When I was a young man, I could write a book from he was not alone I came to Flash, but since I was young, he died in pain. And I learned about the English family and their family. And I was the only one who told me about being alone. But I was an average age, who was the only school in the world, but I was she...
So you had to help me, not to attack me? Are you sure of that? I'm not sure of that, because I am a profit warrior. Sometimes attacking people can be a good way for them to reveal themselves.
As a moment, I'm afraid to have enemies. I need supporters, I need followers, I need consultants. Then I will do my best to consult you. I don't feel that you are my enemy now.
Do you feel that I am your enemy? I don't know. Could we have two profit in the same room? That I think we will find out now.
So you doubt that I'm a profit. That's what I feel from my work. I doubt almost anything. Everything.
This is my gospel. This is a good trick, but I can tell you, we, if you say the word doubt, there are two levels of doubt. The doubt that you have to everything, and another level of doubt. What is your relationship to your asshole?
For me, I am. It's a long time ago. It has been with you since birth. Sure, I am.
It's a long time ago that I was thinking about my asshole. I really... But you have a relationship to it? Sure.
And what is your relationship to this excrement? Poop, shit. For me, the occasion is the most important operation in human life. Why?
As an operation, philosophy and religion never did a good interpretation for theification in a very powerful way. That could convince people that defecation is not an animal operation. No? Never.
It had never been powerful and spread everywhere. People have never been convinced that defecating means that you are doing something relating you to the earth, relating you to God, purification, all these ideas never worked. Never worked. Who do you find in the Bible that big parts about defecation?
No. Did Yahua, Jesus, Abraham, Moses, no one talks about defecation. It's the silent operation. No one could talk about it, no one could explain it, no one could give meaning to defecation.
And that means... I remember these kind of radical feelings that I had when I'm defecating. I feel like... I feel like I'm losing meaning.
I'm losing my own culture. I'm losing all that I've learned from my... the first day. I'm losing my language.
You know what I'm talking about? And that's why a lot of people... But this makes it an animal operation, no? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. An animal operation. But the importance of meaningless operation in our life. It makes us understand that meaning is superficial, but necessary and important.
But what real about us is the meaningless. But we should not accept it. We should struggle with it. We should choose the meaning.
But we understand in our deep heart and mind that everything is meaningless. I tell you something. When I am on the toilet seat. Yes, the toilet seat.
And defecating. I have a book sometimes. Sometimes. My father will be...
Your father will do this. In books or something? No, I did. I'm an avid toilet reader.
This is what my ritual is. I wake up. I take an espresso, a small cup of coffee, and two cigarettes into the bathroom, and I shit and read for 40 minutes. Yes, what I'm talking about.
This kind of contradiction. Why are you right? To feel human. To feel it because you struggle against this kind of meaningless feeling.
We grow up with this kind of... I remember when I don't find a newspaper everywhere, and I'm coming too crazy. I take a signal to read what's on it. Like the shampoo bottle.
A signal to space, any shampoo bottle, just reading the instructions, just to feel I'm struggling, against my meaningless feelings. But my advice? Just feel it. But do you think if we didn't shit in the toilet, if we've shut in nature, wouldn't that give the ritual more meaning?
Because then it would connect you to the earth. You're creating new dirt from which flowers can grow. Yeah, but before answering this question, I'm getting back to you, but I'm telling you, you should understand what I'm saying about that. You should never read the books again.
Just feel the shit coming out of you. Feel how what's... origin, what's original in you is meaningless operation. You are an animal.
It's not just an animal. Even the whole animal. It's in its cat? No.
No. The whole animal even is not the right word. We are meaningless. We are biology.
We are not aware enough. All this awareness and culture is just all new. This is our struggle against meaningless. But you should feel...
just feel for... it doesn't take me 40 minutes, 10 minutes. Just feel this shit coming out of your asshole. It's okay to live in a meaningless world for 10 minutes.
And the good about it, it's just we don't think about the palace of planets or aliens. You think about your asshole, yourself. It's me. I'm meaningless biological entity.
Yes. There is a beautiful passage in a book by Kurt Vonnegut, Breakfast of Champions, where he tells the story of two bacteria. And the bacteria, they are in paradise. Because everywhere around them is sugar, and this is what they eat.
So they are in this universe of sugar, and they eat, and they discuss the meaning of their lives. Why are we in this paradise of abundance where we can eat as much as we want, so they just eat and shit and talk about the meaning of life. And they eat more and more, and the shit just climbs up until they drown in their own shit. And they never finish their discussion.
They never find out what the meaning of their eating and shit was all about. But for the monk, it was obvious, because what they did was champagne. Wow. That's one of the most famous things about pigs in Egypt.
When you ask a Muslim, why don't you say because pigs age their shit? Okay, but that's what's good about it. I think that's the most interesting, I hope, maybe, at one moment as a prophet, I have a pig as my own totem, my own sign. And you know what I like about pigs very much, that Jesus at a moment, I don't know if you know this story, there was a fool in the streets, and he said, please, I want you to kill.
And then the devils inside him are talking, hey, we don't want to go out from him, and this kind of thing. And then Jesus said, this is a guy, and he has a lot of devils inside him. I should do some exorcism games now. And then what?
The devil inside, I said, oh, please. You are now destroying me and putting me in hell? No, put me in the pig. So all the devils came out of the guy, and they went into the pigs, and the pigs are shouting, ah!
And they threw inside into the lake. That means that Jesus, that all Christians, since he is a creator of universe, don't care about pigs, about pigs. I could repeat this. That Jesus who creates the universe, the Son of God, who is decent, with every creature has never been decent and good with pigs.
So this is why you want to have the pigs. Because I care about pigs. I am the prophet who cares about pigs. When I was a child, this kind of part of the New Testament was almost confusing me.
You are always good with every creature, white pigs. You don't care that pigs are suiciding? What's the meaning of that? That makes me thinking, who creates pigs?
Maybe it's not God. Maybe it's not Jesus who creates pigs. That's why he hates pigs. He don't care about pigs.
He has a pity for the devil to not make him in hell, but he don't care about pigs. Look, can you compare that? Yes. Like he don't care about devils, but he...
But God created the devil. Yeah, he created the devil. But for sure, because he's one of his creatures. He care about the devil, but he don't care about pigs.
That's very important to understand. For me, I have this question for my child, who creates the big? So you think there are aliens? I think there is a part of the Quran that's a blessing of God, who is the best creator, which means that there is other theaters.
Yes, but you know the Ten Commandments, right? Yes. The Ten Commandments is I am your God, I, and no one else. That is not really a commandment.
That's more of a statement. Yes. And the second commandment is thou shalt not have any other gods beside me. So he also admits that there are other gods.
Yes. It means there is other gods. Yes. And that's what he says also when the Jews are led by God, and Moses out of Egypt.
He says, no, don't worry about the Egyptian gods. I will fuck them up for you. So there is gods. Apparently there is.
But this is not something that is generally talked about. But you and I know that there are other gods. Every idea is a potential God. Exactly.
And pigs have never been put as a totem. And I think putting pigs as a totem in this kind of, I don't know how to say it. This is actually not exactly true. But because you remember in the cafe earlier today, I told you about the Vikings and the North mythology.
Yeah. And that the Vikings believe that when they die in battle they come to Valhalla where they get to party with Oldham for eternity. And there is a pig at this feast. That pig called Sarimner is a totem.
Because that's a magical pig. You can eat it every night and the next day it will have meat on its skeleton again and you can eat it again and again and again. And this is actually kind of a totem. So now you could offer me the Vikings totem as a solution.
You could fight with me because it's now the only culture it seems that brought a pig as a totem. I think it might be. Yeah. I haven't seen it anywhere else.
Yeah. So from there we could collaborate together on this point. Yes. You helped me to have my pep that I need a totem.
And I think because look what we are talking about. Because this shit coming from Assholes. This justification that is you can say getting people to understand the meaningless core of life. And at the same time, I don't know if you know that, but all the time in Egypt they are using pigs in recycling.
Not recycling, but eating all the garbage. Okay. So it's a good totem. It's a good totem because pigs eat the non-recyclic garbage.
Yeah. Which is a big mission. And I think the Western philosophy, all the Western modernity and post-modern philosophy are even continent. All this kind of culture is the non-recyclic garbage that needs to be eaten.
And shut out. Yes. This is what I do when I finish shitting in the morning. I look into the toilet bowl before I wipe my ass at what I've made.
So you look at your shirt? Yes. But this is to, I think any, again, I don't mean animal in the usual used sense. Animal, I mean any biological entity.
It relates to its shirt when it's done. Yes. We could use dogs and cats as examples. They look at it.
They relate to it. Yeah. They never feel shame of being animal, of being a meaningless entity. So when we look at our shit, because it's part of us getting out.
This shit is us. It's our meaningless self getting out. Yeah. And when I look back at my career, I think most of it is shit.
So before we go on, I want to ask you just because you're the most famous person no one has ever heard of in Egypt. Me? Yes. Thank you.
If you were to introduce yourself, you are a political satirist among other things, right? Yeah. And you have made, during the revolution a few years ago, you made some clips? Yeah, but no one knows about that.
Yes, but will you tell me or tell us? When I remember when there was an Islamic constitution three years ago. The Islamic constitution, it was too harsh, which was extremely fundamentalist. When I was on one of, like, researching, on one of the Islamist websites, I found a very long boring video for a Salafist leader, talking about what was happening behind the scene in the constitutional committee.
It sucks. It explains a lot of things about the dirty videos I've been in. I said, what the fuck? I should send this to media.
I tried to send it to media people everywhere. Who could read? Who could read? And watch two and a half hour of a very boring Salafist man talking.
What did I do? What I did? I just cut it down to 14 minutes, maybe. And I wrote on it the most dangerous 14 minutes about the Islamic constitution.
I did some editing, writing things on the screen to make it interesting and what could be the consequence of it in every news, everywhere. All over the internet, all over the news in Egypt. All over, even there was a meeting between a lot of the Salafist because of this. So this was to hand people, the very funny thing that people are saying, ah, who did this video?
It seems like, for sure, it's some secret, in terms of foreign security, some conspiracy. Yes, but at the end. I mean, it has a very powerful effect on the political situation. And you could never know.
You could never know the kind of change that you could do. Even when you do the least ever. But just do it intuitively. But it's not the least effort.
You did the research. You had to listen to two and a half hours of boring Salafist speech, right? And then you had to listen to it again and again and again to find the raisins and the cake. Yes.
And then you had to cut it down. And then you released it online. And the shit hit the fan. And this was at the time where a lot of shit hit the fan here, right?
It's very, I can say, it's very between. You leave or to do something in an anonymous way. It's very between. To change.
I think it's a kind of pleasure. It's a kind of joy to do the change of anything you want to change. Big or small. But in an anonymous way.
But at the moment, when you do it in an anonymous way, it's more powerful because no one knows who did it, no one cares who did it. It's just the idea itself. You die as a person for the idea to live. And this is for what?
If you think about creating and being famous and taking maybe some money or whatever you want, maybe you need to be recorded as a political activist or change the world. But at the moment, you do it anonymously. And you will feel what I'm talking about. Let's try it once.
You will never stop it. So you're still being an anonymous political satirist online then? Why not? No, I see no reason why not.
There will always be a need. And in this country, when the revolution started here, did you believe in it? No, no. I was part of it.
But if you believe in something to the end, you will never continue. Because you will be too disappointed. Sure. And this is what happened to the revolution here.
Yes. Because I was talking to one of an expat in Cairo a few days ago. He had been here for 35 years, I think. And he told me that he and his wife, they believed in it.
They marched in the beginning when it was peaceful. I was arrested in 25 January, but that doesn't mean I believe in it. What did they do to you? They took me from the streets.
As you see in any kind of these kind of videos, they hit me everywhere from my heart to my heart. They took me first to police station. They put on my eyes. That's how you say it.
Blindfold. They blindfolded me and they took me to interrogation. They accused me by killing a police officer and burning to police cambions, stealing money from a few flats. Okay, for burglary.
I can steal his money and I can steal receiver. Like a satellite dish. A satellite dish receiver. I stole it.
Like a very good character, very funny. I was there for a few days in jail. They cut off my heart. They gave me the drizzling clothes that I was at.
They just took us free. But that doesn't mean I have a video for me talking when I went out. That it was very funny to be protesting. I don't understand if they really know why they are doing this.
No, that's my impression. The first night I came to Egypt in Cairo, our mutual friend took me to a party where there were a lot of Egyptians young, like ourselves. They were secular, liberal, well educated at American and English universities. They were more dangerous than Islamists.
One of the girls there, she told me that she thought Islamists had hijacked the revolution at Terrier Square. That it was a liberal and secular revolution in the beginning. I thought about this. I didn't argue with her because I'm not from here.
But I never believed this when I read the news in Sweden where I'm from. I met this expat a few days later out of Boring Cairo. He's been here 35 years. Him and his wife went in the demonstrations in the beginning when it was peaceful.
I told him what she had told me. That was a liberal secular revolution. He said, no, I don't think so. I think the West noticed the liberals and the secularists because they knew how to handle Twitter and Facebook.
They became communications hub. But in reality it has to do with poverty and frustration. One thing changed. Most of the people in the revolution were young and angry men.
It usually is in revolutions. Young and angry men. When the bullets started flying it wasn't the liberals and secularists who stood up. He said to me that it was poor, uneducated, religious, Islamist men who took the bullets.
Because they had the least to lose. This is what he told me. Do you have a minority in this country? Sure.
Not as a man but as a cop. As a cop? As a thinker? Yeah.
As a non-as-ex, I have very powerful critic for all of this. It's also the word atheist. It's not a good word to use. Why is that?
Why is atheist not a good word to use? Yeah, because of all the four horses of atheism. I think they are tired. They think that should be respected.
Shapob. You should have guns, dana, teachkins, how is shapob? Okay. But this is not atheism.
So what is atheism? Because you are a prophet of atheism, right? I think. And I think mythology is a right way of thinking about it.
It's not religion. No, it's not. It's storytelling. Narrative.
It is structure and form but not content. Yeah, I don't think they are just crazy about religion. The that all Muslim immigrants live in Europe freely to say what they want to say. Okay, but what do they pay for you for this?
I don't think for sure not money because that's not a... It's a cultural deal. You have your free life as Muslims, where you can do whatever you want, leave as radicals, for sure, without humiliating other rights, and you have the full citizenship, but you give me the right to deconstruct Islam. You have the right, you have the right to do what I want when I'm talking about all religious, all religious Islamic history and give the right to give secular Muslims the real voice in the word.
Is it Muslims to have the real voice? Even Muslims, real Muslims, but who are just having new ideas about Islam to have the real voice? All this. No, I think what you said verbatim was you have the right to be as religious as you want to be here in Europe, but in return you will give other Europeans the right to piss on the prophet.
Yes. I didn't want to be too radical. Well, we've been talking about feces all along. Yes.
Give me because there was a very famous Sanskrit... Episode, yes. Yes. One of the famous American stars, he wants to buy the Mohammed censorship.
He wants to be protected as Mohammed is protected. It's a very funny way to think of it. The over protection of Mohammed and Islam history, you could take apart of the cross in your house and put it under the microscope or put it in your house. No one will tell you what you're doing.
Yes. But it was a hard one fight. You have to admit that. It took Christians a very long time.
I mean, up until the 70s in Europe, it was still considered heresy to, for instance, deep acrucifix in piss and photograph it for art. Or life of Brian that I told you about, you hadn't heard about it. But it's basically a comedy by Monty Python where they ridiculed the life of Jesus, and it was censored in many European countries back in the 70s. So it took a while.
But if you look now into something 16, we could say, want to give something to the world. If they do this deal, it will be really saying the world a lot. Give the rights to the Negroes, give the rights to the Muslim to be radical, but give others the right to be also radical against Islam. It's a very easy deal.
Radicalism here, not merely violence. We are out of violence. We are saying to radical thinking. Yes.
Give the freedom. Give the rights. Give the old rights to Muslims to be radical in the way they cover the women with cement. They want what they want.
They want what they want. Because if it was they want to eat, they swing with all the full closes in their special beaches. Okay. But at the same time, we can do the caricatures that we want.
We can do the books that we want. We can do a media project that we want. It's okay also to do, to not believe in this. You have the right to believe in Islam and to be both led into radical Islam and the others have the right to be okay.
But for you as a cop, would it be okay for me to say to you that I would like to fist fuck Jesus with the Draenov? Right. That's okay. I don't have the energy to fist fuck like five people in one sitting in one of the most like I admired.
One of the most powerful memes in the introduction of the Yushan was a meme from a Facebook page called Fallutavans. This is a very funny page. He put a photo of Shigavara. Oh, Shigavara?
Yeah. Okay, yes. Shigavara. He put a photo of Shigavara lying and smiling in the last moment.
I thought of it. This is not a smile of an ordinary man. This is a smile of a man waiting to meet the virgins in heaven. In the heaven of...
I didn't know communists who died in battle got virgins in heaven. Yeah, but what he means here, Yushavara is not sacred. Revolution is not sacred. Martíos are not sacred.
Nothing is struggling itself. Our conversation is not sacred. We should accept that what we are saying now. Everything could piss.
Everyone could piss on it. It's okay. So even our ideas, what we really believe in it, it's okay to someone to piss and say this is just... So for sure, piss on one to piss on.
That's okay. I mean, what I think, having this protected culture, is really, really dangerous. Yes. And I think...
Because this means that people have the right not to have their ideas challenged. Yes. That is the opposite of being an intellectual. Yes.
It's anti-intellectual. This is the most powerful meme on us. That Islamic memes are the most powerful meme on us because they give birth to other memes, which protect their memes. This is very intelligent and that's very powerful culturally.
And they know how to spread ideological mechanism into memes that makes all Muslims accept this idea. That to make all Islamic memes non-criticized. This is part of this non-culture. And that's very powerful.
I see this is... I don't know. I think Muslim shiok's are genius. This is the most intelligent way to protect humans.
Forever. Forever if you live. Because no one could criticize it. I would criticize it.
I would criticize it. He will die. Look how it works. Yes.
It works already. Non-criticized memes. So can I ask you to grow a cupcake? Because you were raised a cupcake, right?
Yes. Conservatively a cupcake? Very conservative. So was it okay in your home to criticize the Coptic religion?
My father, except not. My father, I remember one of the most powerful moments in my father and for me. You're talking about university. I was in the university.
I was talking in my room. And he told me, if you are an atheist, I don't care. I just accept you. This was a deal.
You're an atheist? That's not a good one. My father told you basically, you may believe what you want, but you cannot be a missionary. Yes.
And he makes fun of me. And he said, or is his mouth has missionaries also? Well, he was right, wasn't he? I think he got me.
You know how to talk about the logic. So how old were you when you discovered that? Eighteen years old, yes. Eighteen.
That's fairly old. But maybe the religious context in this country, people here are quite religious. Right. It takes me a really a long time to get rid of mythology.
I think, as I told you, the fight between human minds and mythology is the real fight or struggle. We are an even capitalism, even communism, even all modern philosophy or contemporary philosophy are part of our next science. Yes. No, it's a Darwinism.
The Bible says, out of a man's rib, God created woman. Darwinism says, out of the one cell organism, evolution created a two cell organism. But who cares? No, it's the same form.
I mean, I'm curious about how I think Darwin... Do you understand? People can only understand it as this mythical structure. That's what I believe.
Yeah, I mean, and sometimes you are trying to get. But you know that Darwin, I told you, Darwin is not a politician. No. He is not a socialist.
And he knows nothing about social science. Even about cognitive science, nothing about anthropology. So that makes him, I think, missing a lot of things when he's talking about human slices. Yes, because we were talking about this earlier today.
And you said, there's a lack in Darwinism. There's a void. And it doesn't explain everything. It explains up to a certain point.
And I filled in that I think Darwinism was perfectly applicable to the human condition up until 1927 when we invented penicillin and basically took evolution into our own hands. Because then at this point, this is when humans could procreate and survive. And people who evolution wouldn't have permitted to survive could survive and beguette children and so on and so forth. And we see the huge exponential growth of humanity going from barely a billion people to less than a century, nine billion people.
My theory about Darwinism is that Darwin has missed a lot about social political science. And that makes him just could explain the period between awareness or biological emergence to the moment of self-awareness. When human has his self-awareness, it's okay, even before all these considering things. Just when a man has a mind, everything should be understood differently.
Because I have a mind, a mind has a strategy, has a plan. The evolution mind is blind, you don't have a plan. But human mind has a plan. And these are two forces against each other.
So this is a mind force. And the mind force is also now organized into economy, economical force, political force like the state. All these kinds of forces are controlling nature, culture, everything. So do you believe there's a future for Egypt?
I think Egypt has never been... Not there. No, that is true. It's one of the oldest nations in the world.
I think it will never be. But how do you view it now? Because there are forces in Egypt, like two big ideologies fighting for power. You have Islam, and you have the nationalist ideas of the secular military dictatorship.
I cannot say it's too ideology with the same title. It's not easy. Because military nationalism in Egypt is not Islamist. It is.
You can say moderate Islamist nationalist military. But it's too powerful. It has been constructed through decades, through master media, which newspapers and TV, was too powerful, master cinema. I don't know if you know this or not, but second man in history, after Hitler, who loses media, powerful, he's going to have a master.
So he's ranked number two. So he knew how to use... Yeah, but he had a great moustache. Yeah.
He had a great moustache. He knew how to talk to people. He moves very well while he's talking. He's saying good jokes.
He's great. So, but where do you see it going from here? I mean, it's between moderate Islam and Salafi. Because you could call the Brotherhood Salafi, right?
No? Also, I don't know. Salafi light? Diet Salafi?
Diet Salafi, maybe. Diet Salafi, maybe. I say no. I say no.
Because also we cannot say. I think it's like this. Moderate Islamist, meditity, nationalist, and Islamist. Pure Islamist.
We have all the branches. It's a reason I didn't mind. But I will keep it about how Islamist ideology works today. Because I like it.
I think that these are the big two forces for sure. And if we work through Darwinism. So, as an individual, I would say, these two forces there, I will see which one will win. I should accept it.
But do you have hope for your country? Because I was talking to the expat I told you about to live here for 35 years? Just a few years ago, he wanted to end his life here. But now he's leaving the country.
He's moving out. And a lot of expats are leaving, right? Most of people are leaving us. I mean, hope is not a good thing.
I know. And maybe it's the worst of things. Oh, you know the story of Pandora's Box, right? No.
You know Pandora? Pandora was a foolish child. And she got a box from the gods that contained all the evils in the world. I know, yes.
Epimetives, he was supposed to guard Pandora so she didn't open the box. But he was a lazy bum, so he fell asleep. And Pandora opened the box. And all the evils escaped.
And she, in time, was able to trap just one evil in the box. She closed the lid and one evil was trapped in the box. And that was hope. So hope is something we have to carry it inside us.
It is the only evil that we have to carry inside us, according to Greek mythology, which isn't science. But it is an eye story, isn't it? And it says something about hope, I think. I think it is why my stomach revolted when Obama ran for president the first time.
And he said, I promise you change, which is a silly thing to promise because change is a constant in the universe. Einstein already said it's the only constant change. So he promised something that was naturally occurring all over the world, all the time. And then the other thing was hope.
That's what he promised. And that is the way to disappointment. So you have very little hope for Egypt. No, I have very little hope.
But if you don't have hope, that doesn't mean that you will surrender. No, no, no, of course not. I think true courage is fighting when there is no hope. I think that's what I like because it's what Alberka News said, why you think it was not dedicated and he believed what is not, I mean, not is not, I think, believe in what he's doing.
He accepts this near-istic process. He just says, I will do it with happiness. Why you think he was taking the rock out to the top of the mountain in silence? Maybe he's too happy.
No, no. I'm too happy to miss this. To accept this near-istic process. And again, when we go to believe in that there is always this layer of near-ism when we go to theification, it's the most powerful near-istic process ever.
You can say if it reveals near-ism to all this rationality. Anyway properties also are familiar with what Alberka said. It really has to be understood by the government at the time no one's providing a Palestinian, arrests matter. And the provisions are very limiting.
We're going to take it to the city of Lebanon, but this entire country can afford right in your cities or grew upvern coding. I don't know where I'm going, but I'm not going to be able to understand this. I don't know, but I didn't know how to speak very much. I don't know.
I don't know what to speak I don't know. So we are all part of that. I have a very great story about the first one, but I think it's a very good story, right? I think it's a very great story.
The first one is the first one, which is the first one. The second one is the second one. This is the second one, the second one. It's a very nice story.
So, I think it's a very good story. I think we have a lot of history and we have a lot of energy. I see my God's preaching rather than thinking German. Have you watched this from me?
Do you see it from then on that side? Yes, I can actually see it from now on this side. What do you mean by that? I don't know.
I don't know, so I'm down, but maybe I'll see you in a few minutes. I don't know. I'm here to get another one. I can also call the practice center, right?
I will call the study center in there on the Dance. I don't know what to suggest so that I'm in here. So I'm going to make some mistakes, or take a look at the new version of the new version of the new version of the new version and I'll see you in a minute.