The Fear of Change Podcast

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The Fear of Change Podcast

Fear of Change Podcast: Helping you to challenge your perspective, see fear as only one option, and that finding yourself is a lot of work, but totally worth it. Join therapist Jennifer Froemel in discovering a new you that handles change a little bit better.

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    When Your Body Says No: Listening to the Wisdom of Fatigue, Anxiety and Burnout

    Why is your fatigue and anxiety a signal that you need to listen to and not a problem to fix? How often do you push past your limits instead of asking what your body needs? What might change if you treated rest as essential, not something to earn? In this episode I'm inviting you to rethink fatigue and anxiety—not as problems to fix, but as signals your body is using to protect you. I explain that your body is often the first part of you to recognize misalignment, long before your mind or emotions catch up. When something in your life isn't working, your body speaks through symptoms like chronic fatigue, anxiety, emotional overwhelm, burnout, and physical issues. These aren't random—they're messages. I walk through the five most common ways your body says "no": deep, unrelenting fatigue; constant alertness or anxiety; irritability and emotional overload; burnout and loss of joy; and physical symptoms like aches, digestive issues, or unexplained changes in your body. Burnout, in particular, isn't laziness—it's depletion. A big theme I emphasize is how often we override these signals because we've been conditioned to push through. But real strength isn't ignoring pain—it's listening to it and responding. To reconnect with your body, I encourage both emotional and practical shifts: rest without needing to earn it, stop carrying what isn't yours, notice where you're out of alignment and make changes, adjust unrealistic expectations, spend time in gentle movement and nature, and be honest with yourself about what's actually going on. Ultimately, when you begin listening and responding to your body, you rebuild trust with yourself. You create space for real rest and a more sustainable way of living. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Our Needs as Women Redefined with Mara Glatzel

    What happens when you stop putting your needs last? Are you truly listening to your inner voice, or drowning it out? What if your needs are not burdens, but guidance? In this episode, I sit down with Mara Glatzel to have an honest conversation about what it really means to stop putting your needs last. We explore how many women have been conditioned to minimize their needs, often only tending to them in the margins, and how that pattern leads to burnout and disconnection from ourselves. I share what I've seen in my own work—how easy it is to ignore that quiet inner voice asking for care, attention, and change. Even when we try to override it, it doesn't go away. It just gets harder to hear. We talk about the importance of not only listening to that voice, but actually closing the gap between hearing it and taking action, even in small ways. Mara reframes needs in a powerful way: not as burdens, but as information. Together, we unpack how our needs can act as guideposts toward a more aligned and sustainable life. Even if we don't yet know how to meet them, learning to acknowledge and stay with them is a crucial step toward building a life where we feel secure, supported, and fully ourselves. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Fear of Success: Why Growth Feels Dangerous

    What if your fear of success is really a fear of who you'll have to become? How often do you hold yourself back, not from failure, but from visibility and growth? What might change if success felt safe instead of threatening? In this podcast, I explore the idea that fear of success isn't about a lack of ambition—it's about the nervous system associating growth with pressure, visibility, judgment, and even strain in relationships. So even when we want more, we can find ourselves holding back. I talk through some of the signs of this, like procrastination, minimising achievements, staying busy instead of moving forward, or shrinking to keep others comfortable. For me, a key realisation was that success doesn't just change your circumstances—it changes your identity, and that can feel unsettling. When we stop fearing success, we naturally become more confident, stop apologising for wanting more, and allow opportunities to come to us. We expand rather than contract. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    M&A Work: A Chat About Insights from the Gut with Daniel King

    When M&A decisions affect livelihoods and relationships, can they ever be purely rational? In data-driven environments, how much should leaders trust their gut instinct? If no decision is perfect, how do leaders balance intuition with accountability? In this episode, I sit down with Daniel King to explore the human side of mergers and acquisitions—work that's often framed as purely strategic, but in reality carries deep emotional weight. We talk about how these decisions impact not just businesses, but people's livelihoods, relationships, and the care of patients, and how that intensity shows up during the M&A process. We also discuss how this perspective has shaped the way he leads, giving him more grace for both himself and others. When you recognize that everyone is doing the best they can with the information they have, it shifts how you carry responsibility. Toward the end, we dive into where intuition actually lives. For Daniel, it's a physical, embodied sense—something he feels in his core that helps him read situations in real time. It's a reminder that bringing your full self into your work isn't a weakness; it's often where your greatest insight comes from. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Love After Transformation: How to Stay Connected as You Grow

    What happens to our long-term romantic partnerships when we begin to grow and change? Are the tensions you're experiencing a sign that something is wrong, or simply that something is changing? What happens when you stop hiding your growth, and start inviting your partner into it? In this episode, I explore what happens to our relationships when we begin to grow and evolve as individuals. One of the key ideas I share is that personal transformation doesn't happen in isolation—when we change, our relationships inevitably change too.  I also walk through some of the signs that you might be outgrowing the current dynamic of your relationship—like feeling misaligned with things that used to feel fine, craving deeper emotional connection, or setting new boundaries. These aren't signs that the relationship is failing; they're signals that it needs to evolve. Ultimately, I encourage openness and communication. If you're the one changing, share what you're learning about yourself without making demands. Let your partner into your process.  Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Stopping Anxiety: Talks with Jodi Aman

    What if your anxiety isn't something you have to live with, but something you can unlearn? How much of what you feel is coming from your thoughts, rather than your reality? What would change if you started speaking to yourself with more positive objectivity and less criticism? In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Jodi Aman to explore a powerful idea: that anxiety isn't something we're stuck with, but something we can actually unlearn. Jodi shares how her early experiences with community work and a desire for purpose led her into social work, and eventually into helping people better understand and overcome anxiety. We also unpack Jodi's perspective that anxiety is essentially leftover fear—an extension of the body's natural fear response that we don't actually need. While fear can be useful in real danger, anxiety tends to keep us stuck in unnecessary suffering. This conversation is a reminder that by changing how we relate to our thoughts and ourselves, we can start to loosen anxiety's grip and move toward a more grounded, compassionate way of living. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Stepping Into Transformation to Create Mental Wealth with Joyce Marter

    What does it take to step into a completely new version of yourself? What happens when you stop hiding your struggles and allow yourself to be seen? How might your relationships change when you finally choose yourself? In this episode, I speak with Joyce Marter about what it really takes to step into a new version of yourself—especially when it means letting go of what once defined you. She shares how leaving her private practice and moving into public speaking wasn't a clean or easy transition, but one marked by loss, financial strain, and deep personal reckoning.  We also explore the fear of being seen. Joyce opens up about how hiding her struggles kept her stuck in shame, and how sharing them—first with her team, then publicly—became a turning point. That vulnerability didn't push people away; it drew them closer.  At the core of our conversation is this idea: transformation requires honesty, both with yourself and with others. And when you stop hiding and start showing up fully, it changes everything—from your work to your relationships to how you see your own worth. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Breaking Cycles: Healing the Patterns You Inherited

    What happens when personal growth changes the relationships that once felt natural? How do you know when a relationship is no longer aligned with who you're becoming? When that realization comes, how do you honor it without guilt? In this podcast I explore how the patterns we live out aren't just behaviors, but deeply rooted emotional blueprints—many of which we've inherited across generations. I explain how science shows that we are connected intergenerationally, especially through maternal lines, and how emotional and behavioral imprints can be passed down long before we're even born. I reflect on what it really means to break a cycle, emphasizing that it's not about blaming our families or rejecting our past. Instead, it's about becoming aware of patterns that were created for survival—often in dysregulated environments—and recognizing that while they once protected us, they may now be holding us back. I also encourage a powerful moment of reflection—taking a breath and deciding that the cycle can stop with you. It's about releasing what no longer serves your future while honoring where you came from through your healing. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Outgrowing Relationships: When Your Personal Growth Changes Everything

    What happens when personal growth changes the relationships that once felt natural? How do you know when a relationship is no longer aligned with who you're becoming? When that realization comes, how do you honor it without guilt? In this podcast, I talk about what it means to outgrow a relationship and why personal growth can sometimes change the dynamics we once felt comfortable in. Outgrowing someone doesn't mean they are toxic or bad; it simply means that the person you are today may no longer be compatible with the relationship dynamic that once worked. I discuss several common types of relationships people tend to outgrow, including those where you are expected to overgive, environments where you had to stay small or quiet, energy-draining relationships, and stagnant friendships where you are always the one carrying the connection. I also share some signs that you may be outgrowing a relationship, such as conversations feeling repetitive or draining, feeling like you have to censor parts of yourself, feeling responsible for someone else's emotions, or noticing that you feel smaller or more anxious around them. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Quiet Quitting or Quiet Awakening? What You're Actually Feeling

    Who is benefiting most from your overfunctioning? Is the exhaustion you feel maybe not about quitting, but more about realigning with your values? What do you do once you realize that you need to make the shift? I often hear people talk about quiet quitting, but what I believe many people are actually experiencing is a quiet awakening. Quiet quitting is often described as doing less at work, but in reality it usually means people are simply setting boundaries—doing what they're paid for without giving endless emotional labor or overextending themselves. For many people, this shift comes from a deeper realization: they've been giving too much of themselves to jobs, organizations, or relationships that aren't truly valuing them. Sometimes this awareness comes from burnout and exhaustion, but other times it comes from clarity about what no longer aligns with their values. Rather than making sudden changes, I encourage people to listen to these signals, strengthen their boundaries, and take gradual steps toward work and relationships that feel more meaningful and aligned. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Fear of Being Seen: Why High-Achieving Women Hide Their Power

    Why do so many high-achieving women feel safer shrinking than standing out? When did visibility become something your nervous system learned to fear? What might change for the better in your life if being truly seen felt like freedom instead of danger? In this episode, I explore why so many high-achieving women are afraid of being seen. On the outside, they look confident and capable — but internally, many downplay their achievements, hold back their opinions, and shrink in rooms they've outgrown. The fear of being seen doesn't mean you're shy or unready. It means your nervous system learned that visibility wasn't safe — that standing out could lead to criticism, rejection, or conflict. So hiding became protective. For many women, perfectionism plays a big role. Growing up rewarded for being "perfect," compliant, and high-performing can create the belief that anything less means something is wrong. But perfect isn't real — and chasing it keeps you small. Visibility isn't about ego. It's about being fully yourself. And when being seen feels safe, it becomes freedom. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Listening Deeply with Nicole Lohtse: Is it Fear or Growth?

    How do you know whether what's holding you back is fear, or an invitation to grow? What survival patterns are running your life without you realizing it? Who might you become if you could tell the difference between your patterns and your true self? In this episode, I sat down with Nicole Lohse to explore a question so many of us wrestle with: Is this fear holding me back, or is this an invitation to grow? One of the biggest themes we discussed is that getting to know ourselves is a slow process. We aren't born with self-awareness. It unfolds over time, through living, through relationships, and through paying attention. Nicole talks about how much of her work centers on helping people recognize their survival patterns — the ways we learned to stay safe, manage control, avoid pain, or keep ourselves distracted. These patterns often developed for very good reasons, but over time they can begin to limit us. Ultimately, this conversation is about listening deeply to ourselves. It's about asking: Is this fear, or is this growth? Is this my history driving the bus, or is this the genuine expression of who I am? And it's about having the grace and patience to let that understanding unfold over time. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Reinventing Your Career After 40: Starting Over Without Starting From Scratch

    How can you reinvent yourself without starting from zero? Is the work that you are currently doing in sync with your energy and your new goals? Why in our 40s, 50s, and 60s do we often look at our careers and ask, "Is this still aligned?"   In this podcast episode, I talk about career reinvention in midlife not as a crisis, but as a developmental shift. In our 40s, 50s, and 60s, many women begin to feel a deep misalignment between who they are becoming and the work they're doing. After decades of caregiving, providing, multitasking, and overfunctioning for others, something changes. Our values shift. Our energy shifts. And we start asking whether our careers still reflect who we are now. Midlife isn't about starting over from zero — it's about recalibration. One of the biggest myths holding women back is the belief that they're too old to begin again, that they'd have to start at the bottom, or that leaving would waste their experience. None of that is true. Nothing you've done is wasted. Your experience comes with you. Reinvention isn't about erasing the past — it's about repurposing it. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Meeting of the Minds about Fear with Chris McDonald

    What happens when something you once loved no longer fits your life? How often does fear keep you holding on instead of moving forward? Why does uniting your body and mind holistically help you to move through fear with more ease?  In this episode, I sit down with Chris McDonald to talk about fear, transition, and what it really means to keep moving forward when something you once loved no longer fits your life. Chris shares her decision to step away from producing new episodes of her long-running podcast, Yoga in the Therapy Room. We talk honestly about the mix of grief, relief, and fear that can come with closing a chapter—especially when that project once felt central to your identity.  We also explore how fear often shows up when something starts holding us back rather than helping us grow, and how trusting that something new exists on the other side of letting go can make transitions feel less overwhelming.  Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Cost of Staying the Same: What Women Realize at 45+

    What sits at the core of women's burnout, exhaustion, and emotional depletion? Are you stuck between the fear of changing and the fear of staying the same? What truly constitutes emotional labor - and how can women release themselves from suffering the cost?  In this episode, I talk about what sits at the core of women's burnout, exhaustion, and emotional depletion. I explore why so many women feel trapped between the fear of changing and the fear of staying the same, and what it truly costs to keep carrying everything. This is a conversation about emotional labor, why it becomes a woman's responsibility, and what many women begin to recognize more clearly around midlife. I explain emotional labor as the invisible, unspoken work of managing the emotional climate of relationships, homes, families, and workplaces. It shows up in remembering important dates, maintaining traditions, initiating hard conversations, noticing emotional shifts, de-escalating conflict, keeping things running smoothly, and anticipating the needs of others. While anyone can carry emotional labor, the issue is that it often falls disproportionately on one person and goes unpaid, unacknowledged, and simply expected. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Letting Yourself Change: Permission Slips for Midlife Women

    Do you know what you want to do, but you don't feel like you're allowed to do it? Have you been waiting for something or someone to give you permission? Well, here it is! Take that step, and for the first time in years, choose you. In this episode, I talk about something I see again and again with midlife women: it's not that we don't know what we want — it's that we don't feel allowed to want it. We're waiting for permission to rest, to change, to say no, or to choose ourselves. So I'm offering it to you directly: this is your permission. From a young age, many of us were taught to be agreeable, helpful, self-sacrificing, and responsible for everyone else's comfort. Over time, that conditioning creates a belief that our needs are negotiable. Even when we're exhausted or deeply unhappy, we wait for someone else to validate that it's "bad enough" to stop or shift direction. Midlife often cracks that pattern wide open — and while that can feel uncomfortable, it's also incredibly freeing. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Midlife Identity Breakup: Who You Were vs. Who You're Becoming

    Are you a woman in your 40s, 50s, or 60s? Have you ever experienced - or are you perhaps experiencing - a midlife identity breakup? What is the first step that you can take to journey through this transition and fully step into yourself? In this episode, I talk about the midlife identity breakup—a transition many women experience in midlife as they move from who they've been into who they're becoming. This isn't a crisis, but a natural shift that happens when old roles, expectations, and ways of being no longer fit. I explore why this often emerges in midlife, the signs that an identity shift is underway, and why the urge for authenticity can feel stronger than the need for approval. This process isn't about losing yourself—it's about releasing roles that were never sustainable and returning to who you truly are. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Midlife Identity Breakup: Who You Were vs. Who You're Becoming

    What happens when the roles and identities that once defined you no longer fit? How do you navigate the unsettling space between who you were and who you are becoming? What if midlife isn't a crisis at all, but an invitation to evolve into your truest self? In this podcast I talk about the midlife identity breakup—the moment you realize the roles and patterns that once defined you no longer fit who you're becoming. It's not a crisis but a transition, and like any breakup it can bring grief, confusion, clarity, and a powerful sense of renewal. I describe the signs of this shift: letting go of old versions of yourself, releasing roles you no longer want, questioning long-held beliefs, outgrowing relationships or habits, and feeling disconnected from things that once mattered. These discomforts aren't failures—they're signs of evolution. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    "Why Burnout Isn't a Time Problem — It's a Nervous System Problem"

    Why does burnout even happen? How can you heal from burnout in ways that actually work and drop the quick-fixes? What would your life look like if you started listening to your body's early warning signs instead of pushing past them? In this podcast I explain why burnout isn't a time-management issue—it's a nervous system issue. You can have a full calendar and feel energized when your system is regulated, or a quiet schedule and still feel depleted. Burnout happens when you're emotionally overextended for too long without recovery. I outline the sequence of burnout: your system shifts from flight, to fight, to freeze, and eventually into functional shutdown. This isn't weakness—it's your body trying to protect you after carrying too much emotional and physical weight. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    "The Somatic Side of Reinvention: Healing Before You Transform"

    What if your body isn't ready for the change your mind wants? Are you trying to force transformation when your nervous system resists? What could positively shift if your body felt safe enough to evolve? In this podcast I talk about what happens when your mind wants change, but your body isn't ready. I explore the somatic side of reinvention and why healing often needs to happen before transformation. I explain that a bottom-up approach—starting with the body, then moving to the mind—works because the body holds your lived experience. If your body doesn't feel safe, your mind can't fully accept new thoughts or identities. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    "When Your Body Says 'I'm Not Fine': Nervous System Clues You Can't Ignore"

    What if fear isn't a stop sign, but the doorway you have been avoiding? How would your life change if you treated fear as information instead of a threat? What possibilities might open if discomfort became your compass rather than your warning light? In this podcast I talk about what happens when I finally listen to my body. I explore how often we mislabel dysregulation as "just tired" or "just stressed," and why that discomfort is actually important information from the nervous system. I describe the signs of a system on edge—exhaustion, overwhelm, irritability, fogginess, or feeling close to tears. These are signals, not inconveniences. I explain that the body reads any change, even positive change, as a threat because it prefers predictability. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Regulate to Liberate Series: Integrating Fear - From Threat to Teacher

    What if fear isn't a stop sign, but the doorway you have been avoiding? How would your life change if you treated fear as information instead of a threat? What possibilities might open if discomfort became your compass rather than your warning light? In this podcast I invite listeners to reframe fear—not as a stop sign but as a doorway I've been avoiding. I explain how treating fear as information instead of a threat helps discomfort become a compass pointing toward growth rather than a warning light pulling you back. I describe fear as a signal and a teacher: it often points to what we don't know or to places we've been protecting ourselves from.  Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Regulate to Liberate Series: Fear in the Body - Somatic Regulation

    What if your body could tell you you're afraid long before your mind catches up? How often do you mistake fear signals for something "wrong" instead of something informative? What might change if you learned to interpret fearful sensations as guidance rather than danger? In this podcast, I explore how fear lives in the body and how learning to read those sensations can shift my entire response. I break down the somatic signs of fear, share simple grounding tools like the 5-4-3-2-1 technique, and offer a case of performance fear to show how reconnecting with the senses can calm the nervous system. I end by highlighting why listening to my body — through movement, breath, or small physical releases — helps fear move through instead of getting stuck. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Regulate to Liberate Series: Fear of Success

    What if the thing you fear most isn't failure, but finally getting what you want? Why can success feel just as overwhelming as falling short? What happens when your mind dreams big, but your body pulls the brakes? In this podcast I explore what it really means to fear success — not failure, but the moment when everything you've been working toward starts becoming real. I talk about how overwhelming it can feel when your mind dreams big but your body slams on the brakes, and how that disconnect can create chaos, self-sabotage, and a sense of being "stuck." I share a story about a client whose life seemed to fall apart every time he took a step toward his dream career — broken phone, dead computer, lost contacts — not random bad luck, but fear showing up as disorder to keep him safely small.  Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Regulate to Liberate Series: Fear of Uncertainty

    How does one really "trust the process" amid uncertainty? Why does building up your resilience matter when it comes to looking for solutions? Who is in the driver's seat of your life, and if it's not your conscientious adult self, how can you get back into it? In this episode, I explore what it really means to trust the process when life feels uncertain. I talk about redefining uncertainty as possibility, building resilience in the face of discomfort, and asking the essential question: Who's driving the bus? I challenge you to think of the unknown as a blank space where anything can happen. Even though our brains are wired to cling to what we already know, that instinct can hold us back from new opportunities and growth. I break down the idea of "trusting the process"—not as the absence of fear, but as the ability to keep moving even when discomfort shows up. We don't know the full solution yet, only the problem in front of us and the wide range of possibilities ahead. Resilience is what helps us stay steady while we search for the answer. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Regulate to Liberate Series: Fear of Rejection and Belonging

    Has a rejection ever stopped you from pushing forward in pursuit of your goals? Are you hiding in your hopes and dreams because you have been told "no" in the past? Is it possible for you to see rejection as a form of redirection to continue striving forward, toward your best self?  In this podcast episode of the Regulate to Liberate series, I talk about how rejection can be an opportunity for growth rather than something to fear. I start by discussing Maslow's hierarchy of needs, explaining that we must meet basic needs before moving toward self-actualization. I then share how I learned to view rejection as redirection, showing me that something better is often ahead. I encourage listeners to reflect on their own fear of rejection and ask themselves, "Where am I hiding because I fear 'no'?" By doing this, we can overcome fear and step into our authentic selves. Rejection doesn't have to stop you—it's often guiding you toward where you truly belong. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Regulate to Liberate Series: Fear of Failure

    How can we turn our setbacks into stepping stones? What if fear wasn't a stop sign, but simply information inviting you to grow? How much progress could you make if "not perfect yet" didn't mean "not capable"? In this podcast episode, I explore the fear of failure — how to find its source, ease it, and reframe it as information rather than a stop sign. I share how I helped a client who feared a promotion realize that their fear wasn't about inability, but unfamiliarity. Through mindful breathing, grounding, and thought-pattern awareness, they learned that growth comes from learning something new, not from perfection. I also discuss how procrastination and perfectionism often feed each other, keeping us stuck in fear. Perfection doesn't exist — what matters is progress and iteration. Every attempt gives us feedback, not failure. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Regulate to Liberate Series: Flood or Shutdown

    What happens when life's stressors push us beyond what we can handle? How do we recognize when our nervous system has moved outside its window of tolerance? What can we do to come back into balance when we're flooded or shut down? In this podcast, I explore what happens when life's stressors push us beyond what we can handle — when our nervous system moves outside its window of tolerance. I talk about how we can recognize when we're flooded or shut down, and what it takes to come back into balance. With tools like breathwork, mindfulness, and intentional action, we can learn to stay present and grounded, even when things don't go our way. The goal isn't to avoid stress but to expand our ability to handle it — to know that life happens, and we're still okay. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Regulate to Liberate Series: Why We Freeze

    What is your most common fear reaction: fight, flight, freeze, or fawn? What triggers you to go into these responses? How can you be more mindful and approach these instinctive responses with compassion and curiosity to look under the fear at what's really going on? In this podcast, I explore why we freeze in moments of fear or stress and how to move through that response with more compassion. Often, during a freeze, our minds jump to worst-case scenarios, tying us to future outcomes and leaving us feeling stuck. To help shift out of freeze, I share a simple breathwork practice—slow inhales through the nose, exhales through the mouth—followed by a body scan to release tension and reconnect with safety. Our breath is a powerful tool to regulate the nervous system. I also highlight the importance of naming what's happening—what I call "name it to tame it." Whether through journaling or reflection, identifying the source of our freeze creates clarity and space from overwhelm. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    You've Changed and Your Client stayed the Same; Now What?

    What happens when clients decide to switch therapists when you decide to change your life? What do you need to continue to change and grow as a person without holding yourself back? How can you and your clients navigate these shifts in therapy when someone's life changes in a new way? In this podcast episode, I talk about what happens when we change as therapists—and our clients notice. As I evolved personally, I realized I was also changing professionally, and that shift affected my relationships with clients. Sometimes they feel it before they can name it, and that can mean they decide to move on—and that's okay. There's a parallel process between therapist and client; both of us grow, and that growth naturally influences the work. When either of us outgrows the clinical container we've built, it's not a failure—it's simply time for change. Growth means movement, and that's part of being human. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Therapist Behind the Change Series: Faith, Intuition, and the Unknown

    Do you practice using your intuition and faith in everyday life? How can bringing these two into the therapy room support you and your client better? What do you need to trust your inner self to make decisions from your most honest inner self? In this podcast, I talk about how faith and intuition guide both my life and my work as a therapist. Intuition is that quiet inner knowing—something you can't always see but deeply feel. Faith, for me, is the trust that I don't need to control every outcome to move forward. When I bring faith and intuition into therapy, I listen beyond words—to energy, silence, and my own felt sense. Learning to trust these has helped me make decisions from my most honest inner self and support clients more deeply. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Therapist Behind the Change Series: The Cost of Not Changing

    What's the real cost of staying the same versus choosing change? What happens when you stay in a job that drains you? How can leaving be the first step toward saying "yes" to growth?  In this podcast, I talk about the real cost of staying the same. I realized I was spending so much energy processing how unhappy I was at work while my growth had stalled. Leaving wasn't easy, but it was necessary—I had to start saying "no" to what drained me so I could say "yes" to what mattered. As I slowly built my private practice, I kept asking myself: What's the cost of staying the same? Change is uncomfortable, but so is stagnation—you have to choose which discomfort leads to growth. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Therapist Behind the Change Series: What I Used to Believe—And What I Know Now

    Is there anything you believed about therapy when you started that you think differently about now? Why should you be careful not to overprepare for sessions and rather just focus on your client? How can showing humanness, not just neutrality, support client healing? In this episode of Therapist Behind the Change, I reflect on how my beliefs about therapy have evolved. I used to think healing had a clear timeline, but now I know it's not linear—it ebbs and flows as clients navigate their own unique journeys. I also used to overprepare for sessions, but I learned that the best sessions happen when I let the client lead and meet them where they are. I once believed I had to be completely neutral, but now I see that showing my humanness—while maintaining boundaries—can be incredibly healing. Clients don't need perfection; they need connection, and by sharing authentic moments, I can help them feel validated and not alone in their struggles. Ultimately, therapy is about presence, empathy, and authentic connection, not just techniques or plans. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Therapist Behind the Change Series: Motherhood, Identity, and the Midlife Shift

    What does it mean to face the "reckoning" of midlife? Why is midlife a new opportunity for identity and not a crisis of identity? How can personal shifts in parenting and purpose transform your clinical presence? Motherhood hit me like a wave—disorienting, painful at times, but also deeply beautiful. I was in love with my baby, yet I still loved the other parts of my life, and suddenly I had to make space for something that needed me so fully. Now, in midlife, with my kids grown and more independent, I feel a new kind of space opening up. It's not a crisis, but a reckoning—a chance to redefine who I am and what I want this next chapter to look like. These shifts in motherhood and midlife haven't just changed me personally; they've transformed my clinical presence, making me more patient, more open, and more connected to the identity journeys my clients are navigating too. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Therapist Behind the Change Series: Healing While Helping

    Can therapists truly help others while still healing themselves? Is there really such a thing as a "finished therapist"? How can letting go of perfection and aiming for balance transform your personal and professional life? As a therapist, I've come to realize that healing and helping aren't separate paths—they often walk hand in hand. There's this common myth of the "finished therapist," like we're supposed to have everything figured out before we can truly help others. But life doesn't pause just because we're in the role of healer. I've navigated breakups, loss, health issues—all while sitting across from clients who, incredibly, were going through similar things. It felt like the universe was using those moments to say, "You'll figure this out by showing up and holding space for others." And in doing that, I learned so much about myself. There's also a huge pressure in our field to be perfect—calm, steady, always together—and that can lead to a lot of self-shame when we're not. But the truth is, we're human first. I've had to let go of perfection and embrace balance. That means staying connected to the basics: sleep, nourishing food, nature, friendship, creative outlets, and my own support systems. I've even had to check in with my supervisor and say, "I think I've hit a wall—I'm not growing." That kind of vulnerability is powerful. Growth doesn't come from having it all together; it comes from being honest, self-aware, and committed to evolving, even while we're holding the lantern for others. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Therapist Behind the Change Series: When the Therapist Hit a Wall

    What happens when a therapist hits a wall? Have you ever personally gone through burnout? How do you get yourself out of it?  In this episode, I open up about something that many therapists experience but don't often talk about—burnout. I hit a point in my career where I felt like I'd hit a wall. I was exhausted in a way that rest couldn't fix, and I started to notice that even getting up for work felt overwhelming. Sitting with clients—something that once brought me purpose—began to feel heavy and joyless. I didn't recognize myself, and I started wondering: Do I still love this work? Who am I if I don't? It wasn't just stress or being overworked—it was something deeper. I realized I was burned out, and that was a scary realization. I had spent years becoming a therapist, building a practice, and here I was feeling numb and disconnected from the very thing I once felt so called to do. What helped me shift was reaching out for help. I opened up to a colleague and finally said out loud, "I don't know if I can keep doing this." That moment of honesty led me to get support for myself, including seeing a therapist. I started the work of rebuilding—not just my routine, but my connection to myself and to my work. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Therapist Behind the Change Series: Why I Chose to Become a Therapist

    What early signs revealed to you your calling to become a therapist? How does personal growth shape the journey of becoming a mental health practitioner? Why is it important to focus intentionally on the life you want to create? Even as a child, I noticed when someone else was upset or hurting, and I realized it mattered to be present with people during their grief or sadness. I had a strong "empathy radar" and, even without knowing the terminology, I understood that being sensitive to others' emotions could be a strength. A turning point for me came in college when I learned about trauma and how emotional wounds can live in the body—it gave language to what I had always sensed in people around me. Training to become a therapist taught me theory and technique, but nothing truly prepares you for the emotional excavation that comes with this work. I had to confront my own perfectionism, anxiety, and self-doubt, and going through therapy myself helped me learn to hold space for myself so I could hold it for others. I've realized the best therapists aren't those who have it all figured out—they're the ones willing to do the work alongside their clients. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Freedom Through Frameworks

    How can simple communication practices like "huddles" transform patient care and team efficiency? Why is collaboration at every level of a team essential for long-term success? What benefits come from questioning and redesigning the very systems your business relies on? I've seen how small changes create big results. When my team started using quick huddles, we cut patient visits from two hours to 25 minutes while improving client and staff experience. Collaboration was key—when people feel valued and empowered, they share ideas and strengthen the culture. And by questioning and redesigning our systems, we increased revenue, boosted staff satisfaction, and created happier clients. For me, freedom comes from building clear frameworks that actually work. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Moving Through the Muck (Stuckness)

    What does it really feel like to be "stuck" in life or business? How can uncovering the root cause of a problem help you break free from it? What small but powerful actions can shift you out of the muck and into momentum? Getting unstuck meant confronting uncomfortable truths, asking direct questions, and making tough changes. In this episode, I talk about the power of small but scary actions to shift momentum, the value of curiosity, and why honoring yourself in difficult moments is key to moving forward. I also learned that feeling stuck doesn't mean you're weak—it often means you're avoiding something important.  Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Who Are You Now? (Post-Parenting Purpose)

    Your kids are all grown up - who are you now? What happens when you are out of caregiving mode? When there is no one else around for you to take care of, can you turn inward?  In this episode, I'm diving into a question that so many of us face once our children are grown and the caregiving chapter of life begins to quiet: Who am I now? For years, my identity—like so many others—was deeply connected to what I did and who I cared for. In Western culture, especially in the U.S., we often define ourselves by our roles: I'm a teacher, I'm a nurse, I'm a parent. But when those roles change or come to an end, we're left asking: Without those titles, who am I really? I've seen how powerful—and disorienting—it can be to transition out of full-time parenting. There's a sudden shift. The routine changes, and what's left is often a quiet space where new questions emerge. This isn't a loss—it's an opening. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Healing the Whole Self (Integrative Wellness)

    Do you ever feel out of sync with your body, emotions, or thoughts? I've been there. In this episode, I share my journey with integrative wellness—and how I came to understand just how connected everything really is. When I started paying attention to small things, like how much I moved or what I was putting in my body, I noticed unexpected shifts in other areas of my life. My energy changed. My mindset shifted. I felt freer. This episode is an invitation to start small. Whether it's drinking more water, sleeping better, or spending more time in nature—these tiny habits add up. If there's a part of your wellbeing you've been ignoring, maybe now is the time to look at it. Healing doesn't have to be overwhelming—it just has to begin. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Leading with Heart (and Backbone)

    Do you sometimes feel as if you are making decisions based on fear instead of the strength of your heart? How can you get out of leading your life from fear and step into your courage? What's the method to reconnect with your backbone and take life, struggles, and opportunities by the horns? Too often, we allow fear to lead us—fear of making mistakes, fear of being wrong, fear of not knowing enough. But real courage begins when we shift our focus from fear to the strength of our heart and backbone. I remind myself and my team that mistakes are okay. What truly matters is what we do afterward—how we own it, learn from it, and share those lessons so no one else has to fall into the same trap. That kind of transparency creates trust and connection. I also embrace the fact that no one knows everything. Every question, every challenge, every unexpected detour is a chance to see things differently and grow. When we invite curiosity instead of judgment, we move away from fear and toward clarity, care, and collaboration. And here's the truth: whether you realize it or not, you're already leading. As a parent, a teacher, a friend, a business owner—you're setting the tone in countless ways. So ask yourself, how am I already leading from my heart? Because you matter. Your presence matters. And the way you show up has the power to inspire others to do the same. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Self-worth: Breaking Up with "Not Enough"

    How can you recognize your worth in a world of perfectionism? Which practical tips can help you transform self-doubt and build self-worth instead? Have you tapped into your inner worlds of possibility? In this episode of The Fear of Change, I talk about self-worth and the belief that we're not enough. I share a moment from my trek in the Himalayas where I felt overwhelmed, lost, and convinced I didn't belong. But when my guide admitted the terrain was genuinely difficult, I realized I wasn't failing—I was just human. That shift helped me see how often we hold ourselves to impossible standards. I offer simple reframes and affirmations to challenge that inner critic and remind ourselves we are enough. When we believe that—even a little—it changes how we move through the world. So ask yourself: What would you do differently if you believed you were enough? Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Safe, Seen, and Accountable (Emotional Safety)

    What are the essential ingredients for cultivating trust, connection, and emotional safety in your relationships? How can you foster being and feeling mutually seen between you and your loved ones? Why is emotional safety the biggest key to building trust?  In this episode, I talk about emotional safety—what it means to feel truly seen, supported, and secure in our relationships. I share a personal story of being vulnerable on a mountain climb and realizing how powerful it is to know someone is there for you. Many people grow up without emotional safety, and that can make it hard to trust or connect deeply later in life. But trust, honesty, and especially consistency are key. These aren't just important in our personal lives—they matter professionally too. Showing up, being accountable, and communicating clearly builds trust with everyone around us. Emotional safety isn't just a feeling—it's something we can actively create. And when we do, it transforms our relationships and even rewires our brains. It's simple, but powerful: be honest, be consistent, and let people know they matter. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Finding Purpose in the Pivot (Life Transitions)

    Are you currently undergoing a life transition? How can you redefine your purpose when things are different? What do you need to hold on to and let go of to keep in alignment with your purpose? In this episode, I explored how we find purpose during transitions, like sending kids to college or stepping back from work. These changes can feel unsettling and even trigger fears of being irrelevant or making the wrong move. I shared how creating small rituals — solo walks, journaling, or mindful movement — can help us stay grounded and present through the uncertainty. I also reflected on my own experience shifting from full-time therapy to fewer days, and how that required courage to trust I was still enough. My hope is to help listeners reframe what feels like things falling apart as opportunities for growth. If you have your own pivot story, I'd love to hear from you. Let's keep facing change together. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    "Boundaries" is Not a Bad Word

    Have you been struggling to set boundaries in your life? Why is setting boundaries one of the great secrets to empowering yourself and your relationships? Have you ever found it difficult to set boundaries in your small practice with staff?  In this episode, I opened up about something that's been a big part of both my personal and professional growth: boundaries. For a long time, I didn't really understand how essential they were. I'd avoid conflict, say "yes" when I wanted to say "no," and slowly found myself shrinking in my own space—especially in my practice. One experience with a particularly difficult employee years ago really forced me to reckon with the cost of not holding my boundaries. Each time I gave in, I felt more anxious and less confident. Eventually, I started doing something different. I gave myself space. I'd say, "Let me get back to you," or, "I'm going to check with HR." That pause gave me time to clear my head and get honest with myself about what I actually wanted, instead of reacting out of guilt or fear. It wasn't easy. Coming from a background where boundaries weren't modeled, I was scared of getting it wrong. But once I started naming my non-negotiables and distinguishing them from my flexible boundaries, everything shifted. I felt more empowered, less reactive—and ultimately, more in control of my business and my relationships. So I want to leave you with a few questions I had to ask myself: What are your boundaries? Where are your non-negotiables? And have you given yourself the space to speak them clearly? Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Structure with Soul: Building Systems That Support People--Not Just Processes

    Can you prioritize the well-being of your clients and clinicians alike by structuring your practice with a sense of purpose and soul? Why are feedback loops the secret ingredient for a thriving therapeutic environment? What is an easy way to enhance your practice's support systems?  In this episode, I'm reflecting on something that often gets overlooked in leadership: how we build systems with intention and soul. From my early days working with paper files at Metropolitan Family Services to adopting electronic health records at Innovative Counseling Partners, I've learned that systems only work when they're designed to support the people inside them — not just track them. I share the story of a clinician in crisis — someone holding 100+ cases yet barely hitting service targets. For years, no one asked why. It wasn't until we stepped back and truly listened that we saw the disconnect: a lack of structure, training, and growth pathways. And sadly, she wasn't alone. This episode is about more than data or productivity. It's about emotional labor in leadership, the dangers of flying blind as an organization, and the courage it takes to realign our systems so they serve both staff and clients better. I also explore how feedback — even uncomfortable feedback — is a gift, and why our next evolution as leaders depends on how willing we are to sit with discomfort and grow from it. If you're running a practice, managing a team, or even just managing your own life systems — I hope this episode nudges you to ask: Do my systems have soul? Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Success Isn't a Ladder, It's a Landscape

    Is your definition of success overdue for a makeover? Which new metrics can you use to define what success looks and feels like to you? Can you imagine success not as vertical but rather as linear and continuous? In this episode, I reflect on how my understanding of success has shifted over time — and how it might be time for yours to shift too. For a long time, I thought of success as a ladder to climb. But now, I see it more as a landscape to explore. That change in mindset has helped me let go of old identities that no longer serve me — the parts of me that kept fighting battles I didn't need to fight anymore. I talk about the grief that can come with shedding those identities, and about the freedom that comes when we give ourselves permission to choose how we want to show up now. I also explore how many of us carry inherited definitions of success — ideas we absorbed from family, peers, or society — without realizing it. I ask: are your metrics for a good life truly your own? Or are they someone else's? Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    Let's Talk About Hard Talks

    How can courageous conversations transform your relationships? What is the greatest key to unlocking honest communication? Which strategies can help you navigate difficult conversations? Even after more than a decade of running my group practice, I still find difficult conversations… difficult. But I've learned they're unavoidable—and more importantly, necessary. In this episode, I wanted to reframe these moments not as "hard talks" but as "courageous conversations." These are the conversations that build relationships rather than break them—if we approach them grounded and intentional. Avoiding tough conversations might feel like protection, but often it's a barrier to growth. Silence creates emotional clutter, and walking on eggshells only deepens disconnection. I talked about how staying grounded—breathing through the discomfort—can help us say hard things while preserving connection. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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    The Empowered No

    How can you use boundaries to create safety for yourself and others? Why do clear boundaries lead to healthier connections? How can boundaries become your secret weapon against burnout and over-giving? In this episode, I talk about the power of boundaries—how saying "no" can actually lead to deeper connection, clearer communication, and essential self-care. I've learned that being clear is far kinder than being vague. Boundaries aren't about rejection; they're about keeping relationships clean and healthy. I also open up about my own missteps with over-giving—how crossing my own limits, even with good intentions, created confusion and emotional strain. That experience taught me that when I don't honor my boundaries, it affects both me and the people I'm trying to support. Thanks for listening, I'd love to connect with you over on Facebook. SHOW NOTES AND RESOURCES: Click here

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Fear of Change Podcast: Helping you to challenge your perspective, see fear as only one option, and that finding yourself is a lot of work, but totally worth it. Join therapist Jennifer Froemel in discovering a new you that handles change a little bit better.

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