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EPISODE · May 16, 2026 · 17 MIN

2. Conditioning of Shame

from Second Start · host Tennessee Le Du

In this first solo episode, I talk about a book: Perfect Pain / Perfect Shame: A Journey into Radical Presence, by the psychologist Jerry Duvinsky.Drawing on the book, I am talking about what shame really is, how it seeds itself in childhood, through what is said and through what is not said and done. And the paradox, which is that trying to control or eliminate shame reinforces it.Along the way, the work of neuropsychologist Allan Schore on how shame is physiologically imprinted in early attachment, the cumulative weight of small messages over a lifetime, and the surprising forms shame can take in adulthood.📖 Book referenced:Perfect Pain / Perfect Shame: A Journey into Radical Presence, Jerry Duvinsky, PhD (2017, self-published)

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