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Dr Chris Coppernoll, Director of Spiritual Life at Silver Bay YMCA, has a heart for pastoral ministry and spiritual care. He invites pastors and ministry workers to the Pastoral Respite Program at Silver Bay YMCA in upstate New York.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:How Congregations and Leaders Can Support Their PastorsEarly Signs that a Respite Would Be BeneficialEligibility and Application for the Pastoral Respite ProgramABOUT THE GUEST: Dr Chris Coppernoll is the Director of Spiritual Life at Silver Bay YMCA, bringing 15 years of experience in higher education and pastoral ministry to this role. His expertise lies in spiritual formation and pastoral care, honed through work with students at Princeton University, Asbury Theological Seminary, and as a pastor in upstate New York.His emphasis is pastoral and clergy care. This is expressed through the Pastoral Respite Program at Silver Bay YMCA in the Adirondacks of upstate New York where Spiritual Life Center staff welcome more than 1,000 pastors and their families each year.RELATED LINKS:Silver Bay YMCA Respite ProgramTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Dr Chris Coppernoll01:38 - How Congregations and Leaders Can Support Their Pastors02:22 - ...things to keep in mind02:29 - ...one-two weeks for respite breaks per year (not vacation)04:24 - ...encourage your pastor to set boundaries around their time05:26 - ...encourage congregations to volunteer to serve in ministry07:33 - Early Signs that a Respite Would Be Beneficial07:47 - ...emotional indicators09:11 - ...behavioral indicators11:57 - ...differences in relationships and interactions15:41 - ECFA and caring for pastors18:00 - Idea and Vision for Pastoral Respite Program at Silver Bay YMCA21:17 - Eligibility and Application for the Pastoral Respite Program23:03 - Value of a Respite Stay25:33 - Favorite Ways to Enjoy Silver Bay28:52 - Silver Bay Loves to Welcome Respite Guests29:53 - ...silverbay.org30:08 - Books on Amazon, ChristianBookDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr Chris Coppernoll, Director of Spiritual Life at Silver Bay YMCA, has a heart for pastoral ministry and spiritual care. He invites pastors and ministry workers to the Pastoral Respite Program at Silver Bay YMCA in upstate New York.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Pastoral Ministry & Spiritual CareImportance of Pastoral and Self CareUnique Stresses that Pastors EncounterABOUT THE GUEST: Dr Chris Coppernoll is the Director of Spiritual Life at Silver Bay YMCA, bringing 15 years of experience in higher education and pastoral ministry to this role. His expertise lies in spiritual formation and pastoral care, honed through work with students at Princeton University, Asbury Theological Seminary, and as a pastor in upstate New York.His emphasis is pastoral and clergy care. This is expressed through the Pastoral Respite Program at Silver Bay YMCA in the Adirondacks of upstate New York where Spiritual Life Center staff welcome more than 1,000 pastors and their families each year.RELATED LINKS:Silver Bay YMCA Respite ProgramTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:37 - Introducing Dr Chris Coppernoll03:49 - Starting in Pastoral Ministry & Spiritual Care and Current Role04:07 - ...radio host04:45 - ...care volunteer at a megachurch05:43 - ...hosted weekly Bible study06:24 - ...church plant06:51 - ...training pastors in seminaries07:33 - ...family tragedies08:13 - ...Silver Bay YMCA09:12 - ...God's hand11:47 - Importance of Pastoral and Self Care12:11 - ...research on ministry burnout12:50 - ...demands on ministers have changed and increased13:04 - ...Covid pandemic accelerated challenges13:43 - ...corollaries14:12 - ...cultural division and polarization spilling into churches16:51 - ...ministers feel their ministry lives are less sustainable17:49 - Unique Stresses that Pastors Encounter19:20 - ...unique profession19:29 - ...increased loneliness and isolation20:03 - ...significant workload - 55-75 hours per week21:18 - ...a sense of failure21:45 - ...residual stress23:14 - ...recommendation for regular respite break24:42 - ...flight or flight mode - survival focusDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

In What Gen Z Really Wants to Know About God, veteran youth worker and Gen Z expert Tanita Tualla Maddox presents a thoughtful and powerful guide for ministry practitioners striving to connect with this generation.Dr Maddox' WebsiteDr Maddox' BioBook: What Gen Z Really Wants to Know About GodWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Gen Z Cares and ConcernsMajor Questions Gen Z-ers Ask About GodTraditional Ministry Methods Not Working So Well with Gen ZABOUT THE GUEST: Dr Tanita Maddox is the national director for generational impact for Young Life and serves as an associate regional director in the Mountain West Young Life region. With an expertise in contextualizing the gospel for Gen Z, Tanita has been featured on The Holy Post podcast and has been published in The Great Commission Research Journal, the Journal of Youth and Theology, and more. She has served as Young Life leader with adolescents for over twenty-six years and serves as a volunteer Young Life leader in her local community.RELATED LINKS:Dr Maddox' WebsiteDr Maddox' BioBook: What Gen Z Really Wants to Know About GodTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Dr Tanita Maddox03:00 - Major Characteristics of Gen Z Different from Generations Before03:24 - ...technological change created another culture04:00 - Gen Z Cares and Concerns04:11 - ...authenticity, justice, creation, stewardship of the earth05:10 - ...high value for trust05:37 - ...care about mental health06:49 - Two Major Questions that Gen Z Ask About God07:32 - ...Am I Safe with God?10:28 - ......Where is the idea of safety coming from?11:06 - ......Gen X is primarily raising Gen Z12:28 - ......Protectiveness may have taken away confidence15:20 - ......Teach how to be safe16:29 - ......We raise children to prepare them to be in the world18:24 - Traditional Ministry Methods Not Working So Well with Gen Z18:31 - ...generations are also cultures19:04 - ...answering questions that Gen Z were not asking and ignoring what they were asking20:03 - ...the response to gentle correction is being contrary22:19 - ...what can we do or change when it comes to God?22:56 - ......uncover miscommunication places23:42 - ......allow Gen Z ask questions and have doubts24:11 - ......Gen Z do not see authority as hierarchy as valuable; it is flattened25:14 - ......Gen Z-er want to see how God impacts every area of your life26:15 - ......it's discipleship - open your life 28:46 - ......show how we rely on Jesus in all circumstances29:55 - Example: How Generations See the Parable of the Prodigal Son30:08 - ...why did the Prodigal Son starve?31:12 - ...we focus on one point and missing other points that may hit hearts better32:01 - ...what is most relevant to the listener?32:08 - Leading Gen Z to God32:47 - ...people view through a lens that make sense to them33:11 - ...pray for the young people33:20 - ...move slower34:10 - ...humility - "Help me understand."35:12 - ...the previous generation never experienced the things that Gen Z have gone through35:56 - ...sovereignty of God36:13 - Action Steps Pastors, Ministry Leaders, and Parents Can Take36:38 - ...ask: on a scale of 1-10, how is your mental health today?38:45 - ...language differences39:37 - Non-face-to-face Conversations41:45 - Getting in Touch: tanitamaddox.com , Dr Tanita MaddoxDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Check out previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

What does following Jesus looking like when you want to do great things for God but feel like you're falling short?In The Quiet Ambition, pastor and theologian Ryan P. Tinetti unpacks the rich spiritual wisdom of 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12, showing how it can help you reimagine what following Jesus looks like: Live Quietly, Tend Your Own Business, Work with Your Hands, and Walk Gracefully.Dr Ryan Tinetti's WebsiteBook: The Quiet AmbitionDr Ryan Tinetti's IVP BioDr Ryan Tinetti's at Concordia SeminaryWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Four Sections Based on 1 Thessalonians 4 : 11-12Encouragement for the Discouraged or Burnt OutThink LittleABOUT THE GUEST: Ryan P. Tinetti is a pastor who now serves as an assistant professor of practical theology at Concordia Seminary in St Louis. He is the author of the books “The Quiet Ambition: Scripture's Surprising Antidote to Our Restless Lives” and “Preaching by Heart.” Prior to his call to Concordia Seminary, Ryan served for 14 years in parish ministry. Ryan lives with his wife, Anne, and their four children in St. Louis on the campus of the seminary.SCRIPTURE RELATED TO EPISODE:1 Thessalonians 4 : 11-12Ephesians 2 : 10RELATED LINKS:Dr Ryan Tinetti's WebsiteBook: The Quiet AmbitionDr Ryan Tinetti's IVP BioDr Ryan Tinetti's at Concordia SeminaryTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:43 - Introducing Dr Ryan Tinetti01:13 - Four Sections Based on 1 Thessalonians 4 : 11-1202:16 - ...Live Quietly02:48 - ......gift of grace; posture of trusting faith in God's action for us03:47 - ......we are surrounded by noise04:24 - ......carve out space to rest in the Lord06:14 - ......managing ministering to people vs full schedules08:01 - ...Tend Your Own Business08:29 - ......tend and attend to what God has given YOU to do; don't do God's work for Him09:18 - ......it's not all up to you10:19 - ......work from rest - "my calendar won't allow it"18:12 - Work with Your Hands18:21 - ...manual labor is not menial labor19:18 - ......God can and will work through you for the benefit of others20:26 - ......call to creativity21:40 - ......Ephesians 2 : 10 - we are God's handiwork24:01 - ......actively productive, not just passively consumptive26:03 - Walk Gracefully26:12 - ......so that-- you might walk gracefully toward outsiders -- witness27:26 - ......look for the outsiders29:26 - ...people are often a pain because they are in pain30:20 - Encouragement for the Discouraged or Burnt Out30:47 - ......not to be served, but to serve31:18 - ......posture of receptivity32:08 - ......serve with the strength that God provides32:42 - Think Little33:23 - Getting in Touch - ryantinetti.substack.comDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Do you desire to do great things for God but feel like you're falling short?Does your life feel small, filled with endless demands, seemingly insignificant work, mundane responsibilities, or challenging relationships? If your desire to make an impact for God's kingdom collides with the limits and disappointments of everyday life, it's easy to feel restless, resigned, and discouraged.Scripture offers a better way. In one of Paul's letters, there's an unexpected, paradoxical call: "Make it your ambition to live quietly . . ."In The Quiet Ambition, pastor and theologian Ryan P. Tinetti unpacks the rich spiritual wisdom of 1 Thessalonians 4:11-12, showing how it can help you reimagine what following Jesus looks like.Dr Ryan Tinetti's WebsiteBook: The Quiet AmbitionDr Ryan Tinetti's IVP BioDr Ryan Tinetti's at Concordia SeminaryWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Quiet Desperation vs Quiet AmbitionThe World's Perspective vs God's PerspectiveCan Quiet Ambition Be Impactful?ABOUT THE GUEST: Ryan P. Tinetti is a pastor who now serves as an assistant professor of practical theology at Concordia Seminary in St Louis. He is the author of the books “The Quiet Ambition: Scripture's Surprising Antidote to Our Restless Lives” and “Preaching by Heart.” Prior to his call to Concordia Seminary, Ryan served for 14 years in parish ministry. Ryan lives with his wife, Anne, and their four children in St. Louis on the campus of the seminary.SCRIPTURE RELATED TO EPISODE:1 Thessalonians 4 : 11-12RELATED LINKS:Dr Ryan Tinetti's WebsiteBook: The Quiet AmbitionDr Ryan Tinetti's IVP BioDr Ryan Tinetti's at Concordia SeminaryTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Dr Ryan Tinetti02:44 - Book: The Quiet Ambition03:14 - ...the paradox03:26 - ...two kinds of ambition04:27 - ...help Christian lead meaningful lives shaped by the Gospel05:34 - Is Living in Quiet Desperation God's Vision for Us?06:31 - ...a slow seeping of hope07:59 - ...God's pulled us out of quiet desperation into quiet ambition08:37 - The inspiration: 1 Thessalonians 4:11-1208:54 - Quiet Ambition Contrasted with the World09:09 - ...the World's Perspective09:25 - ......restless & burnt out09:31 - ......resignation10:10 - ......the rotten fruit of trying to establish out identity on our own merits10:22 - ...Profound AND Straightforward10:38 - ......peace in resting in Christ10:50 - ......restlessness11:17 - ......tension in the struggle of activity12:26 - ......reality of desire to do great things for God and not having things work out13:24 - ...We Don't Have to Make a Name for Ourselves13:42 - ......we have had God's name placed on us14:07 - ......attend ourselves to quiet ambition (refill the hope tank)14:36 - Can Quiet Ambition Be Impactful?15:54 - ...Jesus walked out of the grave on the third day16:35 - ...in the Lord, your labor is not in vain17:12 - ...the Parable of the Talents18:09 - ...what we think of as very little is very large in the sight of our LordDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Christian hospitality is about people and relationships, not just spaces. It goes beyond opening our homes or extending invitations—it’s about cultivating a posture of welcome that reflects God’s presence and generosity wherever we go.Laura Baghdassarian Murray (DMin, Fuller Seminary) is the director of spiritual engagement and innovation at Fuller Seminary's Center for Spiritual Formation. She is the author of Pray as You Are, serves on the Ministry Collaborative Advisory Board, and previously served at Highland Park Presbyterian Church as the pastor of spiritual formation. Laura is also the founder of the Digital Silent Retreat Ministry, which is rooted in the practice of hospitality to provide brave and courageous spaces for people to connect with God and others.Dr Laura Murray - Fuller SeminaryDr Laura Murray - IVPressBook: Becoming a Person of WelcomeWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Extending the Welcome and Hospitality that We Have Receive from GodEmbodying Hospitality and Being an ExampleHospitality in Different ContextABOUT THE GUEST: Laura Baghdassarian Murray (DMin, Fuller Seminary) is the director of spiritual engagement and innovation at Fuller Seminary's Center for Spiritual Formation. She is the author of Pray as You Are, serves on the Ministry Collaborative Advisory Board, and previously served at Highland Park Presbyterian Church as the pastor of spiritual formation. Laura is also the founder of the Digital Silent Retreat Ministry, which is rooted in the practice of hospitality to provide brave and courageous spaces for people to connect with God and others.RELATED LINKS:Dr Laura Murray - Fuller SeminaryDr Laura Murray - IVPressBook: Becoming a Person of WelcomeTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Dr Laura Murray04:35 - Book - Becoming a Person of Welcome: The Spiritual Practice of Hospitality05:11 - Definition of Hospitality05:32 - ...welcome, internal and external07:36 - ...external protected space08:13 - ...internal protected space08:26 - ...God calls Israel to remember her stranger status10:56 - Growing Up in a Culture of Hospitality11:47 - ...fluid in hospitality / expectation of visitors12:58 - ...generosity / guests receives more13:15 - ...as a child growing up, hospitality can be difficult14:31 - Product of Two Cultures17:34 - Extending the Welcome and Hospitality that We Have Receive from God19:30 - Feeling Welcome and Belongingness in Church20:38 - ...feeling seen and wanted20:57 - ...feeling safety and security21:18 - ...being connected to other people's stories and be themselves24:56 - How Church Leadership Can Embody Hospitality and Be an Example25:31 - ...leadership needs to be secure in their own welcome that God has for them27:07 - ...remembering stranger status27:20 - ...protections and holding values of the church27:41 - ...difference between belonging and fitting in29:31 - Hospitality in the Digital Space33:36 - Hospitality in the Workplace, While Running Errands, or With Strangers34:07 - ...slowing down34:54 - ...noticing35:43 - ...being curious about people's stories36:20 - Doable Steps to Becoming More of a Person of Welcome37:13 - What did the Holy Spirit tell you?38:10 - Getting in touch with Dr Laura Murray and Finding her booksDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Does the church still matter in our modern world?After waves of disillusionment, #churchtoo movements, and political divides, it’s easy to question the value of investing in the church.Dr Carmen Joy Imes (PhD, Wheaton) is associate professor of Old Testament at Biola University. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the editor of Praying the Psalms with Augustine and Friends. Her new book is Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still Matters.Book: Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still MattersDr Carmen Imes' BlogWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Ways People Have Been Hurt by the ChurchUnity in a Multiethnic and Intergenerational CongregationChurch on the Couch is Not ChurchABOUT THE GUEST: Dr Carmen Joy Imes (PhD, Wheaton) is associate professor of Old Testament at Biola University. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the editor of Praying the Psalms with Augustine and Friends. Her new book is Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still Matters.RELATED LINKS:Dr Carmen Imes, Biola UniversityBook: Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still MattersDr Carmen Imes' BlogTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:40 - Introducing Dr Carmen Imes01:21 - Major Issues When People Experience Hurt in the Church02:14 - ...not being heard02:38 - ...gifts are not welcome nor recognized04:30 - ...conflicts, boredom, needs not met...04:45 - Ways to Minimize Hurting People05:48 - ... the role of trust and context07:26 - ...being vulnerable08:02 - ...engaging and working through differences08:31 - ...feeling well loved11:34 - Biblical Example of Belonging11:51 - ...metaphor of family12:23 - ...solidarity12:58 - ...individualism in our society13:48 - Unity in a Multiethnic and Intergenerational Congregation14:18 - ...learn to defer and love one another14:24 - ...de-center the majority culture16:30 - ...appreciate each other17:31 - Church on the Couch is Not Church17:47 - ...online church is a blessing if it is a necessity18:34 - ...but it is a poor substitute for in-person church19:01 - ...family needs to be together physically19:49 - ...your presence is important and encouraging to others20:07 - ...church is not just transmitting information; a community is bi-directional21:42 - Cultivate curiosity to hear people's stories24:45 - Finding Dr Carmen Imes and her booksDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Does the church still matter in our modern world?After waves of disillusionment, #churchtoo movements, and political divides, it’s easy to question the value of investing in the church.Dr Carmen Joy Imes (PhD, Wheaton) is associate professor of Old Testament at Biola University. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the editor of Praying the Psalms with Augustine and Friends. Her new book is Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still Matters.Book: Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still MattersDr Carmen Imes' BlogWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Understanding Our Identity as Being Part of God's FamilyWhy Do People Think God and Church Are Not Relevant?Helping People Who Have Been Hurt by the ChurchABOUT THE GUEST: Dr Carmen Joy Imes (PhD, Wheaton) is associate professor of Old Testament at Biola University. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the editor of Praying the Psalms with Augustine and Friends. Her new book is Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still Matters.RELATED LINKS:Dr Carmen Imes, Biola UniversityBook: Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still MattersDr Carmen Imes' BlogTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Dr Carmen Imes02:40 - God's Heart for Family02:56 - ...God creates a world and intends for everyone to flourish03:07 - ...God's plan to save the world begins with a family04:04 - ...Jesus is the new Adam and the pathway that we become God's family04:27 - Understanding Our Identity as Being Part of God's Family04:50 - ...every human being is the image of God05:32 - ...we are estranged from God so we don't live as God's family06:22 - ...seeing people as potential siblings08:57 - ...western church needs to learn that God works through people who have no power10:57 - ...Esther and Daniel model two different ways of navigating faith under oppressive empires11:47 - Why Do People Think God and Church Are Not Relevant?12:20 - ...individualism13:01 - ...quest for happiness14:05 - ...but encouragingly, religion is no longer a private matter, but people want to know what you believe16:35 - ...to share in the sufferings of others is part of what it means to become part of God's family18:03 - ...the most effective form of evangelism right now is coming alongside people who are in sorrow19:16 - The Church Addressing the Need for Community and Connection19:56 - ...the church is not for "making me a better me," but for becoming part of a family20:24 - ...if we don't connect, we still feel lonely21:20 - ...we are all equipped to serve each other21:54 - Helping People Who Have Been Hurt by the Church22:18 - ...don't rush past the hurt22:29 - ...how do our communities become malformed?23:11 - ...look honestly at the hurt and the harm26:20 - ..."smaller" reasons that draw people away from church27:46 - ...the goal is to find a healthy community to joinDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

When the burdens of life and ministry push you to your physical and mental breaking point, how can you lead yourself, let alone others? Dr Dudley's new book, Leading Through Storms: Successfully Navigating Ministry While Maintaining Your Mental Health, addresses that and more.Dr Geoffrey V. Dudley Sr. (PhD, Regent) is the founding and senior pastor of New Life in Christ Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the Metro East area of St. Louis, Missouri (O’Fallon, Illinois). Originally from Goldsboro, North Carolina, Dudley began ministry at the age of thirteen, was ordained by the United Holy Church of America in 1986, and is a retired Air Force chaplain and lieutenant colonel. He is also the CEO of iLead Enterprises, a leadership development platform for staff and workforce development. He and his wife, Glenda, have two adult children who are both ministry leaders.Dr Dudley on IVPressLeading Through Storms: Successfully Navigating Ministry While Maintaining Your Mental HealthWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Putting Down the Shame of Mental HealthRecognizing the Breaking Point When in StormsPractical Steps to Cultivating Self-Awareness, Emotional Resilience, and Self-CareABOUT THE GUEST: Dr Geoffrey Dudley, Sr, is the founding and senior pastor of New Life in Christ Church in O’Fallon, Illinois. Originally from Goldsboro, North Carolina, Dr Dudley began ministry at the age of thirteen, is a retired Air Force chaplain and lieutenant colonel, and also the CEO of iLead Enterprises, a leadership development platform for staff and workforce development.RELATED LINKS:Dr Dudley on IVPressLeading Through Storms: Successfully Navigating Ministry While Maintaining Your Mental HealthTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:07:01 - What is unique in Dr Dudley's approach to leadership?09:35 - ...how I messed up but the mission went forward with the faithfulness of God10:31 - Putting Down the Shame of Mental Health12:17 - ...authentic leadership12:58 - ...level of openness for teachers is different than that of pastors16:42 - Recognizing the Breaking Point When in Storms17:10 - ...Know thyself17:38 - ...leaders tend not to be reflective18:18 - Practical Steps to Cultivating Self-Awareness, Emotional Resilience, and Self-Care19:19 - ...what are the rhythms and seasons of your life?20:07 - ...taking time off and keeping it21:33 - ...check out the younger generation22:39 - ...emotionally dry23:25 - ...visionaries always have to have something to go after24:19 - How can Church Leadership and the Congregation Help?24:39 - ...demand that the leaders take time, have a coach or therapist29:10 - A Personal Look in Leading Through the Storm29:38 - ...before the storm30:01 - ...in the storm31:13 - ...after the storm32:32 - For the Next Generation of Pastors32:52 - ...keep the energy but reality will come around33:53 - ...God's timing34:20 - ...patience & trust35:19 - The book, Leading Through Storms, is Relevant because Life Has Storms35:46 - @BishopDudleyPhD on all platforms36:08 - Lead Better36:25 - Get Dr Geoffrey Dudley's book on Amazon and IVPDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Jen Chen's book, Dim Sum and Faith, is an invitation to pause, reflect, and rediscover the joy and peace that comes from knowing you are lovingly crafted by God. It’s about seeing how our stories are a part of God’s continuous formation in our lives.Jenn Chen's new book: Dim Sum and FaithJenn Chen's websites: Summit Clear and Personal WebsiteWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Importance of food, family, and memoriesRevisiting the painful parts of our storiesThe truth of our storiesABOUT THE GUEST: Jenn Suen Chen is a spiritual director, speaker, and leader in the area of spiritual formation and crosscultural ministry. She is co-director of Summit Clear (with her husband, John), an organization focused on providing spiritual direction, mentoring, and leadership coaching for those in crosscultural work. She serves with Pioneers and spent twenty-five years living in Asia raising her family. Jenn and John have four adult children and live in the Pacific Northwest.RELATED LINKS:Jenn Chen's new book: Dim Sum and FaithJenn Chen's websites: Summit Clear and Personal WebsiteTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:39 - Introducing Jenn Chen02:46 - Dim Sum and Faith - importance of food, family, and memories03:11 - ...reminders of home and memories04:07 - ...where did we come from?05:19 - Identity Shaped by Cross-Cultural Experiences09:03 - How Our Stories Form Our Beliefs09:20 - Dim Sum and Faith is about Spiritual Formation09:28 - ...God is about our transformation and our growth09:40 - ...relating to God in our context and understanding God through our lens10:50 - ...invitational by nature12:32 - ...it's still about relationship and identity13:51 - Revisiting the painful parts of our stories14:31 - ...story work with the Lord14:47 - ...living in China made her face her discomfort in being an Asian woman16:21 - ...her father transformed because of the gospel17:24 - ...pray through generational things17:40 - ...we carry values from past generations17:53 - ...giving things to the Lord18:56 - Getting an accurate picture of the effects of our stories19:26 - ...need the Holy Spirit to reveal the places in our heart that need healing19:33 - ...need others to mirror the truth to us19:41 - ...feelings are real, but not always true20:03 - ...some stories are good while other leave deep wounds24:17 - ...healing in community25:40 - Letting go of wrong beliefs25:56 - ...ask God to reveal our wrong beliefs26:29 - ...does God really love me?28:27 - Realizing God's plan for us28:50 - ...ask God to show us His heart28:54 - ...ask God what our gifts are29:14 - ...find others who want to do the same29:51 - ...take one step and say, "Yes"30:50 - ...sharing stories in safety and trust33:16 - Sharing stories and walking together33:43 - ...we are not alone; we all struggle34:11 - ..."one another"35:40 - ...my healing brings healing into someone else37:38 - Jenn's hope for the reader of Dim Sum and Faith37:55 - ...God meets us in our contexts38:42 - ...give language for and encourage that God is healer...39:04 - Closing thought40:16 - Getting in touch with Jenn Chen: IVP website, Amazon, Audible, Spotify, InstagramDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Josh has recently authored Remissioning Church, A Field Guide to Bringing a Congregation Back to Life, where he talks about transforming a church from the inside out to bring a new missional presence that brings life and flourishing to the neighborhood.Book: Remissioning ChurchWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:How and why congregations might be dyingRemissioning vs RevitalizingInside-out transformationABOUT THE GUEST: Josh Hayden is the co-founder and co-president of `Iwa Collaborative, which helps leaders fly high and live low as they lead through change processes in their community. He runs remissioning trainings through `Iwa Collaborative across various denominational, non-denominational, and global networks.Josh Hayden is the senior pastor at First Baptist Church in Ashland, Virginia. For over 20 years he has worked and led in nonprofit organizations, church plants, and established churches. He has a doctorate in leadership and organizational change from Duke Divinity School and is the author of Remissioning Church and Sacred Hope. He serves on the boards of numerous nonprofits. He and his family live near Richmond, Virginia.RELATED LINKS:Iwa CollaborativeFirst Baptist Ashland VATIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:01:22 - Introducing Pastor Josh Hayden05:32 - How and why congregations might be dying06:04 - ...churches in survival mode06:21 - ...counting, not reflecting Jesus06:42 - ...want people to lead, but rarely invite or train up leaders07:16 - ...afraid of conflict, stuck in tradition07:45 - How Josh's journey influenced the writing of the book09:22 - Established church vs church plant10:53 - Exploring the book title: Remissioning Church11:42 - ...Remissioning vs Revitalizing14:44 - ...Remissioning was not a word that people were using regularly16:27 - ...Is it RE-missioning or re-MISSION-ing?19:12 - How does church leadership assess if the church should be remissioned?19:28 - ...awareness of where the church is in the life cycle19:45 - ...spiritual health of the church19:53 - ...counting vs measuring20:02 - ...honest evaluation21:55 - How does the church leadership manage feelings in assessing a church?24:24 - ...helping people navigate loss and change25:35 - ...embrace conflict26:45 - What does a healthy church look like?26:47 - ...clear sense of how to make disciples who are good for the community27:30 - ...common life with the community27:36 - ...see change as God inviting us into a life-death-resurrection journey28:03 - ...disciple people inside the church so not to export the mission of God to others30:35 - What is the goal of remissioning a church?32:51 - What needs to happen for inside-out transformation to take place?33:19 - ...people discipling someone34:18 - ...learn to live on mission with God34:50 - ...live with more purpose and intention35:25 - How and why is discipleship the mission of the church?35:57 - ...a lot of pastors haven't been discipled36:25 - ...not clear on what a mature disciple looks like37:34 - ...church-hopping is the result of not having a clear discipleship process40:45 - If your church disappeared, would the community notice?DID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Brandon has extensive experience living and serving among least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. His time spent in the Middle East cultivated a deep passion for diaspora Muslims residing in gateway cities.Brandon's websiteWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Christians may be hesitate or fearful about engaging with Muslim neighborsMuslims might not have significant relationship with ChristiansHeart for Muslims as a ResourceABOUT THE GUEST: Brandon lives and serves least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. After spending significant time in the Middle East, he grew to have hearts for diaspora Muslims living in gateway cities. Brandon is the Executive Director of Heart For Muslims, a mission initiative with a passion to love Muslims, equip the Body of Christ, and connect people for gospel-centered serviceHeart for Muslims TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:03:17 - Calling to minister to Muslims04:33 - Christians may be hesitate or fearful about engaging with Muslim neighbors05:07 - ...seek out Heart for Muslims and tour a Muslim neighborhood07:30 - ...Vision and Mission trip07:55 - ...Muslims can be in the US for a long time and not have a significant relationship with a Christians12:55 - A Story of a Meaningful Relationship Illustrates the Power of Faithful Presence in Muslim Community20:05 - Engaging with Muslims during Ramadan25:10 - Getting involved with Heart for Muslims28:39 - HeartForMuslims.comDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Brandon has extensive experience living and serving among least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. His time spent in the Middle East cultivated a deep passion for diaspora Muslims residing in gateway cities.Brandon's websiteWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:The Gap Between the Christian and Muslim CommunitiesMost Effective Ways for Churches and Believers to Serve MuslimsHeart for Muslims as a ResourceABOUT THE GUEST: Brandon lives and serves least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. After spending significant time in the Middle East, he grew to have hearts for diaspora Muslims living in gateway cities. Brandon is the Executive Director of Heart For Muslims, a mission initiative with a passion to love Muslims, equip the Body of Christ, and connect people for gospel-centered serviceHeart for Muslims TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:01:21 - Introducing Brandon03:25 - Calling to minister to Muslims04:39 - Journey from the Middle East to NYC and Approach to Ministry05:32 - ...interdenominational seminary05:43 - ...international students05:56 - ...studying abroad at Jerusalem University06:52 - ...teaching ESL at Bethlehem Bible College07:03 - ...connecting point on seeing all people as God's creation07:57 - ...the only difference was knowing Jesus08:39 - ...journey of repentance09:13 - ...began feeling a calling to serve full-time in the Middle East10:22 - ...heard of work with displaced Muslims in North America11:19 - ...neighborhood in northern New Jersey and it's like Palestine13:46 - ...very limited concerted effort to reach Muslims around NYC with the gospel14:11 - ...freedom to share the gospel in NY/NJ that's not available in the Middle East15:10 - ...protection for Muslims who accept Jesus as Lord and Savior15:34 - Executive Director of Heart for Muslims16:18 - ...vision for the future of the Heart for Muslims conference18:07 - The gap between the Christian and Muslim communities19:11 - Most effective ways for churches and believers to serve Muslims19:44 - ...lack of knowledge20:03 - ...focus on a particular local people group20:40 - ...Step 1: Pray about whom to engage22:10 - ...Step 2: Who is already doing work among these people?22:40 - ...the Lord will reveal needs23:59 - ...Step 3: connect your life to theirs24:50 - ...Connect and Live with People25:51 - ...Heart for Muslims as a resourceDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Carl Jamal dedicated his life to serving underserved communities, equipping churches, and empowering individuals through faith-based outreach.Our conversation today will center around effective urban ministry—how churches can serve inner-city communities with dignity, navigate challenges, and build lasting relationships. We’ll also explore Carl’s unique approach to ministry through hip-hop, prison rehabilitation, and youth outreach.Carl Jamal's WebsiteBook Link: Urban Missionary Survival GuideWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:People, Not ProjectsDo's and Don'ts of Urban MinistryRole of Urban Missionaries in the ChurchABOUT THE GUEST: Carl Jamal is a dedicated community leader and music educator who has overcome significant personal challenges to empower others. Finding refuge in music during a difficult youth, Carl relocated to Atlanta over ten years ago and committed himself to community outreach and charitable work, earning recognition as a respected leader and volunteer. His passion for hip hop fuels his impactful work in prison rehabilitation and youth outreach programs, where he teaches music production and fosters self-expression. Through his resilience and dedication, Carl shares his wisdom and skills, empowering marginalized communities and inspiring positive change.Born and raised in Baltimore, Carl Jamal faced many challenges in their youth as their mother struggled with addiction and father was absent. Despite these obstacles, Carl Jamal found hope and inspiration in music, channeling their faith and creativity into a pathway toward a brighter future.After relocating to Atlanta over ten years ago, Carl Jamal dedicated his life to community outreach and charitable work, becoming a respected local leader and volunteer throughout the nation. His passion for hip hop music inspired his life's work in prison rehabilitation, and Youth outreach where he teaches prisoners and at-risk teens the art and technical know-how of music production, writing, and engineering.Carl Jamal’s unique approach to hip hop education helped him pioneer a new way to reach and connect with local youths. His workshops and events encourage youth to unleash their creativity through hip hop as a means of self-expression and empowerment.Despite the many setbacks and obstacles Carl Jamal encountered in their young life, they persevered with grace, skill, and ingenuity. Now Carl Jamal shares his wisdom, his love of hip hop, and life skills with others, continuing his journey of empowerment and positivity in the world.RELATED LINKS:Carl Jamal's WebsiteBook Link: Urban Missionary Survival GuideTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:01:21 - Introducing Carl Jamal Rumsey03:21 - How has Carl Jamal's childhood experiences shaped him?03:57 - ...visited Atlanta and saw church community and Christ05:43 - ...full-time in urban ministry06:27 - ...Maverick City Music Initiative07:07 - ... dedicated life to be a voice for the voiceless07:25 - Importance of Principle: People, Not Projects (Book)07:42 - ...church may treat people as a project or a program09:07 - Top 10 of Do's and Don'ts of Urban Ministry12:14 - ...why are you serving in urban ministry?12:36 - Importance of Serving with Dignity12:54 - ...Where is your heart?13:25 - Role of Urban Missionaries in the Church13:40 - ...use urban interests14:13 - ...be a missionary anywhere14:20 - ...be mission -minded15:39 - ...examples of using urban interests19:32 - ...staying away from labels that have stigma20:34 - How Carl Jamal's ministry are the hands and feet of Jesus22:42 - Care about the things that Jesus cares about23:22 - Upcoming Events23:39 - ...awareness of mass incarceration23:51 - Contacting Carl Jamal RumseyDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Youth ministry veteran Amy Williams ministers to teens involved in gangs and those lost in the criminal justice system with a key strategy of life-on-life mentoring.Amy Williams' WebsiteWorth Seeing: Viewing Others Through God’s EyesAmy Williams on IVPressWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Seeing People “through the lens of God” in Daily Interactions and Decision-MakingMeaningful Inclusion with At-Risk YouthLearning More from These Youths than Any Other GroupABOUT THE GUEST: Youth ministry veteran Amy Williams ministers to teens involved in gangs and those lost in the criminal justice system with a key strategy of life-on-life mentoring. As a certified gang intervention specialist, she heard God's call to move into a Latino gang neighborhood in Chicago's Humboldt Park community to be a "Hope Dealer" doing street outreach and walking life with young people on her block. Amy is project coordinator at New Life Centers, bringing in restorative justice programming to youth at juvenile prisons. Amy has been a youth pastor, a reentry coordinator, and a youth mentor and advocate. She is a graduate of both University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and National Louis University. She resides in Chicago and loves salsa dancing and is a true beach baby.TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:01:22 - Introducing Amy Williams05:42 - Amy's inspiration to work with high-risk youth06:42 - ...deepest pain can become greatest passion07:25 - ...pull for the underdog07:54 - Seeing People “through the lens of God” in Daily Interactions and Decision-Making08:07 - ...evaluate ability to see people through the lens of God08:42 - ...seeing the value and worth of young people09:09 - ...God created them for a purpose09:48 - Meaningful Inclusion with At-Risk Youth10:13 - ...moving from being watched to being seen10:49 - ...inviting them into a space where they should already be invited to11:12 - Justice and Mercy11:37 - ...the call is to serve both the harmed and the harm-doer12:05 - ...spirit of mercy12:31 - ...not "What's wrong with you?" but "What happened to you?"13:02 - ...compassion for both14:54 - ...understanding but not agreeing15:40 - ...opportunity to chnage the direction of kids' lives16:57 - ...hope that her book would inform us about the issues and help turn compassion into action17:25 - Learning More from These Youths than Any Other Group19:55 - The Need to Belong21:26 - Doing Better22:07 - ...include people who are involved in the situation22:57 - ...create spaces for the voices25:08 - What keeps you going after decades of such intense work?26:12 - ...God-given work26:37 - ...community of support27:06 - ...lost too many young people-- someone is praying for help28:43 - Give our young people a chance29:21 - Getting in touch with Amy Williams: ahopedealer.org29:49 - Book on ivpress.comDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr Todd Korpi, author of AI Goes to Church, unpacks one of the most significant technological advancements of our time—artificial intelligence—and what it means for the ministry. More than just another tech fad, AI presents both profound challenges and extraordinary opportunities for the church.Dr Todd Korpi's WebsiteDr Todd Korpi on IVPressBook: AI Goes to ChurchWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:AI and the BibleTheological Ethics PrinciplesChurch Leadership Starting the Conversation on AIABOUT THE GUEST: Todd Korpi (DMiss, Fuller Theological Seminary) is a pastor, missiologist, and church consultant. He is dean of digital ministry programs at Ascent College, assistant professor of Christian Leadership at Fuller Theological Seminary, and works in several capacities at OneHope whose mission is to affect destiny by providing God’s Word to all the children and youth of the world. He also serves as the lead researcher of the Digital Mission Consortia, a collaborative research initiative exploring the frontier of digital ministry. Todd is the author of Your Daughters Shall Prophesy and The Life-Giving Spirit as well as his new book, AI Goes to Church.RELATED LINKS:Dr Todd Korpi's WebsiteDr Todd Korpi on IVPressBook: AI Goes to ChurchTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:39 - Introducing Dr Todd Korpi01:32 - AI in the Bible?01:56 - ...AI and technology will challenge how Christians approach the Bible04:49 - ...How vs Why05:52 - ...Knowledge vs Wisdom06:45 - ...Stewardship of Creation08:07 - Human Relationship to AI Bots08:38 - ...human feelings and dynamics10:33 - ...look at our origin story - God created humans in His image16:03 - Theological Ethics Principles16:27 - ...already discussed: image of God, goodness of creation, mission of God16:42 - ...inaugurated eschatological hope18:29 - ...power and kingdom19:17 - ...human connection and culture care20:37 - ...citizenship and loyalty21:24 - ...mysterium tremendum ("holy awe")22:11 - ...shaping of the inner life22:31 - ...the economy of the kingdom22:40 - ...our prophetic responsibility23:15 - Church Leadership Starting the Conversation on AI23:26 - ...start small24:00 - ...do what is appropriate for the congregation24:27 - ...learn to prompt well on ChatGPT24:51 - ...automate the boring bits and protect the good stuff26:19 - ...prioritize the in-person things27:03 - ...regularly assess what is lost, left behind, or missing27:26 - ...operate in transparency and community30:25 - Why write a book on AI?30:47 - ...identity issues32:12 - ...AI having more impact than social media32:25 - ...take the mantle about how the AI and church can protect creation, culture, relationships33:57 - Book: amazon.com | Dr Todd Korpi: toddkorpi.com or @toddkorpiDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr Todd Korpi, author of AI Goes to Church, unpacks one of the most significant technological advancements of our time—artificial intelligence—and what it means for the ministry. More than just another tech fad, AI presents both profound challenges and extraordinary opportunities for the church.Dr Todd Korpi's WebsiteDr Todd Korpi on IVPressBook: AI Goes to ChurchWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:What is AI? What can it do and cannot do at the present time?Do churches hesitate in using AI and technology?How is AI technology currently used in the church?ABOUT THE GUEST: Todd Korpi (DMiss, Fuller Theological Seminary) is a pastor, missiologist, and church consultant. He is dean of digital ministry programs at Ascent College, assistant professor of Christian Leadership at Fuller Theological Seminary, and works in several capacities at OneHope whose mission is to affect destiny by providing God’s Word to all the children and youth of the world. He also serves as the lead researcher of the Digital Mission Consortia, a collaborative research initiative exploring the frontier of digital ministry. Todd is the author of Your Daughters Shall Prophesy and The Life-Giving Spirit as well as his new book, AI Goes to Church.RELATED LINKS:Dr Todd Korpi's WebsiteDr Todd Korpi on IVPressBook: AI Goes to ChurchTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:40 - Introducing Dr Todd Korpi03:29 - Science fiction shapes journey to technology04:03 - ...science fiction conveys possibilities06:27 - ...read our culture in the present moment by the popular culture07:55 - Do churches hesitate in using AI and technology?08:14 - ...global church & evangelism10:20 - ...local church11:04 - ...replacement by digital technology15:48 - How is AI technology currently used in the church and other avenues for reaching people with the gospel?17:36 - ...content curation and utilization19:32 - ...translation21:06 - ...automating the administrative, backend work23:57 - What is AI? What can it do and cannot do at the present time?25:15 - ...AI in the 1950's and the Turing test25:48 - ...rapid development in the last 20 years26:05 - ...Google, streaming service, social media, recommendations...27:06 - ...generative AI27:26 - ...theories on singularity event28:24 - ...right now, AI is fundamentally a mirror29:42 - ...cautious optimismDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Denise Daniels and Elaine Howard Ecklund co-authored a book, Working for Better: A New Approach to Faith at Work. It addresses a world where workplaces are becoming increasingly diverse with a timely guide for Christians navigating the modern faith-at-work landscape. Book: Working for Better (IVPress link)Book: Working for Better (amazon.com link)Wheaton CollegeWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Key Tensions of Faith at WorkInequalities Among MinoritiesRespecting Other Faiths Without CompromiseABOUT THE GUEST: Denise Daniels (PhD, Organizational Behavior, University of Washington) is Hudson T. Harrison Professor of Entrepreneurship at Wheaton College. Her scholarly interests include meaningful work, religion in the workplace, Sabbath, leadership, gender, and motivation. She has written over 50 academic articles and book chapters, and co-authored several books including, Working in the Presence of God (Hendrickson); Religion in a Changing Workplace (Oxford University Press); and Working for Better: A New Approach to Faith at Work (InterVarsity Press). She is on the board of a fintech company and also serves on the board of the Theology of Work Project (theologyofwork.org).RELATED LINKS:Book: Working for Better (IVPress link)Book: Working for Better (amazon.com link)Wheaton CollegeTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:37 - Introducing Dr Denise Daniels02:42 - Inspiration for researching faith tin the workplace02:53 - ...exhausted from work and family - looked at Sabbath04:20 - ...Book: Working for Better06:17 - Understanding the Lack of Sabbath07:52 - Summary of the Findings of the Research08:11 - ...people want to be their whole self at work09:51 - Surprising Conclusions from the Research10:15 - ...how many people were interested in engaging their faith at work10:36 - ...how few people viewed their work as a calling11:48 - Key Tensions of Faith at Work12:15 - ...Sacred / Secular Divide12:46 - ...Individual / Systemic Approach13:03 - ...Discrimination13:46 - ...Gender14:11 - Tensions Affecting Minority Groups15:26 - ...have you been asked to act contrary to your religious beliefs at work?17:32 - ...have you been discriminated against because of your sex?19:33 - ...regional differences20:48 - Other Inequalities Among Minorities21:02 - ...overlap with minority religion and people of color21:42 - ...Christians have a responsibility to create structure to be fair22:26 - ...principled pluralism22:54 - Christians being respectful of other faiths while living their own faith23:11 - ...respect different perspectives23:18 - ...listen to different perspectives24:22 - ...know and understand what you believe24:26 - ...engage respectfully24:29 - ...seek to understand26:24 - ...all people reflect the Imago Dei27:17 - Work / Rest28:06 - ...easy to work and ignore Sabbath29:21 - ...hard to disengage from established rhythms30:23 - ......desire to work: success leads to success30:29 - ......desire to work: affirmation from other people30:51 - ......intentionally rest32:50 - ...there is a cost to not resting33:31 - The hope is that the book, Working for Better, is useful to congregations and people34:33 - Finding the book, Working for Better: amazon, IVPress35:09 - Contact: wheaton.edu (Denise Daniels)DID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Michael Huerter (PhD, Baylor University), a pastor at Holmeswood Church in Kansas City, Missouri, shares on addressing the online and in-person church in a hybrid church model.Book: The Hybrid Congregation: A Practical Theology of Worship for an Online EraPastor Michael Huerter’s ChurchWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Exploring the church's relationship with the internetEngaging the in-person and online communities in the worship serviceBenefitting from social platformsABOUT THE GUEST: Michael Huerter (PhD, Baylor University) is a pastor at Holmeswood Church in Kansas City, Missouri, where he leads worship and works to build community and connection. As a lifelong church musician and digital native, he is interested in engaging with and contributing to scholarship that bridges the gap between research and practical ministry.RELATED LINKS:Pastor Michael Huerter’s ChurchThe Hybrid Congregation: A Practical Theology of Worship for an Online EraTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Pastor Michael Huerter02:30 - Exploring the church's relationship with the internet06:07 - Important considerations for live-streaming07:59 - ..the church of the future may look different than what we are accustomed to08:16 - ...the vast majority of churches do not have the resources to create a live broadcast every week09:50 - ...the community is made of people in-person and online13:58 - Engaging the in-person and online communities in the worship service15:07 - ...involving people who join online in worship leadership17:20 - ...creating interactive moments in the worship service to invite conversation or reflection21:10 - Benefitting from Social Platforms21:25 - ...Focus on people, remember the hybrid nature of our world22:16 - ...How can we best minister to the people already connected with our community?24:18 - How can we connect with and serve our surrounding community?25:02 - Are there people who cannot or will not engage in your church building?26:30 - Paying Attention as a spiritual discipline30:41 - ...finding ways to deeper attention and connection31:30 - ...be discerning in using technology; there's good and bad32:36 - The internet: our greatest affliction and greatest hope34:04 - Turning affliction to hope36:19 - Placing our cultural moment in historical context38:38 - Book on InterVarsity Press Academic and Amazon / Email Michael Huerter: [email protected] YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Tracie Braylock,  a holistic nurse educator and wellness consultant, shares about coping with stress and her new book, Radical Relaxation: Releasing the Stress You Were Never Meant to Carry. Stress is not just a fleeting feeling; it's a silent disruptor, quietly eroding your peace, your health, and your capacity to enjoy life as you know it. Radical Relaxation is your guide to reversing this toxic cycle.Radical Relaxation on IVPressTracie Braylock's WebsiteWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:What is stress and what does it do to the human body?Biblical Truths to understand in facing stressHow Churches Can Help Promote Wellness and Reduce StressABOUT THE GUEST: Tracie Braylock is a holistic nurse educator, wellness consultant, and the author of Radical Relaxation. As a former operating room nurse, she advocates for mind, body, spirit well-being, holistic wellness experiences, and liberating relaxation. Her work has been featured in the American Holistic Nurses Association New Beginnings magazine and Proverbs 31 Ministries.RELATED LINKS:Radical Relaxation on IVPressTracie Braylock's WebsiteTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:Spreadsheet to create time stamped show notes05:14 - What is stress and what does it do to the human body?05:24 - ...stress is subjective06:14 - ...stress needs to be addressed07:11 - Common signs and symptoms of stress07:21 - ..physical07:38 - ...emotional07:46 - ...spiritual07:55 - ...behavioral08:27 - Biblical Truths to understand in facing stress08:55 - ...biblical instructions are designed to protect us09:02 - ...reactions in the physical body09:26 - ...we are not alone09:56 - Holistic Healing: Mind, Body, Spirit10:07 - ...understanding that we have mind, body, and spirit10:49 - ...God care about every aspect11:47 - Preventing burnout and maintaining work-life priorities12:05 - ...no one is above sickness and stress13:41 - ...do the basics14:04 - ...be open to getting additional support18:36 - How Churches Can Help Promote Wellness and Reduce Stress19:04 - ...look for ways to come together outside of Sunday services20:17 - ...remind people21:00 - ...care for one another and ourselves21:14 - Favorite Ways to Release Stress23:12 - Relaxation is Like a Muscle...24:51 - Contacting Tracie Braylock - traciebraylock.comDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Pastor Naeem Fazal shares about how fear sneaks into our lives as worry, uncertainty, or discouragement, clouding our vision for a brighter future. By following Jesus' example, Fazal paints a vivid picture of a life enriched by hope and perseverance amidst adversity.Ex-Muslim on AmazonTomorrow Needs You on IVPressPastor Naeem's Church - Mosaic Church WebsiteGuest is a frequent contributor, founder, co-founder to/of blog post linkWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Beauty in Healing and TransformationRecognizing and Navigating FearThe Need to Be NeededABOUT THE GUEST: Naeem Fazal is the founding and lead pastor of Mosaic Church in Charlotte, North Carolina. He is a Pakistani, born and raised as a Muslim in Kuwait. He came to the United States shortly after the Gulf War and had a supernatural experience with Christ that changed the course of his life. He was ordained at Seacoast Church in Charleston and is the author of Ex-Muslim and Tomorrow Needs You. Naeem and his wife, Ashley, have two children.TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Welcome Back, Pastor Naeem Fazal02:11 - God Takes Naeem from a Fearful Past to a Beautiful Future03:07 - ...traumatic experiences03:59 - ..."No one needs me..."05:07 - ...a lie from the enemy05:48 - Beauty in Healing and Transformation06:16 - ...connection to what we feel is beautiful06:48 - ...the essence of beauty is love08:07 - ...we are created with love and are beautiful08:28 - ...religion vs perfect love11:07 - ...put a joy before you to endure your cross11:49 - Recognizing Fear12:07 - ... the symptoms of fear14:18 - ...needing to feel that you are in control15:24 - ...high or volatile emotions15:32 - Navigating Fear15:44 - Choosing Beauty Over Fear16:05 - ...put a leash on fear19:16 - Difficulty in Cultivating Joy When Gripped by Fear19:44 - ...kindess and gratitude23:15 - Surrounding Ourselves with Positive Influences23:57 - ...set good boundaries26:14 - Reframing Failure and Rejection as Steppingstones28:53 - The Need to Be Needed29:24 - ..people want to be significant31:23 - Encouraging Someone Who Feel He Has "Missed" Tomorrow33:38 - Contacting Pastor Naeem Fazal and Finding His BooksDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Pastor Naeem Fazal shares his story about how Jesus revealed Himself to a young, brash, Pakistani Muslim. But He didn’t just reveal Himself; He turned Naeem’s world upside down.Ex-Muslim on AmazonTomorrow Needs You on IVPressPastor Naeem's Church - Mosaic Church WebsiteGuest is a frequent contributor, founder, co-founder to/of blog post linkWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Ex-Muslim - testimony of encounter with ChristThree components to sharing the gospel with MuslimsCommon mistakes that Christians make in witnessing to MuslimsABOUT THE GUEST: Naeem Fazal is the founding and lead pastor of Mosaic Church in Charlotte, North Carolina. He is a Pakistani, born and raised as a Muslim in Kuwait. He came to the United States shortly after the Gulf War and had a supernatural experience with Christ that changed the course of his life. He was ordained at Seacoast Church in Charleston and is the author of Ex-Muslim and Tomorrow Needs You. Naeem and his wife, Ashley, have two children.RELATED LINKS:Heart for Muslims – link to specific page if mentioned in episodeTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:39 - Introducing Pastor Naeem Fazal04:24 - Book: Ex-Muslim - testimony of encounter with Christ06:07 - ...treason08:03 - ..."intoxicated" with peace09:05 - ...God pursues humanity09:33 - ...demonic presence11:27 - ...brother tells him about spiritual warfare12:05 - ...only Jesus has authority over demons13:29 - ..."I am Jesus and your life is not your own"14:47 - ...woke knowing that he was supposed to be in ministry15:02 - ...led siblings and his father to Christ15:41 - God has used "extraordinary means" to guide Naeem's life16:16 - ...coming to Christ was so different from that of other Christians around him16:46 - ...easy to walk away from a belief or faith, but harder to walk away from a person17:54 - ...miracles in education19:06 - ...seeing supernatural things in siblings' lives22:06 - Specific expectations from Muslims or Christians22:26 - ...didn't understand that he was considered a traitor by Muslims24:25 - ...some people did not believe that he is a Christian26:57 - Three components to sharing the gospel with Muslims27:14 - ...knowledge29:07 - ...emotional connection30:51 - ...spiritual awareness32:22 - Common mistakes that Christians make in witnessing to Muslims32:56 - ...comparing religion to religion36:06 - ...arguing Bible vs Koran38:20 - ...Jesus doesn't tell us to defend Him; He said to share the gospel and live it out39:02 - What can churches do to partner with organizations that reach out to Muslims?41:51 - ...ask ourselves about the prejudice that we might carry43:16 - ...find an organization or adopt a mosque46:22 - Hope for the Effect of Book, Ex-MuslimDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Youth ministry veteran Amy Williams ministers to teens involved in gangs and those lost in the criminal justice system with a key strategy of life-on-life mentoring.Amy Willliams' WebsiteWorth Seeing: Viewing Others Through God’s EyesAmy Williams on IVPressWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Seeing People “through the lens of God” in Daily Interactions and Decision-MakingMeaningful Inclusion with At-Risk YouthLearning More from These Youths than Any Other GroupABOUT THE GUEST: Youth ministry veteran Amy Williams ministers to teens involved in gangs and those lost in the criminal justice system with a key strategy of life-on-life mentoring. As a certified gang intervention specialist, she heard God's call to move into a Latino gang neighborhood in Chicago's Humboldt Park community to be a "Hope Dealer" doing street outreach and walking life with young people on her block. Amy is project coordinator at New Life Centers, bringing in restorative justice programming to youth at juvenile prisons. Amy has been a youth pastor, a reentry coordinator, and a youth mentor and advocate. She is a graduate of both University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and National Louis University. She resides in Chicago and loves salsa dancing and is a true beach baby.TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Amy Williams04:58 - Amy's inspiration to work with high-risk youth05:58 - ...deepest pain can become greatest passion06:41 - ...pull for the underdog07:10 - Seeing People “through the lens of God” in Daily Interactions and Decision-Making07:23 - ...evaluate ability to see people through the lens of God07:58 - ...seeing the value and worth of young people08:25 - ...God created them for a purpose09:04 - Meaningful Inclusion with At-Risk Youth09:29 - ...moving from being watched to being seen10:05 - ...inviting them into a space where they should already be invited to10:28 - Justice and Mercy10:54 - ...the call is to serve both the harmed and the harm-doer11:21 - ...spirit of mercy11:48 - ...not "What's wrong with you?" but "What happened to you?"12:19 - ...compassion for both14:10 - ...understanding but not agreeing14:56 - ...opportunity to change the direction of kids' lives16:13 - ...hope that her book would inform us about the issues and help turn compassion into action16:41 - Learning More from These Youths than Any Other Group19:11 - The Need to Belong20:42 - Doing Better21:23 - ...include people who are involved in the situation22:13 - ...create spaces for the voices24:24 - What keeps you going after decades of such intense work?25:28 - ...God-given work25:53 - ...community of support26:22 - ...lost too many young people-- someone is praying for help27:59 - Give our young people a chance28:37 - Getting in touch with Amy Williams: ahopedealer.org29:05 - Book on ivpress.comDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Pastor Joshua Hayden has recently authored Remissioning Church, A Field Guide to Bringing a Congregation Back to Life, where he talks about transforming a church from the inside out to bring a new missional presence that brings life and flourishing to the neighborhood.Book: Remissioning ChurchWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Why the tried and true strategies for church growth not working so well anymoreCreative Destruction, Exegeting the Culture or Neighborhood, and Traditioned InnovationPatterns and Stages that a Church Might Experience in RemissioningABOUT THE GUEST: Josh Hayden is the co-founder and co-president of `Iwa Collaborative, which helps leaders fly high and live low as they lead through change processes in their community. He runs remissioning trainings through `Iwa Collaborative across various denominational, non-denominational, and global networks.Josh Hayden is the senior pastor at First Baptist Church in Ashland, Virginia. For over 20 years he has worked and led in nonprofit organizations, church plants, and established churches. He has a doctorate in leadership and organizational change from Duke Divinity School and is the author of Remissioning Church and Sacred Hope. He serves on the boards of numerous nonprofits. He and his family live near Richmond, Virginia.RELATED LINKS:Iwa CollaborativeFirst Baptist Ashland VATIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:01:51 - Book: Remissioning Church02:11 - Don't export your God-given mission to others02:48 - Why the tried and true strategies for church growth not working so well anymore02:54 - ...what most churches are doing have not produced healthy disciples that produce the fruit of the Spirit03:28 - ...churches don't look much different from any other group04:30 - ...we have lost the missional impulse to know our neighbors06:40 - Major sections of the book: Creative Destruction, Exegeting the Culture or Neighborhood, and Traditioned Innovation06:59 - ...Creative Destruction08:36 - ...connected to Jesus (Matthew 16 : 24-25 - take up our cross and foloow Jesus)10:49 - Exegeting the Church and Neighborhood11:55 - ...creating a plan for how to live on mission creatively with God14:20 - Traditioned Innovation15:18 - ...we have to translate the past into what's next18:55 - Patterns and Stages that a Church Might Experience in Remissioning19:04 - Free download: www.ivpress.com/Media/Default/Downloads/Excerpts-and-Samples/A1055-Graphic-Image-Download.pdf19:14 - ...remissioning change cycle19:34 - ...do we have a mission worth dying for?19:48 - ...working through pain, disillusionment and being unnerved20:40 - ...then comes a moment of repent or resist22:24 - ...do we have a mission worth living for?27:24 - ...take the necessary time in the wilderness31:11 - Common Concerns in Remissioning a Church32:04 - Leading Through Remissioning36:21 - Favorite Tools36:25 - ...exegeting the neighborhood37:13 - ...the work of remembering39:07 - Remissioning is worth it39:54 - Getting in Touch with Pastor Joshua Hayden - iwacollaborative.comDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Josh has recently authored Remissioning Church, A Field Guide to Bringing a Congregation Back to Life, where he talks about transforming a church from the inside out to bring a new missional presence that brings life and flourishing to the neighborhood.Book: Remissioning ChurchWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:How and why congregations might be dyingRemissioning vs RevitalizingInside-out transformationABOUT THE GUEST: Josh Hayden is the co-founder and co-president of `Iwa Collaborative, which helps leaders fly high and live low as they lead through change processes in their community. He runs remissioning trainings through `Iwa Collaborative across various denominational, non-denominational, and global networks.Josh Hayden is the senior pastor at First Baptist Church in Ashland, Virginia. For over 20 years he has worked and led in nonprofit organizations, church plants, and established churches. He has a doctorate in leadership and organizational change from Duke Divinity School and is the author of Remissioning Church and Sacred Hope. He serves on the boards of numerous nonprofits. He and his family live near Richmond, Virginia.RELATED LINKS:Iwa CollaborativeFirst Baptist Ashland VATIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:39 - Introducing Pastor Josh Hayden04:49 - How and why congregations might be dying05:21 - ...churches in survival mode05:38 - ...counting, not reflecting Jesus05:59 - ...want people to lead, but rarely invite or train up leaders06:33 - ...afraid of conflict, stuck in tradition07:02 - How Josh's journey influenced the writing of the book08:39 - Established Church vs Church Plant10:10 - Exploring the book title: Remissioning Church10:59 - ...Remissioning vs Revitalizing14:01 - ...Remissioning was not a word that people were using regularly15:44 - ...Is it RE-missioning or re-MISSION-ing?18:29 - How does church leadership assess if the church should be remissioned?18:45 - ...awareness of where the church is in the life cycle19:02 - ...spiritual health of the church19:10 - ...counting vs measuring19:19 - ...honest evaluation21:12 - How does the church leadership manage feelings in assessing a church?23:40 - ...helping people navigate loss and change24:52 - ...embrace conflict26:02 - What does a healthy church look like?26:04 - ...clear sense of how to make disciples who are good for the community26:47 - ...common life with the community26:53 - ...see change as God inviting us into a life-death-resurrection journey27:20 - ...disciple people inside the church so not to export the mission of God to others29:51 - What is the goal of remissioning a church?32:08 - What needs to happen for inside-out tranforamtion to take place?32:36 - ...people disclipling someone33:35 - ...learn to live on mission with God34:07 - ...live with more purpose and intention34:42 - How and why is discipleship the mission of the chuch?35:14 - ...a lot of pastors haven't been discipled35:42 - ...not clear on what a mature disciple looks like36:51 - ...church-hopping is the result of not having a clear discipleship process40:02 - If your church disappeared, would the community notice?DID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr. Octavio Esqueda, full Professor of Christian Higher Education and Director of the Ph.D. and Ed.D. Programs in Educational Studies at the Talbot School of Theology at Biola University, shares on how the gospel redefines masculinity. Dr Esqueda's WebsiteDr Esqueda's Website (Spanish)Dr Esqueda's BooksDr Esqueda on X.comWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Mother's Day vs Father's Day in ChurchesImportant Messages to HighlightCharacter, not CompetencyABOUT THE GUEST: Octavio Javier Esqueda is a full Professor of Christian Higher Education and Director of the Ph.D. and Ed.D. Programs in Educational Studies at Talbot School of Theology at Biola University. He was born and raised in Guadalajara, México. He graduated with honors with a Licenciatura in Latin American Literature from the University of Guadalajara and two additional diplomas, one in Religion and Society and the second in Journalism. He graduated with honors from Dallas Theological Seminary and completed his Ph.D. in Higher Education at the University of North Texas. He and his wife, Angélica, have two children, Darío and Salma. Dr. Esqueda has several publications on theological education and Christian higher education, practical theology, and literature. Teaching is his passion, and he has had the opportunity to teach in several countries on different academic levels. He is an avid soccer fan.TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:37 - Introducing Dr. Octavio Esqueda03:19 - Differences in Mother's Day and Father's Day Observances in Churches06:07 - How Churches Can Improve in This Area06:42 - ...elevate Father's Day like Mother's Day06:47 - ...two important messages that need to be highlighted07:06 - ......the mothers' affirmation come from being - her love is unconditional07:16 - ......when the fathers' affirmation comes from doing - it's never enough07:49 - ......many fathers believe that their role is to provide, so they are never with their family08:01 - ...but as Christians, our value is in who we are08:47 - ...A key aspect of adult motivation is feeling competent09:26 - ...but no one teaches us how to be a parent10:00 - ...emphasizing the value of who we are gives us the desire to do without fearing failure10:42 - Character, not Competency11:30 - ...instead of pulling in the cultural norms, bring the gospel out12:34 - A Common Problem in Evangelicalism12:51 - ...we forget that the whole message is about grace13:14 - ...God loves us unconditionally not only at salvation, but for our whole lives14:19 - Unique Challenges Faced by Men of Color14:48 - ...expression of love and affection are not affirmed14:59 - ...or to imitate a model that was absent15:07 - ...tell parents how to live a Christian life16:43 - ...need to know how and be trained17:10 - ..cultural expectations for men19:48 - God's Love in the Story of the Prodigal Son21:23 - Breaking the Cycle Starts with Us23:19 - Contacting Dr Octavio Esqueda: amazon.com | x.com/OctavioEsqueda | LinkedInDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Pastor Drew Hyun explains how the Christian faith provides a lens through which we can understand the beautiful and disappointing world we live in, while offering the kind of promising hope we long for.Book:  Beautiful, Disappointing, HopefulHope Church NYC WebsiteDrew Hyun WebsiteWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Three Types of Books About ChristianityTension that Many Believers ExperienceThree Deep PracticesABOUT THE GUEST: Drew Hyun is the Founder and Lead Pastor of Hope Church NYC, a diverse church with three locations in New York City. Drew is also the Executive Director of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship, an organization that aims to transform church culture through the multiplication of deeply changed pastors and leaders. He regularly speaks at churches, conferences and college campuses throughout the United States and abroad. He is a graduate of UC Berkeley, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (M.Div), and Fuller Theological Seminary (DMin). Drew loves cities, ESPN, and naps, and finds it a restful Sabbath when all three come together. He resides in New York City with his wife Christina and their son David and daughter Avery. Drew is the author of Beautiful, Disappointing, Hopeful: How Gratitude, Grief, and Grace Reflect the Christian Story, available at  Amazon, Churchsource, or Barnes and Noble.RELATED LINKS:Hope Church NYC WebsiteDrew Hyun WebsiteEmotionally Healthy Discipleship WebsiteTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Drew Hyun03:10 - Drew's Journey to Urban Ministry in NYC04:43 - Calling to NYC and Church Planting05:38 - Motivation for Writing Book: Beautiful, Disappointing, Hopeful06:03 - ...Three Types of Books About Christianity07:16 - ...Explain the Christian Faith in Three Simple Memorable Words08:12 - ...The Christian faith gives a compelling picture of why both beauty, disappointment, and hope exist08:33 - ...Practices of gratitude, grief, and grace so Christians can live a resilient, flourishing life08:53 - ...Written for various audiences12:34 - Influence of Drew's Father's Call to Ministry12:59 - ...Drew is a Christian despite growing up in church13:30 - ...Finding Jesus to be true and compelling14:05 - ...Reconciliation with his father14:37 - Two kinds of grief18:07 - Tension that Many Believers Experience19:54 - ...the story of the Christian faith starts with a good God creating a beautiful world22:24 - ...posture to take from a beautiful world is gratitude22:36 - ...but we struggle with gratitude and being alert the goodness of God23:25 - ...but the world is also incredibly disappointing25:49 - Creation - Fall - Redemption - Restoration26:48 - Three Deep Practices: Gratitude, Grief, Grace27:19 - ...invitation to live into gratitude29:09 - ...grief - two kinds of pain31:13 - ...grace is God's posture towards us32:01 - Meshing the Book's Concepts with Emotionally Healthy Discipleship32:56 - Hope for the Readers of the Book34:37 - Contact Drew Hyun at www.drewhyun.comDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Carl Jamal dedicated his life to serving underserved communities, equipping churches, and empowering individuals through faith-based outreach.Our conversation today will center around effective urban ministry—how churches can serve inner-city communities with dignity, navigate challenges, and build lasting relationships. We’ll also explore Carl’s unique approach to ministry through hip-hop, prison rehabilitation, and youth outreach.Carl Jamal's WebsiteBook Link: Urban Missionary Survival GuideWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:People, Not ProjectsDo's and Don'ts of Urban MinistryRole of Urban Missionaries in the ChurchABOUT THE GUEST: Carl Jamal is a dedicated community leader and music educator who has overcome significant personal challenges to empower others. Finding refuge in music during a difficult youth, Carl relocated to Atlanta over ten years ago and committed himself to community outreach and charitable work, earning recognition as a respected leader and volunteer. His passion for hip hop fuels his impactful work in prison rehabilitation and youth outreach programs, where he teaches music production and fosters self-expression. Through his resilience and dedication, Carl shares his wisdom and skills, empowering marginalized communities and inspiring positive change.Born and raised in Baltimore, Carl Jamal faced many challenges in their youth as their mother struggled with addiction and father was absent. Despite these obstacles, Carl Jamal found hope and inspiration in music, channeling their faith and creativity into a pathway toward a brighter future.After relocating to Atlanta over ten years ago, Carl Jamal dedicated his life to community outreach and charitable work, becoming a respected local leader and volunteer throughout the nation. His passion for hip hop music inspired his life's work in prison rehabilitation, and Youth outreach where he teaches prisoners and at-risk teens the art and technical know-how of music production, writing, and engineering.Carl Jamal’s unique approach to hip hop education helped him pioneer a new way to reach and connect with local youths. His workshops and events encourage youth to unleash their creativity through hip hop as a means of self-expression and empowerment.Despite the many setbacks and obstacles Carl Jamal encountered in their young life, they persevered with grace, skill, and ingenuity. Now Carl Jamal shares his wisdom, his love of hip hop, and life skills with others, continuing his journey of empowerment and positivity in the world.RELATED LINKS:Carl Jamal's WebsiteBook Link: Urban Missionary Survival GuideTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Carl Jamal Rumsey02:38 - How has Carl Jamal's childhood experiences shaped him?03:14 - ...visited Atlanta and saw church community and Christ04:59 - ...full-time in urban ministry05:44 - ...Maverick City Music Initiative06:24 - ...dedicated life to be a voice for the voiceless06:42 - Importance of Principle: People, Not Projects (Book)06:59 - ...church may treat people as a project or a program08:24 - Top 10 of Do's and Don'ts of Urban Ministry11:31 - ...why are you serving in urban ministry?11:53 - Importance of Serving with Dignity12:11 - ...Where is your heart?12:42 - Role of Urban Missionaries in the Church12:57 - ...use urban interests13:30 - ...be a missionary anywhere13:37 - ...be mission -minded14:56 - ...examples of using urban interests18:49 - ...staying away from labels that have stigma19:51 - How Carl Jamal's ministry are the hands and feet of Jesus21:58 - Care about the things that Jesus cares about22:39 - Upcoming Events22:56 - ...awareness of mass incarceration23:08 - Contacting Carl Jamal RumseyDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr.  Mark Glanville shared thoughts from his new book, Preaching in a New Key: Crafting Expository Sermons in Post-Christian Neighborhoods and how preaching can adapt to the complexities of faith in our time—especially where traditional assumptions about faith and Scripture no longer hold and where people are seeking relational leadership.Dr Mark Glanville's WebsiteBook Info: Preaching in a New KeyWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Key Shifts in PreachingAddressing Difficult Bible VersesDrawing from Diverse Traditions and Listening to Diverse VoicesABOUT THE GUEST: Dr Mark Glanville works as the Director of the Centre for Missional Leadership at St. Andrews Hall, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada. He is an Old Testament scholar and has written five books, including Improvising Church: Scripture as the Source of Harmony, Rhythm, and Soul and Preaching in a New Key: Crafting Expository Sermons in Post-Christian Neighborhoods. Mark’s vocational goal is to research, teach, write, speak, and play music to nourish Christian leaders to creatively reimagine what the church can be and do in post-Christian societies, with the Bible in our hands. Mark is also a professional jazz pianist, active on the Vancouver jazz scene. Mark’s podcast is Blue Note Theology, which he hosts from the grand piano.RELATED LINKS:Regent CollegeDr Mark Glanville's PodcastTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:01:06 - Mark's Background and Family01:48 - Key Shifts in Preaching02:21 - ...trauma-informed preaching05:08 - ...holistic health14:29 - Addressing DIfficult Biblical Passages15:08 - ...people come with beautiful values about justice16:17 - ...show the beauty of the Biblical text17:11 - ...be patient with the Biblical text24:33 - Drawing from Diverse Traditions and Listening to Diverse Voices25:47 - ...requires an intercultural lens26:17 - ...recontextualize Scripture to people28:46 - ...diverse voices in the pulpit28:56 - One Key Piece of Advice30:18 - Nourish the Community34:26 - Getting in Touch with Mark and Finding His BooksDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr.  Mark Glanville shared thoughts from his new book, Preaching in a New Key: Crafting Expository Sermons in Post-Christian Neighborhoods and how preaching can adapt to the complexities of faith in our time—especially where traditional assumptions about faith and Scripture no longer hold and where people are seeking relational leadership.Dr Mark Glanville's WebsiteBook Info: Preaching in a New KeyWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:People Relate to Scripture Differently Today than 50 Years AgoRecontextualization in the CultureShifts in Faith and How People Relate to ScriptureABOUT THE GUEST: Dr Mark Glanville works as the Director of the Centre for Missional Leadership at St. Andrews Hall, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada. He is an Old Testament scholar and has written five books, including Improvising Church: Scripture as the Source of Harmony, Rhythm, and Soul and Preaching in a New Key: Crafting Expository Sermons in Post-Christian Neighborhoods. Mark’s vocational goal is to research, teach, write, speak, and play music to nourish Christian leaders to creatively reimagine what the church can be and do in post-Christian societies, with the Bible in our hands. Mark is also a professional jazz pianist, active on the Vancouver jazz scene. Mark’s podcast is Blue Note Theology, which he hosts from the grand piano.RELATED LINKS:Regent CollegeDr Mark Glanville's PodcastTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Mark Glanville03:19 - Mark's Background and Family04:00 - Mark's New Book: Preaching in a New Key04:57 - People Relate to Scripture Differently Today than 50 Years Ago05:34 - Expository Preaching Has Never Been More Important05:55 - The deeper into post-Christian context, people crave to know Christian teaching06:48 - Questions for Context and Clarity07:18 - ... 1. post-Christian culture11:11 - ... 2. Recontextualization in the Culture16:05 - An Illustration from Music21:42 - Shifts in Faith and How People Relate to Scripture21:57 - ...people used to come to church with Bibles under their arms,22:04 - ...but now they come with questions on their minds22:48 - ...the key might be reversing the direction of flow in preaching23:40 - ...showing the beauty of Jesus in Scripture23:42 - ...winning people to Jesus, AND to Scripture itself28:11 - Contacting Mark and Finding His BooksDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Aimee Huber is the Executive Director of First Choice Women's Resource Centers in New Jersey. She has dedicated over three decades to supporting women and men facing unplanned pregnancies, providing them with counseling, medical services, and practical support. Aimee Huber's WebsiteWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:How Pregnancy Resource Centers support men & womenHow church can support Pregnancy Resource CentersHow to talk to someone facing an unplanned pregnancyABOUT THE GUEST: A pastor's daughter, Aimee Huber serves as the Executive Director of First Choice Women's Resource Centers. First Choice's mission is to protect the unborn by empowering women. Since 1990, she has had the privilege of seeing God grow their ministry in New Jersey from one to five locations, all with medical services. She holds a B.A. from Rutgers University and lives in Central NJ with her husband and two teenage children.TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Aimee Huber03:48 - Inspiration for involvement at First Choice for 33 years05:35 - The Mission of First Choice and Services Offered05:44 - ...protect the unborn by empowering women05:51 - ......prevention06:04 - ......intervention06:17 - ......restoration06:40 - .........walking with the hurt08:05 - .........trauma09:37 - How Pregnancy Resources Centers Fit Into the Larger Picture of Urban Ministry09:46 - ...extension of the local church10:32 - Unique Challenges When Faced with an Unplanned Pregnancy in an Urban Setting10:55 - ...SOS: S - scared, O - overwhelming pressures, S - strengths12:01 - ...Overwhelming pressures are magnified12:10 - ......single-parent homes12:21 - ......younger siblings12:33 - ......housing12:42 - ......desire to break generational patterns13:21 - Story of a Client Whose Life Was Transformed by First Choice's work14:53 - How Can Churches and Urban Ministries Support Pregnancy Resource Centers15:07 - ...identify and connect with a local pregnancy center15:35 - ......share in church services15:50 - ......contribute financially16:04 - ......volunteer at a pregnancy center16:12 - ......employment17:24 - ...hesitancy to speak about pregnancy and abortion17:48 - ......present in a caring and compassionate way20:00 - What Would You Tell Someone Facing an Unplanned Pregnancy?21:35 - ...Speaking Truth in Love and Honesty without Judgment21:39 - ...The model is Jesus22:12 - ...4.9 out of 5.0 stars on Google Reviews22:22 - ...the most frequent comment is, "I didn't feel judged"24:20 - Email Aimee at [email protected] YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Brandon has extensive experience living and serving among least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. His time spent in the Middle East cultivated a deep passion for diaspora Muslims residing in gateway cities.Brandon's websiteWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Christians may be hesitate or fearful about engaging with Muslim neighborsMuslims might not have significant relationship with ChristiansHeart for Muslims as a ResourceABOUT THE GUEST: Brandon lives and serves least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. After spending significant time in the Middle East, he grew to have hearts for diaspora Muslims living in gateway cities. Brandon is the Executive Director of Heart For Muslims, a mission initiative with a passion to love Muslims, equip the Body of Christ, and connect people for gospel-centered serviceHeart for Muslims TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:02:34 - Calling to minister to Muslims03:50 - Christians may be hesitate or fearful about engaging with Muslim neighbors04:24 - ...seek out Heart for Muslims and tour a Muslim neighborhood06:47 - ...Vision and Mission trip07:11 - ...Muslims can be in the US for a long time and not have a significant relationship with Christians12:12 - A Story of a Meaningful Relationship Illustrates the Power of Faithful Presence in Muslim Community19:22 - Engaging with Muslims during Ramadan24:27 - Getting involved with Heart for Muslims27:56 - HeartForMuslims.comDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Brandon has extensive experience living and serving among least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. His time spent in the Middle East cultivated a deep passion for diaspora Muslims residing in gateway cities.Brandon's websiteWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:The Gap Between the Christian and Muslim CommunitiesMost Effective Ways for Churches and Believers to Serve MuslimsHeart for Muslims as a ResourceABOUT THE GUEST: Brandon lives and serves least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. After spending significant time in the Middle East, he grew to have hearts for diaspora Muslims living in gateway cities. Brandon is the Executive Director of Heart For Muslims, a mission initiative with a passion to love Muslims, equip the Body of Christ, and connect people for gospel-centered serviceHeart for Muslims TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Brandon02:42 - Calling to Minister to Muslims03:56 - Journey from the Middle East to NYC and Approach to Ministry04:48 - ...interdenominational seminary05:00 - ...international students05:13 - ...studying abroad at Jerusalem University06:09 - ...teaching ESL at Bethlehem Bible College06:20 - ...connecting point on seeing all people as God's creation07:13 - ...the only difference was knowing Jesus07:56 - ...journey of repentance08:30 - ...began feeling a calling to serve full-time in the Middle East09:39 - ...heard of work with displaced Muslims in North America10:36 - ...neighborhood in northern New Jersey and it's like Palestine13:03 - ...very limited concerted effort to reach Muslims around NYC with the gospel13:27 - ...freedom to share the gospel in NY/NJ that's not available in the Middle East14:27 - ...protection for Muslims who accept Jesus as Lord and Savior14:50 - Executive Director of Heart for Muslims15:35 - ...vision for the future of the Heart for Muslims conference17:24 - The Gap Between the Christian and Muslim Communities18:28 - Most Effective Ways for Churches and Believers to Serve Muslims19:01 - ...gain knowledge19:20 - ...focus on a particular local people group19:56 - ...Step 1: Pray about whom to engage21:27 - ...Step 2: Who is already doing work among these people?21:57 - ...the Lord will reveal needs23:15 - ...Step 3: Connect your life to theirs24:07 - Connect and Live with People25:08 - Heart for Muslims as a ResourceDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr. Octavio Esqueda, full Professor of Christian Higher Education and Director of the Ph.D. and Ed.D. Programs in Educational Studies at the Talbot School of Theology at Biola University, shares on higher education for Christian minorities. Dr Esqueda's WebsiteDr Esqueda's Website (Spanish)Dr Esqueda's BooksDr Esqueda on X.comWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Challenges of Hispanic faculty in Christian collegesWhy context is important (Bible translation)Unity in the churchABOUT THE GUEST: Octavio Javier Esqueda is a full Professor of Christian Higher Education and Director of the Ph.D. and Ed.D. Programs in Educational Studies at Talbot School of Theology at Biola University. He was born and raised in Guadalajara, México. He graduated with honors with a Licenciatura in Latin American Literature from the University of Guadalajara and two additional diplomas, one in Religion and Society and the second in Journalism. He graduated with honors from Dallas Theological Seminary and completed his Ph.D. in Higher Education at the University of North Texas. He and his wife, Angélica, have two children, Darío and Salma. Dr. Esqueda has several publications on theological education and Christian higher education, practical theology, and literature. Teaching is his passion, and he has had the opportunity to teach in several countries on different academic levels. He is an avid soccer fan.TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:02:19 - Introducing Dr Octavio Esqueda03:11 - What caused Dr Esqueda to enter educational studies03:33 - ...asked to teach a lesson in Sunday School at age 1204:04 - ...teaching middle school at age 1904:16 - ...teaching high school at age 2204:22 - ...teaching college at age 2404:30 - ...liked to teach and wanted to study more about his faith05:29 - ...started teaching at Biola University 14 years ago06:54 - Career path to being an educator is different for everyone08:05 - Edited a new book: The Hispanic Faculty Experience08:22 - ...relates to previous question about career paths08:30 - ...Christian schools are more interested in reaching out to the Hispanic students08:55 - ...conversation about Hispanic faculty members in Christian higher education09:13 - ...need more Hispanic faculty if we want more Hispanic students09:51 - Christian schools closing because lack of students10:39 - Hispanics are not a current trend10:48 - Institutions now need to reach out to minorities11:34 - Challenges that Hispanic faculty face12:12 - ...few mentors12:18 - ...learning how to navigate the system12:23 - ...mainstream culture dictates the way things are13:18 - Theological example: translating to "righteousness" vs "justice"16:37 - Bible teaching applies to everyone17:11 - The Bible focuses on the community18:21 - Collective approach to teaching the Bible20:20 - Diversity is a gift, not a threat22:24 - The church can change the world23:46 - God intended to create unity in the church in Christ25:08 - Contacting Dr Esqueda: amazon.com | x.com/OctavioEsqueda | LinkedInDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Pouring back into the next generation of missionaries, Carol’s experience is shared in her non-fiction work on Islam and missions and four novels written under the pen name of Um Daoud which tell the stories of Muslims who come to faith in Christ. Carol Ghattas' websiteCarol Ghattas' Facebook pageCarol Ghattas' booksWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Answering God's CallChallenges of and Encouragement from Muslim-focused MinistryFruit is Not Always ImmediateABOUT THE GUEST: Carol Ghattas has spent over forty years in cross-cultural service and has lived in six countries. Having served single, married, and now as a widow, Carol lives what she writes.Pouring back into the next generation of missionaries, Carol’s experience is shared in her non-fiction work on Islam and missions. She also has four novels written under the pen name of Um Daoud which tell the stories of Muslims who come to faith in Christ.A sought-after speaker on Islam, missions, and other topics, you can connect with her through her website: lifeinexile.net.TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:32 - Introducing Carol Ghattas03:42 - Carol's varied background and how she came to be where she is now04:02 - ...call to missions at a very young age04:16 - ...ministry to Laotian immigrants04:32 - ...Ivory Coast04:49 - ...call to work with Arabs04:57 - ...seminary in Ft Worth, TX and Masters of Divinity degree05:05 - met late husband, Raul in seminary05:09 - ...20 years in North Africa05:25 - ...came back to her hometown in TN and found out that a mosque was being built there05:38 - ...natural fit to trach about reaching Muslims for Christ05:51 - ...began an Arab-speaking church in town06:01 - ...also worked as the manager at the public library06:12 - ...stepped back from the church and retired from the library to focus on writing and waiting on the Lord06:56 - Writing a devotional for missionaries08:05 - Importance of member care09:44 - Specific member care for Muslim-focused ministry13:32 - Financial aspects of supporting missionaries16:32 - Major takeaways from Muslim-focused ministry20:04 - Writing fiction stories about Muslim women21:37 - Encouragement in her writing and helping those on the frontlines22:14 - Contact Carol Ghattas at lifeinexile.net23:00 - Lightening the mood...DID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr Alfonse Javed, Senior Pastor of First Baptist Metuchen, shares a Christmas message on God's Grace on Christmas (Ephesians 2:8-10).What is grace and why do we need to talk about God’s grace on Christmas? What if I told you that the Christmas story is the story of God’s grace and that most people celebrate Christmas without considering God’s grace, the first cause behind Christmas?There is no greater good than telling people what grace is, what it does, and why people need God’s grace. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:The Message of GraceThe Means of GraceThe Miracle of GraceABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Alfonse Javed, the Senior Pastor of First Baptist Church of Metuchen, has planted a church abroad, has been a missions pastor and has served as a missionary in Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan.Born in Lahore, Pakistan — the son of a pastor — Pastor Javed began serving in church at a young age. He has served as a missionary in Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan. He has also planted a church in Greece. In the 1990s, a providential relationship formed when Calvary Baptist Church started supporting his ministry efforts; he would later serve as the missions pastor of that congregation. Eventually, in 2009, he moved to New York with a new vision — mobilizing churches to engage Muslims in the NYC metro area.Dr. Javed’s advanced theological training is from the Greek Bible College, Davis College and Liberty University. He has earned three undergraduate, three graduate, and three doctoral degrees. His dissertations have explored various subjects from religious influence on the American school system to evangelism and church planting, to Islamic madrases and the treatment that Muslims students have received in the post 9/11 New York City school system. He maintains a blog, www.alfonsejaved.com, and is the author of The Muslim Next Door: A Practical Guide for Evangelism and Discipleship. Dr. Javed and his wife, Sarah, have four children.RELATED LINKS:Dr Alfonse Javed's Recent BookOur Urban Voices PodcastFirst Baptist Metuchen WebsiteFather's Love LetterEmail Dr Alfonse JavedTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:04 - What is grace and why talk about it at Christmas?01:08 - Graceful Athiest02:21 - Grace is impossible without God03:35 - It's meaningless to celebrate Christmas without God's grace04:53 - The Message of Grace05:05 - ... What is God's grace?14:38 - ... What does grace do?17:54 - ... Why do we need it?20:55 - ... Application23:08 - The Means of Grace28:17 - ... Application29:05 - The Miracle of Grace32:43 - ... Application35:47 - Action Step37:32 - AppealDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Natisha Matthews, an ordained elder and attorney, shares about the importance of estate planning for Christians, particularly in the urban community.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Cost of not planning for your estate (even if you think you don't have anything)What are wills, power of attorney, health care proxy?Mindset for estate planningABOUT THE GUEST: Rev Matthews areas of practice are Trusts and Estates and Real Estate. She is passionate about teaching believers and the urban community about Estate Planning. Currently she is one of the ordained Elders of Bethel Gospel Assembly, Inc. where the Senior Pastor is Bishop Dr. Carlton T. Brown.TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:01:35 - Passionate about estate planning dialog02:57 - Raised in an urban immigrant community03:43 - Journey to eldership and attorney07:51 - Importance of estate planning09:21 - Basics of Estate Planning: will, power of attorney, health care proxy09:27 - Wills09:35 - Power of Attorney10:22 - Health care proxy11:02 - People don't feel the need for estate planning11:25 - Not planning creates chaos, uncertainty, confusion12:10 - We do not prepare for estate planning12:19 - Estate planning is not usually known about, especially in urban communities12:40 - Mindset is important12:50 - Urban communities tend to think more about survival from paycheck to paycheck13:16 - Suburban communities more plan for the future14:14 - Both cultural and racial norms come into play17:24 - How should Christians approach estate planning?17:31 - Get understanding and knowledge about estate planning18:22 - Some culture shy away from talking about death and estate planning20:06 - How should younger people approach estate planning?20:49 - Plan for the unexpected21:16 - Get something in place - it can always be changed, if needed22:04 - Debunk the myths22:17 - Not planning is selfish because it will negatively affect loved ones23:32 - What cultural and ethnic considerations need to be considered?24:25 - How do we change people's mindset?26:23 - Opportunity to share Christ in estate planning conversations27:42 - What are the financial barriers to estate planning?28:33 - Estate planning establishes a legacy28:52 - Not planning creates more expensive procedures29:08 - Petitioning the court29:49 - Incapacitated people can't sign a power of attorney or health care proxy31:15 - Pay for a will on a payment plan32:08 - Unexpectedly used by God and He opened doors36:16 - Initial Steps to Estate Planning37:14 - How can a pastor help his congregation in this matter?38:26 - What is God saying to you using this podcast?DID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Rev Dr Duane Alexander Miller, an Anglican author, pastor, and professor, discusses interpreting the book of Revelation.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Genre of Revelation and Its ImportanceOld Testament and Revelation linkHost's & Guest's Interpretation ExampleABOUT THE GUEST: Rev Dr Duane Alexander Miller was born in Montana and grew up in Colorado and Puebla (in Mexico). He completed a BA in philosophy at the University of Texas at San Antonio (UTSA) and then an MA in theology at St Mary's University (also in San Antonio). Later, life took him to Jordan where he and his wife studied Arabic, to Israel where he helped found a seminary, and to Scotland for doctoral work, among other places.He is highly interested in the interactions of Islam, Christianity and secularism in modern contexts. His main areas of research for his PhD in divinity were religious conversion from Islam to Christianity, contextual theology, and the shari'a's treatment of apostates. He has also published research on global Anglicanism and the history of Anglican mission in the Ottoman Empire.He has had the pleasure of teaching in many places over the years: from Costa Rica to Turkey, and Kenya to Tunisia. Presently, he lives in Madrid where he is on the pastoral staff at the Anglican Cathedral of the Redeemer and associate professor at the Protestant Faculty of Theology at Madrid (UEBE).RELATED LINKS:Rev Dr Duane Alexander Miller's WebsiteAuthor PageTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:37 - Introducing Rev Dr Duane Alexander Miller02:55 - Preaching through the Book of Revelation03:29 - Dr Javed takes a literal interpretation and dispensationalist view of Revelation04:18 - What is the type of genre of literature is Revelation?04:59 - ... Apocalyptic literature05:22 - apocalyptic = unveiling - take away something that is covering something else06:00 - Four methods : preterist, historicist, idealist, futurist06:41 - Preparing messages : informational, instructional, and inspirational07:33 - Epistle to the Seven Churches07:47 - Why did the people of Israel develop this genre of literature?08:46 - Speaking in code...09:53 - So much of Revelation is taking ideas from the Old Testament and reformulating it10:35 - Analogy with a theater production11:18 - Going back behind the scenes in a world where we have limited vision of what is going on11:41 - John is getting the behind the scenes tour and telling us in symbolic language what' s going on13:31 - Importance of Old Testament and connection to Revelation13:56 - The code is in the Old Testament15:16 - Helping students understand Revelation15:20 - Who is the audience for Revelation?15:36 - Who is writing?16:32 - America-centric interpretation of Revelation?18:35 - For example, preaching on the number / mark of the beast19:09 - Dr Javed on the mark of the beast20:32 - A little dangerous to over-analyze20:46 - Rev Dr Miller on the mark of the beast20:56 - ...Revelation 13:16-1721:55 - ...Deuteronomy 6:6-9DID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Quilen Blackwell is the president and co-founder of the Chicago Eco House, whose mission is to train inner city youth in sustainable social enterprises to alleviate poverty. The Chicago Eco House’s signature program is Southside Blooms, an off-grid flower farm youth social enterprise where participants convert vacant lots into commercial flower farms using solar powered rainwater irrigation. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Why Southside Blooms is differentBuilding strong familiesBe the industry and save the economyABOUT THE GUEST: Chicago Eco House’s signature program is Southside Blooms, which creates jobs for young people on the south and west sides of Chicago. The Eco House has won several awards for its work including the UL Innovation Education Award, Delta Institute BOOST Award, the Keep Chicago Beautiful Community Vision Award, and the African American Legacy Award. Quilen is originally from Madison, WI, and moved to Chicago to attend ministry school. While in ministry school, he volunteered at a local high school in the Englewood neighborhood on Chicago's south side. This is where he first got acclimated to the realities that young people face every day in the inner city. He decided to commit his life to creating opportunities for the young people in the inner city by utilizing his skills in community organizing and renewable energy.Quilen holds a bachelor’s degree in history from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and a master’s degree in environmental policy and sustainability from the University of Denver. He worked in the biodiesel industry as a procurer of feedstock and served as a Peace Corps volunteer in Thailand prior to starting the Chicago Eco House. Quilen resides on the south side of Chicago with his wife Hannah (the other co-founder of Eco House) and their three children.RELATED LINKS:www.chicagoecohouse.orgTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:02:27 - Introducing Quilen Blackwell, president and co-founder of the Chicago Eco House02:53 - His family is his #1 ministry03:53 - Journey to Chicago & the founding the Eco House04:14 - Called by the Lord to move to Chicago04:29 - Started volunteering at a high school during ministry school04:42 - Opportunity to have relationships with families and see their needs05:03 - Choice to serve the urban black community05:12 - Mission to rebuild the economic foundation of the inner city06:09 - What is Southside Blooms and why does it work?07:00 - Southside Blooms is different because...07:05 - Startup business as a viable flower shop07:09 - Creating bottom up careers in the neighborhood07:21 - Be the industry and save the economy08:17 - Urban ministry intersects with other areas of expertise08:29 - Taking skills, expertise, and experiences and channeling them toward kingdom purpose08:41 - Not only using God's blessings to solve earthly problems, but to show heaven on earth09:08 - Combine the spiritual need with physical needs10:21 - Importance of family-focused programs10:33 - Culture of single mother families10:46 - Building block of successful family units10:58 - Flowers in weddings gives opportunities to talk about marriage11:20 - Giving a different vision of what family looks like11:29 - Quilen & Hannah's marriage is a witness to the youth12:18 - The ministry is really all about families12:45 - Initial community response to Southside Blooms12:57 - Survey the community, talk to political leaders, assess the need13:14 - The real need is homegrown industry13:31 - Pushback: why flowers and not food?13:53 - Look at the business picture14:27 - Now the results can be seen14:30 - God gave an unconventional idea14:44 - Christlike leadership and coming alongside people14:56 - Moses' example leading Israel out of Egypt15:27 - Unconventional ideas might not be favorable initially16:20 - Hardest challenges16:40 - Dangerous neighborhood16:54 - Unbelief17:52 - Fixation on the idea that things don't change18:16 - Work to change: Why can't things get better?18:36 - God can do more than you think - work in God's will19:03 - Assumption about “bad” neighborhoods you would like to debunk19:11 - Debunk that people don't care about their neighborhood19:28 - People are people and want the same things19:49 - There are a lot of hidden assets because people do want a better community19:58 - Facing calamities overshadows improvements for a better community20:12 - Opportunities for Christians to be the salt and light20:58 - A doctor is for the sick, not the healthy21:44 - Trust the Lord21:56 - Be the answer to the problems22:39 - Seeing God's hand in ministry work22:45 - God is working every day23:04 - When Southside Blooms was trying to get into the neighborhood in the early days23:31 - Getting vacant properties24:51 - Construction25:28 - Southside Blooms started in the basement and the backyard25:35 - Youth program to teach gardening25:49 - God has grown the ministry to 10 acres of farms and two flower shops26:09 - How individuals and church can promote environmental sustainability in urban areas26:18 - Counting the cost27:06 - Give your life as a seed27:40 - Start small with a community garden or a school29:05 - It's worth it!30:13 - Knowing that my life mattered30:35 - Don't think about the short-term pain; think about the long-term gainDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? 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David ministers among Muslim immigrants in a major US city.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:How Ramadan affects outreachSharing the gospel more effectivelyPractical steps in cross-culture ministryABOUT THE GUEST: David and his family serve as the Strategy Coordinator and unit on the Global Gates West African Team. Though they have a specific people group focus, the vision is reaching the ends of the Earth through global gateway cities. They have served in the West African community for 10 years globally.SCRIPTURE RELATED TO EPISODE:Jeremiah 12 : 5Matthew 6 : 33-34Matthew 13 : 1-9RELATED LINKS:Global Gates01:01 - Misconceptions to address when ministering among Muslims01:07 - Not all Muslims are terrorists01:27 - Christians can visit a mosque02:06 - Many Muslims do want to know about Jesus03:10 - What do you love and admire about the people you serve?03:13 - Value relationship over schedule03:21 - Hospitality04:44 - Ramadan05:27 - Fasting during daylight hours05:52 - Help reflect on how it feels to be poor06:02 - Focused prayer and asking for forgiveness06:16 - Ask God to show the straight path06:29 - Hajj - pilgrimage to Mecca07:28 - The Night of Power08:17 - Christian pray that God would show Jesus to Muslims08:29 - Hope that God would reveal something during Ramadan08:46 - Christians can invite Muslims to break fast08:51 - Bring water or dates to a Muslim might not have broken fast at sundown09:25 - Opportunities during Ramadan and Outreach09:51 - Focus on having gospel conversations10:45 - God has shown that so many organizations are focused on reaching on all the nations11:17 - Network of organizations working together12:22 - You may not be the one who leads someone to Christ, but you may be one of the many leading up to it14:52 - Personal story of faith and knowing that God has him17:28 - Ask God and God revealed in a dream19:45 - Family on Mission20:41 - Each member of the family does something22:56 - Go-to Bible verses for encouragement23:05 - Jeremiah 12 : 524:36 - Matthew 6 : 33-3425:02 - Matthew 13 : 1-926:31 - Sharing the gospel more effectively26:50 - Joining existing work27:14 - Find ministries addressing needs27:33 - If there is no existing work, pray, search the needs, and then start it28:20 - Practical things to do to reach out28:34 - Go to restaurants and enjoy their food29:10 - Go to places of worship and observe29:43 - Invite into your homeDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Join us as we countdown the top 5 episodes of 2024.The fifth most popular episode was #94. The Journey from "Truth" to TRUTH.Pastor Otis (O.L.) Buckley is the pastor of Highpoint Bible Church in the Bronx, NY. He shares his journey in discovering the Biblical truths that moved him from denominational theology to denominational theology.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:How to Search for AnswersBig God TheologyLetting God Be TrueABOUT THE GUEST: Pastor Otis (O.L.) Buckley is the teaching pastor of Highpoint Bible Church in The Bronx, NY. He has lived in various places in the United States and has experienced different denominational theologies. He and his wife, Consuela, have been married 15 years and both have over 20 years in business and ministry.SCRIPTURE RELATED TO EPISODE:Matthew 18 : 18Matthew 28 : 19Acts 2 : 38RELATED LINKS:Highpoint Bible ChurchEmail Pastor Buckley TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:39 - Introducing Pastor Otis (OL) Buckley03:44 - Early years in Chicago04:01 - then the move to Texas04:51 - and then to Highpoint Bible Church in the Bronx, NY07:15 - Sabellianism / Modalistic09:20 - Classic Oneness Pentecostalism10:39 - Class on Overview of Hebrew Studies11:18 - Matthew 18 : 1811:34 - Learning a different interpretation12:42 - Have I been wrong all these years?12:57 - What else could I possibly have been wrong about?13:17 - Another connected event14:28 - Matthew 28 : 1914:47 - vs Acts 2 : 3815:33 - God opens OL's eyes to the Trinity16:13 - Are people are going beyond the social issues to wrestling with theology?18:21 - Denominations, Name, Theology, & Social Media20:27 - The need for clear Biblical theology22:47 - God's workings to move OL on the journey23:04 - Every dilemma raises a question23:12 - And every question creates an opportunity to pivot23:49 - Do I really know God the way I think I do?24:37 - Lord, let your Word imposed itself on me.25:37 - Big God theology25:54 - Not compartimentalizing God28:59 - Was this a personal journey of discovery or where there others alongside you?30:52 - Every question drives one to search for an answer30:56 - ...three-fold answer30:59 - ...1. pray31:12 - ...2. search the Scriptures31:25 - ...3. right teaching31:42 - ... and stilling the voices with wrong interpretations of Scripture34:06 - Abandoning the past34:22 - Letting God be TrueDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Anita Rahma currently lives with her family in the slums of Jakarta, Indonesia. She discusses discipleship, incarnational urban ministry, and loving Muslim neighbors. Book: Downward DiscipleshipBook: Beyond Our WallsWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Definition of "slum"What downward discipleship isBuilding relationships in JakartaABOUT THE GUEST: Anita’s high school years were spent as an American TCK in the Philippines. For the past decade, Anita and her husband and two children have lived and served in a slum in Indonesia. She enjoys learning piano, playing in the rain, and devouring good books. She is the author of Beyond Our Walls: Finding Jesus in the Slums of Jakarta and Downward Discipleship: How Amy Carmichael Gave Me Courage to Serve in a Slum.RELATED LINKS:Servants Asia WebsiteEmail Anita RahmaTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:39 - Introducing Anita Rahma03:22 - Anita's choice to live in the urban slums of Jakarta03:33 - ...grew up in the US as a child of pastors in a modern Mennonite home03:49 - ...loving God could not be separated from loving those struggling with poverty03:56 - ...moved to the Philippines during high school04:06 - ...God working on her heart - her middle-class life vs the homeless around her04:27 - ... felt that Jesus was saying that He is with the homeless04:36 - ...desire to return to encounter Jesus while serving the poor04:51 - ...in college years, went to Urbana Missions Convention, Servants to Asia's Urban Poor05:10 - ...God is with the poor; we want to be too05:24 - ...over 1B people live in urban slums05:59 - Definition of "slum" and why live there07:06 - ...incarnation: live in the community in which you are serving07:21 - ...really experience the community to know their needs07:38 - ...follow Jesus to serve the poor07:58 - ...great place to learn the language and culture08:13 - What in Anita's background helped her connect with impoverished people?09:12 - ...initially, did not want to leave the Philippines and return to America09:36 - ...God taught a lot about poverty in America10:09 - ...felt God calling her back overseas12:19 - Explanation of "downward discipleship"12:30 - ...bombardment of messages to seek success12:47 - ...Jesus sets an example of downward mobility - left heaven for earth13:21 - ...taking the position of a servant13:37 - ...a disciple is someone who follows13:55 - Anita's books13:58 - ...First Book: Beyond Our Walls: Finding Jesus in the Slums of Jakarta14:04 - ...Second book: Downward Discipleship: How Amy Carmichael Gave Me Courage to Serve in a Slum14:09 - ......tying in stories of Amy Carmichael14:44 - ......the struggle of downward discipleship in the American church context14:57 - ......discipleship happen overseas in the process of learning15:05 - How to communicate the concept of downward discipleship to the local church15:27 - ...moving from the need to control to compassion15:58 - ...compassion means to suffer with17:23 - Some of the biggest challenges in impoverished urban ministry17:31 - ...physical - adjusting from comfortable middle class to slums:17:56 - ......sickness and illness18:26 - ......fires18:47 - ......floods18:50 - ......eviction19:04 - ...spiritual & emotional:19:24 - ......Jesus is the Savior, not us19:29 - Jeremiah 29 : 719:41 - ...tying our welfare to that of our neighbors20:31 - How to build relationships in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world20:45 - ...choose to live in the neighborhood20:57 - ...come as learners20:59 - ...as a single female, was "adopted" into many families21:07 - ...run a free school for the kids21:22 - ...through the school came knowing families, visiting, praying, doing Scripture studies22:57 - ...sow seeds and trust God to bring the growth24:57 - Experience as a woman and a mother helped minister to Muslim women25:05 - ...as a single woman was "adopted" into families25:45 - ...being married and becoming a mother opened doors26:01 - ...passionate about prenatal care27:02 - Advice for fellow laborers with small children27:08 - ...things get easier as the children get older27:11 - ...be gracious with yourself and your children27:28 - ...be on mission as a family27:43 - ...addressing family needs28:05 - ...self-care is important and not selfish30:00 - True poverty is a very foreign concept30:17 - ...before going to another country, learn in your own context30:25 - ...what are your walls that separate you from people?30:45 - ...wherever you're going to minister, go as a learner and encounter Jesus31:10 - ...recognize that service is a life-long and long-term31:29 - ...live lives of compassion31:56 - Join in praying for communities around the world32:23 - Getting in touch with Anita or finding her books32:33 - ...go to amazon.com or servantsasia.org or email [email protected] YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr. Ryan Martin discusses the importance caring for our missionaries well and how to engage the local church.  Book: Holding the RopeBlog: The Upstream Collective - Cultivating Missions AwarenessWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:When does missionary care startPractical ways the local church can care for their missionariesHow pastors can help their congregation be aware of the missionaries' needsABOUT THE GUEST: Ryan serves as Director of Missions and Operations with Lightbearers Ministries. He graduated in 2022 with a Doctor of Ministry from Southeastern Baptist Theological seminary, where he also serves as a trustee. He has received a MDiv in Missions, Evangelism and Church Growth from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (2008), and an undergraduate degree (2005) from Union University in Jackson, TN. Prior to joining Lightbearers, he served for thirteen years as a missions pastor in the local church. Ryan lives in Fayetteville with his wife, Rebekah, and three children: Hudson, Annie, and Hattie.RELATED LINKS:Website: Lightbearers.comTwitter: Ryan Allen MartinEmail: Ryan MartinTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:02:02 - Introducing Dr Ryan Martin02:58 - Motivation for writing a book on missionary care04:07 - ...addressing needs of missionary families04:34 - ...giving and not being poured back into and filled up04:41 - ..almost reaching the point of burnout05:16 - How do we care for them?05:59 - ...the local church sensed that more tools were needed to care for missionaries well09:06 - Book - Holding the Rope : How the Local Church Can Care for Its Sent Ones09:10 - ...Metaphor for the title, "Holding the Rope"09:21 - ...William Carey sermon10:28 - Importance of caring for missionaries11:12 - ...commissioning a missionary is the starting point, not the finish line11:44 - When does missionary care start?12:02 - ...getting to know the missionary as he is being trained and developed12:26 - ...understand where the pressure points might be12:55 - ...debrief points when the missionary returns13:16 - ...areas of struggle will be exposed in the field13:51 - What are practical ways that a church can care for their missionaries?14:09 - ...evaluate missionaries' readiness14:16 - ......The Upstream Collective has resources14:39 - ...pre-field stage15:07 - ...on the field care16:04 - ...returning from the field16:26 - How can pastors help their congregation be aware of their missionaries' needs?16:32 - ...get to know the missionaries17:12 - ...look for ways to bring the missionaries before the congregation17:58 - ...visit missionaries in the field19:13 - How do we care for missionaries' kids?20:44 - ...show the children their role and how they can help21:03 - ...dealing with different ages21:37 - ...children and teen ministries to pray for missionary kids21:46 - ...send families with children to visit them in the field22:24 - ...dealing with abuse and crisis situations23:33 - ...issues are worldwide, not just isolated to the West24:50 - ...missionary kids have the added pressure of the local kids27:58 - Look to strengthen care for missionaries29:17 - More resources from Dr Ryan Martin...29:18 - ...book (Amazon) : Holding the Rope29:21 - ...theupstreamcollective.org29:34 - ...The Center for Great Commission Studies29:37 - ...Other podcastsDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr. Ryan Martin discusses the importance of missional awareness in the local church, particularly through local international ministry.  Book: Holding the RopeBlog: The Upstream Collective - Cultivating Missions AwarenessWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:What missional awareness isThree practical suggestions for engaging the local international communityWhat missional discipleship looks likeABOUT THE GUEST: Ryan serves as Director of Missions and Operations with Lightbearers Ministries. He graduated in 2022 with a Doctor of Ministry from Southeastern Baptist Theological seminary, where he also serves as a trustee. He has received a MDiv in Missions, Evangelism and Church Growth from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (2008), and an undergraduate degree (2005) from Union University in Jackson, TN. Prior to joining Lightbearers, he served for thirteen years as a missions pastor in the local church. Ryan lives in Fayetteville with his wife, Rebekah, and three children: Hudson, Annie, and Hattie.SCRIPTURE RELATED TO EPISODE:John 20 : 21Acts 17 : 26RELATED LINKS:Website: Lightbearers.comTwitter: Ryan Allen MartinEmail: Ryan MartinTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:09 - Introducing Ryan Martin03:26 - What is missional awareness?03:40 - ...The unreached are now within arm's reach04:14 - ...John 20 - 21 - sent by Jesus to be ambassadors into the world04:32 - ...The nations are here within our reach05:01 - ...The Great Commission is not just for the paid professionals05:22 - ...Make disciples and be disciples who make disciples05:29 - How does missional awareness tie into our growing international community?05:59 - ...Acts 17 - 26 - God has determined our dwelling places06:12 - ...God has brought the nations to us and to recognize that we need to live that theology06:50 - ...Recognize the need to take the gospel to our local people groups09:47 - Planting seven churches over the next ten years10:22 - ...First, Hispanic church plant and Second, South Asian10:27 - ...Next, Hmong and South East Asian population10:47 - ...and global partners to train and sent out11:15 - ...Resourced by local church budget11:42 - Practical Suggestions for engaging with the local international community12:15 - ...Local church being missionally aware12:34 - ...Visit world religion sites and learn about other religions14:08 - ......Look for avenues to gospel conversations14:14 - ......Read up on basics before visiting15:05 - ...Frequenting ethnic establishments15:17 - .....Food is a great way to break down barriers16:20 - ...International students16:54 - ......80% of international students will never be invited to an American home19:21 - How does Lightbearers minister to students?20:15 - ...Discipleship and missions20:58 - ...72-unit complex houses students21:55 - ...Life on life discipleship among students22:03 - ...Match student with a local church mentor22:26 - ...Fund mission projects to international church plant project22:48 - ...Short term missions trips23:54 - ...Dreaming of an East Coast presence25:56 - Why is discipleship important for preparing for missions?26:05 - ...At the heart of the Great Commission is discipleship and gathering into the local church26:50 - What does missional discipleship look like?27:03 - ...Corporate worship gathering27:19 - ...Meeting in homes27:27 - ...One-on-one and small groups27:45 - ...Missional expressions in our lives28:03 - ...Count the cost and take the gospel to the ends of the earth31:37 - How does a church send AND go?31:49 - ...We are all sent ones32:03 - ...Protect the word, "missionary"32:39 - ...We are all called to be on mission32:50 - ...Opportunities to the cast the vision for missions32:57 - ...Keep missions and missionaries in the minds of the church33:41 - ...Each one of us are missionaries and are sent as well34:31 - Ask ourselves how to build in missional awareness34:48 - ...Pray for unreached people groups35:19 - ...Read missionary biographies35:41 - ..Look for opportunities to serve together on mission36:03 - ...Take family on missions trip37:01 - Contacting Ryan Martin...37:07 - ...email [email protected]:13 - ...twitter and instagram RyanAllenMartin37:18 - ...blog theupstreamcollective.org37:39 - ...book (Amazon): Holding the RopeDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr. Mark Glanville discusses how churches can love the stranger because Yahweh loves the stranger so you are to love the stranger.Book: Improvising Church: Scripture as the Source of Harmony, Rhythm, and SoulBook: Refuge Reimagined: Biblical Kinship in Global PoliticsWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Yahweh loves the stranger so you are to love the strangerChallenging the fear-based ethic approaches to refugeesBanal, Sterile Life vs A Rich FeastABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Mark Glanville trains pastors at Regent College, Vancouver, and is an Old Testament scholar.Prior to coming to Regent, Mark pastored for 14 years in both Vancouver and Australia in urban, justice seeking churches. Mark has been bi-vocational– combining reflective pastoring with biblical scholarship and is a trained jazz pianist, active on the Vancouver jazz scene.SCRIPTURE RELATED TO EPISODE:Deuteronomy 10 : 18-19 - Love the strangerRELATED LINKS:Dr. Mark Glanville's websiteTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:02:02 - Refuge Reimagined: Biblical Kinship in Global Politics02:46 - Christians need to be different03:12 - Book looks deeply into the questions and pushback of welcoming refugees04:15 - Deuteronomy 10 : 18-19 Biblical scholarship on love the stranger04:40 - Yahweh loves the stranger so you are to love the stranger05:17 - Welcoming a stranger is very common in Old Testament ethics06:10 - Mirroring the love and character of God06:16 - Hebrew word for love = steadfast covenant loyalty07:53 - Challenging the fear-based ethic approaches to refugees08:16 - ...Preaching the scriptures very clearly08:35 - ......not prooftexting, but displaying the gospel in our local neighborhood09:07 - ......recovering every aspect of what it means to flourish09:33 - ......the whole biblical story and playing our part faithfully09:45 - ......choosing love & tenderness09:58 - ...Proximity10:02 - ......having real life experience with people who have a refugee story10:20 - ......dispelling false fears10:45 - ......not just the resilience, but the brilliance, of regufees11:28 - .....live life in diversity and sharing lives11:50 - ......partner with Christian refugee-welcoming organization13:20 - Engaging the community in New York over food14:25 - Banal, Sterile Life vs A Rich Feast16:02 - ...as contrasted in a musical example of "Jesus Loves Me"18:30 - the body of Christ exercising all their gifts19:36 - Amazing Grace21:46 - To get in touch with Dr. Glanville: glanville.org22:33 - This is the Day the Lord Has MadeDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr. Mark Glanville discusses how churches can adapt to and impact their own neighborhoods in a post-Christian world.Book: Improvising Church: Scripture as the Source of Harmony, Rhythm, and SoulBook: Refuge Reimagined: Biblical Kinship in Global PoliticsWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Christian vs Post-Christian CultureFour Key Questions of ScriptureBeauty is a Glimpse of GodABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Mark Glanville trains pastors at Regent College, Vancouver, and is an Old Testament scholar.Prior to coming to Regent, Mark pastored for 14 years in both Vancouver and Australia in urban, justice seeking churches. Mark has been bi-vocational-- combining reflective pastoring with biblical scholarship and is a trained jazz pianist, active on the Vancouver jazz scene.RELATED LINKS:Dr. Mark Glanville at Regent CollegeTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Dr. Mark Glanville03:19 - Mark's background and his approach to doing church03:30 - 4-note chord: pastoring, scholarship, teaching, jazz music04:13 - Exited seminary to a government housing area in western Sydney, Australia04:33 - High crime, high poverty, high community05:12 - Then to Vancouver, very post-Christian city06:31 - Impoverished cities06:50 - Impoverished, underprivileged areas are higher in community07:31 - See Christ in the faces of those who are marginalized07:45 - Deuteronomy 24 - God hears the prayers of the marginalized people09:12 - Definition of a Christian culture09:52 - Definition of post-Christian culture10:30 - Should the church fight post-Christian culture or go deep into our identity as Christians and mirror Christ?11:02 - We are authorized to embody Christ's tenderness and love11:37 - Book: Improvising Church: Scripture as the Source of Harmony, Rhythm, and Soul12:15 - Be aware of the things we do as a church that are culturally Christian and discerning what is the Spirit forming us to do12:57 - How can we be a church that is genuinely local?13:31 - Beauty is a part of witnessing Christ14:29 - Phrase: Incarnational communities14:55 - Church: a people that is receiving and extending the healing of Jesus15:23 - Incarnational Communities as a Sentence: An incarnational community is full of the Spirit, shaped by Scripture, and seeking to embody the love of Jesus and receive and display it in a particular neighborhood.15:47 - Incarnational Communities as an Image: Incarnational church seen as blues musicians18:17 - Unpacking four key questions of Scripture...18:55 - ...Biblical story19:14 - ...gospel19:53 - ...witness20:21 - ...Biblical ethics20:57 - The need for churches to truly belong to their neighborhoods21:14 - Scripture is related to place22:02 - Reconceive "witness" as loving a place in the name of Jesus22:50 - ...photos of loved places in the neighborhood24:49 - ...prayer for revival30:11 - Churches should give their attention to beauty, aesthetics, and the arts31:01 - Beauty is a glimpse of God31:57 - Give attention to the artists in the church32:46 - We need to be artists and be creative in all we doDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr. Darren Hercyk discusses the local church developing a heart for mercy ministries.Dr. Hercyk is an Assistant Professor at Liberty University School of Divinity and the program director for the online Masters in Humanitarian Action and Human RightWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:The balance between social gospel and evangelismMinistering to the community in which you are placedBroadening the impact of the churchABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Darren Hercyk is an Assistant Professor at Liberty University School of Divinity and the program director for the online Masters in Humanitarian Action and Human Rights. Prior to serving in higher education, he had 18 years of international cross-cultural experience living in 10 countries. While overseas, the service spanned from child evangelism to responding to emergencies to long-term development programs. Through all these countries and experiences, a priority was placed on partnering with the local church.RELATED LINKS:Liberty University - M.A. in Humanitarian Action & Human Rights – Law and PolicyLiberty University - M.A. in Humanitarian and Human Rights – Disaster ReliefLiberty University - M.A. in Humanitarian Action & Human Rights – Woman and Child AdvocacyEmail Dr. HercykTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:Spreadsheet to create time stamped show notes01:53 - Majority World Church's view on humanitarian training01:59 - Realms of society: private sector, civil society, public sector02:26 - Majority World Church tends to be the largest provider of education, healthcare...02:47 - ...out of the absence of these services03:07 - ...not a lot of assets, but involved in people's daily lives03:39 - ...church leaders have enormous moral authority03:58 - As a developed society, we don't have that role-- we just evangelize04:20 - ...sometimes we miss the balance between social gospel and evangelism04:51 - ...5 times where Jesus took care of a physical need but didn't share a truth05:00 - ...58 times where Jesus shared a truth but didn't take care of a physical need05:05 - ...99 times when Jesus did both05:26 - Generation Z is one of the most cause-oriented generations...05:35 - ... be mindful to engage them06:56 - Ministering to the community in which you are placed07:40 - ...understanding their "Jerusalem"07:49 - ...know my neighbor before I love my neighbor08:02 - Broadening the impact of the church08:09 - Faith Integration - connect heart and hands08:34 - ...be involved - help, know people, bring the gospel08:59 - ...look for ways to bring the youth09:10 - ...build a bridge to people to whom you wouldn't normal engage09:27 - A frightening question --09:29 - ...Would anybody even know if your church ceased to exist?09:56 - Mercy ministries in your own community11:06 - ...getting it to the church level about being New Testament believers11:43 - Preparing for missions trips through prior local engagement12:22 - ...learn skills, but we should be connecting with people anyway13:15 - ..this is not just about missions, but about loving people where God has placed you13:33 - ...developed training as a masters program at Liberty University14:29 - Dr. Hercyk's upcoming book15:39 - Getting in touch with Dr. Hercyk by email: [email protected] YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Dr. Darren Hercyk discusses the importance of humanitarian training for missionaries and the heart for mercy ministries.Dr. Hercyk is an Assistant Professor at Liberty University School of Divinity and the program director for the online Masters in Humanitarian Action and Human RightWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:What is humanitarian work?Evangelism includes some type of humanitarian workDeveloping the heart attitude for those in needABOUT THE GUEST: Dr. Darren Hercyk is an Assistant Professor at Liberty University School of Divinity and the program director for the online Masters in Humanitarian Action and Human Rights. Prior to serving in higher education, he had 18 years of international cross-cultural experience living in 10 countries. While overseas, the service spanned from child evangelism to responding to emergencies to long-term development programs. Through all these countries and experiences, a priority was placed on partnering with the local church.RELATED LINKS:Liberty University - M.A. in Humanitarian Action & Human Rights – Law and PolicyLiberty University - M.A. in Humanitarian and Human Rights – Disaster ReliefLiberty University - M.A. in Humanitarian Action & Human Rights – Woman and Child AdvocacyEmail Dr. HercykTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:00:38 - Introducing Dr Darren Hercyk03:06 - Work in Pakistan03:31 - 1998: overseas as an engineer03:45 - ...began working with a local church03:55 - ...transition to humanitarian work03:58 - ...to nine more countries04:43 - Program Director for Online Masters in Humanitarian Action & Human Rights at Liberty University04:56 - ...started in 202205:08 - ...increase in emergencies05:16 - Leaders needed around the world with Biblical foundations and skills05:56 - ...work with the global church06:13 - ...Cross-cutting program - in School of Divinity, but with courses from government, law, behavior sciences06:41 - Evangelism includes some type of humanitarian work06:53 - ...take care of people's physical, social, emotional, and spiritual needs07:19 - What is humanitarian work?07:41 - ...mercy ministries07:59 - ...emergency response08:23 - ...refugee crisis08:31 - ...human rights & trafficking08:59 - ...food aid09:05 - living on the streets09:28 - Prepare the heart for mercy ministries, for the needs around you09:52 - How do you get from the book to the heart?10:04 - ...develop the skills in your local community11:02 - ...connecting the head, heart, and hands11:30 - ...learn the skills to engage someone, hear their story, learn why God loves them so much11:53 - ...sometimes, God works from the hands, to the heart, to the head12:06 - ...realize your commonality with that person12:18 - ...everyone is created in God's image12:21 - ...read Scripture in an entirely new way12:40 - ...start where you are14:11 - Humanitarian training is crucial for missionaries14:15 - ...show the overseas country that you have these skills to get a visa14:25 - ...understand the breadth of the opportunities in humanitarian work14:34 - Old Testament: God's provision and protection: one is charity, but the rest is doing life with people in need15:32 - ...there's more opportunities to serve than just charity15:48 - ...our lives intersect with people in need16:47 - Our job is not to become more efficient at delivering goods, but to have our heart and lives intersect with people in need17:11 - Mercy ministries often involve going to places you do not normally go and engaging people you do not normally engage17:51 - What's our heart attitude to those in need and those around us?18:14 - The one thing common to all stories was the need for relationship (social isolation)18:55 - Foundation of God's work19:04 - ...How did Paul build a bridge to people?19:27 - ...we are created in God's image19:39 - ...affirm people's God-given dignity19:44 - ...ask open-ended questions19:46 - ...use people's names19:53 - ...are you there to fix them or are you there because you are interested in their lives?20:37 - ...listen to people's stories20:59 - ...bridge to gospel conversations24:41 - ...when we hear people's stories, it's a gift exchange25:24 - Trauma counseling25:38 - ...first responder training25:45 - Proposal development26:02 - Funding, monitoring, evaluation, reporting, and progress26:22 - Calculating physical needs in trauma situations27:11 - Capstone course27:21 - How to network29:00 - Dr Hercyk's upcoming book30:04 - Dr Hercyk's Email Address: [email protected] YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Pastor Drew Hyun, HOPE Church NYC, shares the unique challenges of leading and pastoring in urban settings as well as the importance of emotionally healthy leaders.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:What is Emotionally Healthy Discipleship?New City Network (of Churches) Five ValuesUnique needs and challenges faced by urban ministersABOUT THE GUEST: Drew Hyun is the Founder and Pastor of Hope Church NYC, a family of diverse churches in and around NYC. Drew is also the Co-Founder of the New City Network, a network of urban churches that value multi-ethnicity, Spirit-filled ministry, emotional health, and mission. Drew is also part of the Emotionally Healthy Discipleship team, a movement that is dedicated to transforming church culture through the multiplication of deeply changed leaders and disciples. Drew loves cities, ESPN, and naps, and finds it a restful Sabbath when all three come together. He resides in New York City with his wife Christina and their son David and daughter Avery.RELATED LINKS:HOPE Church WebsiteNew City Network WebsiteEmotionally Healthy Discipleship WebsiteThe Hub WebsiteDrew Hyun on TwitterTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:02:24 - Introducing Pastor Drew Hyun04:01 - Founder of Hope Church NYC and Co-Founder of New City Network04:41 - Psalm 33:1805:18 - defined as a people who deeply hoped in God's unfailing love05:42 - 2012 - dream to start a movement of churches in NYC - Hope Church NYC06:39 - 2016 - New City Network06:54 - Recovery House of Worship (Next Step Community Church)07:11 - New Life Fellowship07:14 - New City Network of Churches around five values...07:26 - ...urban ministry07:32 - ...emotional health07:34 - ...Spirit-filled ministry07:42 - ...multi-ethnic ministry07:48 - ...mission08:04 - Church-planting - support for ~40 churches with $2M08:51 - What is Pastor Hyun's journey to urban ministry?09:24 - Grew up in Los Angeles, but very unlike New York09:31 - College at University of California at Berkeley09:40 - 2000: Three options following university11:02 - NYC has a different vibe11:48 - 2001: Internship at New Life Fellowship13:23 - Love the people and the diversity of people14:41 - What are the unique needs and challenges faced by urban ministers?14:59 - Very practical challenges...15:14 - ...exorbitant cost15:27 - ...extra time that things take to do15:34 - ...leads to feeling weightier and a heaviness15:43 - ...the soil does not seem quit as open15:50 - ...tons of people, but they are harder to reach because they have such little time in margin16:05 - ...staying emotionally and spiritually vibrant is exceptionally difficult16:26 - ...practical needs end up putting on more stress, fear, loneliness, anxiety16:43 - Unless one is super-intentional about remaining emotionally and spiritually whole17:14 - Deeply passionate about emotionally healthy discipleship17:41 - Approach with a missionary mindset - it's cross-cultural experience17:59 - What is emotional health and why is it important?18:32 - The goal is not just planting churches...18:42 - ...vibrant and full of health18:45 - ...integrity that mimic Sermon on the Mount18:55 - Emotionally healthy discipleship culture19:41 - What are we multiplying?20:19 - Role of New City Network20:38 - Emotionally Healthy Discipleship is in process of building a network21:41 - Involvement in Emotionally Healthy Discipleship22:29 - Seeing unhealthy churches in the past23:09 - Seeing Christianity in the church vs what Jesus taught23:29 - Seeing the same thing happening in his own life24:22 - How does the gospel speak into our lives and experiences?24:51 - What it means to follow Jesus?25:46 - We are unaware of our blind spots and our power25:55 - Grow continually26:02 - Make amends with our sinfulness26:08 - Desire to live with as much integrity as possible26:31 - Ask God for transformation26:49 - Deep father wounds transcend cultures30:34 - Discipleship Model: what's caught and what's taught...30:57 - ...taught...31:10 - ...Emotionally Healthy Discipleship...31:20 - ... Course 1. Emotionally Healthy Spirituality31:24 - ... Course 2. Emotionally Healthy Relationships31:36 - Introduce people on what it means to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind31:41 - and to love others as your love yourself31:46 - ...caught...31:49 - Modeling incarnational listening while working through a conflict31:58 - Building a culture32:20 - Who can participate in the program?32:57 - How would a ministry leader start this discipleship program?33:05 - EmotionallyHealthy.org - for assessments, tools, introduction to courses33:19 - Hope Church begins The Hub in Midtown NYC33:59 - Communal space for use by church plants, missions agencies, and non-profits at an affordable cost34:50 - Last year, 78 organizations used this space36:51 - Getting in touch with Pastor Drew Hyun - @drewhyun on Instagram and TwitterDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com

Rev Dr Duane Alexander Miller, an Anglican author, pastor, and professor, discusses interpreting the book of Revelation.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:Purpose of the book RevelationDiscussing Revelation with Muslim background peopleFocus on "Who is Jesus?"ABOUT THE GUEST: Rev Dr Duane Alexander Miller was born in Montana and grew up in Colorado and Puebla (in Mexico). He completed a BA in philosophy at the University of Texas at San Antonio (UTSA) and then an MA in theology at St Mary's University (also in San Antonio). Later, life took him to Jordan where he and his wife studied Arabic, to Israel where he helped found a seminary, and to Scotland for doctoral work, among other places.He is highly interested in the interactions of Islam, Christianity and secularism in modern contexts. His main areas of research for his PhD in divinity were religious conversion from Islam to Christianity, contextual theology, and the shari'a's treatment of apostates. He has also published research on global Anglicanism and the history of Anglican mission in the Ottoman Empire.He has had the pleasure of teaching in many places over the years: from Costa Rica to Turkey, and Kenya to Tunisia. Presently, he lives in Madrid where he is on the pastoral staff at the Anglican Cathedral of the Redeemer and associate professor at the Protestant Faculty of Theology at Madrid (UEBE).RELATED LINKS:Rev Dr Duane Alexander Miller's WebsiteAuthor PageTIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:Spreadsheet to create time stamped show notes01:43 - How did John's audience relate to the book of Revelation?01:53 - Apocalyptic literature - multiple fulfillment: immediate and later02:32 - Bible : implication in every generation and church age03:24 - Revelation is not only for that final generation03:41 - Multiple fulfillment examples: ...unto us a child is given, onto us, a child is born04:04 - ...from Egypt, I have called my son04:36 - ...woman in Revelation 1204:58 - Responsibility of each person to ask: why am I given this text in this day and age?05:28 - When we miss the big picture, we miss what God has given us in Revelation05:39 - Knowing the end of the book should take away our anxiety05:50 - Struggle: how to help people know Revelation but also act on it to reach the lost06:37 - How do Muslim background believers (MBBs) approach Revelation?06:44 - ...one Muslim Background believers' experience07:12 - Even the devil is God's devil07:23 - fascinated by Revelation07:27 - Muslims have a very detailed eschatology07:53 - which includes the return of Jesus08:09 - Have not personally found that MBBs are that concerned with the end times and the return of Christ08:33 - The main issue of MBBs is identity and relating to family and others08:42 - Every tribe and language and people and nation...10:59 - Revelation shows us the fulfillment of the Abrahamic Covenant11:13 - The text from Revelation to discuss with a MBB11:39 - Who is this guy that John is describing?12:00 - Visions of Jesus13:11 - Revelation 19-21 - City of God coming down - the division between heaven and earth is erased14:23 - And no division in Eden, either14:38 - Our vision is corrupted by sin15:04 - Revelation will be clear when Jesus returns15:43 - Grand Finale - restoration16:28 - Acts 3 : 21 apokatastasis18:42 - Focus on gospel kingdom and evangelism18:58 - Israel in the end times19:59 - Israel is the people of God20:16 - Main symbols of Israel in the Old Testament21:01 - Let everyone who thirsts come21:12 - Don't miss the boat22:47 - Contacting Rev Dr Duane Alexander Miller22:53 - blog : duanemiller.wordpress.com23:04 - Amazon : Duane Alexander Miller23:16 - Youtube : @drduanemillerDID YOU APPRECIATE THIS PODCAST? Checkout previous episodes, leave a review, drop us a note or support the mission here: oururbanvoices.com