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The Accountant Quits Podcast
by The Accountant Quits
The Accountant Quits helps finance professionals build real-world Web3 finance skills for accounting, treasury, and finance roles in crypto-native companies.Learn alongside a global community through the Crypto Accounting Academy and Crypto Treasury Management Academy.Our podcast features practitioners building and running finance teams in Web3.Website - www.theaccountantquits.com
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#107 - Web3 Directorship Services with Petri Basson from Hash Directors
Most web3 founders appoint a director without truly understanding what that person is signing up for. Get it wrong, and it's not just a governance problem, it's a personal liability problem.Petri Basson, Founder of Hash Directors, has sat on foundations, non-token web3 projects, and crypto funds across the Cayman Islands. In this episode, he breaks down exactly what a director is responsible for and what happens when things go wrong.Petri is also an Advisor to Lemma, exTreasury, & Provenance, and serves as Chairman of BACI, the Blockchain Association of the Cayman Islands, known for also organizing Cayman Crypto Week.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://www.onchainfinanceinstitute.com/courses🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting - https://www.onchainfinanceinstitute.com/free-class🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto - https://www.onchainfinanceinstitute.com/crypto-accounting-academy💎 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Treasury Management Academy and learn how to optimize, allocate and protect your organization's treasury - https://www.onchainfinanceinstitute.com/crypto-treasury-management-academy💰Simplify crypto AR, AP & accounting using Request Finance & get 2 months for free - https://www.request.finance/partners/theaccountantquits💰 The full-stack OS for Web3 businesses using Kryptos and 10% off (Code TAQ10) - https://affiliate.kryptos.io/signup?campaign=theaccountantquits✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/ocf-institute👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Petri Basson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petri-basson/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered:(0:00) Coming Up(2:35) How Petri got into web3(4:42) Web2 v/s web3 directorship(8:21) Hash Directors overview (10:40) Directorship: Cayman Foundation(16:54) Directorship: Non-token projects (18:25) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(20:05) Directorship: VASP(25:35) Role of VASP Supervisor (29:05) Governance stack(31:55) Directorship: Crypto Funds (35:11) Non-executive directorship(36:45) Substance requirements in Cayman(40:49) Cayman Crypto Week & what is BACI(46:34) Reach out to Petri
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#106: Web3 Fractional CFO and Directorship Services (With the Ex Head of Finance at Safe)
Token launches aren’t just hype, they come with tough decisions around valuation, post TGE treasury management, choosing market makers, and legal structures (Foundation and Token SPV)In this episode, Kevin Leuthardt (Founder of threek advisory, Fractional Web3 CFO and expert director, and former finance lead at Arweave, Safe, and WalletConnect) shares what really happens behind the scenes from TGE to governance and treasury management.If you’re building in Web3 and want to move beyond hype into real execution, this conversation will give you the clarity most teams wish they had earlier.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://www.theaccountantquits.com/courses 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy 💎 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Treasury Management Academy and learn how to optimize, allocate and protect your organization's treasury https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-treasury-management-academy 💰Simplify crypto AR, AP & accounting using Request Finance & get 2 months for free - https://www.request.finance/partners/theaccountantquits💰 The full-stack OS for Web3 businesses using Kryptos and 10% off (Code TAQ10) - https://affiliate.kryptos.io/signup?campaign=theaccountantquits✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/ocf-institute👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Kevin Leuthardt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-leuthardt/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered:(0:00) Coming Up(2:56) Web3 journey to Fractional CFO(6:21) TGE readiness playbook(11:35) Post-TGE Founder mistakes(14:45) How many market makers(21:02) Loan option v/s retainer model(25:01) Market maker recommendation(27:16) Budget for market makers(29:01) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(30:40) Web3 director roles explained(34:13) Personal liability for directorship(37:24) Swiss vs Cayman Foundations(40:28) Residency and directorship(42:31) Onchain treasury management execution(48:30) Counterparty & correlation risk(53:17) Web3 M&A with tokens(58:34) threek advisory services overview(1:02:39) Are tokens less appealing now(1:06:57) AI in Fractional CFO work(1:10:56) Key Takeaways(1:13:43) Reach out to Kevin
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#105: Crypto Asset Management & Fund Accounting with Damon Xu from 1Token
Crypto funds trade across exchanges, wallets, custodians, and DeFi protocols.Trading may be easy but reconciling everything isn’t.In this episode, I speak with Damon Xu, Founder & CEO of 1Token, about the infrastructure behind institutional crypto asset management.1Token is a SOC 2 certified platform used by crypto funds and asset managers to manage portfolios, risk, and reporting across CeFi and DeFi, aggregating trades, transactions, and positions across exchanges, custody, OTC desks, wallets, and protocols while automating reconciliation, NAV, and reporting.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://www.theaccountantquits.com/courses 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy 💎 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Treasury Management Academy and learn how to optimize, allocate and protect your organization's treasury https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-treasury-management-academy 💰Simplify crypto AR, AP & accounting using Request Finance & get 2 months for free - https://www.request.finance/partners/theaccountantquits💰 The full-stack OS for Web3 businesses using Kryptos and 10% off (Code TAQ10) - https://affiliate.kryptos.io/signup?campaign=theaccountantquits✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Damon Xu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/damon-xu-41163938/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered:(0:00) Coming Up(3:12) Damon’s quant background(6:13) Early crypto fund challenges(8:38) About 1Token(9:44) Crypto PMS Explained(15:59) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(17:39) PMS for market maker v/s asset manager(19:29) 1Token for fund admin(21:47) Comparing 1Token & Paxus, Geneva(24:36) 1Token v/s subledger(26:38) DeFi data(29:27) Valuation & pricing sources(32:38) 1Token’s risk management system(35:49) Understanding risk curators(40:17) How to Choose a risk curator(42:27) 1Token feature for onchain vaults(44:34) 1Token Demo(50:49) Using AI in crypto funds(54:37) Reach out to Damon
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#104: The Modern CFO Stack: Stablecoins & Yield with Stepan Simkin from Squads & Altitude
Your CFO is not your CTO, and in web3, confusing the two can cost you.After scaling Squads into the leading multisig on Solana (securing $12B+ in digital assets), Stepan noticed something surprising: teams were using multisigs as their business bank account.Self-custody? YesOperational efficiency? Not quite.And that gap led to Altitude.Altitude is a stablecoin-native finance platform combining payments (ACH, Wire, SEPA), treasury yield, AR/AP workflows, and soon corporate cards, giving companies global access without relying on a traditional bank.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://www.theaccountantquits.com/courses 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy 💎 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Treasury Management Academy and learn how to optimize, allocate and protect your organization's treasury https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-treasury-management-academy 💰Simplify crypto AR, AP & accounting using Request Finance & get 2 months for free - https://www.request.finance/partners/theaccountantquits💰The full-stack OS for Web3 businesses using Kryptos- https://kryptos.io/enterprise ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Stepan Simkin: https://x.com/SimkinStepan🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered:(0:00) Coming Up(3:05) Stepan’s Background(4:46) Stablecoin Adoption(8:40) From Squads to Altitude(12:49) Using a self custodial ‘bank’(16:12) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(17:51) Stablecoin powered business banking(21:05) Yield on stablecoins(25:09) CFO’s due diligence(27:30) Privacy for payments(31:18) Privacy solution on Solana(32:19) Altitude Demo(35:42) Squads integration with Altitude(37:01) Onboarding to Altitude(37:33) Agentic automation workflows(40:28) Is Altitude for Solana users only(42:03) Accounting in Altitude(43:42) Closing thoughts(45:37) Reach out to Altitude
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#103: Starting a Crypto Accounting Firm with Mackenzie Thota from Hash Basis
If you’re in a stable 9-to-5 job and thinking, “In 2026, I want to start my own crypto accounting firm” , this episode is for you.Starting an accounting practice isn’t just about technical skills. One of the first and most important decisions you’ll make is choosing your niche, and in crypto, that decision shapes everything that follows.My guest is Mackenzie Thota, Founder of Hash Basis. At only 25 years old, she left a secure crypto accounting role at Figment, one of the leading blockchain validators, to go fully entrepreneurial and build a crypto-native accounting & tax firm.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://www.theaccountantquits.com/courses 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy 💎 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Treasury Management Academy and learn how to optimize, allocate and protect your organization's treasury https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-treasury-management-academy 💰Simplify crypto AR, AP & accounting using Request Finance & get 2 months for free - https://www.request.finance/partners/theaccountantquits✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Mackenzie Thota: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mackenziepatel/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered:(0:00) Coming Up(3:13) Quitting the 9-5 job (6:11) Do you make enough money(10:20) Hash Basis overview(7:19) Checklist to start(13:12) Crypto tax or accounting first?(15:35) Finding your first client(17:09) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(19:17) Finding your ideal clients(23:10) Sales call(25:38) Red flags on sales call(27:02) Client onboarding process(29:44) Pricing mistakes(32:48) What makes a client complex?(35:39) Learnings from external audits(36:54) Practice management tools(39:43) Other tools(40:29) Choosing a subledger(43:50) Recharge subledger expense to clients(44:44) Cost for minimum viable tech stack(46:36) Using AI/Automation(49:15) Hiring contractors remotely(52:05) Training the team(53:46) New DeFi challenges(57:24) Mackenzie’s advice(58:16) Reach out to Mackenzie
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#102: Navigating Web3 Treasury with Rohit Goel from Protocol Labs
Treasury management is one of the most foundational, and least standardized functions in web3.As organizations operate across fiat, stablecoins, and native tokens, treasury teams are no longer just tracking balances. They’re responsible for protecting liquidity, managing financial risk, designing governance and internal controls, and ensuring the organization can operate and survive long-term.Rohit Goel, Treasurer at Protocol Labs, the creators of Filecoin and IPFS, joins us to share practical frameworks and hard-earned lessons on web3 treasury management.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://www.theaccountantquits.com/courses 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy 💎 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Treasury Management Academy and learn how to optimize, allocate and protect your organization's treasury https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-treasury-management-academy 💰Simplify crypto AR, AP & accounting using Request Finance & get 2 months for free - https://www.request.finance/partners/theaccountantquits✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Rohit Goel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohitgoelcfa/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered:(0:00) Coming Up(3:33) Rohit’s web3 journey(5:12) Treasurer role explained(11:14) Web2 vs web3 treasury(14:04) Building a strong web3 treasury(18:25) Financing options in web3(19:39) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(21:27) Endowment portfolio approach(24:19) Building diversified crypto treasuries(28:48) Outsourcing using derivatives to investment managers(31:33) Onchain treasury monitoring(34:13) Counterparty risk management(38:05) Web3 treasury governance(42:02) Building real-time crypto dashboards(43:55) Tools for managing cash flow(44:52) Skills for Web3 finance(48:48) Reach out to Rohit
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#101: Web3 Fundraising with Max Torres (SAFE, SAFT)
Fundraising in web3 isn’t just web2 with a token attached.On Episode 101, we break down what actually changes when you introduce tokens, interoperability, decentralization, and community ownership into the funding model.I’m joined by Max Torres, Managing Partner at Taco3 Ventures and former Head of Finance at 0x Labs, where he helped raise $85M across Series A & B.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://www.theaccountantquits.com/courses 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy 💎 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Treasury Management Academy and learn how to optimize, allocate and protect your organization's treasury https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-treasury-management-academy 💰Simplify crypto AR, AP & accounting using Request Finance & get 2 months for free - https://www.request.finance/partners/theaccountantquits✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Max Torres: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxaotorres/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered(0:00) Coming Up(2:27) Max’s web3 background(7:03) Fundraising in web2 v/s web3(9:06) SAFE & SAFT(11:11) Pro-rata rights of token supply(14:01) Fundraising Preparation(17:50) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(19:29) Understanding Tokenomics(23:01) Fundraising process for founders(26:46) Fundraising data platforms(28:05) Closing the deal(31:04) Launchpads as fundraising tools(34:14) Future of web3 fundraising(37:11) Taco3 Ventures services(39:08) CFO role in web3(41:25) CFO skills for web3(44:27) Reach out to Max
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#100: Operational Security for Onchain Treasuries with Safe (prev. Gnosis Safe)
Operational security is becoming the biggest priority in crypto, here’s how top teams protect their onchain treasuries.Safe is the gold standard for smart contract wallets, securing over $60billion for organizations like the Ethereum Foundation, Optimism, Polygon, Chainlink, Morpho, and ENS.In this episode, with Shebin John, Research Engineer at Safe Research, we explore how they’re building the next generation of treasury security, bringing approvals, spending limits, and segregation of duties directly into smart contract wallets.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://www.theaccountantquits.com/courses 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy 💎 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Treasury Management Academy and learn how to optimize, allocate and protect your organization's treasury https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-treasury-management-academy 💰Simplify crypto AR, AP & accounting using Request Finance & get 2 months for free - https://www.request.finance/partners/theaccountantquits✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Shebin John: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shebinjohn/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered(0:00) Coming Up(2:42) Thank you for Episode 100(3:41) Onchain treasury security challenges(5:50) Safe Modules and Guards(9:32) How Guards Work(10:59) New feature with Spaces (13:43) Delegate call overview(16:11) Guardrail protection explained(18:28) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(20:08) Fiducia & co-signers(24:58) Policy Engines(30:55) Implementing Policy Engine(32:51) Zodiac’s Role Modifier(34:52) Safe Research’s vision(38:01) Other Safe projects(39:42) Adoption hurdles(41:25) Implementation barriers for finance teams(42:59) Concluding thoughts(45:35) Reach out to Shebin
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#99: Institutional Crypto Trading & Yield with Bo Zhang from Function
Why are so many Web3 projects with massive treasuries not doing active treasury management?That’s the question we explore in this episode with Bo Zhang, COO at Function: a project building the rails that allow Bitcoin to actually function: liquid, composable, and yield-generating.Together with Bo, we dive deep into the intersection of institutional trading & token management, treasury management, and working with market makers.Bo is also one of the instructors of our upcoming course: the Crypto Treasury Management Academy launching October 29th, designed to help web3 finance professionals learn how to optimize, allocate, and protect their organization’s crypto treasury.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://app.theaccountantquits.com/ 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Bo Zhang: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bozhang7940/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered(0:00) Coming Up(2:44) Background in web3(6:02) Stress testing DeFi protocols(11:25) Treasury management for web3 projects(14:41) Active treasury management (17:36) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(19:16) Working with market makers(22:54) Crypto hedging basics(26:27) Outsourcing crypto hedging(28:19) Do web3 organizations use derivatives(29:24) Evolution of Bitcoin DeFi(35:56) About Function & FBTC(37:30) Lessons from Ren Protocol(42:14) Function’s vision & RWAs(45:32) Guiding principles for web3 treasuries(48:36) Reach out to Bo Zhang
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#98: Managing Ops for a Web3 Foundation (Everclear) with Max Kalyuzhnyi
Max Kalyuzhnyi, Head of Operations at Everclear Foundation, shares his journey from Big4 audit to web3 finance. We cover token migrations, fundraising, vibe-coding, and the tools he uses for web3 ops, from Toku & Sablier to Integral, Rain, and Dakota.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://app.theaccountantquits.com/ 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Max Kalyuzhnyi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximkalyuzhnyi/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered(0:00) Coming Up(2:52) Career transition into web3(6:02) Overview of Everclear(8:58) Bridging example(11:02) Fees of Everclear(12:27) Subledger implementation(14:33) Switching from Bitwave(17:38) Creating chart of accounts(19:12) Feedback for subledgers(22:23) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(24:02) Fair value gain after TGE event(29:00) Token migration & coordinating with exchanges(36:06) Service providers for token migration(37:44)Tools for token distribution(42:26) Toku, Sablier & custom contracts(44:00) Cost optimization(50:15) Other tools for web3 ops(52:41) AI-Assisted vibe-coding(56:40) Advice for web3 transition(59:17) Reach out to Max Kalyuzhnyi
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#97: Building the Digital Assets Audit Department at Deloitte France
Deloitte has been on the front lines of digital assets, working with exchanges, custodians, stablecoin issuers, and enterprises to bring crypto into regulated finance.In this episode, I’m joined by Jérémy Stevance, Manager on Deloitte France’s Digital Assets Team, who has spent the last four years building their crypto audit practice. He’s worked with Web3 leaders like Circle, Binance, and Crypto.com, as well as traditional giants like LVMH and Société Générale.We also discuss Coinia, Deloitte’s proprietary tool that reconciles hundreds of thousands of blockchain transactions directly to client books.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://app.theaccountantquits.com/ 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Jérémy Stevance: https://www.linkedin.com/in/j%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-stevance-084464121/ 🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered(0:00) Coming Up(2:14) Blockchain nodes and completeness (7:36) Third-party data provider(11:20) Working with Deloitte’s global network(12:22) Proving ownership of wallets(16:37) Ensuring wallet completeness(18:29) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(20:20) Wallet documentation(21:46) Auditing crypto exchanges(26:09) Accepting an audit engagement(28:40) How Jérémy transitioned from web2 to web3(34:05) Deloitte clients(36:05) Proof of reserves with Circle(39:00) Adoption of crypto from enterprises in France(44:17) Relying on subledgers(46:18) Advice for web3 career(49:29) Reach out to Jeremy
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#96: Building an Enterprise Grade Crypto Accounting Software with Kryptos
Should a crypto subledger do more than just bookkeeping and reporting?Kryptos began as a retail-focused crypto tax tool. Today, it has evolved into an enterprise-grade accounting platform, offering not just bookkeeping, but also treasury management, token vesting, payroll, invoicing, audits, and even proof-of-reserves.On Episode 96, we spoke with Sukesh Tedla, CEO of Kryptos, to discuss their leap from consumer to enterprise, the hurdles of adoption, and how automation and AI are reshaping the future of crypto accounting✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://app.theaccountantquits.com/ 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Sukesh Tedla: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sukeshtedla/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered(0:00) Coming Up(1:54) Why launch a subledger(3:20) Using Kryptos SDK(7:43) Retail tax calculators switching to enterprise(11:01) Enterprise v/s retails sales(12:04) Custom enterprise requirements(14:19) All-in-one subledger(16:21) Partnerships & integrations(17:22) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(19:01) Kryptos Enterprise demo(29:09) Pricing(32:05) AI-powered crypto accounting(34:35) Adoption of crypto in Sweden(36:39) Closing Thoughts(38:22) Reach out to Sukesh
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#95: Navigating Web3 Operations with Sarah Luehrs from Union Labs
Navigating Web3 operations isn’t always glamorous.While developers are busy building, someone needs to ensure the machines run smoothly behind the scenes.Sarah Luehrs is the COO at Union Labs, and she pulls back the curtain on what it takes to navigate web3 operations and scale a remote-first team.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://app.theaccountantquits.com/ 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Sarah Luehrs: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-luehrs-2609b181/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered(0:00) Coming Up(2:36) How Sarah started in web3(6:30) From Tokensoft to Union Labs(7:12) What is Union?(9:32) Challenges of web3 operations(12:35) Recurring tasks(15:11) Secrets to CEO/COO Harmony(17:47) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(19:25) Challenges of treasury management(22:58) Web3 tools (payroll, subledger)(28:13) Working on a token launch(29:51) Token launch checklist(32:58) Challenges setting up a Foundation(36:43) Head of Foundation in Cayman Islands?(38:34) How to have a web3 career (41:02) Favourite learning resources(44:22) Sarah’s maxim(47:19) Reach out to Sarah on X
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#94 - Stablecoin Issuance Regulation with Legal Nodes (GENIUS Act v/s MiCA)
Ep. 94 dives into the newly signed GENIUS Act and what it means for stablecoin issuers. I’m joined by Nestor Dubnevych (Legal Nodes) to unpack its impact on licensing, compliance, and cross-border operations. We also cover global regulatory trends and what teams need to know when building crypto payment products.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://app.theaccountantquits.com/ 🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Nestor Dubnevych: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nestor-dubnevych/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered(0:00) Coming Up(2:14) GENIUS Act Explained(4:51) Winners & losers of GENIUS Act(7:00) Compliance costs(11:37) Future of stablecoins and banks(14:03) On-ramping & off-ramping opportunities(16:33) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(18:12) Yield-bearing stablecoins(21:42) Global stablecoin regulations(24:36) Compliance for crypto payments gateways(27:42) Geographical use case trends(30:10) RWA compliance(35:05) Legal Nodes services(37:41) How Legal Nodes evolved since 2018(39:21) Clarity Act(40:57) Regulatory interoperability(43:48) Reach out to Nestor or Legal Nodes
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#93: Asset Management & Financial Reporting for DAOs with Jack Gale from kpk (formerly karpatkey)
kpk is redefining crypto treasury management with secure, transparent, fully on-chain systems. In this episode, I speak with Jack Gale, core contributor at kpk (formerly Karpatkey), managing over $1.8B for top DAOs like Gnosis, Aave, ENS, and dYdX.We dive into why an Investment Policy Statement (IPS) is essential for DAOs, how kpk builds trust with crypto-native reporting, and a case study with Beefy Finance using Octav for on-chain data tracking.✅ OUR RESOURCES🌐 Join a global community of web3 accounting & finance professionals - https://app.theaccountantquits.com/ 💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Jack Gale: https://x.com/iamjackgale🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered:(0:00) Coming Up(2:19) Investment Policy Statement (IPS) for DAOs(5:31) How to start IPS(7:49) IPS for Ethereum Foundation(12:52) Public IPS examples with ENS, Balancer(13:21) kpk services for asset management & financial reporting(16:46) kpk’s early beginnings(18:19) kpk scaling strategy(20:31) Get 2 months for free with Request Finance(22:12) kpk as on-chain agent(27:58) onchain permissions in practice(30:07) Zodiac Roles Modifier for onchain permissions(33:09) kpk’s open-source toolkit(33:47) Live demo of kpk(35:35) kpk’s DeFi treasury platform(41:09) Inside Beefy Finance Financial Report(45:08) Using Octav to build financial reports of Beefy Finance(51:09) Does Beefy use traditional accounting softwares?(52:55) Final thoughts for DAO contributors & founders(55:36) Jack’s quote(56:24) Reach out to Jack or kpk
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#92: Web3 Incorporation in Panama (A Legal Guide)
Web3 is global, but where you set up your company matters. One growing hotspot is Panama.Panama doesn’t have specific crypto laws yet, so Web3 projects don’t need special licenses. It’s unregulated, but still legal. Plus, there’s 0% corporate tax on foreign income, making it a great place for innovation.To break it all down, I’m joined by Edgar Young, Partner at Pacifica Legal, a firm that’s helped over 270 Web3 companies incorporate in Panama.✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Edgar Young: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-edgar-young-773a86218/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered;(0:00) Coming Up(0:51) Episode intro(2:35) How Pacifica Legal started(5:53) Panama’s crypto evolution(7:42) Tax environment in Panama(13:17) Tax obligations for founders from Panama(18:38) Thanks to our sponsor Octav(20:20) Token launch setup with SPV & Foundation(24:24) Controlling interest in subsidiaries(26:07) How funds flow between entities(26:56) Setup time & costs(27:51) Sociedad Anónima vs. Foundation(33:20) Bearer shares in Panama(35:42) DAO setup in Panama(38:14) DAO distributions to token holders(39:14) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance(40:53) Panama v/s Cayman Foundations(45:12) Ownerless Foundation in Panama(47:11) Reputation risks(50:56) Crypto-friendly banks(55:19) Going bankless?(57:04) Pacifica’s crypto legal services(58:17) Onboarding process(59:12) Filing & Compliance(01:01:23) Final Thoughts(01:03:14) Reach out to Edgar
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#91: DeFiBank for Enterprises with Jozef Vogel, COO of EtherFi
Banking has always been about trust and control. Neobanks upgraded the user experience, but the system remained centralized.Now, we’re in the third wave: DeFi banks, a non-custodial, blockchain-based, and fully user-controlled.Leading this shift is EtherFi, offering a seamless way to save, earn, and spend without traditional banks. Think fiat on/off ramps, asset deployment into BTC, ETH, stables, staking, swapping, and more all in one place.Jozef Vogel, COO of EtherFi, shares how finance professionals can start using these tools in their day to day business.✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Jozef Vogel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jozefvogel/ 🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered;(0:00) Coming Up(0:31) Episode intro(2:38) ether.fi’s growth to $6.8B TVL(6:47) Ether.fi as a DeFiBank - save, earn, & spend(12:32) Thanks to our sponsor Octav(14:15) Ether.fi’s liquid vaults for DeFi rewards(16:20) Onboarding for institutions(18:12) Use cases for off ramping product(20:34) ether.fi’s business model & why DeFi can outperform TradFi(23:59) Transparency in DeFi (25:15) Subledgers for public DeFi reporting?(26:20) ether.fi Cash product(28:04) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance(29:34) ether.fi’s corporate card features(31:19) What is a BIN sponsor(32:20) How borrowing works in ether.fi(34:32) Strategy to reach CeFi & neobank users(35:52) Licensing & navigating global regulation.(37:06) Do web3 projects still need a bank?(39:16) Hiring at ether.fi (40:13) Final thoughts(40:44) Partnership opportunities(41:41) Connect with Jozef
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#90: Token Launch & Valuation with Neil Thakur from Teknos Associates
In practice, token launches are often delayed, and that can slow down the entire roadmap of a web3 project.Once there’s a traded price for a token, it’s difficult to walk it back. Post-launch valuations are often magnitudes higher than pre-launch ones. That’s why valuation reports have a limited shelf life, and why getting it right matters.My guest is Neil Thakur, Managing Director and Founding Member at Teknos Associates, a crypto valuation & advisory firm.If you’re in the middle of launching a token or structuring your SAFT with lawyers and advisors, this episode could help you avoid some costly mistakes.✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestNeil Thakur: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilkthakur/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered:(0:00) Coming Up(0:59) Episode intro(2:49) When to get a token valuation & pitfalls(9:14) Shelf life of a token valuation report(11:25) IP valuation & transfer pricing issues(16:04) Transfer pricing for LabCo, Token SPV & Foundation(18:47) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance(20:27) Token grants & valuation(24:27) Differences with common option grants (27:42) Checklist for structuring token grants(31:16) Tax savings through 83b election filing(38:02) Pricing methodologies for a token pre-launch(44:00) Thanks to our sponsor Octav(45:40) What if you forgot to file a 83(b) election(48:05) Donations and gifting with HNW individuals (50:31) M&As in web3 & valuation issues(53:49) Provisions for protection against token considerations for M&As(55:19) Level 2 and Level 3 crypto assets(01:00:40) Overview of Teknos Associates services(01:04:33) Onboarding of a client(01:07:35) Services after a token launch(01:09:31) Closing thoughts(01:12:26) Reach out to Neil
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#89: A Legal Guide for Token Launches with Jonathan Turnham from NXT Law
Before a token hits the market, founders face complex legal and tax decisions that can make or break their project.Where to incorporate? What type of token to issue? How does your personal residency affect taxes?On Ep. 89, I’m joined by Jonathan Turnham, Managing Partner at NXT Law, who’s helped launch over 350 Cayman Foundations and advised crypto projects since the ICO era.If you're involved in a token launch, this episode could save you from major legal headaches.✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestJonathan Turnham: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-turnham/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered:
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#88: Fund Accounting for Digital Assets with MG Stover & Otto
The investment fund industry is massive, spanning everything from mutual funds and hedge funds to private equity and ETFs. But something’s changing.Finance is shifting from slow, opaque off-chain transactions to fast, transparent on-chain finance. Tokenized funds are here, with institutional AUM now over $470 million (rwa.xyz).Leading this evolution is MG Stover, managing $40billion+ in digital assets and now part of Securitize, a leader in tokenizing real-world assets ($3.7billion on-chain). Their latest innovation? Otto, an app designed for institutional digital asset funds.On Ep. 88, I speak with Patrick Clancy, Head of Growth at MG Stover, about fund administration for digital assets, how to launch a digital assets fund, and the tech driving them.✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🤓 Join the FREE Crypto Accounting Class & learn how to start working in web3 accounting https://www.theaccountantquits.com/free-class🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestPatrick Clancy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keepingitpc/ 🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered:(0:00) Coming Up(0:49) Episode intro(3:50) Challenges with digital assets fund admin(5:35) Difference between fund admin & fund manager(8:05) Working with regulated custodians(9:20) Operational setup, including NAV reporting(13:02) Gaps in DeFi tooling(15:47) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance(17:26) Fund structures for digital assets(23:10) Capital markets narratives (27:58) Tipping point for tokenized funds(30:42) History of MG Stover with crypto fund admin(34:54) Acquisition by Securitize(36:11) Thanks to our sponsor Octav(37:52) Otto, a tool for fund administration(41:33) Otto v/s subledger v/s Allvue(45:01) Growth initiatives for Otto(49:09) Closing education gap for accountants(52:11) Closing thoughts(53:05) Patrick’s favourite maxim
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#87: The Future of Crypto Accounting with Chandan Lodha from CoinTracker
Tokenization is hitting an inflection point, with $4–5 trillion in digital securities expected by 2030.Crypto accounting has come a long way from the Wild West days, but challenges remain for crypto accountants.Regulators and accounting bodies are stepping in, and a real crypto finance stack is finally emerging.On Episode 87, I'm joined by Chandan Lodha, Co-Founder of CoinTracker, who’s helped 2.5M+ users with crypto taxes and is now tackling enterprise accounting with a new crypto subledger.✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestChandan Lodha: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clodha/ 🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered;(0:00) Coming Up(0:41) Episode intro(2:25) Founding CoinTracker(4:29) How did Google work experience help(6:42) Challenges for businesses with crypto accounting(9:16) Why launch a subledger(14:21) Thanks to our sponsor Octav(16:03) How to build a subledger(19:42) Crypto tax tool v/s subledger(22:34) Should subledger offer AR/AP features(27:14) CoinTracker Enterprise & its subledger features(30:18) Can enterprise users generate tax reports(32:36) Learnings building a subledger(35:58) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance(37:39) Marketing CoinTracker Enterprise(40:34) Upcoming features(41:35) Career opportunities for accountants with crypto(43:46) Practical steps to start using crypto in a business(45:43) Closing Thoughts(46:58) Get $500 off from CoinTracker Enterprise(47:20) Favourite quote
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#86: Launching a Fractional Web3 CFO Practice with Nauman Mustafa from Celo Foundation & HashLedger
Fractional leadership is booming, especially in web3.Startups can tap into C-suite expertise without the full-time salary. But once VC money hits, if your financial ops aren’t solid, you’re not scaling, you’re stalling.Enter the Fractional CFO: a strategic partner handling fundraising, treasury, and audit readiness.In this episode, I chat with Nauman Mustafa (Managing Partner at HashLedger & CFO at Celo Foundation) about what it takes to launch a Fractional Web3 CFO practice.✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestNauman Mustafa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naumannazim/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered;(0:00) Coming Up(0:55) Episode intro(3:00) Why launch a web3 Fractional CFO practice?(8:57) Fractional CFO v/s full-time CFO(13:11) Costs of hiring a Fractional CFO(19:57) Get 14 days for free on Octav(21:38) Pricing mistakes as a Founder(27:01) How to onboard a new client(30:43) Fundraising & CFO role(33:11) Knowledge gaps for a web2 CFO with fundraising(34:53) Get 2 months for free on Request Finance(36:30) Hiring & building a team(41:30) Systems that can scale a Fractional CFO practice(43:12) Web2 & web3 tech stack(45:48) HashLedger CFO services(49:24) Advice for accountants to work in web3(52:42) Nauman’s maxim(53:29) Reach out to Nauman
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#85: Onchain Treasury Allocation with Octav
In traditional finance, Treasury Management is a well-documented practice with plenty of guidance and literature. But in web3, many of those concepts don’t quite apply.Foundations, DAOs, and other web3 startups often hold their treasuries in wallets, with those assets remaining idle.But by strategically allocating part of their treasury to generate yield, these organizations can create an additional revenue stream to help finance daily operations.The companies that understand DeFi tend to have a longer runway. They burn less of their initial funding because DeFi yield covers some or all of their working capital needs. But how do you identify the right protocols? How do you invest according to your risk profile and revenue goals?On Episode 85, I spoke with Mathieu Baril, the CEO & Founder of Octav, to provide us with the tips & tricks on managing a treasury in crypto, & how to leverage DeFi yield. ✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestMathieu Baril: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mbaril010/🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered;(0:00) Coming Up(0:57) Episode intro(2:44) Mathieu’s background & story founding Octav(4:52) Cashflow forecasts for web3 startups(6:31) Investor updates learnings(7:56) Metrics for startups(8:50) Risk management with crypto(10:58) Sequoia anecdote(12:29) DeFi v/s TradFi investments(16:16) Generating yield in DeFi & borrowing with your tokens(17:59) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance(19:37) Insurance cover for DeFi(21:18) Tokenized T-Bills v/s DeFi LPs(23:19) Octav as a DeFi data provider(24:42) Subledgers v/s Octav(26:53) How Beefy Finance uses Octav(28:24) Machine learning model of Octav(30:20) Pricing per wallet address(31:27) Working with family offices(34:07) Challenges building Octav(36:13) Working with accounting & tax firms(38:51) Education around web3 treasury management(39:55) Favourite maxim(41:05) Reach out to Mathieu
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#84: Building an Enterprise Crypto Accounting Software with Cryptio
Crypto sub-ledgers have evolved from their early days when they would only be required to categorize onchain transactions and calculate the realized gain/loss under the appropriate cost basis method.To satisfy their existing customers and bring new players into the industry, sub-ledgers have to adapt to new requirements from local GAAP & IFRS, and regional regulatory requirements like MiCA in Europe or VARA in the UAE. Finding a sub-ledger that only provides crypto bookkeeping features is no longer sufficient. You need one that addresses regulatory & audit readiness. For over six years, Cryptio has powered the crypto back office of more than 400 organizations, including industry heavyweights like Circle, Uniswap, Consensys, Gemini, Paxos, 1inch, Transak, and even the government of El Salvador. On Episode 84, I spoke with Antoine Scalia, the CEO & Founder of Cryptio, to share how they’re building their platform’s 3rd generation to meet regulatory, audit & accounting requirements. ✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestAntoine Scalia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/antoine-scalia/ 🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered:(0:00) Coming Up(0:55) Episode intro(3:08) Series A extension raise & what has changed since 2021(6:16) Macroeconomic shifts happening(8:41) Company culture & branding(12:49) Learnings from hiring(15:57) Does 100% remote work?(17:29) Lack of transparent pricing with subledgers(22:47) How to choose the right Cryptio product( 24:46) Thanks to our sponsor Octav(26:27) What is Cryptio Bedrock(30:41) Fair value module & roll forward reports(34:13) Choosing multiple pricing sources for principal market(36:35) How does Cryptio support a new blockchain(38:39) SOC reports for subledgers(45:22) Use cases for SOC reports(49:15) Audit readiness module(52:41) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance(54:21) Should subledgers offer payment & main ledger features?(59:47) Multi inventory feature for custodians & exchanges(01:04:51) Gaps in crypto accounting education(01:08:47) Learning habits(01:11:13) Are you surprised by your success?(01:13:44) Career opportunities at Cryptio(01:14:44) Reach out to Antoine
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#83: Yield Bearing Stablecoins with Coinshift
The extra steps needed to tap into DeFi protocols often intimidate web3 companies from putting idle capital to work.Many of these companies hold large amounts of stablecoins like USDC and USDT, sitting idle and earning no yield.Since the start of 2025, Coinshift has been redefining how users earn passive income on stable assets through their liquid lending token, csUSDL, backed by U.S. Treasury Bills.Unlike traditional stablecoins like USDC, where users need to actively lend or stake to generate yield, csUSDL is designed to earn yield natively.On Episode 83, I spoke with Tarun Gupta, Founder & CEO of Coinshift, to talk about the company’s business model evolution, what this pivot means for the broader stablecoin market, and how csUSDL is positioning itself in an increasingly competitive space.✅ OUR RESOURCES💌Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestTarun Gupta: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tarun-gupta-1a0973a1/ 🎧 WebsiteFor show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered; (0:00) Coming Up(0:48) Episode intro(2:42) Why pivot & launch a stablecoin(10:27) Business model for payments(12:25) Business model of stablecoin issuers( 17:51) Thanks to our sponsor Octav(19:32) Coinshift’s new stablecoin, csUSDL(21:20) Paxos USDL v/s Circle USDC(23:25) Morpho & Steakhouse Financial(27:11) UX of minting csUSDL(28:54) Paxos USDL & regulatory constraints(31:05) USDC and USDT v/s csUSDL(34:33) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance(36:11) Challenges on csUSDL liquidity(38:19) Team challenges in 2024(40:11) Coinshift DAO & SHIFT token(42:54) Coinshift’s vision(45:08) Lessons learned as a Founder(50:36) Reach out to Tarun
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#82: Managing Data in a Multi-Blockchain World with Noves
As the number of new blockchains and protocols continues to surge, accountants face an increasingly complex challenge in reconciling on-chain data. With no universal standard for blockchain data, and significant variations in how different chains operate, the task becomes even more daunting. Accountants are not engineers, they rely on tools like sub-ledgers and tax tracking platforms to handle crypto accounting and tax compliance. To help us understand how to navigate through managing data in a multi-blockchain world, I spoke with Ben Roy, the CEO & Co-Founder at Noves. Noves offers infinite scalability in on-chain data coverage, enabling seamless retrieval and transformation of data from any chain. Instead of merely providing raw data, Noves enriches and standardizes it into useful formats tailored for accounting and tax purposes. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Ben Roy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-roy-9a9a712/ 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics covered; (0:00) Coming Up (0:55) Episode intro (2:49) Noves origin story (4:32) The current state blockchains, protocols, & tokens (8:06) Why isn’t blockchain data formatted for accounting and tax reporting (12:24) Will onchain data become more standardized (14:22) Should sub-ledgers tackle the data problem (16:25) What should be the sub-ledger role ( 18:50) Thanks to our sponsor Octav (20:31) How does Noves help with managing onchain data (22:56) Use cases for Noves (24:27) How can accountants use Noves (26:27) API products (29:06) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance (30:46) Positioning against competitors like Datai, Octav, DeBank (33:55) AI agents for onchain data (37:50) Closing thoughts (39:42) Reach out to Ben
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#81: Digital Assets Tax Updates for 2025 with RSM US
Donald Trump’s presidency is stirring up buzz in the web3 communities. Builders and users alike are optimistic about how the new administration could shape the future of digital assets, with promises of clearer regulations and greater adoption of cryptocurrencies on the horizon. But while we wait for these changes to take effect, there are already some major tax updates you need to know. To help us navigate these complex but important updates, I spoke with RSM US, one of the largest accounting firms in the world and a leader in the digital assets space, with some of their web3 clients including Ondo, Stellar, Binance, Paradigm, Bitgo and Consensys. And joining us are Skip Carlson, Digital Assets Market Leader at RSM US, and John Cardone, Senior Tax Director. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guests 1. Skip Carlson, Digital Assets Market Leader: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sterlingcarlson/ 2. John Cardone, Senior Tax Director: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-cardone-436412b1/ 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered: (0:00) Coming Up (0:44) Episode intro (2:59) Guests intro & roles at RSM (4:21) Safe harbor relief & wallet-level tracking (9:11) How IRS defines a wallet (11:02) What to look for in a subledger with wallet-level tracking (12:45) TD 121 and new broker reporting requirements (18:49) Notice 25-7 for taxpayers holding crypto with brokers ( 22:34) Thanks to our sponsor Octav ( 24:16) Created Property Argument & staking rewards (30:09) Role of node operator’s geography for recognizing revenue (31:51) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance (33:30) Frozen staking rewards on exchanges (35:45) Valuing airdrops (38:59) Token migrations and tax liabilities (43:13) New regulations under Trump’s administration (44:33) Stand out US states for crypto (46:26) RSM services for digital assets (51:15) Upskilling RSM employees with blockchain (53:20) Areas to pay attention to in 2025 (56:24) Favorite maxim (57:29) How to reach out to John & Skip
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#80: 2024 Wrapped - plus new courses & upgraded community for 2025
In this special New Year's episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on what The Accountant Quits has been up to in 2024 and giving you an exclusive preview of what’s ahead in 2025. I’ll dive into the milestones we’ve hit, from the Crypto Accounting Academy’s relative success to the launch of the Crypto Accounting Accelerator. Plus, I’ll highlight the growth of our weekly newsletter, the debut of our tools page for navigating crypto accounting, finance, and operations, and key takeaways from the conferences I attended in 2024. But that’s not all, I’m also revealing exciting new courses for 2025, the launch of our community offering, and the highly anticipated accreditation that’s been in the works. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered; (0:00) Intro (1:14) Crypto Accounting Academy Growth (4:22) Students’ feedback (5:14) New modules (8:59) Crypto Accounting Accelerator launch (9:57) Podcast recipe for consistency (12:13) Building an email list & weekly newsletter (13:59) Share your thought leadership through articles (15:51) Tools library for crypto accounting (16:45) Lessons from conferences in 2024 (19:29) New courses in 2025 (21:48) New community offering (22:35) NASBA accreditation (24:13) Closing thoughts and quote
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#79: DAO Services in the Cayman Islands with Karel Olivier from Lemma
One school of thought argues that DAOs should avoid any legal structure and remain unregistered in all jurisdictions. But having a legal entity allows the DAO to engage in contracts with other real-world entities, and perhaps the biggest of all, A legal entity protects the individual participants of a DAO from unlimited liability. One structure that has gained popularity is the Cayman Islands Foundation structure. This facilitates opening bank accounts, exchange accounts, or dealing with vendors and market makers for the DAO. Now while this setup doesn't need shareholders, it does require local directors, a Supervisor, a Secretary, and a DAO Administrator. On Episode 79, I spoke with Karel Olivier, Lemma’s CEO & Co-Founder, to discuss their range of DAO Administrator services for DAOs in the Cayman Islands. Some of the DAOs that Lemma works with include SuperRare, Balancer, ENS, Gitcoin, Ethena, and more. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestsLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karel-olivier/ 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered; (0:00) Coming Up (0:50) Episode intro (2:55) Why Cayman Islands & incorporation set up (5:43) Roles of directors, secretary, supervisor & DAO administrator (8:27) DAO operator v/s DAO administrator (9:36) Should director & DAO operator be the same person (12:30) Role of supervisor with governance (15:23) Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy (18:11) Pre-TGE, TGE & Post-TGE (25:11) Highlights of the 2024 amended VASP Act (27:28) Paragraph 8b on vested interest for directors (30:08) Governance process for DAOs & tools (33:59) ENS governance process (35:37) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance (37:18) Opening a bank account & crypto-friendly banks (39:48) Other important service providers (42:15) Common mistakes around grants program (52:36) Lemma services for pre-TGE, TGE, post-TGE (56:04) Story behind Lemma’s name (57:55) Filing requirements for DAO foundations (59:45) Financial reporting of DAO to the community (1:02:15) Closing thoughts (1:04:03) Does Lemma work with other jurisdictions (1:05:47) Karel’s favorite quote (1:07:32) Reach out to Karel
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#78: Becoming a Web3 CFO with Zac Hogg from Solana Foundation
A recurring theme among the CFOs I've interviewed is their common starting point: a lot of them started out at the Big4 accounting firms. I call these places boot camps for accountants - you’re surrounded by some of the brightest minds in accounting, working on massive clients, and the name on your resume alone gets people to take you seriously. Yes, the hours are grueling, and the starting pay is modest. But for those willing to embrace the grind, the payoff isn’t just a paycheck - it’s the foundation for a career that stands out in the crowded accounting space. On Episode 78, I spoke with Zac Hogg, the Financial Controller at the Solana Foundation. Zac’s journey started with nearly three years at PwC in their assurance department before he made the leap into the industry, working in companies like eToro & now the Solana Foundation. ✅ OUR RESOURCES 💌 Join our weekly free newsletter and become a confident web3 Accountant https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guests Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zachoggcpa/ 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit https://www.theaccountantquits.com/podcast Topics Covered: (0:00) Coming Up (0:56) Episode intro (2:59) Experience working at PwC (9:29) Getting a job at eToro (15:04) Why work in web3 (17:06) Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy (19:53) Getting hired at Solana Foundation (22:28) First responsibilities (26:33) Helpful resources when starting out (30:52) Size of the team (33:45) Solana’s growing ecosystem & impact on Finance team (35:35) Web3 tools that integrate with Solana (43:31) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance (45:10) Tools to track staked assets & staking rewards on Solana (48:16) Subledgers & staking features (50:31) External audit learnings (58:42) Web2 accountant v/s web3 accountant (1:03:40) Exciting projects on Solana (1:06:48) Career opportunities in web3
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#77: Building a Crypto SaaS with a Two-Person Team with Bassil Eid & Selem Essaied from Breezing
For the past 2 years, downsizing has been rampant across the board at companies embracing AI. According to Techcrunch, in 2024 alone, there have been more than 130,000 job cuts across 457 companies, from tech giants like Google, Salesforce, Dropbox, Microsoft and Consensys. If existing companies are slashing their workforce, the new startups are also leveraging AI to build a lean workforce. For the past year and a half, Breezing, a crypto subledger, has been quietly hustling, shipping products and onboarding customers - with just two people running the entire show. I spoke with Bassil Eid, the CEO of Breezing and Managing Partner at Detof, a crypto accounting firm, and Selem Essaied, their CTO. Some of their customers include industry-renowned names like SAFE, SingularityNET, Zerion, and well-known accounting firms like Harris & Trotter, Myna, R3gen and OnChainAccounting. ✅ OUR RESOURCES ✨Become a confident Web3 Accountant with our weekly free newsletter: https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode GuestsLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bassil-eid-7701a822/ LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/selemessaied/ 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/ Topics Covered; (0:00) Coming Up (1:13) Episode intro (2:59) Creating a billion-dollar company using AI (6:42) Building a subledger with a 2 person team (11:27) Finding the right investors (13:39) Using different subledgers & running an accounting firm (17:20) Thanks to our sponsor Request Finance (18:59) Features subledger should do well (22:45) Running own nodes v/s using 3rd party node providers (26:03) What accountants want in a subledger (28:02) Should subledgers offer invoicing, payments (32:56) Accounting firms contributing to build Breezing (34:45) Shoutout to accountants (37:06) Learnings from startup failures (40:35) Breezing’s wow features (43:42) Closing invoices without a clearing account (46:42) Breezing’s pricing (49:03) How Bassil keeps learning crypto accounting (53:29) How to be a good subledger salesman (56:16) Favourite maxim (59:47) Reach out to Bassil
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#76: Crypto Powered Neobank for Businesses with Ryan Bozarth from Dakota
With traditional banks, it takes days to move your money, they offer little to no yield, and worst of all, they can freeze your account without warning. Also, you no longer control your assets once deposited - they become liabilities on the bank’s balance sheet. That means if things go wrong, your best hope is a bailout. We’re currently ushering into a new era of banking, one powered by stablecoins. One company building on this vision is Dakota, a crypto-powered neo-bank designed for global businesses. With Dakota, your deposits are fully backed by U.S Treasuries, you can send money globally with no transaction fees, and earn yield on your assets through U.S Treasuries and DeFi products, all within a single platform. On Episode 76, I spoke with Ryan Bozarth, the Co-Founder & CEO of Dakota. If you’re a fan of the smooth, user-friendly experience of Neobanks like Mercury, Brex, Wise, or Revolut, then you’re going to love Dakota. Think all that, but with the speed of crypto - where international wires don’t take days, but minutes. ✅ OUR RESOURCES ✨Become a confident Web3 Accountant with our weekly free newsletter: https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/school/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanbozarth/ X : https://x.com/ryanbozarth_ 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/ Topics covered: (0:00) Episode Intro (2:36) Stripe’s acquisition of Bridge (4:47) More M&As deals (6:09) Stablecoins & cross-border payments (8:17) Adoption of stablecoins from web2 companies (9:13) The rise of neobanks (12:11) Neobanks offering stablecoins (13:03) Role of stablecoins for neobanks (14:23) How to choose stablecoins (16:28) What is Dakota (18:43) Tokenized TBills & DeFi in Dakota (20:28) Banking licence of Dakota (21:46) No transaction fees for transfers & Pricing (23:32) Compliance challenges when onboarding new businesses (27:08) Crafting Dakota’s UX (29:49) Airbnb storyboard framework at Dakota (31:46) Marketing Dakota’s platform (33:31) Onboarding non crypto-native businesses (35:12) Summarizing crypto neobanks (37:38) Ryan’s favourite maxim (38:26) Reaching out to Ryan
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#75: Becoming an Entrepreneurial Crypto Accountant with Patrick Camuso
If you’re a technical accountant who’s also bringing in new business for your company, I have to ask - why haven’t you started your own firm yet? Yeah, the idea sounds terrifying at first. You’re stepping out of the cozy safety net of a guaranteed paycheck. But if you’ve got grit and the guts to be an entrepreneur, why keep waiting? Sure, it’s hard work, but in the end, it’s worth every ounce of effort. It's the satisfaction of creating something that’s yours. Being a crypto accountant is an emerging career field, and I’m excited to talk with someone who took the leap of faith when it was still brand new, 8 years ago. I’m talking about Patrick Camuso, a well-respected and recognizable voice of the web3 industry. He’s the founder of Camuso CPA, a full-service firm specializing in tax, accounting, and advisory services for web3 businesses. ✅ OUR RESOURCES ✨Become a confident Web3 Accountant with our weekly free newsletter: https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickcamuso/ X : https://x.com/PatrickCamuso 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/ Topics Covered: (0:00) Episode Intro (2:38) Why did Patrick quit his job at Deloitte (5:06) Launching a crypto accounting practice (6:49) How Patrick closed his 1st clients (8:59) Expanding from tax to accounting services (11:53) Initial sales call with clients (15:30) Crypto onboarding checklist (17:43) Becoming a forensic accountant in web3 (21:02) Pricing - approach & learnings (24:06) Hiring & onboarding team members (27:25) Interview test with block explorers (29:19) Hiring from the Philippines & Pakistan (30:51) Team culture (32:12) ROI on content creation (35:56) Web2 tech stack like ClickUp, Karbon (37:12) Sub ledgers & tax tracking tools (40:29) Overview of CamusoCPA (43:24) Onchain sales tax (45:01) Get a copy of Navigating The NFT Sales Tax Maze (46:22) If Patrick had to start all over again (48:22) Patrick’s favorite quote (49:51) How to contact Patrick
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# 74: Token Compensation & Tax Compliance, with Dominika Stobiecka from Toku on
Many projects in web3 label themselves as payroll products when they’re payment products. If you’re looking for a crypto payroll provider, an important prerequisite should be that they know how to handle the following; Calculate tax withholdings, Run social security deductions, File taxes for employees Platforms like Deel, Oyster, or Remote.com allow you to have access to a global pool of talent. But, they were built for fiat, not crypto. On Episode 74, Dominika Stobiecka, CEO and Co-Founder of Toku helps us to learn about token-based compensation and tax compliance. Toku is an all-in-one crypto-native solution that helps you manage employment, stablecoins, native token payroll, and token grant administration for your international team in +100 countries. ✅ OUR RESOURCES ✨Become a confident Web3 Accountant with our weekly free newsletter: https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dom-stobiecka/ X : https://x.com/dmnkstbck Topics Covered: (0:00) Episode Intro (2:24) Dominika’s background (4:30) When should web3 projects have a token? (7:30) Crypto compensation trends (11:38) Setting up token compensation (14:02) Choosing the right token compensation instruments - RTUs, RTAs (17:00) Thanks to our sponsor Harris & Trotter (19:04) Download the Token Compensation Primer (19:37) Understanding EOR And PEO services (23:02) Hiring an employee v/s a contractor (25:27) EORs - why crypto expertise matters (29:44) Thanks to our sponsor Web3 Finance Club (31:27) Social security deductions (33:41) Overview of Toku (36:30) Monthly payroll process with Toku (39:43) Toku’s marketing approach (44:36) Developments for crypto adoption (46:12) Closing thoughts (47:22) Dominika's Amelia Earhart Maxim (49:38) How to contact the Toku Team
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#73: Jeremiah Smith from OpenCover on DeFi Insurance
Since 2017, over $8billion has been lost on-chain due to smart contract hacks, infrastructure issues and rugpulls. The figure becomes even larger when you count phishing attacks and scam coins. Yet today the vast majority of on-chain transactions and protocol positions aren’t protected… for example if you look at DeFi current TVL which is around $80billion, there is only about $100m which is covered or insured against protocol risk. One company that is on a mission to make DeFi safe and accessible is OpenCover. Since 2022, OpenCover has protected thousands of businesses and individuals against on-chain transaction and protocol risks. On Episode 73, I spoke with its Co-Founder & CEO, Jeremiah Smith, who provided us a short masterclass into DeFi cover and Insurance, and how finance & accounting professionals at web3 startups & DAOs can mitigate their on-chain risks. Download the State of DeFi Insurance Report ✅ OUR RESOURCES ✨Become a confident Web3 Accountant with our weekly free newsletter: https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits 👉 Twitter(X): https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsjeremiahs/ X : https://x.com/itsJeremiahS Topics Covered: (0:00) TAQ Intro (1:08) Episode Intro (3:05) Jeremiah’s background (5:00) 3 main onchain risks (8:15) Financial impact of onchain risks (10:03) Best practices for keys management (11:30) Protecting against transaction & post-transaction risk (14:08) How to mitigate protocol risk (16:45) Thanks to our sponsor Harris & Trotter (18:49) Insurance for tokenized T-Bills (20:52) How to choose DeFi Cover (26:10) When should CFOs consider DeFi insurance (28:35) Overview of OpenCover (32:56) Thanks to our sponsor Web3 Finance Club (34:38) Is OpenCover an underwriter (37:42) Pricing (38:54) The future of AI & DeFi Insurance (41:45) OpenCover partnership (44:28) Challenges for adoption (46:11) Closing Thoughts (47:14) Jeremiah's Pablo Picasso Maxim (48:44) Reach out to Jeremiah
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#72: Audit & Attestation Tools for Digital Assets with Jeremy Nau from LedgerLens
As the world moves “on-chain,” so too will the need for auditors. With auditors naturally evolving their practices from periodic paper reporting, to digitally native, API-enabled, Oracle-ready, and real-time reporting. But how do auditors bridge the gap and how can the auditing industry as a whole remove the technical barriers to entry? Enter LedgerLens, a platform made for auditors, by auditors. Providing a suite of crypto-audit and attestation tools, enabling auditors to complete financial statement audits with digital assets on the balance sheet. LedgerLens also provides additional “Proof of Reserve”-specific tooling, enabling you to take on new engagements for stablecoins, exchanges, and RWAs. ✅ OUR RESOURCES ✨Become a confident Web3 Accountant with our weekly free newsletter: https://www.theaccountantquits.com/newsletter 🙌 Join the next cohort of the Crypto Accounting Academy and learn how to manage a business using crypto https://www.theaccountantquits.com/crypto-accounting-academy ✊ Follow The Accountant Quits on Socials 👉 LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/umarmhassam/ 👉 Twitter: https://x.com/accountantquits 👉 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@theaccountantquits 🎙️ Follow Episode Guest Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremynau-cpa-cma/ X.com: https://x.com/JeremyNauCPA 🎧 Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/ Topics covered; (0:00) TAQ intro (1:04) Episode intro (2:58) Being at Armanino & FTX Saga (8:24) Proving ownership of private keys (14:29) Setting up in-house nodes (16:55) Using LedgerLens to validate audit assertions (19:17) Crypto knowledge to use LedgerLens (20:29) Sponsor Harris & Trotter | Scholarship & Job Guarantee Program (22:40) Is LedgerLens live or in private beta (23:42) Onboarding and 1st audit engagement (26:14) Proof-of-reserves toolkits (32:14) Target audience for proof-of-reserves toolkits (33:00) Trusting oracle networks & role of auditors with RWA (36:43) Tricky categories for RWA (38:52) Thanks to our sponsor Web3 Finance Club (40:34) Do auditors rely on subledger data (43:23) How to choose a subledger (45:01) The Network Firm & its services (46:45) Steps to become a Crypto Accounting Practice - Article (52:00) Main Takeaways (53:31) Jeremy's Maxim - Proverbs 23:23 (55:04) How to contact Jeremy
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#71: Internal Controls for Digital Assets with David Byrd from EY
When it comes to internal controls, management is responsible for designing, implementing, and maintaining effective internal controls. Auditors on the other hand would test for the operating effectiveness of these controls. Many auditors today lack the specialized expertise needed to provide assurance for companies holding digital assets, but if we are rooting for cryptocurrencies to become mainstream, auditors will have to quickly come to grips with how to provide assurance for digital assets. Blockchain has the potential to allow auditors to have absolute assurance over on-chain transactions, which is an enormous leap forward from the limiting sample-based approach currently used. To help us know understand the knowledge gap, I spoke with David Byrd, a Partner and the Blockchain Strategy Leader at E&Y US. Topics covered; TAQ intro (0:00) Episode intro (1:04) David’s story into blockchain (2:43) Challenges specific to digital assets (4:28) Centralized Custody vs. Self-Custody (7:40) Good practices around storage of private keys (11:59) Sponsor Harris & Trotter's Scholarship & Job Guarantee Program (16:28) Completeness and accuracy of data on blockchains (18:32) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (25:15) How not having a SOC 2 –Type II report will affect your audit process (26:57) Understanding audit readiness (33:33) Independence threat of audit readiness (37:51) Digital assets services provided by EY US (39:16) Proof of reserve post-FTX meltdown (42:08) Real-world blockchain use cases (45:11) How web3 auditors & accountants can upskill (47:19) The 3 main points to summarize (51:33) How we can make the future of crypto better (53:19) How to reach out to David (54:17) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow David Byrd: LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-byrd-2727054/ Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#70: Financial Reporting for DAOs with adcv from Steakhouse Financial
There is no current standard framework on how transactions within DAOs should be structured and accounted for. Transactions on the blockchain or so-called block explorers are cash-based and do not comply with accrual-based accounting. Today many companies having on-chain transactions use crypto sub-ledgers, but the essence of DAOs is to reduce the financial asymmetry of information and instead offer real-time and transparent accounting records. One company making a significant contribution to advancing the state of on-chain accounting is Steakhouse Financial, a web3 consulting services firm, which has developed a methodology to offer real-time & independently verifiable financial statements for DAOs. Steakhouse contributors collaborate with industry-renowned names such as MakerDAO, ENS, Lido, Morpho, Badger, and more. To help us understand this novel way of accounting and reporting on-chain transactions for DAOs, I spoke with Adrian (also known as ‘@adcv_’ on Twitter, the Co-Founder at Steakhouse Financial. Topics covered; Episode intro (0:47) Adrian’s story into blockchain (3:10) Starting Steakhouse Financial (5:37) Using Dune Analytics to prepare MakerDAO’s financials (7:17) Can Steakhouse commercialize Dune Analytics dashboards as a product (14:30) Dune Analytics dashboards for Lido, ENS (15:52) How to start with Dune Analytics (18:22) SQL knowledge to learn Dubne Analytics (19:30) Using owner labels (21:59) Web3 tools used by Steakhouse Financial (24:03) Using AI for crypto accounting (26:27) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (27:51) Benchmarks & performance attribution for DAO treasuries (29:38) Diversifying into wBTC, stETH, sDAI (36:30) DAO Accounting research paper, and should DAOs use sub ledgers (38:11) What is a rebased token and wrapping stETH to wstETH (42:47) Accounting for stETH & wstETH (46:58) How CFOs can manage treasury with staking (47:53) Overview of Steakhouse’s services (57:13) How should accountants upskill with blockchain (1:01:17) How to reach out to Adrian (1:04:19) Highly recommended reading - Nikolai's principles (1:04:58) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow adcv_: Twitter: https://x.com/adcv_ Follow Steakhouse Financial: Twitter: https://x.com/steakhousefi Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#69: MPC wallets for digital assets operations with Bentzi Rabi from Utila
In its early days, businesses used crypto mainly for trading. However, more use cases have emerged in recent times. Making payments with crypto as we all know is lightning fast, but businesses utilizing self-custodial wallets need a full-fledged infrastructure with advanced customization. For example, managing user permissions and roles, creating approval workflows, and having quick integrations with exchanges or DeFi apps. The war for enterprise wallets is raging, and teams have to decide whether to opt for a fully decentralized multisig solution or rather a centralized MPC wallet infrastructure. To help us understand how companies can use crypto for operations and manage their treasury, I spoke with Bentzi Rabi, the CEO and founder of Utila, an enterprise-grade solution for digital assets. Topics covered; Episode intro (0:41) Challenges of web3 teams for operations (1:23) Multisig v/s MPC wallets (3:41) Why would a Gnosis Safe user switch to an MPC wallet (7:36) Thanks to our sponsor Cryptoworth (11:07) Onboarding with Utila (13:09) Receiving payments use case (17:39) DeFi & CEX connections (20:55) On-ramping & off-ramping (21:59) Integrations available (24:00) How Utila compares with Fireblocks (25:57) What companies should use Utila (29:50) Challenges for mainstream adoption (32:47) Bentzi’s favourite maxim (34:42) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Bentzi Rabi: LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bentzi-rabi/ Twitter: https://x.com/bentzzi Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#68: Crypto Payments for a Globally Distributed Workforce with Hugo Finkelstein from Rise
Can crypto payments accentuate the trend for a globally distributed workforce? More and more people in emerging markets such as freelancers are using crypto to get paid, and having crypto as a payment option enables people to get employed anywhere in the world. So if you as an employer want to have the best talent globally, using crypto as a means of payment seem to work hand in hand. One company that has garnered substantial growth over the past months is Rise, which offers a platform to pay employees and contractors globally with crypto and has processed more than $150million in volume of payments to date. Some of their clients include t3rn, Bitcoin.com, Velodrome Finance, LIDO, P2P, Zen Academy to name a few. On Episode 68, I spoke with Hugo Finkelstein, the Co-Founder & CEO of Rise, on how compensation is evolving & the incentives companies are proposing to attract talent globally. Topics covered; Episode intro (0:47) Hugo’s background and story behind Rise (2:28) The current regulatory environment for crypto payments (8:42) Tax considerations (10:55) Web2 companies using stablecoins (13:10) Payroll for a globally distributed workforce (14:32) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (16:05) Rise overview & onboarding (17:47) Using a SAFE to fund Rise account (20:36) Rise ID & keeping payroll transactions private (21:56) What does compliance mean (25:27) 1099s for contractors (27:46) Success stories at Rise (28:21) How is Rise different from its competitors - Request Finance, Coinshift, Acctual, BitPay, Parcel, Niural, Toku, & Franklin (29:48) Upcoming features for Rise (32:09) How EOR works for a South African employee (33:05) Closing thoughts (34:50) Using Rise ID to skip KYC checks (35:45) Maxim of Hugo Finkelstein (37:22) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Hugo Finkelstein: LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugo-finkelstein/ Twitter: https://x.com/hugfink Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#67: Getting Ready for MiCA with Anne-Grace Kleczewski & Anne-Lorinne Mognetti from MME
The deadline for new crypto regulation in the EU, termed the Market in Crypto-Assets (MiCA) is fast approaching, and many are wondering - What exactly does MiCA entail, and how can you prepare for it? For starters, MiCA applies to a broad range of entities providing services related to crypto, including exchanges, custodians, wallet providers, brokers, investment firms, and more. There are two key compliance deadlines based on the nature of your services: June and December 2024. Now in the absence of a dedicated compliance specialist, the task of ensuring your web3 startup is MiCA-ready might fall on you, the Head of Operations or Finance. Being proactive and seeking legal expertise early is crucial. To help us get prepared for MiCA, I spoke with Anne-Grace Kleczewski & Anne-Lorinne Mognetti from MME. MME has been instrumental in the development of the "Crypto Valley" ecosystem and is a leading Swiss firm offering comprehensive legal, tax, and compliance services for digital assets and blockchain technology. Topics covered: Episode intro (00:47) Anne-Grace’s background (2:51) Anne-Lorinne’s background (6:21) What is MiCA & why it’s being introduced (7:41) Scope & requirements for MiCA compliance (10:42) MiCA & DeFi (13:11) Deadline of 30th December 2024 (19:19) Grandfathering rule and verifying the level of decentralization (22:46) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (27:17) MiCA v/s current crypto regulations (29:11) Passporting feature & obligations for non EU companies (37:03) Reverse solicitation exemption (39:55) Attractive jurisdictions for non-EU companies (43:59) How MME helps with MiCA compliance (47:24) Services most requested by accountants & CFOs (50:26) How to make DeFi more accessible (53:35) Closing thoughts (58:20) Maxim of Anne-Grace & Anne-Lorinne (59:07) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Anne-Grace Kleczewski: LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-grace-kleczewski-789baa81/ Follow Anne-Lorinne Mognetti: LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-lorinne-mognetti-766586152/ Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#66: Becoming a Web3 CFO with Greg Mocnik from Celestia Labs
A recurring theme among the CFOs I've interviewed is their common starting point: many began their careers at top accounting firms, such as the Big4. And the benefits of working for them are not insignificant - you are often surrounded by the brightest minds in accounting, work with some of the biggest clients, and your experience commands respect. Despite the long hours and relatively low initial compensation, many professionals accept these challenges, hoping that the skills and experiences gained will provide a competitive edge later in their careers. The Accountant Quits aims to highlight the stories of CFOs who have successfully made the leap from traditional finance to blockchain. On Episode 66, I spoke with Greg Mocnik, the CFO at Celestia Labs and previous Head of Finance at dYdX Foundation, supporting the growth of the dYdX protocol, one of the most prominent decentralized exchanges. Greg spent nearly five years at EY in their advisory department, and since many of you have similar backgrounds and aspirations to start working in web3, I hope this episode will serve as a source of inspiration. Topics covered: Episode intro (00:47) Early years working at E&Y (2:39) Working at Meta & learning SQL (8:18) Getting hired at dYdX Foundation (9:36) Hiring process at dYdX Foundation (12:41) Challenges starting at dYdX Foundation (14:25) Extracting information from block explorers through Etherscan API (19:49) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (23:47) Using Acctual as an AR & AP tool (25:30) Other tools for the web3 CFO (30:25) Learning from external audits & need for documentation (31:38) Skills required to be a web3 accountant (39:25) Taking time off (43:31) Greg’s favourite maxim (47:55) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Greg Mocnik: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/in/gregmocnik/ Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#65: Statement of Digital Assets (SoDA) with Samuel Leichman
Blockchain technology is open source right, but to advance the development of accounting standards for digital assets, we need accounting bodies to be more open for collaboration in these changing times. This revolution cannot take place in an ivory tower. A group of accountants at Propeller Industries have answered the call, and are pioneering a new reporting methodology for digital assets, through the Statement of Digital Assets, or short for SoDA. SoDA is a standardized reporting methodology that bridges Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) with on-chain holdings. By providing a transparent lens through which to view digital assets, SoDA demystifies the often-opaque GAAP balance sheets, offering stakeholders a clear picture of a firm's liquidity and digital asset holdings. On Episode 65, I spoke with Sam Leichman, the leader of the Blockchain Practice Area at Propeller Industries, who is leading the SoDA initiative. Propeller provides ‘full stack’ CFO and accounting outsourced services to VC-backed startups. Currently they work with over 50 web3 clients including Optimism, cLabs, Figment, POAP, and VeeFriends. Topics covered; Episode intro (00:47) Sam’s background & story learning blockchain (3:04) FASB digital assets 2023 update (9:26) SoDA vision’s & origin story (14:44) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (23:30) Contributing to SoDA (25:12) Disclosures required in SoDA (29:54) Is SoDA for management reports or annual financial statements (33:30) SoDA reports in sub-ledgers (35:35) Use cases for SoDA (39:55) Propeller Industries & its web3 accounting services (43:46) Roadmap for SoDA (47:17) Favorite maxim of Sam (50:06) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Samuel Leichman: LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samleichman/ Twitter: https://x.com/samleichman Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#64: CFO's Guide for Tokenomics with Roderick McKinley
The tokenomics is the catch-all of the elements that make a particular crypto project particularly valuable and interesting to investors. That includes everything from its initial minting process, the token’s supply, and what utility it has. Understanding tokenomics is crucial for making informed investment decisions. A project with well-designed incentives for buying and holding tokens is more likely to thrive and endure than one that lacks a robust ecosystem around its token. While the founding team of a project will be responsible for designing the tokenomics of a project, for this episode, I’d like to go through the CFO’s guide for tokenomics. On Episode 64, I spoke with Roderick Mckinley, a Tokenomics & Finance Advisor who has helped projects raise over $100m, by structuring their token sale offers and designing their token economies. Some of his clients include ParallelChain, Ternoa, Paid Ignition Launchpad, and ShopX. Roderick is also a prolific content creator, and on his YouTube channel Token Design, he spends time educating others about the opportunities being unlocked by blockchain. Recently he joined the Token Engineering Academy to teach a course on OnChain Analytics using Dune & ChatGPT. Topics Covered; Episode intro (00:47) Roderick’s background & story learning blockchain (3:04) Defining tokenomics (5:54) Value accrual concept (8:58) Web3 project examples capturing value (11:45) Does every web3 project need a token (16:41) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (21:26) Plan for launching a token (23:08) Financial modeling with tokens (28:07) Managing token distribution - investors & employees (33:07) Token design services offered by Roderick (35:58) OnChain analytics course using Dune and ChatGPT (39:05) Emerging career opportunities with token engineering (42:57) Real-world asset tokenization interest (45:14) Other areas in web3 Roderick is paying attention to (50:27) Favorite quote (53:36) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Roderick McKinley: LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roderickmckinley/ Twitter: https://x.com/RealTokenDesign Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#63: Crypto Technical Accounting (SAFT, Derivatives, Staking, Stablecoins) with Andrei Belonogov
Digital assets and their underlying blockchain technology are an evolving area, and as such accountants frequently face the daunting challenge of scrutinizing existing accounting standards to derive the most reasonable interpretation. Innovation outpaces the speed of accounting regulation, leaving standard-setting bodies like the FASB for US GAAP or the IASB for IFRS struggling to keep pace. Whilst the Wall Street Journal reported that 300,000 accountants quit their jobs between 2019 and 2021, There is an emerging class of accountants who have upskilled themselves to understand blockchain for accounting. On Episode 63, I spoke with Andrei Belonogov, the Managing Partner of TechAccountingPro, a company that provides accounting & US GAAP advisory services for digital assets. Andrei is not your typical accountant. His blog focused on deciphering the accounting treatment of digital assets under US GAAP was recognized in the top 100 accounting blogs by Feedspot. Topics covered; Episode intro (00:47) SAFT accounting (2:54) SAFT measurement with & without active market (5:08) Token development costs (6:05) Accounting for smart contracts (7:23) Receivables & embedded derivative (8:56) Staking rewards for delegators (12:33) Do sub-ledgers help with tracking staking income (15:14) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (16:52) Classification between non-current & current assets (18:33) Accounting for stablecoins (21:49) Andrei’s story transitioning to web3 (25:24) Services offered by TechAccountingPro (27:40) The act of writing (29:48) Why should accountants learn blockchain (31:21) Should accountants learn how to code (34:10) How to reach out to Andrei (36:01) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Andrei Belonogov: LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbelonogov/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/tech_accounting Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#62: Global Crypto Payroll through EOR Model with Nabin Banskota from Niural
COVID has changed the game for companies hiring internationally. Previously, if an employer didn’t have an established business, or a legal entity in the jurisdiction where the foreign worker lived, often their only option would be to hire the worker as an independent contractor. Companies couldn’t hire full-time employees and were thus unable to grant health insurance, pension, and other benefits, like stock options. Enter the Employer of Records model which allows companies without entities abroad to employ workers full time and give them benefits they couldn’t grant to them as contractors. A few of the notable names in web2 would be Deel, Oyster or Remote.com Now if you’re a web3 team and wish to pay employees in crypto, these companies offer limited features for Global crypto payroll. Enter Niural, the EOR platform designed for crypto, which also provides a single HR tech platform for Payroll, Contractor Management, Employee Benefits, and Bill Pay. Some of their web3 users include companies such as Alliance DAO, Tensor, Flare, Hadron Labs, Omni, and Glo Dollar to name a few. On Episode 62, I spoke with its Founder Nabin Banskota, a serial entrepreneur with 20+ years of experience in fin-tech, HR, payroll, and sales to learn more about how they facilitate global crypto payroll. Topics covered; Episode intro (00:47) Nabin’s background & story behind Niural (3:27) Trends in web3 hiring (5:38) Hiring as a contractor (10:37) Hiring an employee & EOR model (13:07) Difference between EOR & PEO (14:55) Adoption of crypto from web2 companies (17:55) Overview of Niural (23:28) Monthly payroll process through Niural (26:52) Countries eligible for onboarding (29:25) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (32:08) Experience of a true payroll product with a paystub (33:50) Withdrawing funds from Niural (36:54) Roadmap & upcoming milestones (39:37) Trends accelerating crypto adoption (42:09) Closing thoughts (45:35) Favorite quote or maxim (47:32) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Nabin Banskota : LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nabinbanskota/ Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#61: Becoming a Web3CFO with Léopold Wenger from Cometh
If you’ve previously worked as an accountant or auditor at a Big4 or other accounting firm, you’ve been through a rigorous & highly sought-after working methodology and have a huge boost on your resume. You’re now equipped to get your foot in the door of most firms looking to hire a Financial Controller, Head of Finance, or even a CFO. Being a product of Big4 myself, I have no regret looking back at the long hours and pressure my audit assignments meant, but in the long term, the lower salaries as compared to an industry role was a turn-off. With opportunities in web3 for accountants surging, I spoke with Léopold Wenger, the CFO at Cometh, a web3 development platform for developers to help build games and DApps. Just like me, Léopold started his career as a financial auditor and his desire to learn emerging technologies like blockchain & AI meant he was taking his career growth into his own hands and not remaining complacent. On Episode 61, Léopold shares his story which can hopefully inspire other accountants and auditors from Big4 companies to also make that transition. Topics covered; Episode intro (00:47) Léo’s background (2:52) Pre-requisites to work for a web3 startup (4:57) Challenges working as a web3 CFO (8:23) Advice for a CFO starting in web3 (11:07) Managing financial reporting (12:51) Time taken to build a sub-ledger (15:20) Outsourcing of accounting (16:35) Internal controls for digital assets (18:35) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (21:50) Advice for Big4 accountants to transition to web3 (23:51) Regulation in France with PSAN (25:59) Crypto-friendly banks in France (29:27) Paying employees & vendors in crypto in France (31:35) M&A opportunities in web3 gaming (32:55) Mainstream adoption through gaming (35:48) How to contact Léo (38:51) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Léopold Wenger: Twitter: http://@leo_wgr LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/l%C3%A9opold-wenger-076015b4/ Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#60: Enterprise Accounting Software for Crypto & Fiat with Request Finance
A finance technology stack is the set of tools that a business uses to streamline and optimize its financial and accounting processes. These tools and software typically fall into categories like payments, payroll, spend & expense management, accounting & reporting, financial planning, and analysis. Until now, web3 teams have had a fragmented finance stack, thereby increasing the manual workload of running their finance and accounting processes. Request Finance the web3 industry leader for invoicing, payroll & expenses, with a payment processing volume of more than $700m under its belt understood & capitalized on the pain points most web3 CFOs & accountants face. Recently Request Finance acquired Consola Finance, a crypto sub ledger to offer an all-in-one finance stack for both crypto payments & accounting. With more businesses adopting stablecoins as a means of payment, I spoke with Christophe Lassuyt, the CEO of Request Finance, and Christophe Fonteneau, their Head of Partnerships & Strategy. Topics covered: Episode intro (00:48) Learnings driving stablecoins adoption (2:47) What is Request Finance (7:08) Scaling product growth (8:57) Launching Crypto-to-fiat payments (14:58) Difference with Fiat-to-Crypto payments (17:11) Why Request Finance acquired Consola Finance (19:40) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (22:52) Loyalty for crypto sub-ledgers (24:34) Is Request Finance now competing with other sub-ledgers? (27:40) The success of the subscription pricing model (31:02) The story behind the Web3CFO Club (35:46) Vision for the Web3CFO Club (38:00) Paid partners of the Club (40:01) Roadmap & corporate cards (41:27) ROI between side events & conference booths (43:41) Advice for being an entrepreneur (46:37) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Christophe Lassuyt: Twitter: https://twitter.com/LassuytChristop LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophel1310/ Follow Christophe Fonteneau: Twitter: https://twitter.com/chfonteneau LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fonteneau/ Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#59: AI & Blockchain for Accounting with Kareem Khattab from Entendre
Blockchain at its core allows the transfer of value without an intermediary and offers an immutable ledger that provides real-time access to financial data while AI-based applications can be used to analyze financial data, and automate repetitive tasks like data entry, A powerful combo for accounting. We’re on the brink of a fundamental transformation and the impact on the accounting industry will be generational. So where do accountants go from here? Will AI replace accountants and 10 years from now, what will the accountants of today be doing? To help us find some answers through a discussion on the intersection of Blockchain and AI in accounting, today I’ve the pleasure to be speaking with Kareem Khattab, the Founder & CEO of Entendre Finance, an AI-powered crypto accounting software to help automate your fiat + digital assets activities. Topics covered; Episode intro (00:48) Kareem’s background (2:35) The intersection of AI & Blockchain (5:16) Onchain data collection with AI (7:00) Tracking & labelling of onchain transactions with AI (9:27) Challenges building a sub ledger (12:52) AI agents for crypto (14:23) Overview of Entendre Finance (17:33) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (20:30) Data privacy with AI (22:13) Using ChatGPT prompts in Entendre (25:54) Onboarding with Entendre (29:35) Positioning against competitors like Cryptio, Bitwave, Cryptoworth, TRES (31:56) What does Entendre actually mean (35:39) Integrations with web3 companies like Loop, Rain, Hedgey Finance (37:36) How can accountants upskill with AI (39:29) Acceleration of crypto with AI (42:52) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Kareem Khattab: Twitter: https://twitter.com/kvreem LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kareem-khattab/ Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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#58: Company Formation for Web3 Startups & DAOs with Han Verstraete from Otonomos
Anyone who decides to build a project in web3 involuntarily accepts to have to surmount heaps of legal challenges, to be legally compliant. Many web3 businesses are borderless and this places a big regulatory burden, especially for those in their very early days. Whether you are a centralized or decentralized project in web3, planning to issue tokens, finding the appropriate legal structure for your DAO, and understanding the legal implications of distributing tokens to employees, speaking with an experienced web3 legal specialist might save you hours and money in the long term. You don’t want to be losing sleep thinking “Are we allowed to do that” or “Have we overlooked something in our legal structure” To help us better understand how to define the legal strategy for your web3 startup and DAO, I spoke with Han Verstraete, the CEO & Founder of Otonomos. Since 2015, Otonomos has helped builders and investors in crypto form and maintain their legal entities in all major jurisdictions around the world. Topics covered; Episode intro (00:48) Han’s background and story founding Otonomos (2:34) What is a Token SPV (5:45) VASP jurisdictions to issue tokens (8:59) When to choose BVI, Cayman Islands, Switzerland (12:20) Legal structures for DAOs (15:27) Best jurisdictions for DAOs (23:58) Thanks to our sponsor Web3Finance Club (29:09) Do you even need a bank? (30:57) Framework for legal structure for web3 startups (38:00) Overview of Otonomos (43:14) OtoCo & creating an on-chain company (47:27) Getting started with OtoCo (52:46) Adoption of crypto in 2024 (53:56) Closing thoughts (58:39) How to reach out to Han (01:01:26) Follow The Accountant Quits: LinkedIN: linkedin.com/company/the-accountant-quits Twitter: twitter.com/accountantquits Follow Han Verstraete: Twitter: https://twitter.com/hanverstraete LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hanverstraete/ Review If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes. Website For show notes and past guests, please visit theaccountantquits.com/podcast/
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The Accountant Quits helps finance professionals build real-world Web3 finance skills for accounting, treasury, and finance roles in crypto-native companies.Learn alongside a global community through the Crypto Accounting Academy and Crypto Treasury Management Academy.Our podcast features practitioners building and running finance teams in Web3.Website - www.theaccountantquits.com
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