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Do you do dubious advice? How are you doing John? I'm all right I'm proofreading right now or I'm like dealing with the proofreaders queries for Turtles all the way down my new book coming out October 10th available for pre-order now at probably sign turtles.com. So when people when you have it when there's something spelled wrong in your book they're like hey did you want to keep this spelled wrong or do you want to like have it be spelled right now?
That is one of the issues but it's also like should you capitalize the T in FaceTime is the issue then there's the big there's the big difficult questions like you know word choice questions between what is technically the correct word and the word that everyone says like which is better to pick in that situation and it really proofreading gets down to like those parts of grammar where you're forced to think about why grammar exists which is sort of interesting but also I've only had like three hours of sleep so it's a little exhausting right now. How are you? Good John do you know about 80 percenting? No what is 80 percenting?
80 percenting is the idea that the first 80 percent of the work is actually only 20 percent of the work and the last 20 percent is like 80 percent of the work so getting 80 percent of the way there is 20 percent and then the getting the last 20 percent is like 80 percent of the work and so what you should do is just forget about that last 20 percent and say hey look if there's a bunch of words spelled wrong in this book that's because I only wanted to get 80 percent of the way there I had other stuff to do I had to sleep I have children I have a podcast with my brother Hank I have to be sharp and I have to be good and funny and I'm not going to worry about whether FaceTime has a capital T. Well I'll tell you what Hank I 80 percent 99 percent of my professional life I 80 percent every vlog but there's video for the last eight years so just let me have this one thing that I spend a lot of time on I just make a video on 80 percenting and it should it should just end like 80 percent of the way through the stop no no no I'll see you on Tuesday just yeah that's a it's conceptually strong I don't know if I would actually enjoy watching it though oh John 101 episodes how are you feeling great couldn't be happier just a little bit tired due to the lack of the sleeping I think that I'm not gonna I will get some sleep once this book goes into production in mid-August but until then I'm just gonna be I'm just gonna be the little engine that could Hank would you like a short poem for today hey yes I would all right this this short poem is from Emily Bronte but it was published under her gnome de plume Ellis Bell and also I'm not gonna read the whole thing it was sent to me by a listener named Sylvia who suggested it because we always talk about that Emily Dickinson poem with hope is the thing with feathers and she wanted me to read this poem because it's much more negative about hope but I'm only gonna read the final stanza hope whose whisper would have given balm to all my friendsied pain stretched her wings and sword to heaven went and never returned again hope by Emily Bronte a story about hope leaving and never returning hope is the thing with feathers it flies away from you and does not come back that's right all right john we got a first question it's from Ben who asks dear Hank and mainly john where would I pre-order a paperback version of your book turtles all the way down that's coming out my girlfriend and I both greatly dislike hardcover books I like turtles Ben all right unfortunately I have bad news for Ben yeah I have bad news for Ben but then I also have more bad news for Ben the first piece of bad news is that my book turtles all the way down is not very deeply concerned with turtles it's like turtle free it's like like like how many like how many turtles are in the book john is it like just like a low low turtle book I would say it's not a no turtle book but it's definitely a low turtle book certainly for a high turtle book I actually have a recommendation yeah yeah which is rare but I do I have a good recommendation of a turtle heavy book it's called the people in the trees and it's by hanya yani gihara and it's very good so if you're looking for a turtle book check that one out however if you're looking to read my new book in paperback I would advise patience so the reason books come out in hardcover before they come out in paperback is there's a bunch of reasons but the main one is that hardcover books are more expensive and the royalties are better much much much better for authors so authors are usually in favor of hardcover is coming out before paperbacks one thing that you could do though is you could rip off the hardcover and then just kind of glue all the pages together and then put on your own softcover and that might suit your interests better but also I think hardcover books are beautiful and this book will be very beautiful I have seen some of the like comps for what it's going to look like I've seen a cover I've seen a cover but I've also seen the all the all the little detailed stuff that I really love in books the way they bind the books the quality of the paper all that stuff is really good like it's it's finally as in terms of a physical item it's finally the my like all of my dreams coming true so I'm sorry then but I also think that you're gonna like the physical book available for pre-order now at probably sign turtles dot com um I like the idea of just getting your exact and I found being like right that those things are gone it's about personal preference yeah um yeah yeah I won't be mad I mean the book belongs to you so do what you want with it but the paperback will eventually come out and I'm sorry that it's gonna take a while but I have worked very hard and and fought to make sure that the hardcover is relatively inexpensive in fact cheaper than lots of paperback novels coming out these days this question comes from Maya who writes Dear Green Brothers what would be the ecological effects if all mosquitoes died if there was a virus or something that eradicated all mosquitoes would ecosystems go to chaos or would we get along fine I'm asking because mosquitoes are the devil's spawn and also they spread diseases that kill a lot of people thanks for asking valor Margulis but mosquitoes first my nice mosquitoes yeah oh men must die but mostly I mean by men I mean I mean mosquitoes I yeah you know first of all it's not we don't have to kill all mosquitoes there's so many species of mosquitoes that aren't the ones that bug us that much and and there are only a few species of mosquitoes that transmit malaria and which is the biggest mosquito problem and then and so you really only have to like hit a couple of species for it to be a really big difference but I think for the most part we'd be okay like there's stuff that eats mosquitoes but those things eat other things too like this idea that like that all like the entire ecosystem is in balance and like everything has its place like ticks no no just they should all die they don't do anything useful that it's spread disease and suck blood like that like they work they function ecologically they do a just fine job but no yeah we could we could probably we could definitely get rid of the mosquitoes that are the worst offenders without any problems in fact we have tried and we continue to try and we have succeeded in some places yeah I mean there used to be a lot of malaria in North America and now there's none so there has been a lot of progress but we have a long long way to go there was actually an article in nature about this hank and it has a great I won't read you the whole article because like most articles in nature it's a bit of a difficult read but it's a great sub headline eradicating any organism would have serious consequences for ecosystems wouldn't it not when it comes to mosquitoes that's all you really need we've got a slideshow on it too if you want to watch that it's probably a little more penetrable than the nature article okay we have another question this one is one of those big difficult questions it comes from Ashley dear brother's green I was babysitting for a family I don't know very well and the baby took his first steps while I was there that's cute should I tell the parents Ashley oh man no definitely don't do that um what yeah no because you because like everybody's always like I don't know I I want to be there when Aaron takes his first steps and I might not be in and like I'll be bummed if I'm not so like just like who gets hurt by that lie of omission you don't have to be like well hey guys you're maybe definitely them technically take any steps while you're gone not a walker that one see I would argue that if anything you should lie in the other direction you should be like listen not only did your baby take his first steps he also said his first word and it was Ashley it was my name he looked me dead in the eyes and he said hello Ashley I love you more than I love my mother and that was all he said it was weird and then he was like and then he said I'm not only paying you twenty dollars an hour and that's crap don't accept it I'm worth so much more than that that's what he said that's all and then he stopped and he hasn't said anything since so I don't know let's just take take what you will from that walked all the way across the room told me he did not approve of my compensation package and then clamor back up anyway really a pleasure to babysit for your astonishingly verbal extremely mobile child yeah see you next time is it is it possible that I could get a some equity in this baby because I put a lot in this is a low percentage I don't know how does it work is that is that how you think babies were ranked that like you currently own 100% of orin's future earnings I don't know 100% of orin's future earnings but I definitely entitled to a percentage I look forward to the conversation that you have with orin when he enters the workforce no no it's not initial compensation it's only after I'm old and in the home when I expect him to contribute to the keep keep dad in diapers and and you know scientific American subscriptions wait you don't think our parents are expecting that to you you know I think I think it's gonna depend I nominate you as I do so often all right just to be clear though actually no no no no you should not tell the parents that you saw the baby take his first steps okay john's got john's come around and he's decided to unless you are directly asked yeah and then I guess maybe you have to say yes but even then probably not yeah john is abandoned the bit and he wants to make sure that you don't them this question comes from brie who asked dear hankajana recently started dating someone and everything's great he's super sweet he makes me laugh and have a great time when I'm with him but I recently found out that he has a not so tiny following online he's somewhat of a popular youtube person and he has a decent amount of twitter followers enough to where people notice and stop him when we're out and they want pictures I never wanted a life in the public eye and with the growing maliciousness of the youtube community I'm not sure that I could handle it how do I handle this budding relationship while also handling keeping myself out of the public eye if that is even possible completely lacking a sign off brie oh my surprise surprise youtube celebrity boyfriend yeah I mean I feel like that's a great question for our spouses because they both yeah unexpectedly developed to surprise youtube husbands well into the relationship yeah but at least with that there was a measure of um I don't know there was a little bit of buy-in like Sarah was in favor of Brotherhood 2.0 as a concept sure yeah it was like and it happened somewhat gradually it wasn't like I'm surprised there were lots of decisions along the way um that yeah that that were that they were involved in um that said it's hard yeah it's hard yeah I mean it's it's also weird because I don't like I don't think that you know traditional celebrity is the same necessarily and so like it's you're kind of an un-unmapped territory here so I don't know that anyone has particularly good advice for you except for people who have been in this exact position before but I will say that you know it when you talk about the maliciousness of the youtube community it isn't necessarily in that person's part of the community there are lots of areas of youtube that are like just kind and supportive and maybe are smaller but are big enough that people will still get recognized at the grocery store or whatever and that is a way that that fame has changed where you know 99% of people have no idea who your boyfriend is probably but 1% is a lot like you see more than 100 people if you go to the grocery store maybe not but at some grocery stores I feel like I do that place just is full of people and uh yeah so it might it might I think that it has to come down to the individual like situation um but um but also like that's a pretty it's not a cool thing like is that also kind of dope like is there also like opportunities that like neat things will happen that you wouldn't otherwise have happened where you get to have experiences and do things yeah I don't know I I think it depends on the person but I do think you have to be realistic that that you are yeah at least until the moment when that when the person you're dating starts talking about you online I think you're relatively anonymous after that you know there is an element of not being fully anonymous and to be honest this is something in a way Hank and I have never been through the worst part of because we've never had like a public breakup which is where I think it's really hard and where you do see some viciousness at times even in very supportive communities so I totally get the concern but I also think um until and unless you're explicitly mentioned I think you can kind of fly under the radar yeah there are certain kinds of youtube content that like ask for all that person's life to be laid out in front of everyone and and if you were in a relationship with one of those people you would know it like you would know from the beginning because the camera would be out of the time but a lot of people just like make videos that are about a certain thing and they aren't about their life and so you don't necessarily you don't have to be a part of their like public narrative right right um speaking of public narratives Hank I want to answer this question it comes from Rebecca who writes Dear John and Hank I love your podcast and it enriches my life Rebecca that is far too kind literally it is too kind uh about yeah our completely suboptimal podcast I'm quite the Beatles fan and the other day when I was listening to John Lennon's imagine my brother joined me and said it was a wonderful song but he didn't like the political message it was sending and something about communism my question is what political message does imagine send out and also can I continue enjoying it once I know the truth behind it thankful for any advice Rebecca well there's two questions here I also I'd say yeah I want to really keep on the lookout for my new youtube video the truth about John Lennon's imagine oh god oh god that is such a genre of youtube videos um there's two questions here one is can you enjoy art that you find politically reprehensible and the other question is is John Lennon's imagine a communist song and if so is that so bad um yeah I mean first of all even like I don't know that you can find that well I feel like that yeah I can I can definitely not enjoy content because of the message it sends yeah yes but you also I also think that like sometimes you can enjoy content despite the message it sends like I can I can like a song even if there are things in it that I find objectionable sure um the answer to is imagine a communist song is yeah yeah imagine no positions I wonder if you can no greed no need for greed or hunger a brotherhood of man that's pretty that's pretty lenony that's got that's got a lenony vibe nothing to kill or die for that's less lenony um there's lots of things to kill and die for if you're coming this Russia but they do say no religion to yeah um which is pretty that was like that feels whenever you know whenever I get that song I think about in the 60s saying like imagine no religion like whoa hold on there bucco that's a that's a danger time that you've entered but yeah uh people you know people heard and I think part of the message of imagine and what's nice about the song is that it isn't saying like hey there shouldn't be religion there shouldn't be possessions it's just saying let's question this let's look at it for a second and see what like where the thing is valuable and where it isn't and without saying like you know without without questioning it then you don't ever get a chance to really even appreciate the good things that might come from things so but in the end he does say you may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us uh in kind of saying all of these things I have asked you to imagine are things that I want to happen but yeah I mean it's pretty commie song but that doesn't mean it's not beautiful well also um it also doesn't mean that it's wrong like yeah I you know I don't know I don't I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get into ideology here I do want to point out that Hank is completely correct about the the difference about saying imagine no religion in 19 I'm gonna guess like 72 or 73 when I'm gonna guess that song came out versus today which is that then the vast majority of people in the United States at least did go to church every week and now it is fewer than 40% and well under 40% so yeah 70% of change 1971 John good good job thank you thank well I know when the Beatles broke up and unfortunately I know when John Lennon was assassinated so I knew it was somewhere in there um let's uh move on to another question Hank this is another one I really wanted to answer today all right it comes from Peter who writes Dear John and Hank I'm a teenage boy who is a longtime fan of the pod and I have a conundrum I'm very interested in knitting however I am scared that if I try to learn how to knit I will be judged as a wuss or a sissy how do I solve this problem the jaws of death will involve you Peter well Peter you've already got the sign off thing figured out and that's great um you I don't think that there's nothing you could do here if you're interested in a thing and you're worried about what people are gonna think about you you either don't do the thing because the the fear is too great or you do it and you deal with it and you look at those people and you think why are you so silly this is like what about this particular activity which by the way involves giant like basic weapons that sometimes TSA won't even let you bring on plane how is this how is this in particular like what happened in society that this is a thing that is supposed to be feminine when like clearly it has no gender right yeah I mean but it is it it is also hard when you are a teenager sure to stand up to gender constructions and to stand up to those messages that tell you that you're going to be less of a person worth valuing if you do this or do that that said it is awesome it is courageous and it makes the world better and it makes your life better in the long run so I uh I encourage you to knit knit like a mofo just charizard that mofo to go all the way back to the game this podcast I hope I hope you find it man I hope you find the will to knit I think that will be awesome and I think you also got to recognize that what's going to happen to you is what happens to 95 percent of knitters is like you figure it out and you start doing it and it's like oh yeah okay I get it I don't really need to make sweaters for the rest of my life I don't know actually you might not find that you might find that it's super fun and challenging and interesting that's what that's what happens that's what happens to most people just having watched my my friends go through their knitting craze but also that doesn't necessarily mean that's not gonna come back later you have a skill that's always there ready for you to apply it uh you know especially post apocalypse like making a making like useful things out of strings is definitely a good thing to be able to do great point hang yeah great point that reminds me in fact that today's podcast is brought to you by knitting knitting an amazing post-apocalyptic talent oh so good this podcast is also brought to you by turtle books books about turtles they're books with high quantities of turtles uh they recommend a daily value uh completely satisfied 150 percent uh of turtles but that which is not john's book turtles all the way down uh today's podcast is also brought to you by nothing to kill or die for wouldn't that be nice are you listening anything on all right now john I'm listening uh to jane austin's persuasion oh look at that yeah that's available it's good i'm listening right now to uh the second book in the expanse series a calibans war by james sa cori which is so good the book the first one is also very good and i love i love like i when i'm listening to a series of books i love like sticking like that it sticks with the same narrator and i get this feeling that like the uh the harry bosh series by michael connley is like that where he is so i get so connected with the narrator and his voice for telling the story um i also uh i love that and uh and yeah the expanse series is fantastic the show is great and uh and the books are great and there's way more of the books than there is of the show so you can be in the world longer which is exciting for me and i just finished the immortal life of henry at a lax which also was fantastically read and uh and very super freaking interesting everybody i've been told over and over and over again that i need to read this book and i kind of sometimes i have a hard time reading nonfiction on paper um but this was like such a good cohesive story that kept driving through it um and like kept me wanting to listen to the next chapter uh that i was really glad i listened to it as an audiobook yeah i uh i loved that book i read it with with words but uh i'm sure the audiobook was good okay let's go back to answering questions thank this question comes from allison who writes dear john and heck i'm moving out of my parents house bachelor degree in hand to a new state bermingham alabama actually you may know a thing or two about that place hank was born there i lived there for a long time in the process of coming into my own adventuring out into this grown-up world i've discovered that furniture is heckin expensive hundreds of dollars for a chair question mark question mark i've also realized that i'm vastly unprepared for this i don't know how taxes work i don't know how to set up wifi at my house i'm curious what were some of the things that you were blindsided by slash not expecting when you became real adults also if you have advice about moving to a new state i'm all ears later vader allison i gotta say the cost of furniture continues to shock me oh man i remember when i bought my first couch with sarah because before that i'd only ever purchased couches at garage sales and stuff yeah yeah and i when we moved to new york we bought a couch and i was in jennifer convertibles to buy this couch and first off i was like sarah why are we at this fancy furniture store and she was like this is literally the cheapest furniture store that i would ever enter and i was like okay and then secondly i was like can someone explain to me why this couch is nine hundred dollars like i still think like nine hundred dollars like what what does it do does it turn into a bed yes as it happens it did but still does it turn into a car yeah like you get a car a car for nine hundred dollars cars have like one couch and two chairs inside of them and you can sometimes find a used one that runs for just over nine hundred dollars so really it is insane how expensive furniture is on the other hand a lot of work goes into making them etc etc yeah i'd rather move around but what i will say is like like what sometimes you don't realize is like living in your parents house it took them decades to collect all the furniture they have they didn't start out and like buy it all at once they probably had not so much furniture at all and probably you know had a bunch that they got at thrift stores or garage sales and then slowly got rid of the crappy things and replaced them with good things and uh and it's important to know that you like not only can't you but you should not uh suddenly go into twenty thousand dollars of credit card debt furnishing at home and yeah well i don't think i just want to interrupt you real quickly and say that you imply that the stuff that you get at garage sales isn't good and i would like to say oh it's fine still have one of my garage sale couches and it remains in some ways it is certainly not our most physically attractive couch but i would argue it is our most comfortable couch yeah um rugs are also something that really shocked me and it's like this is a thing that i step on i just walk on this all day long why is this why is this so expensive why am i gonna say require so much work to create that's expensive yeah it makes sense but yeah i i'm like well no rugs for me for a while um and setting up wifi you can do it paying taxes you can do it but it's harder than setting up wifi i don't know they're both very hard i mean i remember i have a vivid memory of like setting up we didn't have wifi back then have i ever told the story about when uh you have my roommate came home with wifi yeah are you sure i have you have on the pie are you totally positive i'm like i'm like 98 percent sure i'm gonna tell it again so my roommate shannon came home with a computer with wifi and she was like look no cords no cables and anywhere within 50 feet of this machine that i bought that was a wireless router i can get access to the internet and i said jokes on you shannon because i have a 100 foot ethernet cord i'm glad that you left it my jokes despite having heard it literally four thousand times probably not the third it's at least not the third uh anyway the jokes on shannon because i figured out that wireless was a complete scam if you just own a 100 foot ethernet cord and to this day i refused to get computers with wireless just getting um i wasn't clearly wrong about that so it is a pain to like set up all of that stuff but you also have to remember allison that you're setting stuff up and then once it's set up it works well until it stops working i what i want allison to know is that like you got to figure stuff out that's that's that's what it's what it told it is it's like i don't know how to do this and it's like oh okay well i'll just do it i will say do not do not put washing uh like washing machine like clothes washing stuff into the dishwasher that's a bad idea what yeah or the other way around don't do it either way the dishwasher has the it's stuff and the the clothes washer has it's stuff and they are not the same they are not the same and do not put hot oil into a milk jug is another thing to not do that's a good one i'll give you one that i learned the hard way when i was 23 sometimes you want to eat a frozen pizza and you put it in the micro you put it in the oven at 450 degrees for 18 minutes and then about like four minutes after you start cooking the pizza you want to go bowling and so you go bowling and you're a bit of an obsessive bowler so you bowl by yourself for three and a half hours when you come home first off you're going to be so happy that the whole house didn't burn down but secondly you're going to have some really annoyed roommates oh my goodness oh my god it's burning it actually was burning john it happened to you not a great decision by me which shout out to all the people who are cooking while they listen to deer hand and john make sure that you set your timer and that it's loud enough to get through your earbuds all right i got one last question for you john says dear brothers from rj do power plants produce their own electricity how is a power plant turned on if it produces its own power do other power plants pay to use electricity do power plants have to pay to use electricity these are the questions i need answer to i have no use for these answers rj i need answers to these questions by which i mean i don't need answers to these questions well i think i think a power plant's just like any other building like the power goes out of the power plant it goes to the place where all the power goes and gets shifted around and joins up on the grid and then it comes back so yeah like if you turn off the like you got to make it so that if you turn off the power plant it still has power somehow you don't like all the computers and tv tv's because they're watching sports i guess and lights to turn off just because the power plant needs maintenance so you're uh you're on the grid like nobody else and yeah you got to pay for power even if you're power plant even if you're throwing it off like more than you could ever possibly use you just tap into the grid like anybody else well that's that's interesting i'm glad i learned that hey before we get to the news from ours and a fc whimbled and i want to read uh one quick correction that came in from eliot who had a bunch of issues with the way we talked about how we know climate change is real in that um in that discussion hank we both said that you have to rely on experts and the only way to know as much as a climate scientist does about climate is to be a climate scientist eliot broadly agreed with this but he also pointed out that the nature of science is for it to be open and available for people to explore and to question and to use uh the scientific method to come to better understand which i think is an important point and also he said that it is actually not that complicated to prove uh to people that we know that humans are causing the earth to get hotter so i'm just going to read his explanation because i thought it was good people put tons of effort into measuring humanities greenhouse emissions and it lines up reasonably well with similarly large efforts to measure atmospheric carbon worldwide here's a nasa visualization which we will put on the patreon it's a pretty straightforward pretty straightforward physical model say that this will cause climate change so it's hard to see how it wouldn't affect global temperatures and importantly those human emissions are literally the only known factor that remotely explains the rising temperatures that we see so there you go um hank yes john did anything happen on a cold dead rock millions of miles from earth yesterday no uh but you'll yes many things happened on on mars yesterday and other cold dead rocks as well um had had things happen to them but uh the thing the thing that uh i'm going to talk about is not that not actually happen on mars it happened here on earth so john you know that they're working on a they're working on a new launch system to get heavier bigger stuff farther and faster than ever before and so we've got this engine that's going to take us hopefully if if all if all works out as planned and uh you know we don't need to start knitting our own shirts to mars there's uh in this engine uh you may have heard of it john it's called the rs 25 and when i say you've heard of it you probably haven't heard it called that but it's just the same engine that they used on the space show they had three of them on the main engine of the space shuttle and uh it burns liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen to create water and it throws off a tremendous amount of uh hot gas and that exits very quickly from the nozzle 13 times the speed of sound so if it kept going that fast it would go from los angeles to new york in about 15 minutes luckily it doesn't or else that would be a problem but it basically it's a huge engine it's about the size of like a like a Honda fit and it has these four extremely fast turbo pumps and uh it's a reliable thing we've never had significant problems with them um and we know how they work really well because we use them for a long time in the space shuttle and instead of having three of them the space launch system will have four of them and they've actually changed the controller a little bit the kind of brain that operates how how the engine works how much gas is going through it and how the valves and pumps and things are going change that a little bit so that it actually uh produces about 10 percent more thrust than they did when they were used in the space shuttle and uh we were doing our first uh tests of of that new control system for the sls or maybe not our first but they're doing they're testing it right now actively the RS-25 engine and if you want to watch a video of that i'll throw that one on the patreon as well because man is it impressive they put it in this building i just love it they're like put it in this building and then the building has to be anchored into the ground super hard usually the problem you have is that like you don't want a building to like you're fighting against gravity but this building has to fight against this engine that's trying to lift it into space so uh there's this giant engine that has to channel the the gases as it's exiting the engine out um but it's just very impressive and it runs for a very long time like about eight minutes uh which does not seem like a long time until it is a giant engine that produces just massive massive amounts of thrust so we're working on that um and uh and doing testing of it right now wow that sounds pretty exciting actually cool thing yeah rocket science john well uh the news from afc Wimbledon is not rocket science as they say um in fact just moments ago afc Wimbledon wrapped up one of their final friendlies before the uh soccer season officially starts against scuntorpe on august 5th so it is the end of our long international nightmare hank finally at last we are returning to regular soccer however just played alder shot down in a pre-season friendly alder shot town currently playing in the fifth tier of english soccer so not in the football league not a team in the football league however um we did not lose to them we also did not beat them it was a one one draw and our new goalkeeper mik donnell had a very good game which on the upside means that he might be very good on the downside that means that there were a lot of chances for alder shot down um so he made some very good uh good saves and that is the news i just we just have to hope that the pre-season has been mixed results i would say um and i think we have to have the ambition and the hope that the betting markets are right so the betting markets hank have afc Wimbledon finishing 17thish um and that would that would suit my interest just fine because i love sponsoring a third tier english soccer team and it is my ambition to continue sponsoring one until one day they have a brand new stadium and maybe uh with with some luck and some investment can become a second tier english soccer team i mean that that i mean john don't you want them to be a first tier english soccer team i do uh that would be great and certainly all things are possible but there would have to be some kind of collapse in the british economy that i don't want to root for um because right now the pre-mill league teams can spend like an actual hundred million dollars every summer um so it seems pretty far away uh for afc Wimbledon to be spending that kind of money but life is full of surprises and certainly who could have guessed that uh they would be uh promoted six times in there uh since being reborn so anything is possible i'm going to keep my fingers crossed but in the meantime we're not losing to alder shot town which is also something i mean could you have since since they did so well could you like recruit a couple alder shot town players maybe so you have some question some players i was watching uh jamaica with the united states of the gold cup and the jamaican keeper was unfortunately injured and so they had to bring in their backup keeper it was a 30 year old uh playing in the second tier of sweeten and i was watching the second tier swedish gold keeper and he was making some really good saves and i did think you know i have Neil Ardeley's phone number i could text him i got yeah because i'm sure nobody else is watching that game yeah well actually it is possible that i was the only person i don't know i have no idea thank what have we learned oh john we learned that cars have like a couch and two chairs in them so why do i have to pay so much for couches and chairs we also learned uh that lying to your babysitting clients is sometimes the right thing to do uh absolutely hundred percent and we learned that you got it you got to kill all those mosquitoes so if you see a mosquito kill a mosquito do not worry about the ecological consequences and maybe if we all just work together we can get them all which we definitely can't yeah i was going to say i don't i mean if we work together like as a species increase uh you know dramatically increase funding for anti-malarial efforts maybe but i think just by smashing them one at a time probably not um and lastly we learned that turtles all the way down does not have that many actual turtles in it it is a low turtle book john mostly of metaphor hey thanks john for podcasting with me thanks people my pleasure who listened and sent in questions if you would like to send in questions you could do that it hanken john at gmail.com uh john you're on twitter i am sometimes at twitter.com.com.com.com.com john green i am on twitter at twitter.com.com. hanken john is produced by rosian halls rahals and sherrod and gipson our editors nicholas jankins and jorner's head of community and communications our music is by the great gunerola hank we are now going to go record our extra podcast for patreon uh this week and ryan's uh which you can find out more about over at patreon.com.com. dyrhanken john thanks again for listening and as we say in our hometown don't forget to be awesome