Pay Attention

In this episode of Pay Attention with Holly McNeill, Holly is joined by mindfulness teacher Christoph Spiessens and CBT therapist Liezl Laidlaw to explore a powerful truth: mindfulness is not one-size-fits-all. Together, they unpack why traditional approaches can unintentionally exclude many people—especially those who are neurodivergent—and how we can begin to approach mindfulness with more flexibility, curiosity, and self-trust. From movement-based practices to rethinking the breath as an anchor, this conversation opens the door to a more inclusive, compassionate way of paying attention. One that gives you permission to find what actually works for you. If you've ever felt like you were "failing" at mindfulness, this episode will change how you see the practice—and yourself.

What does it truly mean to live a practice? In this deeply grounded and reflective episode of Pay Attention, Holly reconnects with meditation teacher Mark Nunberg of Common Ground Meditation Center in Minneapolis —a place that played a meaningful role in her own journey. Together, they explore the unfolding path of contemplative practice—not as a concept, but as a way of living. Mark shares how his early questioning of success and purpose led him to Buddhism and insight meditation, and how over three decades of teaching have revealed a simple but profound truth: clarity doesn't come from thinking more—it comes from seeing clearly. In this conversation, you'll discover: What it really means to live a practice—not just do one How awareness matures through small, consistent inroads Why suffering (dukkha) can be a doorway rather than a problem How thoughts lose their power when they are seen clearly The shift from identifying with the mind to observing it What liberation actually points to—and how it's available in everyday life Mark reminds us that the goal isn't to eliminate thoughts, but to change our relationship to them—and that real transformation happens not through force, but through awareness. If you've ever felt lost, overwhelmed by your thoughts, or curious about what lies beyond the "chaos of the mind," this conversation offers a grounded and accessible path forward.

Did you know 22 veterans take their lives every day in the U.S.? In this powerful and deeply personal episode of Pay Attention, Holly sits down with Maria Gonzalez to explore the hidden toll of trauma on veterans and their families. Maria shares her family's journey through years of chronic pain, emotional volatility, and the invisible weight of unresolved trauma that so often goes unseen. What began as physical suffering gradually revealed something much deeper—wounds that traditional treatments were not reaching. Maria speaks candidly about her husband Gabe's struggle as a disabled veteran, the terrifying moment when their family reached a breaking point, and the desperate search for help that led them to an unconventional path: psychedelic-assisted healing outside the United States. What followed was not a magic fix, but a profound shift—one that opened the door to healing, new patterns, renewed connection, and a restored desire to live. Together, Holly and Maria talk about PTSD, depression, chronic pain, caregiver trauma, and the complicated reality of loving someone who is suffering in ways you cannot fully see. They also explore the importance of preparation and integration, and why healing does not just affect the individual, but the entire family system. This episode is both heartbreaking and hopeful. It is a conversation about invisible wounds, the limits of conventional care for some people, and the possibility of transformation when the right kind of support finally reaches the root of the pain. Maria also shares how she and Gabe are now turning their experience into service through Operation Solace, helping other veterans access life-saving retreats and reminding families that they are not alone. If you have ever loved someone who was silently struggling, or if you yourself know what it feels like to search for relief and find none, this episode offers something essential: honesty, compassion, and hope.

What if recurring dreams held the key to understanding who we truly are—and what we're here to do? In this follow-up to their first conversation on dream tending, host Holly McNeill invites dream tender and therapist Valerie Johns back for a raw and revealing live dream tending session. If you've ever wondered who Holly really is beyond the mic, this is the episode. It's raw, unpolished, and deeply personal—and through the process, Holly learns more than she expected. Together, Holly and Valerie explore: ·       How live dream tending can reveal hidden wisdom within recurring dreams ·       Why dreams often uncover unresolved identity, self-worth, and the longing for mentorship ·       How the ego loses control in the dream state—and why that matters for personal growth ·       How some dreams come from the collective unconscious, calling us to healing and action in the world This isn't just a conversation—it's a vulnerable, transformative experience that invites listeners to tend their own inner landscapes with curiosity and care. ✨ Haven't listened to Part 1 yet? Go back and start there for Valerie's full introduction and insights into dream tending. Connect with Valerie Johns: 🌐 valeriejohns.com📷 Ihttps://www.instagram.com/valeriejohnsla/ 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerie-johns-66155216/

To stay in the world of dreams just a bit longer, this week on Pay Attention we're going back to the archives to revisit an earlier conversation on dream tending with Valerie Johns. What if your dreams weren't random at all, but meaningful messages from the deepest parts of you? This episode originally aired in Season 1 as Episode 24. Unlike traditional dream interpretation, Valerie's approach to dream tending encourages us to form a relationship with our dreams—to listen, explore, and allow the subconscious to speak. In this conversation, Holly McNeill sits down with Valerie to explore how dreams can support emotional healing, personal clarity, and spiritual growth. Together they discuss: • Why we forget our dreams—and how to start remembering them • Why recurring dreams and nightmares may actually be calls for attention • How the ego has no control in the dream world—and doesn't like it • How some dreams may arise from the collective unconscious, pointing us toward healing and action in the world ✨ Part 2 of this conversation will re-air next week with Holly and Valerie joining live. If you're curious and don't want to wait, you can find it now in the archives as Season 1, Episode 25, where Valerie leads Holly through a live dream tending session. Connect with Valerie Johns: 🌐 valeriejohns.com 📷 / valeriejohnsla 🔗 / valerie-johns-66155216

What happens when awareness awakens inside a dream? In this episode of Pay Attention, Holly McNeill continues her exploration of consciousness — not just in the waking world, but in the landscapes we enter each night. She sits down with Robert Waggoner, one of the world's most respected lucid dreaming educators and former president of the International Association for the Study of Dreams, to explore what lucid dreams reveal about the deeper architecture of the mind. Lucid dreaming is more than flying or controlling dream scenes. It is the moment we recognize, within the dream itself, that we are aware. And from that awareness, something extraordinary happens: belief shapes experience instantly. Together, Holly and Robert explore: What lucid dreaming truly is — and why it has been scientifically validated How belief and expectation shape both dream reality and waking life The role of attention and emotional stability in sustaining lucidity The mysterious "inner awareness" that can respond from beyond the thinking mind How lucid dreaming can support healing, insight, and creative expansion What it means to practice "lucid living" beyond the dream state If much of what we call identity operates below conscious awareness, the dream state may offer a rare and direct encounter with the forces shaping our lives. As Holly often reminds her listeners: when we understand how the mind works, we begin to see where we have agency. Tonight, as you drift to sleep, you might ask yourself — what would happen if you knew you were dreaming? 

Following last week's open and expansive conversation, this episode turns gently toward something powerful: choice. Holly sits down with psychotherapist and poet Robby Cale for a reflective conversation that begins with his spoken-word piece, "Dear Universe," and unfolds into an exploration of the stories we inherit — from our upbringing, our environment, and the identities handed to us before we ever knew we had a say. Together, they explore perception and perspective, inherited belief systems, nervous system awareness, and the quiet but profound shift from living on autopilot to living with intention. Because while we may not choose the story we're given, we always have agency in how we continue it. The episode closes with a live poetic reflection — a reminder that becoming the light is always an option.

Is it a mental health crisis, or is it a spiritual awakening? In this live episode of the Pay Attention Podcast, host Holly McNeill is joined by guest host Cheyenne Moore and Dr. Margaret Arnd-Caddigan to explore the intersection of spiritual awakening and mental health. We tackle the terrifying question many ask during a Kundalini awakening or deep spiritual journey: "Am I going crazy?" Cheyenne shares her first-hand account of a Kundalini energy unraveling, heart expansion, and the terrifying beauty of surrender. Dr. Margaret brings decades of psychology experience to explain how mystical experiences differ from psychosis and offers clinical discernment. Together, they examine where spiritual awakening and mental health intersect and how to navigate it wisely. If you have ever felt your world crack open and questioned your sanity, this conversation offers steady ground. You are not broken. You may be expanding. In this video, we discuss signs of spiritual awakening, the difference between mental health struggles and spiritual emergence, and how to find grounding when the soul speaks. #spiritualawakening #kundalini #mentalhealth #psychology #payattentionpodcast #healingjourney #consciousness

In this episode of Pay Attention, Holly sits down with Clare Johnson, PhD, one of the world's leading voices in lucid dreaming, for a deep conversation about the dream world. Discover how conscious dreaming can be a powerful gateway to healing, insight, and awareness. Key Topics Discussed in This Video: Healing Through Dreams: How the dream world serves as a powerful space for emotional healing and self-discovery.  Overcoming Trauma: Dr. Clare shares how lucid dreaming helps resolve nightmares, grief, anxiety, and long-held emotional patterns. Conscious Engagement: Learning to work with the subconscious mind rather than trying to control it forcefully. The Science of Sleep: A deep dive into REM sleep, hypnagogic states, and why awareness persists even in deep rest. Fear & Intention: Understanding how dreams respond to our fears and how to set positive intentions. Personal Journey: Holly reflects on her own experiences with altered states of awareness and their role in personal growth. Bridge to Awareness: Viewing sleep not as an unconscious void, but as a bridge between science and lived experience. This conversation invites you to see your sleep as a living, intelligent landscape that guides you toward a deeper understanding of yourself.

Last week, we explored what research is revealing about the mind–body connection—and how science is beginning to build a bridge toward contemplative practice and lived experience. This week, we step into the experience itself. In this episode, Holly is joined by Marc Noël, a Belgium-based artist, therapist, and creator of Quantum Paintings, whose work sits at the intersection of energy, consciousness, and art. Marc's paintings may be analyzed or interpreted—but ultimately, they are meant to be felt. Created through intentional presence and infused with chi, his work invites a direct, embodied experience of awareness that many describe as grounding, calming, and deeply familiar. Working intuitively with energy and intention, Marc draws from an early understanding of presence and awareness that has been familiar to him since childhood. Also returning to the conversation is Ann Van de Winckel, PhD, founder and Director of the Brain–Body–Mind Lab at the University of Minnesota. If you listened to last week's episode, you know that Ann is conducting research in NeuroArts and body awareness that draws directly from Marc Noël's quantum paintings—helping bridge lived experience with emerging scientific inquiry. Together, they explore how art can act as a doorway into felt experience—supporting regulation, restoring connection to the body, and offering access to states of clarity that are often difficult to reach through cognition alone. Through Marc's creative work and Ann's research, embodied experience and scientific inquiry meet, inviting the analytical mind to soften as awareness is seen, felt, and experienced directly. This conversation moves beyond explanation and into experience. It invites listeners to consider how awareness can be felt, how healing can emerge through presence, and how art may help make the invisible visible—within the body, the mind, and the human experience itself. Learn more about Marc at his websites: WEBSITES  https://mapeinturequantique-fushigina.com https://fushiginachoowa-marcnoel.com https://myquantumpaintings-marcnoel.com   Reach him at his email:   EMAIL [email protected]   Subscribe to his Youtube channel:   YOUTUBE  https://www.youtube.com/@mapeinturequantique.fushigina

One clear goal of this podcast is to build the bridge between science, contemplative practice, and lived experience. We have real and significant pieces to take us from struggle to peace, and from chaos to clarity. We feel them in the body. We sense them in the mind. We practice them in daily life. And now, research is beginning to explain how and why they work. In this episode, Holly is joined by Ann Van de Winckel, PhD, Associate Professor in the Division of Physical Therapy and Rehabilitation Science at the University of Minnesota Medical School and Director of the Brain–Body–Mind Lab, whose work is supported by a fellowship from the Earl E. Bakken Center for Spirituality & Healing.   Ann's research explores how the brain and body communicate, how pain and stress can escalate when early signals are ignored, and how restoring awareness of the body can help reduce suffering—particularly for people living with chronic pain and neurological injury. Together, they explore how this research is being applied in real-world settings: from using mindful movement such as qigong to support regulation and sleep in hospital environments, to helping people with amputation reduce phantom limb pain by improving body awareness. They also discuss the emerging field of NeuroArts, including how Marc Noël's quantum paintings and immersive virtual experiences may support grounding, calm, and restored body awareness in students with anxiety and in people living with spinal cord injury. This conversation is about more than research alone. It's about connecting what we feel, what we practice, and what science is beginning to validate—so we can live with greater awareness, clarity, and agency. #PayAttention #MindBodyConnection #HealingAndScience #Awareness #IntegrativeHealth #ChronicPain #Qigong #Mindfulness #NeuroArts #LivedExperience #BakkenCenter

In the last two episodes of Pay Attention, we explored why doing more isn't the answer—and why deeply ingrained habits can't be changed through intellectual insight or thinking alone. So what does create real change? In this episode, Holly McNeill is joined by somatic psychotherapist Maira Holzmann for a grounded conversation about what happens when awareness moves beyond thought and includes the body. Together, they explore how trauma lives in the nervous system, and how insight and clarity can be supported on the path to healing through body-based approaches. The conversation looks at how expanding awareness to include sensation, regulation, and the lived experience of the body—through practices such as somatic therapy and carefully supported psychedelic work—can help interrupt survival patterns and open the door to integration and change. Rather than positioning psychedelics as a solution, this episode places them in proper context: as one possible support for deepening awareness when used with intention, preparation, and integration. This episode is about remembering—not fixing. About embodiment, not effort. And about what becomes possible when awareness includes the whole system, not just the thinking mind.

Coming out of last week's conversation with Dr. Patel on Less Is More and the power of doing less for our physical health, this episode of Pay Attention turns toward the mental and emotional habits that quietly shape our lives. Holly sits down with Amy Kemp, author of I See You, to explore why working harder eventually stops working—and how many of our most celebrated traits are actually survival mechanisms formed long before we were conscious of them. Together, they examine how thought habits are formed, why the brain resists change even when something no longer serves us, and how intuition gets buried under years of over-functioning and responsibility. This conversation bridges neuroscience, lived experience, and mindfulness to reveal how awareness—not effort—is what creates real agency. In this episode, you'll explore: Why you can't outwork your thought habits How survival patterns become damaging when we outgrow them The quiet loss (and recovery) of intuition Why high-achieving women often feel unseen despite outward success How paying attention creates the space for change If Less Is More invited you to reconsider your relationship with health, this episode invites you to look at what you may still be carrying—mentally, emotionally, and unconsciously—and how to begin letting go.

As the New Year begins, many of us feel pressure to fix, improve, or overhaul our lives. In this episode of Pay Attention, Holly McNeill is joined by osteopathic physician Dr. Neal Patel for a grounded, compassionate conversation about what healing can look like when we slow down and do less—not more. Together, they explore the connection between stress, mental health, and the body, and how unresolved emotional patterns often show up as physical pain, inflammation, or chronic illness. Dr. Patel shares his holistic, patient-centered philosophy—emphasizing fewer pills, fewer procedures, and greater awareness of the habits that quietly shape our health. The conversation also touches on meditation, foundational practices like sleep, movement, and nutrition, and emerging research on the endocannabinoid system and energy-based healing.  Rather than offering resolutions or quick fixes, this episode invites you to pause, pay attention, and listen—to your body, your mind, and the signals you may have been ignoring. #PayAttentionPodcast #LessIsMore #CompassionateCare #MindBodyConnection #HolisticHealing #StressAndHealth #MindfulnessInMedicine #PreventativeHealth #HealingJourney #NewYearReflection

The Mindfulness Architect, Holly McNeill, reflects on New Year's resolutions—and why intention alone is rarely enough to create real change. Rather than offering another checklist or goal-setting framework, this episode invites listeners to pause and examine what they are actually paying attention to—day by day, moment by moment—and how that attention shapes identity, choices, and the direction of their lives. As the year comes to a close, Holly explores the relationship between intention and attention, sharing how her own intention to find something better opened her to seeing new possibilities. She closes by inviting listeners to create a New Year's resolution grounded in intentional attention, and to carry that awareness into the year ahead.

On this Christmas Eve, I invite you to pause. In a season that can feel joyful for some and heavy for others, this episode is a quiet reflection on the gift of the human journey — with all of its beauty, struggle, tenderness, and possibility. There is a natural flow to life, and much of our suffering comes from the habits, beliefs, and patterns we've unknowingly created in an effort to protect ourselves. Part of this human journey is gently learning to recognize and unwind that conditioning. The P.E.R.L.O.V.E. framework emerged from lived experience and years of exploration across mindfulness, neuroscience, and spirituality, offering one compassionate way to do just that. This episode is not about fixing yourself — it's about remembering who you are beneath the conditioning. Wherever you find yourself this holiday season, may this be a moment to breathe, soften, and reconnect with the quiet wisdom already within you. Wishing you peace, presence, and love on this precious human journey. #Mindfulness #SelfAwareness #InnerPeace #HumanJourney #PayAttention

This week, the Mindfulness Architect, Holly McNeill is joined by Dr. Lenka Schulze, an Intuologist, Author, Educator and Spiritual Guide. Her lifelong experience, ongoing research, and ample knowledge in the area of intuition and consciousness, create a solid platform from which she invites others to view and to see life from the soul's point of view. She is very passionate to share her unique perspective to subtle energies, vibrations and frequencies and bring them down to earth in a palatable way for people to not only comprehend easily but to take this information to apply easily into their daily life.

This week, the Mindfulness Architect, Holly McNeill is joined by Rita Ernst, the Amazon best-selling author of Show Up Positive (2022) and Culture Impact: Strategies to Create World-Changing Workplaces (2023). Forbes, MSNBC, and over 30 podcasts worldwide have featured Rita as a culture and change management expert. TAP-In Magazine named her the Top Influential Leader of 2022. She owns Ignite Your Extraordinary, which won the Most Positive Management Consultancy of 2023 and 2024 and the Excellence Award for Workplace Wellbeing Support 2024. She holds an advanced degree in Organizational Psychology from Clemson University.

On this episode, the Mindfulness Architect, Holly McNeill is joined by Michele Phillips, President of Key Performance — a powerhouse in elevating happiness, excellence, and human potential in the workplace. With more than 25 years of entrepreneurial experience, Michele blends neuroscience, habit formation, and positive psychology into a refreshingly practical formula for personal and professional success. Michele's impact spans the globe, partnering with elite organizations like TAG Heuer, Pfizer, Verizon, Schott, Nomura, Barclays, The PGA, and The New York State Bridge Authority. Through her dynamic workshops, transformational coaching, and high-energy keynotes, she empowers leaders to write their own outcomes — creating cultures where people thrive, teams rise, and organizations transform from the inside out. If you're ready to shift your mindset, expand your awareness, and step into empowered leadership, this is an episode you won't want to miss. Tune in, take a breath, and let's pay attention together. 💛✨ #PayAttentionPodcast #ConsciousLeadership #MindfulnessAtWork #PositivePsychology #NeuroscienceBased

This special Thanksgiving episode is a pause — a gentle breath — for anyone who feels alienated, estranged, or separated during the holidays. In one of the most personal episodes she's ever shared, Holly opens her heart and tells the story of her long, painful journey through parental alienation, estrangement, and years of fighting to stay connected to her children. She speaks directly to anyone navigating complicated family dynamics: parents missing their kids, adult children distant from a parent, and anyone carrying the ache of disconnection during the holiday season. And though Holly is deeply grateful for the relationship she has with her children today, this episode is about self-care, self-compassion, and staying open to even the smallest flicker of hope. She reflects on how the hardest chapters of her life eventually led her back to herself — to awareness, healing, and the rebuilding of a relationship she once feared was lost forever. If the holidays feel heavy this year, this message is for you. A reminder that healing is possible. A reminder that you're not alone. And an invitation to soften, breathe, and stay open to something better.  #ParentalAlienation #Estrangement #HolidayHealing #MindfulnessJourney #SelfCompassion #MentalHealthSupport #HopeAndHealing #FamilyEstrangement #PayAttentionPodcast #TheMindfulnessArchitect

What if the chaos in your life was actually the beginning of something beautiful? In this inspiring conversation, host Holly McNeill sits down with artist-turned-coach Marc Scheff to explore how creativity, risk-taking, and letting go can reshape the way we live and work. From leaving behind a career in tech to building a thriving art and coaching practice, Mark shares how his Make a Mess framework helps people create, destroy, and emerge into their most authentic selves. Key takeaways: Why creativity is never linear—and why that's a good thing How to recognize when you're on autopilot and choose differently The power of identity work in building a fulfilling life This episode is a reminder that it's never too late to start again, embrace the unknown, and design a life that truly feels like your own. Connect with Mark: Instgram:   / marcscheff   Linkedin:   / marcscheff   Facebook:   / marcscheff    

What if the pause you've been avoiding is the very thing that could change your life? In this powerful conversation, host Holly McNeill sits down with trauma therapist and coach Dr. Jada Phillips to explore what it means to step off autopilot and come back home to yourself. From working in prisons to guiding frontline workers through the pandemic, Dr. Jada shares how moments of stillness can spark transformation, healing, and a deep reconnection with self. You'll hear how she: • Turned the COVID "pause" into a personal and professional awakening • Helps clients break free from self-abandonment and people-pleasing • Guides others through "disrupting the script" to rewrite their stories with intention This episode is an invitation to slow down, check in, and rediscover the light within you. Connect with Dr. Jada Phillips: Linkedin:   / jada-philips-ph-d-8b639a8   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reserveyout... Facebook:   / reserveyoutoday   Follow Holly McNeill: LinkedIn:   / hollymcneill   Instgram: https://www.instagram.com/hollymcneil... Facebook:   / hollymcneillofficial  

What happens when a tech-savvy mind takes a deep dive into mindfulness? In this episode of Pay Attention, host Holly McNeill sits down with Adam Kobler—leadership coach, technologist, and founder of Protagonist—to explore how meditation and awareness transformed his life and career.  From his early days in management information systems to guiding tech professionals into conscious leadership, Adam shares how mindfulness became his most powerful tool. Key themes include: * How routines and automation shape our lives (and how to break free) * The TAP method: Take A Pause before reacting * Why AI can't replace human intuition—and never will This conversation is a must-listen for anyone curious about the intersection of technology, consciousness, and personal growth. Tune in and discover how awareness can reprogram your life. Connect with Adam Kobler: Website: https://protagonist.life  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/akobleroriginal/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-kobler-geek-leadership/  Follow Holly McNeill:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hollymcneill/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hollymcneillofficial/?hl=en  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hollymcneillofficial/ 

Is self-discovery a final destination—or a story we keep rewriting? ✨ In this heartfelt episode of Pay Attention, host Holly McNeill sits down with Cheyenne Moore—author, producer, and host of Safe Space with Cheyenne—for a conversation that feels like coming home. (Fun fact: Safe Space was the very first podcast Holly ever guested on!) Cheyenne opens up about her journey from rural Illinois to creative and spiritual awakening, sharing how journaling and poetry became her earliest forms of healing and self-expression.  Through years of reflection and faith, she discovered that true growth often comes from listening to the soul's quiet nudges—the parts of us that whisper who we really are. Together, Holly and Cheyenne explore what it means to live authentically in a world that rewards performance, how creativity becomes a form of prayer, and why vulnerability is the real superpower in both art and life. If you've ever felt the call to reconnect with your inner voice—or if you're on your own journey of transformation—this episode will remind you: you are always evolving, and that's the beauty of it.  💫 🎧 Tune in to hear: How writing can become a sacred act of self-discovery The spiritual lessons hidden in everyday life Why sharing your story might be the most healing thing you'll ever do 💬 Connect with Cheyenne Moore: 🔗 LinkedIn |   / cheyenne-moore-95804b325   📘 Facebook |   / cheyenne.n.moore   🎵 TikTok |   / moorewyoming    #PayAttentionPodcast #HollyMcNeill #CheyenneMoore #SafeSpaceWithCheyenne #SpeakingFromTheSoul

Holly's guest this Wednesday is ✨ Dr. Margaret Arnd-Caddigan ✨ A lifelong explorer of both the seen and the unseen, Margaret bridges the worlds of psychotherapy, spirituality, and the paranormal. With a PhD in social work and a master's in religious studies, she began her career studying the relationship between magic and religion—a curiosity that grew into decades of clinical work helping others navigate the mysteries of the mind and spirit. Now retired from academia, Margaret continues her calling as a teacher of meditation and the author of four transformative books, including Embracing Paranormal Experiences: A Guide for Experiencers and Their Helpers. Her work offers grounded, compassionate guidance to those seeking to make sense of extraordinary experiences that defy easy explanation. 🎧 Tune into her podcast, Finding Our Minds, available on all major platforms, where Margaret invites listeners to explore what it truly means to understand consciousness, healing, and the boundaries of human experience. 📩 To connect or learn more, reach out at [email protected] 🌙 Where science meets spirit, and the mind meets mystery.

Welcome to Pay Attention — a podcast guiding you from the chaos of the mind 🌀 to the clarity of the open heart ❤️. (broadcast every Wednesday at 10 am PST / 1 pm EST). We're going BACK TO THE ARCHIVES on this powerful episode of The Pay Attention Podcast.🌿 In this episode, host Holly McNeill welcomes Dr. Don Wood, PhD — author, speaker, and Founder & CEO of the Inspired Performance Institute. Dr. Wood is the creator of the revolutionary TIPP Method (Trauma Informed Performance Psychology) — a neuroscience-based approach proven to help people heal from trauma, stress, anxiety, depression, and addiction, unlocking their true potential for peak performance. In this deeply insightful conversation, Dr. Wood opens up about the origins of TIPP and the science behind reprogramming the mind for healing and high achievement. From personal transformation to professional breakthroughs, you'll learn how unresolved trauma affects the brain and how TIPP empowers thousands to regain clarity, confidence, and calm. ✨ If you're ready to heal, perform at your best, and live with fulfillment, this episode will change the way you think about the mind-body connection. 👉 Feeling inspired? Connect with Dr. Don Wood and let him know you heard him on The Pay Attention Podcast! 📘 Facebook: facebook.com/DrDonWoodPhD 📸 Instagram: @drdonwood 🎵 TikTok: @drdonwood 💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/drdonwoodphd  

We're going BACK TO THE ARCHIVES on this powerful episode of The Pay Attention Podcast. Host Holly McNeill sits down with Sara Davison—The Divorce Coach. A multi-award-winning coach, two-time bestselling author, and host of the Heartbreak to Happiness Podcast, Sara is also a global media voice on breakups, divorce, and domestic abuse. Together, Holly and Sara open up about their own divorce journeys—sharing the raw challenges, the lessons learned, and the ways they stayed grounded while protecting their children's well-being. From the pain of heartbreak to the power of resilience, they explore practical tools for rebuilding your life and reclaiming your happiness. 💡 Whether you're navigating the end of a relationship or supporting someone who is, this episode offers: Compassionate insights from lived experience Proven strategies for healing and moving forward Encouragement to find strength, even in the darkest times FEAM (Financially Emotionally Abused Mothers) is a Survivor-Led Network dedicated to reviving financially and emotionally abused Mothers through emotional & mental support, domestic violence advocacy, and a jumpstart to financial independence post your traumatic experience and beyond. If you're interested in donated to FEAM or need support, go to their website at the following link: https://www.feamrevived.org/ 🎧 Tune in to discover how to transform heartbreak into growth and step into a healthier, more empowered future.

Step into a space where the noise quiets and presence takes center stage. 🎙️ Pay Attention is a weekly podcast (Wednesdays at 10am PST / 1pm EST) hosted by Holly McNeill — an architect turned teacher and spiritual guide who has spent decades weaving together neuroscience 🧠, psychology 📚, Buddhism 🪷, and spirituality 🌌. This is more than a podcast — it's a guide to living with awareness, compassion, and freedom. Inside each episode, you'll discover: ✨ Practical insights into how the mind works ✨ Tools to break free from patterns that keep you stuck ✨ Practices to create space for real transformation ✨ Deep wisdom from special guests and kindred spirits Holly's journey — balancing career, single motherhood, and inner exploration — has led her to the heart of what it means to live with clarity and purpose. Now she's sharing that wisdom with you. 🌟 Join us each week to slow down, breathe deeply, and uncover what lies beyond the chaos. It's time to truly Pay Attention. 🌿

What if changing your life was as simple as changing your habits? In this powerful episode, host Holly McNeill sits down with Dr. Tamsin Astor—Chief Habit Scientist, neuroscientist, yoga teacher, and Ayurvedic coach—to explore how Eastern wisdom and Western neuroscience converge to help us take back control of our minds, our behaviors, and ultimately, our lives. Tamsin shares her journey from academic burnout and caregiving exhaustion to personal transformation through intentional daily rituals.   Key takeaways include: Why habits—not willpower—shape your destiny How to create space between thought and reaction Tools to rewire your brain through repetition and mindfulness The power of community in building lasting change   If you're tired of feeling stuck and ready to reclaim your freedom, this conversation is the reset you've been waiting for.   Follow Dr. Tamsin Astor:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamsin-astor/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tamsinastor/?hl=en  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTHI3qRvXap3I8HjAzPnfjw  Follow Holly McNeill:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hollymcneill/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hollymcneillofficial/?hl=en  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hollymcneillofficial/

What if the key to solving global poverty starts with truly listening? In this powerful episode, Holly McNeill sits down with Gretchen Villegas, a global development executive and "social impact architect," whose journey began as a Peace Corps volunteer in South America and led to decades of transformative work across Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Gretchen shares what it means to build trust, empower communities, and design solutions that actually work—by paying attention to what people truly need. Key takeaways: Why empowerment begins with listening, not assuming The overlooked power of community in the world's poorest regions The current state of global aid and why new approaches are urgently needed How corporations, nonprofits, and individuals can meaningfully raise impact What each of us can do—through intention, choices, and small actions—to be catalysts for change This conversation is a heartfelt reminder that we're all connected—and that hope, compassion, and intention can lead us toward a more equitable world. Connect with Gretchen:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchenvillegassocialimpact/  Connect with host Holly McNeill: Instagram: @hollymcneillofficial Website: https://www.hollymcneill.com    

What if your chronic pain isn't just physical — but deeply connected to your thoughts, emotions, and energy field? In this episode of Pay Attention, Holly McNeill sits down with Debora Wayne, founder of the International Chronic Pain Institute® and creator of the revolutionary HighSpeed Healing® method. After a spiritual awakening on her closet floor at 28, Debora began a journey that led her to heal herself and eventually thousands of others struggling with chronic pain, anxiety, depression, and other "mystery symptoms." Together, they explore: How unprocessed emotions, buried beliefs, and stuck energy can cause physical pain The science and spirituality of the biofield and quantum healing The connection between thoughts, illness, and the body's messages Why the body does keep the score — but can also return you to peace and vitality How to break the cycle of pain without pills, wine, or constant distraction 🌟 Stay tuned until the end for a powerful, guided HighSpeed Healing® session with Debora that you can experience right from home. Let this episode be your invitation to finally feel like yourself again. 📌 Free Resources from Debora Wayne 🎁 Healing Bundle: https://www.internationalcpi.com/gift 📷 Instagram: @deborawayne1 🌐 Website: https://internationalcpi.com 📌 Connect with Host Holly McNeill 📷 Instagram: @hollymcneillofficial 🌐 Website: https://www.hollymcneill.com

What if recurring dreams held the key to understanding who we truly are—and what we're here to do? In this follow-up to their first conversation on dream tending, host Holly McNeill invites dream tender and therapist Valerie Johns back for a raw and revealing live dream tending session. If you've ever wondered who Holly really is beyond the mic, this is the episode. It's raw, unpolished, and deeply personal—and through the process, Holly learns more than she expected. Together, Holly and Valerie explore: How live dream tending can reveal hidden wisdom within recurring dreams Why dreams often uncover unresolved identity, self-worth, and the longing for mentorship How the ego loses control in the dream state—and why that matters for personal growth How some dreams come from the collective unconscious, calling us to healing and action in the world This isn't just a conversation—it's a vulnerable, transformative experience that invites listeners to tend their own inner landscapes with curiosity and care. ✨ Haven't listened to Part 1 yet? Go back and start there for Valerie's full introduction and insights into dream tending. Connect with Valerie Johns: 🌐 valeriejohns.com📷 Ihttps://www.instagram.com/valeriejohnsla/ 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerie-johns-66155216/ 

What if your dreams weren't random at all—but meaningful messages from the deepest parts of you? In this two-part episode of Pay Attention, Holly McNeill sits down with dream tender and therapist Valerie Johns for a profound, soul-stirring conversation about how your dreams can support emotional healing, personal clarity, and spiritual growth. Unlike traditional dream interpretation, Valerie's approach to dream tending invites you to form a relationship with your dreams—to listen, explore, and allow the subconscious to speak. She explains how some dreams come not just from the personal psyche, but from the collective unconscious, offering insight into what the world is asking of us and how we're being called to act. Together, Holly and Valerie explore: Why we forget our dreams (and how to start remembering them) How to engage with dream images as living, healing messengers Why recurring dreams and nightmares are actually calls for attention, not fear How the ego has no control in the dream world—and doesn't like it What skeptics often miss about the transformative power of dreaming Whether you're spiritually curious or cautiously skeptical, this episode invites you to soften, look within, and start listening to what your dreams are trying to tell you—about your healing, your purpose, and your place in a world that needs your full presence. ✨ Stay tuned for Part 2 of this powerful conversation, featuring Valerie's live dream tending session with Holly you won't want to miss. Connect with Valerie Johns: 🌐 valeriejohns.com📷 Ihttps://www.instagram.com/valeriejohnsla/ 🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerie-johns-66155216/   

In this episode of Pay Attention, host Holly McNeill chats with Jay Moon Fields, a leading educator, coach and author. She stops by the show to discuss her Hey Wait framework, which teaches people how to honor their emotional experiences and share them authentically, helping them to break free from the cycles of overthinking, people-pleasing, and self-doubt.  

Following last week's conversation about trauma and body-based healing, this episode of Pay Attention moves us into the next essential layer: reclaiming pleasure. Holly sits down with Dr. Laurie Mintz—licensed psychologist, sex educator, and author of Becoming Cliterate—to explore how cultural conditioning, religious messaging, and gender norms have created a world where women's pleasure is minimized, misunderstood, or steeped in shame. With honesty and clarity, Dr. Mintz breaks down the "orgasm gap," the taboo around masturbation, and why so many women feel disconnected from their own bodies. She also shares practical, science-backed tools for cultivating sexual confidence and embracing self-touch as a powerful form of self-care. This episode is both liberating and grounding—a reminder that pleasure isn't indulgent, it's essential. And as Dr. Mintz powerfully states: pleasure is your human right. Includes candid personal stories, myth-busting insight, and empowering reflections on what it means to truly know and honor your body.   Connect with Dr. Laurie: https://www.drlauriemintz.com/ https://www.instagram.com/drlauriemintz/ https://www.facebook.com/DrLaurieMintz/ Becoming Cliterate Book A Tired Woman's Guide To Passionate Sex More about Dr. Laurie: Dr. Laurie Mintz is an Emeritus Professor at the University of Florida teaching Human Sexuality to hundreds of undergraduates yearly. She has published over 60 scholarly works and authored two popular press books: Becoming Cliterate: Why Orgasm Equality Matters and How to Get It  and A Tired Woman's Guide to Passionate Sex.  Mintz is a licensed psychologist and certified sex therapist in private practice. She is a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, indicating her work has had a positive national influence on the field of psychology.  In 2023, she was named one of Forbes "50 over 50" women innovators.   

In this powerful episode of Pay Attention, Holly is joined by Juliette Karaman, mentor, hypnotherapist, and creator of the Touch Base method, to explore how trauma—especially sexual trauma—gets stored in the body and quietly shapes our self-worth, relationships, and sense of safety. Juliette shares her own journey of collapse and awakening, revealing how shame disconnects us from our bodies and our pleasure. Through somatic awareness and intentional micro-practices, she teaches us how to begin restoring emotional safety, presence, and trust—within ourselves and in connection with others. This conversation lays the foundation for the next episode with Dr. Laurie Mintz, where the focus shifts from healing shame to embracing sexual pleasure. Together, these episodes invite you to reclaim the parts of yourself that trauma made you abandon—and remember that your body, your story, and your pleasure are all worthy of care. 🌀 Includes Juliette's "Touch Base" practice, the Touch-o-Meter tool, and real guidance on how to reconnect to your body and reclaim your story.   Connect with Juliette:  https://feelfullyyou.com Instagram (@juliettekaraman) http://linkedin.com/in/juliette-karaman-van-schaardenburg-89399913b The Scrumptious Woman   More about Juliette:  Juliette Karaman is a self-relationship expert, mentor, and speaker who helps high-achieving leaders, couples, and visionaries reignite intimacy, rebuild trust, and unlock deep, embodied pleasure through her transformative approach, Touch Base.   With decades of experience, she creates safe spaces for healing, vulnerability, and pleasure to thrive. Drawing on somatic healing, Tantra, EMDR, hypnotherapy, and coaching, Juliette blends embodied wisdom with cutting-edge methods to heal trauma, dissolve blocks, and foster lasting intimacy and self-trust.  

In this intimate follow-up to Part 1, we open the Akashic Records—literally. This episode features Holly McNeill's actual reading with Akashic Records expert Jennifer ALLY Kern, paired with in-depth commentary that unpacks the insights as they unfold. From patterns rooted in Holly's nervous system to the energetic meaning of eye contact and creative purpose, the conversation dives into how the Records reveal the truth beneath our habits, struggles, and untapped potential. If you've ever wondered what it's really like to access your Akashic Records, this unfiltered look offers a powerful glimpse into the process—and how soul-level wisdom can ignite personal transformation.  

I'm excited to share this episode exploring the Akashic Records—an ancient concept that invites us to look at consciousness, memory, and energy through a broader lens. This conversation is part of my ongoing exploration of how science, psychology, and spirituality intersect to deepen our understanding of the mind. Have you ever felt like your life is unfolding from a script you didn't write? The Akashic Records—often described as the spiritual "cloud storage" of your soul—may hold the answers. In Part 1 of this two-part series, Holly McNeill sits down with Akashic Records master practitioner Jennifer ALLY Kern to demystify this vast energetic archive and explain how anyone can access it. They explore how the Records contain the history of your soul's journey, your karmic patterns, your soul agreements—and even the energy of your creative work and business. Whether you're craving clarity, healing, or a deeper sense of purpose, this episode reveals how the Akashic Records can guide your next steps. Want to go deeper? Check out this video for more on what the Akashic Records are: 👉 https://youtu.be/SKcv6GSm2dw?si=soXG4SlFYqzkz6bj    

What if you could finally recognize just how powerful you really are? In today's conversation, Holly McNeil sits down with empowerment coach Dana Theus to unpack the deep, often hidden narratives that fuel imposter syndrome—especially for women. From generational beliefs encoded in our very DNA to the brain's surprising loyalty to outdated programming, they explore why self-doubt clings so tightly and, more importantly, how to rewrite the script. This episode will challenge how you see yourself—and reveal the unseen power already within you.  

Is self-discovery a destination, or is it something we're constantly rewriting? In this episode of Pay Attention, host Holly McNeill sits down with Cheyenne Moore—author, producer, and host of the podcast Safe Space with Cheyenne (a full-circle moment, since it was the first show Holly ever guested on!). Cheyenne brings refreshing wisdom to the conversation, speaking candidly about her journey of self-discovery, creativity, and spiritual growth. Growing up in rural Illinois, she found comfort and clarity in journaling and poetry—early forms of expression that would later evolve into her life's work. Through her spiritual awakening and inner exploration, Cheyenne began to understand life as something much bigger than the human experience alone. In this episode, she reflects on the moments that shaped her voice as a writer and a creator, and how they led her to build Safe Space with Cheyenne, a podcast that celebrates vulnerability, truth, and the power of sharing stories. Feeling inspired? Make sure you connect with Cheyenne and tell her you heard her on Pay Attention! Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheyenne-moore-95804b325/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cheyenne.n.moore/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@moorewyoming

What if you could heal in months what took someone else decades? This episode is for you. In this installment of Pay Attention, host Holly McNeill sits down with Barb Varcl Smith—Trauma Therapist, international speaker, podcaster, mentor, and educator—joining from Scotland. Barb specializes in Complex PTSD, PTSD, and the coping mechanisms that support healing. She shares her powerful journey into the field of trauma recovery, which began over 30 years ago as a deeply personal quest to understand her own mind and heal from debilitating PTSD. Through exploring non-traditional modalities like Reiki, Tarot, the Osho Method, and the energetic properties of crystals, wood, and plants, Barb carved a unique path to recovery. Now, she's dedicated to helping others fast-track their healing journeys—so they don't have to spend decades doing it alone. Her book, Parenting with Purpose: Breaking the Trauma Cycle to Raise Happy, Confident Children, a step-by-step guide for parents seeking self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and a nurturing approach to raising children will release soon. Feeling inspired? Make sure to connect with Barb and tell her you heard her on Pay Attention! LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barb-smith-varclova/?originalSubdomain=uk  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barbsvarclova/  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@traumaresponsereprogramming Website: https://your-steps.co.uk

What separates a good leader from a truly great one — especially when the pressure is on? Today's episode has the answers. Holly sits down with Jamie Diglio — high-performance coach, TEDx speaker, Harvard Business School sales coach, author, and CEO — to unpack the mindset and strategy behind peak performance. Jamie shares the origin and impact of her transformational WAR Room and WIN Room frameworks, designed to help individuals and teams show up, stand out, and succeed when it matters most. She opens up about her own career journey that led to creating these breakthrough programs, and offers invaluable insights into what truly defines great leadership. From dismantling invisible barriers to actionable tips you can apply today, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone ready to elevate their performance and lead with clarity and confidence. Feeling inspired? Make sure to connect with Jamie and tell her you heard her on Pay Attention!  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaimediglio/   

Do high-stakes situations leave you feeling frozen and overwhelmed? Guest Adhana McCarthy shares powerful mindfulness tools—like yoga and cognitive reframing—to help you regain clarity and confidence. As a scholar, Certified Yoga Therapist, Certified Life Coach, and Army Physician Assistant with 20 years of military service, Adhana has guided military personnel, medical professionals, and entrepreneurs toward achieving their highest goals. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to cultivate resilience, sharpen focus, and unlock their full potential. Feeling inspired? Make sure you connect with Adhana and tell her you heard her on Pay Attention! LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adhanamccarthy/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yogainuniform/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/adhana1/    Additional Information:  Box Breathing: https://youtu.be/zalzuFPFyuA  Elephant and Rider Meditation: https://youtu.be/e0EBH3ETE2o  Release 2 Rise community: https://bit.ly/R2R_member  Retreat: https://santosharisingretreats.com/#   

Amid the chaos of your daily thoughts, what truly cuts through? One thing—Clarity. In this episode, Holly sits down with Dr. Shahana Alibhai, a TEDx speaker, best-selling author, family physician, and mental health expert. Inspired by Dr. Shahana's powerful 2019 TED Talk, Holly was drawn to her insights on embracing clarity instead of getting lost in life's distractions. Together, they explore the power of self-awareness, the challenges of self-compassion, and how mindfulness can transform the way we navigate stress. Dr. Shahana also shares practical strategies for shifting your mindset and prioritizing your mental well-being. Tune in for an inspiring discussion on how to shine a light on your mental health and build a richer, more fulfilling life. Feeling inspired? Make sure to connect with Dr. Shahana and tell her you heard her on Pay Attention! LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shahana-alibhai-feelbetter/?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2F&originalSubdomain=ca  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedrshahana/?hl=en  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shahana.alibhai/   

Why do we react to trauma the way we do—and more importantly, how can we heal? In this powerful episode, Holly sits down with Dr. Jenny Hughes, a trauma expert, licensed clinical psychologist, and author of The PTSD Recovery Workbook and Triggers to Glimmers: A Vicarious Resilience Journal and Workbook.  Dr. Jenny has dedicated her career to helping trauma survivors, healers, and therapists reclaim their resilience. Together, she and Holly dive into the science behind trauma responses, the hidden impact of vicarious trauma, and practical ways to shift from feeling stuck in triggers to embracing glimmers of hope and healing. Raw, eye-opening, and deeply personal—this episode is for anyone ready to break free from the past and step into a future of resilience and renewal. Feeling inspired? Make sure to connect with Dr. Jenny Hughes and tell her you heard her on Pay Attention! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/traumaqueenphd/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jenniferhughesphd/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-hughes-0b5145194/   

In this episode of Pay Attention, host Holly talks with her neighbor and friend, Tiffany Harrington Shah—a therapist and advocate for women, children, and mental health. Tiffany shares her journey from being a stay-at-home mom to building a career as an MFT while raising four daughters. In 2019, her family was rocked by a traumatic event caused by her then-husband. Despite efforts to hold things together, she made the brave decision in 2022 to file for divorce. Facing financial struggles, legal battles, and a slow-moving court system, Tiffany relied on faith, community, and sheer determination to rebuild her life. Now, she shares her story not as a victim, but as a source of strength—hoping to empower other women facing similar challenges. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on resilience, healing, and reclaiming your power. Feeling inspired? Make sure to connect with Tiffany and tell her you heard her on Pay Attention! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffshah/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tiffanyshahtherapy/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffany-harrington-shah-ma-67123636/   

In this episode of Pay Attention, host Holly sits down with Jen Uschold, PT, NBHWC, CPQC—a seasoned physical therapist with over 30 years of experience specializing in pain science, mental fitness, and health coaching. As a National Board-Certified Health and Wellness Coach and a Fellow in Pain Science through Evidence in Motion, Jen brings a wealth of knowledge to the conversation. Together, they dive deep into the science of pain, exploring how our minds and bodies respond to discomfort and, more importantly, how we can navigate it. Jen shares powerful insights on integrating mental fitness techniques with Lifestyle Medicine to foster holistic well-being. Her passion for teaching shines through as she demystifies the pain response and offers practical strategies to cope with it. If you've ever struggled with pain—physical or emotional—this episode is a must-listen.   Feeling inspired? Make sure to connect with Jen and tell her you heard her on the Pay Attention Podcast!   iRisefor Me: https://www.iriseforme.com/about LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenuscholdpt/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iriseforme/  

In this powerful episode of Pay Attention, host Holly McNeill sits down with award-winning Master Coach and global speaker Alejandra Crisafulli, the visionary behind the 180 Method®. With over 21 years of coaching experience and a track record of transforming thousands of lives, Alejandra shares a profound truth: personal development without a connection to God will leave you endlessly searching for answers. Though Alejandra and Holly have different views on what or who God is, they both believe that connecting with God, Life, or a higher power can bring us home. Through her Decide to Heal approach, Alejandra invites those who acknowledge God's existence to experience true, lasting healing. By distinguishing the ego (how we see ourselves) from the being (how God sees us), she reveals how this simple yet powerful shift can lead to deep transformation. Beyond coaching, Alejandra has built a multimillion-dollar coffee business alongside her husband Eric and has helped entrepreneurs scale into six- and seven-figure success stories. Hear the rest of her story on Pay Attention!

In this episode of Pay Attention, host Holly McNeill returns to sunny California for an inspiring conversation with Wes Woodson. Holly first met Wes at the APCA Conference in Lincolnshire, Illinois, where they both took the stage as speakers. She was immediately struck by his authenticity, resilience, and unwavering positivity—especially given the challenges he has faced and his age. Join them as Wes shares his powerful story and his mission to transform schools into spaces of compassion. Discover how he empowers students to embrace their self-worth, overcome obstacles, and achieve academic success, all while prioritizing their mental well-being. Feeling inspired? Make sure you connect with Wes and tell him you heard him on Pay Attention!  

On this episode of The Pay Attention Podcast, host Holly sits down with Dr. Kate Lund—an inspiring author, keynote speaker, and licensed clinical psychologist known for helping people of all ages build resilience and thrive through life's challenges. With specialized training from Harvard Medical School-affiliated hospitals, Dr. Lund shares her unique blend of professional expertise and personal insight. She opens up about her childhood battle with hydrocephalus, the lessons she learned while raising her children, and how these experiences shaped her career, mindset, and bestselling books. Packed with wisdom and heartfelt stories, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to turn adversity into strength. Feeling inspired? Make sure to connect with Dr. Kate and tell her you heard her on The Pay Attention Podcast! LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-lund/