The State Of Belief

Have you noticed how Pope Leo's calm, fearless stance is rattling those in power? He’s not just speaking to Catholics; he's challenging the very idea that religion should be silent in times of crisis, whether the topic is war or the treatment of immigrants. This week, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush welcomes two leading American Catholic voices: religion professor Dr. Anthea Butler and best-selling author Father Jim Martin, SJ. They've got deep insights on the ways race, religion, and political priorities inform the furious responses from the White House and other powerful figures—and efforts to deny the moral authority of the head of one of the world's largest religions. Dr. Anthea Butler is Geraldine R. Segal Professor of Social Thought and Chair of the Department of Religious Studies at the University of Pennsylvania. She's the author of the book White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America. Rev. Jim Martin is editor-at-large at the Jesuit America Magazine, consultor to the Vatican, and author of many books, including his latest—a memoir titled Work in Progress: Confessions of a Busboy, Dishwasher, Caddy, Usher, Factory Worker, Bank Teller, Corporate Tool, and Priest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is the tide finally turning on the bigotry, fear-mongering and manufactured division in our society, including on college campuses? The success of a joyful gathering last week at traditionally Baptist Baylor University in Waco, Texas, suggests it might be. This week on The State of Belief, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush brings us with him to the Baylor campus, sharing his own words of welcome from the All Are Neighbors gathering, as well as powerful remarks from two student organizers, Rev. Susie Hayward, an unstoppable faith activist from Minnesota, Dr. Greg Garrett (whom TPUSA has included in its “professor watch list,”) and Human Rights Campaign President Kelly Robinson. We start things off with a conversation with Skye Perryman, President and CEO of Democracy Forward and a proud Baylor alum. In her words: “What these students showed is that there is a movement afoot, including in places like Waco, and maybe especially in places like Waco.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does democracy truly mean in 2026, and how can we ensure its survival? What hope can the recent election in Hungary offer for reversing the slide of democracy in the US and elsewhere? Host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush talks with Dr. Staffan I. Lindberg, founder of the Varieties of Democracy Institute, about V-Dem’s latest global report titled, Unraveling the Democratic Era? The report raises crucial questions about the future of democratic governance. It underscores the importance of understanding both the successes and failures of democratic systems, prompting a reevaluation of what democracy means in different contexts. Key takeaways include: - Democracy is Multifaceted: The state of democracy varies significantly across different nations, and understanding local contexts is crucial for promoting democratic values. - Engagement is Essential: Electoral participation and civic engagement are critical in challenging authoritarian regimes. - Concession Matters: Accepting electoral defeat is a vital component of maintaining democratic integrity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush welcomes Rebecca Solnit—prolific writer, best-selling author, activist, and public intellectual. With 25 books to her credit—so far—Rebecca's latest is titled The Beginning Comes After the End: Notes on a World of Change. In our conversation, she emphasizes collective hope, continuous community action, and a reevaluation of stories and faiths to inspire resistance and societal transformation. Rebecca raises up the potential for joy, creativity, and community in activism and advocacy. We also explore the intersectionality of environmental, racial, gender, and spiritual activism, urging us to see these issues as part of a shared fabric of interconnected change—especially when it comes to the true theological underpinnings of our democracy (spoiler alert—it's got a lot more to do ith MLK than DJT.) Sign up for Rebecca Solnit’s newsletter at https://www.meditationsinanemergency.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does it mean to be in a war that nobody openly declares? What are the legal and moral boundaries of military force? And what does true courage look like today — especially for ordinary citizens who feel overwhelmed or unsure of how to respond? With the global impact of the war in Iran growing daily, this week on The State of Belief host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush is joined by Retired Lt. Gen. Charles D. Luckey — former head of the US Army Reserve, former JAG officer, and veteran of three combat tours, including in Iraq. He’s also a seminary student at Wake Forest Theological Seminary — and all these identities intersect to provide unique insights and observations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How deeply has Christian Nationalism penetrated American society? It’s clearly a driving force in our government, but what about ordinary people across the country? With an enormous sample size, the Public Religion Research Institute’s 2025 American Values Atlas offers unique – and surprising - insights. PRRI President Dr. Robert P. Jones is on The State of Belief with the details. Only 13% of the population identifies as White evangelical Protestants, but their outsized influence on U.S. politics is both startling and strategic. Robby reveals how this minority shapes policies and what it means for the future of our democracy. Don't miss this compelling episode that challenges common assumptions and offers insights into reclaiming a pluralistic society, the real impact of faith on politics, and how you can be part of the change. Dr. Robert P. Jones is president of the Public Religion Research Institute. Robby’s Substack is at https://www.redeemingdemocracy.net/, and his next book, Backslide: Reclaiming a Faith and a Nation After the Christian Turn Against Democracy, is coming in September 2026. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’ve been looking at the war on Iran through the wrong lens, according to Iranian-American religion scholar Reza Aslan. It’s tempting to think that economic sanctions or military strikes will change Iran’s course overnight. But Reza’s words on The State of Belief challenge that assumption, revealing a deeper truth about history, identity, and the illusions we cling to. Reza shares a striking story from his book on Howard Baskerville, the American missionary who fought alongside Iranians in 1907, to the century-long struggle for freedom that defines Iran’s modern history. More than just a series of revolutions, these events are part of an enduring quest for dignity and sovereignty—a fight that has repeatedly been undermined by foreign interference and internal repression. Most surprising is how he dismantles the myth that religion uniquely dictates Iran’s actions. “Religion is just one part of identity,” he explains. “It’s used by regimes for control, but it doesn't inherently define the country’s trajectory.” That shift in perspective is illuminating. It reminds us that Iran’s complex history of democracy protests—dating back to 1905—has always been about Iranians asserting their right to shape their future. Yet, external powers have consistently interfered, from Britain in 1905 to the CIA-backed coup of 1953, and now, the current military escalation. Reza sounds a warning for those celebrating the fall of the Supreme Leader: external attacks are a most effective way to rally internal support, invoking the surge in support for George W. Bush in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 as one relatable example. He challenges us to let go of simplistic hopes that bombs or sanctions will transform Iran overnight. Real change, Reza suggests, comes from within—and it will take generations, because history is not so much context as it is fuel for ongoing resistance and conflict. MORE ABOUT REZA ASLAN: Reza Aslan is a scholar of religion, a best-selling author, a college professor, and a public intellectual who has a gift for making complex religious history accessible to broad audiences. Reza's books include Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth, and Beyond Fundamentalism: Confronting Religious Extremism in the Age of Globalism. He has hosted television programs exploring religion and culture, such as Believer with Reza Aslan. Born in Iran, living in Los Angeles, Reza brings a depth of understanding to the current situation that is important to explore. The nuance he brings is expressed in a moving New York Times essay titled, The Mistake That Iranians Make About America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Virility and victimhood – how do these seemingly opposite characteristics prop up strongman leaders throughout recent history? Expert and best-selling author Dr. Ruth Ben-Ghiat connects the dots in a conversation full of wisdom and, ultimately, hope that the current attempt at authoritarian rule in the United States is on the decline. The author of Strongmen: from Mussolini to Today, Ruth makes clear that war is often a cold-blooded tool of authoritarians – particularly if they see other means of consolidating power no longer work. Religious and spiritual language is also a near-universal tool in the strongman’s arsenal, making American Christian Nationalism just more of the same for anyone looking closely at the history of authoritarianism in the past century or so. Inevitability is a cornerstone of the image projected by strongman propaganda. As Ruth points out in her book, The authoritarian playbook has no chapter on failure. And so self-delusion is an important part of keeping an authoritarian takeover in motion: nobody can stop this. In fact, most people are enthusiastically supportive of anything we do (regardless of what the polls say – sound familiar?) So what hope is there for effective opposition? Ruth emphasizes that nonviolence is essential, and that collective action is required to break the hold most strongmen have over their followers and foes alike. With concrete historical examples and accessible explanations of what’s really happening today, she doesn’t shy away from making clear how high the stakes are – but also how real the possibility of shepherding our intact democracy through this crisis is.   More About Ruth Ben-Ghiat Dr. Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a historian and professor at New York University who specializes in fascism, authoritarianism, propaganda, and democracy protection. Her writing explores how strongman leaders use culture, media, and corruption to consolidate power, in books include Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present. Dr. Ben-Ghiat is a frequent public commentator on threats to democracy in the United States and globally, and shares her insights on her Substack, @lucid. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As exhausted as many of us are by the ever more sordid revelations in the Epstein scandal, author and journalist Rabbi Jay Michaelson says its importance is only growing. Joining host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush on this edition of The State of Belief, Jay argues that the way the scandal is being handled is nothing short of a moral referendum, “not just on Donald Trump and on the administration, but, really, on our society as a whole.” Jay also sounds the alarm about developments in anti-Jewish bigotry in recent months, including an explosion in antisemitism in connection with the Epstein files. He has harsh words for the way responsible voices have been too silent in the face of the conspiracy theories proliferating in the ongoing chaos of the Epstein case. In the midst of all this, a nationwide attack on LGBTQ+ rights, focusing especially on trans individuals, continues unabated. Among the latest initiatives: 47 right-wing secular and religious organizations, including some big names, are scheming ways to repeal marriage equality in this country. Jay has some thoughts on how the current Supreme Court justices are likely to approach any case involving this issue. A meditation teacher as well as a rabbi, Jay highlights the concept of despair as a trap. And the importance of staying present and engaged. He also talks about practices that can help sustain us in these challenging times. Paul also shares his words from the People's State of the Union, attended by a number of members of Congress and organized by MoveOn as an antidote to the theatrics that took place under the rotunda. More about Jay Michaelson Rabbi Dr. Jay Michelson is a visiting researcher at Harvard Law School and a field scholar at the Emory Center for Psychedelics and Spirituality. He is also an award-winning journalist whose work has appeared in The Daily Beast, Rolling Stone, and CNN. Jay worked as an LGBTQ activist for 10 years and is the author of 10 books, including God versus Gay: The Religious Case for Equality. These days, he writes a weekly Substack newsletter, Both/And With Jay Michelson, which is a must-read. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Father Jim Martin’s new memoir, Work in Progress: Confessions of a Bus Boy, Dishwasher, Caddy, Usher, Factory Worker, Bank Teller, Corporate Tool, and Priest, includes plenty of funny stories that are also deeply human, full of honesty and hope. Jim’s always a wonderful guest, and this week he joins host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush to walk us through some of the memorable moments in this book. The book opens with stories of summer jobs ranging from dishwasher to factory worker, all while weaving in the idea that God works even in the most mundane places. This is an invaluable reminder that we’re all on a spiritual journey, whether we realize it or not. And the path to faith isn’t a straight line. It’s messy, ongoing, and filled with grace. Honesty is what makes his memoir resonate. It invites us to reflect: where are we still "works in progress"? Father Jim also takes us through the tumultuous history of America—recalling moments like the Bicentennial, the moon landing, and the Nixon resignation—and connects it to our current time. We’re living in a moment that will surely be remembered as monumental, and Jim’s reflections on truth, history, and the ways we forget or erase it feel especially urgent. Lies and nostalgia can be dangerous when they hide the real stories, especially the stories of marginalized communities. What’s powerful is how Jim emphasizes that the gospel isn’t about nostalgia or idealized versions of the past; it’s about standing with those on the margins—migrants, refugees, LGBTQ+ folks, and others dehumanized and pushed aside. His stories about engaging with those communities—meeting Pope Francis, speaking at protests, standing with migrants—are inspiring. They’re a reminder that courage isn’t absence of fear but standing with others when it’s hard. Our lives, our nation, and our faith are all ongoing works. We’re never finished, and that’s the point. Father Jim Martin's reflection on his own moments of reckless youth, and how those stories led him closer to a calling, offers hope to anyone feeling like their journey is incomplete. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a time of mounting division and injustice, faith isn’t just a personal refuge—it’s a call to step up and speak out. This week, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush is joined by Bishop Dwayne Royster, Executive Director of Faith in Action. Talk about action—Bishop Dwayne and partners organized a massive, diverse, faith-inspired gathering in Washington, D.C. just days after a series of ICE-related deaths. 450 clergy mobilized in 72 hours, with multiple faith traditions coming together to oppose policies rooted in hate and fear—and almost 60 faith leaders arrested during the peaceful protest. As the bishop describes his own motivation, he subjected himself to arrest “for all my neighbors that don't deserve to be arrested, detained, or deported.” Others visited individual senators’ offices, making over 50 Hill visits to challenge funding for the extremist practices of ICE. It’s all a reminder that faith, when truly grounded, can be a revolutionary force. With the 250th anniversary of the country this year, Bishop Dwayne has a powerful vision for faith-inspired organizing for the occasion: “We all want to survive and live our best lives, and that requires us to come together, love our neighbors, and build a different story for America.” This underscores once again that our faith and beliefs are a resource of resilience, meant to be shared in action, not just in prayer. Another layer to this: it’s easy to feel overwhelmed by the scale of injustice, but each of us has a role. Whether we march, donate, pray, or hold space for others, our collective effort is what moves the needle. As Bishop Dwayne beautifully put it, “We all have different contributions—some in the streets, some behind the scenes, some in policy, some in prayer.” That’s a crucial truth—each person’s place in this movement is vital. We can find the testimony that grounds each of us, whether rooted in faith, philosophy, or our own personal convictions. When the moment calls, that’s what will carry us—the belief that your action, no matter how small, is part of a larger and essential whole. Also, Interfaith Alliance is taking the Trump administration to court. At the top of the show, attorney and Democracy Forward Executive Director Skye Perryman is back to explain this lawsuit, brought with a diverse group of partners, which focuses on the lack of representative pluralism in the makeup of the Religious Liberty Commission.   More About Bishop Dwayne Bishop Dwayne Royster is a faith leader and community organizer who serves as the executive director of Faith in Action, a national network dedicated to grassroots organizing for racial and economic justice. An ordained minister in the Progressive National Baptist Convention, he has spent decades working at the intersection of faith, public policy, and social change.   More About Faith in Action Faith in Action is a grassroots, nonpartisan, global, faith-based organizing network. It works with over a thousand congregations in more than 200 cities and towns through its 46 local and state federations.   More About the Lawsuit A multifaith coalition—including Interfaith Alliance, Muslims for Progressive Values, the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund, and Hindus for Human Rights—filed a federal lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York challenging the Trump administration’s Religious Liberty Commission. The plaintiffs argue the commission was created and structured in a way that violates federal law and undermines religious pluralism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does courage look like on the ground? For many faith leaders and everyday citizens, it involves showing up despite risks, discomfort, or opposition. Dr. Simran Jeet Singh, scholar and activist, describes courage rooted in love and fearlessness—values encoded in Sikh teachings like nirpo (fearlessness) and nirvad (without hatred). Simran reflects that true bravery is not about bravado or self-assertion but about steadfastly choosing love over hatred, even when faced with hate or violence. For example, during a clergy-led protest in Minnesota, ordinary people—clergy, community members, and even those with vulnerabilities—stood on the front lines, committed to protecting their neighbors and advocating for justice. Their actions exemplify that small, consistent acts of love and solidarity are the most powerful resistance to authoritarian tactics. This kind of courage asks us to stand with neighbors in difficult moments, practice humility and listen deeply, and act lovingly in the face of fear. The author of the best-selling book The Light We Give: How Sikh Wisdom Can Transform Your Life, Simran shares a story from Sikh tradition that struck me: a tiny lantern flickering in the darkness, not to fix everything but to let a little light shine. When enough of those lanterns light up, the darkness begins to lift. It’s a simple, powerful lesson: humility, love, and perseverance are acts of courage. Thursday, Feb. 5th was the annual National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, DC. This purportedly apolitical event has turned into a “partisan farce,” in the words of US Rep. Jim Clyburn. He spoke with us exclusively about his reasons for not attending the breakfast, and you’ll hear that along with the comments of other members of Congress who have also made the difficult decision to absent themselves: Rep. Jared Huffman, Rep. Lucy McBath, and then Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, who is also an ordained minister. Host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush was invited to share thoughts about the Christian Nationalist takeover of the National Prayer Breakfast on C-Span, and you’ll hear an excerpt of that on this week’s show, as well. More about Simran Jeet Singh Dr. Simran Jeet Singh is a scholar, educator, writer and activist, who focuses on religion and racism. Simran is a professor at the historic Union Theological Seminary and Senior Advisor for the Aspen Institute’s Religion & Society Program, a columnist for the Religion News Service, and a contributor for TIME Magazine. A Texas native, Simran is the author of several important books, including the national best-seller The Light We Give: How Sikh Wisdom Can Transform Your Life, and his Substack is titled, More of This, Please. Simran also hosts Wisdom & Practice, a new podcast by The Aspen Institute and PRX. He's working on a new television series titled Undivided. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s not a zero-sum game. This week on The State of Belief, interfaith organizer Maggie Siddiqi makes clear that coming together to counter antisemitism and Islamophobia is an essential part of the effort to protect American democracy. And doing that requires countering the narrative that somehow supporting one of these communities is harming the other. Maggie and host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush discuss some of the concrete ways these communities are, in fact, coming together, but also the very real risks that doing so brings, and the courage needed to persevere in the face of challenges that can include divisions and mistrust within diverse communities themselves. The result can be profoundly inspiring: Paul and Maggie talk in-depth about a major Capitol Hill briefing last December convened by the Jewish Council for Public Affairs (JCPA) and Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), in partnership with Interfaith Alliance and Union Theological Seminary. In addition to MPAC President Salam Al-Marayati and JCPA CEO Amy Spitalnick, Congresswoman Lateefah Simon, a Muslim, and Congressman Jamie Raskin, who is Jewish, addressed the gathering, moderated by Union Seminary Senior Executive Vice President Rev. Fred Davie. Paul and Maggie walk us through some of the highlights of the event, with excerpts from the various speakers and commentary on the significance of their words. For context, the briefing took place just days after the Hanukkah massacre of Jews in Sydney, Australia. But the focus on each other’s humanity, on the critical need for solidarity - especially during times of pain and fear – was unshakable. You can watch a recording of the entire briefing on the Interfaith Alliance YouTube page. Paul also shares his first-person experiences on the front lines with faith leaders from all over the country who gathered last week in Minneapolis to take a moral stand against the authoritarian atrocities being perpetrated by ICE in that community.   More about Maggie Siddiqi: Maggie Siddiqi is senior advisor at Interfaith Alliance. She is an expert in faith-based advocacy for social change, coalition-building across lines of difference, and public policy on religious freedom and standing up against hate. Maggie is also a non-resident fellow at MPAC. She has held important faith-focused positions at the office of the U.S. Secretary of Education and at the Center for American Progress. Maggie served as emcee for the briefing, in addition to playing a key role in organizing the event itself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this edition of The State of Belief, Democracy Forward President and CEO (and one of Time Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in the World 2025) Skye Perryman is back to talk about the first year of this presidency. Democracy Forward has filed hundreds of court challenges to the administration’s unconstitutional power grab and has been remarkably successful in winning most of them. She stresses that not even the conservative Supreme Court has always sided with this administration and that lower court judges rejecting executive branch policies are sometimes Trump appointees themselves. Skye and host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush talk about the essential role for people of all faith traditions and belief systems to hold fast to their values and teachings regardless of the forces buffeting society, and how important maintaining community connections is to get through the enormous challenges we are all facing right now. "Courage is the new currency," Skye often says, and stresses that there are many, many ways for people of good conscience to get involved in the work of defending and rebuilding our democracy - including, admittedly, options that do involve personal risk. Democracy Forward has just released its 2025 Impact Report, documenting how the power of people in courts and communities has, again and again, been victorious over the relentless power grab of this administration. Skye stresses that these successes have come, in great part, thanks to the intense preparation that was done ahead of the election, and that a proactive stance regarding what may come next continues to be essential. It’s available at https://democracyforward.org/work/research/2025-impact-report/   More About Skye Perryman: Skye L. Perryman is the President and CEO of Democracy Forward, a nonpartisan, national legal organization that promotes democracy and progress through litigation, regulatory engagement, communications, policy education, and research. Named as one of the 2025 100 Most Influential People in the World by TIME Magazine, Skye took the helm at Democracy Forward a few months after January 6, 2021, in the midst of rising extremism in communities and courts across the country. Skye has testified before the U.S. Congress and other expert bodies, and her legal work has been cited by the U.S. Supreme Court as well as state supreme courts. She is a frequent guest on network and cable television news programs, and her work and commentary are routinely covered in national newspapers, newsmagazines, and radio broadcasts. Skye Perryman is also an invaluable member of the Interfaith Alliance board.   More about Democracy Forward: Since January 2025, Democracy Forward has played a leading role in inspiring courage and in protecting the American people from harmful and unlawful federal executive action. The organization has filed hundreds of legal actions, launched hundreds of investigations, and, through its Democracy 2025 initiative, has organized the largest, most successful affirmative litigation effort against executive branch excesses in United States history. ‍ Please forward this episode of The State of Belief to one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation - and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The State of Belief, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush engages with four distinguished religious leaders and activists from Minnesota: Rev. Susie Hayward, Rev. Dr. Jia Starr Brown, Rev. Dr. Rebecca Voelkel, and Rev. Jim Bear Jacobs. The discussion centers on the current authoritarian crisis engulfing their community, driven by ICE raids and systemic injustice. Each leader shares their insights on the role of faith in activism, the importance of community, and their personal experiences confronting violence and authoritarianism, both globally and locally. They also explore the historical context of displacement and oppression and the need for solidarity in these turbulent times. The episode highlights the essential relationships strengthening and encouraging the work of our guests and every activist; the ways creative expression can support resilience; the gift that ritual can be in a time of chaos and crisis; and of course, the role faith can play for individuals and entire movements. The conversation offers valuable lessons on how to engage with and support marginalized communities even in this time of potential personal risk.   More About Our Guests: Rev. Susie Hayward is minister for justice and formation at Creekside United Church of Christ in Minneapolis. She’s a religion and peace scholar, activist, educator, and minister, as well as a longtime leader in faith-based organizing and justice work. Susie spent 14 years at the US Institute of Peace. Rev. Dr. Jia Starr Brown is an African American pastor, educator, author, and activist with more than three decades of experience advocating for underrepresented communities. With a heart for community and access for all, she stands - and activates - as a truth-teller at the intersection of faith, education, and justice. Rev. Dr. Rebecca Voelkel is Pastor for Justice Ministries and Director of the Center for Sustainable Justice at Lyndale United Church of Christ, and adjunct faculty at United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities. She’s the author of the book Carnal Knowledge of God: Embodied Love and the Movement for Justice. Rev. Jim Bear Jacobs is a Mohican pastor, author, and environmental justice leader who works with Minnesota Interfaith Power and Light. Formerly the Director of Racial Justice and Community Engagement for the Minnesota Council of Churches, Rev. Jim Bear weaves Indigenous spirituality, Christian faith, and climate justice into powerful teachings on healing, land, and community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the latest episode of The State of Belief, we dive into the vital theme of religious freedom as portrayed in the new film, The Testament of Ann Lee. Joining host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush for this enlightening discussion are Interfaith Alliance colleagues and film fans Guthrie Graves-Fitzsimmons and Alyssa Klein.Here are three key takeaways from the conversation that will resonate with many: The Intersection of Faith and Feminism: One of the most compelling aspects of The Testament of Ann Lee is its portrayal of a strong female figure in a religious leadership role. Alyssa notes that Ann Lee's story highlights how Christianity and feminism can coexist, challenging the often male-dominated narratives within religious traditions - but also illustrate the unfair gender-based challenges that she faced, and that continue to dominate much of organised religion today. The Ongoing Struggle for Religious Freedom: Guthrie emphasizes the historical context of Ann Lee's journey, illustrating how her quest for religious freedom in the 1700s mirrors the ongoing struggles many face today. The film serves as a reminder that the fight for true religious freedom is not just about the freedom to practice one's faith but also about ensuring that this freedom extends to all, regardless of their beliefs. This is particularly relevant as we approach Religious Freedom Day on January 16th, a time to reflect on what religious freedom truly means in a diverse society. Courage in the Face of Adversity: Both guests highlight the courage displayed by Ann Lee and her followers as they faced persecution for their beliefs. This theme of courage is not only relevant to the historical context of the Shakers but also resonates with contemporary movements advocating for social justice and equality.  Listen to this episode and reflect on how these themes of faith, feminism, and freedom can inspire us in our own lives and communities. Let's continue the conversation about what it means to truly embrace religious freedom for everyone. More About Our Guests:Guthrie Graves-Fitzsimmons is vice president of program and strategy at Interfaith Alliance. Author of the book Just Faith: Reclaiming Progressive Christianity, Guthrie holds an MDiv from Union Theological Seminary in New York City and is a fellow at the Center for American Progress Faith and Progressive Policy Initiative. Read Guthrie's column on The Testament of Ann Lee here.Alyssa Klein is a journalist and the creative force behind Interfaith Alliance's social media strategy. With a focus on art, advocacy, and social change, she's worked for prominent causes including the Women's March on Washington. Her writing has appeared in Vice, among other periodicals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy New Year! In this episode of The State of Belief, Religion News Service reporters Adelle Banks and Jack Jenkins join host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush to reflect on a remarkable year at the intersection of religion and public life. Adelle, a veteran journalist covering religion, race, and African-American faith communities, and Jack, a national reporter focused on religion and politics, share insights from their extensive reporting and collaboration at RNS. Our conversation highlights how religion has shaped key moments in recent American history. Adelle discusses her reporting on houses of worship in the Washington, D.C., area that rallied to support federal workers facing job losses, offering everything from legal help to counseling. Jack examines faith-based resistance to Trump-era immigration policies, including Episcopal Bishop Mariann Budde’s widely noted Inauguration Day sermon and lawsuits brought by religious groups advocating for immigrant rights. We also explore Black ministers pushing back against rollbacks of diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts, the growing influence of Christian Nationalism in government, and the 250th anniversary of the U.S. military chaplaincy. The episode touches on the election of Pope Leo, the first American pope, and what his leadership could mean for U.S. Catholics. Throughout, Adelle and Jack share stories of courage, compassion, and activism within religious communities, underscoring the vital role faith continues to play in addressing social and political challenges. More About Our Guests: Adelle M. Banks is the projects editor and a national reporter for Religion News Service, where she has covered religion, race, the faith of African Americans, and partnerships between government and religious organizations since joining the organization in 1995. Over a career spanning nearly three decades, she has earned awards including the 2024 William A. Reed Lifetime Achievement Award. Adelle is co-author of the book Becoming a Future-Ready Church: 8 Shifts to Encourage and Empower the Next Generation of Leaders.  Jack Jenkins is a national reporter for Religion News Service based in Washington, D.C., where he covers the intersection of religion and politics — with particular attention to U.S. Catholics and broader faith trends. He is the author of American Prophets: The Religious Roots of Progressive Politics and the Ongoing Fight for the Soul of the Country. Jack holds degrees in history, religion and philosophy, and a Master of Divinity focused on Christianity, Islam, and media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The latest episode of The State of Belief features two incredible guests: attorneys Mary Bonauto, a trailblazer in the fight for marriage equality who serves as Senior Director of Civil Rights and Legal Strategies at GLADLaw, and Ben Marcus, Senior Constitutional Law Fellow at GLADLaw. Together, they share invaluable insights on the current landscape of LGBTQ+ rights, particularly in the wake of recent legal challenges. Here are just three of the themes that stood out: The Resilience of Marriage Equality: Mary reflects on the recent Supreme Court decision regarding Kim Davis's attempt to challenge Obergefell v. Hodges (which Mary argued before the high court in 2015). Despite the fears surrounding the potential reversal of marriage equality, the unanimous decision from the Court signals a strong commitment to protecting the rights of same-sex couples. Mary emphasizes that the societal benefits of marriage—providing stability and protection for families—are too significant to overlook. This reinforces the idea that marriage equality is not just a legal issue but a fundamental aspect of human dignity and community well-being. The Role of Religious Communities: Ben highlights that not all religious individuals oppose LGBTQ+ rights. In fact, many religious communities are allies, advocating for equality and inclusion. This challenges the narrative that LGBTQ+ rights and religious freedom are inherently oppositional. By fostering dialogue within religious spaces, we can create a more inclusive environment that respects diverse identities and beliefs, ultimately enriching our communities. The Urgent Need for Advocacy in Education: Both Mary and Ben stress the critical situation facing LGBTQ+ youth, particularly transgender individuals, in schools. With increasing hostility and discrimination, many students are forced to seek education outside of traditional settings. This underscores the need for robust anti-discrimination policies and supportive educational environments. As advocates, we must work tirelessly to ensure that all students feel safe and valued in their schools, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity. This episode is a must-listen for anyone concerned with understanding the complexities of LGBTQ+ rights in today's society. Join us as we explore these pressing issues and discuss how we can all contribute to a more equitable future. More about the guests: Attorney Mary Bonauto has been with GLBTQ Legal Advocates and Defenders (GLADLaw) since 1990. She first fought for marriage equality in Massachusetts, as lead counsel in Goodridge v. Department of Public Health.  She won, making that the first state to allow same-sex couples to marry, in 2004. In 2015, Mary was one of three attorneys who successfully argued before the Supreme Court in Obergefell v. Hodges, leading to the expansion of the right to marry to all 50 states. Mary is a 2014 MacArthur Genius Grant recipient, and this past January, she received the Presidential Citizens Medal in a White House ceremony. Ben Marcus is an attorney and Senior Constitutional Law Fellow at GLADLaw, the leading LGTBQ+ legal services and civil rights organization. Ben has a deep interest in the relationship between religion and law, with a JD from Yale Law School and a master’s from Harvard Divinity School. Ben has held multiple positions at the Freedom Forum since 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief: incredible insights from the remarkable Dr. Najeeba Syeed. As a celebrated peacemaker, educator, and scholar in interfaith studies and conflict resolution, Najeeba brings a wealth of knowledge and compassion to the conversation. Here are some key takeaways that you'll find both intriguing and inspiring. Minneapolis is home to the largest Somali community outside of Mogadishu. It’s centered on the Cedar-Riverside Community, which has long been a welcoming place for refugees and immigrants, from Jewish congregations and Protestant refugees to East African immigrants, particularly Somali Americans. The Somali Muslim community here is facing increased scrutiny and enforcement actions by ICE, alongside divisive political rhetoric. In fact, over 80% of the Somali community are U.S. citizens, challenging the justification for targeting them. Najeeba celebrates the power of interfaith cooperation and unity in crisis, with powerful examples of interfaith gatherings, like a recent meeting hosted by a Muslim imam and a Christian pastor, attended by a supportive rabbi. Acts of emboldened empathy can look like simply showing up to support one another, like attending Friday prayers at mosques, can be a profound act of solidarity. The appeal of collective punishment is a worrying trend Najeeba identifies across the political spectrum. She warns against narratives that justify collective punishment of entire communities based on the actions of a few. Instead, Najeeba calls for collective empowerment, moving beyond zero-sum thinking to embrace a collective, pluralistic approach to power-building and recognizing that individual and communal flourishing are interconnected. The episode also features my conversation with Imam Ayman Soliman - granted asylum status way back in 2018 - a beloved chaplain at Cincinnati’s Children’s Hospital seized by ICE and held for ten weeks under threat of deportation. His case activated a wide interfaith network of support and concern. You’ll also hear about a brand-new public campaign from Interfaith Alliance, a 30-second video ad highlighting the immorality and horror of ICE disrupting religious and secular celebrations of this special time of the year. You can view and share the ad on youtube. And sign your name to the Love, Not Ice campagin today. More About Dr. Najeeba Syeed: Najeeba is a celebrated peacemaker, educator, and scholar in interfaith studies and conflict resolution, serving as the inaugural El-Hibri Endowed Chair and Executive Director of the Interfaith Institute at Augsburg University. She has more than two decades of experience in mediation, restorative justice, and social equity work. With communities in Minnesota being targeted for capricious enforcement of ICE policies, it is invaluable to have an expert witness and effective leader to share her insights with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the latest episode of The State of Belief, you’ll hear the insightful Rev. Dr. Brian Kaylor, President and Editor-in-Chief of Word & Way. Brian and host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush use the lens of his new book, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploring Scripture for Political Power, to focus on how scripture is being increasingly manipulated to justify distinctly non-biblical politics and policies – particularly at the Pentagon. Of the themes that emerged in the conversation, these were particularly notable: The Misuse of Scripture: Brian discusses how certain factions within Christianity, particularly Christian Nationalists, exploit biblical texts to promote a narrative of violence and division. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing these manipulations and encourages listeners to engage with the Bible in a more faithful and loving manner. The Role of Faith in Politics: We explore the troubling trend of intertwining faith with militarism, particularly in the context of the U.S. military. Brian highlights the monthly Pentagon prayer services led by fringe faith figures associated with Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, preachers who promote a theology that justifies violence in the name of God. Courage in the Face of Oppression: One of the most inspiring parts of our discussion was Brian’s reflection on the growing movement of individuals standing up against Christian Nationalism. He shares examples of grassroots rallies where people are finding their voices and courage to advocate for a more inclusive and pluralistic society – and the courage they summon to do so. Paul starts the episode with an urgent check-in with Rev. Noelle D'Amico, Director of Social Justice at the Workers Circle. The organization and its partners are bearing faithful witness to the human rights abuses being committed in Americans' name at the so-called Alligator Alcatraz in Florida as well as other shadowy detention centers. The Rev. Dr. Brian Kaylor is president and editor-in-chief of Word&Way. He’s also an ordained Baptist minister and a prolific author.  His newest book, The Bible According to Christian Nationalists: Exploiting Scripture for Political Power, reveals how scripture is twisted to justify the politics of hate and division. The book is a master class in learning how to recognize these manipulations--and how to discover a more faithful way to read the Bible through the lens of Jesus' love and justice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, The National Latino Evangelical Coalition launched the Advent Welcome Campaign, which says: there's room in the inn. That in Advent, we should have space for immigrants, for foreigners, for refugees fleeing political persecution and fleeing places that are very difficult. That’s why we’re releasing this week’s episode of The State of Belief early – because it’s a chance to hear NaLEC President and Founder Rev. Dr. Gabriel Salguero’s powerful words about the season and the pressing social issues, the importance of advocacy, and the role of faith in addressing the challenges faced by immigrant communities. Here are three key takeaways that resonated with me: The Importance of a Diverse Evangelical Voice: Gabriel emphasizes that Latino evangelicals are not a monolith. With over 10 million Latino Evangelicals in the US, it's crucial to recognize the diversity of thought and experience within this community. They are not just swing voters; they have their own unique voices and public policy priorities that extend beyond the traditional party lines. This diversity enriches the broader evangelical conversation and highlights the need for inclusive dialogue on issues that matter to all of us. Courage in Advocacy: Courage is a recurring theme in our discussion. Gabriel calls for faith leaders from all backgrounds to stand up for the marginalized, particularly immigrants facing unjust treatment. He shares powerful stories of families torn apart by indiscriminate immigration enforcement and the moral imperative for faith communities to respond with compassion and action. This episode serves as a reminder that true faith is not just about belief but also about living out those beliefs through advocacy and support for those in need. The Advent Welcome Campaign We also discuss the launch of the Advent Welcome Immigration Solidarity Initiative, "Room in the Inn." This campaign invites all faith leaders and communities to create space for immigrants and refugees during the Advent season. It’s a call to action that aligns with the core message of hospitality found in the Christian tradition. As Gabriel eloquently states, “When Jesus said, ‘I was a stranger and you welcomed me’, he wasn’t kidding.” This initiative is a powerful reminder of our shared responsibility to welcome the stranger and uphold human dignity – especially at this time of the year. Rev. Dr. Gabriel Salguero is a prominent Latino evangelical pastor and the founder of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition (NaLEC), a movement that is non-partisan, Biblical, Gospel-centered, pastoral, and rooted in the life of Christ. He was the former Director of the Hispanic Leadership Program (HLP), and the Institute for Faith and Public Life at Princeton Theological Seminary. He also leads a multicultural congregation as pastor of The Gathering Place, a Latino‑led Assemblies of God church in Orlando, Florida, alongside his wife, Rev. Jeanette Salguero. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush is joined by the Very Rev. Winnie Varghese, the first female dean of the Cathedral of St. John the Divine in New York City. As a queer Episcopal priest born to Indian immigrants, she brings a unique perspective to the challenges and opportunities facing faith communities today. In this episode, we dive deep into her journey, the significance of her role, and the current state of faith in America. Here are three key takeaways that resonated with me: The Power of Belonging: Rev. Winnie emphasizes the importance of creating spaces where everyone feels they belong. The Cathedral of St. John the Divine is not just a historic building; it serves as a beacon of hope and inclusivity for people from all walks of life. Integrating Identity and Faith: One of the most profound moments in the conversation is when Rev. Winnie shares her experience of realizing her call to the priesthood and embracing her identity as a queer woman. She highlights that these aspects of her life are not separate but are deeply intertwined. This integration of identity and faith is crucial for authentic ministry and serves as an inspiration for others navigating similar journeys. Responding to Current Challenges: In light of the rising tide of White Christian nationalism, Rev. Winnie calls for a proactive approach to ministry that emphasizes advocacy and community-building. She discusses the importance of addressing social justice issues through action and engagement, reminding us that faith must be lived out in tangible ways. Don’t miss this enlightening conversation that challenges us to rethink our roles in our communities and the broader society. More About the Very Rev. Winnie Varghese: Rev. Winnie is the first female dean of the largest cathedral in the United States, the Cathedral of St. John the Divine in New York City. A graduate of Union Theological Seminary, Rev. Varghese has held pastoral positions in Atlanta, Los Angeles, and at several other New York congregations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush is joined by Dr. Maria J. Stephan, co-lead and chief organizer at the Horizons Project. In the conversation, we get her expert take on the pressing issues of authoritarianism, democracy, and the vital role of faith in social movements. A key component of that is faithful, nonviolent resistance, which Maria has observed and supported in different parts of the world. The ground covered includes: The Subtle Erosion of Democracy: Maria emphasizes that democracies are not always dismantled through overt military coups; rather, they often face a slow, insidious decline. Authoritarian leaders can undermine democratic norms and institutions by eliminating checks and balances, weaponizing government agencies, and suppressing dissent. The Power of Faith in Resistance: Throughout history, religious communities have played a pivotal role in resisting authoritarianism. Maria highlights how faith leaders and congregations are stepping up to provide moral support and physical presence in protests and acts of civil disobedience. Courage in Action: Courage manifests in various forms, from speaking out against injustice to putting one’s body on the line for the sake of others. Maria reminds us that courage is contagious; when individuals see others taking a stand, it inspires them to do the same. This ripple effect is vital for sustaining movements and fostering a culture of resistance. We encourage you to listen to this meaningful and timely episode, and reflect on how we can each contribute to the fight for democracy and justice. About Dr. Maria J. Stephan Maria is co-lead and chief organizer at the Horizons Project, which works on building inclusive democracy and dismantling tyranny through nonviolent action. She is a political scientist and co-author of the award-winning book Why Civil Resistance Works. Previously, Maria served as Director of the Program on Nonviolent Action at the U.S. Institute of Peace and held foreign affairs roles in the U.S. State Department. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The latest episode of The State of Belief features the esteemed historian and author, Rev. Dr. Randall Balmer. We go in-depth with his latest book, America's Best Idea: The Separation of Church and State, and explore the critical importance of this principle in today's America. Here are three key takeaways: The Historical Roots of Separation: Randall emphasizes that the concept of separation of Church and State is not just a recent source of concern, but a foundational principle rooted in the diverse religious landscape of early America. The Founding Fathers, aware of the religious conflicts in Europe, sought to create a nation where no single religion would dominate. The Threat of Majoritarianism: One of the most striking points Randall makes is the current Supreme Court's tendency to favor majoritarianism, particularly in matters of religion. He argues that the court's decisions often reflect the beliefs of a Christian majority, sidelining the rights of minority faiths and non-religious individuals. The Call for Courage and Hope: In a time when religious freedom is under attack, Randall encourages us all to embrace small acts of resistance and to remain hopeful. He reminds us that courage can manifest in various forms, from participating in rallies to engaging in meaningful conversations about faith and democracy. It’s an enlightening conversation with Dr. Balmer, as we navigate the complexities of faith, politics, and the future of our democracy. Together, we explore how we can uphold the separation of Church and State and ensure that all voices are heard in our society. More about Randall Balmer A prize-winning historian and Emmy Award nominee, a New York Times best-selling author, Randall Balmer holds the John Phillips Chair in Religion at Dartmouth, the oldest endowed professorship at Dartmouth College. He's also an Episcopal priest, and as early as 1989, he was publishing books like Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory: A Journey into Evangelical Subculture in America, and Thy Kingdom Come: How the Religious Right Distorts Faith and Threatens America. Most recently, Dr. Balmer published America's Best Idea: The Separation of Church and State, addressing some of the most foundational and endangered principles of our history and national identity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The State of Belief, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush dives deep into some critical issues facing our nation with Skye Perryman, President and CEO of Democracy Forward. They discussed the legal battle to restore SNAP food benefits during the government shutdown; challenges facing the Supreme Court and our legal system; how faith communities are stepping up to protect vulnerable populations; and the critical role of courage in defending democratic institutions. With 42 million Americans, including children, veterans, and working families, at risk of losing food benefits – ostensibly due to the government shutdown, a coalition led by the Rhode Island Council of Churches and Democracy Forward sued the administration to restore these benefits – and won. Skye's message is clear: We can't wish our way out of challenging times - we must go through them, together, with courage and community. She stresses that “Courage is the new currency" for creating positive change, and legal action remains a powerful tool for protecting citizens' rights. The episode begins with a short visit with Rev. Rachel Griffin-Allison, Senior Pastor at Oak Lawn United Methodist Church in Dallas, Texas. With the philosophy "Silence is not love", her congregation painted their church steps as a rainbow flag in an act of sacred resistance to Governor Abbott’s decree that rainbow-colored crosswalks must be removed from the state. This simple but powerful act can serve as inspiration for each of us to take action where we are, how we can.   About Skye Perryman and Democracy Forward: Skye Perryman is a lawyer and the President & CEO of Democracy Forward, a non-partisan national legal organization. Under her leadership, Democracy Forward uses litigation, regulatory engagement, and policy work to defend democracy, protect civil rights and social progress, and challenge unlawful executive action. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week The State of Belief features the fascinating Scott Carter, creator, executive producer, and host of the Ye Gods with Scott Carter podcast. In this episode, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush and Scott explore the intersections of belief, doubt, and the moral codes that guide us. Notable ideas include: The Power of Intentional Curiosity: Scott shares his transformative journey following a near-death experience due to asthma. This epiphany moment led him to make a profound commitment: to engage openly with discussions about religion and spirituality without sarcasm or dismissal. His intentional curiosity opened doors to understanding diverse beliefs and perspectives, showing that being open-hearted can lead to deeper connections and insights. Art as a Spiritual Medium: Throughout the conversation, Scott emphasizes the role of art in exploring spirituality. He believes that creativity can serve as a powerful conduit for understanding and expressing our beliefs. Whether through theater, comedy, or storytelling, art allows us to engage with complex themes of existence and morality. Navigating Life 's Challenges with Compassion: Scott's experiences in the competitive world of television, particularly on shows like Politically Incorrect, taught him the importance of compassion in every interaction. He shares how he strives to treat everyone—guests, colleagues, and audiences—with respect and love. Be sure to hear this enlightening episode as we explore these themes and more! Scott’s insights are not only thought-provoking but also serve as a guide for navigating our own beliefs and interactions in a complex world. More About Scott Carter and Ye Gods Scott Carter is the creator, executive producer, and host of the Ye Gods with Scott Carter podcast, where he invites comedians, writers, thinkers, and artists to talk about belief, doubt, and the moral codes that guide them. Scott has 21 Emmy nominations and many, many industry awards for his work in television, where he served as producer and writer for shows like Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher and Real Time with Bill Maher. He's been a stand-up comedian. He's also a playwright whose works cover culture, spirituality, and storytelling. They've been produced in cities all across the US and abroad. The Ye Gods podcast gets into the spiritual beliefs and guiding principles of a variety of guests, going in depth with notable individuals from various fields with no judgment and no agenda. Ye Gods is created with Southwest Florida's WGCU Public Media and is distributed by the NPR Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"The feeling of not being alone is probably one of the most powerful tools we have." The latest episode The State of Belief features Dr. Diana Butler Bass. As an award-winning author, speaker, and theologian, Diana brings a wealth of insight to the intersection of faith, spirituality, and contemporary issues. In this episode, we dive deep into her new book, A Beautiful Year: 52 Meditations on Faith, Wisdom, and Perseverance, and explore the importance of community, the power of alternative narratives, and the call to courage in these challenging times. The conversation includes: The Power of Gathering: Diana shares her journey of creating community through her online newsletter, The Cottage. Initially hesitant to see herself as a gatherer, she discovered the profound impact of bringing people together, especially during the isolating times of the pandemic. Reclaiming the Christian Calendar: Host Paul Brandeis Raushenbush and Diana discuss how the Christian calendar offers an alternative structure of time that can ground us in hope and resilience. She emphasizes that this calendar is not just a relic of the past but a living tradition that can help us navigate the complexities of our current world. Courage to Stand Against Injustice: Diana encourages us to tap into our best selves and draw inspiration from historical figures who have stood up for justice and peace. She reminds us that while Christianity has often been misused to support oppressive systems, there is a rich tradition of resistance and compassion within the faith. This call to courage is not just for Christians but for all of us, as we seek to help each other get through these challenging times. It's a thought-provoking episode about exploring how we can reclaim our narratives, foster community, and find the courage to stand up for what is right. Diana Butler Bass is an award-winning author, speaker, and theologian whose books include Christianity after Religion: The End of Church and the Birth of a New Spiritual Awakening, and Freeing Jesus, among many others. The latest, A Beautiful Year: 52 Meditations on Faith, Wisdom, and Perseverance, will be published on November 4. Her Substack, The Cottage, remains among the top five religion-oriented newsletters on the site. Please share this episode with at least one person you think would enjoy the conversation! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“What we will do will not be enough. That, however, is not the reason for not doing anything." The latest episode of The State of Belief features the inspiring Rev. Dr. Chloe Breyer, Executive Director of the Interfaith Center of New York. Rev. Chloe and host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushebush dive deep into the intersection of faith, activism, and community engagement in today's complex landscape. Here are three key takeaways: The Power of Nonviolent Resistance: Rev. Chloe emphasizes the importance of nonviolence in our current socio-political climate. Drawing from historical figures like Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr., she highlights how faith communities can harness the strength of peaceful protest to stand against violence and injustice. Interfaith Collaboration is Essential: The episode sheds light on the vital role that interfaith work plays in fostering understanding and solidarity among diverse communities. Rev. Chloe shares insights from the Interfaith Center of New York, which has been a beacon of hope and collaboration since its founding. Courage in the Face of Adversity: Rev. Chloe speaks candidly about the weight of responsibility that comes with being a faith leader in today's world. She defines courage not just as the absence of fear, but as the willingness to act despite it. This perspective is particularly relevant as we navigate the challenges posed by authoritarianism and social division. For 18 years, Rev. Dr. Chloe Breyer has been leading the Interfaith Center of New York, the most religiously diverse and civically engaged network of grassroots and immigrant religious leaders across the five boroughs of New York City. Ordained in the Episcopal tradition, Rev. Chloe has also been a priest at St. Philip's Episcopal Church in Harlem since 2011. As a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, she has participated in interfaith dialogues and humanitarian initiatives in countries such as Afghanistan and Iran. And Rev. Chloe served as a clergy advisor on transition teams for New York City's mayor and Manhattan District Attorney. Rev. Chloe is the daughter of retired Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer. Please share this episode with one person you think would enjoy the conversation! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The latest episode of The State of Belief features Adam Friedman, organizing and election strategist at Interfaith Alliance. In this episode, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush and Adam dive deep into the significance of the upcoming No Kings demonstration on October 18th and the vital role of faith communities in advocating for democracy. The discussion emphasizes: ·      The Power of Collective Action: Adam emphasizes that democracy is under threat, and now is the time to take to the streets and assert a commitment to a government "of the people, by the people, for the people." The No Kings demonstration is not just a protest; it's a celebration of democratic values and a powerful reminder that authoritarianism is not a foregone conclusion. ·      Faith as a Catalyst for Change: Adam highlights the essential role that people of faith play in social movements. Faith traditions have a rich history of advocating for justice, and by showing up, we can bring our moral voices to the forefront of the fight for democracy. ·      Know Your Rights and Stay Safe: In preparing for the NoKings demonstration, it's crucial to understand everyone’s fundamental rights as protesters. Adam reminds us that the rights to free speech, assembly, and religious expression are fundamental to our identity as Americans. Don’t miss the Interfaith Alliance webinar on The Sacred Tradition of Protest on Tuesday, October 14th.  All the details are available at interfaithalliance.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush is joined by Celina Stewart, Chief Executive Officer of the League of Women Voters. They get into the way the League’s work has evolved over the past 105 years, with a focus on expanding access to the ballot, as well as on voter education, protecting voter rights, and strengthening civic engagement. Celina traces her own journey from discovering the League during her college years to leading it as a voting rights attorney. She reflects on the League's history, including its founding in 1920 and its progressive role in enfranchising women and marginalized communities. She emphasizes the organization’s current focus on voter protection and civic courage in the face of modern voter suppression tactics. Celina advocates for widespread participation in democracy through actions like the League's “Unite and Rise 8.5” initiative, aiming to mobilize millions of voters, as well as the national Vote 411 campaign. The conversation also highlights the importance of knowledge in reducing misinformation as well as combating disinformation, and underscores the civic duty to show up courageously against injustices – even if one has to do it in circumstances that can sometimes be scary. The episode also includes the comments of Lt. Gen. Charles D. Luckey (Ret.), reacting to the extraordinary gathering of our military's leaders from around the world to hear remarks from Secretary Pete Segheth and the nation's commander-in-chief.  More about Celina Stewart Celina joined the League in 2018 as director of advocacy and litigation, and later served as senior director and chief counsel. Appointed CEO just three months before the 2024 election, she guided the organization through one of the most consequential election cycles in modern history. A creative legal strategist, Celina has led litigation to protect voters from intimidation and disinformation. Before joining the League, she served as chief operating officer and director of philanthropy at FairVote, where she advanced structural election reform and organizational growth. More about Charles D. Luckey Lt. Gen. Charles D. Luckey (Ret.) served in the US Army and Army National Guard for 43 years. He retired from the Army as its oldest Green Beret in uniform after serving as the Commanding General of the United States Army Reserve Command from 2016 to 2020. Charles is a graduate of the University of Connecticut School of Law. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Religious freedom and public education: how do these issues come together? This week on The State of Belief, we hear leading voices make a compelling argument for ensuring the latter comes with a healthy dose of the former: Labor leader Randi Weingarten, activist Rabbi Sharon Kleinbaum, and Democracy Forward's Skye Perryman. Most of this episode was recorded live in Dallas, Texas, at a Religious Freedom in Public Schools Summit convened by Interfaith Alliance. In dialogue with host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush, who moderated the conversation, Rabbi Sharon stresses how important separation of Church and State has been to the full inclusion of people who confess minority religions, including Judaism, in our country. A cornerstone of that is ensuring that public education remains a neutral ground where children from diverse backgrounds can learn together. Randi highlights the immense pressure placed on teachers when faced with mandates for religious instruction. Teachers find themselves in a challenging position, often caught between differing parental beliefs and the need to create an inclusive environment for all students. Randi emphasizes the importance of supporting our educators, ensuring they have the resources and backing to foster critical thinking and respect for diverse beliefs without imposing any one ideology. Then we hear Skye Perryman, President and CEO of Democracy Forward, offer eye-opening facts about the shifting global landscape of democracy. Marking International Democracy Day, Skye offers vital insights into how grassroots activism can counter the global drift toward autocracy - a trend affecting countries across the globe, including the United States, where she sees it playing out in public education policies, among other places. With compelling urgency, she underscores the importance of confronting extremism, misinformation, and regressive judicial decisions that threaten the very core of democratic principles, and the role of public schools in that struggle. More about the speakers: The longtime leader of the largest LGBTQ synagogue in the world, Congregation Beit Simchat Torah in New York City, Rabbi Sharon holds the title of Senior Rabbi Emerita and is now leading The Beacon, a nationwide grassroots movement of public witness. Rabbi Sharon is married to Randi Weingarten, President of the American Federation of Teachers. AFT represents 1.8 million educators and health care professionals across the country. Randi has just released a brand-new book, titled Why Fascists Fear Teachers. Skye Perryman is the President and CEO of Democracy Forward, “working tirelessly every day to safeguard our enduring, yet fragile, democracy.” That’s the description Time Magazine included in listing Skye as one of the 100 most influential people of 2025. We hope you'll take the time to listen - and share this insightful episode with at least one person you think would benefit from hearing it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush is joined by Jonathan Jacoby, National Director of the Nexus Project. The compelling conversation highlights Jonathan's unique insights on confronting antisemitism and fostering a pluralistic democracy. Drawing from his family history as the descendant of Holocaust survivors and his intrinsic connection to Israel, he provides a thoughtful examination of the challenges that arise when discussing Israel, especially within progressive communities. He makes clear the fine line between legitimate critique and antisemitism, guided by the influential Nexus Document's criteria. By spotlighting crucial distinctions like antisemitic tropes and the problematic imposition of collective responsibility on Jews for Israel's actions, Jonathan champions the power of informed discourse. The episode also ventures into the complex territory of Jewish identity and advocacy amid the ever-shifting political landscape. Jonathan candidly addresses the emotional and ethical dilemmas tied to Israel's policies, especially concerning Gaza and the potential for a Palestinian state, and how these issues resonate with the broader Jewish community. Highlighting the strength and guidance found in both religious and cultural Judaism, he also emphasizes the indispensable role of interfaith solidarity, particularly between Jewish and Christian communities, in combating antisemitism and advocating for peace. Jonathan's call for perseverance, respect, and open dialogue within the Jewish community itself offers a powerful reminder of the importance of unity and understanding in addressing both internal and external challenges. About Jonathan Jacoby: Jonathan is the National Director of the Nexus Project. He was the founding Executive Director of the New Israel Fund and founding President of the Israel Policy Forum. He also held leadership positions at the Jewish Federation of Greater Los Angeles and Americans for Peace Now. Jonathan has pioneered new models for public-private partnerships in the field of rare disease research as a co-founder of SOAR (Support Of Accelerated Research.) About the Nexus Project: The Nexus Project works to fight antisemitism, uphold democracy, and protect free speech - and recognizes that these tasks are intertwined. The Nexus team takes all accusations of antisemitism seriously, which is why they also speak out when fears of antisemitism are cynically exploited to stifle legitimate criticism of Israel or US policy. The Nexus Document is a framework for understanding antisemitism, Israel, and Zionism, detailing what does and what does not constitute antisemitism. We hope you'll take the time to listen - and share this timely episode with at least one person you think would appreciate hearing it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief - a conversation with Sam Helmick, the newly inaugurated president of the American Library Association. Sam and host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush mark National Library Card Sign-up Month by discussing the importance of libraries in advocating for intellectual freedom and access to information, noting that libraries are far more than just books - they are spaces for shared experiences and understanding differences. Sam shares the personal journey from feeling libraries were not meant for them to falling in love with the library as a pivotal community space. Emphasizing the theme “Our stories are worth sharing,” Sam highlights the transformative power of libraries and the need for community involvement. The conversation covers challenges faced by libraries, including censorship and misinformation, and the essential role libraries play in supporting democracy, freedom of expression, and education. Paul and Sam also underscore the importance of faith communities in supporting libraries and librarians, suggesting practical steps like using libraries, joining library boards, advocating against censorship - and of course, getting a library card! Interfaith Alliance, together with Unite Against Book Bans, has released a resource titled Banned Books, Banned Beliefs, and is preparing to roll out a major initiative, Faith for Libraries. And as Paul says, there is so much to learn about the American Library Association’s work at www.ala.org. Sam Helmick (they/them) is the 2025-26 president of the American Library Association. Sam is a librarian, advocate, and community leader known for their work defending intellectual freedom and expanding library access. We'd love to have you listen to and share this gripping episode with at least one person you think would appreciate hearing it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Trump administration’s federal takeover of the nation’s capital is having a profound impact on Washington, DC’s 700,000 residents - and on our very democracy. That’s according to this week’s guest on The State of Belief, Keya Chatterjee. Keya’s the co-founder and executive director of Free DC, a civic campaign defending Washington, DC’s home rule and protecting the civil liberties and democratic dignity of its residents. In this episode, Keya and host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush take an unflinching look at the current challenges facing Washington DC and the broader implications for democracy and civil liberties. Here are three key takeaways that are particularly noteworthy: The Importance of Listening and Believing: Keya emphasizes the critical need to take political rhetoric seriously. She highlights how the warnings from political leaders about authoritarianism should not be dismissed as mere rhetoric. Instead, we must listen and prepare for the potential consequences of their actions. Community and Collective Action: One of the most inspiring aspects of the conversation is Keya's focus on the strength of community. She shares how the people of DC and diverse organizations—including faith groups - are coming together to resist federal overreach and protect their rights. From training sessions to grassroots organizing, the emphasis on collective action is vital. As Keya states, "It is only in community that we will turn this around." Prioritizing Joy in Activism: Keya reminds us of the importance of joy in our activism. She discusses how Free DC incorporates joy into their organizing efforts, emphasizing that taking care of ourselves and each other is crucial for sustaining long-term resistance. This perspective is a reminder that while we fight for justice, we must also celebrate our victories and find joy in our shared humanity. After hearing this episode, you’ll have a deeper understanding of the current state of Washington DC, and the inspiring work being done by Free DC. The experiences Keya describes are a stark warning for other American cities, and for each of us. Learn more about the organization at www.freedcproject.org Keya Chatterjee has an impressive background in social and climate justice, having previously led the U.S. Climate Action Network, worked at World Wildlife Federation, USAID, and NASA. Under her leadership, Free DC has become a prominent voice opposing federal overreach - a very big job indeed, in the face of the Trump Administration’s forcing federal law enforcement on the district and expanding detention powers. Before the in-depth conversation with Keya Chatterjee, Paul spends a few minutes with Rev. Andy Oliver, pastor of Allendale United Methodist Church. He and a fellow clergyman were arrested this past week in St. Petersburg, Fla., while praying on a “Black History Matters” street mural - that was about to be destroyed - in front of the city’s Woodson African American Museum. We'd love to have you listen to and share this thought-provoking episode with at least one person you think would appreciate hearing it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

She's a Jewish woman who has spent countless hours undercover, impersonating the White supremacist, misogynistic, antisemitic extremists she was researching for her first book. She's also brought an outsider's view to the growing dominance of Christian Nationalism in our society and our government for her second. This week on The State of Belief, journalist and author Talia Lavin explains how the groups she covers in those two impactful books, Culture Warlords: My Journey into the Dark Web of White Supremacy, and Wild Faith: How the Christian Right is Taking Over America, in her words, "Got together and made the worst government ever." Three important additional points that emerge from the conversation: The Invisible Influence of Christian Hegemony: Talia discusses how Christian hegemony often goes unnoticed by those who grew up within it, while it remains glaringly obvious for those outside the faith - especially when it becomes more militant. This awareness is crucial for understanding the current political landscape and the implications of Christian nationalism. The Authoritarian Family Structure: One of the most striking aspects of Talia's research is her examination of how authoritarian parenting styles within certain Christian communities can shape broad societal attitudes. She highlights the works of influential figures like James Dobson, who died earlier this month. She sees his teachings on child-rearing as promoting a model of obedience and submission that can lead to accepting authoritarianism in adulthood. The Need for a Diverse Coalition Against Extremism: Talia emphasizes the importance of embracing a cacophony of voices in the fight against the rigid and coordinated forces of the Christian right. She advocates for a coalition that includes people of various faiths and those with no faith at all, working together to uphold the values of a multiracial democracy. We'd love to have you listen to and share this thought-provoking episode and reflect on these critical issues. Talia's newsletter is titled The Sword and the Sandwich. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does it mean to build bridges amidst the turmoil of the second Trump Administration? How have interfaith communities moved forward with productive dialogue post-October 7th? Is there a more nuanced way to think about Christian Nationalism and the MAGA constituency? In this episode of The State of Belief, Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenush and Interfaith America CEO Rev. Adam Nicholas Phillips explore these critical issues and much more. Adam's personal journey into interfaith work is compelling. He describes his upbringing in a non-traditional religious environment, his exploration of various faiths, and his eventual identification with evangelical Christianity. His experiences, including planting a church and getting through the consequences of advocating for LGBTQI+ inclusion, have shaped his understanding of faith and public life. Listen for an in-depth look at:• Interfaith America’s work on managing conflict in classrooms and workplaces, creating opportunities for groups to move beyond just coexisting and rather collaborating for a common cause.• How the inspiration of Live Aid and Adam’s past experience in leadership at USAID during the Biden-Harris administration, as well as as a faith leader, inform his current position as CEO at Interfaith America.• Navigating our polarized environment: “We find ourselves at a crossroads of sorts where the politicization of a number of our traditions has become quite difficult and untenable. But I keep trying to come at this with some sense of curiosity and not contempt.” Where to find Adam:• Check out his book, Love, Light, Joy & Justice: How To Be A Christian Now• Embrace the “power of pluralism,” and get involved with Interfaith America.• Hear more from Adam in his Ted Talk, “Inclusion: the ancient idea that just might save all of us.” There’s a lot to learn from this conversation. I hope you’ll share it with someone you know who’ll enjoy hearing it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush sits down with Ani Zonneveld,  feminist Muslim activist, musician, and Grammy-winning songwriter. Ani’s journey from Malaysia to Germany, Egypt, India and eventually Los Angeles - and the lessons learned along the way - is nothing short of inspiring. And she lays it all out in her brand-new memoir, titled The Unlikely Social Justice Warrior: Making My Life Count as a Muslim Feminist. As a diplomat’s daughter, Ani nurtured her social justice consciousness despite a privileged upbringing. From witnessing the aftermath of the Sinai War to playing soccer with a Dalit child in India, these moments shaped her anti-war and anti-racist beliefs. It was after 9/11 that Ani delved deep into Islam, discovering its egalitarian and inclusive roots and founding Muslims for Progressive Values, championing LGBTQ+ inclusion, gender equality, and human rights from a faith-based perspective. Music is a cornerstone of Ani’s spiritual journey. While pursuing a professional music career in LA, she faced sexism and racism, and experienced suppression of the diverse musical heritage of Muslim immigrants in the American context. Ani sees a conservative swing in Islam, which she describes as quite different from the religious tradition she grew up in. Ani hopes to inspire young people to channel their anger constructively and build alliances across differences, based on being exposed as students to diverse cultures and traditions in public schools, countering conservative efforts to restrict such content. There’s a lot of value in this conversation. I hope you’ll share it with someone you know who’ll enjoy hearing it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief, truth through comedy. Host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush welcomes comedic genius John Fugelsang, author of the new book Separation of Church and Hate: A Sane Person's Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds coming September 9th. Together, they delve into the tension between progressive values and mainstream Christianity, or as John puts it, being “too Christian for the liberals and way too liberal for the Christians.” As they explore this topic, John summarizes the teachings of Jesus: “Welcome the stranger, man. I mean, that's about it.” The child of a former Catholic priest and former Catholic nun, John aims his sharp wit and brilliant mind at a topic he is deeply passionate about: using Scripture to challenge the all-too-often unchallenged claims to godliness by Christian Nationalists and fundamentalist Christians. "I was raised in a Christianity that was about service, that was about love, that was about forgiveness, that guided us to the margins. What are you doing for the least among us? Are you welcoming the stranger? Are you caring for the poor? Are you trying to help those who are hated and despised on the lowest rungs? Because that was Jesus's whole ministry. You reach out to the marginalized.” “And, of course, as you know, the nice Christians don't get the airtime. You don't see the Christians on cable news talking about how war is bad or how homophobia is bad. You see the other kind - because villains make for better TV than nice people.” - Actor, author, comedian, commentator John Fugelsang. You can preorder his book that comes out September 9th,  Separation of Church and Hate: A Sane Person's Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds Check out his daily show Tell Me Everything with John Fugelsang on Sirius/XM Subscribe to his Substack to get political commentary right to your inbox. Keep up with his almost-daily podcast, the Sanity-Cast, which covers politics, religion, and pop culture. Also in this episode: an excerpt of Texas State Rep. James Talarico's definition of Christian Nationalism from a public conversation last week with Interfaith Alliance Vice President of Programs and Strategy Guthrie Graves-Fitzsimmons, who's also a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. The event was co-sponsored by the Center for American Progress Action Fund and Interfaith Alliance. The full recording is available here. Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush had the pleasure of interviewing Elizabeth Reiner Platt, the brilliant mind leading the Law, Rights, and Religion Project. They dive deep into her newly published report, Religious Liberty and Immigration: Legal Analysis of Past and Future Claims. Despite the administration's rhetoric about protecting religious liberty, their actual immigration policies have been directly attacking faith communities. Paul and Liz discuss the revocation of the “sensitive locations” policy, which previously protected places like houses of worship from ICE enforcement actions. This has had a direct impact on people of faith feeling safe to practice their religion in community. Faith leaders like Bishop Marion Budde have been targeted for their modest pleas consistent with gospel teachings. This administration has even gone after Catholic bishops for simply caring for refugees and immigrants. Faith communities have long been central to immigration justice movements, from the sanctuary movement of the 1980s to organizations like HIAS, which started by helping persecuted Jews during the 1880's and now supports refugees of all faiths. They explore the question of whether religious freedom is being applied equally to all faiths or just a narrow slice of the Christian right. This is a crucial point in understanding the broader implications of religious liberty claims. There’s been an increase in litigation tactics relying on the expansive interpretation of religious liberty created under the Roberts Court. Paul and Liz discuss cases like Masterpiece Cakeshop and how these precedents intersect with immigration contexts. Elizabeth Reiner Platt has been leading the Law, Rights & Religion Project since 2015. Her publications have included the report, “Whose Faith Matters? The Fight for Religious Liberty Beyond the Christian Right”, which is just incredibly relevant today. Liz is a legally trained scholar and advocate who leads efforts to reframe religious liberty in the U.S., especially in relation to gender justice, reproductive rights, and racial equity. Just last month, the Law, Rights & Religion Project moved from Columbia Law School  to Union Theological Seminary in New York, and this week it published Liz’s latest comprehensive report, titled Religious Liberty & Immigration: Legal Analysis of Past and Future Claims. If you enjoy the episode, please consider sharing it with your friends and family. Your support helps us continue these important conversations! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are back from a brief summer break, and are ready to hit the ground running! This week on The State of Belief, the political, ethical, religious and legal aspects of the sordid case of the Jefferey Epstein files. Whether or not there are incriminating documents, the relative silence from most faith-oriented leaders raises questions. Host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush is joined by author and attorney Rabbi Dr. Jay Michaelson. A visiting professor at Harvard Law School and a field scholar at the Emory Center for Psychedelics and Spirituality, Jay brings a wealth of knowledge and a unique perspective to our discussion. Paul and Jay dive deep into the ongoing saga surrounding the Epstein files and the implications for the current administration. They explore the ambivalence many progressives feel about discussing this topic, especially when there are so many pressing issues at hand. However, Jay argues that understanding the Epstein case is crucial, not just for its political ramifications but also for the fundamental issues of trust and transparency that it raises. You'll hear about the legal maneuvers surrounding the Epstein case, including the recent attempts to unseal grand jury transcripts and what that could mean for accountability. Jay provides clarity on the complex legal landscape and the potential consequences for those involved, including Donald Trump. Paul and Jay also reflect on the broader implications for democracy and the role of higher education. Jay shares his thoughts on how the current administration is reshaping the federal government and the challenges we face as a society. Rabbi Dr. Jay Michaelson is the author of ten books and a journalist whose work appears on CNN, in Rolling Stone, and in his weekly Substack newsletter, Both/And with Jay Michaelson. For twenty years, Jay's work has focused on the intersections of politics and religion. If you enjoy the episode, please consider sharing it with your friends and family. Your support helps us continue these important conversations! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What does falling off a bike have to do with the state of our nation? Is America going through an identity crisis - just like a seventeen-year-old? This week on The State of Belief, these parallels are part of the conversation with host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush and Dr. Robert P. Jones on America's first 249 years, and what's to come as the country approaches 250. All while they ask themselves the question: “How Bad Is It?” On this Independence Day episode, Paul and his guest, who is president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI), explore: PRRI’s recent polling on the Trump Administration: “Democracy at Crossroads: How Americans View Trump’s first 100 Days in Office,” and some of the misconceptions that have arisen. From De Tocqueville to Trump, how the notion of “creed” has developed over time, shaping the current state of religious freedom in America.  How we can meaningfully celebrate Juneteenth and July 4th together - and why we should! Towards the end of the episode, Robby leaves us with a powerful reminder of civic responsibility: “... whether it's inside a home, inside a business, inside a church or a synagogue or a mosque, there are roles for all of us to play because there is a fight going on, for - I know Biden used this term maybe a little too much, but I do think it's true - this kind of the soul of America really is, in many ways, at stake right now.” Where to find Robby Jones: Bookmark the PRRI website, where a wealth of invaluable research is regularly posted for free. Check out Robby’s bestselling books, The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy, and the Path to a Shared American Future; White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity; and The End of White Christian America. Subscribe to his Substack, White Too Long, where he frequently posts on religion, White Christian Nationalism, and protecting a pluralistic democracy. Have you heard these recent episodes of The State of Belief?  June 24, 2024: On Diversity and Democracy with Wajahat Ali June 14, 2025: A Pastor Reports from the Front Lines in Los Angeles: Faith and Immigration Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, subscribe, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief, popular writer and commentator Wajahat Ali joins host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush for a thought-provoking exploration of patriotism, diversity, and democracy in today’s politically charged climate. Waj shares his unique perspective on the responsibilities that immigrants and citizens face amid the continuing societal impacts of the Trump administration's policies. Together, they unravel the moral and ethical dilemmas of maintaining integrity in chaotic times, while drawing on historical and religious narratives to emphasize the importance of long-term justice and equality. Life is more than serving a cause we believe in, no matter how urgent that may be. And so they reflect on balancing professional aspirations with personal commitments. Waj opens up about his daughter’s passion for dance and her journey as a cancer survivor, juxtaposed with his career in writing and advocacy. They also tackle the power of storytelling in political activism and its role in challenging misinformation and fear-based tactics. The conversation delves into important themes, including: Navigating Patriotism, Diversity, and Democracy: Paul and Waj discuss the challenges faced by immigrants and citizens in a fascist political climate, emphasizing the importance of ethical grounding and personal responsibility. Finding Purpose and Superpowers: Waj has inspiring things to say about the roles available to each of us, if we’re truly interested in making a difference. There are strengths everyday citizens bring, even if that’s integrity and honesty as an act of resistance to corruption and lies. Christian Nationalism and Authoritarianism: Christian Nationalism demands the suppression of diverse stories in the service of a single self-serving narrative. It uses fear and ignorance to advance a specific  kind of White Christian agenda, targeting, in turn, LGBTQ, Black, Muslim, and Jewish communities – and leaving no room, in the end, even for dissenting White Christians like Mike Pence. Wajahat Ali is the author of Go Back to Where You Came From and Other Helpful Recommendations on How to Become an American. He has a very popular Substack, The Left Hook With Wajahat Ali, and co-hosts The Democracy-ish Podcast. Waj is a Daily Beast columnist, a writer, television commentator and keen observer of what this country seems to be doing to itself. The child of immigrants, he's an invaluable contributor to the conversation around patriotism, diversity and democracy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief, an inspiring conversation with Rev. Noel Andersen, the National Field Director for Church World Service and a dedicated advocate for immigrant rights. In this episode, he joins host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush to delve into the pressing issues surrounding immigration enforcement, the role of faith communities, and the ongoing fight for justice in the face of adversity. Here are three key takeaways that stand out: The Reality of Court Raids: Noel shares firsthand accounts of ICE agents conducting raids at courthouses, targeting asylum seekers who are simply following the legal process. This alarming trend highlights the urgent need for awareness and action within our communities. The Power of Faith Communities: Throughout the episode, the focus is on the vital role that faith leaders and religious organizations play in advocating for immigrant rights. Noel emphasizes the importance of building relationships with impacted communities and using our moral voices to challenge unjust policies. The Broader Fight for Democracy: The conversation also touches on the intersection of immigration and democracy. Noel articulates how the current administration's tactics are part of a larger strategy to destabilize democratic values. This is a call to action for all of us to engage in the fight for democracy, not just for immigrants but for the integrity of our society as a whole. The episode wraps up with Paul’s words from the June 10th Faith Rally for a Moral Budget at the US Capitol, as well as a conversation he recorded at that event with two of the leaders attending from Iowa: Interfaith Alliance of Iowa Executive Director Connie Ryan and Rev. Heather Wachendorf. Listen to this powerful episode and reflect on how you can contribute to the ongoing struggle for justice and equality. Together, we can amplify the voices of those who are often silenced and work towards a more inclusive future. Rev. Noel Andersen is the National Field Director for Church World Service where he has developed a national network of faith communities taking action in solidarity with immigrants and refugees. He is ordained in the United Church of Christ (UCC) and is the lead organizer and co-founder of the UCC National Collaborative on Immigration, a grassroots network of UCC leaders taking action for immigrants’ rights. Noel works at the intersection of faith and justice, mobilizing religious communities to resist unjust immigration enforcement, including ICE raids in Los Angeles and beyond. Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, subscribe, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief – getting ready for No Kings Day on June 14th, an initiative of the national grassroots organization Indivisible. Co-founder Leah Greenberg explains that No Kings Day is a forceful nationwide response to the royal pretensions on display in Donald Trump's demand for a multi-million dollar military parade on his 79th birthday. Leah joins Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush to discuss the importance of getting involved rather than discouraged, share past Indivisible successes and lessons learned, and the essential role faith leaders and communities play in giving credibility to public actions like this. Leah traces the origins of Indivisible, where she serves as co-executive director, back to authoring The Indivisible Guide in the wake of the 2016 election. The conversation highlights the importance of: The Power of Local Organizing: Leah emphasizes how grassroots movements can effectively challenge the status quo. After the 2016 election, many individuals who had never been politically active stepped up to organize in their communities. This surge of local activism powered the growth of Indivisible, and it continues to be a driving force in the fight for democracy today. Building Coalitions Across Differences: To be seen as serious, a coalition needs diverse voices and perspectives. Leah points out that while we may not agree on every issue, we can unite around shared values, such as the dignity of all human life and the commitment to a pluralistic democracy. This approach is essential, especially in a time when divisiveness can easily fracture movements. Mobilization as a Strategy: Leah shares insights on the significance of mass mobilization in the current political climate. With the upcoming No Kings initiative, Indivisible aims to demonstrate that there is a strong and growing opposition to authoritarianism. Mobilization is not just about numbers; it's about sending a message, building community, and preparing for future actions. As Leah noted, "We are building muscles to mobilize," which is crucial for sustaining momentum in the fight for democracy. Leah Greenberg is co-founder and co-executive director of Indivisible, a grassroots movement with over one million participants – and counting. A former congressional staffer, she co-authored We Are Indivisible: A Blueprint for Democracy After Trump. Leah has been recognized for her leadership in civic engagement and was named one of Time magazine’s 100 most influential people in 2019. Indivisible is partnering with many groups - including Interfaith Alliance - for the upcoming No Kings initiative on June 14, 2025. Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, subscribe, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief, you’ll hear a powerful conversation with Rev. Jim Wallis and host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush, diving deep into his upcoming event on June 10th at the Capitol, A Pentecost Witness for a Moral Budget, which aims to address critical issues surrounding the Reconciliation Bill and its potential cuts to vital programs like Medicaid and SNAP. Just a couple of highlights: How Can Faith and Action Unite? Jim connects the Christian tradition of Pentecost and the current moment we find ourselves in. Just as the early followers of Jesus found courage to speak out in the streets, we too are called to rise above fear and take action. This event is not just a protest; it’s a public witness to our values as people of faith, transcending partisan politics. Why is the Budget a Moral Document? Wallis emphasizes that the choices we make in our budgets reflect our values and priorities as a society. So we’re not just advocating for specific programs; we’re advocating for a moral budget that aligns with the teachings of Jesus and supports the most vulnerable among us. What Does a Call to Collective Action Look Like? There are still ways for all of us to engage in the democratic process. Whether you can attend the event in person or not, there are numerous ways to participate. From writing letters to your senators to mobilizing your community, every action counts. Jim reminds us that moments like these can change the narrative and impact votes. Together, we can show that faith communities are not silent but are actively engaged in shaping a more just and compassionate society. You’ll also hear an excerpt from Sen. Cory Booker’s marathon Senate speech last month, where he and Sen. Chris Coons raised up Scripture as a guide toward the values our federal budget should truly embody as a moral document. Listen to this episode and join in this important movement. Let’s come together to advocate for a budget that reflects our shared values and supports those in need. The Pentecost Witness for a Moral Budget is Tuesday, June 10th, at the US Capitol in Washington, DC. Rev. Jim Wallis is the founder of Sojourners Magazine and the Sojourners Christian Community, and has been at the forefront of bringing together faith and social justice activism for decades, advocating for for issues such as racial equality, poverty alleviation, peace, and environmental stewardship as a preacher, teacher, best-selling author, and theologian. He currently serves as the founding Director of the Center on Faith and Justice at Georgetown University. Jim’s books include God’s Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It, and The False White Gospel: Rejecting Christian Nationalism, Reclaiming True Faith, and Refounding Democracy. Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, subscribe, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

June, traditionally Pride Month, is almost here, and this year, Pride will test the courage of our nation. It has been a challenging time for the LGBTQ+ community - with attempts to erase trans people, roll back civil rights for the wider LGBTQ community, ban Pride flags, and in 10 states there are bills to take back the right to marry... as well as pressure for corporations and faith groups to distance themselves from Pride celebrations. In a powerful response, Interfaith Alliance is bringing together an amazing coalition of leaders and communities around the urgent call to Recommit to Pride - and we are encouraging people from all backgrounds to sign the Recommit to Pride Pledge. This week on The State of Belief, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush welcomes Rabbi Sharon Kleinbaum, a true pioneer in progressive activism and LGBTQ+ inclusion within the Jewish community. Rabbi Kleinbaum has dedicated her life to creating spaces of faith and support for marginalized communities, and her insights are more relevant now than ever. In this in-depth conversation, you’ll hear all about: The Power of Community and Action: Rabbi Kleinbaum emphasizes that while no one can do everything, everyone can do something. This mantra has guided her throughout her journey, from her early days in the LGBTQ+ movement to her current role as the director of The Beacon, a multi-faith initiative aimed at mobilizing communities in response to political challenges. Joy Amidst Struggle: One of the most profound lessons offered is the importance of making room for joy, even in the face of suffering. Rabbi Kleinbaum highlights how both the Jewish and LGBTQ+ communities have historically used humor and celebration as tools for survival. She reminded us that while we must acknowledge the pain and challenges we face, we also have a responsibility to nurture our spirits and find joy in our lives. Engagement in the Present Moment: Rabbi Kleinbaum's work with The Beacon encourages each of us to take an active role in our communities. By participating in local actions and expressing a vision for a better future, we can create a "split screen" that showcases both the challenges we face, and the hope we hold. Rabbi Sharon Kleinbaum is a fixture in Jewish life, progressive activism, and interfaith organizing in New York City and far beyond. She led the largest LGBTQ synagogue in the world, Congregation Beit Simchat Torah, from 1992 – 2024 with a powerful message of inclusivity, social justice and spiritual resistance. From service and support to the most marginalized during the height of the AIDS crisis, to the devastation of the first Trump administration, Rabbi Sharon brought courage and wisdom to her decades of leadership at CBST, where she now holds the title of Rabbi Emerita. Today she serves as director of The Beacon, and teaches at Jewish Theological Seminary in New York City and the Rabbinical School of Hebrew College in Boston. Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, subscribe, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on the show, we're honored to welcome Lt. Gen. Charles D. Luckey (Retired), former Chief of the United States Army Reserve, joining host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush. He’s a combat veteran, he’s an attorney, and he’s a pastor’s son – so he's able to cover a wide range of topics with depth and wisdom. Having sworn an oath to the Constitution, Lt. Gen. Luckey has some really great insights into the responsibilities of citizenship, the urgent need to preserve democracy, and the important role for religion in this moment of American – and human – history. With a career that’s equal parts military precision and legal acumen, Lt. Gen. Luckey provides an unparalleled perspective on the challenges confronting democratic institutions today. Raised by politically diverse parents, he sees this moment and this country in a resolutely nonpartisan way. And that also leads Lt. Gen. Luckey to be able to see profound opportunity for faith communities in this time of turmoil and division. Through the lens of a former judge advocate, the conversation expands to explore the core values underpinning lawful military orders and civil service oaths. These insights underscore the enduring necessity of character and integrity across both military and civilian spheres. Are we in a constitutional crisis? Not yet, he says. But we’re getting closer. Quoting a conservative circuit court judge, Lt. Gen. Luckey finds both inspiration and a warning that goes far beyond partisanship, right to the heart of both: the love of country, and the love of neighbor. Retired Lt. Gen. Charles Luckey is the former Chief of the United States Army Reserve. In that position, he was responsible for manning, training, and equipping a force of more than 200,000 Soldiers and civilians across 50 states, five territories, and more than 30 countries. Having completed three combat tours, Lt. Gen. Luckey is a practicing attorney and a leading voice for American values at home and around the world. He regularly shares his insights on his LinkedIn page. Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, subscribe, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The State of Belief, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush welcomes Kelly Jensen. She’s a passionate advocate for intellectual freedom, democracy, and the right to read. As an editor at Book Riot and a former librarian, Kelly has been at the forefront of the fight against book bans and censorship. The urgent conversation covers the growing wave of censorship, the role of religious extremism in book-banning efforts, and what we can do to safeguard free expression and democratic values. Kelly shares her personal experiences and insights on the emotional impact of censorship, the importance of diverse stories, and how communities can come together to support libraries and schools. The discussion includes practical steps each of us can take, such as attending library board meetings, writing letters of support, and engaging in local elections to protect the freedom to read. Later, Paul is joined by Rev. Amos Brown, the longtime president of the NAACP of San Francisco and a lifelong civil rights leader. He tells the story of loaning the Smithsonian Institution precious personal items – a historical Bible and the first book about Black American history – and how, seemingly in implementing an anti-diversity executive order, the Smithsonian attempted to return them. (He notes that most recently, there seems to be movement toward reversing this decision.) Kelly Jensen is editor at Book Riot, the largest independent editorial book site in North America. Her weekly newsletter tracking violations of the right to read and opportunities for advocacy is titled Literary Activism. Rev. Dr. Amos Brown is a longtime pastor of Third Baptist Church in San Francisco, a congregation attended by Vice President Kamala Harris. One of the very few students at Morehouse College who were taught by Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., Amos serves as president of the NAACP San Francisco branch. Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On Wednesday, April 30th, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush was with Faithful America Executive Director Rev. Dr. Shannon Fleck in front of the Supreme Court building, saying “No!” to tax dollars being funneled to private religious schools. That’s the issue that was before the justices as they heard arguments in St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School v. Drummond. This week, The State of Belief starts with an urgent message Shannon and I recorded that morning at the Court. After that, you’ll hear an in-depth conversation they had a few weeks earlier, getting into her background as a probation officer and Oklahoma native called to ministry and faith-driven activism. Shannon’s passion for social justice and skill at organizing around shared religious values were evident in her time leading the Oklahoma Faith Network. During that time, the organization developed programs like “No Hate in the Heartland.” The St. Isidore case originated in Oklahoma, and Shannon is intimately familiar with its history and its significance for anyone concerned with the Establishment Clause of the US Constitution. The background she reveals makes clear exactly why this is such a big deal. Most recently, Rev. Fleck was chosen to serve as executive director of Faithful America, the largest online community of Christians advocating for social justice. It’s an incredibly difficult time to step into that kind of role, but our conversation shows why she was called to this role, and how prepared she is to take it on. Shannon openly discusses the difficulties caused by Christian Nationalism and unequal treatment of different belief traditions, emphasizing the vital role that faith-based alliances play in uplifting underrepresented voices and fending off political pressure. Shannon’s call to “know your neighbor” is an invaluable reminder that deep connections can still thrive even in a time of seemingly unbridgeable division. Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Amy Spitalnick, CEO of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs (JCPA), is back on The State of Belief. In this episode, Amy and host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush dig into the immediacy of antisemitism, democracy, and how our communities are connected.  Among the important topics they cover: Why Jewish safety and democracy are intertwined How genuine concerns about antisemitism are being hijacked to undermine civil liberties and democratic institutions How to respond during this critical moment  Our voices are wonderful tools for change, and we must never stop using them to counteract hate and extremism in all its forms. Please listen to this episode and reflect on these essential themes. What Amy has to say is not just applicable to the Jewish community but to everyone interested in democracy, justice, and the welfare of humanity. Please share this episode with one person who would enjoy hearing this conversation, and thank you for listening! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices