197. You're not really shy, you just learned it was safer to stay quiet - a convo with Jess Kovic

JESS KOVIC. YESSSS. This convo was so good :')Jess is an artist, certified life coach, brainspotting practitioner, and founder of The Expresserie -- a coaching practice dedicated to self-expression. she works with creative women who've been through hard things that left them feeling frozen, but who desperately want an outlet for their voice and their art. in this episode, we follow the origin story of the shy girl -- how a sensitive, loud, expressive little kid can get slowly taught to go quiet....to be the peacemaker...to shrink so nobody else has to feel uncomfortable. In this ep we talk about:— the perfectionism-peacemaker pipeline (this is so real and relatable. Jess articulates this so well from lived experience)— why the creative ache WILL NOT LEAVE YOU ALONE and what that's actually asking of you :)— "feeling like you're gonna die and doing it anyway" as a legitimate path to self-expression hehe— the edge you keep numbing out -- and why the edge is exactly where you create from— how brainspotting bypasses all the talking and gets straight to the stuff you can't think your way out of— singing in an all-women's chorus as a portal to healingand moreeeeethis episode is for anyone who has ever identified as shy, introverted, the quiet one --whether that label was given to you or you grabbed it for survival. Jess is someone who truly WALKS HER TALK and this conversation is packed with so much wisdom and warmth. ENJOI 🖤you can find Jess at:📸 IG: https://www.instagram.com/theexpresserie/come to her class this Friday - March 19th, 2026 at 4pm PST - SAY THE THING: You're not really shy, you just learned it was safer to stay quiet https://www.theexpresserie.com/store/p/say-the-thing-workshopFind all her other links and what she's up to here: https://linktr.ee/jesskovic?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=2d23c7e1-d459-4bd0-b603-efc3b80ff3a0