076: Using "Structure" to Reduce Anxiety and Keep the Kids Out of the Middle: Part 2 of 2 with Dr. Ben Garber

In this episode of the Children First Family Law Podcast, Krista Nash continues her conversation with Dr. Ben Garber, exploring how structure — in all its forms — serves as a foundation for children's emotional health during and after divorce. From consistent bedtimes to bulletproof parenting plans, Dr. Garber makes the case that structure isn't about control — it's about reducing anxiety and helping children feel safe in an uncertain world. Dr. Garber draws on more than 40 years of experience to address parents, co-parents, and family law professionals alike, using the framework of Russian nesting dolls to show how structure operates at every level of a family system. He also tackles the guilt-driven impulse to relax the rules during divorce — and why that instinct, however well-meaning, often backfires. In this episode, you will hear: Why structure reduces anxiety in children during and after divorce The guilt trap — and why relaxing rules during divorce often backfires How cooperative co-parents can operate with more flexibility, and why high-conflict parents need more rigid, court-imposed structure The "nesting doll" framework — how structure applies at every level, from individual self-care to the courtroom Self-care as structure — and why burned-out parents ultimately harm their kids What family law professionals and judges can do to build better outcomes through intentional structure Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.