[173 ] Breakdown or Breakthru - Jung at Harp #173 - 051025

Tune in for a deep conversation about creativity, psychology, and artistic growth!" What does it mean to break down… or break through? In this powerful episode of Jung at Harp, Deborah Henson-Conant and Kathleen Wiley explore how breakdowns can actually lead to deep creative transformation. They reflect on the metaphor of the caterpillar turning into a butterfly — dissolving one identity to emerge as something new. Using stories, musical examples, and personal experiences, they talk about how structure, community, and intention help artists and creators expand into their full creative selves. This episode invites listeners to think about how creativity and breakdowns are deeply connected—and how safe, playful spaces can help us grow through challenge. Whether you're an artist, musician, or simply seeking creative clarity, this conversation helps you see how struggle can become fuel for breakthrough. Disclaimer: Minor audio dropouts occur in this episode, but the conversation remains clear and inspiring.