EPISODE · Dec 12, 2025 · 59 MIN
177: What's Actually Happening In An Avoidant's Brain When They Pull Away W/ Chris Lee
from The Sabrina Zohar Show · host The Sabrina Zohar Show
Neuroscientist Chris Lee joins me to break down what’s really happening in the brain when someone pulls away, shuts down, or spirals. We cover avoidance as a regulation strategy, why anxious activation hits so hard, and how state–story–strategy explains your patterns better than any TikTok soundbite. If you struggle with mixed signals, overthinking, or reacting fast in dating, this episode gives you clear, science-backed answers. We also get into emotional availability, communication during conflict, and how to create safety without overfunctioning. You’ll learn how to recognize your patterns, rebuild trust in yourself, and stop taking someone else’s regulation personally. Whether you’re dating or partnered, this conversation helps you understand connection with far more clarity. Learn more: https://www.drchrislee.com/ If you’re ready to slow down, trust your instincts, and break your old dating patterns, the Healthy Relationship Foundations Course walks you through it step-by-step HERE!Get Ad free HERE!Want to work with Sabrina? HERE!Get merch for The Sabrina Zohar Show HERE!Don't forget to follow Sabrina and The Sabrina Zohar Show on Instagram and Sabrina on TikTok! Video now available on YOUTUBE! Disclaimer: The Sabrina Zohar Show, formerly known as Do The Work, is not affiliated with A.Z & associates LLC in any capacity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
What this episode covers
Neuroscientist Chris Lee joins me to break down what’s really happening in the brain when someone pulls away, shuts down, or spirals. We cover avoidance as a regulation strategy, why anxious activation hits so hard, and how state–story–strategy explains your patterns better than any TikTok soundbite. If you struggle with mixed signals, overthinking, or reacting fast in dating, this episode gives you clear, science-backed answers. We also get into emotional availability, communication during conflict, and how to create safety without overfunctioning. You’ll learn how to recognize your patterns, rebuild trust in yourself, and stop taking someone else’s regulation personally. Whether you’re dating or partnered, this conversation helps you understand connection with far more clarity. Learn more: https://www.drchrislee.com/ If you’re ready to slow down, trust your instincts, and break your old dating patterns, the Healthy Relationship Foundations Course walks you through it step-by-step HERE!Get Ad free HERE!Want to work with Sabrina? HERE!Get merch for The Sabrina Zohar Show HERE!Don't forget to follow Sabrina and The Sabrina Zohar Show on Instagram and Sabrina on TikTok! Video now available on YOUTUBE! Disclaimer: The Sabrina Zohar Show, formerly known as Do The Work, is not affiliated with A.Z & associates LLC in any capacity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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