#15: Patrick McKenzie (patio11) on Selling Software

What this episode covers

Ian and Andrey are joined by special guest, Patrick McKenzie (patio11), to discuss the “early” days of the Business of Software forums, Patrick’s journey and daily routine, Helpdesk systems and support, Appointment Reminder, systemizing and automating daily tasks, SaaS, B2C vs. B2B, pricing of software, consulting, learning from Blackhats, Hacker News, marketing, Uberdeck, making money from open source, dual-licensing, running a conference, hacker meetups, Patrick’s biggest mistake in business, Patrick’s next product, and Facebook games.Special guest Patrick McKenzie (patio11) of Kalzumeus.Business of Software Forums – Joel on Software.Bingo Card Creator – Patrick’s first product.Appointment Reminder – Patrick’s second product.Helpspot – Ian’s first product.Snappy – Ian’s latest product.Antair Spam Filter – One of Andrey’s first products.Uberdeck – Andrey’s latest productAndy Brice, and his Perfect Table Plan product.Jon B and his ViEmu, vi emulator for Visual Studio.Gavin BowmanMichael PryorKalzumeus PodcastTeach for AmericaHacker NewsRuben Gamez, founder of Bidsketch30×500, by Amy HoyMicropreneur AcademyMarco ArmentLaravelLaravel: From Apprentice to Artisan, by Taylor OtwellPaint.netBinpressRails Long Term SupportGail Goodman talk from Business of Software 2012Patrick’s Email ListPeldi, Balsamiq MockupsVisual Website Optimizer

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