04: "We're holding back the tide of darkness but that does not mean we're creating light." (ft. Norma Wong Roshi)

Join guest Norma Wong for a discussion of making love through aloha and activism. Norma Wong is a Zen Master, teacher of Mu-i Tai Ji Zen, and a former Hawai'i state legislator who calls all of us to a deeper practice of activism through aloha. The episode summary and its resources can be found here. Want to give a little love back to How To Make Love? Become a patreon of the podcast.