Tactical Transition

Hello everyone, and welcome to this special edition of the Tactical Transition Podcast! Join hosts Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po as they celebrate the 2 a.m. launch of their new book, "un-TAP'ed; A guide to faith, family, and life after the military.” This episode delves into the critical, often overlooked aspects of military transition that the book addresses, featuring powerful insights from guests Jason Schermerhorn, Trent Clark, and John Perez. Key Discussion Points and Insights from “un-Tap’ed” Addressing the Emotional Gap: The book was written because the hosts recognized that while programs like TAP (Transition Assistance Program) cover résumés, interviews, and networking, there is "so much more to this military transition than just getting another job. It's such a life change.” Michele noted that transition is an emotional process involving "hanging up a uniform that you have taken great pride in." The 2 A.M. Friend: The special 2 a.m. launch time is in honor of the "2 a.m. friend". The book was expedited after Cyndi and Michele experienced the loss of a close friend, a senior leader Marine, to suicide. This tragic event spurred the hosts to realize, "we’ve got to talk about... the impact of transition and we’ve got to say the word suicide.” The 2 a.m. phone call symbolizes when a person is in a dark place and needs someone to answer the phone. As John Perez remarked: "I've never gotten a good phone call at 2 a.m. So, all the more reason you got to be there and answer the phone.” Faith and Authenticity: The hosts thoughtfully decided to include faith because it felt "inauthentic" not to. Michele emphasized: "It's a book about transition that happens to be written by Christians. It's not a book about Christians written by folks who just want to talk about transitioning". This inclusion aims to remind service members of their value, which goes beyond the uniform, rank, or hat. Impact on the Military Family: Transition is a change for everyone—the service member, their spouse, children, and community. The hosts use exercises in their seminars to initiate necessary conversations between the service member and their "teammate" regarding priorities like CLAMS (Challenge, Location, Advancement, Money, Security) in a new job. Managing Expectations and Stress: Transition is often "heavy," but "heavy isn't always bad." The book addresses the stress and anxiety inherent in the process. Jason noted that setting expectations that "everything's going to be great" does "nobody a service" because setbacks are inevitable, and it may take a while to find the perfect job. Redefining Self and Community: Trent offered powerful advice, urging transitioning members to remember: "you were never just the rank you were, never just a tab, you were never just the MOS... transition isn't about proving that you still matter. It's about deciding where you want that impact to land next.” Building a New Team: The goal of the program and the book is to develop vested relationships, not just end after a class. Cyndi emphasized that "transition is a team sport." Trent advised building a team—including individuals who "don't even know they're your team"—to lower stress levels. Michele urged listeners: "don't be afraid to call at 2 a.m." The Deeper Mission: Michele shared that the 2 a.m. launch coincided with the 10th anniversary of the exact time her son was killed, underscoring that loss and longing can persist, but there is "more to do" as contributors to family and community. Funding Future Work: All proceeds from the book will go toward funding classes that Cyndi and Michele conduct for the SOF community. Order your copy of “un-TAP’ed” 

Welcome to this week's episode of Tactical Transition! Join your hosts, Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po, as they share a deeply personal and insightful conversation about the role of faith in their lives, their business, and its profound impact on military career transition. Key Points from This Episode: A Personal Foundation: Cyndi and Michele begin by discussing the changing seasons, likening the dormancy and growth of fall to the periods of protection and growth in life. They introduce the topic of faith, acknowledging it's a risk in business but expressing gratitude for the growing openness about it. Their goal is not to convert, but to share how their Christian faith underpins their success and intuition. Faith in Their Upcoming Book & Business: Michele and Cyndi are releasing a new book on military career transition. They emphasize it's "the experts on military career transition written by Christians, not a Christian book about military transition". Their business, 374 Consultants, is named after Psalm 37:4: "Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart". This philosophy guides them to lead with heart, service, and collaboration, not competition, always seeking to help others. They clarify that in their ESEL seminars, they do not preach. Still, their actions, resources, and trusted network are designed to alleviate the stress and anxiety of transition, helping service members with the "heavy stuff". Navigating Life's Challenges with Faith: Cyndi shares how her unwavering faith has guided her through tragedies, including the loss of her father, and financial struggles, always finding God's provision. Michele bravely discusses her experience with immense grief after losing her son, Chris. While she questioned and felt anger, her faith provided an anchor, highlighting the importance of having God to turn to, even in anger. She quotes the MercyMe song, "Bring on the Rain," with the powerful line: "How can circumstances possibly change who you are forever in me?". Michele uses the analogy of floating in dense water: when faced with overwhelming challenges, letting go and trusting God prevents drowning, allowing one to float towards greater things. The Power of Hope and Community: The hosts present a compelling statistic from the Pew Research Center (2011): Post-9/11 veterans attending religious services at least once a week have a 67% chance of having an easier time readjusting to civilian life, compared to a 43% probability for those who never attend. Michele passionately states that "Faith gives you hope. Faith gives you mission. Faith gives you integrity. Faith gives you character... Faith above everything provides hope". Cyndi adds that negative thoughts are harmful and should be countered with hope, trusting that even a "no" to a prayer means "something better" is on the way. She shares a personal anecdote of a business closure leading to new, better opportunities. Both hosts emphasize the vital importance of surrounding oneself with the right people and community—a beacon found in faith and reflected in the military family. Michele and Cyndi's heartfelt conversation underscores how their faith provides a resilient foundation, not only for their personal lives but also for their mission to support transitioning veterans. Their message encourages hope, trust, and connection as service members embark on their next adventure.

Welcome to an enlightening episode of Tactical Transition, where your hosts, Cyndi Po and Michele Lewis, engage in a candid conversation with TJ Baird, a recently retired U.S. Army Command Sergeant Major and former Command Senior Enlisted Leader from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. TJ, who served for over 30 years, brings a unique perspective on transitioning from military life to a new, passion-driven career. Here are some key takeaways from our insightful discussion with TJ Baird: A Unique Path Post-Retirement: TJ, married to Command Sergeant Major Joanne Nman and father to Veronica, made a deliberate choice not to pursue a traditional 9-to-5 job after his extensive military career. He and Joanne had decided years ago they wanted a different retirement. Founding Warrior Dad Stories: TJ established Warrior Dad Stories, a disabled veteran-owned business. Through this venture, he authored two emotionally driven illustrated books: Warrior Dad, reflecting the duality of being a warfighter and devoted father, and The Adventures of Cool Bear, a heartfelt journey inspired by deployment and his daughter's gift of a small bear. Life's Leadership Lessons: TJ also shares "Life's Leadership Lessons" on LinkedIn, drawing on his vast experience, including successes and failures. His dog, Macaroni, is a frequent and beloved subject in these posts. The "Trophy Husband": Michele and Cyndi playfully highlight TJ’s self-proclaimed status as a "trophy husband," a title he embraces with humor and dedication, focusing on cooking, cleaning, and staying in shape for his wife. Writing as Therapy and Passion: TJ has always enjoyed writing and found it "very therapeutic". He uses visual descriptions, poems, and haikus as a form of art therapy, particularly for traumatic brain injury (TBI). He encourages others to discover and pursue their passions, noting that military life often tends to overshadow personal interests. Overcoming Self-Consciousness: TJ admitted he initially kept his passion for writing private, fearing it didn't fit the "big tough warrior" persona expected in alpha-dominated military units. Cyndi emphasized that "you can still be badass and ride a haiku". Embracing the "Me" Mindset: Transitioning from a "we team mindset" to focusing on personal aspirations can be challenging for military leaders. TJ stressed the importance of having a plan and knowing what you don't want to do in retirement, highlighting his choice not to work for the government. Unexpected Realities of Retirement: TJ shared several things people don't often tell you about retirement: Profound Tiredness: After decades of service, your body and mind are "very tired". He strongly advises taking a break before starting a new job to allow for rest and reset. Loss of Benefits: Automatic TSA Pre-check is revoked upon retirement, though easily regained. Similarly, the annual fee waiver for American Express Platinum cards for active-duty military is lost. ID Card Priority Shift: His military retirement ID card places him at the bottom of priority lists, but his military dependent ID card (as a spouse) gives him "one bravo" priority for travel and services. Post-Employment Rehabilitation Evaluation Program (PREP): TJ is currently attending the VA-run PREP program in Tampa for TBI treatment. He described it as an individualized, comprehensive program (art, music, physical, and clinical therapies) that, though initially "uncomfortable" due to its intense focus on the individual, has been "amazing." He uses the word "reforged" to describe the positive transformation, emphasizing that it's a "warrior word" for polishing who you are. Fun Fact: TJ has an identical twin brother, Derek, who is still serving in the Army; they are often mistaken for one another. They are co-writing a leadership book based on vignettes from their lives. TJ's journey offers valuable insights for anyone navigating a significant life transition, emphasizing the importance of self-discovery, passion, and intentional planning.

Welcome to another insightful episode of Tactical Transition! Join your hosts, Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po, as they sit down with special guest Colonel Bryan Eovito, a distinguished "soon-to-be" 32-year veteran of the US Marine Corps. Bryan shares invaluable lessons as he is transitioning from military service to a senior director role at a Virginia-based tech company, specializing in AI-enabled digital transformation. This episode is brought to you by Vet Mentor AI, a veteran-founded platform established in 2024 by Marine Corps veteran Paul Helinski. This AI-driven tool simplifies and enhances access to VA disability benefits. You can save $50 off your yearly access using the code ESELSEMINARS at vetmentorai.com. Key Takeaways from Bryan Eovito's Transition Journey: Beyond the Tactical: Bryan initially expected his transition seminar to be purely tactical (VA benefits, etc.). However, the ESL Seminars provided a more "operational, almost campaigning" approach, emphasizing networking and relationships. He realized, "this is going to be work". Networking is Everything: Bryan highlights that networking is your "most important tool". It's about building genuine, "give-give" relationships, not just "taking" to get a job. Expand Your Network: While fellow veterans are always supportive, Bryan focused on meeting people who served long ago and are now in positions to help, as well as individuals who never served. Embrace Humility and Curiosity: Approach networking with "childlike wonder," an open mind, and humility. Be willing to learn from everyone, even younger professionals with different experiences. Master "Do" Questions: Instead of "yes/no" questions, ask "How do you, Why do you, Where do you, What do you" to truly learn. At the end, always ask, "What can I do for you?" Show, Don't Just Tell Your Value: Bryan's experience demonstrated that having good conversations can effectively showcase his value, making resumes less crucial initially. The company that hired him might not have even seen his resume before making an offer. Relationships Open Doors: Strong relationships can lead to unexpected opportunities like advisory board work, consulting, and partnerships, even after securing a full-time role. Bryan even gained the personal cell number of a managing partner at a $93 billion venture capital firm through networking. Overcoming Networking Anxiety:  Bryan advises, "Some will, some won't, so what?...next." Understand that the corporate world respects and expects people to reach out, unlike the military hierarchy. Civilians often understand military value more than veterans realize. The Role of the Resume: Bryan found his general networking resume to be an "intellectual exercise," helping him quickly pivot and tailor his "elevator pitch" to different conversations. It's for your own clarity, not necessarily for handing out. The Commit Foundation was instrumental in developing his resume and provided an executive coach. Negotiation Insights: "Pretty much everything's negotiable."  Understand Your True Value Don't Be Afraid to Counter Research is Key The Civilian World Differs: Unlike the military, where things are "made by committee," the civilian world has many who can fire you, accountability is tied to profit and loss, and there's less "rounding up" for mistakes. Final Thoughts & Fun Fact: Bryan stresses the importance of reaching out to your seminar hosts, as Michele and Cyndi genuinely mean it when they offer continued support and relationship building. As a fun fact, Bryan enjoys reading Warhammer 40k sci-fi novels and tries to code an hour a week to stay relevant, reflecting his belief that "humans who know how to use AI are going to replace humans who do not know how to use AI". Connect with Bryan Eovito: Bryan has a wealth of knowledge and is happy to connect. Support our team and the team at Valor and Honor Outdoors with a donation

Welcome to a special episode of Tactical Transition, where your hosts Cyndi Po and Michele Lewis sit down with a remarkable guest, Adam Pettus. Adam, a recently retired Navy Lieutenant Commander, offers incredibly fresh and candid insights into the military transition process, having just completed his second week in a new civilian role. Adam's journey is a testament to perseverance and adaptability, drawing on 23 years of distinguished service in the Navy as a career intelligence, information warfare, and cryptological warfare professional. He retired in May after serving as the targeting and command and control programs lead for the CNO digital warfare office and has since joined Collins Aerospace RTX as an Associate Director for Growth Initiatives. Here are some key takeaways from our insightful conversation with Adam: Gratitude for Guidance: Adam expresses profound gratitude for the "whole bushel full of oysters full of pearls" he gained from Cyndi and Michele's seminar, noting he applied them diligently to his transition journey and found immense value in their continued support. Transition is an Ongoing Process: Adam emphasized that his transition is "still right in the very middle of it," asserting that it's unrealistic to expect it to be over just because employment is secured. He views it as a continuous adjustment, especially after 23 years in a specific mindset. New Realities & Flexibility: He shared that his new role, while stable, offers less personal schedule flexibility than his military career, posing "significant challenges" for family life. However, his prior military experience taught him to adapt by expending initial energy to learn, then becoming more productive with less effort. Combating Impostor Syndrome: Michele highlighted that the feelings of inadequacy Adam described are typical for anyone starting a new job, though it's an "additional component to the military transition" due to the multiple layers of loss service members experience simultaneously, including identity and corporate culture changes. Embracing Optimism Amidst Setbacks: Adam stressed the importance of maintaining "a degree of faith and optimism" despite setbacks, like a particularly challenging interview. He advised reflecting, absorbing what's necessary, and "let go of the rest" of the negativity. Surprises of Transition: Inherent Loneliness: Adam found that "loneliness is inherent within this process," even with support structures, as the responsibility for employment and family provision rests squarely on the individual. Self-Care is Key: He countered this by prioritizing self-care, frequenting the gym six days a week to "complete the stress cycle" and maintain physical and emotional well-being. Unexpected Supporters: A surprising discovery was that his biggest advocates and coaches were people he met within four months of his transition, rather than his existing long-term network, demonstrating that "networks aren't always friends" and can come from unexpected places. "Safety" Positions May Not Pan Out: His planned "safety" job contingencies, where he was exceptionally qualified, "not a single one of those panned out". This highlighted the "recency bias" of hiring managers, who primarily focus on your most recent experience. Exploiting Recent Experience: Adam learned to mitigate this bias by presenting his skills competency-focused, and to "exploit" his most recent experience, which ultimately led him to an "opportunity [that] was so good that I would be a damn fool not to take it". His current role came about partly through the positive influence of colleagues who had also been offered the position. Gratitude and Serendipity: Adam concluded by expressing deep gratitude for how things unfolded, acknowledging the struggles many others face in today's challenging environment, and offering his support to fellow transitioning service members. Don't miss out on Adam's unique and personal perspective on navigating the complexities of post-military life! We were also thrilled to learn some fun facts about Adam, including his passion for archiving and digitizing movies in his 40-unit server rack and his love for cooking, especially baked goods from scratch like classic New York cheesecake! Connect with Adam on LinkedIn

Welcome to another insightful episode of Tactical Transition! Guest Nick Salo joins hosts Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po to discuss the impactful work of Valor and Honor Outdoors (VHO). Introducing Valor and Honor Outdoors (VHO): Michele introduces Nick Salo, a fifth-generation outdoorsman, husband, father, and veteran Army Ranger with two decades of service, including 18 years in special operations. Nick, who transitioned from a VHO participant to its Events Director, explains VHO's mission: "to honor and support those who serve and have served by providing awesome and exceptional outdoor experiences that foster physical and mental well-being, strengthen family bonds, create lasting memories". VHO offers diverse outdoor activities from hunting and fishing to scuba diving and parachuting, aiming to help participants reset mentally and be reinvigorated. Their goal is to "be part of the healing" process, addressing the "headspace" of active duty personnel, first responders, and veterans. A Unique Approach to Healing: Michele highlights VHO's non-traditional approach, noting that there's "no requirement for the participant to share their feelings or to give their... bonafides," humorously summarized as "no butt sniffing required". Nick explains that the power lies in changing the environment to allow individuals to reconnect with a new, non-judgmental peer group. VHO "seek[s] to create the environment of the team room or the locker room or that squad bay that... you didn't have to hold back," allowing for authentic connection and support. This holistic approach extends to families, recognizing their silent burdens and providing opportunities for them to heal and reconnect as well. Nick's Personal Journey and the Power of Connection: Nick shares his experience, contrasting a prior "assembly line" veteran event with his profoundly positive first VHO duck hunting trip. He was welcomed without judgment, loaned equipment, and instantly felt a strong connection, which led to a "smile on [his] face" and "a little bit more pep in [his] step." His involvement with VHO was also a strategic part of his military transition, helping him maintain his identity and connection to the military community, underscoring the idea that "you don't miss the circus, but you miss the clowns." Michele shares a poignant story about a young pitcher she hosted who, due to injury, ended up on the US Olympic bobsled team, illustrating that "the detour is the road". How You Can Get Involved:      Participants: Service members, veterans, and first responders can sign up via www.valorhonoroutdoors.com to attend over 150 events annually across 14 states.      Volunteers: VHO welcomes individuals of all skill levels, from experienced guides to those who want to "flip burgers" or help with logistics.      Donors & Sponsors: As a 100% volunteer-run 501(c)(3) organization, VHO relies on donations. It costs approximately "$1,000 per person" to cover expenses like travel, lodging, licenses, and equipment for participants.      In-Kind Donations: Equipment from firearms to fishing gear is greatly appreciated.      Land Access: Donating or offering discounted use of land for hunting, fishing, or camping is crucial, as it's a significant expense. Michele assures listeners that donated land is treated with the "highest regard and respect." Cyndi and Michele express their excitement and confidence in partnering with VHO, as the organization's focus on self-care and life balance aligns perfectly with Tactical Transition's emphasis on pre-career change. Donate: Pathrinders Horizon Collaboration Project Your donation supports both VHO and 374 Consultants in our efforts to enrich the lives of our service members.

Welcome to Tactical Transition! Hosts Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po chat with returning guest Mike Hudson, Strategic Account Manager for Schneider Electric Federal, about his successful military transition. Mike, who retired from the Army in September 2024 after serving predominantly in special operations and intelligence, now works for Schneider Electric Federal, a global Fortune 500 company in power and distributed energy. He stumbled into this role through a friend, initially aiming for a career in financial services. Mike found profound purpose, stating, "Is this a place that I can be where I can contribute back to the mission and do it in a way that makes the world a little bit better, like yes, oh, and the people are awesome, like it's a no-brainer". He emphasizes that his work allows him to impact "entire installations or entire like combatant commands". Mike offers vital insights for those in transition: Networking is paramount: "The resume gets you the interview, but the interview and the context are more about whether this is the right fit for me versus whether I am the right fit for them? And that was so, I mean, and you only found that through your network, too. I think that's right 100%." Remember basic principles: "Be on time, right place, right time, right uniform," "identify opportunities to help out to improve, leave it better than you found it," and "if you need help, ask for it." Embrace potential: Just like in special operations, focus on "potential to be coachable and learn, and then you know be consistent". He admits, "I don't know anything about electricity." "Don't Overthink It": Mike urges veterans not to complicate the transition. Focus on daily well-being: "Am I okay today? And can I do this job for another day, or another week, or another month? Are these people I'm working with good people? Like just keep it as simple as possible". Despite a low veteran ratio on his immediate team, Mike feels highly respected and connected to Schneider's mission. The company has an "incredible veterans employee resource network" (VERG) led by Peter Schul, offering unique benefits like additional leave for military families affected by PCS or activation. Schneider boasts exceptionally low turnover and values a "best athlete mentality". Michele and Cyndi highlight Mike's resilience and confidence gained. His "testimony" provides invaluable mentorship for others navigating transition. Connect with Mike on LinkedIn

Hello everyone, and welcome to the show notes summary for this insightful episode of Tactical Transition! Cyndi Po hosted this episode solo, joined by returning guest Brady Wentlandt, a true wealth of information for military members navigating their post-service journey. This episode's sponsor, Vet Mentor AI, a veteran-owned platform founded in 2024 by Marine Corps veteran Paul Helinski, helps veterans simplify and enhance access to VA disability benefits, aiming to eliminate "claim sharks." Listeners can get $50 off yearly access using the code "ESELSeminars". Brady, who retired from the Marine Corps in 2021 after 28.5 years and now serves as VP of Business Development for Viderity Inc., shared his invaluable list of transition tips. This list was refined after attending Cyndi and Michele's transition class, which he found "so much more succinct" than other mandatory programs. Born from personal experience and spiritual inspiration, his goal is to help others, emphasizing the importance of mentorship and "paying it forward". Here are the key points from Brady's impactful list: The Elevator Pitch / Professional Introduction: Brady stressed that "Being able to deliver that is vitally important". Military members often find it challenging to talk about themselves, a shift from focusing on the mission to communicating their value. He advises practicing consistently to make it organic, focusing on being personable rather than robotic, and clearly conveying your worth, understanding that "the amount of practice to make it perfect has to be put in." Knowing your audience is key when referencing your military background. Knowing Your Value/Worth: Translating Military Compensation into Civilian Monetary Value Is Difficult. Brady learned through his network that worth is determined by "what you're doing, where you're doing it, and understanding the left and right lateral limits of that pay for that position at that location". He recommends resources such as Salary, Glassdoor, and Recruit. He advises against settling, noting that "Companies want to get employees, the best employees for the cheapest price, right? I would like you to get the best company at your best price". Volunteering: While fantastic and "good for the soul," Brady cautions against over-investing in volunteering, as "it doesn't pay the bills." He suggests picking "two or three" organizations and thoughtfully considering the time and energy committed to maintain balance. VA Disability Process: Many service members mistakenly "forego the VA disability process," often hiding injuries to pursue promotions. Brady highlights the critical role of a veteran services officer (VSO) in advocacy, calling his VSO, Alshi Williams, a "difference maker." Cyndi underscored that the VA claim is part of the government's contract to care for veterans, including the "physical and mental toll". He also advised involving your spouse, as they often notice issues you might miss. Survivor's Benefit Plan (SBP) vs. Term Life Insurance: Consider term life insurance as an alternative to SBP, especially for those with long life expectancies and minimal debt. Brady and his wife chose a more affordable 20-year term policy with a substantial payout. He offers a crucial tip: acquire term life insurance before retiring and before claiming any VA disability benefits, as medical issues could impact your eligibility or increase the cost. The Resume - Military vs. Civilian: While many recommend removing military lingo, Brady found that some companies specifically "wanted that military resume." He advises keeping a "green military resume" alongside a civilianized version, as having both can be highly beneficial. Integration of LinkedIn: Brady advocates for an "aggressive stance" on LinkedIn, sending numerous connection requests and posting regularly. He secured his first post-military job through a "viral" LinkedIn post. He emphasized that self-marketing, although initially feeling "slimy," is "just part of the transition." Cyndi rephrased this as "you're not out there asking for something. You're out there offering something," bringing your invaluable skills to a company. Brady's overarching message is to "Work that transition, work all those steps. Work them early, work them often, and reach out to somebody if you have questions. You don't need to figure it out on your own." Just like a seasoned hiker navigating a new trail, you don't have to blaze the path alone; there are many experienced guides and well-trodden routes (and tools like LinkedIn) to help you reach your destination successfully. Reach out to Brady on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brady-wentlandt/ Sign up for Vet Mentor AI to assist with VA Disability Claims: https://www.vetmentorai.com/ - Use code ESELSEMINARS to receive $50 off the year access.

Hello everyone and welcome to the show notes for another insightful episode of Tactical Transition! Hosts Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po kicked off the podcast with their usual friendly banter, emphasizing their excitement for the conversation ahead. The episode began by highlighting their sponsor, Vet Mentor AI, a veteran-founded platform established in 2024 by Marine Corps veteran Paul Hylenski. This AI-driven tool simplifies and enhances the process of accessing VA disability benefits, born from Hylenski’s personal challenges with denied claims. Listeners are encouraged to check out the Vet Mentor AI YouTube channel for success stories and can save $50 off yearly access using the code "ESELSeminars". Michele and Cyndi stressed that they only endorse products they truly believe in. Michele shared that she was feeling refreshed after a 10-day vacation in the British Virgin Islands, underscoring the importance of planning vacations for transitioning service members to refresh and catch their breath. Cyndi then introduced their special guest, John Dailey, a Marine Corps veteran with over 20 years of service, much of it in special operations with tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. John received his MFA in creative writing in 2018 and shares his views through a weekly newsletter called "Walking Point" and thoughts on mental toughness at RTFU (Ruck the f up). His website is jadaiely.com. Cyndi recounted a serendipitous meeting with John at Soft Week, where she recognized his name from a book she had recently ordered after asking AI for recommendations on books by soft community members. John’s book, "Tough Rugged Bastards: A Memoir of a Life in Marine Special Operations", was the very one. Key points from the conversation with John Dailey included: The Therapeutic Power of Writing: John explained that writing was a natural path for him, and he strongly advocates for veterans to write, regardless of publication intent. He emphasized that "just sitting down and writing because you are taking what's in your head and getting it out of your head" can be wildly beneficial, especially for processing traumatic events. He mentioned the Lethal Minds Journal as a user-friendly platform for veterans to get their work published. Finding Purpose Post-Military: The discussion deeply explored the challenge of transitioning from military service and finding new purpose. John noted that while financial gain is often a motivator, many veterans later realize they lack the purpose they once had. Michele and Cyndi echoed this, highlighting how their transition classes address the "shock value" of civilian life and encourage attendees to find new impact and meaning. John's Delayed Transition: John shared that his own transition was delayed as he continued in a similar role within the Marine Special Operations Command. He gradually realized his new role was more about mentorship, which he now loves, drawing on his experiences with various life challenges. The Origins of His Marine Path: John recounted a pivotal moment at a 1976 Bicentennial parade at age seven or eight in Persville, Virginia, where he saw a Marine in uniform and instantly knew that was what he wanted to do. This story sets a strong foundation for his memoir. Humor and Impostor Syndrome in Writing: John intentionally infused humor into his book, recognizing its importance in connecting with readers and providing necessary breaks from heavy topics. He also discussed Impostor Syndrome, a common feeling among service members that he felt compelled to address. Michele shared that this resonated deeply with their transition class attendees, especially senior leaders, who often feel they lack transferrable skills despite their immense value to civilian employers. John views impostor syndrome positively, as it pushed him to "get better". Value of Veteran Skills: John highlighted that retired service members bring invaluable, often intangible, skills to organizations, such as the ability to coach, counsel, be punctual, and solve problems systematically. Family Perspective: Michele shared a personal anecdote about the challenges military spouses face. John acknowledged his wife Tracy's perspective on his book, noting she learned details she hadn't known before. He underscored the immense challenges families face back home, often without direct knowledge of the realities faced by their deployed loved ones. He praised the close-knit community support within special operations units for families. Future Endeavors: John is outlining a new book based on his "Walking Point" newsletter, focusing on leadership and personal growth, and potentially another from his "Ruck the F Up" writings. Fun Fact – Travel: As a fun fact, John shared that he and his wife Tracy have embraced extensive international travel since her retirement as a school teacher, seeing it as a valuable opportunity to gain new perspectives and appreciate their lives. The episode concluded with Cyndi and Michele highly recommending John’s book, emphasizing its value for transitioning service members, offering both relatable experiences and mentorship. They encouraged listeners to connect with John and utilize networking opportunities. John Dailey LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daileyja/ Website: jadaiely.com

Hello and welcome to another episode of Tactical Transition with your hosts Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po. In this episode, Michele and Cyndi chat with Mike Hudson, a speaker from a recent ESEL seminar. Mike Hudson is a retired Lieutenant Colonel who now serves as the Strategic Account Manager for the Intelligence and Special Operations community at Schneider Electric Federal. Mike shares insights from his extensive military career, including graduating from the Citadel, serving as an Infantry Officer in Iraq during the first elections, serving with the Old Guard and planning state funerals, branching into Military Intelligence, deploying with the 160th SOAR, attending Ranger assessment, and serving as the RS2 for the 75th Ranger Regiment where he helped design the Ranger Regiment MI Battalion. His bio is impressive, but Michele and Cyndi highlight his personable nature. The conversation focuses on Mike's military transition experience, which he describes as overwhelming and like a full-time job. He felt lost, initially only knowing what he didn't want to do (deploying, being away from family, struggling to find help). Mike shares that he felt he didn't have friends or know who to turn to because his military identity was so tied to his relationships. Cyndi notes that this feeling of loneliness is a common perception for transitioning service members, even if the reality is different. Mike meticulously planned his transition, creating timelines and checklists, but couldn't anticipate the sheer volume of tasks or the sense of isolation. He found networking difficult at first, feeling inauthentic because he didn't know how to "be himself" in the civilian world. Attending a transition program like ESEL opened his eyes to the process being about finding a new identity and lifestyle, not just getting a job. A turning point for Mike came after applying to many jobs, when he realized he didn't have to accept compromises (like a 4-hour daily commute) that he would have readily accepted in the military. Saying "no" to that job offer was liberating and brought a sense of peace and confidence in where he was in the moment, even without a clear final plan. This reinforced that understanding what you don't want is a crucial first step in transition. Key takeaways and advice from Mike for other transitioning service members include: Accept that transition affects every facet of your life, including your identity. Recognize that it will hit you in unexpected ways; when it does, stop, take a deep breath, be in the moment, and acknowledge it. Give yourself space to deal with these feelings. Let go of the mentality that your value is tied to hours worked or being indispensable; the military will move on, and that's okay. Seek out structure and accountability through transition programs. Be genuine and vulnerable in building relationships. Former military members are often eager to help, understanding the unique challenges. Relationship building is less transactional than some military interactions. As in Ranger School, "Don't give up and help your buddy out". Be open and honest with your significant other about your struggles; Mike credits his wife, Annie, with keeping him grounded. Remember to rediscover your personal identity and hobbies from before your military service, like Mike is doing with the bagpipes. Mike and the hosts emphasize that worry about finding a job is common but misplaced, as transitioning leaders are highly marketable. Building genuine relationships, not just networking, is key to success. Mike will join the podcast again to discuss his current role and how he got there. Connect with Mike Hudson on LinkedIn! His link will be in the show notes. Be sure to subscribe to the Tactical Transition podcast and explore previous episodes to hear from other guests who want to help you with your transition. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-hudson-mba/  

Welcome back to the Tactical Transition podcast! In this exciting episode, hosts Cyndi Po and Michele Lewis welcome their first sponsor, Vet Mentor AI, founded by Marine veteran Paul Hylenski. Paul, an aerospace manufacturing leader, author, and TEDx speaker, created the platform after his personal struggles with denied VA disability claims. Vet Mentor AI is an AI-powered platform designed to simplify and enhance the process of accessing VA disability benefits. It aims to solve real-world problems with cutting-edge technology, bridging military discipline, business innovation, and AI transformation. The platform streamlines and optimizes veterans' claims by leveraging AI to tailor applications according to VA standards, drawing information from complex documents like the CFR and M21 manual. Key aspects and tools discussed include: The VA claim as an earned benefit: Michele and Cyndi emphasize that VA claims are "something earned, not something given". It's the government making good on its contract with service members and their families. Overcoming Complexity: The VA system is difficult to navigate, often requiring veterans to interpret complex legal documents. Vet Mentor AI acts as an expert, allowing veterans to be "as smart as the smartest VSO. and the smartest lawyer" when filing their own claim. The Kuza Triangle: Paul explains that VA claims legally require proving three elements: 1) a current and relevant diagnosis, 2) a nexus to service, and 3) an inservice event or impact to your work or life. Vet Mentor AI helps veterans structure their claims to meet these requirements, even proving the case utilizing the Kuza triangle in the background. The Claim Optimizer: This crucial tool grades a veteran's claim (1-10) before submission based on how the VA would rate it. It provides specific, simple steps to improve the claim, telling veterans exactly what to focus on, including in their CNP exam. This significantly reduces the chances of denial and wait time. The Nexus Statement Generator: To combat expensive "nexus farms," Vet Mentor AI's tool scrapes the internet for relevant medical studies and writes a draft nexus letter for the veteran's doctor, using legally buffered language like "at least as likely as not" to ease doctor concerns. This helps veterans get nexus statements affordably. Personal Statements: Using VA form 4138 Bravo is vital, especially without extensive medical evidence, to prove the in-service event and how the disability impacts daily life. Addressing Denied Claims: The platform helps veterans understand why a claim was denied and provides a customized strategy for supplemental claims or higher-level reviews. AI can even identify if the VA made a mistake in the denial. Supporting VSOs: Vet Mentor AI aims to level the playing field for VSOs and veteran organizations, providing tools that can 10x their efficiency and ensure a consistent standard of service for veterans. Mission to Eliminate Waste and Exploitation: Paul is passionate about ending the cycle of veterans being exploited by "claim sharks" charging exorbitant fees. The platform offers an affordable, effective alternative. Impact and Hope: Reducing the wait time from months to potentially weeks by submitting optimized claims can reduce the VA backlog, save money, and most importantly, provide hope to veterans, potentially impacting suicide and homelessness rates. Vet Mentor AI offers monthly ($20) and yearly ($150) plans. The yearly plan includes advanced tools like a doctor avatar for practicing CNP exams, a denied claims assistant, a free resume builder, and a career coach to assist with transition aspects like job interviews and relocation. Listeners of the Tactical Transition podcast can get the yearly access for $100 by using the coupon code ESELSEMINARS at checkout. This coupon also gives back a portion to the podcast team to help them continue their mission. Paul's mission is driven by passion and knowledge, focusing on the benefit veterans have earned. He shares a fun fact about himself: He is a certified private pilot and once owned a 1963 Cessna. Connect with Paul Hylenski and learn more by checking out the links to Vet Mentor AI, his LinkedIn Profile, and YouTube channel.

Welcome to the Tactical Transition show notes! In this episode, your hosts Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po are joined by their friend and mentor, Dan Mazzuca. Dan is a highly experienced expert dedicated to supporting transitioning service members, with an impressive 47 years supporting the DoD. This includes 26 years on active Air Force duty and 14 years as a Department of Air Force civilian. Michele Lewis shares that working under Dan Mazzuca's high standards while he managed the Transition Assistance Program (TAP) pushed her and Cyndi Po to "step up our game." This pursuit of excellence became the "spark that drove Cyndi and me to branch out" and create their own resources, knowing that more and better information was needed. Dan Mazzuca explains his motivation stemmed from his own challenging transition in 2003 when TAP was less developed. He felt strongly that "we owed it to those who defended our country to provide them with the best." Here are some key takeaways from their insightful conversation: Networking is crucial. Dan Mazzuca landed his job at Lockheed Martin through networking after military retirement and saw many peers struggle without it. Companies should proactively value and retain star employees. Dan Mazzuca advises against waiting until an employee gives notice, stating, "The worst time for you to practice retention is when somebody gives notice." Find a job that fulfills your "heart" and "pocketbook". Dan Mazzuca took a significant pay cut, leaving Lockheed Martin for his "dream job" of running the TAP program because it filled his heart. Don't be afraid to make a career switch, even later in life. Address the hesitation to leave the DoD space. Service members must recognize their transferable skills apply to many non-defense jobs. An Army Artillery Lieutenant Colonel successfully transitioned to a Director of Operations role in a civilian company by focusing on leadership abilities, proving you can transition "totally outside His comfort zone." Navigate the challenge of over or undervaluing experience. Dan Mazzuca observed senior leaders sometimes expect C-suite roles immediately or aim too low at mid-level management despite having director-level skills. While C-suite roles often require industry experience, senior leaders often retire young enough to work towards them. Leverage mentorship. Connecting with veterans already in your desired field provides invaluable guidance. Examples included a command chief becoming a town supervisor with a veteran mentor's help and a base commander getting a high-level job through networking after taking a break. Understand and navigate Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS). ATS uses AI to screen resumes before they reach a human. Tailor your resume to the job description. Using a generic resume is a common mistake; employers "plead" for applicants to match their resume to the job ad. Utilize AI-powered tools like Job Scan and Skill Syncer. These websites compare your resume to a job description to identify missing keywords and help optimize for ATS. Skill Syncer offers one year of free premium access for veterans, active duty military, and military spouses. As Dan Mazzuca quotes, "AI will not replace people, but people who can use AI will replace people who cannot use AI." Build your "employment toolbox." A resume is not enough. Success requires networking, strong interview skills, negotiation skills, an optimized LinkedIn profile, and potentially joining professional organizations. Dan Mazzuca also mentions his LinkedIn blog, "Coach's Corner," where he shares transition advice. He is always available to help veterans find resources. The hosts express their gratitude, and Dan Mazzuca calls Michele Lewis and Cyndi Po his "two favorites in the labor and employment space." Michele Lewis emphasizes their mission: "to make sure that when they step out of the service, they have a strong foundation." Dan Mazzuca's contact information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danmazzuca/

Welcome to our inaugural episode of the Tactical Transition podcast for 2025! At every executive class, we emphasize that Networking is one of the most vital tools in your transition toolbox. But what exactly is the purpose of networking? It’s all about discovering opportunities that align with your expertise and qualifications. A key aspect of networking often involves one simple request: a resume. As we dive into the new year, we’re focusing our first episode on the crucial topic of resumes. What content will you place in the hands of your network, what will they do with it, and why is it so important? Join us as we explore the fundamentals of Executive Resumes, discussing what they should look like, what information they need to include, and valuable resources to help you create a standout document. Don’t miss this opportunity to enhance your professional journey! Be sure to follow and subscribe on our website at www.eselseminars.com. Follow us on Linkedin. Connect with us on LinkedIn: Cyndi Po & Michele Lewis

As we close out 2024, join Michele and Cyndi as they discuss what the past year has brought and what the new year will bring.  Remember to subscribe to the podcast and connect with Cyndi Po and Michele Lewis on LinkedIn.

Join Executive Career Coaches Michele Lewis & Cyndi Po as we discuss "Dealing with Imposter Syndrome." Definition of imposter syndrome: Imposter syndrome is the psychological experience of feeling like a fake or a phony despite any genuine success you have achieved.  According to researcher Dr. Valerie Young, there are five impostor types: The Perfectionist. This type of imposter syndrome involves believing that, unless you were absolutely perfect, you could have done better. You feel like an imposter because your perfectionistic traits make you believe that you're not as good as others might think you are. The Expert. The expert feels like an imposter because they don't know everything there is to know about a particular subject or topic, or they haven't mastered every step in a process. Because there is more for them to learn, they don't feel as if they've reached the rank of "expert." The Natural Genius. In this imposter syndrome type, you may feel like a fraud simply because you don't believe that you are naturally intelligent or competent. If you don't get something right the first time around or it takes you longer to master a skill, you feel like an imposter. The Soloist. It's also possible to feel like an imposter if you had to ask for help to reach a certain level or status. Since you couldn't get there on your own, you question your competence or abilities. The Superperson. This type of imposter syndrome involves believing that you must be the hardest worker or reach the highest levels of achieve. So let's talk about how this relates to our transitioning service members.

Please join us in welcoming Paul Steketee Paul Steketee is the son of a Christian missionary family and was raised in Cote d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast), west Africa. He graduated from The Citadel in 2003 with a Bachelor of Science in Education. He was commissioned into the United States Marine Corps in May 2003 through the Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps Program. After completing The Basic School and adjutant course, he served as the Senior Military Manpower Officer for the 1st Battalion, 8th Marines, Second Marine Division. Paul’s military experience in the Fleet Marine Forces includes combat operations in Fallujah, Iraq, as a part of Operation Iraqi Freedom 2004-2005, humanitarian and disaster relief in September 2005 to Mississippi and Louisiana following Hurricane Katrina, and a Marine Expeditionary Unit (Special Operations Capable) deployment in 2005-2006 as a part of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU (SOC)). During the 24th MEU (SOC) deployment, Battalion Landing Team 1/8 conducted noncombatant evacuation operations off the coast of Beirut, Lebanon, bilateral training in Pakistan and Jordan, and theater support to Operation Iraqi Freedom. Paul Steketee also served as the manpower officer and deputy director manpower directorate, 2d Marine Logistics Group, during 2011-2012 in Afghanistan as a part of Operation Enduring Freedom. From the I Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF) manpower and operations plans section, he deployed in 2018 as the deputy commander (second in command), Task Force Al-Asad, the Combined Joint Task Force - Iraq brigade headquarters, regional targeting center for northern Al Anbar province and the advisory group to the 7th and 8th Iraqi Security Force Divisions. His supporting establishment and Headquarters Marine Corps tours include second in command ofthe Navy and Marine Corps Appellate Leave Activity, Washington Navy Yard, D.C from 2007-2010, operations officer and faculty advisor, Personnel Administration School, Camp Johnson,North Carolina, from 2012-2014, Director Manpower Management, Marine Barracks Washington,D.C., from 2014-2017, and Chief of Staff, Human Capital Management Directorate, TrainingCommand from 2019-2021. He culminated his 21-year military career as the second in command,Marine Barracks Washington, D.C., in March 2024. Paul is married to Gretchen Scarbrough of Augusta, G.A. They have three children: Joel, Sarah, andAnnie, and a lively yellow labrador, Essie. In his free time, Paul coaches little league baseball andsoccer, hunts, and mentors transitioning service members as they join the private sector. He is agraduate of Expeditionary Warfare School (non-resident), the Manpower Officer Course, and MarineCorps Command & Staff College (Non-Resident). He also has a master’s in business administration– Strategic Leadership from New England College and serves as a board member for OperationSecond Chance – a non-profit that helps combat wounded veterans and their families. Since leavingactive duty, Paul created a single-proprietor LLC specializing in business development and strategicplanning for multiple clients. Connect with Paul on LinkedIn

Join us as we have a discussion with the founder of The Catalyst, Daniel Hance as we talk about the importance of, not just networking, but building professional relationships, in turn creating an investment mindset.   Daniel is a seasoned leader with 17 years of service in the U.S. Army, both as an enlisted soldier and an officer. After transitioning from the military, he built a successful career in the corporate sector, working with industry leaders such as Walmart and General Electric, as well as contributing to a veteran-focused nonprofit in Cincinnati. In May 2017, recognizing a gap in resources for veterans, Daniel made the bold decision to leave business school and launch The Catalyst, a venture dedicated to empowering veterans.  The Catalyst is a unique program for military Veterans that provides a holistic approach to the military transition that centers around the individual.   Enjoy this podcast while you learn more about Daniel Hance, The Catalyst and how this program can serve as a resource as you transition from the military.    Take a look at their website and connect: https://thecatalystprogram.org/ Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-hance-97237931/

We are so pleased to introduce Charley Yancey. Charley is a retired Marine Corps MSgt who loves assisting transition service members to understand how valuable their skills are to the civilian community. For the past 5 years, Charley has managed one of the most attentive Marine Corps Transition Offices and now works in Transition policy for the Air Force. Join us as Charley shares her wisdom on Skillbridge, the advantage of promoting your skillsets in the civilian sector, and comparing your first civilian job to the 1st pancake. To connect with Charley, meet her on Linkedin and tell her ESEL sent you! https://www.linkedin.com/in/charleyyancey/

Our guest on this episode is Ken Feiereisen. Ken was an active-duty soldier with 22 years of service. He started his career as a cavalry scout, deploying to Iraq twice (03-04 and 07-09). After his second deployment, he became a recruiter and finished his career assigned to USASOC. Ken successfully retired from the Army and became a Program Manager for Onward Ops, a nonprofit that assists soldiers in transitioning out of the service. In this episode, Ken will offer advice based on his transition experience and work with Onward Ops to create an effective and accurate timeline for the transitioning service member. Important subjects like home loans, retired IDs, and life insurance purchases will be the hot topics today. Connect with Ken on LinkedIn or email Ken at [email protected] Learn more about the program with Onward Ops by visiting their website.

Colonel (Retired) Michael S Musso served in the Army for 28 years. Retired in October 2017. He and his wife, Samantha, grew up in the New Orleans, LA, area and met at the University of New Orleans. Michael's military journey began as a rifle platoon leader, leading combat operations in Operation Desert Shield and Storm, a testament to his leadership and dedication. He also commanded infantry units at Fort Campbell, KY. He served in various combat and staff positions throughout his career, including presence at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, and later deployed to Baghdad with the 1st Cavalry Division in 2006-2007. He went on to work for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and Secretary of Defense before retiring from his last position working for the Army Chief of Staff. Michael's commitment to learning and growth is evident in his educational achievements. He holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Business Administration and two Masters degrees, one in Organizational Leadership from Chapman University and another in National Resource Strategy from the Eisenhower School for National Security and Resource Strategy. He is also a former Chief of Staff of the Army Senior Fellow at the Kellogg School of Management, Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. After retiring from the Army, Michael transitioned to a new role as the General Manager of Laitram Machine Shop, one of four manufacturing and operating divisions within the Laitram Corporation. His work involved overseeing the production of conveyor systems for global companies like Amazon, FedEx, Tyson Chicken, and the US Postal Service. After nearly 6 years in this position, Michael resigned to be more present at home, travel with Samantha, and pursue other opportunities. He is now a travel advisor. Samantha is a recovering attorney and founder of New Destinations Travel, LLC. Michael and Samantha have been married for nearly 34 years and have two sons, Ryan, an Army Medic and Staff Sergeant, and Nathan, a venture capitalist. They live in Bush, LA, north of New Orleans. Connect with Michael on LinkedIn. Michael supports “Hogs for the Cause.” Learn more about this organization at https://hogsforthecause.org/

In this week’s episode of Tactical Transition, we will discuss the most important tool in your career search toolbox - Networking. Statistics show that over 75% of job openings are not posted on job boards or “easy to access” spaces. Relying on networks to find these positions is vital. We will debunk misconceptions about networking, emphasizing the creation of opportunities and mutual benefits. Let’s delve into the value of communication, leveraging platforms like LinkedIn, and engaging in informational interviews. We will also highlight the importance of continuous networking for finding jobs, professional growth, and mentorship. Networks are people you already know, people you should know, people that people you know know, and people you want to know. LinkedIn can be a great tool for networking, especially if you are trying to connect with people in certain companies or positions you do not know. Be sure to follow and subscribe on our website at eselsemiars.com. Follow us on Linkedin. Cyndi Po LinkedIn Michele Lewis LinkedIn

In this week’s episode of Tactical Transition, we will discuss the importance of having an intriguing and appropriate professional introduction. This is often called the “elevator pitch.” Whether it is a networking situation, meeting a new person, or that inevitable question, “Tell me about yourself,” being able to tell a person who you are and what you bring to the table is key to making the best first impression. And as the saying goes, you don’t get a second chance to make a good first impression. We will discuss the do’s and don’ts and the “why” of the professional introduction for networking and job search. Be sure to follow and subscribe on our website at eselsemiars.com. Follow us on Linkedin.

We are honored to have as our guest on today’s show, Lt. Col (Retired) Mark Paolicelli. We will discuss his military-to-civilian transition and words of wisdom for those who are currently making this journey. His keen ability to find just the right analogy will not only entertain but put into perspective what is truly important to focus on during your transition. A native of Pittsburgh, PA, Mark Paolicelli retired from the U.S. Marine Corps as a Lieutenant Colonel in 2022 after serving over 29 years. Mark began his Marine Corps career by enlisting in the reserves in 1993 and served as a Machine Gunner until 1996. He received his commission upon graduating from Norwich University in 1996 with a BA in Criminal Justice. Mark became a field artillery officer and later a Joint Terminal Attack Controller and deployed seven times during his career with multiple combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. He served in various roles and assignments during his Marine Corps career, most notably as a Congressional Fellow for Senator Jack Reed and his final assignment as the Deputy Commander for Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall. Mark is an avid hockey player and started playing ice hockey at the ripe age of 38. He continues to serve veterans as the Vice Chairman of the Arlington County Military and Veterans Affairs committee. He currently serves as a defense contractor with Booz Allen Hamilton and resides in Alexandria, Virginia, with his wife, Courtney, their daughter Molly (age 6), and their Goldendoodle, Winston. You can connect with Mark on LinkedIn. Be sure to follow us and subscribe to our website at eselseminars.com for more information on how our team can help you navigate the transition.

Kimberly Lindsay Williams, MA, SPHR, SHRM – SCP Chief Human Resources Officer, City of Jacksonville, North Carolina Founder & Chief Executive Officer, NC4ME, North Carolina for Military Employment Kimberly Williams has over thirty years of experience leading private, public, and nonprofit human resource professionals. Her experience in the private sector includes several large organizations, including Burger King Corporation, where she directed the Human Resource function for the United States. Kimberly’s experience in the public sector and non-profit includes directing the Human Resources function for local government, school division, health care, and workforce housing. Kimberly is currently the Chief Human Resource Officer for the City of Jacksonville, North Carolina. Her passion for assisting military service members began with serving as a volunteer with Virginia Employer Support of the Guard and Reserve (VaESGR) as Regional Chair and later as State Director for their Employment Initiative Program (EIP). She also initiated the Virginia Values Veterans (V-3) program, a statewide initiative to ensure employment of our service men and women. Kimberly has twice been presented the Seven Seals Award for meritorious leadership and initiative supporting the Department of Defense. Additionally, Kimberly received national recognition as a Defense Community Champion 2022 by the Association of Defense Communities. Kimberly founded and is currently leading the North Carolina statewide employment initiative under the Veterans Foundation NC4ME, North Carolina for Military Employment, a comprehensive public-private partnership. Under Kimberly’s leadership, NC4ME was launched by the Governor of North Carolina in March 2015 with a mission to make North Carolina the number one state for military employment. NC4ME is unique in that it is ONE team, including the State Government (The Governor’s Office, the Department of Military and Veterans Affairs, and the Department of Commerce), the NC National Guard, and companies throughout North Carolina, working together to change the military employment climate throughout the State. Kimberly serves as a member of the Governors Working Group for Veterans and their Families and as a member of the Fayetteville State University Board of Visitors. Kimberly received a bachelor's degree from Florida State University and a Master's degree from Regent University. She and her husband, Keith, are the proud parents of two children, Richard, a Physician’s Assistant (PA) in Virginia, and Lindsay, a Staff Sergeant in the U.S. Marine Corps. You can follow Kimberly on LinkedIn or on the website for NC4ME.

This week on Tactical Transition, Executive Career Coaches Cyndi Po & Michele Lewis will discuss the "Informational Interview." What is it? Is it important to do them? Who do I have an informational interview with? What should I ask? If you are a transitioning service member and are looking for ways to find that perfect next career, this podcast is for you. Be sure to check out our website at www.eselseminars.com

Bill Gray, Managing Director at SteerBridge, joins us again to bring insights and inspiration to the transitioning military leaders. In today's episode, Bill will discuss the importance of finding the right fit in your next career. He will share valuable information about the company he is currently working with and inspiring words of encouragement for those struggling with the transition process. We encourage you to connect with Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamcgray/

This week on Tactical Transition, Executive Career Coaches Cyndi Po & Michele Lewis will tackle the important subject of "resumes." If you are a transitioning service member and are concerned about writing the perfect resume, this podcast is for you. Be sure to check out our website at www.eselseminars.com

Transitioning Service Members: From the perspective of a corporate recruiter, you might be wondering: • What does it mean when offers contain language like "contingent," "funded," or "unfunded"? • Is there a way for a veteran to find a company that matches their skills and cultural values? • Do all companies have their unique culture, and is it important to interview the company as much as they are interviewing you? This week, we're excited to welcome Jessica Hermanstorfer, the Senior Talent Acquisition Operations Manager for Eqlipse Technologies, who has been recruiting since 1997. Jessica is an avid supporter of veteran and military spouse hiring and has worked with large and small businesses across the Intelligence Community, DOD, Not-for-Profit Research Organizations, and Healthcare. Throughout her career as a recruiter, Jessica has honed in on understanding compensation as the foundation of hiring. This vital skill set expanded her ability to advance into more complex organizational roles. By 2011, Jessica was the lead HR and TA for a startup organization that supported the US Army and the NSA. There, she learned to focus on building the company's culture, running Human Resources, and growing the corporate team. Towards the end of her tenure with that organization, she led the Veterans and Military Spouse hiring initiatives. Jessica then accepted a position managing the recruiting team at Leidos for their NSA programs. In addition, she built their new business recruiting function supporting all proposals and new awards across all Intelligence Agency proposals. Currently, Jessica is serving with Eqlipse Technologies, helping to lead and build the Talent Acquisition functions of a new company, specifically Eqlipse’s hiring processes, applicant tracking system, candidate experience, and metrics. This week, Jessica shares her perspective regarding what senior recruiters look for and how you can become more attractive to organizations. Connect with Jessica on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicahermanstorfer/

Meet an ESEL Honor Graduate! William (Bill) Gray retired from the Marine Corps in April of this year after 29 years of service. He was a graduate of our Henderson Hall ESEL seminar about a year ago (the week before Thanksgiving of 2022). He joins us to share his stories of how he networked as he was transitioning…so much to the point he didn’t even realize he was in a job interview until the offer hit the table! So, who is Bill Gray, you ask? Bill grew up in the Air Wing as an Aviation Logistics officer. He has been deployed multiple times, including to Kuwait/Iraq for OIF-I and Afghanistan for OEF. As a LtCol, he commanded Marine Aviation Logistics Squadron 31 (MALS-31) in Beaufort, SC, and MALS-40 in Afghanistan. He has had four tours in the Pentagon. Bill has multiple defense acquisition tours, including at the F-35 Joint Program Office. About a third of Bill's career was in Military Recruiting. He commanded Recruiting Station Fort Worth, TX, when he was a major. His first tour as a colonel was as the assistant chief of staff for operations (G3) at Marine Corps Recruiting Command. He commanded the 6th Marine Corps District as a colonel where his Marines in the southeast and Puerto Rico were responsible for about 1/6th of the total Marine Corps officer and enlisted accession mission. His last job on active duty was as the chief of staff for the Europe/NATO/Russia branch within the J5 on the Joint Staff. His favorite line in his bio is: "He will celebrate his 30th wedding anniversary to his wife, the former Deborah Kelly, in December of this year (and they still like each other!!)." Join us as we talk and have a laugh or two with Bill while he serves as a proof source to our ESEL seminars and shows you, the transitioning service member, that the grass is greener on the other side. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamcgray/

Join us as we speak with COL(R) George Lewis, who compares “landing your next career” to a PLF landing learned through Airborne School.   George Lewis enlisted in the Army in 1985 as a signals intercept (SIGINT), electronic warfare (EW) and cryptology specialist.  He graduated from the Defense Language Institute basic French and Electronic Warfare Operators Courses before being assigned to Ft. Bragg, NC’s XVIII airborne Corps’ 525th Combat Electronic Warfare & Intelligence (CEWI) brigade.  George served in numerous roles before being assigned as a team sergeant in 3/5th Special Forces Group Airborne.  Upon receiving a Green to Gold Scholarship, George completed his enlisted career in August of 1990 as a staff sergeant (SSG) in 1st battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group (SFG(A)) as the Special Operations Team – Alpha (SOT-A) detachment sergeant.         George was then commissioned into the US Army Military Intelligence Corps in May of 1993 through ROTC from Methodist University, North Carolina. Relevant assignments included Infantry Battalion and Brigade S2 (Intelligence Officer), the intelligence and surveillance (I&S) platoon leader and company executive officer (XO) for the 82nd Airborne Division’s 313th CEWI battalion.  Later he served in command and staff positions in battalion, brigade, division, theater, and joint assignments. George led and conducted EW, SIGINT, and other special missions globally during the initial years of the Global War on Terrorism while assigned to Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC).  He led intelligence planning, operations, analysis, and strategy in Korea for three years, and later served as a battalion commander in Anbar, Iraq, commanding route clearance, explosive ordinance disposal (EOD), military police (MP), unmanned aerial systems (UAS), signal and intelligence forces and was his Brigade Task Force’s commander charged with the Counter Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) fight. In George’s final tour in the Pentagon, he served as the G-8 Force Development Director for all ISR, EW and cyber capabilities, and as the requirements director in the Army G-3’s newly established Cyber directorate (DAMO-CY, now known as DAMO-SO).        Since retiring from the US Army as a Colonel (COL), George has served as a senior advisor to the Army Staff’s Cyber, IO and Electronic Warfare Director and currently is a Vice President with CACI International where he teams to accelerate solutions development in the EW, cyber and ISR mission areas. George Lewis is a resident of Edenton and Chowan County.   George loves serving the Edenton, Chowan, and Eastern NC communities, as well as the veterans and first responders of our great nation.  George serves on the local Steamer’s Baseball board, is the Vice President of Calling on Faith Outdoors, and is a guide for Valor and Honor Outdoors.  George co-operates the Kristopher Fielding Lewis Foundation in honor of his son, who was a Corolla Ocean Rescuer.  The KFL Foundation is a 501c(3) that perpetuates the service and character of his son by recognizing and promoting the same values in local youth and young adults.    George shares his thoughts and analogies on networking, transferring your military skills, evaluating the type of job you want and career balance.  Join us as we meet George and learn from his experience. Connect with George on Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgelewisiii/

Join us as we speak with COL(R) George Lewis, who compares “landing your next career” to a PLF landing learned through Airborne School.   George Lewis enlisted in the Army in 1985 as a signals intercept (SIGINT), electronic warfare (EW) and cryptology specialist.  He graduated from the Defense Language Institute basic French and Electronic Warfare Operators Courses before being assigned to Ft. Bragg, NC’s XVIII airborne Corps’ 525th Combat Electronic Warfare & Intelligence (CEWI) brigade.  George served in numerous roles before being assigned as a team sergeant in 3/5th Special Forces Group Airborne.  Upon receiving a Green to Gold Scholarship, George completed his enlisted career in August of 1990 as a staff sergeant (SSG) in 1st battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group (SFG(A)) as the Special Operations Team – Alpha (SOT-A) detachment sergeant.         George was then commissioned into the US Army Military Intelligence Corps in May of 1993 through ROTC from Methodist University, North Carolina. Relevant assignments included Infantry Battalion and Brigade S2 (Intelligence Officer), the intelligence and surveillance (I&S) platoon leader and company executive officer (XO) for the 82nd Airborne Division’s 313th CEWI battalion.  Later he served in command and staff positions in battalion, brigade, division, theater, and joint assignments. George led and conducted EW, SIGINT, and other special missions globally during the initial years of the Global War on Terrorism while assigned to Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC).  He led intelligence planning, operations, analysis, and strategy in Korea for three years, and later served as a battalion commander in Anbar, Iraq, commanding route clearance, explosive ordinance disposal (EOD), military police (MP), unmanned aerial systems (UAS), signal and intelligence forces and was his Brigade Task Force’s commander charged with the Counter Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) fight. In George’s final tour in the Pentagon, he served as the G-8 Force Development Director for all ISR, EW and cyber capabilities, and as the requirements director in the Army G-3’s newly established Cyber directorate (DAMO-CY, now known as DAMO-SO).        Since retiring from the US Army as a Colonel (COL), George has served as a senior advisor to the Army Staff’s Cyber, IO and Electronic Warfare Director and currently is a Vice President with CACI International where he teams to accelerate solutions development in the EW, cyber and ISR mission areas. George Lewis is a resident of Edenton and Chowan County.   George loves serving the Edenton, Chowan, and Eastern NC communities, as well as the veterans and first responders of our great nation.  George serves on the local Steamer’s Baseball board, is the Vice President of Calling on Faith Outdoors, and is a guide for Valor and Honor Outdoors.  George co-operates the Kristopher Fielding Lewis Foundation in honor of his son, who was a Corolla Ocean Rescuer.  The KFL Foundation is a 501c(3) that perpetuates the service and character of his son by recognizing and promoting the same values in local youth and young adults.     George shares his thoughts and analogies on networking, transferring your military skills, evaluating the type of job you want and career balance.  Join us as we meet George and learn from his experience. Connect with George on Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgelewisiii/

Don’t Wait To Plan Your Transition. Join us this week as we have a conversation with Walter Herd, the Director of the Transition Assistance Program Human Resource Command located in Ft. Knox, Kentucky. Walter comes with a wealth of advice as he leads the Army’s TAP (Transition Assistance Program). He shares the importance of advance planning, networking, and promoting your “assets” regarding transitioning careers from the military to the next chapter. In August 2010, Walter Herd accepted the position and immediately faced the challenge of re-engineering the Army’s Transition Assistance Program. Under Herd’s leadership, the Transition Assistance Program (TAP) was transformed into a robust, fully comprehensive transition program offering counseling, education, and employment assistance to Soldiers, DA Civilians, and retirees. Now mandated, TAP has transitioned over 1,000,000 Soldiers, with an additional average of 100,000 eligible Soldiers to transition annually over the next five years. Walter Herd was commissioned into the Regular Army in June 1983, becoming the sixth generation of his family to serve in America’s military. He has served in over 25 countries and spent most of his career in Special Operations. He served in the 1st Ranger Battalion and later commanded a Special Forces A-Team, three Special Forces Companies, a Special Forces Battalion of some 350 “Green Berets,” and ultimately, a Special Forces Group in combat. That group was Colonel Herd’s first brigade-level command. The third Special Forces Group (forward) was the 4,000-man, 7-nation Combined Joint Special Forces Task Force in Afghanistan. He later commanded another brigade at Ft. Knox, KY, from the summer of 2005 until his retirement in the summer of 2007. He has a BA in History from Centre College of Kentucky and three master’s degrees, one from Marymount University in Human Resource Development and the other two from Staff College and War College in Strategy and Military Science. Colonel Herd's professional education includes the USMC Command and Staff College, its second-year School of Advanced Warfighting program, and the Joint Professional Military Education Program, Armed Forces Staff College at Norfolk Naval Base. He graduated from the Army War College in Carlisle Barracks, PA in 2002. Colonel Herd is a published author with his book, “Unconventional Warrior,” published in 2013 by McFarland Press.

Treat Your Transition Like It Is a Job You Want To Keep! Join us as we enjoy a conversation with Brady Wendlandt, a Senior leader who transitioned from the Marine Corps about two years ago. Brady has several “Tips of Transition Advice,” ranging from researching compensations to utilizing LinkedIn, which he would like to share that applied to his transition, and advice he has shared with numerous service members as they enter their career transition. Brady transitioned from the United States Marine Corps with more than 28 years of DoD logistics and Supply Chain experience. He is a seasoned manager and strategic planner. Brady has extensive experience in ERP implementation, DoD Audit, Program Management, and logistics data analysis. Brady has a history of leading geographically dispersed teams in austere environments and creating resource-saving opportunities. Since retiring from the Marine Corps, Brady has been supporting business development at Trillion Technology Solutions, Inc. Trillion is an 8(a) applications development, systems integration, and custom solution IT company. Brady, his wife Shawna, and their three children have a passion for endurance running. Be sure to connect with Brady on Linkedin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/brady-wentlandt/

Guest: Curtis Holloway, Owner, Suitability, McLean, VA Well-known clothier through the US and military communities Does the way you dress matter? Dressing for Success was a common term, but has our business model changed? Do your clothes set the stage when you are in transitioning careers? Join us this week as we explore the value of “Dressing for Success” with Curtis Holloway, a well-known Clothier throughout the United States, military community, and abroad. As the owner of Suitability of McLean, Curtis has touched many lives with his love and passion for the clothing industry. That love and passion began when he was a very young child, standing in front of the mirror with his father, while he got dressed. From fine clothing to personal grooming, he was one of the sharpest men Curtis had ever known. He learned at an early age the importance of presentation but had no idea at the time he was being groomed to do what he loved 40 years later. Around 2011, he got involved in the clothing industry, and a mutual friend advised him to connect with a gentleman known as Sofio Baron. This friend said Sofio would be the perfect source of guidance and mentorship for someone like himself getting started in this business. Curtis did just that, and his friends were not the least bit mistaken. But little did he know that mentorship would become a partnership, and he acquired the business after Sofio retired. Curtis learned most from both great mentors that “Fashion comes and goes, but Style lasts a lifetime!” everyone has something to contribute to this world; it’s just a matter of being given the opportunity to do so and being ready for that opportunity when it comes. You can find more information about Suitability of McLean at: Website: https://www.suitabilityofmclean.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtis-holloway-95a17162/ Email: [email protected] Phone: 571-405-6612 Address: 6719 Curran St., 3rd Floor, McLean, VA 22101 Hours: Wednesday - Saturday, 10:00 am - 6:00 pm

Join us this week to talk with Matt Quick, PM Champion.  We will discuss which certifications you should consider as you transition out of the military…and what certifications you may not need. Matt is a Partner Success Specialist with Project Management Institute (PMI)--the leading professional association for project management--focusing on the U.S. Public Sector and leads its Military and Veteran Program. Before joining PMI in 2022, he was a Career Coach and Certified Digital Networking Professional--connecting people with resources and opportunities. Matt served 25 years in the U.S. military (Army and Marine Corps), rising to the rank of Sergeant Major and leading the Army's largest Retention Program--U.S. Army Forces Command. One of his greatest professional accomplishments is creating ArmyReenlistment.com, where he's been consolidating Army career resources and delivering them at scale to users for over 20 years. Matt's been happily married for 26 years and enjoys traveling around the U.S. with his bride. Someday soon, they'll take their travels internationally! You can find Matt on Linkedin at:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-quick/ Also, check out Matt online at www.pmi.org/military Email Matt at:  [email protected] Please follow and subscribe to our podcast: Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-transition/id1701440122 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4mh1k4IKHDFN6Gw5fCx8Ox?si=ZUNlEfT7QoKtL45k9eI0Ow Google Play: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcHAua2FqYWJpLmNvbS9wb2RjYXN0cy8yMTQ3NTQ0Mjc0L2ZlZWQ Share our links with friends, colleagues, and family. Also, subscribe and share our links on our website: www.eselseminars.com

This is a continuation of last week's episode with LTC (R) Dave Maurer. Our guest this week is LTC (R) Dave Maurer. Dave Maurer offers a wealth of experience as a career military officer and a senior leader within the private sector. His corporate leadership includes serving as a corporate officer for several Washington, D.C. firms. He led a global career transition training program spanning all 50 states and 17 countries and territories in support of the Labor Department and the U.S. military. His military service included tours within the intelligence community and the Joint Staff in the Pentagon. It culminated as the 72nd Adjutant General for the United States Military Academy at West Point. Dave is a certified Project Management Professional and a sought-after trainer. He has served as a member of the Board of Directors of the USO of New York City and the boards of several D.C. and Virginia chapters of the Project Management Institute (PMI) and the Military Officers Association of America. He currently serves on the Editorial Advisory Board of G.I. Jobs Magazine and is a member of the Leadership Council of the Seton Hall University Center for Leadership Development. Dave’s audiences and clients have included the World Bank, the CIA, FBI, Marshals Service, DHS, all military branches, several PMI chapters, and enterprises in the private sector. He has presented at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., the Harvard University Kennedy School of Government, and West Point. Dave is a member of the National Speakers Association and the co-author of several books covering leadership, career transition, and project management.

Our guest this week is LTC (R) Dave Maurer. Dave Maurer offers a wealth of experience as a career military officer and a senior leader within the private sector. His corporate leadership includes serving as a corporate officer for several Washington, D.C. firms. He led a global career transition training program spanning all 50 states and 17 countries and territories in support of the Labor Department and the U.S. military. His military service included tours within the intelligence community and the Joint Staff in the Pentagon. It culminated as the 72nd Adjutant General for the United States Military Academy at West Point. Dave is a certified Project Management Professional and a sought-after trainer. He has served as a member of the Board of Directors of the USO of New York City and the boards of several D.C. and Virginia chapters of the Project Management Institute (PMI) and the Military Officers Association of America. He currently serves on the Editorial Advisory Board of G.I. Jobs Magazine and is a member of the Leadership Council of the Seton Hall University Center for Leadership Development. Dave’s audiences and clients have included the World Bank, the CIA, FBI, Marshals Service, DHS, all military branches, several PMI chapters, and enterprises in the private sector. He has presented at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., the Harvard University Kennedy School of Government, and West Point. Dave is a member of the National Speakers Association and the co-author of several books covering leadership, career transition, and project management.

Col (R) Wade Dennis’ service to the MP Regiment was exemplary. He enlisted in the Army in January 1978. He went on to serve in a myriad of positions, from basic MP patrolman to Commanding the 82d MP Company, the only Airborne MP Company in the history of the US Army to execute a combat parachute assault, during the invasion of Panama (Operation Just Cause). He commanded the 503rd MP Battalion (Airborne) while it secured the Pentagon for 8 months after the tragedy of September 2011 (9-11) and commanded the Battalion during the initial envision if Iraq (OIF). He commanded the Joint Detention Group at JTF-Guantanamo (OEF) and served as both the Assistant Commandant and Commandant of the United States Military Police School. COL Dennis was also the first MP Officer to serve as the Chief of Staff Maneuver Support Center of Excellence (MSCoE) and Ft. Leonard Wood, Mo. He culminated his career as the Senior Advisor to the Afghanistan Minister of Interior and the J-34 at USNORTHCOM, Peterson AFB, Colorado. COL Dennis retired in June 2014 after more than 36 years of service. He received The Order of the Marechaussee in Gold and was inducted into the U.S. Army Military Police Regimental Hall of Fame in 2019. Mr. Dennis currently serves as the Senior Director of Operations for Chenega Global Protection, LLC., which is a Chenega Corporation-owned subsidiary company focused on providing a broad spectrum of security services to the federal and private sectors within the U.S. and abroad. We will discuss life after almost 40 years of service in the military, the importance of networking, ensuring veterans get the most disability rating possible, and other topics. Resources from the podcast: VA Legal Support: www.JanDils.com | www.Fight4Vets.com YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DeptVetAffairs

Joe Posusney grew up in Philadelphia, PA, and earned his Eagle Scout award at age 17. He is a West Point graduate and Army veteran who served in the 82nd Airborne MP Company, earning his senior parachute badge with bronze service star. During Operation Just Cause, he participated in the only combat parachute assault by an MP Company in history and served during both Desert Shield and Desert Storm. He has extensive experience in engineering, technology, operations, R&D, manufacturing, and sales and marketing in his corporate career. He is a founding member in the advancement of women’s health at Organon and currently serves as Associate Director, Market Access Customer Management. He earned his Master's in Engineering, Management of Technology from the University of Pennsylvania School of Engineering and Wharton School of Business and is a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt and a PMP. He describes himself as a life-long learner who enjoys reading and anything that gets him outdoors. He is a coffee enthusiast and enjoys extensive travel. We will discuss the importance of learning the language of industries and companies you may want to join as well as networking as your sharpest tool in the job search toolbox.

Having Shawna Wentlandt as our guest on this week's podcast is a great honor. Like Michele and Cyndi, Shawna wears the badge of military spouse and gives some great insight into the transition process from the spouse's perspective. Shawna is originally from Julian, California, a small town in the mountains north of San Diego. Since marrying Brady in 1999, they moved worldwide and raised their three kids. In 2010, she earned a Ph.D. in leadership and organizational change. She works as an online college professor. In her free time, she is a long-distance runner and enjoys traveling.

On Episode 1, we speak with guest, John Perez, founder of Valor & Honor Outdoors. "Valor & Honor Outdoors is a 501(c)(3) non-profit public charity organization whose mission is to honor all military personnel, past and present, who have served with “Valor and Honor.” We are dedicated to providing unique outdoor experiences to active-duty military, veterans, and their families. Operated entirely by volunteers, our passion is fishing and hunting, although we also provide opportunities for other outdoor activities such as camping, kayaking, archery, target-practice, and horseback riding. Whether a wounded warrior needs to regain physical and/or mental well-being, or an active military member is looking for a respite from the pressures of current service, Valor & Honor strives for a low-stress, hands-on outdoor adventure. We have several youth-oriented hunting and fishing events that allow both parents and children to join us and share the outdoors together." John provided these links for Valor & Honor Outdoors: Website: www.ValorAndHonorOutdoors.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ValorandHonorOutdoors/ Instagram: @valorandhonoroutdoors.com If people want to email me directly: [email protected] Once again, thank you for the opportunity! John Be sure to follow our podcast on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tactical-transition/id1701440122 Or on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/4mh1k4IKHDFN6Gw5fCx8Ox?si=ZUNlEfT7QoKtL45k9eI0Ow And visit our website at www.eselseminars.com and subscribe for important information about military transition.

Long time coming, this is our introductory episode of the Tactical Transition Podcast. The focus is on senior military leaders transitioning into the civilian job market. We will discuss resources and best practices to help service members find their next career after service to the country. Please visit our website at www.eselseminars.com and subscribe to our email. And of course subscribe to our podcast.