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EPISODE · Dec 26, 2025 · 1H 34M

162 - Vladimir Leshko: You Will Live Forever If You Choose To

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Longevity, Gene Therapy, Unlimited Bio, Próspera, Regulation, AI, Biohacking, Philosophy, Morality, Spirituality. - Timothy Allen speaks with biomedical engineer Vladimir Leshko about gene therapy, longevity, and why Próspera’s regulatory environment makes human trials possible that are effectively blocked elsewhere. Leshko explains how gene therapy works, why aging is a biological process rather than an inevitability, and explores the ethical, spiritual, and existential implications of choosing radically extended life in an age of AI and abundance. Enjoy the conversation. - SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities - Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property. - Previous interviews with Patrick Hiebert, Founder of Veritas Villages: EP 156: https://fountain.fm/episode/66NqAclTBh7FByIX7lCq EP 107: https://fountain.fm/episode/Fh6uGwZvVtPsYsR53pTI - All the Podcast Links: https://linktr.ee/FreeCitiesPodcast Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0 Free Cities Conference: https://freecitiesconference.com/ Free Cities Foundation Newsletter: https://free-cities.org/subscribe Conference Guide to Prague: https://tinyurl.com/FreeCitiesPragueGuide - DONATE Bitcoin to the Free Cities Podcast: bc1q5jun0nzxzqepch84rqk0jnv0rd8uvns28df7mg - Podcasting apps that support Value 4 Value Bitcoin payments: https://podcastindex.org/apps?appTypes=app - TIMESTAMPS (Audio Version Only) 0:00:30 – Introduction to Episode 0:05:55 – Start of Conversation 0:07:33 – Why Unlimited Bio chose Próspera 0:09:44 – Próspera’s three regulatory tracks explained 0:12:16 – Insurance and why the “do anything” meme in Próspera is wrong 0:13:23 – Gene therapy fear factor: “Frankenstein” intuitions and what it actually is 0:14:07 – Why gene therapy matters: inherited disease, and Vladimir's son’s deafness story 0:18:16 – Embryo editing, embryo selection, and what is (not) possible today 0:19:05 – How gene therapy works in practice: adding corrected DNA without editing the original 0:21:40 – Netherlands vs Próspera, and the clinic partnership model 0:22:16 – The therapy “menu”: VGF now, follistatin next (and what they do) 0:26:44 – Is aging “designed” by evolution, or a side effect evolution ignored? 0:29:52 – Naked mole rats, turtles, and species that seem to “escape” aging 0:43:31 – Near-death experience, psychedelics, and the existential side of living forever 1:10:42 – AI abundance, meaning, and why humans may have to self-impose challenges 1:30:23 – The “mystical scientific problem” of aging - NOSTR: Timothy Allen: npub1gcf9ltaeu42f4tr20z3avkas04dezlx3jaudqsuu87gvmh686xasrvqjg0 Free Cities Foundation: npub1lsj8pmgedqqamt89c27tzjjnlf0wn7q7udjm7j2cl9xxz97eacns2mwpee - LEGACY SOCIAL MEDIA: Vladimir Leshko: https://x.com/vladileshko Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound - OTHER LINKS: Unlimited Bio: https://unlimited.bio/ Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/ Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

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