Sunday’s Coming Podcast

Welcome back to The Sunday's Coming Podcast! After a few months off, Caleb and Kaleb are kicking off Season 5 with a casual catch-up episode all about what really happens when you take your team out of their normal Sunday rhythm.From trade show memories to mission trip vibes, the guys talk about how stepping outside the day-to-day can compress six months of relationship building into a single week — and why that matters so much for staff and volunteers. They share lessons learned from years of attending Philo, InfoComm, NAB, and more, plus practical tips on debriefing events, taking notes, and building a team culture of intentional reflection.They also break down all the upcoming events on the calendar — and trust us, there are a lot.In this episode: 🎟 Why trade shows are about people more than tech 📝 Building a habit of contemporaneous notes & post-event debriefs 🎚 The Dallas Mix Competition and how Adam Skidmore's idea grew into a national event 🎤 What to expect at Philo Conference + the Amplio Lounge after-party ⛳️ The Worship Classic golf tournament + Salt Conference in Dallas 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Raising tiny escape artists, United Wrapped, and other tangents.Whether you're a production leader, worship pastor, or volunteer, this one is full of encouragement to be intentional with your team — and a heads-up on where to find us in person this year.Because Sunday's always coming, and we're all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcast📬 Email us your guest ideas: [email protected]🎟 Check out upcoming events: ampliosystems.com/events⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Laz for one of the most honest conversations we’ve had about ministry, burnout, and finding your way back when everything feels broken.Laz shares his journey from touring in metal bands, stepping into church production with zero experience, rising into leadership at Soul City Church — and then walking away from ministry not once, but twice. They unpack what led to burnout, how unspoken expectations and self-pressure can quietly destroy your health, and why sometimes leaving is the only way to truly heal.They talk about:🔥 Church burnout and the cost of never asking for help🧠 Mental health, therapy, and breaking ministry stigma👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Raising kids while serving in church leadership🎛 Growing from volunteer to Technical Director❤️ What brought Laz back to ministry — with a healthier heartThis episode is for anyone who’s ever thought, “I can’t do this anymore” — and wondered if there’s still a future for them in the Church.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Laz for one of the most honest conversations we’ve had about ministry, burnout, and finding your way back when everything feels broken.Laz shares his journey from touring in metal bands, stepping into church production with zero experience, rising into leadership at Soul City Church — and then walking away from ministry not once, but twice. They unpack what led to burnout, how unspoken expectations and self-pressure can quietly destroy your health, and why sometimes leaving is the only way to truly heal.They talk about:🔥 Church burnout and the cost of never asking for help🧠 Mental health, therapy, and breaking ministry stigma👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Raising kids while serving in church leadership🎛 Growing from volunteer to Technical Director❤️ What brought Laz back to ministry — with a healthier heartThis episode is for anyone who’s ever thought, “I can’t do this anymore” — and wondered if there’s still a future for them in the Church.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Danielle Iselin, Global Production Director at VIVE Church — a rapidly growing multi-campus church with locations across the U.S., Europe, and the Middle East. Danielle leads production for 15 campuses around the world — almost entirely volunteer-run.She shares her journey from growing up in Australia and studying forensic investigation to running production systems that support international campuses. This conversation dives deep into leadership, culture, and scaling creative ministry in one of the world’s most innovative church environments.They talk about:🌍 What it takes to lead production across multiple countries.🎚 How to train volunteers effectively (even online).💡 The systems that make scaling sustainable.❤️ Building culture between worship and production teams.👩‍💻 Being a woman in church tech — and why representation matters.If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the demands of ministry or wondered how to multiply what’s in your hands, this episode will remind you that the solution might already be sitting in front of you.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Stephen Brewster — creative leader, coach, and founder of The Harmony Group — to talk about burnout, leadership, and rebuilding your life when ministry nearly breaks you.Stephen’s story takes him from the music industry to Cross Point Church, through burnout and anxiety, and into a new calling helping churches write and release music that actually serves their people. It’s a powerful conversation about leadership, identity, and the cost of creativity in the church world.They talk about:🔥 What burnout really feels like (and how to see it coming).🧭 Why boundaries and expectations save your ministry and your family.💡 How to rebuild when everything falls apart.🎵 The truth about church worship projects — and when not to make one.❤️ Why calling isn’t about what you do, it’s about who you are.Whether you’re a pastor, creative, or volunteer, this episode is for anyone who’s ever wondered, “Can I really keep doing this?”Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Tony Sorrentino, CEO of OX Creative, to talk about what it looks like to follow God’s calling through major life and career transitions.Tony shares his journey from leading worship at Willow Creek Church to running a global creative agency that serves ministries, nonprofits, and purpose-driven brands. They unpack what it means to step out of ministry without stepping away from purpose — and how to lead creative people with clarity, humility, and courage.They talk about:🎸 Leaving church staff and rediscovering calling.💡 The tension between faith, creativity, and leadership.🏗 How OX is building a 100-year vision that multiplies good.🧭 Why healthy transitions and risk-taking leadership matter more than ever.❤️ How to empower people, not just manage them.It’s an honest, hope-filled conversation for anyone navigating leadership, creativity, or a season of change — a reminder that calling isn’t about your title, it’s about your obedience.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Aaron Stanski, founder and president of Rise Point, to talk about one of the most expensive and misunderstood parts of ministry — building projects.Aaron has helped design and guide hundreds of churches through renovations, new campuses, and master plans. In this episode, he shares what really goes into creating spaces that serve ministry instead of distracting from it.They talk about:🏗 How to avoid wasting millions on buildings that don’t fit your mission.📐 The biggest design mistakes churches make (and how to fix them).💡 Why your “phase two” may never happen — and what to do about it.💬 How to balance beauty, budget, and calling when building for the Kingdom.❤️ Why the process matters as much as the final product.Whether you’re dreaming about your first campus or planning your fifth expansion, this episode will give you practical wisdom and spiritual perspective on how to build with purpose — not pressure.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Jaden Seno, Technical Director at *The Chapel* in Chicagoland — and one of the most talented young audio engineers you’ll meet. At just 23, Jaden has gone from volunteering at his local church to overseeing production for multiple campuses and leading teams of volunteers with humility and heart. They talk about: 🎚 How Jaden got his start in church tech at 15. 🎧 The journey from “just unmuting channels” to mixing for thousands every weekend. 🏗 What it’s like leading volunteers twice your age. ❤️ Why relationships and discipleship matter more than perfect mixes. ⚙️ How to stay teachable, take risks, and keep growing in ministry. It’s an honest and inspiring conversation about calling, character, and what it really means to serve the Church through production. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together. Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠ 📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠ ⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Jeremiah Carlson—former frontman of The Neverclaim and Brutal Fight—to talk about his journey from hardcore tours and record deals to pastoring worship teams and rediscovering the heart of the local church.Jeremiah shares about:🎸 Getting saved as a teenager in the Portland hardcore scene.🎤 Touring the world with The Neverclaim and signing a major record deal.🏠 Leaving Nashville to follow God’s call to a small church in Boise.❤️ Learning to build ministry around people, not performance.They talk about revival, burnout, church wounds, and what it really means to build a healthy worship culture—one where you don’t sacrifice people on the altar of excellence.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Cody Patterson—a worship pastor, creative leader, and marketing director whose story is nothing short of unbelievable. From getting accidentally shot in the chest at 18 and learning to sing again, to leading in both church and corporate spaces, Cody’s journey is one of faith, humility, and growth.They talk about how to build teams that value people over perfection, the difference between excellence and control, and why empowering volunteers matters more than flawless Sundays. Cody also shares what churches can learn from Chick-fil-A, and how to heal the “us vs. them” divide between worship and production teams.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!After a summer break, Caleb & Kaleb are back in the studio to kick off a fresh run of episodes with some lighthearted fun, honest talk about the grind of podcasting, and what’s ahead this fall. They swap summer stories (yes, cliff-jumping cautionary tales), introduce a new game, guessing whether a name is a church, bar, dispensary, or bank, and talk about why diverse creative voices matter for leaders and teams.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: ⁠@sundayscomingpodcast⁠📬 Email us your guest ideas: ⁠[email protected]⁠⛳ Sign up for The Worship Classic on October 7: ⁠www.theworshipclassic.org⁠⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! In this special Season 3 finale, Caleb & Kaleb reflect on the rhythms of ministry, the danger of burnout, and why summer is the perfect time to zoom out and start making smarter decisions for your future self.They talk about the brutal grind of the September-to-Christmas run, the importance of designing a ministry calendar before you’re drowning in it, and how to build relationships now—especially with the people you don’t naturally click with—before everything hits the fan. From awkward IT guy dynamics to emotional vacation breakdowns, this episode is full of both laughs and gut-checks for leaders who want to finish well.They also share exciting details about the upcoming Worship Classic golf tournament, why you should bring your senior pastor or your IT person (or both), and how relational equity will carry your leadership when everything else is shaking.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)📸 Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcast📬 Email us your guest ideas: [email protected]⛳ Sign up for The Worship Classic on October 7: www.theworshipclassic.org⭐️ Leave a review and share the show with your team!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Jeff Boriss to unpack a brutally honest conversation about burnout, leadership, and why your calendar might be preaching a louder message than your sermons.Jeff reflects on a season in ministry where creativity ran wild—but so did exhaustion. From all-nighters building set pieces no one asked for, to realizing he was setting his own impossible expectations, Jeff opens up about the emotional toll of ministry hustle and the lie of “excellence” at all costs. The turning point? A moment of clarity: your calendar doesn’t lie—it shows what you actually value.Whether you’re leading a church, running a team, or just trying to keep your head above water, this episode will challenge how you think about time, boundaries, and what really matters.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.🔗 Extras (Want More?):📸 Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcast 📬 Send us episode ideas or questions: [email protected] ⭐️ Leave a review—it helps more than you know!🎉 Bonus Links & Resources:🎯 Hang with us at The Worship Classic October 7 · Nashville, TN · The day before Salt Conference 👉 theworshipclassic.org | @theworshipclassic🔌 Powered by Amplio Systems ampliosystems.com | @ampliosystems Amplio Systems is a nationwide integrator of audio, video, lighting, and acoustics—designed specifically for churches. From intimate worship spaces to large broadcast campuses, we create distraction-free environments that support your ministry and ignite creativity for years to come.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with longtime friend and church leader Joey Harris to unpack one of the most unexpected success stories in church growth.Joey shares how his rural Illinois church went from meeting in a high school to owning a college campus—and how they pulled off a multi-site strategy most people said wouldn’t work outside a big city. From leading with vision over gear, to flipping the traditional production mindset on its head, Joey’s journey is full of insight for any leader trying to build something lasting in a place most people overlook.If you’ve ever wondered whether multi-site ministry can thrive in small towns, this one’s for you.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?):Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcastGot a topic idea or guest suggestion? Email us: [email protected] you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review—it helps more church leaders find the show!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with longtime worship leader and pastor John Cassetto, whose journey spans decades of ministry, including 14 years in New England and over a decade at Saddleback Church. In this deeply personal conversation, John opens up about what it means to lead through transitions, wrestle with calling and identity, and rediscover hope when the season feels cold and uncertain.From raising his own support just to lead worship at a tiny church, to overseeing worship ministries across 21 Saddleback campuses, John shares stories of breakthrough, burnout, and the refining process of letting go. He talks honestly about confusing seasons of change, the temptation to let your job become your identity, and the slow work of God in what he calls the “winter” seasons of life.If you’ve ever felt unseen, exhausted, or unsure of your next step in ministry—this one’s for you. It’s a powerful reminder that our calling doesn’t end when an assignment does, and that spring always comes.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?)Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcastGot a topic suggestion or guest idea? Email us: [email protected] this episode encouraged you, leave us a review and share it with a friend!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with the voice behind some of the biggest songs in Christian music history — Andy Chrisman. From selling millions of albums with 4HIM to building worship teams in the local church, Andy shares the highs, the lows, and the real battles that shaped his journey.They dive into Andy’s rise in the Christian music scene, the hidden pressures that came with fame, the hard moments that almost made him walk away, and the deep passion that keeps him leading and coaching worship teams today.Andy also shares about his podcast 1 Degree of Andy and his worship leadership retreat The Worship Table, giving an inside look at how he's investing in the next generation of leaders.Whether you’re leading worship every weekend, dreaming about the road, or just trying to stay faithful in a hidden season, this episode will hit home.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Show Notes:Listen to Andy’s Podcast: 1 Degree of AndyLearn about The Worship Table retreat:Extras (Want More?):Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcastGot a topic you want us to cover? Email us: [email protected] the pod? Leave us a review — it helps more church creatives and leaders find us!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb welcome back their first ever three-time guest — Mike Goldsworthy.In this conversation, they talk about what it looks like to build sustainable rhythms for leadership and life, including a surprising morning habit that’s made all the difference for Mike. They also reflect on the importance of staying grounded as ministry and culture continue to shift, and why personal health often matters more than platform success.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?):- Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/sundayscomingpodcast- Got a topic you want us to cover? Email us: [email protected] Love the pod? Leave us a review — it helps more church creatives and leaders find us!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Spencer DeYoung—CEO of MxU—for a hilarious, honest, and super practical conversation on leadership, burnout, and why Caleb officially canceled Liquid Death.What starts off with a story about demonic canned water (yes, really) turns into an eye-opening look at how church tech teams can shift from survival mode to building healthy, thriving cultures. Spencer shares his journey from skipping school to serve at church, to leading one of the most influential training platforms for worship and production teams around the world.They talk about what’s actually causing volunteer burnout, how to lead seasoned team members as a young staffer, and why relationship—not just training—is the key to excellence in ministry. Whether you’re running FOH, leading worship, or just trying to make it to Sunday without losing your mind, this episode is packed with relatable stories and real insight.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Want More?:📸 Follow us on Instagram → @sundayscomingpodcast📬 Send us episode ideas → [email protected]⭐️ Leave a review if you enjoyed this episode—it helps us out big time!

In Part 2 of this impactful conversation, Brian Taylor continues to unpack his journey from church staff to his current role, mentoring and guiding ministry leaders through challenging seasons. Brian dives into the reality of being in "full-time ministry" beyond just working in a church, redefining what it means to truly serve others regardless of your title or position.Together with Caleb and Kaleb, Brian addresses the complexities of church hurt, leadership pitfalls, and how church teams can overcome internal struggles by building healthier, more authentic cultures. This episode will inspire leaders at every level to lead through adversity with wisdom, humility, and compassion—turning moments of pain into opportunities for profound growth.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Show Notes:(0:00) Intro: Recapping the conversation and welcoming back Brian Taylor.(4:50) Redefining what it means to be in "full-time ministry."(12:15) Transitioning from church staff to a new type of ministry—Brian’s role with Slingshot Group.(19:30) Lessons from working with senior leadership teams at large, complex church organizations.(27:10) Common challenges church teams face in culture, communication, and leadership structure.(34:50) Navigating church hurt as a leader: addressing tough situations head-on with empathy and accountability.(42:30) How to lead authentically through difficult conversations and cultural shifts.(50:20) Creating environments where ministry leaders can thrive instead of merely survive.(58:10) Final thoughts and practical advice for leaders currently experiencing conflict, frustration, or burnout.(1:06:40) Closing remarks and where to connect with Brian.Extras (Want More?):Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcastHave a topic suggestion? We'd love to hear from you: [email protected] the podcast? Leave a review and let us know!Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of the Sunday's Coming Podcast!This week, Brian Taylor joins Caleb and Kaleb to unpack one of ministry’s toughest questions: "Is it church hurt, or is it actually you?" Together, they dive deep into the patterns that many of us fall into—blaming external circumstances, repeating cycles of conflict, and overlooking personal responsibility. Brian shares candid insights about how we unintentionally sabotage our own growth and relationships by not addressing the internal factors that lead to repeated frustrations and disappointments. This episode challenges listeners to confront uncomfortable truths about themselves, encouraging self-awareness, accountability, and genuine transformation. If you've ever felt stuck in the same patterns, experienced church hurt, or wondered why conflicts seem to follow you, this episode is for you.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Extras (Want More?):Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcastHave a topic suggestion? We'd love to hear from you: [email protected] the podcast? Leave a review and let us know!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Caleb are joined by Dan and Abigail Dominguez, co-lead pastors and church planters of Hope Culture Church in Elgin, IL. Together, they'll dive into the heartbeat of volunteer culture and unpack the practical steps they've taken to build a church community where people genuinely love to serve.Dan and Abigail share their experiences transitioning from portable setups to permanent spaces, why maintaining a strong volunteer culture is crucial, and how churches can avoid burnout by caring for the people behind the roles. You'll hear why saying "no" for your volunteers is actually holding your church back, how to create excitement around serving—even at 5 AM—and the key to keeping your volunteer teams healthy, motivated, and committed.They’ll also talk about the unique dynamics of planting a church in Elgin, balancing ministry and marriage, and the impact of fostering authentic community across diverse groups. Whether you're in leadership or serving behind the scenes, this conversation is packed with wisdom and encouragement that every church leader needs to hear.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Want More?Follow along on Instagram @sundayscomingpodcast.Have a guest or topic suggestion? Email us at [email protected] the podcast? Leave a review and share it with a friend!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast!Caleb and Kaleb sit down with worship leader and pastor Joshua Hoegh to discuss the art—and struggle—of saying no. Joshua opens up about his journey from aspiring architect to passionate worship pastor, sharing practical insights on overcoming overcommitment, avoiding burnout, and establishing healthy leadership boundaries. Whether you're in ministry, leadership, or just trying to manage your busy life better, Joshua’s story will inspire you to embrace the power of saying no so you can say yes to what truly matters.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.📲 Follow us on Instagram: @sundayscomingpodcast📩 Got a topic or guest suggestion? Email us: [email protected]⭐️ Enjoying the podcast? Leave us a review—it helps more than you know!Want More?

Welcome back to another episode of the Sunday's Coming Podcast!From leading worship at one of the biggest churches in the country to starting over in a Sam’s Club warehouse, Becky Ykema has seen it all. In this episode, she opens up about the realities of megachurch leadership, the pressure to perform, and why she ultimately walked away from full-time ministry.Becky shares what it’s like to go from a high-production worship environment to a small church plant, the hard lessons learned in leadership, and why she’s now coaching female worship leaders & creatives to navigate these same challenges.If you’ve ever struggled with burnout, church transitions, or finding your identity beyond your job, this conversation is for you.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Show Notes🎙️ 00:00:11 – Intro & welcome to Becky Ykema🏙️ 00:01:18 – Chicago vs. Denver: food, weather, and culture🎸 00:03:09 – Becky’s journey from a small church to leading worship at Willow Creek🏢 00:04:15 – The realities of being a specialist on a megachurch worship team✈️ 00:08:48 – Making the jump from a 21,000-person church to a 500-person startup🎤 00:12:04 – Balancing worship leadership with unexpected tech director duties🗣️ 00:13:44 – Learning to have hard conversations and set clear expectations🚪 00:15:50 – Navigating the emotional weight of leaving ministry💼 00:21:07 – The challenge of handing off leadership and transitioning well🎶 00:29:21 – Contract worship leading: the ups, downs, and sustainability💡 00:34:05 – Investing in female creatives through coaching and mentorship🤝 00:39:22 – Why strong relationships and community matter in ministry🎙️ 00:46:29 – Inside Becky’s podcast: Darling: Confessions of a Former Megachurch Singer🚀 00:47:29 – What’s next for Becky and her work with worship leadersWant More?📲 Follow us on Instagram → @sundayscomingpodcast📩 Got a topic idea? Email us at [email protected]⭐️ Enjoying the show? Leave a review & share this episode with a friend!

Season 3 is officially here! Caleb & Kaleb are back and kicking things off with a deeply important debate—what’s the ultimate coffee mug? From Ember’s high-tech gimmicks to Yeti’s old-school reliability, the guys break down which one actually keeps your coffee hot without ruining your day.But that’s not all—this episode is all about looking back at Season 2 and sharing their thoughts on what worked, what didn’t, and the biggest surprises along the way. Plus, they give a sneak peek at what’s coming in Season 3, including new guests, fresh topics, and some exciting plans for the podcast.And of course, there’s plenty of random, unnecessary debates along the way, because it wouldn’t be The Sunday’s Coming Podcast without them.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.Show Notes☕ [00:00:00] Mug Debate: Ember vs. Yeti – The guys break down the battle of high-tech vs. classic coffee mugs.😂 [00:09:55] Random Life Debates – Why do the smallest things turn into the biggest arguments?🔥 [00:14:47] Back to the Mug Wars – More hot takes on why one of these mugs is a scam.💬 [00:15:46] More Random Life Debates – The most unnecessary arguments continue.🎙️ [00:23:35] Looking Back at Season 2 – What worked, what didn’t, and lessons learned.🚀 [00:28:10] What’s Coming in Season 3 – A sneak peek at guests, topics, and big plans for the podcast.Want more?🔗 Follow us on Instagram @sundayscomingpodcast📩 Got a topic idea? Shoot us an email at [email protected]⭐ Enjoying the show? Leave us a review!

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! Caleb and Kaleb are all alone for this Christmas special, reflecting on the craziness of the season in church production. They dive into overloaded schedules, last-minute changes, and how to create meaningful moments for their teams.This episode explores leadership lessons learned through the chaos, ways to foster intentionality, and how to carve out space for connection and rest during the busiest time of the year. Whether you’re deep in Christmas prep or looking for a fresh perspective, this conversation is full of relatable stories and practical insights to help you keep moving forward.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to The Sunday's Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Caleb are joined by Sara Emmerson, a seasoned ministry leader with stories you won’t believe—including the craziest worship audition ever. Imagine a rap performance that ends with shoes flying and a shirt coming off... yes, it actually happened.Sara shares her journey from answering phones as a pastor’s kid to leading creative teams and coaching leaders in ministry and beyond. Along the way, she reflects on how to build trust, embrace risk, and invest in people who might surprise you. Whether you’re here for the laughs or the leadership wisdom, Sara’s got both in spades.Join us for wild stories, practical advice, and a reminder that the best leaders don’t just manage the chaos—they thrive in it.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

In this episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast, Caleb and Kaleb are joined by Jeff Vandergiessen, a leader whose journey spans from the chaos of Mars Hill to creating Stillwater Reserve, a sanctuary for ministry leaders. Jeff shares his story of planting 24 churches, the burnout that left him sitting in a pile of rubble, and the call to help others find rest and renewal.Jeff discusses the pivotal role of community—your tribe—in sustaining leadership. He dives into why leaders often feel isolated, the cultural pressures driving burnout, and how creating space for rest can lead to deeper connection with God and others. From smash burgers and ATVs at Stillwater Reserve to lessons learned during his Mars Hill days, this conversation is packed with wisdom and practical advice for anyone in leadership.Whether you're a seasoned ministry leader or just navigating the challenges of leading well, this episode will inspire you to find your tribe, prioritize rest, and embrace the rhythms that keep you thriving.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb sit down with Mike Goldsworthy, who shares the unlikely story of becoming a senior pastor at just 29 years old. Together, they dive into the whirlwind of stepping into church leadership with big responsibilities, the “fake it till you make it” moments, and the lessons learned along the way.Mike opens up about navigating imposter syndrome, building trust with an experienced congregation, and the unexpected joys (and challenges) of leading while still figuring things out.Join us for an honest, funny, and inspiring look at what happens when life throws you into the deep end of ministry, and you have to swim! From memorable missteps to surprising breakthroughs, Mike’s journey will resonate with anyone who’s ever felt like they were “too young” for the job.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb are joined by Justin Schaap from Engedi Church’s worship team, Engedi Worship—a community dedicated to creating music that draws people into God’s presence. Justin shares the surreal experience of hearing Engedi Worship’s song on the radio for the very first time.Together, they talk through the journey from the church stage to the radio station, unpacking all the unexpected, funny, and humbling moments along the way. Justin’s story gives a real look behind the scenes of worship going public—touching on the challenges, the surprises, and everything that happens when church music hits the airwaves.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb are joined by Stephen Sheppard—“Shep” to his friends and team members. In this episode, we’re diving into Shep’s unique journey into church production and leadership. From his first late-night Waffle House stop to becoming a respected leader in the field, Shep shares insights into the moments that shaped his career and his deep commitment to building a community centered around service and worship.Shep walks us through his early days of trial and error, finding his footing in ministry, and the transformative moments that taught him what true leadership looks like. Through stories of unexpected challenges, last-minute changes, and the ever-present demand of Sunday, Shep reveals how he’s learned to balance the technical with the relational, always keeping his team and their growth at the forefront.Get ready for an inspiring look at leadership, resilience, and the heart behind what makes every Sunday possible. Whether you’re in ministry or just love a good story of purpose and perseverance, this episode will have you seeing church production—and the role of a leader—in a new light.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb are joined by the creative guru and church communications expert, Phil Bowdle. If you’ve ever felt like your church’s media isn’t connecting, or worse—falling flat—then this episode is for you.Phil breaks down the critical elements that can make or break your church’s media strategy. Whether it’s building a high-impact team, crafting clear and compelling messages, or leveraging creativity to engage your audience, Phil has seen it all. He shares the common mistakes churches make with their media and offers practical solutions to help you transform your approach overnight.We dive into why simplicity is the key to getting your message across and how you can use media to genuinely connect with your community, rather than just add noise to the already overwhelming digital space. Phil’s advice is perfect whether you’re leading a mega-church or just getting started.You won’t want to miss the insights and actionable steps in this conversation—it could be the game-changer your church has been looking for!Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb & Kaleb are joined by Toby from Church Gear, a company that started with one simple idea: helping churches solve the universal problem of unused gear. Toby’s journey from worship pastor to business founder is packed with lessons on creativity, leadership, and the passion to serve churches in a whole new way.In this episode, we dive into Toby’s story—how a tight budget and outdated equipment led him to a discovery that’s now helping churches across the country clear out their storage rooms and increase their ministry budgets. Toby shares his unique insights on building a business rooted in serving the church, and how his experiences have shaped his approach to leadership and problem-solving.Join us for an inspiring conversation about finding innovative solutions to everyday challenges and turning them into something that benefits the entire church community.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast!This week, Caleb and Kaleb are joined by the ever-inspiring Aubrey Wentz, a veteran of both the touring world and church production. Aubrey opens up about navigating relationships in a church setting, sharing some hilarious behind-the-scenes moments (including sneaking kisses behind the video rack!), while also diving into the challenges of balancing personal life and ministry.Aubrey doesn't shy away from discussing the hard seasons in ministry, offering valuable insight into what it takes to survive and thrive when things get tough. From her unexpected journey from theater kid to a key player in church production to her and her husband Matt's reflections on their shared experiences, this episode is packed with laughter, wisdom, and a whole lot of heart.Whether you're a church leader, part of a production team, or just someone walking through a challenging season, this conversation is full of encouragement and humor. Because Sunday's always coming, and we're all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb are joined by Bryce Vaughn, an influencer and accomplished musician whose signature bass sound has made waves in both the music and social media world. In this episode, Bryce takes us through his creative journey, from his early days as a passionate musician to becoming a sought-after influencer with a unique approach to sound.Bryce shares candid stories about the challenges he faced along the way, what it takes to stand out in a crowded industry, and how he’s constantly pushing the boundaries of creativity. He also offers some valuable, behind-the-scenes insights into his process, revealing how he crafted a sound that’s both distinct and widely admired. Whether you’re a musician, a sound enthusiast, or just curious about the intersection of music and social influence, Bryce’s tips and stories will leave you inspired.Join us for a conversation full of laughs, surprises, and practical advice from someone who’s truly mastered his craft and built a following while doing it.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

In this episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast, Caleb & Kaleb sit down with Nikki Lucas, author of Leadership Frameworks, to unpack her experiences in church leadership and navigating the challenges of creative ministry. Nikki offers candid insights into her journey, discussing everything from building effective teams to fostering a culture of innovation within the church. She shares practical advice on balancing personal growth with the demands of ministry and how to lead with authenticity and purpose. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just stepping into a creative role, Nikki's wisdom and experiences will leave you inspired and encouraged to take your ministry to the next level.Join us for a deep dive into the real-life struggles and victories of church leadership.Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

In this episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast, Caleb & Kaleb dive into a powerful conversation with Adam Skidmore about how ministry can become a drug—offering addictive highs that keep you coming back, but also crushing lows that lead to burnout. Adam opens up about the relentless demands, emotional rollercoasters, and the adrenaline rush that make it so hard to walk away. Whether you’ve experienced the pressures of leadership or felt the pull of passion in your work, this episode unpacks the fine line between devotion and exhaustion. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb are joined by Jon Jorgenson for a behind-the-scenes look at one of the wildest days in church production. Jon shares stories of unexpected challenges, from technical mishaps to last-minute scrambles, that tested his team's resilience and creativity. But it wasn’t all chaos; Jon also dives into the valuable lessons learned and how they managed to pull it all together just in time for Sunday. Whether you're in church production or simply love a good story of overcoming the odds, this episode has it all. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Before we dive into this episode, we’re excited to promote The Worship Classic! Visit www.theworshipclassic.org for more details on this incredible event that brings together worship leaders and creatives for a time of inspiration and collaboration. Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb are reflecting on their journey so far, recapping the first season, and sharing their insights and plans for what's next. They reminisce about their favorite moments, the lessons they've learned, and the unexpected surprises along the way. Join us for an engaging conversation filled with laughter, heartfelt stories, and a look into the future of the podcast. Whether you're a long-time listener or new to the show, this episode is a great way to catch up and get excited about what's coming next. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! In this episode, Caleb and Caleb are joined by Tyler Hoff, a long-time collaborator and friend. Together, they delve into Tyler's extensive experience in the world of church production and creative direction.They'll explore Tyler's journey, from his initial steps in the industry to his current role, highlighting the pivotal moments and challenges along the way. Tyler shares insights on the importance of creativity in ministry, the evolution of church production, and the blend of technical skills and spiritual leadership.One of the standout moments is Tyler's recount of a high-stakes filming adventure on a boat, where he found himself trying to not drop the camera in the ocean. This thrilling story adds a unique and engaging twist to the episode, showcasing Tyler's dedication and passion for his craft.Join us for an engaging conversation filled with stories of perseverance, innovation, and the drive to elevate worship experiences through technology and creativity. Tyler's passion for his work shines through, offering listeners a wealth of knowledge and inspiration. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb continue their insightful conversation with Nick Benoit in Part 2 of "The Power of Story." In this episode, Nick dives deeper into the art of storytelling within the context of church production and ministry. He shares powerful anecdotes, practical tips, and his unique perspective on how to effectively communicate messages that resonate with congregations. Join us as we explore the transformative power of story, the challenges of creative ministry, and the importance of authenticity in worship. Whether you're a church leader, creative professional, or simply passionate about storytelling, this episode is packed with valuable insights and inspiration. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb are joined by Nick Benoit, a creative force and storyteller. In this first part of our conversation, Nick shares his unique journey and how his creative processes have evolved over time. They dive deep into Nick’s experiences, discussing the importance of storytelling in church production and the challenges faced along the way. From his early beginnings to his current role, Nick provides valuable insights and inspiration for anyone involved in church production. Join us for an engaging discussion filled with stories, creative tips, and a glimpse into Nick’s world. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb and Kaleb are joined by his friend Brian Nelson, Executive Pastor at The Bridge in the Chicago area. They dive right in, skipping breakfast and going straight to the podcast to share their hilarious and relatable experiences. From bonding over a rude Uber driver in California to reminiscing about their early ministry days, Caleb and Brian bring a mix of humor and deep insights into church leadership and life. Brian shares his journey from worship leader to executive pastor, emphasizing the importance of saying yes to unexpected opportunities and staying content through life's challenges. They discuss the value of silence and solitude in a busy world, the freedom found in church ministry, and the power of longevity in leadership. Whether you're in church production, leadership, or just looking for some laughs and wisdom, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways. Join Caleb, Kaleb, and Brian as they explore the ups and downs of ministry, the importance of balancing work and family, and why sometimes, an Uber driver can bring people closer together. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday's Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb are joined by Dennis Choy, an executive leader with an extraordinary journey in church ministry. From his beginnings as a youth pastor to his current executive role, Dennis has worn countless hats and navigated various roles with unparalleled passion and dedication. In this episode, Dennis shares his remarkable story, filled with unexpected twists and turns, revealing how each role shaped his path to church leadership. Listen in as Dennis discusses the challenges and triumphs of his multifaceted career, offering valuable insights for anyone looking to find their calling and excel in church production, youth ministry, and executive leadership. Join us for an inspiring conversation about faith, perseverance, and the pursuit of purpose in every stage of life. Discover how Dennis Choy transitioned from youth pastor to an executive leader, and gain practical advice for leadership in ministry. Whether you're involved in church production, seeking to grow in your ministry career, or looking for inspiration in your spiritual journey, this episode is packed with insights that you won't want to miss. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb are joined by Sam VanDynHoven, who is the Worship Pastor at City First Church in Rockford, Illinois. They'll start by catching up and discussing Sam’s experiences and journey. The conversation will delve into the challenges and triumphs Sam has faced in his role, exploring the balance between technical skills and ministry. Sam will share insights on how to maintain creativity and passion in church production, drawing from personal experiences and stories. Join us for an engaging discussion filled with valuable takeaways for anyone involved in church leadership and production. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb & Kaleb sits down with Caleb's best friend, Stephen Hull, to discuss the intriguing journey from touring musician to ministry leader at Passion City Church's Trillith campus. Explore Stephen’s transition and the crucial role of relationships and creative integrity in church production, along with the unique challenges of crafting impactful congregational experiences beyond just Christmas and Easter. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

Welcome back to another episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb and Kaleb are joined by Lindsay Van Wyk from Soul City Church. Fresh from Finland, Lindsay shares her unique experiences in event production at Navy Pier and church service management. Explore the challenges of working with diverse teams and ensuring every church service is spiritually enriching. We also dive into the importance of personal well-being in ministry and building strong volunteer relationships. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.

In this week's episode of the "Sunday's Coming Podcast," we sit down with his friend of ten years, Todd Elliott. As they reminisce about their decade-long friendship and Todd's diverse experiences in church production, the conversation flows from heartfelt memories to professional insights. Todd, who is the founder of FILO Conference and an author, shares stories from the creation of his book, "I Love Jesus, but I Hate Christmas," offering a rare glimpse into the challenges and triumphs of church production. The episode further explores Todd's role in nurturing a supportive community for tech personnel in churches through initiatives like cohorts and personalized coaching sessions. Whether you're involved in church production, interested in the intricacies of organizing large-scale religious events, or simply looking for stories of impactful leadership, this podcast promises a blend of inspiration, education, and personal growth.

Welcome to the first episode of The Sunday’s Coming Podcast! This week, Caleb and Kaleb dive into the challenges and triumphs of church leadership post-COVID, exploring how Sundays never stop coming and what that means for team sustainability and creativity. We’ll share insights on reducing burnout, enhancing team dynamics, and the surprising lessons learned from visiting other churches. Plus, we get real about personal growth and leadership in ministry—expect stories, laughter, and a few heartfelt moments. Because Sunday’s always coming, and we’re all in this together.