EPISODE · Apr 3, 2026 · 1H 10M
12 Years Sober: Returning to Yourself
from Needed to Hear That! · host Pondoff's Anonymous Network, Chaz Franke, Chris Pondoff
Some commitments are loud, but the ones that change us most are often quiet. In this conversation, Chaz and Chris reflect on sobriety, grace, and the small daily choices that keep us pointed toward the life we want to live. What unfolds is a grounded look at how real change happens—not through perfection or speed, but through ordinary acts of returning, again and again, to what matters most.They explore self-care beyond the buzzword, talking honestly about burnout, community, spiritual practice, shame, and the long process of learning what it actually feels like to be yourself. This episode is a reminder that healing is rarely a straight line, and that recommitment is not failure—it is often the deepest form of courage.00:00 Celebrating Commitment: A Journey of Sobriety05:48 The Nature of Commitment: Grace and Action12:29 Crawling Before Running: The Importance of Small Steps18:40 Self-Care: A Commitment to Understanding Yourself24:07 The Power of Incremental Change: Building Resilience30:23 Finding Joy: Rediscovering What Makes You Happy37:39 Exploring Movement and Self-Connection40:06 The Importance of Community and Trying New Things43:40 Spiritual Practices and Their Accessibility45:50 The Healing Power of Returning to Self56:23 Recommitment and Overcoming Shame01:01:20 The Challenge of Committing to Less01:07:22 Finding Simplicity in Self-CareThanks to our sponsors, McKelvey Insurance — https://www.mckelveyins.comand LightSource Psychotherapy — https://www.findyourlightsource.com
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