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This is Josephine from Bobo Ta. How are you doing? They can't. I'm actually I'm podcasting in secret away from my family.
They don't know that I'm doing this because I'm supposed to be in bed because I'm really down with the flu. I love how you started by whispering and said, and she has to say no about this. Yeah. So that's true.
And talking about my weekend even more so about your week, we thought the ideal topic of this episode would be the power of kind of laughing at your own epic lows. And you're not perfect life. Yeah. Basically.
Yeah, I was reflecting. I was thinking about in our intros and how when we speak to each other, we're always like, oh, no, this week has been really good. It's been really intense. And normally because when we speak to each other, we get in a really happy mood and feel quite peped about life, right?
And we are pretty peped about life in general. I'm going to say that's it. Yeah. That is true, but there are also lows that you may be sometimes forget to share about because you get a little bit enthusiastic.
But this week, it was hard to forget about them. This week, the lows. All right. I'm getting sweaty.
It's hearing all about this. So tell me what about your lows. Well, first of all, our three-year-old angel, our A baby, as Rafael was called in our family, right? Yeah.
It's first year. Compared to the first and a half, almost two years, I would say, you know, this little Buddha baby that you put on a blanket and go to yoga class and he just sits there and like that, that, that. Yeah. He's turning into a complete monster.
I found myself on Thursday, Googling. How do you survive life with a three-year-old? And when does Google tell you? It says that it won't be worse at four.
I don't know if that helps. Nobody would get much better at four. Yeah. And now they basically say that this is peaking.
Yeah. So that was really good to hear. And it's also very different from kind of, I think, what we were brought up with, which is kind of like, no, you're going to set the line. And I mean, there's a few times where I'll be like, Rafael, now it's a nug.
And it's like, it's just laughing in my face. You know, like, this kind of, you know, now I'm really putting my foot down here. It's just like me, whatever. Well, that makes me think of one of my first moments of genuine embarrassment ever is when Patrick is probably, yeah, toddler.
He must have been two and a half or something. And we're in this department store, Mom and me and him. And he's just throwing a fit. And he's on the floor, like forming this little circle around him.
And I'm like, me and Mom are like, we can't get him up because he's like this slimy little, I mean, it wasn't slimy obviously, but he was just like sneaking out. You couldn't get ahold of him. So we couldn't get him up. And he was just like, there on the floor.
So, you know, I think it's been going on for generations. Yeah, no, but so basically it's basically been a struggle from coming home. Like he is happy for about a minute when he sees me runs out and, you know, like in a movie kisses me like, my mom is home. And then it just starts, you know, and he's been lovely with the nanny all day and he's been lovely at daycare or that.
No, then it just starts. So it's like everything and anything is wrong. And then it gets like a moment of quiet. Oh God, he's quiet now because he walked away angrily, you know, because he didn't want to because he put some sauce on the side of the plate or something like that.
And then the next step you go up the stairs. Okay, written with red pen all over the walls. That's pretty bad. Great.
Awesome. Fantastic. You come up, you start like the tooth brushing scenario. I've been listening to Yoga Girl and saying how everything is yoga.
So I'm standing there like trying to breathe in and breathe out as I felt like holding his mouth together. And then after about like five minutes, I'm like pressing the toothbrush into his mouth. And of course, he's screaming as if I'm like violating, you know, his basic rights as a human being. Great.
Awesome. Start reading the book lying down with him. No, it just walks away and starts sleeping in a big bed now. And it's like, okay, so how much do you?
Yeah, how much do you force them to lie in the bed? And then of course, in the end, just kind of give up going to my bed and he kind of comes after and we're all in our bed. And to help this week, it's an story in itself, but we had like bar little bar chairs with our open kitchen story. So this week, he fell off the chair, hit his tooth.
So we thought the tooth was gotten, but apparently it's just pressed up into his mouth. So you can't see it. And so that was of course, a horror story in itself. And we've been at the doctors and taking x-rays and all of that.
But the consequence of this is that he has to stop with this pacifier. And he's very addicted. Right. This very moment when he's in his terrible freeze and you are pregnant week 33.
This is the moment where this is the moment we're stopped. So he's lying in our bed. And I think we're peaking in this, like, because both me and Steve are just so exhausted, right? And we're sleeping in different bedrooms and, you know, walking in between and like, ref is waking up six times a night.
So we're peaking when we're in the middle of the night somewhere, all in our bed. And Steve, we've learned that one thing that works is sometimes if we pretend to be cats. So we're lying there, meowing. I remember this just screaming.
Should we really put this episode out? I mean, I think this I actually thought afterwards, this is good content. No, so really lying there as cats, meowing. See, that's a good thing when you can look at yourself from the outside.
Hey, this is going to make a really, really good story. Oh, and yeah, no, and of course, oh, I haven't said the best. He's of course not in his pajamas or anything. He's fully dressed in his Grey Pans and Green T-shirts, which are the only things he wants to wear and shoes in our bed.
No, it doesn't have far. We're just like, we're just completely given up, you know. Yeah. So then next morning anyways, we'll be cats.
We've done everything we can. He wakes up. He goes up. You know, there's another moment of relative peace.
He then taken the red pen and drawn all over his Grey Pans and Green shirt. How come he has access to this red pen? Maybe that's really... Well, he had like a little drawing table where he draws things and still after this.
Yeah, no. So we've been too tired. So yeah, so then he draws all over this and then basically we decide to take the fight. So it's like a fight where we hold him down, put on other clothes and then just wait because he has a little bus that takes him to his daycare, Bumblebee.
He arrives at 7.55. We're like out there with him at 7.50 within screaming, just standing there waiting for the bus to come. And then the bus comes, he stops screaming and we just hand him over. Oh, and we're like, oh God, let's go in and have a shower.
That's been our day, every day, this week. Ground on day. Oh God, it's been awful. Oh, poor you.
I was looking forward to have a week of really doing lots of admin work for my organization, my company that I own and do all of that. Tied you things that you don't really want to do, but because I've had so much workshops and I will be having lots of workshops in the coming weeks as well, which I love, but it's also nice to have those breaks. But then they've got super intensive with the book that I'm writing with my two American colleagues. You never really know when it's going to be a big period or not.
So it was actually quite lucky that this became... It's a little bit surprising that you're always very ready. And then it's like, okay, the US have woken up. And then it's like overwhelmed.
So now it was one of those weeks and it was super hectic and my colleagues, they were also suffering from the flu. And I was like, we were laughing, like this virtual flu, but you know, it's really good that we're in different countries. And then, you know, by Thursday, I'm like... The flu is really feeling that great.
So I was just like, okay, but then I have my yoga classes. So I thought, you know, Thursday afternoon, it's too late to try to find someone to come in and run your class. So I'm like, and this is my typical, you know, when I don't feel great, you know, I really try to put myself... You know, I went to the shower and really did my hair and makeup and everything.
Like, so at least I felt or looked a little bit fresher. Then I went to the class and I, as you know, I prepare a theme for every class, like strength or balance. And this theme was flexibility. So I put up an Instagram this week because normally you put it up on our Instagram account, Ruth and Shine.
And then you put it up. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I will put, I can put up the theme when I get out of the flu a little bit. Epic fail!
It was week. Another thing you failed with this week. Yeah, so anyway, so, but I guess it was a little bit lucky because that's not specifically hard. And because of course, as a yoga instructor, you do certain movements with the class and others you're used to instructing because you can't do them all because then you can't help your participants.
So you're walking around and everything. But I just felt at one point when we're doing forward falls, you know, and going through like, and I came up and I came up a little bit ahead of all the students so that I'm up when they come up. And you know, the entire room is spinning. So I'm like, okay, I have about one and a half second to get myself in focus that I don't faint.
You know, that would be such a sight they would come up and I would like them. So that was a bit of a talk moment. But I managed to fake it. They didn't notice.
And then I went home and I had 39 degrees of fever when I took my... And then I started to send, I thought that was pretty good. You started to send like selfies of your tired face to the family group. Because that's the thing actually.
You really went in this real family. I really dug into caring when you were sick. So I felt like, okay, I didn't get all the love that I wanted from them. If I send it out to the big family, I'll get some more like love and art.
Sorry, I'm not sure I gave it up. No, Patrick's sense like, get well. So I didn't really get the response from that family either. But really, so I think the theme we came up with and I think it's pretty good.
So basically we've had not great weeks. I mean, nothing serious. But when you have those moments and they're not good and not great and you have sort of, it's so good if you're able to kind of just stand aside from yourself a little bit and laugh at yourself. Like I'm thinking already you in bed in the middle of the night in a chaos thinking this will actually be a good story for the podcast.
And I think that's like a really good skill to have when things are, you know, when life giving you lemons. You can make lemonade. Yeah, there's a number of times where I've been like, okay, what, and I read this somewhere else and of course it's basic, but just trying to still think about the things that you are grateful for. Yeah, even when things are shitty because they're always things that you are grateful for.
Yeah, but even though this week I've been so tired that I almost started to like cry when I'm, you have to ask me, where about my pregnancy, by the way? Yeah, I have loads of things in terms of my loves to share about my pregnancy. Okay, let's pretend that you asked me about my pregnancy and I could tell you a little bit. Yeah, after you told me, oh, I'm so sorry that you're ill.
No, I am very sorry about you, Bey Hill. So just tell me some more about your loves and your pregnancy. Yes, I've reached week 33 and apparently I don't remember this so much from the last one, but this is still like you can't breathe a week. I remember having a week like that.
There's like, there's just no space, right? And I still eat the same quantities or potentially a little bit more, which is just basically I die after a meal. Oh, it's absolutely awful because there's basically there's no place to the extent that I start to get headaches. I'm wondering like if the food is like, I don't know, there's no space whatsoever.
But that it's pressing up towards your head or whatever. Yeah, because I feel nauseous as well. It's really, really awful. And then this, this Monday we had an ultrasound and in many ways that was lovely because everything was nice and so on.
But one of the things that I've been a little bit worried about is that the baby's going to be quite big because Rafael was quite big. We like to apparently get quite big babies in our family. No, of course his head is in the 90th percentile, the baby's head. That's really big.
So, so this 10% of babies that have a bigger head than my baby to like, for rates, that's going to be awesome for this birthgiving process that I'm going to go through. So are you going to do and you know, because last time you are used to 100% certain about the natural birth? I mean, otherwise I probably should have stayed in Columbia if I really wanted to have a cesarean because that's what they really get out here. I guess my guess would be that they do pretty good cesarean since Sweden too, right?
Did I say that I share in the podcast about this? No. Whereby the first doctor I had here, she looked at my cesarean scar, which is like very low, right? Like it's a nice little low scar.
Yeah. She's like, oh, that's pretty high up in Columbia. We do it under the bikini line. I'm like, I wouldn't have a bikini under this line.
Mine is like in America. Exactly. She thought that my scar was like super high up showing off, you know, that would be shown off in my bikini, but I would need to kind of have some mini mini tanga thing here for you. Which you do, especially after your pregnancy.
Yeah, exactly. You know, so yeah, she thought it was very high. But no, yeah, so 90th percentile and no, I'm not sure. I'm calling home to mom and said, yeah, no, they made my first book to, you know, that I would have a birth plan and go through with the doctor, given what happened last time and given the 90th percentile head size and so on.
And then it's also so funny. And then his mom is like, oh, but then you really need to contact the doctor about this. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm just going to rock out. You know, this is not such a big thing for me.
But I'm still talking about what we did last time, you know, it's still, or a few times ago, it's still as if I'm the 20 year old party girl that's going to rock up at hospital and give birth. But that will have a birth plan and that is seriously looking into her birth. But honestly, there was something I wanted to share, which is also rather humiliating in terms of this, how pregnancy has done a little bit different here. So they do a lot of tests and, and apparently I have low blood counts, which can happen during pregnancy, but it's also like the signs of preeclampsia.
You know what that is, problem this got, the evening. No, what is that? Hell, that's good thing in Swedish. So anyway, so I need to take these blood tests again.
And then I stand there in the counter of this, where they take the test in the lab and she pulls out like a gasoline dunk. What is called English? Like a big, like where you put gasoline in like a two liter, five liter thing. So Spencer, yeah.
Oh, yeah. So she pulls that up for me. It's brown and it's like people standing around, of course. And she's like, yeah, so here you can have to pee in this one, all of your pee for 24 hours.
So she wants me to carry this thing around for 24 hours to work. And in order to test the protein levels in my blood. Yeah. And I then speak to my lovely Spanish teacher who is my Spanish teacher slash therapist, just like an online Spanish teacher.
She's listening to this, I have issues, yeah. And no, we're talking about this. She's telling me that it's actually a normal thing in Latin America. Because in Sweden, this does not happen.
No one, I've never heard of anyone who's doing a 24 hour urine test where they need to collect all of the urine for 24 hours. But it's like, they take it very seriously. So I don't know if I'm going to do this or not. My doctor really wants me to do it.
I guess you shouldn't do it today. I realized today, but now I already had my first pee. I have to be honest, like when you're pregnant, like, I mean, how many times this night have I been up at the bathroom? Like probably seven?
Yeah. Trying to sit there with this gasoline. And I'm kind of thinking. Oh, good.
So how are you going to laugh about that? Well, I guess by sharing it now with all of you, hoping that you laugh about it, then, you know, then that's it. Yeah. So right now, I guess we're going through some of the lows and I was thinking, like, do we have any or do you want any more questions about your pregnancy?
Yeah. No, no, it's okay. I also sent a picture of the baby to the family group. It just like you did, like your sick group.
And it's really hard. Like mostly that family group. My sick group. Your sick picture.
And mostly it's really nice with these groups because you get a little love back, but no one really, I had to, like, request more love before the ultrasound picture of the baby. But I have to agree. It actually looks kind of scary. The ultrasound picture.
They have these really developed like 3D techniques here, right? So your little baby soon to come out. Yeah. No, so that's all about me.
So yeah, we've said that a little bit of like epic fails over time, not just what we've collected this week. Yeah. When are like those moments where you really need to have the ability to laugh at yourself when things go wrong? You know, they're maybe not funny in the moment or usually they're not funny in the moment.
But somehow you can tell yourself like one day in the future, I will be thinking that this is going to be funny. Or, I mean, this is where I need you, right? Or like I was telling Wossa the meow store here, my good friend Wossa. It's like where you just need to step away from yourself and speak to a friend about how ridiculous the situation was to be just experienced.
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I only have this week. But you, what do you want to share? When did you have to pull yourself together? Well, actually, maybe before we go into that, I was thinking about something that you said of the fact of being able to sort of, like you spoke with Ossa and laugh at yourself and give it a little bit of a distance.
And thinking about this episode, it made me think of a wonderful episode from the Harry Potter books. So, I don't, did you read the Harry Potter books when you were, I have to say that almost with like British accent. Harry Potter. When I was young, you mean, or?
Did you read all of them? No. So, now I'm waiting for a raft to, I don't know how old does it need to be? Yeah, I think the first book we started reading when Philippa was six, so that you can do, but then we needed to take a little bit of a break.
So, wait for another three years. Yeah. At the time where his tooth has grown back out again, he wanted to smash it into his. Well, maybe wait for a little one to be six as well, and then you can read it for both of them because it's such a lovely thing to do together.
We read all the books that have been super nice, but anyway, there's, and they are truly brilliant. I mean, what a talent she has for putting it together, and it's just not a book for children. It's so many good stuff in there. And one thing that I really, you know, now that we were talking about this episode came to think of was that there's one scene in there where they're like, so they have magic classes and they learn how to deal with different things.
And then there's this one evil thing that's called boggers, and those boggers, they are like things that you are afraid of, you're worse fear. And they so they turn into that. So, they were all there, and there was someone who was so afraid of his grandmother, and you know, this bugger turned into his grandmother, and he got completely paralyzed. And all the scary things that come up like, but really true fear.
But then the way they form the magic spell to get rid of them or to kind of kill them was to make them look ridiculous. So you had to be able to laugh at your biggest fear. So like there was this angry grandmother and like just a little bit mean, and you know, so this boy was really like, and then trying to put her up, that she looked really funny with this ridiculous hat on, and you say ridiculous, and then you laugh at it, and then the fear goes away. I thought that so cleverly brilliant.
Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. So how, okay, so you're in an epic fail situation, you're like, okay, this head is 90% larger than all the other heads. And then you make it just look really, no, okay, maybe that's a bad example. So it's like, yeah, you can laugh at it and give yourself a little bit of a distance and say, okay, so this is going to be a great story for his student exam graduation when we're going to tell how we all did.
Yeah, yeah, I'll frame to fall asleep in the middle of the night. So I can't get in the middle of that. It's not even falling asleep. Yeah, so, you know, and I thought that was a really good one that I was thinking about.
And then another theory, because it's not always easy. And while you had a difficulty coming up with fails, and I could think of so many weird and funny things that strange things had happened to me, and one crazy thing, I was in Dubai, and one was always dressed very nicely, and I sued and everything. And I had this super nice smashing suit that I bought at Sara, and it was like a white striped suit trousers and ducats, and it looked so nice. But the first year I gained quite a lot of weight.
I mean, we've discussed this, it was super hectic, everything, and I was sitting for a meeting or doing so. I think, no, I was with other people. And I get up from the sofa because we're looking. Yes, yes, this is exactly.
And it rips out from the butt, you know, in the butt. But I think I managed to discuss this, and no one noticed a card from me. So you think they were polite? Yeah, I think.
Yeah, I want to stay with that mental picture. So I was like, no. So I'm like, what am I going to do? And it's this lobby of the six star hotel.
It's beautiful. It's not like you can't. So I slowly remove my jacket and tie it around. But hips and try to look like it's the most normal thing to have your jacket around your hips.
And then like, no. Oh, no. But this actually, this reminds me though of what is going to come up for me again, which is the whole period after you get your child. You think that the pregnancy is one thing, but you're even more hormonal just after the baby has arrived, right?
And breastfeeding can be quite a challenge, right? It's really, from any, or at least it was really painful in the beginning. And then you walk around with these like huge breasts, right? Yeah.
And they can spray milk at any time. Yeah. I do remember that happening in Myanmar. And you just like in panic, kind of any defined bathroom and like, I need to stop this madness, which is happening.
If you don't have a baby or a pump around, and yeah, I mean, I'm not going to get too many. But it's quite surrealistic. And you stand there and you're like, oh, you have officially become a cow. Yeah.
I heard the story actually about this one couple. And she was sitting breastfeeding and I think they had twins even. And she was breastfeeding and the husband looked at her and he goes, no. I don't think she was able to laugh for a long time.
No, but I think my moral of that story was though, and I think it's really important at that time. So I'm reminding myself now, I was like, listen to this one, baby number two has arrived. And that's this two shall pass. Yeah.
That it's all, you know, it is relatively short sequences, trying to tell myself that now as well with this three year old. Yeah. And that this two shall pass. So it's a little bit about, okay, it's kind of awful right now.
Maybe you're like ugly crying over something, but it will get better. Yeah. And it won't feel like that forever. And especially now when you're pregnant, it can be quite intense emotions as my family might have experienced.
Yeah. And I think about 10 minutes later, there I am with my chocolate crusts feeling quite happy. Yeah. See, they're all different solutions to this.
But I guess what we want to say in this fairly short episode, coming out from a crazy week, I'm in with my flu. I hope you didn't mind my, my whiskey flu voice and you with your hectic week. We just want to send us all a little bit of love. So thank you everyone for listening.
And when you have those strange weird crazy things happening to yourself, take a moment and put yourself apart from it and give yourself, you know, a friend they laugh, I would say. A friendly laugh and a big hug and think about how can you retell this in the best possible way to potentially make it funny in the future. Maybe with a silly voice. Yeah.
Maybe with a silly voice. That's actually another tips that I've heard. Can I talk about it? I guess it's silly when this and this happen and then you can start laughing about it.
Yeah, I'm not sure that's going to work. Not even in the yoga session. Okay, Lee. Forward fall.
No, but if you afterwards feel bad about how it happened, you can talk about it in a silly voice and think about it. That's true. But follow us on Ruth and Shine on Instagram. And then we also have some of the amazing news, which is of course that I'm coming home, which is amazing.
Yes. I'm coming home to Stockholm and we'll be home for the International Women's Day of 8th of March. And we are then having a live pod at the Cairion Sign Hotel. Yeah.
So anyone who's in town, I mean, we can talk about it more in the next episode as well and give you all the details, but we will have an event together with them. So whoever is in Stockholm on that day, I'm more than welcome to join. So we'll post on Instagram, we'll post on our website, but there will be an opportunity to buy some tickets at the Cairion Sign Hotel. And then you can come and mingle.
And really, it's about meeting all of these awesome cool women. And then we will be doing live pod recording. So we really hope to see you there. Yeah, that theme is going to be all about positive feminists.
So a little bit of female power and the positivity that makes it all happen. Absolutely. So thank you so much, everyone, for listening. Thank you guys and see you soon.
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