Upside-Down Parenting

In this special Mother's Day episode of the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast, Matt Jones and Janel Greig sit down with Cat Jones to explore what it really means to be a 'good mom' in God's upside-down Kingdom. In a culture that pushes performance, comparison, and perfection, this conversation invites moms into something radically different—faithfulness, surrender, and trust. Cat shares honestly from her own motherhood journey, offering wisdom, encouragement, and practical insight for moms in every season—from sleepless nights to launching young adults. Whether you're feeling overwhelmed, discouraged, or just trying to keep up, this episode is a reminder that God has already equipped you for the role he's called you to. In this episode, we cover: *Redefining what success looks like for a Kingdom-focused mom *Why surrender matters more than striving *Letting go of comparison and embracing faithfulness *Choosing presence over perfection *Trusting God through every stage of motherhood Motherhood isn't about getting everything right—it's about walking faithfully with God in the moments that matter most. If this episode encouraged you, share it with a mom who needs to hear it this Mother's Day 💛 Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *How to Set a Family Mission, Values, & Verse Together—A New Year Reset for Christian Parents *Single, Dating, Engaged, Married: Navigating Life and Love in the Modern Age—Ben Stuart *Risen Motherhood: Gospel Hope for Everyday Moments—Emily Jensen  and Laura Wifler *Hard Is Not the Same Thing as Bad: The Perspective Shift That Could Completely Change the Way You Mother—Abbie Halberstadt

Most dads don't say it out loud—but many feel like they're just trying to keep their heads above water. Balancing work, family, expectations… and quietly wondering if they're falling short. In this episode of the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast, Matt Jones and Janel Greig sit down with Dr. Mark Pitts—author, speaker, and founder of the Midnight Dad Devotional community—to have an honest, hope-filled conversation about fatherhood. Together, they explore what it really means to be "called" to be a dad—not as a performance to perfect, but as a role God equips you for. Mark shares wisdom from his new book, Called to Be Dad: How God Equips You to Be the Man He Made You to Be, along with personal stories, biblical encouragement, and practical ways to lead your family with humility, presence, and dependence on God. In this episode, you'll hear: Why fatherhood is a calling—not a performance How to move from striving and pressure to trust and faith Encouragement for dads who feel inadequate or overwhelmed How your view of God as Father shapes the way you parent Practical, biblical habits for showing up well—even imperfectly Whether you're a dad in the trenches, preparing for fatherhood, or supporting one, this conversation will remind you: you're not alone—and you're not unequipped. 👉 If this episode encouraged you, share it with a dad who needs to hear it. Subscribe for more conversations that challenge and encourage you to parent in God's upside-down Kingdom. To learn more about Mark's work and books, check out Calledtobedad.com!  Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Called to Be Dad: How God Equips You to Be the Man He Made You to Be—Dr. Mark Pitts *The Force of Fatherhood—Timothy Fox *Family Discipleship: That Works Guiding Your Child to Know, Love, and Act Like Jesus—Brian Dembowczyk

What should your student do after high school—and how can you help without taking over? In Part 2 of this conversation, Matt Jones and Janel Greig dive into one of the most challenging tensions for parents: guiding your child's future while still allowing them to take ownership of their decisions. From gap years to college choices, they explore how to support your student with wisdom, not control. In this episode, you'll learn how to: Ask better questions that help your student think critically about their future Introduce options early (starting as soon as sophomore or junior year) without overwhelming them Encourage and incentivize wise decisions—without making those decisions for them Allow room for failure and growth, looking at how even Jesus gave his disciples space to struggle and learn (Mark 9) Have meaningful conversations by asking questions like: What excites you? What concerns you about your options? Matt and Janel also reflect on their own post-high school experiences—including lessons they wish they had known earlier, like the importance (and pressure) of choosing a major. Plus, they take a closer look at one powerful option many families overlook: the gap year. Summit Gap Year is a seven-month Christian program designed to help students pause, reflect, and grow before stepping into adulthood. Instead of rushing into big decisions, students build a strong foundation of faith, character, and purpose through intentional rhythms of prayer, study, work, rest, and community. The program includes: Fall Semester (Tarryall River Ranch, CO): Identity formation, solitude, spiritual disciplines, small groups, and outdoor adventure Spring Semester (Manitou Springs, CO): Applying faith through vocation, career exploration, cultural engagement, and evangelism Students live in a close-knit, family-style community—sharing meals, responsibilities, and daily life—learning to live out their faith in real, tangible ways. If you're looking for a thoughtful, Christ-centered approach to life after high school, this episode will help you navigate the decision with clarity and confidence. Learn more about Summit Gap Year: https://www.summit.org/programs/gap-year Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Summit Gap Year *Jesus-Centered Money Habits for Families—Dr. Shane Enete *Truth Prepares the Soil: How Summit Gap Year Forms Lasting Faith—Isaac Hans

What should your student do after high school? College, gap year, trade school… the options can feel overwhelming—especially for Christian parents who want their kids to grow not just academically, but spiritually.  In this two-part series of Upside-Down Parenting, we walk through how to think wisely about your teen's next steps after high school. From evaluating Christian colleges to considering alternative paths, this conversation will help you guide your student with clarity, confidence, and faith. In this series, we cover:  *The different post–high school options (college, gap year, trade school, and more)  *What really matters when evaluating a Christian college *Why a "Christian" label doesn't always mean biblical worldview integration *Key red flags to watch for when researching schools *How to think about faith, academics, and personal growth together *The bigger goal: helping your student take ownership of their faith, not just independence *A different perspective on success Your student doesn't "graduate" from discipleship after high school. This next season is about more than picking a school—it's about forming identity, strengthening faith, and preparing for a life of purpose. Considering a gap year? We also talk about the value of taking a step back before rushing into big decisions. Summit Gap Year is a 7-month Christian program designed to help students grow spiritually, socially, and personally before college or career. Through community, mentorship, study, and real-world experience, students gain clarity about who they are and what God is calling them to do. Learn more here:  https://www.summit.org/programs/gap-year Helpful? Share it! If this episode encouraged you, be sure to: Subscribe for more episodes, leave a review, and share this with another parent navigating these decisions. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Episode 82: What You Should Know About Preparing for College—Dr. Mike Adams *Top 5 Reasons Most College Students Give Up their Christian Faith *Truth Prepares the Soil: How Summit Gap Year Forms Lasting Faith—Isaac Hans

Did Jesus really rise from the dead—and does it actually matter for how we raise our kids? In this episode, Janel Greig and Matt Jones break down the "Minimal Facts" behind the resurrection—historical claims that even critical scholars accept—and explore why they point to something extraordinary. Then they bring it home, discussing how the resurrection changes everything about Christian parenting, from how we handle fear to how we teach truth in a skeptical world. 👍 If you found this helpful, subscribe, leave a review, and share with another parent trying to raise healthy, resilient kids in today's world. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Cold-Case Christianity for Kids: Investigate Jesus with a Real Detective—J. Warner and Susie Wallace *The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus—Gary R. Habermas and Michael Licona *On the Resurrection, Volume 1: Evidences—Gary R. Habermas *'Possums and the Empty Tomb: Picture Book Apologetics with James and Ruth—J. D. Camorlinga *The Resurrection of Jesus: Truth & Meaning for This Life & Beyond—Douglas Groothuis

Is screen time actually rewiring your child's brain and body? In this episode of the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast, we explore the hidden physical and neurological impact of screen time on kids—and why Christian parents can't afford to ignore the body. Many parents focus on spiritual growth, but what if we're overlooking something critical? God designed our kids as whole beings—body and soul. And in today's digital world, technology is shaping both in powerful ways. We're joined by Bryan Crutcher, Professor of Kinesiology and Sport Management at Texas A&M University, to unpack the science and theology behind movement, physical development, and screen use. 🧠 What You'll Learn: How screen time affects kids' brain development and physical health The long-term costs of a sedentary childhood Why movement is essential for learning, emotional regulation, and growth Common mistakes parents make with kids' sports, activity, and habits How to build healthy rhythms of movement at every stage (kids, teens, adults) A biblical vision for the body: why faith is not just "spiritual" Practical ways to reduce screen dependence and raise active, healthy kids 👨‍👩‍👧 For Christian Parents: What message are we sending if we prioritize spiritual disciplines but neglect physical ones? This episode will help you think differently about stewardship, discipline, and raising kids who honor God with their whole lives. 👍 If you found this helpful, subscribe, leave a review, and share with another parent trying to raise healthy, resilient kids in today's world. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain—Dr. John J. Ratey and Eric Hagerman *How Technology Affects Us (and What to Do About It)—Timothy Fox *Parent Kit: Navigating the World of Technology & Social Media *Screens and Teens: Connecting with Our Kids in a Wireless World—Dr. Kathy Koch

Is following Jesus just about the "spiritual" side of life—or does the body matter too? In this episode of Upside-Down Parenting, hosts Matt Jones and Janel Greig tackle a topic often overlooked in Christian parenting: the role of the body in raising kids who thrive in God's Kingdom. Joined by Dr. Bryan Crutcher, a professor of Kinesiology and Sport Management at Texas A&M University, this conversation explores how physical health, movement, and embodied living are essential parts of discipleship—not just optional add-ons. Together, we unpack: *Why the body is central to a biblical worldview  *Common mistakes parents make with kids and physical activity *How to foster healthy movement habits without creating performance pressure *The impact of screen time and sedentary lifestyles on kids today *What age-appropriate physical formation looks like from childhood through adolescence *How movement helps kids regulate stress, anxiety, and emotions *Practical ways parents can model healthy habits—even when they feel exhausted You'll also hear how to talk about the body as a gift to steward, not a project to perfect—and how to raise kids who value health, joy, and God's design for their lives. Key takeaway: Raising kids in God's upside-down Kingdom means caring for their whole person—body and soul. If you want to raise resilient, healthy, and grounded kids in a distracted and sedentary culture, this episode will give you both a fresh perspective and practical next steps. 👉 Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with other parents who want to raise the next generation well. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *How Parents' Modeling Faith Shapes Their Child's Beliefs—Dr. Jason Barker *Human Value & the Image of God—Christopher L. Reese *Love Thy Body: Answering Hard Questions about Life and Sexuality—Nancy R. Pearcey

Parenting kids is challenging—especially when you want them to stand firm in their faith in a world full of confusion and pressure. But guiding them doesn't mean controlling every decision or striving for "perfect parenting." In this episode, part two of our discussion with Alicia Bennett from Mobilizer Mom, we walk you through practical ways to guide your teen's faith, create space for honest questions, and nurture resilient, Christ-centered young people who truly own their beliefs. She shares her own journey from feeling overwhelmed and stuck to discovering joy and freedom in parenting through Christ. 👍 Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share with another parent who needs encouragement today. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Window on the World: A Children's Prayer Resource—Operation World *Mobilizer Mom *Feeding the Mouth That Bites You: Parenting Teenagers Into Adulthood—Kenneth Wilgus

We all want our kids to stand strong in their faith—even when the world feels confusing, challenging, or downright hostile. But raising children who truly own their beliefs isn't about controlling every behavior or hitting the "perfect parenting" mark. It's about creating space for them to wrestle with faith, ask questions, and see God's truth in everyday life. In this episode of Upside-Down Parenting, we're joined by Alicia Bennett from Mobilizer Mom, who knows firsthand the struggle of feeling overwhelmed and stuck in the cycle of parenting frustration. Through a personal transformation in Christ, Alicia rediscovered the joy of motherhood and the power of discipling her children in everyday moments. She now equips parents to embrace their God-given identity, create Christ-centered homes, and raise the next generation of "Daniels and Esthers"—kids who stand firm in their faith and boldly impact the world. Tune in as we explore how to guide your child's faith without controlling it, challenge them in new ways, and trust God to lead their hearts. This episode is packed with practical strategies for raising resilient, faith-driven kids in today's culture. 👍 Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share with another parent who needs encouragement today. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Mobilizer Mom *How Parents' Modeling Faith Shapes Their Child's Beliefs—Dr. Jason Barker *When Mom Guilt Meets Grace: A Biblical Approach—Dr. Maggie Pope *Gospel Mom: How to Make Biblical Decisions and Discover the Mom God Created You to Be—Emily Jensen and Laura Wifler  

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast, where we help Christian parents navigate today's culture with biblical wisdom, practical tools, and real encouragement. Parenting has never been simple—but in a world filled with new spiritual ideas, social media influences, and shifting cultural values, many parents are asking an important question: How do we help our kids recognize truth and follow Christ with confidence? In today's episode we're talking about the growing influence of New Age and 'new spirituality' trends among young people. From mindfulness culture to manifestation, spiritual-but-not-religious beliefs, and online influencers, these ideas are shaping how kids think about truth, identity, and God—often in subtle ways. Joining us today is Dr. Michael Plato, who will help us understand what these movements are, why they're so appealing to the next generation, and how Christian parents can respond with wisdom, grace, and a strong biblical worldview. You'll walk away with practical insights, conversation starters, and encouragement to help your kids grow in a faith that's thoughtful, resilient, and rooted in Christ. 👍 Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share with another parent who needs encouragement today. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Strange Rites: New Religions for a Godless World—Tara Isabella Burton *Confronting the New Age: How to Resist a Growing Religious Movement—Douglas Groothuis *5 False Worldviews That Ensnare Your Church—Dr. Jeff Myers

In today's rapidly changing culture, many parents feel caught between two extremes: withdrawing from the world or being swept away by it. How can we raise kids who stay grounded in truth while engaging culture with wisdom, courage, and hope? In this episode of Upside-Down Parenting, we're joined by Sarah Stonestreet to explore how families can cultivate resilient, faith-filled kids in a post-Christian world. Together, we discuss what true biblical strength looks like, why meekness is actually power under control, and how simple daily rhythms of prayer and Scripture can shape lasting faith. You'll be encouraged and equipped with practical insights on: • Raising hopeful kids without fear  • Teaching biblical character in a competitive culture • Building spiritual resilience through everyday habits • Staying engaged with culture while rooted in truth If you've ever wondered whether you're doing enough as a parent — or felt overwhelmed by the world your kids are growing up in — this conversation will remind you that faithful parenting is about consistent formation, not perfection. 👍 Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share with another parent who needs encouragement today. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *What Marriage Has Taught Us About God—Dustin and Ruthann Jizmejian *When Mom Guilt Meets Grace: A Biblical Approach—Dr. Maggie Pope *Your Identity in God's Story—Natasha Smith

Parenting in today's culture can feel overwhelming, confusing, and sometimes even upside-down. But you're not alone, and you don't have to figure it out by yourself. In this episode of Upside-Down Parenting, we sit down with Aaron Klemm, Director of Content & Publishing at Summit Ministries, to talk about an important shift happening at Summit Ministries: a growing commitment to supporting parents more intentionally than ever before. For years, Summit has been known for equipping students to think critically and live out a biblical worldview. Now, Summit is expanding its focus to come alongside moms and dads—providing resources, training, and encouragement to help them confidently guide their kids' faith and character. In this conversation, you'll discover: *Why Summit is investing more in parents right now.  *What new programs and resources are available for families *What makes Summit's approach to parenting unique *How a biblical worldview shapes practical parenting guidance  *Encouragement for parents who feel overwhelmed or unsure where to start Whether you're raising young kids, teens, or somewhere in between, this episode will remind you that you don't have to navigate today's challenges alone—and that equipping the next generation starts with equipping parents. 👉 Subscribe for more practical wisdom and biblical encouragement to help you parent with confidence. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch *How Parents' Modeling Faith Shapes Their Child's Beliefs—Dr. Jason Barker *The Nuts and Bolts of Worldview Formation—Dr. Maggie Pope and Dr. Roger Erdvig  

Did Jesus ever actually say things like, "Just follow your heart," or "Believe in yourself?" Today on the Upside-Down Parenting podcast, Matt Jones and I are talking about well-intended phrases Christian parents often use—phrases that sound biblical, but may actually misrepresent Jesus. Over time, these kinds of statements can subtly shape a fear-based, performance-driven faith instead of one rooted in trust and formation. And if we want to disciple our kids into an authentic, resilient faith that lasts, we have to stop putting words in Jesus' mouth and start letting his actual words shape the way we parent. Have a question for us? Email [email protected]—your question may be featured in an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Live Your Truth and Other Lies: Exposing Popular Deceptions That Make Us Anxious, Exhausted, and Self-Obsessed—Alisa Childers *Stop Looking Inside Yourself—Dr. Jeff Myers *When "Being Yourself" Hurts Yourself—Rebecca Sachaj

Today, we're talking about a topic that can feel heavy, confusing, and even scary for parents: how to walk alongside your child who is questioning their faith or wrestling with doubt. Now is the perfect time to equip ourselves with understanding, patience, and the right tools—because when our kids struggle with faith, what they often need most is not answers, but a safe space to explore their questions. We're honored to welcome Jon Noyes to the podcast. Jon is a seasoned speaker, apologist, and writer who has spent years helping families navigate difficult conversations about faith, doubt, and belief. With a blend of practical wisdom, empathy, and encouragement, he offers parents a steady, hope-filled approach to a deeply sensitive journey. In this episode, we explore how to respond with grace, maintain trust and connection, and engage these conversations without fear or defensiveness. Whether your child is a teen, a young adult, or somewhere in between, this discussion is designed to equip you to walk alongside them with love, empathy, and hope. If you've ever wondered how to stay connected when beliefs are being questioned, this episode is for you. Have a question for us? Email [email protected]—your question may be featured in an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *The Deconstruction of Christianity: What It Is, Why It's Destructive, and How to Respond—Alisa Childers and Tim Barnett *Deconstruction & the Road Back Home—Christopher L. Reese *Doubt is a Doorway—Charlie Meo

As we kick off a new year, we're diving into a topic that impacts every family: money. Teaching our kids to steward money and resources well can feel stressful, overwhelming, or even divisive—but it doesn't have to be. A New Year reset is the perfect opportunity to rethink how our families handle finances, cultivate generosity, and live with joy and purpose. In this episode, we're joined by Dr. Shane Enete, author of Whole Heart Finances: A Jesus-Centered Guide to Managing Your Money with Joy. Shane shares practical wisdom and biblical insight on how faith, family, and finances intersect in everyday life, offering encouragement for parents who want to raise generous, joyful stewards. Together, we explore what it means to manage money with a whole heart, how to teach children biblical stewardship, and practical steps families can take to align their finances with their faith. Join us as we discover how Jesus-centered money habits can bring freedom, joy, and purpose to your family finances. Have a question for us? Email [email protected]—your question may be featured in an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Whole Heart Finances: A Jesus-Centered Guide to Managing Your Money with Joy—Shane Enete *The Money Storybook Bible Podcast *Gen Z's Problems With Money & the True Secret to Financial Peace—Shane Enete

Welcome back to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast! I'm your host, Janel Greig, and today we're launching into a conversation to help set your family's faith on the right path for the new year—a true New Year Reset for Christian parents. In this episode, we're excited to welcome Natasha Crain, author of several books, including Talking with Your Kids About God, Keeping Your Kids on God's Side, and a number of others. She is a respected speaker, podcaster, and influencer and her gift of taking complicated topics and breaking them down is remarkable. Today we're diving into why intentional, faith-filled conversations with your children are so crucial—and what that looks like in real life. From practical tips for sparking dialogue, to how to respond when you don't have all the answers, to the importance of your heart posture as a parent, Natasha shares insights every Christian parent can use to help their kids build a lasting faith. Whether your kids are little or teens, this is a hope-filled, practical conversation to help you start the year with clarity, purpose, and mission in your family. So get comfortable, settle in, and let's dive in! Have a question for us? Email [email protected]—your question may be featured in an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Talking with Your Kids about God: 30 Conversations Every Christian Parent Must Have—Natasha Crain *Keeping Your Kids on God's Side: 40 Conversations to Help Them Build a Lasting Faith—Natasha Crain *World Watch *When Your Kids Ask Why: Everyday Apologetics for Parents—Janel Greig

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast! Technology is shaping our kids' world faster than ever—and artificial intelligence is at the center of the conversation. How can Christian parents raise discerning, faithful children in this digital age? In this episode, we'll hear from Sarah Siegand, founder of Parents Who Fight, who joins us to explore wise, faith-filled parenting in the age of technology. She shares practical strategies to guide kids toward wisdom, cultivate discernment, and keep Christ at the center of family life—without fear and with hope for the future. Whether you're a parent, grandparent, or mentor, this conversation will equip you to engage technology thoughtfully and shepherd the next generation with confidence. Have a question for us? Email [email protected]—your question may be featured in an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *Parents Who Fight *AI, Technology, & Human Development—Shawn Ring *AI Goes to Church: Pastoral Wisdom for Artificial Intelligence—Todd Korpi *Parent ProTech

Welcome back to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast, and Happy New Year! We're so glad you're kicking off the new year with us. Today we're diving into a conversation that could set the tone for your entire year as a family. The truth is, most families don't drift toward purpose—they drift toward busyness, apathy, or passivity. And if we're not intentional, we let the world dictate our schedules instead of discipling our kids. That's why, in this episode, we're talking about starting the year on purpose—on mission—by creating a simple family mission, identifying your core values, and choosing a Bible verse that anchors everything you do. No matter your family's life stage, this is a practical, hope-filled way to bring clarity, unity, and direction to your home. So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and let's build a meaningful foundation for the year together. Email us at [email protected]—your question may shape an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend: *The Meaning of Marriage: Facing the Complexities of Commitment with the Wisdom of God—Timothy and Kathy Keller *Choosing a Family "Rule of Life" for the New Year: A Simple Guide for Christian Parents—Jesse Childress *What role does family play in society?—Jennifer Marshall

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast! As we step into the Christmas season—a time filled with joy, anticipation, and plenty of emotion—we're glad you're here. I'm joined by my co-host, Matt Jones, and together we're slowing things down to talk about what it really looks like to flourish as a family during the holidays. Whether you're wrapping gifts, driving to a Christmas program, or grabbing a quiet moment between events, this episode is an invitation to cultivate a season marked by presence, connection, and intentionality—all while keeping our hearts centered on the birth of our Savior. Have a question you'd like us to explore in a future episode? Email us at [email protected]—your question may shape an upcoming Q&A! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Women in Apologetics *Your Kids Need a Bigger Christmas Story—Sara Starkey *5 Reasons to Celebrate Advent—Hannah Long *Is Christmas Pagan? Helping Your Kids Understand the Truth—Timothy Fox

Who doesn't love a good Q&A podcast? Today, we're diving into some of the biggest and most pressing questions Christian parents are asking right now—questions about raising resilient kids in a rapidly shifting culture, standing boldly for biblical truth, and helping your children embrace God's upside-down Kingdom in their everyday lives. In this episode, we'll unpack practical parenting strategies, offer faith-filled encouragement, and share real-life tools you can start using immediately. From navigating cultural confusion to strengthening your child's spiritual foundation, we're here to help you lead with clarity, confidence, and Christ-centered wisdom. Have a question you'd like us to tackle in a future episode? Send it our way at [email protected]—your question just might shape our next Q&A! So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and let's jump into today's conversation! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *58% of Highly Engaged Christian Parents Choose a Church with Their Kids in Mind—Barna Group *2025 American Worldview Inventory Report 1 & Report 2—George Barna *How Concerned Are Christian Parents About Their Children's Faith Formation?—Barna Group *The Sibling Effect: What the Bonds Among Brothers & Sisters Reveal about Us—Jeffrey Kluger *The Nuts and Bolts of Worldview Formation—Dr. Maggie Pope & Dr. Roger Erdvig

As parents, we all want to raise kids who can recognize truth, love what's good, and stand firm in a world that often feels confusing or apathetic. In this episode of the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast, hosts Matt Jones and Janel Greig talk with global children's advocate Katy Faust about how ordinary moms and dads can find their voice and confidently lead their families. Katy shares her inspiring journey from being an anonymous blogger to becoming the Founder and President of Them Before Us, a movement dedicated to protecting children's rights. Her story shows that you don't need a platform—you just need conviction and a willingness to speak up. In this conversation, we explore: Why kids need more than love and safety—they need both their mom and dad How to talk with your kids about cultural messages that contradict biblical truth Practical ways to push past fear, self-doubt, or criticism as a parent The most important thing you can do to help your children stand boldly for truth Encouragement for parents who feel overwhelmed, unsure, or alone You'll also get to know Katy through a fun rapid-fire round that highlights the habits and influences that shape her own family life. If you're a parent wanting to raise confident, grounded kids in today's world, this episode will give you clarity, courage, and hope. Have questions for a future Q&A episode? Email us at [email protected] with the subject line "Upside-Down Parenting." Thanks for listening! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Them Before Us *Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement—Katy Faust & Stacy Manning *Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City: Teaching Historical, Economic, & Biological Truth in a World of Lies—Katy Faust & Stacy Manning *Pro-Child Politics: Why Every Cultural, Economic, & National Issue Is a Matter of Justice for Children—Katy Faust *Kids' Rights, IVF, Legislation, and More with Katy Faust & Josh Wood

Parenting is an incredible adventure—but it can also feel confusing and overwhelming, especially when your teen drifts into apathy about faith. In this episode of the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries, Matt and Janel unpack what apathy really is, why it shows up, and how parents can help their kids reawaken desire for God through meaningful, everyday practices. We kick things off with stories from Matt and Janel's lives—from student moments and family traditions, to the world of PSATs, college planning, and the subtle apathy teens sometimes bring to significant life transitions. These honest reflections help set the stage for today's deep dive. This episode offers rich insight for parents who want to cultivate deeper meaning, mission, and affection in their home. Apathy isn't solved in one conversation—it's shaped over time through rhythms that awaken the heart and steady the soul. 👉 Have a question for our next Q&A episode? Email us at [email protected] with "Upside-Down Parenting" in the subject line. Thanks for listening—and we'll see you next time! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Five Reasons for Spiritual Apathy in Teens: What Parents Can Do to Help—Rob & Amy Rienow *The 5 Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lasts—Gary Chapman *Overcoming Apathy: Gospel Hope for Those Who Struggle to Care—Uche Anizor *Five to Thrive: How to Determine if Your Core Needs Are Being Met (And What To Do When They're Not)—Kathy Koch

Why do so many teens seem to lose spiritual interest, disconnect from faith, or drift into apathy? And what can parents do about it? In this episode of the Upside-Down Parenting Podcast from Summit Ministries, hosts Matt Jones and Janel Greig open with real-life stories to highlight the surprising moments when God uses ordinary experiences to shape our kids' hearts. Then they dive into the rising challenge of spiritual apathy among teens. Instead of simply blaming attitude or immaturity, Matt and Janel explore the deeper heart issues behind apathy and unpack key reasons today's teens disengage spiritually. They discuss how parents can use these reasons as "heart check-ups" to understand what's really going on beneath the surface. Along the way, they discuss practical parenting stories—humility in parenting, asking forgiveness without excuses, heart-motivation conversations, managing fear when a teen pulls away, and creating rhythms of honesty, grace, and discipleship in the home. But there is hope! apathy doesn't happen overnight, and neither does growth—but God meets parents and teens in the middle of the mess. Next week, they'll turn to what parents can do to help reignite a teen's desire for God. If you have a question you'd like answered on a future Q&A episode, email [email protected] and include "Upside-Down Parenting" in the subject line. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Five Reasons for Spiritual Apathy in Teens: What Parents Can Do to Help—Rob & Amy Rienow *The 4 Questions That Shape a Teen's Faith *Visionary Parenting: Capture a God-Sized Vision for Your Family—Rob & Amy Rienow

Today, we're thrilled to share a special episode of the Upside-Down Parenting podcast with you. Several times a year, we host livestreams at Summit specifically for parents—and a few months ago, Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch joined us for one of those events to discuss their latest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design. In this conversation, Dr. Jeff and Dr. Kathy equip and encourage parents to navigate today's gender confusion with both clarity and compassion—always grounded in biblical truth. And here's some fantastic news: you can actually get a free copy of their book by visiting Summit.org/Parents. Be sure to check it out! With that said, let's jump into the discussion. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch *Resilient Kids: Raising Them to Embrace Life with Confidence—Dr. Kathy Koch *Parent Kit: Sexuality & Identity

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. Parenting is one of the greatest adventures ever, yet we all know that parenting can also feel overwhelming and confusing. The great news is you don't have to do it alone. We're here to walk with you as you raise your kids to embrace God's counter-cultural truth, his upside-down kingdom, and champion a biblical worldview. On this episode, we're continuing our conversation about apathy—and how we can push back with courage and purpose. As parents, how can we resist the tide of indifference and step boldly into action? How can we help our kids avoid falling into the same trap? The call to action may look different for each of us, but the heart is the same: pick up the mic. Don't defer, delay, or disengage. Step in. Speak up. Be part of shaping a worldview grounded in truth, courage, and love. So, let's dive in! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism—Paul Vitz *What Do I Say When . . . ?: A Parent's Guide to Navigating Cultural Chaos for Children and Teens—Andrew T. Walker & Christian Walker *How Parents' Modeling Faith Shapes Their Child's Beliefs—Dr. Jason Barker

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. Parenting is one of the greatest adventures ever, yet we all know that parenting can also feel overwhelming and confusing. The great news is you don't have to do it alone. We're here to walk with you as you raise your kids to embrace God's counter-cultural truth, his upside-down kingdom, and champion a biblical worldview. On this episode, we're talking about a rallying cry for parents—and really, for all of us—to push back against apathy and step into action. Whether it's speaking up at a school board meeting, having that tough conversation with your child, really listening to your teen, giving someone else the mic, or re-engaging with an apathetic kid—each moment matters. The call to action may look different for everyone, but the heart is the same: pick up the mic. Don't defer, delay, or disengage. Step in. Speak up. Be part of shaping a worldview grounded in truth, courage, and love. So, let's dive in! Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *2025 American Worldview Inventory Report 1 and Report 2—George Barna *Almost Half of Practicing Christian Millennials Say Evangelism Is Wrong—Barna Group *Apathetic Christians—J. Warner Wallace *Parenting Gen Z: Guiding Your Child Through a Hostile Culture—Gregory Koukl

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. Parenting can feel overwhelming and disorienting. But you don't have to do it alone. We're here to walk with you as you raise your kids to embrace God's counter-cultural truth, his upside-down kingdom, and champion a biblical worldview. Today, we're going to talk about the secret sauce of good parenting and a strong family: your marriage! Prioritizing your marriage may be the most important thing you focus on as you work to be a better parent.  For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *The Meaning of Marriage: Facing the Complexities of Commitment with the Wisdom of God—Timothy & Kathy Keller *What Makes a Great Marriage… and Why It's Worth It—Dr. Bob Paul *What Marriage Has Taught Us About God—Dustin Jizmejian

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. Parenting can feel overwhelming and disorienting. But you don't have to do it alone. We're here to walk with you as you raise your kids to embrace God's counter-cultural truth, his upside-down Kingdom, and champion a biblical worldview. On this episode, we'd love to talk about the day-to-day experience of parenting—how we handle the ups and downs, the changing seasons, and the habits that shape our homes and hearts. We'll explore what it looks like to find healthy rhythms of grace in family life, to stay grounded when life feels chaotic, and to keep your eyes on Christ through it all. Because in God's upside-down Kingdom, faithfulness matters more than perfection—and every small moment counts. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *The Pilgrim's Progress—Tedd Tripp *Red Pen Logic with Mr. B—Tim Barnett *World Watch *Prayer: Experiencing Awe and Intimacy with God—Timothy Keller *The Toxic War on Masculinity: How Christianity Reconciles the Sexes—Nancy Pearcey *How Parents' Modeling Faith Shapes Their Child's Beliefs

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. Parenting often feels overwhelming and disorienting, but you don't have to navigate it alone. We're here to come alongside you as you raise your kids to embrace God's countercultural truth, live in his upside-down kingdom, and stand confidently in a biblical worldview. In today's episode, Dr. Matt Jones and Janel Greig introduce themselves and share why they are passionate about equipping Christian parents. You'll hear part of their story, practical parenting advice, and biblical encouragement for raising kids who embrace God's truth. Together, they explore what it means to thrive as a family in today's complex culture. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Shepherding a Child's Heart—Tedd Tripp *Parenting: 14 Gospel Principles That Can Radically Change Your Family—Paul David Tripp *Keeping Your Kids on God's Side—Natasha Crain *Biblical Truths About Your Kid's Identity & How to Help Them Thrive—Christopher L. Reese

In today's episode, we're honored to have J. Warner Wallace is a Dateline featured cold-case homicide detective, popular national speaker and best-selling author. He continues to consult on cold-case investigations while serving as a Senior Fellow at the Colson Center for Christian Worldview. He is also an adjunct professor of apologetics at Talbot School of Theology, Gateway Seminary, and Southern Evangelical Seminary, and a faculty member and one of our favorites here at Summit Ministries. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *So the Next Generation Will Know: Preparing Young Christians for a Challenging World—Sean McDowell & J. Warner Wallace *When Your Kids Ask Why: Everyday Apologetics for Parents—Janel Greig *Responding to Generation Z's Questions about the Bible—Dr. Jason Barker

In today's episode, we're excited to have Andrea Crum join us on the show! Andrea is a leader in biblical worldview, apologetics, and family discipleship, helping families navigate today's cultural chaos with God's truth. A wife and mom of two, she brings her passion for Scripture and family life together by leading Genuine Family Ministries with her husband, Matt, and hosting the Raising Christian Kids Conference. As the author of Christ over Culture: Raising Christian Kids to Stand in a Postmodern World and a graduate of the Colson Center for Christian Worldview, Andrea equips parents with practical insights and strategies to help their children stand up, stand out, and stand apart as followers of Christ in a confusing, postmodern culture.  For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Christ Over Culture: Raising Christian Kids to Stand in a Postmodern World—Andrea Crum *Colson Center for Christian Worldview *Knowing God—J. I. Packer *Theo of Golden—Allen Levi *Building Understanding Across Worldviews—Richard Lombard

In this episode, we're joined by Kate Watson, Publisher at Axis—an organization passionate about bridging the generational gap and empowering parents to connect with their kids on today's toughest topics. Kate shares practical insights on how to have sincere, open, and honest conversations about culture, technology, faith, and everyday challenges. Whether you're looking for ways to strengthen your relationship with your kids, talk about difficult issues from a Christian perspective, or simply feel less alone in your parenting journey, this conversation will encourage and equip you. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Axis: Biblical Resources to Help Parents Disciple Their Teens *Gallup Poll: Gen Zers to Their Parents *Can Parents Use Technology for Good?—Johnathan McKee *Pop Culture: How Should A Christian Respond?—Chuck Edwards

In today's episode, we're thrilled to welcome Todd Korpi, a leader in helping Christian parents thoughtfully engage with artificial intelligence. Todd holds a DMiss from Fuller Theological Seminary and brings a wealth of experience as a pastor, missiologist, and church consultant. He's also the dean of digital ministry programs at Ascent College, an assistant professor of Christian leadership at Fuller Theological Seminary, and works in several roles with OneHope. Todd recently authored AI Goes to Church: Pastoral Wisdom for Artificial Intelligence. Alongside his wife, Tara, Todd lives in Chicagoland with their three daughters.  For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *AI Goes to Church: Pastoral Wisdom for Artificial Intelligence—Todd Korpi *Human (Like)—Rebecca Sachaj *Artificial Intelligence, ChatGPT, Bible Chat, & the Way of Jesus—Chase Cappo

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. Parenting often feels overwhelming and disorienting, but you don't have to navigate it alone. We're here to come alongside you as you raise your kids to embrace God's countercultural truth, live in his upside-down kingdom, and stand confidently in a biblical worldview. In today's episode, we're excited to welcome Shanda Fulbright! A former California public school teacher turned Christian apologist, Shanda combines her background in education with a passion for equipping the next generation in biblical truth. She develops apologetics curricula for middle schoolers, co-authors online courses with Dr. Frank Turek of Cross Examined, and hosts Her Faith Inspires, a globally ranked podcast addressing cultural issues through Scripture. Shanda is also a wife and mom to three boys, with a deep conviction to disciple others in truth—beginning at home and extending across the world. Let's welcome Shanda to the show! For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Cross Examined—Frank Turek *Her Faith Inspires—Shanda Fulbright *#BOYMOM: Chosen To Birth Him. Called To Raise Him—Shanda Fulbright *Johnny Tremain—Esther Hoskins Forbes

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries! As parents, we know life can sometimes feel disorienting, overwhelming, maybe even upside-down. We're here to journey with you as you parent your kids to embrace God's upside-down kingdom & way of life. On today's episode we're honored to have Alisa Childer's on the show to discuss what it looks like to raise resilient kids in a culture that often tempts them with 'progressive Christianity,' false views of the gospel, & destructive ways of life. Let's listen in! Alisa Childers is a wife, a mom, an author, a blogger, a speaker, & a worship leader. She was a member of the award-winning CCM recording group ZOEgirl. She is a popular speaker at apologetics & Christian worldview conferences, including reThink. She has been published at The Gospel Coalition, Crosswalk, the Stream, For Every Mom, Decision magazine, & The Christian Post. You can connect with Alisa online at alisachilders.com. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Another Gospel? Student Edition: A Lifelong Christian Seeks Truth in Response to Progressive Christianity—Alisa Childers *Rejoice and Tremble: The Surprising Good News of the Fear of the Lord—Michael Reeves *The Hobbit—J. R. R. Tolkien *Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch  

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. Parenting can feel overwhelming and disorienting. But you don't have to do it alone. We're here to walk with you as you raise your kids to embrace God's counter-cultural truth, his upside-down kingdom, and champion a biblical worldview. In today's episode, we're diving into your questions! You've sent in some thoughtful ones, and Gabriel and I are here to reflect, respond, and wrestle through them together. We don't pretend to have all the answers, but we're honored to walk this parenting journey with you—as fellow parents and followers of Jesus. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Axis: Biblical Teen Parenting Resources *Transformative Household Habits for Families in God's Redemptive Story—Charlie Meo *Understanding the Faith—Dr. Jeff Myers *Habits of the Household—Justin Whitmel Early

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. As parents, life can sometimes feel overwhelming, even upside-down. We're here to journey with you as you parent your kids to embrace God's counter-cultural truth and champion a biblical worldview.  In today's episode, we're honored to welcome Dr. Matt and Cathy Jones, a couple whose wisdom runs deep. They'll share some intentional decisions, daily rhythms, and faith-filled commitments that helped their three kids grow up confident in who God made them to be. No parent gets it all right, but Matt and Cathy offer hard-earned insight for anyone wanting to raise kids secure in their God-given identity. Summit's newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, written by Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch, is full of biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn't a book just for families in crisis—it's for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God's good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch *Biblical Truths About Your Kid's Identity & How to Help Them Thrive—Christopher L. Reese *What Do I Say When . . . ?: A Parent's Guide to Navigating Cultural Chaos for Children and Teens—Andrew and Christian Walker

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries! As parents, we know life can sometimes feel disorienting, overwhelming, maybe even upside-down. We're here to journey with you as you parent your kids to embrace God's upside-down kingdom and way of life. On today's episode, we're doing something special. We're bringing back all the hosts from our previous episodes for a roundtable conversation where they'll tackle some of the most pressing, real-life questions about gender, sexuality, identity, and what it means to follow Jesus in today's cultural landscape. These are the kinds of topics that families wrestle with around the dinner table, in late-night conversations, and in moments of quiet reflection. It's a chance to hear practical wisdom, biblical insight, and honest discussion from trusted voices you've already gotten to know. Summit's newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, written by Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch, is full of biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn't a book just for families in crisis—it's for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God's good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers &  Dr. Kathy Koch *The Anxious Generation—Jonathan Haidt *Secure Daughters, Confident Sons: How Parents Guide Their Children into Authentic Masculinity 7 Femininity—Glenn T. Stanton *Screen Kids—Arlene Pellicane *How to Positively Introduce Gender to Your Child: A Parent's Guide—Katie Bergford

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. As parents, life can sometimes feel overwhelming, even upside-down. We're here to journey with you as you parent your kids to embrace God's counter-cultural truth and champion a biblical worldview.  On today's episode, we're going to discuss with Dr. Roger Erdvig and Dr. Maggie Pope what it looks like to teach your kids to embody a biblical worldview. It's not enough for our kids to just know the correct answers; we want them to live it out. The way of Jesus is not only true, it is also good and beautiful. We want our kids to have a holistic faith that includes their head, heart, and habits. We've laid the groundwork in previous episodes for raising gender-confident kids; now let's put that into practice. Summit's newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, written by Dr. Jeff Myers and Dr. Kathy Koch, is full of biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn't a book just for families in crisis—it's for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God's good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Beyond Biblical Integration: Immersing You and Your Students in a Biblical Worldview—Roger Erdvig  *Parent Kit: Sexuality & Identity *God & the Transgender Debate: What Does the Bible Actually Say about Gender Identity?—Andrew T. Walker

On today's episode, we're going to discuss how a biblical worldview clarifies what gender is and how it offers a flourishing identity for our kids today. Dr. Jeff Myers, president of Summit Ministries, joins us to share what the biblical metanarrative has to say about identity, gender, and so much more. Let's journey together! Dr. Jeff and Dr. Kathy's newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, is written to come alongside parents with biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn't a book just for families in crisis—it's for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God's good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com. For more practical, biblically based resources for parents, check out Summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers & Dr. Kathy Koch *Screen Kids & Parents Rising—Arlene Pellicane *Transgenderism, the Bible, & How to Help— Jason Barker *Understanding Gender Ideology & Transgenderism—Christopher L. Reese

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries. As parents, life can sometimes feel overwhelming, even upside-down. We're here to journey with you as you parent your kids to embrace God's counter-cultural truth and champion a biblical worldview. On today's episode, we're diving into what it means to help our kids build a foundation of gender confidence by focusing on five core needs. Dr. Kathy Koch joins us to share her wisdom, offering practical ways parents can root their children's identity in God's truth. Let's journey together! Dr. Kathy's newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, written with Dr. Jeff Myers, is packed with biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn't a book just for families in crisis—it's for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God's good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com. For more practical, biblically-based resources for parents, check out: Summit.org/parents.  Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers & Dr. Kathy Koch *The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, & the Road to Sexual Revolution—Carl R. Trueman *Parenting: 14 Gospel Principles That Can Radically Change Your Family—Paul David Tripp *How Did We Get Here? Identity, Sexuality, & Gender—Steve Wierenga

Welcome to the Upside-Down Parenting podcast from Summit Ministries! Parenting today can feel disorienting, like the world's been flipped upside down. But you're not alone. In a culture that often pushes against biblical truth, this podcast is here to equip and encourage you with practical insight and Christ-centered wisdom for the parenting journey. At Summit, we believe parents are the single greatest influence on a child's faith. Together, we'll explore what it means to raise kids who thrive, embrace God's truth, live out a biblical worldview, and follow Jesus in his beautifully counter-cultural way of life. In our very first episode, we'll dive into what it means to raise gender-confident kids and why this conversation is essential for every parent today. Our guests are Dr. Jeff Myers, president of Summit Ministries, and Dr. Kathy Koch, president of Celebrate Kids. Let's journey together!  Dr. Jeff and Dr. Kathy's newest book, Raising Gender-Confident Kids, is written to come alongside parents with biblical wisdom, practical guidance, and real-life examples. It isn't a book just for families in crisis—it's for every mom and dad who wants their children to embrace God's good design with joy and courage. Get your free copy at genderconfidentkids.com. For more practical, biblically based resources for parents, check out summit.org/parents. Resources we talked about or that we'd recommend:  *Raising Gender-Confident Kids: Helping Kids Embrace Their God-Given Design—Dr. Jeff Myers & Dr. Kathy Koch *Gender Norms and True Manhood—Timothy Fox *Why Would God Make Us Gendered?—Pastor Ken Robertson

Do you feel overwhelmed by the responsibility of helping your kids see the world the way God does? Does parenting sometimes leave you feeling disoriented—like you're spinning upside-down?  You're not alone. We love our kids and want more than anything for them to grow up with flourishing faith. Each episode of this podcast will give you practical insight, biblical wisdom, and encouragement for the journey. We're here to walk through both the hard stuff and the everyday stuff with you. By connecting truth with relationships, we can create a powerful, lasting influence in a child's life. When our kids experience both—the clarity of biblical truth and the security of God's love, and yours—it creates a space for real transformation. If parenting feels upside-down sometimes, that's okay—following God's design often is upside-down compared to everything around us, and that's exactly what makes it powerful. Welcome to Upside-Down Parenting from Summit Ministries. Let's journey together.