Isaac reflects on the early influence of a youth pastor who believed in him, entrusted him with responsibility, and helped him grow in faith even when he felt out of place within his surrounding culture. He shares how those formative experiences shaped his desire to create spaces where the next generation can ask honest academic questions, wrestle with real-life issues, and arrive at faithful, biblical conclusions. Together, they discuss leadership, identity, and why so many faithful people experience seasons of spiritual emptiness—even while doing meaningful work.https://www.isaacserrano.com/

In the final episode, Jon Oliver returns to talk candidly about the inner life of leaders. He joins Chris and Tracy to explore themes of soul care and self-care, especially for those navigating the demands of ministry and leadership.Jon shares wisdom on sustaining spiritual health, listening to God’s voice, and living with intention. He offers a hopeful vision of leadership as a sacred partnership—reminding listeners that each of us has the opportunity to co-author our lives with God, walking faithfully into what He is writing next.https://www.nciphc.com/discipleship-ministriesLinked In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-oliver-ba91634a/

In this episode, Chris and Tracy sit down with Jon Oliver for a wide-ranging conversation about calling, leadership, and faithfulness in ministry. Jon shares his personal story and testimony, including the influence of growing up with a father who was a bi-vocational pastor.They explore the importance of mentors, spiritual guidance, and healthy models of leadership for those serving in ministry today. Jon reflects on his years of ministry, leadership with youth gatherings and Accelerant Youth Convention, and what it means to invest intentionally in the next generation of leaders.https://www.nciphc.com/discipleship-ministriesLinked In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-oliver-ba91634a/

In their second episode, Jackie and Cheryl Johns continue the conversation by exploring how Scripture shapes leaders from the inside out. They discuss how leaders can approach Scripture with humility, expectation, and openness to the Spirit’s work.With pastoral warmth and scholarly insight, Jackie and Cheryl remind listeners that the Bible is not only to be studied—but received, as the Holy Spirit forms us through God’s living Word. Chris and Tracy talk with them about Re-enchanting the Text and the need to recover wonder, attentiveness, and spiritual depth in Bible study. Leaders are invited to enter a relationship of learning.Encountering the Living Word Book - https://www.amazon.com/Encountering-Living-Word-Relational-Inductive/dp/B0DZSSYHFCChery Johns - https://united.edu/cheryl-bridges-johns/Jackie Johns - https://www.cbeinternational.org/person/jackie-david-johns/

In this rich and thoughtful episode, Chris and Tracy welcome Jackie David Johns and Cheryl Bridges Johns for a conversation shaped by years of ministry, scholarship, and spiritual formation. They share their story of serving in both church and academic settings, and why the church needs deeply formed Pentecostal scholars.The conversation centers on their book Encountering the Living Word, exploring inductive Bible study not just as a method, but as a relational encounter with God. Jackie and Cheryl emphasize that Scripture is best studied as a time of communion—guided by the truth that the Holy Spirit is our teacher. Encountering the Living Word is an invitation for all leaders seeking to make the right steps in their spiritual journey.Encountering the Living Word Book - https://www.amazon.com/Encountering-Living-Word-Relational-Inductive/dp/B0DZSSYHFCChery Johns - https://united.edu/cheryl-bridges-johns/Jackie Johns - https://www.cbeinternational.org/person/jackie-david-johns/

Continuing their conversation on the new book Contentment: What You’re Searching for Is Already Yours, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell focus on the daily practice of contentment and its role in leadership, relationships, and spiritual growth. Chris offers practical insight into how individuals and groups can cultivate contentment through intentional rhythms, reflection, and community engagement. The episode explores how contentment reshapes leadership posture, reduces comparison, and encourages healthier, more grounded living. Listeners will also hear how Chris recommends using his book personally and in group settings for deeper formation and meaningful discussion. Do not miss this conversation and these invitations to find calm waters in a world of uncertainty. https://chrismaxwell.meFaceBook - https://www.facebook.com/PauseWithChrisMaxwellX (Twitter) - https://x.com/CMaxManLinked In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-maxwell-5b24b93/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cmaxman/TruePotential Publishers - https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/chris-maxwell/

In this episode of Next Step Leadership podcast, Tracy Reynolds guides a thoughtful conversation with Chris Maxwell as Chris steps into the guest seat to discuss his newest book, Contentment: What You’re Searching for Is Already Yours. Chris shares personal reflections on calling, restlessness, and the quiet search many leaders carry beneath their responsibilities. Together, they explore what contentment means in today’s fast-paced culture, why faithful leaders often feel unsettled, and how spiritual formation shapes a deeper sense of peace. This conversation invites listeners to move beyond striving and rediscover the presence of contentment already at work in their lives and leadership. Maxwell's 13th book provides a wonderful opportunity for a different type of rewiring the brain. Thinking with contentment adds peace in a world of people feeling overwhelmed and unfulfilled. https://chrismaxwell.meFaceBook - https://www.facebook.com/PauseWithChrisMaxwellX (Twitter) - https://x.com/CMaxManLinked In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-maxwell-5b24b93/Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cmaxman/TruePotential Publishers - https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/chris-maxwell/

In her second conversation, Trudy Simmons continues to speak with wisdom and compassion about the deep hurts she sees in today’s leaders and ministries. Chris and Tracy explore the pressures leaders face, the emotional weight many carry in silence, and the spiritual cost of ignoring pain.Trudy offers thoughtful insights from her work in counseling and coaching, pointing listeners toward true hope that is rooted in healing, truth, and God’s presence. This episode is a timely reminder that encouragement, care, and honest conversation are not luxuries for leaders—they are necessities. Her words bring true hope in a hurting world.https://trudysimmons.com/The Christian View - https://trudysimmons.com/the-christian-view/https://miltoncounseling.com/

In this episode of the Next Step Leadership Podcast, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds welcome Trudy Simmons for an honest and hope-filled conversation about leadership, healing, and faith. Trudy shares her powerful personal story—working through past speech challenges and learning disabilities to become a counselor, coach, and communicator serving leaders and ministries around the world.Together, they discuss the importance of safe places and safe people, the dangers of identity confusion and comparison, and what happens when trauma is left unaddressed. This episode offers deep encouragement for leaders who are learning to lead from wholeness rather than hidden wounds. Listen and receive hope, healing, and the courage to lead.https://trudysimmons.com/The Christian View - https://trudysimmons.com/the-christian-view/https://miltoncounseling.com/

Continuing the conversation, Jon and Erica Campbell return to share what life and ministry look like now in Los Angeles. Chris and Tracy ask about the realities of serving in a complex city, sustaining hope when progress feels slow, and caring for the soul while meeting constant needs.Jon and Erica speak honestly about lessons learned, spiritual rhythms that sustain them, and their hopes for the future. This episode offers wisdom and encouragement for leaders serving faithfully in demanding places—and a reminder that God is at work even when the journey feels hard.Jon & Erika Together - https://www.jonandericatogether.com/Support Jon & Erika - https://give.iphc.org/project/jon-and-erica-campbell-1Jon Instagram - @_jon_campbell Erika Instagram - @_erica_campbellChurch Plant - www.goodnessandlove.org

What happens when God calls you to leave what’s familiar and step into the unknown? In this inspiring episode, Chris and Tracy talk with Jon and Erica Campbell about their journey of faith, obedience, and courage that led them to Los Angeles.Jon and Erica share their story—the call, the cost, the transition, and the surprises along the way. Together, they reflect on what it means to say “yes” to God even when the path is unclear. This episode will challenge and encourage leaders who sense God inviting them into something new.Bill Robinson - Incarnate Leadership book - HERE Jon & Erika Together - https://www.jonandericatogether.com/Support Jon & Erika - https://give.iphc.org/project/jon-and-erica-campbell-1Jon Instagram - @_jon_campbell Erika Instagram - @_erica_campbellChurch Plant - www.goodnessandlove.org

Grief, loss, and change touch every life—and leaders are no exception. In this moving episode, April Yamasaki returns to discuss her book Hope Beyond Our Sorrows and what it means to live with sorrow while holding on to hope.Chris and Tracy explore April’s reflections on loss, her pastoral experience walking with those who grieve, and the kind of hope that grows slowly and honestly in the midst of pain. This conversation offers compassion, depth, and encouragement for anyone navigating sorrow—or supporting others through it.https://aprilyamasaki.com/

In a world that rarely slows down, this episode invites leaders to rediscover the spiritual power of pause. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds welcome pastor and author April Yamasaki for a reflective conversation about writing, stillness, and spiritual formation.April shares her journey as a writer, how the practice of pausing has shaped her life and ministry, and why intentional stillness is essential for spiritual growth. This episode offers gentle wisdom and practical guidance for leaders longing to listen more deeply, live more attentively, and lead from a place of quiet faithfulness.https://aprilyamasaki.com/

Money can be one of the most difficult topics for leaders to talk about—yet it’s deeply connected to faith and discipleship. In this episode, Travis Lowe returns to explore stewardship, finances, and meaning in ministry.Chris and Tracy talk with Travis about his new role in denominational financial leadership, the common struggles pastors face with money, and how stewardship can be practiced with grace rather than guilt. With honesty and wisdom, Travis offers practical insights for leaders seeking healthier financial habits and a deeper understanding of generosity rooted in faith.IPHC Extension Loan Fund - https://www.facebook.com/iphcelfHopeWords Writers Conference - https://www.hopewords.org/

What does faithful pastoring look like in a changing world? In this episode of the Next Step Leadership Podcast, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds sit down with pastor and writer Travis Lowe for a thoughtful conversation about ministry, leadership, and hope.Travis shares his personal journey into pastoral life, the lessons he’s learned through years of serving people, and how the landscape of ministry continues to shift. He also talks about the heart behind the HopeWords Writers Conference and why writing and storytelling matter for pastors and leaders today. This episode offers encouragement, perspective, and hope for anyone committed to leading well.IPHC Extension Loan Fund - https://www.facebook.com/iphcelfHopeWords Writers Conference - https://www.hopewords.org/

In this deeply moving follow-up episode, Kathleen Norris guides Tracy and Chris into the heart of her newest book, Rebecca Sue: A Sister’s Reflection on Disability, Faith, and Love. Hear the reflections from Kathleen’s latest work, which will be a great story for today’s pastors and leaders to learn from. Kathleen shares stories of her sister—her personality, her struggles, her joy—and the ways her sister’s life reshaped Kathleen’s spirituality and expanded her understanding of love, dignity, and what it means to bear God’s image. This episode offers pastors and leaders a compassionate and practical conversation about disability in the church, family grief, hope in suffering, and the spiritual insights that rise from honoring the lives of those society too often overlooks. It is tender, honest, and beautifully pastoral. Rebecca Sue's story from Kathleen Norris reminds listeners that faith, disability, love, and death are part of life and ministry. https://www.ivpress.com/Search?q=Kathleen+norrishttps://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-Sue-Sisters-Reflections-Disability/dp/1514011409

In this opening conversation with acclaimed writer Kathleen Norris, Chris and Tracy welcome one of Chris Maxwell’s all-time favorite authors into the Next Step Leadership studio. Kathleen shares the story behind her vocation—her upbringing, her journey of faith, and the experiences that shaped her distinctive voice as a poet, memoirist, and spiritual writer. The conversation explores the contemplative rhythms that have guided her life, the monastic influences woven through her work, and the deep connections she sees between faith and the ordinary moments of daily existence. Listeners are invited into a reflective, gentle, and profoundly human conversation with one of the most beloved Christian writers of our time. Welcome to the life and words of Kathleen Norris: a journey of faith, writing, and spiritual reflection.https://www.ivpress.com/Search?q=Kathleen+norrishttps://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-Sue-Sisters-Reflections-Disability/dp/1514011409

Episode 2 — Todd Korpi / AI Goes to Church: Wisdom for a Digital Age In this insightful and highly practical episode, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell dive with Todd Korpi into the central ideas of his book, AI Goes to Church: Pastoral Wisdom for Artificial Intelligence. Todd unpacks the opportunities, challenges, and ethical considerations facing today’s church leaders as AI becomes part of everyday life and ministry. He offers grounded, pastoral guidance for how pastors can use AI responsibly, protect their communities, and remain deeply rooted in Christ while leading in an increasingly digital age. This episode is hopeful, actionable, and essential listening for leaders preparing for the future. The practical and pastoral applications for today’s leaders need to be heard. https://www.toddkorpi.com/

Episode 1 — Todd Korpi / AI Goes to Church: Wisdom for a Digital Age Learn in this episode about a leader’s journey and why the church must talk about artificial intelligence. Chris and Tracy begin their two-part series with Todd Korpi by exploring his story—his spiritual journey, his ministry path, and the moments that drew him into the world of technology, culture, and pastoral leadership. Todd shares why he believes the Church cannot afford to ignore the influence of artificial intelligence and how pastors can thoughtfully engage emerging technologies without fear. This episode helps set the stage for a broader, needed conversation about the intersection of faith, wisdom, and the digital world shaping the next generation.https://www.toddkorpi.com/

Episode 2 — Wisdom for the Next Generation with David RichardsonIn this second conversation with David Richardson, Tracy and Chris turn toward the lessons learned over a lifetime of faithful ministry. David speaks candidly about endurance, emotional health, humility, and the evolving landscape of pastoral leadership. He offers guidance for young pastors, encouragement for weary leaders, and insights into what truly matters over the long haul. The episode is filled with practical wisdom—simple, soulful reminders that leadership is not performance but discipleship, relationship, and steady obedience to Jesus. This is a hopeful, heart-shaping conversation for leaders at every stage. It offers guidance for lessons we should learn, who we can serve in leadership, and faith for what’s next.https://www.rphc.net/https://www.hopewords.org/conferenceIPHC Extension Loan Fund - https://www.elfiphc.org/

Episode 1 — The Story Behind the Leader with David RichardsonIn the first of two episodes with Pastor David Richardson, Chris and Tracy guide listeners through an intimate and heartfelt conversation about David’s life story. David reflects on the people, places, and experiences that shaped his calling; the joys and heartbreaks of ministry; and how God has used seasons of struggle to form depth, compassion, and resilience in his leadership. This episode is warm, personal, and rich with authenticity—an invitation for leaders to remember where they’ve come from, how far God has carried them, and how their stories continue to shape their influence today. Hear Pastor David's story about faith, formation, and the personal journey of leadership.https://www.rphc.net/https://www.hopewords.org/conferenceIPHC Extension Loan Fund - https://www.elfiphc.org/

The dialogue continues in Part 2 as Chris and Tracy go deeper with Mary DeMuth into the heart of her work. Together they explore specific themes from her books, each one offering wisdom for today’s leaders—regardless of age, background, or personal story. Mary not only shares lessons from her life and writing, but also highlights the central role of prayer in everything she does. As a writer, literary agent, and gifted storyteller, she invites listeners to engage with her words, join her in prayer, and discover practical insight for living and leading with faith. This episode is a rich reminder that leadership flows out of both story and Spirit.https://www.marydemuth.com/https://www.marydemuth.com/bookstore/

In this inspiring first conversation, hosts Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds welcome Mary DeMuth—author, literary agent, podcaster, and storyteller. Chris shares how he first heard Mary speak at a conference, began reading her books, and eventually started communicating with her. Those conversations, along with the impact of her writing, led him to invite Mary to Next Step Leadership. In this episode, Mary tells her story—what shaped her life, how she began writing, and the ways God has guided her leadership through both spoken and written words. Her journey offers today’s leaders practical encouragement: to take their own next steps faithfully and courageously, and to consider how words can shape the lives of those they serve.https://www.marydemuth.com/https://www.marydemuth.com/bookstore/

The conversation with Stephen Jones continues as he and the hosts turn their attention more fully to ministry itself. Stephen reflects on his years of leading and mentoring young people, offering practical wisdom for anyone serving the next generation. His insights go beyond strategies, reminding leaders of the importance of caring for themselves spiritually and emotionally while they pour into others. With a balance of passion and humility, Stephen provides a clear picture of what effective leadership can look like in today’s church, and how servant leaders can remain healthy as they guide young people toward Christ.https://www.ccrdc.org/meet-the-teamhttps://iphc.org/discipleship/our-team/

In this heartfelt episode, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell sit down with their longtime friend Stephen Jones, a leader who has dedicated his life to showing God’s love to the younger generation. Stephen shares his personal testimony, weaving in stories about his family and the faithfulness of God through their journey. The conversation highlights how his calling has unfolded over the years, leading him into ministry with youth at the local church level, in denominational conference settings, and on the leadership team for IPHC youth. This episode offers both encouragement and perspective on how God shapes leaders through story, family, and faithful service.https://www.ccrdc.org/meet-the-teamhttps://iphc.org/discipleship/our-team/

In the second part of the conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell dive deeper with Dr. John Plake into the urgent cultural questions raised at the end of Part 1. As editor-in-chief of the annual State of the Bible research, John brings clarity to what people really believe in today’s society and how those beliefs are shaping the church. More than statistics, his reflections highlight the importance of leaders listening closely to the people they serve. He challenges pastors and Christian leaders to interpret the cultural landscape with wisdom, compassion, and biblical truth—so they can guide others toward spiritual formation in Christ. This episode offers both practical insight and hope for navigating ministry in a complex world.https://www.americanbible.org/the-mission/leadership/https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjohnplake/https://x.com/johnfplakehttps://www.amazon.com/Missionary-Expatriate-Effectiveness-Competencies-Missionaries/dp/9004313818/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20J9341IW9URP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f_KlDuBrPkFNli_9v3VeQg.Y9EkCgabou2X_lvJXm64CM1eljM3LExYbic6yOX-JgA&dib_tag=se&keywords=john+plake&qid=1759573391&s=books&sprefix=john+plake%2Cstripbooks%2C96&sr=1-1

In this first conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell welcome Dr. John Farquhar Plake, Chief Innovation Officer at the American Bible Society. John begins by sharing his personal journey—more than three decades of ministry as a pastor, missionary, professor, and researcher—and how those experiences shaped his calling to connect research with ministry. Listeners hear about his heart for innovation, discipleship, and equipping leaders to understand how people grow in Christ. The episode closes with a crucial turn: John unpacks current cultural realities and what people today actually believe about life, faith, and Scripture. His insights as editor-in-chief of the annual State of the Bible research offers a wake-up call for leaders seeking to shepherd well in a rapidly changing world.https://www.americanbible.org/the-mission/leadership/https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjohnplake/https://x.com/johnfplakehttps://www.amazon.com/Missionary-Expatriate-Effectiveness-Competencies-Missionaries/dp/9004313818/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20J9341IW9URP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f_KlDuBrPkFNli_9v3VeQg.Y9EkCgabou2X_lvJXm64CM1eljM3LExYbic6yOX-JgA&dib_tag=se&keywords=john+plake&qid=1759573391&s=books&sprefix=john+plake%2Cstripbooks%2C96&sr=1-1

In the second part of their conversation with Monte Drenner, Tracy and Chris continue exploring the practical ways faith brings strength and resilience. Monte offers wisdom for leaders, pastors, and anyone walking through hard times. His words are gentle but direct—acknowledging the struggles of life while pointing toward God’s peace. This episode is more than an interview; it’s an invitation to pause, to breathe, and to believe that healing is possible.https://www.mtccounseling.com/about-usSacred Space book - https://www.mtccounseling.com/thescaredspace

Counselor, life coach, and author Monte Drenner joins Tracy and Chris for a meaningful discussion about hope and healing. In this first episode, Monte shares his story and his calling to walk alongside people in their struggles. He talks about the realities pastors and leaders face today—the long journeys, the deep pain, the hidden disappointments—and how faith offers peace in the midst of it all. Listening to Monte reminds us that even when the weight feels heavy, God’s hope and presence are greater.https://www.mtccounseling.com/about-usSacred Space book - https://www.mtccounseling.com/thescaredspace

Most weeks, Next Step Leadership features a guest. But this time, it’s just Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell talking together. Their conversation is refreshingly honest—about vocational ministry, about writing books, and about the ongoing purpose behind serving God and people. They share lessons learned and lessons still being learned. Listening to them feels like sitting with two friends who care enough to speak the truth in love. If you’ve ever needed encouragement to keep serving faithfully, this episode will remind you that you’re not alone.https://chrismaxwell.me/Second Chair Leadership - Tracy Reynolds' book

The conversation with Ben Crisp continues as he talks more openly about the challenges he and his wife have faced—especially walking through a season of deep disappointment. Tracy and Chris draw out his honest reflections on trusting God when life doesn’t go as planned, and on learning how faith holds us steady through the unknown. Ben’s story is not just about ministry; it’s about living with resilience, grace, and hope. As you listen, you’ll be encouraged to see God’s hand in your own story, even in the chapters that feel unfinished.https://reflection.church/leadershipSermons - https://reflection.church/sermons

Ben Crisp’s story is a reminder of God’s presence through every season of life. From experiencing God’s touch as a young boy, to his years as a student at Emmanuel University, to graduate school, marriage, parenting, and now pastoring a church in Oklahoma—Ben has seen God’s faithfulness at every step. In this first part of the conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell listen as Ben shares how God has shaped his calling and sustained him through both joys and disappointments. His words invite us to reflect on our own journeys and remember: God is with us, too.https://reflection.church/leadershipSermons - https://reflection.church/sermons

In the second half of their interview with G. Richard Hoard, Tracy and Chris draw out even more depth and wisdom. Richard’s storytelling gifts shine as he talks about faith, creativity, and the power of words to shape lives. This episode feels both reflective and motivating, reminding us how powerful a well-lived story can be. As you listen, ask yourself: What can I take from Richard’s journey? How might his principles apply to my own? And what new steps of faith is God calling me to take today?https://grichardhoard.com/

Author and storyteller G. Richard Hoard joins Tracy and Chris for a fascinating conversation. In this first half of their dialogue, Richard shares glimpses of his background, his passion for writing, and his perspective on life. It feels like sitting across the table from a seasoned friend—listening, learning, and laughing together. This is the kind of conversation that Next Step Leadership loves to share: stories that encourage, challenge, and inspire. So, listen. Pass it along. And remember—your story matters too.https://grichardhoard.com/

The conversation with Brandon McDaniel continues as Tracy and Chris move deeper into his reflections—lessons learned, people who influenced him, his obedience to God’s call into ministry, the adjustments he’s had to make, and the rhythms he’s discovered for leading well. Brandon’s words are honest, practical, and encouraging. If Part 1 stirred your curiosity, Part 2 will speak even more clearly to where you live today. We need more young leaders like Brandon—caring for people, walking by true faith in God, and taking time to live with integrity.https://www.mytc.org/our-team

Brandon McDaniel brings a story worth hearing. From his younger years, through his time at Emmanuel University, to life with his wife and children, to serving on a church staff, and now leading as a pastor—everyone can learn from his journey. In this conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell begin unpacking the experiences that have shaped Brandon—his faith, his calling, and his desire to invest in others. You’ll hear not just information, but inspiration. This first part of the interview will make you lean in closer and reflect on your own story. How does Brandon’s story connect with yours? What lessons can you carry forward?https://www.mytc.org/our-team

In this second conversation, Chris and Tracy talk with Brianna Edwards—a licensed child therapist, mom, and author of the children’s book The Little Roo Who Stuffed Her Stuff. Designed as a tool for parents, counselors, and educators, the book encourages self-awareness and healthy conversations on difficult topics, with resources to help adults guide children well. Brianna shares lessons from her years as a caregiver, her work as a therapist, and her role as a mom. Together, they explore how to lead with compassion through seasons of sadness, grief, disability, and loss, and how ministries like Nathaniel’s Hope offer vital support. Her insights challenge us to see, serve, and walk alongside families living with special needs.https://nathanielshope.org/https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0DHWF4CFF?ingress=0&visitId=3d7ac8d2-5089-4f0b-a941-5af71c4fa978&ccs_id=43465036-05d2-4280-8b6f-2f05b806884a

When Brianna Edwards was almost 5 years old, life changed drastically. Her family welcomed the birth of her brother Nathaniel, but he was born with special needs—and her mother nearly died giving birth. From ages 5 to 9½, Brianna’s “normal” became hospital visits, medical procedures, and nonstop caregiving. For many families, this is everyday life, though it’s often forgotten by others. In this conversation, Brianna reflects on how those years shaped her, how she learned to lead and care well, and how her family now serves the special-needs community through Nathaniel’s Hope. Her story invites us to consider: What is your role in caring for families who are exhausted, uncertain, and desperate for help as they share God’s love in difficult seasons?https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0DHWF4CFF?ingress=0&visitId=3d7ac8d2-5089-4f0b-a941-5af71c4fa978&ccs_id=43465036-05d2-4280-8b6f-2f05b806884ahttps://nathanielshope.org/

In this second conversation with Terry Ross, you’ll hear even more of his heart—not just his past, but his hurts and hopes. He speaks with honesty about weakness and wounds, his mission endeavors, and his decades in ministry. His story reminds us how God works uniquely in each of our lives. Tracy and Chris invite you to listen closely, learn from Terry’s experiences, and take away truths you can apply to your own journey.https://www.facebook.com/terry.ross.712

Tracy and Chris invite you to sit back and hear the remarkable story of Terry Ross. His journey weaves through years of business ventures, risky decisions, music, mission work, ministry, family, and miracles—each with lessons for all of us. Terry was climbing the ladder of business success while his deeper life was falling apart. But then, God intervened. Terry and Tracy share a long history in music, ministry, and friendship. They’ve learned how true, enduring relationships help us navigate life’s highs and lows. As you listen, think about your own journey: How has God met you? How has He directed your steps? And in this season, how might He be working in and through your life?https://www.facebook.com/terry.ross.712

In Part 2 of their conversation with Peter Rosenberger, Chris and Tracy continue to be inspired—and believe you will be, too. Peter’s deep love and care for his wife Gracie serve as a powerful reminder of Christ’s love for us all, and of how each of us can grow in caring for those in need.Peter does whatever he can—whatever she needs—with steady, selfless commitment. The life of a caregiver carries a unique mix of sorrow, strength, humor, and hope. How can we respond when life brings long-term burdens? What does healthy mourning look like when the pain doesn’t go away? How can we faithfully show up for others when the needs keep coming?Peter’s story teaches us how to love well, endure with grace, and serve like Jesus. Listen, learn, and be encouraged to love like Peter—and even more, like our Savior. We should be elbows deep in the sufferings of this world. That is how we must love. https://peterrosenberger.com/

Few conversations on Next Step Leadership have been as honest, funny, serious, and inspiring as this week’s episode. Chris and Tracy cherished both of their conversations with Peter Rosenberger—and they believe you will too. Peter has a remarkable ability to be both hilarious and convicting in the same moment. As the longtime caregiver for his wife Gracie—who has endured nearly one hundred surgeries—Peter knows the deep realities of pain, perseverance, and love. He’s also an author, musician, songwriter, and host of the podcast Hope for Caregivers. He understands medical bills, disappointments, and ongoing stress—but he lives to serve those who serve others. His compassion shines through in every word he speaks and writes.What can we learn from Peter’s decades of walking through suffering with Gracie? How do we care well when everything seems to be going wrong? What wounds in the lives of those we love remain unhealed? In this powerful conversation, Peter reminds us that God continues to teach us—right in the middle of whatever we’re experiencing.https://peterrosenberger.com/

In the second episode of their conversation with Hal Donaldson, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds believe the message is just what so many in today's world need to hear. Hal knows about wounds and scars. He knows about death and poverty. He knows about health issues and overworking. He knows about busyness as a drug of choice in this modern culture. But Hal also knows God. He knows God's love deeply and he hopes to share that love to needy people. Through his personal life and now through Convoy of Hope, the world is being changed. Hal's personal story influenced his approach to leadership and humanitarian work, motivating him to dive right into the biggest challenges facing global poverty. Convoy addresses hunger not with ideas, but with action. Hear Hal's heart and you'll understand why. Read his book What Really Matters: How to Care for Yourself and Serve a Hurting World, and his many other books, and let his desire to serve a hurting world become your desire. Reach your community. Be Jesus for those nearby and far away. The world is waiting for Hal, for Convoy of Hope, and for someone like you. Don't leave the needy people alone. https://convoyofhope.org/https://haldonaldson.org/

Hal Donaldson is the president and CEO of Convoy of Hope, a global, faith-based, nonprofit organization that works with communities to address root causes of poverty and hunger. According to Forbes, Convoy of Hope is among the 50 largest charities in the United States. Through its disaster responses and community development programs, Convoy has distributed more than $3 billion worth of food and supplies, helped more than 300 million people, and currently feeds more than 639,000 children every school day. Hal has received numerous public service awards. He has a Bachelor of Arts in journalism from San Jose State University and a Bachelor of Arts in biblical studies from Bethany University. Hal and his wife, Doree, have four daughters. Chris has known Hal for many years and is so honored he and Tracy could talk with Hal in Next Step Leadership. Hal is also the author of many books, including his latest, What Really Matters: How to Care for Yourself and Serve a Hurting World. As you hear Hal's testimony, you will understand better the importance of his book. Through his own wounds, Hal has chosen to realize what really matters and how to bring that truth to people in need all over the world. https://convoyofhope.org/https://haldonaldson.org/

In this second conversation, Pastor Greg Dixon picks up where last week's episode ended. Chris and Tracy want you to hear these types of stories. We might pretend to be strong while deep inside wounds are impacting us. We might present powerful messages and vision and teaching sessions and songs, while our inner worlds carry the pain from past encounters. True leaders seek to be in the job that is best for them and for the people they serve. It should not be about titles. It should not be about the ladder of success. What are you passionate about? What has God placed inside your heart for the work of the kingdom? Promotion in God's kingdom looks so different that how our culture views it. Are you sitting in the chair that is best for you? Are you secure enough in Christ to sit in that chair? Greg also gives practical advice for the life of serving in ministry: Family, friends, time management, preparation, priorities, and boundaries. Look at your life and ministry to see what healthy boundaries you need to set.https://ucf.cc/staff

Tracy and Chris invite you to join their time with Pastor Greg Dixon. Like each episode in Next Step Leadership, this week's words are valuable for all who listen. Greg serves as executive pastor at Upward Christian Fellowship in Flat Rock, NC.  Years ago, Greg's lead Pastor died unexpectedly. Greg began to serve as lead pastor during a very difficult season of life and ministry.  In this conversation, Greg tells his testimony. God worked on Greg through his reluctance and his struggles, but God guided him to Emmanuel University. He talks about his pastor's death and about how the congregation was affected. Greg tried to care for the people while he was also grieving. Greg encourages listeners to know what area is best for them to serve. Moving up to a higher role in leadership isn't always where God leads us. Stepping into a job considered lower in our culture might be the high place God takes us. Is there an area you need to see a counselor? Is hard work taking the place of healing? Listen to his story of grief and growth, change and service, hope and healing. https://ucf.cc/staff

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds are glad you decided to join them in this week's episode of Next Step Leadership. As you listen to Pastor Brandon Goff's words, think about where you are in your personal journey and in your ministry. What lessons can you learn from Brandon's guidance? What beliefs do you often neglect? What statements of faith should be more a part of your everyday life? Through teaching, pastoring, and writing, Brandon offers key points so often forgotten in our hurried culture. His voice is needed during these days of questions and confusion. Receive his clarity. Reflect on his conclusions. Realize it isn't enough to memorize a few beliefs and then move on to a new trend or experience. God wants to continue teaching to you and through you, as He has done in Brandon's life and ministry. Believe God is bringing healing to your hurts and is transforming many lives through you. Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pastorbgoff/Radiate Church - https://www.radiatechurch.net/Radiate Church Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radiate-church-podcast/id1390951785

This week and next week you will hear the conversation Tracy and Chris enjoyed with Pastor Brandon Goff. Brandon is the lead pastor at Radiate Church in Columbia, SC. Their church emphasizes the importance of loving God, loving others, and loving life. They believe life doesn't end when a church service concludes. They seek to build relationships which show God's love throughout the week and throughout every season. Through joy and sorrow. Through celebration and transformation. Through questions asked and lessons learned. Brandon displays those elements in not only his ministry, but in his life. His story reminds those who listen that struggles are parts of this adventure. Listen and learn from how Brandon has endured the experiences and also grown through them. Think about how his story applies to you. And ask yourself, "What next steps can I take to learn what God is teaching me? How can I live with God's love flowing through me to others?"Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pastorbgoff/Radiate Church - https://www.radiatechurch.net/Radiate Church Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radiate-church-podcast/id1390951785

Revived and Kickin' (Survival to Revival: A Forty Day Journey Through the Wilderness), an amazing book by Joel de Jesus, is ideal literature for today's leaders. Hear his story in this week's Next Step Leadership podcast with Tracy and Chris. Pick up his book and read about what his wilderness experiences were--and are—like. Have you ever felt God was silent? Have you ever obeyed God, and the outcomes of your decisions did not go as you expected?  Have you faced major health issues and wondered when God would bring healing? Have you risked all to follow Jesus? In this world we do have tribulations and troubles. In leadership roles we also serve to help others as they endure their won tribulations and troubles. Learn from Joel's story of pain, questions, and hope. Let his forty images help you walk through the next forty days of your life. Take time for reflection (Why me and why this?), reaffirmation (What do you know for sure?), repentance (What's love got to do with it?), and revival (Have you found what you're looking for?).  https://www.amazon.com/Revived-Kickin-Survival-Revival-Wilderness/dp/1960024361

Author and business leader Joel de Jesus tells a story you don't want to miss. Listen to his testimony of difficulties, potential success, obedience to God, conflict, rejection, disaster, and hope. Yes, God places hope in the middle of life's storms. Leaders—and everyone in any role—often assume healing comes when all the external circumstances are resolved, when conflict concludes, when healing comes, when all the needs are met. But that is not biblical. And that is not how things happen. Joel de Jesus tells Chris Maxwell, Tracy Reynolds, and all those listening that becoming "revived" might occur during the journey through a wilderness. His book Revived and Kickin' (Survival to Revival: A Forty Day Journey Through the Wilderness) is the perfect material during today's seasons of uncertainty and disappointment and pain. Welcome his courage and endurance. Receive his hope. Your story isn't over yet. You are being revived during the journey.https://www.amazon.com/Revived-Kickin-Survival-Revival-Wilderness/dp/1960024361