13.3 - Sukkah Daf 15 A (19 lines Up)

Today’s learning sponsored by Sponsor a day's learning (thousands of minutes!) for only $72 click here https://www.flipcause.com/secure/cause_pdetails/ODUwOTU According to Rabbi Yehuda, Beis Shammai holds there is ‘gezeiras tikrah’ in using boards as schach. According to Beis Hillel, the only issue is ‘taaseh v’lo min ha’asuy’. Rabbi Meir holds there is ‘gezeiras tikrah’ in using boards as schach. Challenge: In 12.3 the mishnah already records a debate between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Meir. Rabbi Meir holds that there is a ‘gezeiras tikrah’ while Rabbi Yehuda disagrees. Why the repetition? Summary Resolution: This mishna is a continuation of the previous mishna. Rabbi Yehuda is telling Rabbi Meir that his position is in fact the position of Beis Shammai. Rabbi Meir responds that Beis Shammai and Beis Hillel do not argue on this issue. We learned in the mishna 12.3 According to Rabbi Yehuda, boards can be used for schach and according to Rabbi Meir, they cannot. Rav explained that Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Yehuda argue about a board that is 4 tefachim wide. If the board is less than 4 tefachim wide, Rabbi Meir agrees that it is kosher. Shmuel explained that Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Yehuda argue about a board that is less than 4 tefachim wide. If the board is 4 tefachim wide, everyone agrees that it is not kosher. Challenge: According to Rav, since a wide board can be used for schach, we understand the discussion of our mishna. But according to Shmuel, wide boards can never be used for schach, so how does he explain the mishna? Resolution: Everyone agrees that there is a gezeiras tikrah. The discussion here is ‘bittul tikrah’. Here the boards do not resemble a ceiling. The discussion is about how to annul an existing ceiling. Mishna: If one covers his sukkah with iron rods or the long boards of his bed. If there is space - equal in width to that of the rods or bed boards - between them [covered with kosher schach ], it is kosher. If one hollows out a haystack to make it a sukkah , it is not a sukkah [because of ‘taaseh v’lo min ha’asuy’ (10.4)]. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate