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162: Birth, Death & Marriage: The Rituals We've Forgotten | Stephen Jenkinson
from Reclamation Radio with Kelly Brogan MD · host Kelly Brogan MD
Get instant access to Kelly's Beauty Backroom event here.Matrimony and weddings are not what society made us believe.Stephen Jenkinson is a Harvard-trained theologian, author, and founder of the Orphan Wisdom School, whose work has spanned dying, elderhood, storytelling, and now matrimony.Most modern weddings last fifteen minutes. He spent close to a year preparing each one he officiated, and the ceremony itself ran six to eight hours.He didn't set out to study marriage. Young people came to him asking for something they couldn't name… nothing that sounded like a top-40 song or looked like a fairy tale. He started paying attention to the strange shards still left in the standard wedding: the aisle no one sits in, the procession, the throwing of food, the giving away.What he found changes the conversation. Matrimony, he argues, has nothing to do with celebrating love between two people. It's about mothering culture, and patrimony is its structural counterpart. One builds the house, the other moves in and makes it a home for the wider world.This episode goes into what a real wedding looks like when guests become witnesses, why the personal vow may be the weakest part of the ceremony, what patriarchy actually means before it became a slur, and why "celebration of love" may be the phrase that hollowed the whole thing out.You’ll learn:[00:00] Introduction[02:10] How young people pleading for a real wedding pulled Stephen into matrimony work [09:23] Treating wedding traditions like archaeological shards reveals what we've lost [18:40] The nuclear family became the default after Christianity dismantled elders and kinship [28:12] The difference between wedding, marriage, and matrimony… and why patrimony has no holy state [38:59] Reclaiming the word patriarchy from sloth and virtue signalling [48:38] Why "celebration of love" turns guests into spectators instead of witnesses [59:36] What a six to eight hour ceremony with reversed seating and real petitions looks like [1:22:23] What a couple planning a wedding should consider before the big day👉🏻 Want to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.Resources mentioned:Once in Europa by John Berger | BookGet Stephen's book Matrimony: Ritual, Culture, and the Heart’s Work here.Find more from Stephen:Orphan Wisdom | Website | Instagram | FacebookFind more from Kelly:YouTube: Reclamation Radio with Kelly Brogan, MDInstagram: @kellybroganmdWebsite: kellybroganmd.comJoin Kelly's monthly membership, Vital Life Project here.Get Kelly’s new book The Reclaimed Woman here. Click here to schedule your call with Josh or Ken today.
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Get instant access to Kelly's Beauty Backroom event here.Matrimony and weddings are not what society made us believe.Stephen Jenkinson is a Harvard-trained theologian, author, and founder of the Orphan Wisdom School, whose work has spanned dying, elderhood, storytelling, and now matrimony.Most modern weddings last fifteen minutes. He spent close to a year preparing each one he officiated, and the ceremony itself ran six to eight hours.He didn't set out to study marriage. Young people came to him asking for something they couldn't name… nothing that sounded like a top-40 song or looked like a fairy tale. He started paying attention to the strange shards still left in the standard wedding: the aisle no one sits in, the procession, the throwing of food, the giving away.What he found changes the conversation. Matrimony, he argues, has nothing to do with celebrating love between two people. It's about mothering culture, and patrimony is its structural counterpart. One builds the house, the other moves in and makes it a home for the wider world.This episode goes into what a real wedding looks like when guests become witnesses, why the personal vow may be the weakest part of the ceremony, what patriarchy actually means before it became a slur, and why "celebration of love" may be the phrase that hollowed the whole thing out.You’ll learn:[00:00] Introduction[02:10] How young people pleading for a real wedding pulled Stephen into matrimony work [09:23] Treating wedding traditions like archaeological shards reveals what we've lost [18:40] The nuclear family became the default after Christianity dismantled elders and kinship [28:12] The difference between wedding, marriage, and matrimony… and why patrimony has no holy state [38:59] Reclaiming the word patriarchy from sloth and virtue signalling [48:38] Why "celebration of love" turns guests into spectators instead of witnesses [59:36] What a six to eight hour ceremony with reversed seating and real petitions looks like [1:22:23] What a couple planning a wedding should consider before the big day👉🏻 Want to start a podcast like this one? Book your free podcast planning call here.Resources mentioned:Once in Europa by John Berger | BookGet Stephen's book Matrimony: Ritual, Culture, and the Heart’s Work here.Find more from Stephen:Orphan Wisdom | Website | Instagram | FacebookFind more from Kelly:YouTube: Reclamation Radio with Kelly Brogan, MDInstagram: @kellybroganmdWebsite: kellybroganmd.comJoin Kelly's monthly membership, Vital Life Project here.Get Kelly’s new book The Reclaimed Woman here. Click here to schedule your call with Josh or Ken today.
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