*13.6 Makkos Daf 09 B (8 lines before spreads)*

*13.6 Makkos Daf 09 B (8 lines before spreads)*_*Suggestion:* Before listening to the recording take a minute and review yesterday’s gemara. It will help to lock it in in your mind, and today’s gemara will flow better!_*Summary**Beraisa:* The _possuk_ says:*“He* [killed inadvertently and] *didn’t see* [what his actions caused]”*Rabbi Yehuda:* This _possuk_ *excludes a blind man* [ordinarily he does see].*Rabbi Meir:* This possuk *includes a blind man* [who doesn’t see].*Question:* What is the reasoning behind this argument?*The _possuk_ begins with the inclusive statement* “If one enters the forest” this seems to include blind men as well. The later statement “He didn’t see” excludes one who does not usually see. *This is Rabbi Yehuda’s reasoning.**Rabbi Meir* says that “He didn’t see” alone would indeed exclude blind men, but the _possuk_ adds another exclusion: *“He had no knowledge”.* We have a principle that two exclusions are in fact intended to exclude the exclusion; *a double negative is a positive.**What does Rabbi Yehuda answer to that?*“He had no knowledge” *excludes someone who killed ‘with intention* ’ (10.2, 10.3).We learned in the Mishna that according to Rabbi Yosi: *a _sonei_ is put to death.**Question: He wasn’t warned?* How can he be put to death without _hasra’ah_ ?Our mishna records *the opinion of Rabbi Yosi bar Yehuda (8.6):**Beraisa: Rabbi Yosi bar Yehuda: A _chaver_* (a lamdan) *does not require _hasra’ah_* because he is considered forewarned. *_Hasra’ah_ is only necessary to distinguish between shogeig and _meizid._*_(The other tannaim hold that hasra’ah is necessary as the criminal’s acceptance of his punishment, knowledge of the punishment is not enough, an affirmation is necessary)._ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate