The Tarot Podcast with T. Susan Chang

The Rider Waite Smith and Thoth tarot decks may be the most recognized decks in the English-speaking world. But it is the Tarot de Marseille, known in tarot circles as the TdM, that has the furthest intercontinental reach and the longest history. Even today, it is the deck most widely used in European countries. This week, tarot historian and independent scholar Sherryl Smith takes us on a journey through the origins and idiosyncrasies of the TdM.  Next week, we’ll have a discussion of how to actually use the TdM! which intimidates many readers with its cryptic woodcut imagery and non-scenic pips. Be sure to listen through to the end of the episode for a demonstration reading with the TdM! Bonus TdM readings can be found on our Patreon website (www.patreon.com/thetarotpodcast), and we will have another set of readings to go with next week’s episode. If you’d like to submit a question for a future reading on the Tarot Podcast, sign up as a paid member! (https://patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). You’ll find out when readings are happening on Patreon or Discord and be able to share your question then! All images for this episode can be viewed on Patreon, or on the YouTube version of the show. Sherryl Smith’s tarot journey began over 50 years ago when she saw David Palladini’s Aquarian deck in a bookstore and instantly recognized an important turning point in her life. She has been studying the history of tarot and reading with historic decks for 25 years.  Her website Tarot-Heritage.com tells the story of tarot’s 600-year history. The Cartomancy section of the website has everything you need to get started reading with historic decks like the Tarot de Marseille Links for this episode: Sherryl’s website: https://tarot-heritage.com Purchase historic decks at Tarot Arts https://tarotarts.com/collections/tarot-decks-and-kits/realm_historic-decks? Episode 20: What is the Rider Waite Smith Tarot? with Mary K. Greer https://youtu.be/qOcUbM9t8eo Episode 21: What is the Thoth Tarot? with Lon Milo DuQuette https://youtu.be/njY_oyfgb7g Video version of the episode:   Sherryl’s TdM Resources: Books Yoav Ben Dov. The Marseille Tarot Revealed: A Complete Guide to Symbolism, Meanings and Methods. (Llewellyn, 2017) https://www.amazon.com/Marseille-Tarot-Revealed-Complete-Symbolism/dp/0738752282 Carrie Spider. Tarot de Marseille: Reading the Cards as They Were Used. Self-published 2026. https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Marseille-Reading-Cards-They/dp/B0GBT7SYD4 Wayne Limberger. Pips, Courts and Trumps: A Simple Guide to the Tarot de Marseille. Ebook available at Lulu.com. https://www.lulu.com/shop/wayne-limberger/pips-courts-and-trumps-a-short-simple-guide-to-the-tarot-de-marseille/ebook/product-5mm5rp.html   Where to purchase decks in the US US Games: https://www.usgamesinc.com/?target=search&mode=search&substring=marseille&including=all CBD Tarot de Marseille. Produced by Yoav Ben Dov, author of the book listed above. Tarot Arnoux & Amphoux 1801, produced by the French card maker Yves Reynaud listed below. Tarot de Marseille Convos Llewellyn.com: https://www.llewellyn.com/browse_category.php?start=0&sort_by=&product_category_id=232 Universal Tarot de Marseille Tarot de Marseille Tarot de Marseille Mini Artisan Tarot https://artisantarot.com/ Unique and whimsical decks: Marseille Cat Tarot Squid Cake Marseille The Rider-Marseille Tarot Deck Where to purchase decks in Europe https://tarot-de-marseille-heritage.com/ Yves Reynaud of Marseille makes facsimiles of historic Tarot de Marseille decks he finds in museums. The production quality and price are designed for the average card reader. https://www.facebook.com/Marco.C.Benedetti.Tarot Marco Benedetti of Rome has a Facebook page—no website. Handcrafted decks at reasonable prices. Pierre Madenié 1709 is a favorite.     Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!)

In this week’s Tarot Podcast episode, we welcome back goth tarot queen Laetitia Barbier to boldly engage! in a special kind of divination devised by Laetitia herself: ARTOMANCY!.  Together, Laeti and I do an on-the-spot artomancy reading on a listener-submitted question. If the technique intrigues you, you can book your own custom artomancy reading with Laetitia at her website! (Links below).   For our bonus content this week, check out my final conversation with Laetitia , on the question of whether tarot art is inherently magical. You can check that out by becoming a paid Patreon member, thereby unlocking all our bonus content, the chance to submit a question when we have guest readings, and countless other perks! https://patreon.com/thetarotpodcast/membership.   French-born Laetitia Barbier is an independent scholar, as well as a professional tarot reader and teacher. She earned a Bachelor's Degree in Art History from La Sorbonne University Paris in 2009. Laetitia has worked with Morbid Anatomy from 2012 to 2024 as a programming director, head librarian, and occasional curator. Her book Tarot and Divination Cards: A Visual Archive was published in 2021 with a foreword by Rachel Pollack. Along with her friend Lou Benesch, she’s the co-creator of the Camena Tarot. As a writer and scholar, she has the privilege of collaborating with the iconic French maître-cartier Grimaud, notably on the exquisite re-release of their 1930s Tarot de Marseille and Belline Oracle. Laetitia has lectured, taught and read cards for various cultural institutions, such as Greenwood Cemetery, Artyard,  Fotografiska NY, the College of Psychic Studies in London or the New York Public Library. She lives in Brooklyn, New York.   Book your own custom Artomancy session! https://www.laetitiacartomancy.com/tarot-sessions/p/artomancy-using-art-as-a-mantic-tool-special-reading-session Explore Laetitia’s events, readings, and classes: https://laetitiacartomancy.com Join Laetitia’s Patreon community https://www.laetitiacartomancy.com/patreon     __________________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!)

In this week’s Try This at Home! segment, host T. Susan shares a powerful technique for reliably getting answers from your cards. Learn it in 5 seconds, apply it in 5 minutes, and enjoy the benefits for the rest of your life as a tarot reader! Give ‘priming the pump’ a try the next time you read for yourself or someone else—and let me know how it worked for you! Write to me on the Tarot Podcast Discord server or dm me on Patreon if you’re a Patreon member. Or, you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. . Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!)

Not everyone, believe it or not, falls in love with the cards at first sight! In fact, many of us experience a light shudder, even a hint of fear! upon our first encounter with tarot. What’s up with that? What’s the reasoning behind tarot-phobia? My wise and witty editor, Barbara Moore, shares her thoughts on the subject in this week’s episode. Barbara Moore (Saint Paul, MN) has been in love with tarot for over thirty-five years. She has shuffled her cards and taught tarot all over the world. Now she embraces her Hermit self by writing books and creating decks. Her Steampunk Tarot, Good Fortune Tarot, and Trick or Treat Tarot are among her favorites. Links for this episode: Barbara’s website: https://barbaramooretarot.weebly.com/ Barbara’s author page at Llewellyn: https://www.llewellyn.com/author.php?author_id=3396 …and just a few of Barbara’s many works: The Good Fortune Tarot (2024): https://www.llewellyn.com/product.php?ean=9780738772639 The Steampunk Tarot (2012): https://www.llewellyn.com/product.php?ean=9780738726380 Tarot for Beginners (2010) https://www.llewellyn.com/product.php?ean=9780738719559  _____________________________    Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!)  

Multimedia artist Kat Black joins me to share the backstory of a tarot community favorite, the Golden Tarot (first published in 2003). Long before today’s indie deck culture existed, fans launched the Golden Tarot into print, making its blend of International Gothic style and readable scenic minors an instant favorite for readers and collectors alike. As always, there’s a patron reading! using the deck, at the end of the episode. We also have a few more readings, offered as Patreon bonus content for the week.  If you’d like to submit a question for a reading on the Tarot Podcast, sign up as a paid member! (https://patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). You’ll find out when readings are happening on Patreon or Discord and be able to share your question then! Kat Black has been an artist and performer for over twenty years using a wide variety of media. She exhibited as a painter before moving into digital art forms. Her main art forms are currently video projection, interactive installation and digital collage. Her first commercial tarot deck, Golden Tarot, was released in 2004 using early graphics software to collage together elements of European artwork from the International Gothic era. Kat was born and currently resides in Australia, although she has also lived in the US and the UK. In collaboration with her partner Jasper Cook, she creates video projection and public art as VJzoo.   Links for this episode: The Golden Tarot website: https://www.goldentarot.com Purchase the Golden Tarot from U.S. Games https://www.usgamesinc.com/golden_tarot.html Purchase the Touchstone Tarot from U.S. Games https://www.usgamesinc.com/touchstone-tarot.html Kat’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@KatBlackTarot Simone Martini’s Christ Discovered in the Temple, appearing in the Golden Tarot’s 4 of Cups: https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/artifact/christ-discovered-temple Kat’s professional website: https://vjzoo.com YouTube version of the episode (where you can see images of the cards): https://youtu.be/Na5yQh58sWo _________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!)

Tarot IRL is back! in a slightly more streamlined format. (You can still read the full text of examples in the video version in YouTube, if you wish.) In this episode, we examine how the gritty, resolute 9 of Wands shows up in the lives of ordinary folks. If it could speak, this card would say, What doesn’t kill me makes me stronger! Our wounded warrior, the Lord of Strength, has seen his share. Your stories showcase his resilience...and his scars. When you draw the 9 of Wands, look out for the following themes: Burnout Recovery from illness Long drives Resilience/fixing things Trees/Forests Heat Miscellaneous synchronistic phenomena! For decan basics and examples, see episode 39 (Decan Basics) and 40 (Decan Deep Dive) with Mary Greer. _______________________________________ ✨ Take the Tarot IRL poll! Vote on which IRL cards – Wands courts or numeric Cups – should come after the 10 of Wands!:  ✨To share your stories about the 10 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment - please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. More resources: 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot (Amazon link if you must!) Shop for cool stuff made by your host!  Dreaming the Decans webinar (yours free with Soothsayer-level membership!) Become a Tarot Podcast member! Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! https://tsusanchang.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

This week my psychic friend, the author Mat Auryn, returns to the show to talk about a perennially interesting topic for tarot readers, which is: the difference between intuition and projection. When you’re doing a reading for someone else, how do you know if what you’re interpreting is true, useful information, or just something from your own bag of tricks? You might want to revisit Episode 26, where Mat and I talked about whether you need to be psychic to read tarot. And we also have some fantastic bonus content this week you’ll want to check out—the video from the last part of my conversation with Mat, where we discuss psychic hygiene and how to keep yourself clean and clear when you’re exposing yourself to other people’s psychic energies. That’s at https://patreon.com/thetarotpodcast. One quick note: I apologize for my side of the audio. My software accessed the wrong mic when we were recording  and I’ve tried to clean it up some. But it’s not quite the same quality you’re used to. Mat, however, sounds great!   Mat Auryn is an influential author and teacher in occultism and witchcraft. His books Psychic Witch, Mastering Magick, and The Psychic Art of Tarot offer practical insights into psychic and magickal practices. He also co-authored Pisces Witch with Ivo Dominguez, Jr. Mat’s work draws from various spiritual and magickal traditions he’s studied and trained in, aiming to synthesize them in accessible and practical ways. Beyond writing, Mat worked for many years as a professional psychic and tarot reader in Salem, Massachusetts, as well as his own private practice. He is on the faculty at the Omega Institute in Rhinebeck, NY, and co-hosts THE CIRCLE IS podCAST with actress Rachel True. Residing in California’s Bay Area, he co-owns Datura Trading Co. and Modern Witch University. You can find out more information about Mat on his website at www.Auryn.com   Check out Episode 26: Do I Need to be Psychic to Read Tarot? Read Mat’s best-selling Psychic Witch Check out The Psychic Art of Tarot THE CIRCLE IS podCAST with Mat Auryn & Rachel True ______________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!)

The grand finale! of our series on decans + tarot, just in time for Spring Equinox on March 20th. Here are my answers to ALL your burning questions: What is a decan walk? Why do we do them? And – most important of all: How do I start my own? Includes loads of examples from current practitioners of the modern decan walk – including your host! Let me know how you’re walking this year! (Write me via the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com).   Must-have Decan Resources! 2026-27 decan ingress chart Pick up the Tarot Podcast official Decan Notebook! Join the Tarot Podcast as a Soothsayer-level patron for my “Dreaming the Decans” webinar and a free decan notebook on your 1-month anniversary! Patreon bonus post on decanic dignity for paid Patreon members 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot (Amazon link if you must!) Tarot Correspondences: Ancient Secrets for Everyday Readers  Dreaming the Decans book (also in paperback) Dreaming the Decans webinar (yours free with Soothsayer-level membership!) End credits music: “Time Trades,” by Jeffrey Lewis

It’s week 2 of our three-week series on decans!  Mary Greer and I are back to explore the ins and outs of decanic influence on four specific cards: the 4 of Cups, the 5 of Wands, the 6 of Swords, and the 9 of Pentacles. Join us as we unpack the Lords of Luxury, Strife, Science, and Gain—revealing their astrological, Kabbalistic, elemental, and numerological layers. This week, we also have a Patreon bonus video where Mary and I discuss decanic dignity! and how it stacks up in a few special cards. For access, you can sign up at patreon.com/thetarotpodcast. If you’d like to look closer at the visuals and graphics we discuss in the episode, there are three ways to do that: the episode page on Podbean, our podcast-hosting service The episode page on Patreon the video version on YouTube Also: stay tuned for next week’s solo show, whose topic will be <drumroll>… How to Do a Decan Walk!   Mary K. Greer is an independent scholar, writer, teacher, and professional tarot consultant, known for her innovative teaching techniques. With over 56 years tarot experience, she is the author of 12 books on tarot and on magic, has a master’s degree in English literature, and taught tarot in colleges and universities for 12 years. If you’d like to study with Mary in-person, you can register for her yearly Omega Institute workshops in July: Tarot Magic: July 17-19, a weekend with Barbara Moore, Nancy Antenucci, Charles Harrington, and Mary. https://www.eomega.org/workshops/tarot-magic Wisdom of the Tarot - a July 19-24 five-day intensive with Mary, deck creator Ellen Lorenzi-Prince, and Carolyn Cushing.  https://www.eomega.org/workshops/wisdom-of-the-tarot Also relevant to this episode: Pick up the Tarot Podcast Official Decan Notebook! Join the Tarot Podcast as a Soothsayer-level patron for my “dreaming the Decans” webinar and a free decan notebook on your 1-month anniversary! 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot  (Amazon link if you must!) Tarot for Your Self: A Workbook for the Inward Journey Tarot Correspondences: Ancient Secrets for Everyday Readers  4 Stories: An Elemental Approach to the Tarot (2025) (Amazon link if you must!) patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Find trusted tarot readers and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class  (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

This episode is the first of a three-part series on decans, as we count down to the spring equinox.  The legendary Mary K. Greer is in the house! for an overview conversation on the astrological structure of decans, and how they matter for tarot.    In next week’s episode, Mary and I will look specifically at four cards and their relationship with the decans. The third episode in this series, right before the equinox, will be a solo show on decan walks: what they are, and my take on how to do one. The graphics we refer to in this episode are included below, if you scroll past the show notes, and are also available on Patreon. If you prefer, you can also head on over to YouTube, for the fully illustrated visual version of the show. Mary K. Greer is an independent scholar, writer, teacher, and professional tarot consultant, known for her innovative teaching techniques. With over 56 years tarot experience, she is the author of 12 books on tarot and on magic, has a master’s degree in English literature, and taught tarot in colleges and universities for 12 years. Her 1984 book Tarot for Your Self revolutionized the practice of tarot, being the first book to both describe how to read for oneself, and use tarot as a self-help, personal development, and creativity tool. As an author and teacher she emphasizes breaking all the rules regarding methods of learning and using the tarot to find what truly works for you. As a tarot reader, she thinks of herself as a ‘midwife of the soul,’ favoring techniques that are interactive, transformational and empowering.  If you’d like to study with Mary in-person, you can register for her yearly Omega Institute workshops in July: • Tarot Magic: July 17-19, a weekend with Barbara Moore, Nancy Antenucci, Charles Harrington, and Mary Greer. https://www.eomega.org/workshops/tarot-magic • Wisdom of the Tarot - a July 19-24 five-day intensive with Mary Greer, deck creator Ellen Lorenzi-Prince, and Carolyn Cushing, who carries on the tarot teachings of Rachel Pollack. (link to come, or contact eomega.org for further info.) Mentioned in this episode: 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot (Amazon link if you must!) Tarot for Your Self: A Workbook for the Inward Journey Tarot Correspondences: Ancient Secrets for Everyday Readers  Fortune’s Wheelhouse esoteric tarot podcast with Mel Meleen and Susie Chang. ________________________________________ • Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast • Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista • Find trusted tarot readers and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com • Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book   and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊 You can view the graphics for this episode on Podbean, or on Patreon.    

The fabulous Theresa Reed is back on the show! to talk about how your cards can help you in a crisis. Tarot is a matchless resource for those moments of acute agony that arrive uninvited in our lives; even when you feel you’re at rock-bottom, the cards can help you feel seen and chart a course to a place of more ease and stability. If you’re in need of a crisis tarot reading from someone other than yourself, you can find a kind, trustworthy, reputable diviner on the Tarot Podcast’s list of recommended readers. Theresa Reed (aka “The Tarot Lady”) has been a Tarot card reader and astrologer for 40 years. She’s the author of multiple best-selling and award-winning books, including The Tarot Coloring Book, Astrology For Real Life, and The Cards You’re Dealt. She’s a featured writer for The Old Farmer’s Almanac, where she writes about moon phases, zodiac elements, astrocartography, and more. You can find her at https://thetarotlady.com and on Instagram as @thetarotlady.  Mentioned in this episode: The Cards You’re Dealt: How to Deal When Life Gets Real The World’s Simplest Problem-Solution Spread (ep. 09 of The Tarot Podcast)   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

Tarot cards are GIANT compared to regular playing cards.  How the heck do you shuffle them?! This week, the Tarot Podcast has a quick explainer episode for all your shuffling needs. If you enjoyed this show and would like loads more tips on how to read tarot, check out my book, The Living Tarot, available wherever books are sold.  Or, consider The Living Tarot online class! (discount for class available if you purchase the book – just email me.) What are your shuffling rituals—and how did you come up with them? Write to me on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com.   Mentioned in this episode: YouTube version of the episode (so you can watch the shuffling videos!) Episode 25: Reversed Cards Benebell Wen’s DIY fanning powder video   For further exploration... Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

The Tarot Podcast has TWO different interviews! with two different deck creators this week. Here in Episode 36, we chat with Robert Place, the creator of the best-selling Alchemical Tarot. Bob drew the Alchemical Tarot in the style of 17th century alchemical engravings, and it became an instant favorite in the tarot community on publication in 1995. Along with Bob’s books, this deck is a crash course in Western esotericism, and we had a lot of fun talking about the wondrous synchronicities that accompanied his creation of this deck. On Patreon, we have a written interview with Catrin Welz-Stein, the creator of the Tarot of Mystical Moments, a stunning and surreal woman-centered deck. At the end, there’s a one-card reading from me. You can check it out by visiting  patreon.com/thetarotpodcast and signing up to support the show. (Thank you!) Featured in the show art this week: The King of Coins, 5 of Wands and Lady of Cups (equivalent to the Page of Cups in RWS-based decks) from the Alchemical Tarot. Robert M. Place is the designer and illustrator of over twenty Tarot and oracle decks: including the internationally acclaimed and award-winning Alchemical Tarot, The Angels Tarot, The Marziano Tarot, the award-winning The Tarot of the Saints, The Buddha Tarot, The Vampire Tarot, The Tarot of the Sevenfold Mystery, The Tarot of the Alchemical Magnum Opus, The Alchemical Tarot of Marseille, The Hermes Playing Card Oracle, An Ukiyo-e Lenormand (based on Japanese culture), The Raziel Tarot and The Burning Serpent Oracle (for both of which he collaborated with Tarot diva Rachel Pollack). His newest work, The First Occult Tarot, is a deck and book based on the descriptions written in 1781 by the Comte de Mellet, the first occult author to describe a Tarot deck. He is the author of The Tarot: History, Symbolism, and Divination, which Booklist has said, “may be the best book ever written on that deck of cards decorated with mysterious images called the Tarot.” He is the author of Astrology and Divination, Magic and Alchemy, Shamanism, Alchemy and the Tarot, and The Tarot, Magic, Alchemy, Hermeticism, and Neoplatonism.   Pick up a copy of the Alchemical Tarot Check out Bob’s website The Tarot: History, Symbolism, and Divination [book] The Tarot, Magic, Alchemy, Hermeticism, and Neoplatonism [book] ________________________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! Shop for cool stuff made by your host! Watch the episode on YouTube!   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

Like a spring-loaded arrow, the 8 of Wands speeds through the world’s networks and pathways to land at your doorstep! The fast-talking (and morally ambiguous) 8 of Wands is known also as the Lord of Swiftness; when you draw it, look out for the following themes: Mail/packages Travel (esp. by air)/ being ready to go SURPRISE! Storms/electricity Acceleration/going viral Bright ideas/news Mercurial phenomena For my brief intro to decans, see episode 06: https://youtu.be/Z3cAUavJBjQ To share your stories about the 9 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment - please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Shop for 8 of Wands talisman tags and keychains! (& other cool stuff made by your host!)  Grab your copy of 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot! Become a Tarot Podcast member!  Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

As tarot readers, we specialize in divination—but what about magic?  Magic and divination are two sides of the same coin—but in this week’s episode we bring them together. How we can use the symbolic language of tarot to create a magic spell? Spoiler alert: it’s easier than you think. My guest is Judika Illes, who has written so many books devoted to magic spells, spirits, and witchcraft. My favorite is the best-selling Encyclopedia of 5000 Spells, which is off my bookshelf more often than it’s on it, that’s how much I use it. Judika is also a teacher, a reader, an editor, and a practitioner of the very arts she writes about. So gather up your witchy herbs, give your cards a shuffle, and settle in as we search for answers to the question: Can I Use Tarot in a Magic Spell? Judika Illes is a lifelong lover, student, and practitioner of the magical arts. She is the author of numerous books devoted to magic spells, spirits, witchcraft, and saints, including the best-sellers Encyclopedia of 5000 Spells and Encyclopedia of Spirits, as well as the creator of two card decks: Magic Spells Oracle and Protection Spells. Her other books include Pure Magic: A Complete Course in Spellcasting, Encyclopedia of Witchcraft, Witches: A Compendium, and Daily Magic, a perpetual calendar of spells, rituals, and feasts. A certified aromatherapist, Judika has been a professional tarot card reader since 1988.  She teaches about spell-casting and other topics in the US and internationally, live and virtually. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AuthorJudikaIlles Instagram: @judikailles Books mentioned in the episode: Encyclopedia of 5000 Spells Pure Magic _________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com

The Motherpeace Tarot (familiarly known as “you know, the round deck” in the tarot community) is a foundational document of the modern tarot era. First self-published in 1981, the Motherpeace revolutionized the world of tarot decks. Its creators, Vicki Noble and Karen Vogel, set out to dismantle the patriarchal underpinnings of traditional tarot with cards that honored indigenous, pre-historic, and matriarchal cultures. In today’s conversation, Motherpeace’s creators share a glimpse of the psychic foment of 1970’s Berkeley, California. They tell the story of how two feminist academics found the Goddess, and sought to express and uphold her presence by changing the practice of divination from the ground up. In the reading we did at the end of the show, we drew the "Shaman of Wands" (equivalent to the King of Wands in Rider Waite Smith-type decks). Here is the image, for your reference.   Pick up a copy of the Motherpeace Tarot:  motherpeace.com   ________________________________________________   Become a Tarot Podcast member! com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊      😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊 Vicki Noble is a feminist healer and wisdom teacher, co-creator of Motherpeace and author of numerous books, including Shakti Woman and The Double Goddess. For decades she has traveled and taught internationally; her books are translated and published in various languages. Retired from teaching as a graduate professor in two Women’s Spirituality Masters Programs in California, she teaches regularly in Europe. At home she works as a professional astrologer and healer, adapting Tibetan Buddhist Dakini practices for her Goddess students and holding private intensives in Santa Cruz, California. Karen Vogel, co-creator of Motherpeace, is widely known as as a tarot reader, teacher and writer as well as an extraordinary artist. She is the author of The Motherpeace Tarot Guidebook (1995), the novel Coyote Tails (2007), and the essays “Love of the Goddess” (Foremothers of the Womens Spirituality Movement ed. Miriam Robbins Dexter and Vicki Noble 2015) and “Female Shamanism, Goddess Cultures, and Psychedelics” (ReVision, winter 2003). The worldwide success of the Motherpeace Deck (currently over 500,000 in print) has afforded her the time to develop as an artist and sculptor of wood and stone as well as continue her exploration of the intermountain and far west. She has a degree in anthropology and a background in women’s studies, art and shamanism.    

In this episode, we examine how the 7 of Wands shows up in the lives of regular folks—like you and me. The 7 of Wands explodes onto the scene with the individualistic quest energy we will come to associate with Sevens. Challenging and courageous, the 7 of Wands is known as the Lord of Valor. When you draw it, look out for the following themes: Courage/Standing Up for Yourself Perseverance Exertion/Exercise Hardship/Fighting Horses! or Going places Inspiration Literal 7’s/Counting to 7 For my brief intro to decans, see episode 06: 2 of Wands + intro to decans. To share your stories about the 8 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment - please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page.  ________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!)

In this episode, Deborah Stewart and Joseph Lee  from This Jungian Life return to the Tarot Podcast to talk about the commonly misunderstood Jungian concept of the archetype.  What are they? and what do  they have to do with tarot—if anything?  Thinking about archetypes is notoriously tricky, but your intrepid hosts give it their best shot, peering into the depths  of depth psychology…and hunting for a glimpse of the cards. Deborah Stewart is a Jungian analyst, Gestalt therapist, and Licensed Clinical Social Worker who migrates between Cape Cod and Sarasota, Florida. She is a member of the Philadelphia Association of Jungian Analysts and the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts. She also is a graduate of the Westchester Institute for Training in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis. Joseph R. Lee is a Jungian Analyst who co-hosts the podcast This Jungian Life and co-created Dream School, an online program that teaches dream interpretation. He lectures widely on the Western Mystery Tradition and Hermetic Qabalah. His teaching and clinical work are informed by almost five decades of research and practice with Tarot and other symbolic systems. This Jungian Life [podcast]: Three Jungian analysts discuss myth, mental health and life Dream School: An online self-paced course in dream interpretation Dream Wise: Unlocking the Meaning of Your Dreams[book] Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

Want a super-simple spread that will tell you one unexpected and interesting thing! about your 2026? Well, here you go!  Forget about the Celtic Cross, forget about the “Wheel of the Year”—with just two cards, tarot can offer you a relevant and specific scene from the year ahead, tailored just for you. If you’ve enjoyed this spread and would like to learn how to design your own simple spreads, check out my book, The Living Tarot, available wherever books are sold.  Or, consider The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book – just message me.) If you try the New Year’s Spread, let me know how it works out! Write to me on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. Here’s the 2026 Decan Reference Chart for you to consult when you do this spread!   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

Indie tarot artist Jamie Sawyer has created many decks, of which my favorite is today’s showcase: the Out of Hand Tarot.  Drawn (mostly) from a first-person perspective and packed with sly references to the Rider Waite Smith tarot, Out of Hand invites you to step into the cards and experience those familiar archetypal presences in a 21st-century setting. Jamie’s decks have limited print runs and sell out quickly, but she has made this one available again through the modern magic of print-on-demand! And be sure to check out this week’s video bonus content for patrons, where you can watch a time-lapse video of one of Jamie’s cards evolving from start to finish: patreon.com/thetarotpodcast. Jamie Sawyer is an artist who enjoys exploring the many ways that creativity weaves through the tapestry of life. From a career in tattooing that has spanned over 2 decades to learning the Tarot and its lessons via illustrating the art and archetypes, Jamie has developed a unique artistic style. A self-proclaimed “creatrix with a busy mind and a lack of vices,” Jamie has self-published over 10 divination decks (including tarot, oracle and Lenormand). She also is known for her miniature handmade heirloom resin and wood “Tarot Tiles,” a tactile way to experience some of her creations. Her preferred method of connecting with the Tarot is through layered readings using the many creative divination tools she makes.   Where to find Jamie: Explore Jamie’s website! https://www.jamiesawyer336.com Buy decks at Jamie’s print-on-demand shop! https://www.makeplayingcards.com/sell/jamiesawyer336 Support Jamie on Patreon! https://www.creativedivination.com IG: @jamiesawyer336 YouTube: @Jamiesawyer336 Substack: https://jamiesawyer.substack.com   ✯ MORE TAROT GIFT IDEAS for the holidays! ✯ ✯ TSC’s Etsy shop ✯  etsy.com/shop/tarotista  Arcana Cases elemental and zodiacal perfumes custom perfumes based on your sun, moon, and rising! 8 of Wands talisman key chains and luggage tags 9 of Swords blankets Tarot Podcast merch! ✯ Gift certificates for readings and classes ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/shop ✯ The Tarot Podcast memberships & gift memberships ✯ www.patreon.com/thetarotpodcast ✯ The Living Tarot Online Class ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/class ✯ Readings with TSC ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/readings ✯ TSC books ✯ Dreaming the Decans (hc/pb): www.lulu.com/shop/t-susan-chang/dreaming-the-decans/hardcover/product-v8kqed2.html 36 Secrets (hc/pb): https://www.lulu.com/shop/t-susan-chang/36-secrets/paperback/product-zzrd79 The Living Tarot: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Tarot-Connecting-Everyday-Readings/dp/0738772259 Tarot Correspondences: https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Correspondences-Ancient-Secrets-Everyday/dp/0738755125 Tarot Deciphered: https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Deciphered-Decoding-Esoteric-Symbolism/dp/0738764477 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In today’s episode, we plunge into the world of the image with artomancer Laetitia Barbier!  When we enter into a tarot reading, we look at the pictures on the cards in a particular way. And when we enter a gallery or museum, we look at the paintings hanging on the walls in another way. How are these two ways of looking different? Do they need to be? Can looking at art teach you to read tarot? Or to put it the other way: Can reading tarot teach you to look at art?  Could museums really be portals to a spirit dimension, in disguise?!  So. Many. Questions! Laetitia has long haunted the unfathomable intersection of art and magic, so who better to ask? Our conversation opened many doors for me – and I look forward to hearing what you think.   French-born Laetitia Barbier is an independent scholar, as well as a professional tarot reader and teacher. She earned a Bachelor's Degree in Art History from La Sorbonne University Paris in 2009. Laetitia has worked with Morbid Anatomy from 2012 to 2024 as a programming director, head librarian, and occasional curator. Her book Tarot and Divination Cards: A Visual Archive was published in 2021 with a foreword by Rachel Pollack. Along with her friend Lou Benesch, she’s the co-creator the Camena Tarot. As a writer and scholar, she has the privilege of collaborating with the iconic French maître-cartier Grimaud, notably on the exquisite re-release of their 1930s Tarot de Marseille and Belline Oracle. Laetitia has lectured, taught and read cards for various cultural institutions, such as Greenwood Cemetery, Artyard,  Fotografiska NY, the College of Psychic Studies in London or the New York Public Library. She lives in Brooklyn, New York. Check out Tarot and Divination Cards: A Visual Archive https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Divination-Cards-Visual-Archive/dp/1419756370 Explore Laetitia’s events, readings, and classes: https://laetitiacartomancy.com Join Laetitia’s Patreon community https://www.laetitiacartomancy.com/patreon ✯ TAROT GIFT IDEAS for the holidays! ✯ ✯ TSC’s Etsy shop ✯  https://etsy.com/shop/tarotista  Arcana Cases elemental and zodiacal perfumes custom perfumes based on your sun, moon, and rising! 8 of Wands talisman key chains and luggage tags 9 of Swords blankets Tarot Podcast merch! ✯ Gift certificates for readings and classes ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/shop ✯ The Tarot Podcast memberships and gift memberships ✯ www.patreon.com/thetarotpodcast ✯ The Living Tarot Online Class ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/class ✯ Readings with TSC ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/readings ✯ TSC books ✯ Dreaming the Decans (hc/pb): www.lulu.com/shop/t-susan-chang/dreaming-the-decans/hardcover/product-v8kqed2.html 36 Secrets (hc/pb): https://www.lulu.com/shop/t-susan-chang/36-secrets/paperback/product-zzrd79 The Living Tarot: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Tarot-Connecting-Everyday-Readings/dp/0738772259 Tarot Correspondences: https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Correspondences-Ancient-Secrets-Everyday/dp/0738755125 Tarot Deciphered: https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Deciphered-Decoding-Esoteric-Symbolism/dp/0738764477 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this episode, we examine how the 6 of Wands shows up in the lives of ordinary humans like you and me. With our first 6, the suit of Wands finds its purpose in life and starts to shine with the glow of empowerment! which is why it’s called the Lord of Victory.  When you draw it, look out for the following themes: Pride/Accomplishments Favorable Health Outcomes Good News/Generous Acts Fame/Recognition/Winning Horses! or Going places Literal/Visual Rhymes To share your stories about the 7 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment - please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. ✯✯✯ TAROT GIFT IDEAS for the holidays! ✯✯✯ ✯ TSC’s Etsy shop ✯  etsy.com/shop/tarotista  Arcana Cases elemental and zodiacal perfumes custom perfumes based on your sun, moon, and rising! 8 of Wands talisman key chains and luggage tags 9 of Swords blankets Tarot Podcast merch! ✯ Gift certificates for readings and classes ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/shop ✯ The Tarot Podcast memberships and gift memberships ✯ patreon.com/thetarotpodcast ✯ The Living Tarot online class ✯ tsusanchang.com/class ✯ readings with TSC ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/readings ✯ TSC books ✯ Dreaming the Decans (hc/pb): www.lulu.com/shop/t-susan-chang/dreaming-the-decans/hardcover/product-v8kqed2.html 36 Secrets (hc/pb): https://www.lulu.com/shop/t-susan-chang/36-secrets/paperback/product-zzrd79 The Living Tarot: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Tarot-Connecting-Everyday-Readings/dp/0738772259 Tarot Correspondences: https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Correspondences-Ancient-Secrets-Everyday/dp/0738755125 Tarot Deciphered: https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Deciphered-Decoding-Esoteric-Symbolism/dp/0738764477

It’s in everybody’s stereotype of the fortune-teller – the dimly lit boudoir, the crystal ball, the embroidered cushions, and on the storefront, a great big sign that says, “PSYCHIC.” But do you really need to be psychic to read the cards? And what does it mean to be psychic, anyway? In this week’s episode, we look for answers with one of today’s leading voices in all things psychic: Mat Auryn, author of Psychic Witch, The Psychic Art of Tarot and other titles. For many years, Mat read tarot on what you’d have to call the frontline of psychic engagement: Salem, Massachusetts in the month of October. In our conversation, you’ll learn a bit about what it’s like to be a psychic practitioner—and how you can access your own special abilities to become a better tarot reader.   Mat Auryn is an influential author and teacher in occultism and witchcraft. His books Psychic Witch, Mastering Magick, and The Psychic Art of Tarot offer practical insights into psychic and magickal practices. He also co-authored Pisces Witch with Ivo Dominguez, Jr. Mat’s work draws from various spiritual and magickal traditions he’s studied and trained in, aiming to synthesize them in accessible and practical ways. Beyond writing, Mat worked for many years as a professional psychic and tarot reader in Salem, Massachusetts, as well as his own private practice. He is on the faculty at the Omega Institute in Rhinebeck, NY, and co-hosts THE CIRCLE IS podCAST with actress Rachel True. Residing in California’s Bay Area, he co-owns Datura Trading Co. and Modern Witch University. You can find out more information about Mat on his website at www.Auryn.com Read Mat’s best-selling Psychic Witch Check out The Psychic Art of Tarot THE CIRCLE IS podCAST   ✯✯✯ TAROT GIFT IDEAS for the holidays! ✯✯✯  ✯ TSC’s Etsy shop ✯  www.etsy.com/shop/tarotista  Arcana Cases elemental and zodiacal perfumes custom perfumes based on your sun, moon, and rising! 8 of Wands talisman key chains and luggage tags 9 of Swords blankets Tarot Podcast merch! ✯ Gift certificates for readings and classes ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/shop ✯ The Tarot Podcast memberships and gift memberships ✯ www.patreon.com/thetarotpodcast ✯ The Living Tarot online class ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/class ✯ readings with TSC ✯ www.tsusanchang.com/readings ✯ TSC books ✯ Dreaming the Decans (hc/pb): www.lulu.com/shop/t-susan-chang/dreaming-the-decans/hardcover/product-v8kqed2.html 36 Secrets (hc/pb): https://www.lulu.com/shop/t-susan-chang/36-secrets/paperback/product-zzrd79 The Living Tarot: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Tarot-Connecting-Everyday-Readings/dp/0738772259 Tarot Correspondences: https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Correspondences-Ancient-Secrets-Everyday/dp/0738755125 Tarot Deciphered: https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Deciphered-Decoding-Esoteric-Symbolism/dp/0738764477  

“Oh no!  Some of my cards ended up upside down! What does that mean?!” In this week’s Try This at Home! segment, we’re having a look at one of the most common matters of debate among tarot readers: how to interpret reversed cards. There are many schools of thought on how to handle reversals, so I’ve put together a brief guide so you can choose what makes sense to you. If you’ve enjoyed this summary and would love more answers to all your tarot “starter questions,” check out my book, The Living Tarot, available wherever books are sold.  Or, consider The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book – just email me.) And if you already use reversals, I’d love to hear your take on how you interpret them! Write to me on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

Interpreting dreams and interpreting tarot have a lot in common, so in this episode the hosts of This Jungian Life and I join forces to interpret a dream—one that contains actual tarot imagery!  The dream took place in 2020, but it’s not a pandemic dream. It’s personal dream, but also timeless and universal, and a great example of how tarot and dream symbol systems can interact with one another. If you’d like to learn some practical ways of using tarot in dreamwork, be sure to check out our Patreon bonus content this week, where I talk about how you can bring your cards into the dream world and vice versa. Deborah Stewart is a Jungian analyst, Gestalt therapist, and Licensed Clinical Social Worker who migrates between Cape Cod and Sarasota, Florida. She is a member of the Philadelphia Association of Jungian Analysts and the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts. She also is a graduate of the Westchester Institute for Training in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis. She is a member of the podcast This Jungian Life, co-author of Dream Wise, and co-creator of Dream School, a self-paced online course in dream interpretation. Joseph R. Lee is a Jungian Analyst who co-hosts This Jungian Life and co-created Dream School. He lectures widely on the Western Mystery Tradition and Hermetic Qabalah. His teaching and clinical work are informed by almost five decades of research and practice with Tarot and other symbolic systems. This Jungian Life [podcast]: Three Jungian analysts discuss myth, mental health and life Dream School: An online self-paced course in dream interpretation Dream Wise: Unlocking the Meaning of Your Dreams [book] Dreaming the Decans: TSC’s compendium of dream images and decan spells (paper/hardback) _____________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

There is no shortage of spooky, surreal, spine-tingly decks on the shelves of the world’s metaphysical shops: the joyous Santa Muerte Tarot, the Zombie Tarot, the Welcome to Night Vale Tarot and countless others. But in this week’s 5 Questions episode, we spend some time with what is in my opinion one of the great “stick season” decks of all time: the Deviant Moon Tarot. The look of the deck is singular, springing from creator Patrick Valenza’s lifelong relationship with tarot. Deviant Moon marries the grotesque with the sumptuous, the steampunk with the byzantine—you can almost hear a Danny Elfman soundtrack playing in the background when you shuffle the cards. The Deviant Moon’s citizen spirits captured my imagination the first time I saw them, and I bet you’ll feel the same. Patrick Valenza is an American artist and publisher best known for The Deviant Moon Tarot, published by U. S. Games Systems Inc. Through his studio, Deviant Moon Inc., he creates original tarot and oracle decks recognized for their surreal imagery and handcrafted detail. His work blends folklore, symbolism, and dreamlike narratives, earning him a devoted international audience in the world of contemporary tarot art. Pick up a copy of the Deviant Moon deck: Check out the Deviant Moon companion book: Deviant Moon on Instagram Patrick’s Facebook fan page:  ________________________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this episode, we examine how the 5 of Wands shows up in the lives of ordinary humans like you and me. As we progress through the suit of wands, the 5 of Wands heats things up with a restless, roiling, fractious energy that just gets under your skin. When you draw it, look out for the following themes: Emotional strife Striving and challenges Sports/playing around Debates or differences of opinion Counting to 5 Literal and visual equivalents Heat (hot weather and cooking!) To learn a 5 of Wands magic spell you can do at home -  and share your stories about the 6 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment - please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Become a Tarot Podcast member! https://patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast merch & cool stuff made by your host! https://etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! https://thetarotpodcast.com Check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot: https://www.amazon.com/36-Secrets-Decanic-Journey-through/dp/1716325099 Learn your correspondences with Tarot Correspondences! https://www.amazon.com/Tarot-Correspondences-Ancient-Secrets-Everyday/dp/0738755125 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In today’s “Ask an Expert” episode, we bring back the legendary (and hilarious!) Lon Milo DuQuette to explore the Thoth deck—probably the second most influential tarot deck in the English-speaking world. This rather dark, very beautiful deck created by Aleister Crowley and Lady Frieda Harris has had a lasting global influence - especially for those who are magically inclined. While the Thoth deck’s influence on modern tarot iconography may not be as pronounced as the Rider Waite Smith’s, you can absolutely find decks that are based explicitly and exclusively on Thoth. If you’d like to see some examples, you can check out this week’s bonus content on Patreon by becoming a supporting member of the Tarot Podcast community. Author of 20 critically acclaimed books (translated in twelve languages) on Magick and the occult, Lon Milo DuQuette is one of the most respected and entertaining writers and lecturers in the field of the Western Mystery Traditions. He is also gifted singer songwriter and former Epic Records recording artist whose music continues to inspire and provoke. Since 1975 he has served as a national and international governing officer of Ordo Templi Orientis, one of the most influential magical societies of the 20th and 21st centuries. DuQuette hosts a daily show on his Facebook and YouTube channels, and occasionally appears on television, radio, and internet programs as a guest expert on subjects involving the occult. He lives in Sacramento, California with Constance, his high-school sweet-heart and wife of fifty-seven years.   Lon’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/lon.duquette Lon’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@lonmilo Understanding Aleister Crowley’s Thoth Tarot: https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Aleister-Crowleys-Thoth-Tarot/dp/1578632765 The definitive guide to the Thoth Tarot! _________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! https://patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! https://etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! https://thetarotpodcast.com Check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot, my book on the 36 decans and the minor cards. https://www.amazon.com/36-Secrets-Decanic-Journey-through/dp/1716325099 Check out Fortune’s Wheelhouse: My previous tarot podcast, co-hosted with Mel Meleen, comparing esoteric symbolism in the Rider Waite Smith and Thoth decks. https://fortuneswheelhouse.podbean.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In today’s “Ask an Expert” episode, we bring back the one and only Mary K. Greer to answer a very important question for all of us who love the cards, and that is: What is the Rider Waite Smith Tarot? Even if you don’t own a Rider Waite Smith deck, you’ve almost certainly seen one. When you Google any tarot card, it’s likely the first image that will come up in your search is going to be the Rider Waite Smith image. How did the RWS come to dominate the world of tarot? Mary Greer, as always, has the answers. Mary K. Greer is an independent tarot scholar, author and teacher who is known worldwide for her innovative teaching techniques.  She lives in northern California, but you can find her at https://marykgreer.com and on Facebook. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s Try This at Home! segment, we are diving straight to the heart of the most personal subject tarot cards and tarot readers ever see:  relationships.  We’ll explore what we can and can’t find out, what’s a healthy way to go about asking about that crush, and what you can do once you find out. I don’t need cards to tell me that you’re going to be trying the Relationship Spread really soon.  When you do, let me know how it goes! You can write to me on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with exercises like the ones in this episode! with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) Learn your correspondences with Tarot Correspondences! 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

There are countless points of intersection between the art of tarot and the practice of Jungian psychology. In this week’s show we welcome two of the hosts of the podcast This Jungian Life, which is essential listening for anyone who is interested in the psychological dimension of dreams, myths and archetypes, and how they play out in our ordinary lives. Deborah Stewart is a Jungian analyst and Gestalt therapist based in Cape Cod and Sarasota, Florida. Joseph Lee is a Jungian analyst based in Virginia, and he also lectures widely on the Western mystery tradition. Along with their colleague Lisa Marchiano, they’ve been co-hosting This Jungian Life since 2018. Deb and Joseph joined host T. Susan recently to explore several topics where tarot and Jungian psychology meet. In the first of our conversations, we talk about Jung’s concept of synchronicity, and how a tarot reading may—or may not!—be a synchronistic phenomenon.   Deborah Stewart is a Jungian analyst, Gestalt therapist, and Licensed Clinical Social Worker who migrates between Cape Cod and Sarasota, Florida. She is a member of the Philadelphia Association of Jungian Analysts and the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts. She also is a graduate of the Westchester Institute for Training in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis. She is a member of the popular podcast, This Jungian Life, co-author of Dream Wise: Unlocking the Meaning of Your Dreams, and co-creator of Dream School, a self-paced online course in dream interpretation.   Joseph R. Lee is a Jungian Analyst who co-hosts the podcast This Jungian Life and co-created Dream School, an online program that teaches dream interpretation. He lectures widely on the Western Mystery Tradition and Hermetic Qabalah. His teaching and clinical work are informed by almost five decades of research and practice with Tarot and other symbolic systems. This Jungian Life [podcast]: Three Jungian analysts discuss myth, mental health and life Dream School: An online self-paced course in dream interpretation Dream Wise: Unlocking the Meaning of Your Dreams [book] ________________________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

n this week’s 5 Questions episode, we’re speaking with the inimitable Benebell Wen about her Spirit Keeper’s Tarot, which came out in three different editions (the First edition, the Vitruvian edition, and the Revelation editions) between 2018 and 2021. The “SKT” has become an integral part of many readers’ practices, and I thought it would be fascinating to get a closer look at the inner workings of this rich and complex deck and its creator. Although the Spirit Keepers Tarot is currently out of print, it is an open edition, so we can look forward to another printing at some p oint in the future. In the meantime, if you just can’t wait and are up for investing in a durable non-card version, the excellent tarot artist Jamie Sawyer has tarot tiles of the SKT, which she produces as a collaboration with Benebell, In addition to the Spirit Keeper's Tarot, Benebell is the author of three books: Holistic Tarot (2015), The Tao of Craft (2016), and I Ching, The Oracle (2023). She is currently at work on the Grand Etteilla Tarot of Thoth-Hermes.                      benebellwen.com youtube.com/BenebellWen instagram.com/bellwen   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this episode, we examine how the 4 of Wands shows up in the lives of ordinary humans like you and me. The 4 of Wands often gladdens the hearts of those who encounter it, even though its gifts can be fleeting. When you draw it, look out for the following themes: Couples & weddings Birthdays, parties, festivals Temporary structures, safe spaces, refuges Respite and recovery Counting to 4 Venusian things! To share your stories about the 5 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment, please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for astrological perfumes, Tarot Podcast merch & other cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot. 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In our episode on“Will I Ever...?” we confronted the human longing for prediction.  In this companion episode, “Should I...?”, we confront the human longing for advice. Our guest is once again Theresa Reed, aka “The Tarot Lady,” dispenser of advice to countless seekers—and the Old Farmer’s Almanac! Should you ask your cards whether you should do something?  We’ll find out together! Theresa Reed, aka “The Tarot Lady”) has been a Tarot card reader and astrologer for 40 years. She’s the author of multiple best-selling and award-winning books, including The Tarot Coloring Book, Astrology For Real Life, and The Cards You’re Dealt. She’s a featured writer for The Old Farmer’s Almanac, where she writes about moon phases, zodiac elements, astrocartography, and more. You can find her at thetarotlady.com and on Instagram as @thetarotlady. https://thetarotlady.com IG: @thetarotlady Re-listen to Episode 11: “Will I Ever...?” Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s Try This at Home! segment, we explore a life-changing approach to learning the cards: TAROT BACKWARDS. Memorizing meanings won’t make you a tarot reader.  Instead, learn how to see tarot in the world around you so that you come to know the cards by heart. Let me know what amazing connections you make in your own Tarot Backwards practice! — on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Continue your tarot journey with exercises like the ones in this episode! with The Living Tarot book and/or The Living Tarot online class (discount for class available if you purchase the book!) Learn your correspondences with Tarot Correspondences! 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s 5 Questions episode, we’re speaking with Lettie Jane Rennekamp, the creator of the Many Queens Tarot, a stunning, proudly queer, black-and-white deck. It was originally a Kickstarter deck; the mass market version was published by Andrews McMeel at the end of 2024. Lettie Jane is an illustrator and artist based in Portland, Oregon by way of Kentucky. Her illustrations are bold and tender at the same time, depicting motherhood, varying versions of gender expression, community, and nature all together. She has worked in both commercial and gallery spaces, creating everything from murals to wine labels, large cut-out paintings and small watercolors. Website: www.lettiejane.com Instagram: @lettiejanemakes   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this episode, we examine how the 3 of Wands shows up in the lives of actual living, breathing human beings like you and me! The 3 of Wands is a quieter, more cryptic card than its predecessors in the suit. Join me to learn how to unpack its gifts and master its lessons. When you draw it, look for synchronicities in the following sectors: Leadership and efforts to excel Altruism and good intentions Waiting and watching Sense of awe and natural beauty Counting to 3 To share your stories about the 4 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment, please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot. 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

Hang on to your hats, folks! In this episode we begin to approach the core paradox that haunts all of us who concern ourselves with divination: Fate vs. Free Will. My guest is Theresa Reed, aka “The Tarot Lady”.  One of her favorite catchphrases is “The cards tell a story, but you write the ending.” - which makes her the perfect expert to talk about the question that begins ”Will I ever...?” We’ve all asked this question, because we all want to know what our “fate” is.  Willl I ever...find the job of my dreams? Will I ever...find the one? Will I ever...be famous?  Surely our fate is written in the stars or shown in the cards.  But is it really? Tune in to find out. Theresa Reed, aka “The Tarot Lady”) has been a Tarot card reader and astrologer for 40 years. She’s the author of multiple best-selling and award-winning books, including The Tarot Coloring Book, Astrology For Real Life, and The Cards You’re Dealt. She’s a featured writer for The Old Farmer’s Almanac, where she writes about moon phases, zodiac elements, astrocartography, and more. You can find her at thetarotlady.com and on Instagram as @thetarotlady. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In today’s “Ask an Expert” episode with tarot legend Mary K. Greer, we ask: Do the compelling human stories revealed in tarot have the same power, when the storyteller is an artificial intelligence? Can the brilliant mimicry of AI evoke real emotions and maybe even real healing in us? Is there truth to be found when we look at the diviner’s dance of chaos and meaning in the mirror of AI? In short, can AI read tarot???  Stay tuned, because two ordinary human, unartificially-enhanced beings are about to do their best to find out. Have you used AI to read tarot?  What did you think?  How did it compare to readings from a human? Tell me! on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member - to sign up and support the podcast, visit patreon.com/thetarotpodcast). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com. Mary K. Greer is an independent tarot scholar, author and teacher who is known worldwide for her innovative teaching techniques.  She lives in northern California, but you can find her at https://marykgreer.com and on Facebook. [Please note: This conversation was recorded on May 18, 2025. The AI landscape changes rapidly, so some aspects of what we spoke about may have already evolved beyond what we were discussing at the time.] Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s Try This at Home! segment, we look at a two-card spread that will 100% change your life: The World’s Simplest Problem-Solution Spread. If you’re ready to start tackling your bugbears, remedying your missteps, and generally mitigating your angst, LOOK NO FURTHER.    Once you’ve solved your first problem, let me know how it went!  Share your results on the Tarot Podcast Discord server (if you’re a Patreon member). Or you can reach me through the contact form at thetarotpodcast.com.   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s Ask an Expert episode, I speak with veteran tarot teachers Wald and Ruth Ann Amberstone, co-founders of the Tarot School in New York City. The Amberstonesteach, write, speak and publish about tarot on all levels from divination to psychology to esotericism and magical practice. They are perpetual pioneers of new tarot techniques and remain lifelong tarot students. In this conversation, we explore one of the Amberstones’ core techniques: using the inner eye to enter the world of tarot. They walk us through a guided visualization, and share how all of us can find these seemingly imagined worlds in ourselves. You’ll also hear about Ruth Ann’s mini tarot movies of the court cards, which you can view on Patreon if you’re a patron. (To enjoy this and other weekly extras, sign up at patreon.com/thetarotpodcast.) Facebook.com/TarotSchool X.com/TheTarotSchool Pinterest.com/tarotschool Instagram.com/thetarotschool thetarotschool.bsky.social linkedin.com/in/ruthannamberstone TarotSchool.com [email protected] 800-804-2184 Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s 5 Questions episode, we’re speaking with Joanna Powell Colbert about her ground-breaking nature-based deck, the Gaian Tarot, which first came out in 2009 and has just been re-released by Red Feather/Schiffer. Joanna writes and teaches about tarot, earth-centered spirituality, seasonal and lunar lore, and creativity as a spiritual practice. She lives on the edge of woods and lake in Washington State, and it’s her intimate relationship with her magical environs that gives the Gaian Tarot its sense of power and place. You can find her at joannapowellcolbert.com, as well as on Substack, Instagram and Bluesky. joannapowellcolbert.com gaiantarot.com joannapowellcolbert.substack.com @joannapcolbert (instagram, bluesky) __________________________________________________ Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this episode, we examine how the 2 of Wands shows up in the lives of actual living, breathing human beings like you and me! The 2 of Wands is the first of the “decanic cards” in modern tarot—the 2 through 10 number cards in each of the 4 suits. Because the astrology of the decans informs the way people experience decanic cards, this episode includes a very brief intro to decans and how they correspond to tarot cards.  To learn more about decans in the tarot, check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot. When you draw the 2 of Wands, look for synchronicities in the following sectors: New beginnings and calendar matters Planning and executive decisions Two Trees Counting to 2 To share your stories about the 3 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment, please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

In this week’s installment of “Ask an Expert” on the Tarot Podcast, we speak with Lon Milo DuQuette - perhaps the best-known ceremonial magician in this country, an authority on Hermetic Qabalah, and one of the most respected and entertaining writers and lecturers in the field of Western mystery traditions.  You can learn more about Lon and his work at https://lonmiloduquette.net. In this conversation you’ll hear a magician’s perspective on what exactly is going on in the uncanny space where tarot readings occur. How is it that a tarot reading can so accurately comment on what is going on in our lives? Are we just making up the stories we see so clearly in the cards? It all comes down to the fundamental question: Is tarot all in my head?!   The Tarot Podcast relies on listener support to grow and expand! To support the show as a Patreon member, please visit patreon.com/the tarotpodcast.  If you would like to watch the video version, which has added features and graphics, you can do that at youtube.com/@thetarotpodcast.   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

Try This at Home! segments of the podcast feature spreads, techniques to help you develop your tarot practice at your leisure. We begin with a foundational tarot practice: Card of the Day. Invite the poetry of Fate into your life and sharpen your powers of observation! as you hunt for echoes of just one card in your personal surroundings, over the course of each day. Once you've gotten your Card of the Day practice started, let me know how it goes!  Share your synchronicities on the Tarot Podcast Discord server if you’re a Patreon member - if you haven't yet,you can sign up on Patreon here! Or you can write in via the contact form at our website.     Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

The first installment of our Five Questions segment, in which we take a moment to learn about the creative process of tarot artists whose work has had a major impact on those of us who read cards. Our first guest is Chris-Anne Donnelly, maker of art and magic, and creator of the wildly popular Light Seer’s Tarot (2019).  You can learn about Chris-Anne's work on her website, and follow her musings on Instagram, where she is @pixiecurio. The Tarot Podcast relies on listener support to grow and expand! To support the show as a Patreon member, please visit patreon.com/the tarotpodcast.  If you would like to watch the video version, which has added features and graphics, you can do that at youtube.com/@thetarotpodcast.     Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com   😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

The first episode of the Tarot in Real Life segment! where we look at the way cards show up in the lives of actual living, breathing human beings.  We begin with the Ace of Wands. When you draw it, look for synchronicities in the following sectors: Fire/heat Significant anniversaries Phallic imagery! Influx of energy Energy overreactions To share your stories about the 2 of Wands for the next Tarot in Real Life segment, please join as a Patreon supporter of the Tarot Podcast! You can also write in to the show at thetarotpodcast.com/about, using the contact form at the bottom of the page. Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for Tarot Podcast MERCH! & cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com Check out 36 Secrets: A Decanic Journey through the Minor Arcana of the Tarot. 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

The inaugural episode of The Tarot Podcast!  in which we ask legendary tarot teacher Mary K. Greer the fundamental question: why read tarot? Mary K. Greer is perhaps the greatest living tarot authority we have, although she prefers to call herself a “midwife of the soul.”    She’s the author of a dozen books on tarot, including the indispensable Tarot For Your Self. Mary’s blog on the internet features posts on Pamela Colman Smith, the history and practice of tarot, and on women's age-old role as diviners. She also comments on the appearance of tarot and divination in popular media from poetry to books, films and music. You can find her at marykgreer.com and on Facebook.   The Tarot Podcast relies on listener support to grow and expand! To support the show as a Patreon member, please visit patreon.com/the tarotpodcast.  If you would like to watch the video version, which has added features and graphics, you can do that at youtube.com/@thetarotpodcast.   Become a Tarot Podcast member! patreon.com/thetarotpodcast Shop for cool stuff made by your host! etsy.com/shop/tarotista Sign up for readings and explore books and classes! thetarotpodcast.com 😊 And...don't forget to like, rate, subscribe, and share!! 😊

A new podcast for those who love tarot and those who are simply tarot-curious!  Launching May 27th.