The Long-Haul Leader

Mike Michalowicz is a serial entrepreneur and bestselling author known for books like Profit First, Clockwork, and The Pumpkin Plan. Now on his 11th book, he has built a reputation for turning complex concepts into practical, behaviour-changing systems that actually get results.In his latest book, The Money Habit: A Worry-Free Way to Financial Independence, Mike turns his attention to personal finance. Drawing from nearly 20 years of personal experimentation and real-world testing, he introduces a simple system designed to help individuals take back control of their money and reduce financial stress for good.In this episode, Chris and Mike get into why so many people, regardless of income level, still feel anxious about money. They unpack the crucial difference between financial freedom and financial independence and why chasing "more" is often the wrong goal entirely.Mike breaks down Optimal Foraging Theory and how it explains the "paycheck panic cycle" that keeps people stuck living month to month, no matter how much they earn. He also walks through the core framework of the Money Habit system, from carving up income across multiple accounts to tackling debt in the right order, dollar cost averaging, and why investing in yourself remains the highest-returning asset of all.This isn't about getting rich quick. It's about building a system that works, so your money stops controlling you and starts working for you.IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN:Why financial stress has little to do with how much you earnThe difference between financial freedom and financial independence and why it mattersHow Optimal Foraging Theory explains our modern money behaviourThe core framework behind the Money Habit system (Needs, Wants, Dreams, and more)How to reframe debt as a season, not a permanent identityEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:02:03 - Meet Mike Michalowicz06:34 - The Money Habit08:28 - Imposter Syndrome Shift11:43 - Financial Freedom vs Financial Independence15:56 - Optimal Foraging Theory & The Woolly Mammoth19:10 - The Method–Outcome Framework20:01 - The Paycheck Panic Cycle27:39 - Investing in Yourself: The Highest-Return Asset30:44 - Chris' Wake-Up Call and Why More Money Isn't the Answer35:35 - Seasonality, Recovery, and Reframing Your CircumstancesRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramThe Money HabitConnect with Mike on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

JJ Virgin is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, health expert, and one of the most trusted voices in nutrition, fitness, and long-term wellness. With over 40 years of experience coaching high performers, from CEOs to elite athletes, she specializes in helping leaders optimize their energy, resilience, and longevity.She’s been featured on Dr. Phil, The Today Show, and hundreds of major media outlets, and is known for making complex health science simple, practical, and doable for busy entrepreneurs.In this episode, Chris and JJ explore what entrepreneurs and leaders must do to stay strong, focused, and healthy over the long-haul. From protein and plants to resistance training, sleep, creatine, and VO₂ max, this conversation is packed with simple, actionable strategies to help you perform at your best, without burning out.Whether you're a midlife entrepreneur or simply want more strength and stamina, JJ’s insights will help you build a stronger, more resilient foundation for the long-term!IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why your health is the ultimate business advantageThe single biggest shift midlife leaders must make in their nutritionSleep as the cornerstone of recovery, energy and mental performanceThe rise of VO₂ max and why it's now a top indicator of lifespanEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:03:48 - JJ Virgin's Health and Wellness Philosophy11:41 - The Importance of Protein and Diet22:22 - Exercise and Movement for Long-Term Health27:57 - Creating a Movement-Friendly Workspace28:29 - Benefits of Post-Meal Walks30:06 - Incorporating Resistance Training31:44 - Overcoming Exercise Barriers34:48 - The Importance of Sleep for Recovery39:18 - The Role of Creatine in Health44:30 - Understanding VO2 Max48:25 - Personal Health GoalsRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramCheck Out JJ’s WebsiteConnect with JJ on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Mark Schaefer is a globally recognized keynote speaker, marketing consultant, and author of 11 bestselling books including KNOWN, Marketing Rebellion and Belonging to the Brand. Mark has spent decades helping professionals and organizations build authentic brands and meaningful connections.In this episode, Chris and Mark talk about what happens when success comes at the cost of your health, and how to find contentment on the other side.After a health scare revealed dangerously high blood pressure, Mark made the courageous decision to pause, re-evaluate, and realign his work and life. The conversation dives deep into the importance of slowing down, creating space for creativity, and redefining what it truly means to be successful in business and in life.This is an honest, refreshing discussion between two longtime friends about legacy, longevity, and letting go of the endless chase for more.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:How a health wake-up call changed the way Mark approaches work and successThe power of contentment and why it’s Mark’s new singular focusWhy slowing down can lead to more creativity and impact, not lessThe importance of hobbies, reflection, and time in nature for sustainable successHow to balance ambition with well-beingThe surprising connection between becoming a grandparent and redefining prioritiesEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:01:45 - Mark’s Journey and Recent Health Scare02:19 - The Importance of Contentment and Life Changes05:33 - Mark's New Lifestyle and Health Improvements11:14 - Balancing Work, Health, and Hobbies18:00 - Exploring Creativity and Avoiding Burnout19:17 - Scaling Back and Resetting Priorities21:36 - Embracing Contentment Over Hustle25:19 - Financial Insights and Business Growth29:15 - The Impact of Becoming a Grandfather30:42 - Advice for Young Entrepreneurs31:51 - Reflecting on Sacrifice and Long-Term SuccessRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramCheck Out Mark’s BooksMark’s WebsiteConnect with Mark on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Grant Baldwin is the founder and CEO of The Speaker Lab, a coaching and training company that has helped tens of thousands of speakers launch and grow successful speaking businesses.A dynamic entrepreneur, bestselling author, and seasoned keynote speaker, Grant has delivered nearly 1,000 presentations to over half a million people across 47 states and beyond. Under his leadership, The Speaker Lab has been named to the Inc. 5000 list four years running and has become a trusted industry leader for aspiring and experienced speakers alike. In this episode, Chris and Grant dive into what it really takes to build a business and a life that lasts. From staying the course and avoiding burnout to finding joy outside of work, Grant shares lessons from over a decade of leading a multi seven-figure company with intention and purpose.He opens up about the power of consistency, why hobbies matter more than hustle, and how building genuine relationships (not just networking) has shaped his journey.This conversation is a masterclass in long-term thinking, leadership, and creating a business that supports the life you actually want to live.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:The importance of long-term thinking and staying the courseHow to keep things interesting when you’ve been doing the “same thing” for yearsThe value of hobbies, rest, and sabbaticals (including why Grant got his pilot’s license!)Building authentic relationships that lead to opportunityWhy success means creating a business that supports your life, not the other way aroundEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:04:04 - The Journey of Building a Successful Business06:11 - Maintaining Passion and Avoiding Burnout15:44 - The Importance of Relationships and Personal Mastery19:11 - Building Relationships: From Macro to Micro19:25 - Networking Strategies: The Right and Wrong Approaches20:14 - The Evolution of Social Media Engagement21:14 - Intentional Relationship Building23:58 - Hobbies and Pastimes: Finding Balance30:08 - Living Like a Long-Haul LeaderRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramThe Speaker LabConnect with Grant on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Hal Elrod is the bestselling author of The Miracle Morning, a keynote speaker, and one of the most resilient humans you’ll ever meet. He has survived a tragic childhood loss, a near-fatal car accident, and an aggressive cancer diagnosis. Today he helps millions of people transform their lives simply by transforming how they start their day.In this episode, Hal gets incredibly real with Chris about what it means to stay the course. He shares the mindset that helped him beat cancer, how he rebuilt his energy and mental health after treatment, and the practices he still relies on every single day.You’ll also hear Hal open up about shifting from a constant-hustle extrovert to someone who now protects his solitude and peace, why he believes most entrepreneurs waste precious time wishing they were further ahead, and how to define success around what matters most: health, family, and freedom.This conversation is packed with courage, perspective, practical tools and a refreshing reminder that the long game is the only game worth playing.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why Hal believes mindset is the #1 factor in healing and successThe Miracle Morning and how it helped him beat cancerHow Hal leads, earns, and impacts others while protecting his energyOutgrowing “busy” and discovering the joy of solitudeWhat Hal now prioritizes most: health, family, and freedomEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:03:06 - Hal's Battle with Cancer: A Journey of Survival08:03 - The Power of Mindset in Overcoming Adversity15:03 - Life After Cancer: Challenges and Triumphs17:24 - Balancing Leadership and Health19:33 - Building a Lean Team20:10 - Personal Relaxation and Hobbies22:53 - Shifting from Extrovert to Introvert27:21 - Advice to My Younger Self29:48 - Prioritizing Health, Family, and FreedomRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramMiracle MorningConnect with Hal on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Ryan Deiss is the Founder and CEO of The Scalable Company (Scalable.co), DigitalMarketer.com, and a Founding Partner at Scalable Equity, LLC, a venture equity accelerator that builds and acquires B2B media, service, and software brands.In his 20+ year career as a serial entrepreneur, investor, and advisor, Ryan has started 17 companies, exited 4, and his portfolio of companies generated in excess of $200M in revenue last year, alone. As one of the most respected minds in digital marketing, Ryan continues to shape the way entrepreneurs grow smarter, scale sustainably, and lead better.In this episode, Chris and Ryan discuss the napkin moment that completely transformed Ryan's approach to business, and ultimately became the foundation for one of the most widely adopted marketing frameworks in the world.He also opens up about redefining success after multiple exits, and the lessons that helped him prioritize purpose and family without losing his entrepreneurial edge.This episode is a deep dive into what it really takes to build lasting success, without losing sight of what matters most.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:The story behind Ryan’s “million-dollar napkin” and how simplicity became his superpowerWhy most entrepreneurs overcomplicate their businesses and how to fix itThe two turning points that shaped Ryan’s journey through burnout and backHow to set calendar-based boundaries that protect your time and familyThe “Big 3” habit that keeps Ryan consistent and focused every weekEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:02:38 - Ryan's Early Business Journey05:45 - The Million Dollar Napkin10:55 - Balancing Business and Family Life15:50 - Setting Boundaries for Personal and Professional Success21:11 - Flexible Time Blocking Strategies22:13 - Personal Habits and Routines23:49 - Weekly and Quarterly Reviews30:34 - Avoiding Burnout34:24 - Celebrating Wins and Learning from MistakesRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramCheck Out Scalable CoConnect with Ryan on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Neen James is a leadership strategist, dynamic keynote speaker, and the author of Folding Time, Attention Pays, and Exceptional Experiences.With boundless energy, quick wit, and actionable insights, she serves as a confidante to C-suite leaders, helping them elevate experiences, sharpen focus, and strengthen communication and influence. Recently appointed to the board of the World Luxury Chamber of Commerce, Neen has been named one of the Top 30 Leadership Speakers by Global Gurus multiple years in a row for her work with prestigious brands including Viacom, Comcast, Virtuoso Travel, Four Seasons, and the FBI. In this episode, Chris and Neen dive into what it truly means to design and deliver exceptional experiences, for your clients, your team, and yourself.From productivity to attention, and now to luxury experiences, Neen’s work has evolved around one central theme: human connection. She reveals why luxury is a mindset, how leaders can think like concierges instead of bellhops, and why creating emotional connection in an AI-driven world is more important than ever.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why luxury is about experience, not expenseHow to think like a concierge, not a bellhop and why that mindset changes everythingThe Experience Elevation Model: a framework for enticing, exciting, and delighting your clientsWhy retention beats acquisition when it comes to sustainable growthHow energy, not time, is your most valuable asset as a long-haul leaderEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:02:27 - The Power of Thought Leadership and Connection07:04 - The Evolution of Productivity to Exceptional Experiences08:14 - Luxury as a Mindset: Human Connection in a Digital World13:03 - AI vs. Human Connection: The Concierge Approach15:14 - Experience Elevation Model: From Attention to Advocacy17:04 - Enticing Clients with Compelling Stories19:24 - Delighting Clients by Anticipating Needs20:15 - Igniting Client Advocacy22:28 - The Importance of Retaining Existing Clients28:05 - The Role of Energy in LeadershipRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramGet Your Copy of Exceptional ExperiencesConnect with Neen on InstagramNeen's WebsiteSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Phil M. Jones is a serial entrepreneur, founder of five multimillion-dollar companies, and a strategic advisor to leaders of some of the world’s biggest brands. He's the author of seven bestselling books, including the acclaimed Exactly series with over 3 million copies sold.His expertise has impacted more than 800 industries across 59 countries, and he now serves in residence at High Point University’s Access to Innovators Program, joining the ranks of global leaders like Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak and Netflix co-founder Marc Randolph, mentoring the next generation of innovators.In this episode, Chris sits down with Phil to explore the art of communication and thriving in a high-achieving lifestyle.Phil shares strategies for solving problems effectively, using precise language to drive business results, and balancing work-life demands without sacrificing health or performance. They also discuss the impact of AI on information sharing and how leaders can stay ahead in a fast-changing world.Packed with actionable insights and thought-provoking ideas, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone looking to grow, lead, and perform for the long-haul!IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:How the right words can transform your business outcomesBalancing high-achievement with personal well-beingLeadership lessons for sustainable success in a fast-changing worldPractical strategies for long-term thinking and personal growthEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:04:20 - The Impact of 'Exactly What to Say'08:54 - Balancing Work and Personal Life13:34 - The Importance of Momentum and Focus18:05 - Building a Loyal and Effective Team24:11 - The Future of Content Creation and AI26:13 - The Decline of Online Courses26:59 - AI's Personalized Insights28:36 - The Future of Thought Leadership32:06 - Health and Momentum38:41 - Travel Hacks and Jet Lag Solutions40:14 - Maximizing Productivity on the Road45:24 - Exploring New HobbiesRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramExactly What to SayPhil's WebsiteConnect with Phil on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Brian Clark is a writer, traveler, and entrepreneur. He’s best known as the founder of the pioneering content marketing resource Copyblogger, along with its popular StudioPress and Rainmaker business lines.Between 2007 and 2017, Brian’s companies generated over $70 million in sales, all without investment and advertising thanks to a unique content marketing approach.Following the acquisition of the Copyblogger collection of assets and a brief pause to travel the world with his family, Brian now helps Generation X navigate the new realities of midlife, retirement, and longevity.In this episode, Chris and Brian dive deep into building long-term, purpose-driven businesses without sacrificing your well-being. They explore how to lead with intention, master your mindset, and create a lasting legacy while navigating the challenges of midlife entrepreneurship.Brian shares his journey, offering insights into the hurdles and opportunities that come with evolving your career and business at midlife. Together, they discuss burnout, mental health, and strategies for sustainable leadership that allow you to stay in your zone of genius.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: The hidden challenges of selling a successful business (and how to rediscover your identity afterward)Practical strategies for preventing burnout and protecting your mental healthWhy adaptability and staying in your zone of genius matter more than everThe role of AI and technology in amplifying creativity (without losing the human connection)Why legacy isn’t about credit, it’s about the people you help along the wayEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:02:47 - From Copy Blogger to Longevity Economy03:59 - The Shift to Purpose-Driven Work06:18 - Overcoming Burnout and Finding Balance13:12 - Navigating Identity After Business Acquisitions15:50 - Mastering Every Moment as a Solopreneur19:01 - The Role of AI in Modern Entrepreneurship21:27 - The Importance of Human Connection in the Age of AI22:11 - Using AI for Ideation and Validation23:18 - Staying in Your Zone of Genius24:02 - The Evolution of Further and Midlife Insights27:15 - Economic Fears and Midlife Challenges30:10 - Mentorship and Influences34:14 - Legacy and Lasting ImpactRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramCheck Out Brian’s Newsletter, FurtherConnect with Brian on LinkedInSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Jenni Field is the founder of Redefining Communications, a global business communications consultancy, and the author of the bestselling book Nobody Believes You. She’s also the co-host of The Frequency Podcast and a trusted advisor to leaders and organizations navigating the complex world of communication, trust, and leadership.Jenni has worked with organizations of all sizes, from fast-growth startups to global corporations, helping leaders move their teams from chaos to calm.In this episode, Chris and Jenni explore why credibility is the cornerstone of leadership, the small but common mistakes that cause leaders to lose trust, and the eight traits every believable leader must develop. Jenni shares practical ways to show up with credibility every day, avoid oversharing, and lead with intentionality rather than hustle.Whether you’re leading a team of two or managing thousands, this conversation will give you the tools to build trust, strengthen your credibility, and lead with confidence for the long-haul.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Everyday ways leaders unknowingly lose trustThe wheel of credibility and the 8 traits of credible leadersThe tension between authenticity and inspirationWhy vulnerability has boundaries and when leaders overshareEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:01:58 - Jenni Field on credibility and leadership06:00 - How leaders unknowingly lose trust in small, everyday ways09:00 - The wheel of credibility: the eight traits every credible leader needs10:30 - Visionary practice, integrity, and why words must match actions11:30 - Social media’s role in shaping (and questioning) leader credibility15:00 - The importance of intentionality and avoiding the hustle hamster wheel17:00 - The tension between being authentic and being inspirational.21:00 - Jenni’s personal practices for being a long-haul leader29:00 - What being a long-haul leader means to Jenni todayRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramGet Your Copy of Jenni's Book, Nobody Believes YouConnect with Jenni on InstagramCheck Out Jenni's WebsiteRedefining CommunicationsSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Nicole Goode is a Certified Functional Medicine Consultant, Registered Nutritional Therapist (BANT CNHC) and BANT-Registered Nutritionist. She’s the creator of The MitoImmune® Method, and author of the bestselling book, Optimal YOU.Nicole has been instrumental in helping Chris recover from adrenal burnout and gut health challenges, and in this episode, they discuss how leaders and entrepreneurs can protect their energy, manage stress, and avoid burnout.Nicole explains what functional medicine really is (and isn’t), why adrenal health matters so much for high achievers, and the surprising connection between gut health and immunity. Together, they dive into the hidden costs of chronic stress and outline three simple, free, and highly effective practices that anyone can start today to boost resilience and performance without sacrificing their wellbeing.Whether you’re leading a business, a team, or simply your own busy life, this conversation will give you the tools to protect your health for the long-haul.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why adrenal health is critical for leaders and entrepreneursThe difference between stress that fuels you and stress that destroys youThe link between gut health, immunity, and burnoutHow low-level daily stressors quietly erode performanceThree simple and free practices to lower stress naturallyThe truth about supplements, what’s worth taking, and what isn’tEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:02:25 - Nicole's Background and Functional Medicine04:19 - Understanding Functional Medicine and Chronic Illness06:18 - Chris' Personal Health Journey with Nicole07:32 - The Importance of Adrenal Health09:59 - Stress and Its Impact on Health16:23 - Practical Tips for Reducing Stress20:29 - The Power of Nature for Well-being21:25 - Improving Sleep Hygiene22:35 - Managing Screen Time and Notifications27:43 - The Role of Diet in Adrenal Health28:50 - Practical Tips for a Healthier LifestyleRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramCheck Out Nicole’s Book, Optimal YOUConnect with Nicole on InstagramNicole’s WebsiteSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Jeff Walker is the author of the #1 New York Times bestselling book, Launch. He started his first online business in 1996 and pioneered the very idea of the online launch. His “Product Launch Formula” transformed the online marketing world from the day it was released in 2005. Now all these years later, the Product Launch Formula brand is the gold standard in the online entrepreneurial training market.In this episode, Chris and Jeff talk about how Jeff has continued to build a sustainable business in today’s noisy online world, why succession planning is top of mind, and how personal mastery practices like meditation, evening shutdown rituals, and gratitude tapping have made him a better leader, husband, and human being.Whether you’re thinking about scaling, planning your legacy, or simply trying to lead without burning out, this conversation is packed with wisdom from one of the best in the game.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:From live events to virtual summits and back again, Jeff shares how his business model evolved through COVID and beyondWhy the last five years have required more effort to achieve the same results and how to keep innovating in a noisy marketplaceHow Jeff is preparing the next generation (including his own children) to step into leadership and keep the business thriving long after he steps backThe importance of focus days, intentional morning routines, and a strict 5 PM shutdown ritual for better health and productivityMeditation, gratitude practices, and sleep as true superpowers for being a magnetic, long-term leaderEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:03:13 - Jeff Walker's Business Philosophy and Evolution05:01 - Navigating Changes and Challenges in Online Business07:08 - Succession Planning and Family Involvement13:02 - Daily Routines and Personal Mastery18:21 - Finding the Perfect Workout Routine21:54 - Balancing Business and Personal Life24:52 - The Impact of Meditation and Gratitude30:38 - The Journey of LeadershipRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramListen to This is Online BusinessConnect with Jeff on InstagramJeff’s WebsiteSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

In this very special solo episode, Chris celebrates the launch of his brand-new book, The Long-Haul Leader. After years of writing, refining, and living the lessons inside its pages, Chris shares the full introduction to the book with listeners.You’ll hear his deeply personal story of burnout, recovery, and reinvention. From 16-hour days as a call center CEO, to a powerful realization that hustle can’t be a lifestyle. Instead, true success is about setting the right pace, protecting your energy, and building something that lasts.If you’ve ever felt the pressure to hustle harder, this episode will give you both the permission and the tools to embrace a healthier, more sustainable path to leadership and entrepreneurship.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why hustle is powerful, but only in short, strategic burstsThe hidden costs of burnout and how to spot the warning signsThe shift from “hustler” to “long-haul leader” and what it really takesThe 10 core practices every long-haul leader embodiesHow to align your business, relationships, and health for long-term successEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:01:00 - Celebrating the Launch of Chris’ Book02:07 - The Journey to Becoming a Long-Haul Leader05:14 - The Turning Point: Embracing a New Approach08:27 - The Realization: Hustle is Not Sustainable14:28 - The Path to Recovery and Sustainable Success21:29 - Introducing Long-Haul Leadership PrinciplesRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Sally Hogshead is a branding expert, Wall Street Journal and New York Times bestselling author, and creator of the Fascinate Test. She’s been named #1 Global Brand Guru and is one of the only 189 professional living speakers to be inducted into the Speaker Hall of Fame.In this episode, Chris and Sally discuss why being different is better than being better, how to identify your unique advantage, and why long-term success comes from leaning into what makes you truly fascinating.They also dive into the power of relationships, navigating burnout, creating joy in both business and life, and why physical experiences and connections will always win over digital noise.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why different is better than betterSally’s simple formula for defining brand differentiationThe importance of focusing on what brings you joy bubbles in your work and lifeHow Sally and her family honored her mother’s life with intentionality, joy, and meaningHow physical experiences, events, and products are becoming more valuable in the AI eraThe role of hobbies, pastimes, and relationships in sustaining energy for the long gameEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:05:05 - Different is Better Than Better11:00 - From Copywriter to Branding Authority13:00 - Joy vs. Burnout16:55 - Honoring Relationships and Legacy21:23 - Staying Focused Amidst Distractions22:56 - The Joy and Toil of Writing a Book27:52 - The Power of Physical Experiences32:00 - Playing the Long Game36:00 - Hobbies, Recharging & RelationshipsRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Pre-Order The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramConnect with Sally on InstagramSally’s WebsiteSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Pat Flynn is NYT bestselling author of Lean Learning, keynote speaker, entrepreneur, podcaster and YouTuber with over 2 million subscribers across his two channels. Through his diverse portfolio of businesses, award-winning podcasts, newsletters, and thriving online communities, Pat reaches and inspires millions of people each month.In this episode, Chris and Pat talk all things sustainable leadership, finding balance, and how to learn smarter, not harder. They discuss what it truly means to grow, lead and live with purpose, particularly without sacrificing your health or wellbeing.Pat also opens up about his new book, Lean Learning and reveals the moments that shaped his long-haul leader journey.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why “enough” is a crucial question for every business owner and how to define it for yourselfThe hidden dangers of hustle culture and why burnout is a business risk, not a badge of honorHow Pat overcame public criticism and self-doubt and what helped him bounce back stronger.The “Lean Learning” method and why consuming less but applying more is the fastest path to resultsJust-in-time vs. just-in-case learning and why most of us get stuck in the wrong modeEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:03:19 - Reflecting on Podcasting and Personal Growth12:06 - The Impact of Haters and Trolls19:04 - A Life-Changing Listener Story21:25 - A Full Circle Moment23:41 - Mastering Every Moment27:13 - The Importance of White Space29:39 - Lean Learning: The Journey37:44 - The Power of Micro MasteryRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Pre-Order The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramPick Up a Copy of Pat's Book, Lean LearningSmart Passive IncomeSubscribe to the SPI PodcastConnect with Pat on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Michael Bungay Stanier is the founder of Box of Crayons, a training organization helping organizations with practical coaching skills rooted in curiosity. He's also the author of eight books that have sold more than 2 million copies, including the Coaching Habit and How to Work with Anyone. He's the winner of the Thinkers50 Coaching Award and is focused on helping transformational leaders seek a d find modern change mastery.In this episode, Chris and Michael discuss the key turning points that shaped Michael's career, from selling millions of copies of his books to defining his personal mission of infecting people with the possibility virus.They explore what it really means to create impact, how to know when to walk away from a project (even after heavy investment), and Michael's perspective on legacy.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:The importance of making the braver choice in everyday momentsRecognizing when your work has lost its sense of purposeBalancing love for your work with the reality of tasks you simply don’t enjoyWhy brevity and curation are the ultimate skills for authors, speakers, and creatorsEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:03:51 - Reflecting on Key Career Moments08:05 - The Coaching Habit and Its Impact14:33 - Launching the Change Signal Podcast17:08 - Realizing the Podcast's Purpose20:41 - Thoughts on Legacy24:08 - The Importance of Open-Mindedness27:09 - Dealing with Burnout and Finding Purpose32:39 - The Truth About Writing BooksRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Pre-Order The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramCheck Out Michael's BooksSubscribe to Michael's Podcast, Change SignalConnect with Michael on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Rory Vaden is the Co-Founder of Brand Builders Group where he teaches people to build and monetize a rock solid reputation™. He is also the New York Times Bestselling Author of Take the Stairs, and Wealthy and Well-Known.In this episode, Chris and Rory dive deep into what it really means to be purpose-driven in business, why personal brands fail, and how legacy and service are the only sustainable long-term strategies in a noisy, AI-saturated world.Whether you're a coach, author, executive, or entrepreneur, this is an essential listen for anyone looking to build a personal brand that actually lasts and truly matters.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:The biggest reason most personal brands burn out (and how to prevent it)Rory’s framework for identifying your true callingHow one question changed the trajectory of Lewis Howes’ careerThe false promise of “multiple income streams” early in businessWhy your humanity is your differentiation in an AI-driven worldEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:04:19 - Rory's Journey and Brand Builders Group06:44 - The Importance of Purpose Over Profit08:37 - Legacy and Future of Personal Branding17:36 - Challenges and Failures in Personal Branding20:28 - The Lie of Multiple Streams of Income21:13 - Focusing on One Revenue Stream25:37 - The Importance of Service-Centered Branding27:00 - Personal Branding Insights30:50 - Living Like a Long Haul LeaderRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Pre-Order The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramPick Up a Copy of Wealthy and Well-KnownConnect with Rory on InstagramSubscribe to Rory's Podcast, The Influential Personal Brand PodcastSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Dorie Clark is a Wall Street Journal bestselling author of The Long Game, Entrepreneurial You, Reinventing You and Stand Out. She's a keynote speaker and teaches executive education at Columbia Business School. She's also been named three times as one of the Top 50 business thinkers in the world by Thinkers50.In this episode, Chris and Dorie talk about what it really takes to build a sustainable business over the long-haul. They dive deep into what it means to lead for the long term, how to stay grounded in a noisy world, and why delayed gratification is the ultimate superpower for leaders.Dorie shares the behind-the-scenes story of how her books Entrepreneurial You and The Long Game were born out of her own questions about income, impact, and integrity.If you’ve ever struggled with distraction, burnout, or the pressure to move faster than you want to, this episode will give you the perspective shift you didn’t know you needed.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why impact doesn’t always equal income (and what to do about it)How to sell with integrity without feeling like a used car salesmanThe truth about thought leadership and how long it really takes to buildWhy leaders are more in control of their time than they thinkWhat George Michael can teach us about finding your callingEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:02:11 - Dorie Clark on Long-Term Success04:23 - Building a Sustainable Business07:46 The Importance of Strategic Patience11:01 - Challenges of Modern Leadership20:28 - Balancing Work and Personal Life23:02 - Balancing Priorities in Relationships27:30 - Hobbies and Musical Theater31:51 - Personal Projects and Simplifying LifeRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Pre-Order The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramConnect with Dorie on InstagramCheck Out Dorie's Book, The Long GameSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Ryan Levesque is a 7-time Inc. 5000 CEO & Founder, and 2-time #1 National Best-selling Author. He's generated over $100M in revenue and has successfully sold two of his companies.His work has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, Harvard Business Review, Forbes, Entrepreneur, and NBC News. Today he serves as a Strategic Advisor to multiple businesses, is working on his next book, and writes a weekly email newsletter “The Digital Contrarian” offering Unconventional Business Wisdom to over 100,000+ subscribers.In this episode, Chris and Ryan explore the seismic shifts shaping the world today, and what they mean for long-haul leaders and creators.From economic upheaval to environmental pressure to existential questions raised by AI, Ryan breaks down the "three colliding forces" reshaping life and business as we know it. He also shares why he chose to relocate his family to a 100+ acre farm in Vermont, and how that decision represents more than just a lifestyle choice.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:The three massive forces (economic, environmental, and existential) colliding right nowHow Ryan is preparing his family for an uncertain futureWhy a return to nature, simplicity, and “what’s real” is both a personal and business strategyHow Ryan blends hands-in-the-dirt farming with high-level digital entrepreneurshipWhy doing the unscalable thing may be the smartest move you can make todayEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:04:39 - The Changing World Order06:01 - Economic Forces and Big Debt Cycles10:33 - Environmental Forces and Climate Change14:20 - Navigating the Future: Strategies and Concerns15:53 - Balancing Optimism and Fear in the Age of AI20:33 - Entrepreneurs and AI: Embracing Opportunities24:56 - Transitioning to a Rural Lifestyle30:35 - Balancing Modern Skills with Traditional Practices37:00 - The Value of Unscalable EffortsRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Pre-Order The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramSubscribe to Ryan's NewsletterConnect with Ryan on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Jenny Wood is a New York Times bestselling author of Wild Courage. She's a speaker, former Google executive, and former Harvard Business School researcher who knows that real success isn’t about following the rules or waiting your turn.Her practical, no-nonsense approach empowers ambitious people to break the mold, be better leaders, build influence, and reach their full potential.In this episode, Chris and Jenny dive deep into the realities of building a meaningful business that supports your life, not the other way around.Jenny shares how her relationship with money and success has shifted since leaving the corporate world, why she’s scaling back on keynote speaking, and the powerful mindset shifts that helped her find peace and profitability in her next chapter.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why success without sustainability isn’t real successHow Jenny restructured her business model after leaving GoogleA fresh perspective on money, freedom, and what’s “enough”How to spot the invisible fears that sabotage progress (failure, uncertainty, judgment)How to reclaim traits like selfish, shameless, and manipulative for goodThe one belief she had to unlearn from corporate life to truly thriveEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:04:10 - From Google Exec to Entrepreneurship08:02 - Rethinking Financial Goals and Business Strategy15:06 - Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and Embracing Shamelessness19:52 - Struggles of Balancing Work and Family22:48 - Prioritizing Mental and Physical Health24:12 - Transitioning from Corporate to Entrepreneurial Life27:21 - Effective Coaching and Building Demand30:31 - Launching Group Coaching Programs35:19 - The Power of Influence and RelationshipsRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Pre-Order The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramPick Up a Copy of Wild CourageConnect with Jenny on LinkedInSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Amy Porterfield is an online marketing expert dedicated to helping entrepreneurs achieve success, flexibility, and financial freedom through online business.Over the past 16 years, she has generated more than $120 million, served 100,000+ students through her signature programs, and empowered hundreds of thousands more through her chart-topping podcast, The Amy Porterfield Show.She’s a New York Times bestselling author of Two Weeks Notice and has been featured in Forbes, Business Insider, Fast Company, MSNBC, Inc. 5000, and more.In this episode, Chris and Amy delve into the journey of building purpose-driven, sustainable businesses while managing personal well-being.From building million-dollar businesses to building homes on 70 acres, Amy opens up about her evolving priorities, embracing personal growth, and redefining success beyond just revenue and recognition. The conversation gets personal, touching on marriage, mental health, aging, boundaries, and the surprising power of saying no.If you're a purpose-driven entrepreneur navigating growth, change, or burnout, this episode is packed with wisdom you don’t want to miss.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:Why Amy and Chris are both trading hustle for harmonyInvesting in life coaches, marriage counseling, and physical health to fuel long-term successWhy more women are thriving in the online business space—and Amy’s role in that movementAmy’s honest take on identity shifts, perimenopause, and saying goodbye to people-pleasingEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:02:20 - Personal and Professional Updates03:39 - Chris's Personal Journey: Introspection and Change08:04 - Amy's New Ventures: Land, Family, and Slowing Down11:03 - Empowering Women in Business: Amy's Mission17:32 - Leadership and Personal Growth19:43 - Marriage Challenges and Counseling21:49 - The Importance of Supportive Partners22:27 - Prioritizing Health and Energy24:19 - Learning to Say No27:04 - Personal Time and Hobbies32:42 - Final Thoughts on Leadership and LegacyRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Pre-Order The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramSubscribe to Amy’s Podcast, The Amy Porterfield ShowConnect with Amy on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Michael Hyatt is the Founder and Chairman of Full Focus.He has scaled multiple companies over the years, including a $250M publishing company with 700+ employees and his own goal-achievement company. Under his leadership, Full Focus has been featured in the Inc. 5000 list of the fastest-growing companies in America and Inc.’s Best Work Places list.He is also the author of several New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and USA Today bestselling books, including Your Best Year Ever, Free to Focus, Win at Work and Succeed at Life, and Mind Your Mindset.In this episode, Chris and Michael have a powerful conversation around what it truly means to succeed over the long-haul.From turning around a failing division at a publishing company to redefining productivity after a life-altering heart attack, Michael shares the pivotal moments and personal practices that helped him align success with sustainability.They discuss Michael’s decision to write the foreword for Chris’ latest book, his journey from workaholism to work-life integration, and why legacy is more about impact than remembrance.Whether you’re leading a business or navigating a season of change, this is one of those must-listen episodes that will challenge your assumptions and inspire your next steps.IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:The personal vow Michael made as a teenager that sparked his early driveThe hard conversation with his wife that changed everythingHow Michael implemented daily and weekly boundaries with accountability!Why success without succession isn’t true successHow a heart attack led to Michael’s greatest season of clarity and peaceEPISODE TIMESTAMPS:04:19 - The Catalyst for Change09:46 - Work-Life Balance and Boundaries17:03 - Focus and Productivity19:42 - Reflecting on First Meetings and Early Days20:19 - Envisioning the Future: From Blogging to Coaching22:15 - A Life-Changing Health Scare26:13 - Recovery and New Perspectives28:51 - Work-Life Balance and Productivity Insights32:44 - Legacy and Succession Planning35:38 - Finding Happiness at the Lake HouseRESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Pre-Order The Long-Haul LeaderConnect with Chris on InstagramSubscribe to Michael’s Podcast, The Double WinConnect with Michael on InstagramLearn More About Full FocusRest: Why You Get More Done When You Work Less by Alex PangSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Welcome to The Long-Haul Leader podcast, the show for purpose-driven entrepreneurs and industry leaders who are committed to building businesses that last. Hosted by serial entrepreneur, bestselling author and keynote speaker, Chris Ducker, this brand new podcast dives deep into the truth about sustainable success, and what it really takes to lead with purpose, peace, and profit for the long-haul.In this trailer episode, Chris shares the story behind the podcast and the mission that drives it. After experiencing major burnout in 2021, Chris took a step back, restructured his businesses, and redefined success on his own terms.This podcast is born from that journey.If you’re tired of the hustle culture and quick-fix business advice and you want to lead with clarity, resilience and intention, then this is the podcast for you.Each week, you’ll hear honest conversations with industry leaders, authors and entrepreneurs who are building legacies, not just revenue spikes.Expect practical strategies, meaningful insights and real talk about how to lead and live well, without burning out in the process!RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:⁠Pre-Order The Long-Haul Leader bookConnect with Chris on InstagramSUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.