23. What If Refuge Was a Verb? (with Lisa Cuss)

What if refuge was something you practiced?In this conversation, John Ortberg talks with therapist and trauma specialist Lisa Cuss about anxiety, church hurt, attachment theory, the nervous system, and Psalm 31.Lisa shares how reading the Psalms through the lens of the nervous system helped her understand David's prayers in a completely new way. His cries of fear, confusion, and desperation suddenly felt deeply human and surprisingly familiar.This episode explores:- Trauma and attachment theory- Church hurt and emotional healing- Psalm 31 and the image of refuge- Why God is called a fortress- Right-sizing reality through prayer- Making refuge an active spiritual practiceFeaturing reflections on:- David's prayers- The nervous system- Martin Luther- A Mighty Fortress Is Our God#Psalm31 #JohnOrtberg #LisaCuss #Prayer #Trauma #AttachmentTheory #SpiritualFormation #ChristianFaith #Anxiety #Psalms🙌 New episodes every weekday.📲 Subscribe, like, and share to help others grow spiritually. One day at a time.Become New is here to help you grow spiritually one day at a time.TEXT us at 51504EMAIL US at [email protected] OUR WEEKDAY EMAILS WITH EXTRA GOODIES at becomenew.com/subscribeGET A TEXT REMINDER FOR NEW VIDEOS: text NEW to 51504SEND US PRAYER REQUESTS: via text or email; we'll send you a written prayer from our teamDOWNLOAD FREE STUDY GUIDES: BecomeNew.com/study-guides😊 Join Our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1CnqywVp9s/🤳Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/become.new/Music Credits:Vikersund by RØRE - MB01V0UASAACPKEAlta by RØRE - MB01IWZVJASGKHF00:00 Introduction & Meet Lisa Cuss00:30 Church Hurt, Conflict & Anxiety01:15 Living Between Panic & Shutdown02:29 Reading the Psalms Through the Nervous System03:23 David's Emotional Honesty04:00 Naming the Amygdala Hijack04:47 Psalm 31: Refuge & Fortress05:56 What Refuge Really Means06:27 Right-Sizing Reality07:02 Refuge as a Spiritual Practice07:27 What If Refuge Became a Verb?08:25 Understanding Fortress08:42 Protection While Under Attack09:07 The Battles Inside Us09:56 Facing Hard Things With God10:27 Martin Luther & A Mighty Fortress11:20 Go Refuge